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08-22-2012, 05:03 PM
D_Davis

The solution is easy: we need to stop talking about things that cause people to get angry and passionate.

Let's start a list of contraband topics:

1. Batman
2. Comic books and related films
08-22-2012, 05:07 PM
Sven

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Originally Posted by D_Davis

1. Batman
2. Comic books and related films

My posting here would be axed by at least 80% if we implement this.
08-22-2012, 05:09 PM
Qrazy

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

I can't read all the discussions because I don't want to spoil the content for myself, but I know the last post you had in that thread and I'd say you were definitely a factor with him leaving whether you want to believe it or not.

And yeh, maybe I will leave, since it's pointless to continue here. Although the content is different, the same point driven arguments continue to occur, people get offended which leads to people acting out of line with no repercussions from the parties at fault, no one ever apologizes for anything, (except maybe MM and Meg) no one ever takes responsibility and the site will eventually die a slow painful death.

A person can't control other people, what they can control is their response. Should I get all pissy and flustered because you're blaming me for Irish's leaving? By your logic above you owe me an apology for that type of comment.

But no, I'm not pissy nor do I want an apology because it's of no consequence. It's words on a page and I know the people here well enough not to take most remarks personally, even when they are meant that way.

People do actually apologize for things when they get way out of line (I have PM'd people in the past and they me) but most of the time things don't get that out of hand and in this instance I do not think in the slightest that I owe Irish an apology. My advice is grow a thicker skin.
08-22-2012, 05:09 PM
D_Davis

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Originally Posted by Sven

My posting here would be axed by at least 80% if we implement this.

That's the joke.

You should have followed up with:

3. Ambient/Electronic music
4. Dark Souls
5. Genre fiction
08-22-2012, 05:10 PM
Qrazy

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

The memes are an example of this.

:rolleyes:
08-22-2012, 05:11 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by Qrazy

A person can't control other people, what they can control is their response. Should I get all pissy and flustered because you're blaming me for Irish's leaving? By your logic above you owe me an apology for that type of comment.

But no, I'm not pissy nor do I want an apology because it's of no consequence. It's words on a page and I know the people here well enough not to take most remarks personally, even when they are meant that way.

People do actually apologize for things when they get way out of line (I have PM'd people in the past and they me) but most of the time things don't get that out of hand and in this instance I do not think in the slightest that I owe Irish an apology. My advice is grow a thicker skin.

You don't owe Irish an apology. You owe MC an apology for losing a great poster.
08-22-2012, 05:12 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by Qrazy

:rolleyes:

They are dude. Every time you post that stupid pear with the teeth. That's a form of trolling.
08-22-2012, 05:14 PM
Qrazy

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

You don't owe Irish an apology. You owe MC an apology for losing a great poster.

You owe me the course of action of shutting the fuck up.
08-22-2012, 05:15 PM
D_Davis

You guys should PM each other apologies.
08-22-2012, 05:15 PM
Qrazy

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Originally Posted by D_Davis

You guys should PM each other apologies.

You should PM me a picture of a pear so that I can eat it.
08-22-2012, 05:16 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by Qrazy

You owe me the course of action of shutting the fuck up.

By your logic, it's my fault you resorted to vulgarities. Which is wrong btw.
08-22-2012, 05:17 PM
Dead & Messed Up

Wow. Things happened this morning.
08-22-2012, 05:17 PM
Raiders

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

You don't owe Irish an apology. You owe MC an apology for losing a great poster.

That's ridiculous. This whole conversation is ridiculous. People leave internet sites. It happens. None of this is worth getting your feelings hurt or feeling tired and weary of posting. It's just a site. There's a million of them, not to mention more importantly there is real life. If you feel absolutely done with a website, then it's over. It was not for me to appeal to Irish beyond expressing I valued his posts and wished he would stay. He's not logging back in under that name. Whether he lurks is up to him, but he is done interacting.

Nonetheless to what I said above, it will get passionate and heated. It's an opinion website where people stay for long periods of time. Arguments happen. I wish people would stop using the barrier of the Internet to be assholish in ways they wouldn't be in real life, but that's the nature of the beast.

For the future of the community, it isn't about people leaving. That is inevitable. It's about replenishment.
08-22-2012, 05:19 PM
Qrazy

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

By your logic, it's my fault you resorted to vulgarities. Which is wrong btw.

Oh no, don't tell my mommy.

No but for realz don't tell her cause she has a swear jar and I just can't take that kind of financial hit right now.
08-22-2012, 05:21 PM
Qrazy

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Originally Posted by Raiders

That's ridiculous. This whole conversation is ridiculous. People leave internet sites. It happens. None of this is worth getting your feelings hurt or feeling tired and weary of posting. It's just a site. There's a million of them, not to mention more importantly there is real life. If you feel absolutely done with a website, then it's over. It was not for me to appeal to Irish beyond expressing I valued his posts and wished he would stay. He's not logging back in under that name. Whether he lurks is up to him, but he is done interacting.

Nonetheless to what I said above, it will get passionate and heated. It's an opinion website where people stay for long periods of time. Arguments happen. I wish people would stop using the barrier of the Internet to be assholish in ways they wouldn't be in real life, but that's the nature of the beast.

