Mason City, eh? I think I might have been there once, but if I have traveled there I didn't remember much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scar
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Mason City, eh? I think I might have been there once, but if I have traveled there I didn't remember much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scar
I don't understand why people who wear plaid shirts, be passionate about bands and think vinyls are cool, watch Miranda July movies and talk about how great Austin is, would make fun of hipsters. Cognitive dissonance?
The couple I know do it because they're incorrectly labelled as hipsters. They're VERY laid back and see Hipsters as someone making them look bad, so they hate the culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by number8
Since I got approval for my surgery, I've been looking around at places to go experience for the last time, food wise.
Went to Cheesecake factory on Saturday. This weekend, we're back off to Orlando to hit Fogo de Chao.
Cannot. Wait. I am going to savor every morsel.
My point was that, at that point, you pretty much are a hipster. Especially once you start hating on hipsters.
I wonder who the most famous hipster is.
A lot of hipsters I've come across like the things they do "ironically" or are involved because of the fashion of it, not because they have any real passion towards the subject at hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by number8
People who really DO have those passions rarely are so condescending towards others that dont - its usually the pretenders that are. They need to feel validated.
Gary Busey.
Is that every hipster's goal? To be like Gary Busey? Do hipsters know they're hipsters? Or do they need to be told?Quote:
Originally Posted by number8
I haven't seen an ironic hipster in many, many years. I think it's presumptuous to assume that people do things ironically. Maybe some people do things just because they like to do them.
It's akin to claiming that David Lynch films are "trying too hard to be weird," or that experimental musicians try too hard to be different. Sometimes (re: most of the time, I think) people do things not to try to be anything, they do things because they like to do them and it makes them happy.
It's weird these days that so many people are quick to throw the term "hipster" around as an insult towards someone who is passionate about a hobby or cares about the way they look, dress and act.
I could care less about someone's hobbies or how they look, dress and act. My mantra has always been that if someone has a passion, GOOD - let them have that passion. We need people to focus on their passions to bring more positivity in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_Davis
In my view, "hipsters" as it were, use their 'passions' as an excuse to talk down to or denigrate others and their likes. The whole condescending, dismissive "oh, you probably haven't heard of them" bullshit still happens.
If you are really passionate about something, I mean REALLY passionate, wouldn't you want to share it with others? Show them what's so great about it? That's what I do. That's what a lot of people I know do. This subculture, though, it seems to relish the idea that something obscure "belongs" to them and even when they talk to you about it, there is not passion in their voice. Only disdain. They don't try to spread their love. They use their 'love' as a weapon.
When I see it done, it pisses me off to no end.
I've gotten into film conversations with people who've actually been upset by the fact that I not only knew who Wong Kar-Wai was, but that he was one of my favorite film makers. You'd THINK having a similar passion would be a great way to form a bond, but no...this guy not only stopped talking about him completely, he became rather glacial until he was able to find a filmmaker I had NOT heard of, then immediately shifted into "im superior" mode by telling me how I'm not a real fan of cinema unless blah blah blah.
It's happened more than once - and its happened to me and others I know.
There is no true passion in these people. They are stains on culture.
Now, are their people who dress/act like hipsters who have REAL passion for these things? Absolutely. I've had the pleasure of talking to them. I have a very good friend who is often mistaken for a hipster until people actually talk to him.
That's where the division is. People talk to you and then decide "oh, he's not a hipster after all" - it has nothing to do with your likes and passions. Its how you treat people.
And wow, that was a rant. Sorry. I get worked up about it, I admit. Maybe I need an intervention.
Sounds like you're describing a douch-bag or an asshole. Some hip people are douche-bags and assholes, some aren't, and not all assholes or douchebags are hip people. :)
Yeah, I believe you kinda made up that division yourself, Fezzik. Which is fine, but that definitely isn't the division most adhere to. The thing with the term hipster is that it is immensely vague in definition, and is as much about fashion sense and artistic taste than anything in the way the term is used by most people. Which is why I find people who get really worked up about it because they fit the description somewhat strange.
You're right - its just that it seems the term "hipster" has evolved to only include those who act like douchebags. Other people who are hip but NOT douchebags seem to escape that label...at least in my experience/circles.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_Davis
Caring about the way you dress is what metro-sexuals do. Hipsters do the opposite and don't care and wear clashing clothes, stupid mustaches, thick rimmed classes and wear V neck shirts that says "Buy less Fuck More" while showing off their chest tattoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_Davis
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kz...zhzdo1_500.jpg
That dude definitely cares about the way he looks.
If he did, he wouldn't be working at a used record store.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_Davis
I'm totally stereotyping and I know this.
And here is the most famous and successful hipster
http://media.komonews.com/images/120...ek_chic_lg.jpg.
You don't wax your mustache, keep your beard tightly trimmed and shaped, wear a matching head band, and have ear gauges if you don't care about the way you look.
Ok, what I mean is, you don't care about the way society looks at you. Better?Quote:
Originally Posted by D_Davis
It's not an accepted look which would allow him to seek employment outside of minimum wage jobs and some form of fine art profession. Sad but true.
I've given up on identifying hipsters. The term seems like my generation's new variation on "emo." Might've been useful for a few months, now meaningless.
Who is that? No sarcasm intended. I don't recognize him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukefrukem
Or a job at flight control at NASA. Or a software engineer. Or a job at Microsoft. Or at Amazon. Or Google.
NASA - flight control for Mars landing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fezzik