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10-05-2011, 04:20 PM
megladon8

I find the "Mario" games have had consistently great underwater sections.

I keep thinking about the ending to "Gears of War 3", and wondering if the developers in any way intended or were aware of their ending being so bloody assholish on the part of the humans.

I mean the game was fun as hell, but jee-zuss.
10-05-2011, 04:46 PM
Acapelli

meg want to expound on that?

i've never played a gow game so i don't know anything about the plot
10-05-2011, 04:55 PM
megladon8

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Originally Posted by Acapelli

meg want to expound on that?

i've never played a gow game so i don't know anything about the plot

Well, mega spoilers for all three games ahead, so read at your own risk...

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The basic story of the games is that humanity has colonized a planet called Sera because it has a "miracle fuel" called Immulsion, and after we've been there for a while it turns out that a society of creatures called the Locust live underground. They come to the surface and declare war on humans for invading their homeland.

Then it turns out that the Immulsion itself is also a kind of parasitic lifeform that begins infecting the Locust, and in the third game it begins to infect humans, too.

In the third game one of your team members dies to save you and the rest of your team. So the rest of the game becomes a mission to not only save humanity, but to avenge his death.

The game ends with humans pretty much committing double genocide, sending out a huge wave that kills everything on Sera (Locust and Immulsion based lifeforms) but leaves humans alive.

Sooo...we killed both of the indigenous races on a planet we invaded and had no right to in the first place? And we're the heroes?

Then we're treated to a great HOO-AHH! Humans rock! We sure got them back for killing Dom (the aforementioned teammate)!
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Just kind of made humans look like the biggest assholes in the universe, is all.
10-05-2011, 05:06 PM
Ezee E

I'd have to see it. But were the aliens a threat to humans otherwise?
10-05-2011, 05:09 PM
megladon8

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Originally Posted by Ezee E

I'd have to see it. But were the aliens a threat to humans otherwise?

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The aliens were the indigenous lifeforms of the planet. They wanted humans to leave.

We had no right to be there in the first place. We just found fuel there and decided to colonize the place and take it for our own. But it wasn't ours for the taking.

They were a threat to us in that they were defending their home planet.
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10-05-2011, 06:00 PM
Stay Puft

Actually, meg, you've got the major story details wrong...

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Humans didn't colonize Sera. They're also indigenous. Sera is essentially Earth in the Gears universe. The humans aren't spacefaring, they've never been to another planet.

The Locust are also humans, forced underground after years of exposure to immulsion mutated them. This is actually never explicitly clear, but there are plenty of hints throughout the series. The Locust did not want humans to leave the planet as such, nor were they defending their home. Queen Myrrah specifically wanted to commit genocide.
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Not that this a defense of the ending or the Gears story in general, because it's all incredibly stupid.
10-05-2011, 06:10 PM
megladon8

Really? That's weird. I always thought that humans had colonized Sera since, as you said, it's never explicitly said that it is or isn't Earth.

Considering all of the crazy alien shit you encounter, I thought it was a pretty safe assumption that this was not Earth, the humans' home planet.
10-05-2011, 07:15 PM
Lasse

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Originally Posted by megladon8

I find the "Mario" games have had consistently great underwater sections.

FUCK those levels! :frustrated:

;)
10-05-2011, 07:27 PM
megladon8

I tried to tackle "Gears 3" on insane and had my ass handed to me repeatedly in the first section :lol:

So I put that on hold and returned to "Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine".

Man, this game is a ton of fun. Occasionally frustrating - you get health by executing enemies, but while you are executing them you are open to attack. So you frequently die while in the process of getting health.

It also has some serious pacing issues. And to be honest, I'm not sure what the hell is going on, story-wise. Something about Orks and Titans. I dunno.

But the combat is a brutal, bloody, gorey, gruesome, disgusting mixture of "God of War" style combo-based melee fighting and third-person shooting.

You are constantly finding and unlocking new weapons and abilities. I just upgraded my Chain Sword (pretty much what it sounds like - a sword with a chainsaw blade) to a Power Axe (a huge battle axe with electrified blades).

I really like how bulky and heavy your suit feels. It feels like your character is putting effort into walking or running around, and when you stomp on an enemy's head or ground pound, the weight feels very real.

The game is also unabashedly cheesy. The Ultramarines that you command all speak with low-tone British accents and everything they talk about has "-orum" or "-itus" on the end. "We have to get to the Titan Manufactorum in the Rural Communitus before the Orks take over the Powertorium."

And the Orks all inexplicably speak with a weird mixture of Cockney and Australian accents.

It's awesome.
10-05-2011, 08:40 PM
number8

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Originally Posted by megladon8

Really? That's weird. I always thought that humans had colonized Sera since, as you said, it's never explicitly said that it is or isn't Earth.