For the future of the community, it isn't about people leaving. That is inevitable. It's about replenishment.

I am curious though, are we really at a lower rate of new posters than in the past? I thought we had a bit of an influx.

Did my appeal to lurkers thread DO NOTHING???
08-22-2012, 05:23 PM
Raiders

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Originally Posted by Qrazy

I am curious though, are we really at a lower rate of new posters than in the past? I thought we had a bit of an influx.

No, not really. We never have had much influx. The people here now were here by-and-large seven years ago.

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Did my appeal to lurkers thread DO NOTHING???

Sadly, it did very little I think. Most lurkers are looking at specific topics I would imagine and may not have even seen your thread. I think most of the unregistered viewers, outside the 95% of which are bots or crawlers, get here by way of a specific topic and not because they actually heard about us.
08-22-2012, 05:25 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by Raiders

That's ridiculous. This whole conversation is ridiculous. People leave internet sites. It happens. None of this is worth getting your feelings hurt or feeling tired and weary of posting. It's just a site. There's a million of them, not to mention more importantly there is real life. If you feel absolutely done with a website, then it's over. It was not for me to appeal to Irish beyond expressing I valued his posts and wished he would stay. He's not logging back in under that name. Whether he lurks is up to him, but he is done interacting.

Nonetheless to what I said above, it will get passionate and heated. It's an opinion website where people stay for long periods of time. Arguments happen. I wish people would stop using the barrier of the Internet to be assholish in ways they wouldn't be in real life, but that's the nature of the beast.

For the future of the community, it isn't about people leaving. That is inevitable. It's about replenishment.

I'm saddened you feel that way, really. I don't look at it like that one bit. Even though you refer to MC as a "community" later in your post, you reduce to "just a site". It takes so much time to get to know people on the internet and feel comfortable posting somewhere. Time is valuable and therefor I will never reduce MC to "just a site". Where I spend my time is important to me. Of course there will be websites that are "just a site" but I doubt people here go to reedit to post relationship problems or ask for advice.... I doubt people go to RT to wish people a happy birthday or talk about Contemporary Moral Issues. I've known you guys for 8 years (roughly). It is a community and it is fun reflect on solid landmark discussions we had back in 2006. I am not an advocate of all good things must come to an end.
08-22-2012, 05:27 PM
number8

For the record, I am a bit perplexed at this picture that's being painted that Irish was a guy who simply held minority opinions and was harassed because of it.

Let's get some perspective here. He left after arguing about a TV episode's writing and his last post is telling someone "you know fuck all about story." In another thread, apropos of nothing, Irish responded to me talking about a show I just discovered by calling me a twelve year old. I wasn't offended by it, but the idea is that those talks happen on this site, and calling for people to apologize when there was no harsh name calling or personal attacks made, is positively absurd.

I'm with Raiders.
08-22-2012, 05:27 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by Qrazy

Oh no, don't tell my mommy.

No but for realz don't tell her cause she has a swear jar and I just can't take that kind of financial hit right now.

Are you proud of this post? Are you proud Irish left? Just wondering.
08-22-2012, 05:28 PM
Dukefrukem

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Originally Posted by number8

I'm with Raiders.

Course you are
08-22-2012, 05:31 PM
amberlita

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Originally Posted by Watashi

Wait. Wait. Wait. What did I do?

:lol: Absolutely nothing. I was just joking and wanted to tease some innocent person who would suspect and deserve it the least. I'm a fan of ya Wats.

I don't think any one single person deserves the blame for Irish (or Meg) leaving, but MC posters have a tendency to either be so relentless with their arguments that it exhausts the opposing person, so dismissive of opinions that it exasperates others or hit below the belt when either one of those two things happens first. It's really a shame.
08-22-2012, 05:33 PM
amberlita

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Originally Posted by Mara

Let's see... what is perfect? Jimmy Stewart. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. The Buffy episode "The Body." Fell's Point. Chicken tikka masala. Middlemarch. "Now Ida, in a hurry, snatched her Mama's yellow rain cloak, tucked her horn safe in a pocket, and made a serious mistake."

Oh dear god, YES! I have branched out a time or two when I go to Indian restaurants but I rarely get anything but this and tend to crave it at least once a week. Love.

Oddly enough, I did have a couple issues with "The Body" but I've never mentioned them. It is a great episode but definitely not perfect. :)
08-22-2012, 05:36 PM
Raiders

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

I'm saddened you feel that way, really. I don't look at it like that one bit. Even though you refer to MC as a "community" later in your post, you reduce to "just a site".

I don't mean it as "just a place to kill time" as much as I mean it in respect to my close friends and family being the ones I am willing to have heated arguments with or persevere after a fallout. With any website or Internet community, I would cut ties.
08-22-2012, 05:38 PM
Qrazy

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

Are you proud of this post? Are you proud Irish left? Just wondering.

Are you proud to be the paladin of justice and all that is true and good and right in this world?
08-22-2012, 05:39 PM
number8

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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem

Course you are

Out of curiosity, is this the type of dismissive one-liner in response to a lengthy post that you were referring to earlier?