From what I remember, at least in the first game, they're not exactly humans like us. The COG guys are Serans. From planet Sera. You know, kind of like Middle Earth, or Krypton. But Puft is right. The Serans were mining their own planet. They didn't go Avataring.
10-05-2011, 08:55 PM
Morris Schæffer

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Any Tomb Raider before the reboot?

Don't recall any abhorrent frustration, but they were the toughest part of the game I believe.
10-07-2011, 12:36 AM
megladon8

"Batman Arkham City: The Album" is pretty awful stuff.
10-07-2011, 01:34 AM
Acapelli

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Originally Posted by megladon8

"Batman Arkham City: The Album" is pretty awful stuff.

you weren't kidding

01. Panic! At The Disco – Mercenary
02. Coheed And Cambria – Deranged
03. The Duke Spirit – Creature
04. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club – Shadow On The Run
05. Blaqk Audio – Afterdark
06. Raveonettes – Oh, Stranger
07. TTT (Crosses) – The Years
08. The Damned Things – Trophy Widow
09. Daughtry – Drown In You
10. The Boxer Rebellion – Losing You
11. Serj Tankian – Total Paranoia

that looks awful
10-07-2011, 02:34 AM
Dukefrukem

So I maxed out my Fallout 3 dude... and i still have 3 DLCs to play... ummmm... I kinda dont want to play them now.
10-07-2011, 05:16 AM
monolith94

Yeah, without the goal of striving to reach the next level, a bit of the motivation to play is lost. Same thing happened to me.

The DLCs are hardly essential anyway.
10-07-2011, 05:22 AM
EyesWideOpen

Yep same thing happened to me also. I can't understand why you would have a level cap that can be reached so easily in a single player game. I could see if there was multiplayer and I they were trying to keep people from being overpowered.
10-07-2011, 08:34 AM
Thirdmango

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

So I maxed out my Fallout 3 dude... and i still have 3 DLCs to play... ummmm... I kinda dont want to play them now.

If you haven't done point lookout you should do it. The other two I'd maybe wait for a time you want to do a second play through, maybe evil or good, whichever you didn't do this time around.
10-07-2011, 02:50 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by Thirdmango

If you haven't done point lookout you should do it. The other two I'd maybe wait for a time you want to do a second play through, maybe evil or good, whichever you didn't do this time around.

Ok, which quest is that on my pipboy? Or which signal is that?
10-07-2011, 03:41 PM
monolith94

Yeah, point lookout is the most fun of them. It offers nice variety, and is just a cool environment, with a fun story.
10-07-2011, 03:42 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by monolith94

Yeah, point lookout is the most fun of them. It offers nice variety, and is just a cool environment, with a fun story.

I just read the wiki on it and it sounds very interesting. Ok im back in.

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Point Lookout in the Fallout setting has a landscape between one-sixth and one-fifth the size of the Capital Wasteland where "the bombs didn't actually fall, but the world has left it behind".
10-07-2011, 03:57 PM
D_Davis

Hey guys, back from a little MC break.

And I did something that I never thought I'd do - I'm back on Xbox Live gold.

Why?

Two words.

Dark Souls.

Pretty much the best game I've ever played. I was bummed to miss out on Demon's Souls, and so I was totally stoked that Dark Souls was on the 360.

Wow.

This game is unlike anything I've ever played. It's keeping me up at night. It's challenging as hell, but fair. It's an RPG that actually rewards player skill. It creates a story through actions, not through exposition and endless dialog trees. It never holds your hand. I'm printing out pages from the DS Wiki. I have a pad of graph paper by my television to jot down notes and make maps. I've put 10 hours into the game in the last 2 days and I've only explored probably 5% of the world.

In other words, I'm absolutely obsessed.

So basically I finally know what all you Demon's Souls people did a few years ago.
10-07-2011, 04:03 PM
Spun Lepton

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Originally Posted by D_Davis

So basically I finally know what all you Demon's Souls people did a few years ago.

Have you gotten to the point where the ridiculous difficulty is less fun and more frustrating?
10-07-2011, 04:20 PM
D_Davis

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Have you gotten to the point where the ridiculous difficulty is less fun and more frustrating?

No yet! :D

I've been fighting the same ~20 guys for the last 10 hours, perfecting my parrying/reposte timing, and learning the best ways to use my spear, axe, and bow. I just beat the first mini-boss, and now I think I'm ready to face one of the black knights.

It's difficult but it rewards skill and patience. And I love how every single encounter, no matter how small, is deadly and tense. I also love discovering each and every new little hallway or room, and how careful I have to be walking around.
10-07-2011, 05:10 PM
megladon8

Is "Dark Souls" a multiplayer-centric game?

I thought it was single player?
10-07-2011, 05:13 PM
shaun

Damn you, MMOs.

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