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I want some nice weather so I can get back to my cigars.
17 fucking inches of snow, and that's not including the few inches that fell today.
My flight was canceled, and I won't get in to St Louis until 4:10PM on Tueday. Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday are going to be insanely busy.
Sorry, Scar, that sucks the big one.
It's like you live in Minnesota or something.
Damn, that sucks. Random drug tests? They treat you guys like children. Or children in prison.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of job do you do?
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
Drug tests are not all that uncommon in North America, even for minimum wage retail jobs.
A friend in NYC had to submit blood, urine and stool samples for a food prep job at a retirement home.
Well, I find that to be fucking preposterous.
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
I do too, but it doesn't really matter.
Don't like it? You're not getting a job.
They do it at my work because we have large quantities of controlled substances on the premises (mostly psychotropic medication.) If an employee was sneaking it there could be major problems.
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Originally Posted by Mara
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IT'S A PSYCHOTROPIC HALLUCINOGEN. A PANIC-INDUCING TOXIN.
GROWL GROWL GROWL.
Hahah the Scarecrow was my first thought as well.
I can get it in Mara's case, but if I worked in the US, either washing dishes or at a law firm, I'd be pretty upset at my employers snooping around what I do in the privacy of my home life. It's not the same as a medical test, even if the drug results would come up either way.
Unfortunately it's just the way it is here, Grouchy.
Jobs are so hard to come by in the first place that the place that's hiring wants to make sure that they get the best candidate possible, because there are just SO many people applying.
So if a Wal-Mart is looking to hire a cashier and they have two candidates that have equally good resumes, are friendly and personable, and have equal availability, then often the drug test is what determines who gets a job.
If one of them tests positive for THC (marijuana) and the other is clean, they'll hire the clean one, even if they are, for all intents and purposes, equal.
I don't agree with it either, but again, that's just the way things are here.
True story -- there was a guy at my work a couple years back who lost his arm to a blender while on cocaine. He immediately lost his job for being under the influence on the clock and probably won't see a dollar in reimbursement. Trial is still being disputed to this day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grouchy
I do find it stupid that the nature of the drug screens do not discriminate between whether you're at you're own leisure or on company hours, but when it comes to endangering yourself or others (especially when operating heavy machinery) I'm an advocate for drug testing. Having now moved on to management in the company, I can say from experience that the employees who have failed random drug screens are ones we don't really miss anyway. The ideal scenario would be to develop testing to determine if the drugs are in the employee's system on the spot and only test if given reason to do so. But I'd rather have this system in place than none at all.
Firefighting. I have no problem with it really. Fully understandable to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grouchy
For the record, I've been working entry-level retail and restaurant jobs in North America since I was sixteen and I have never had to take a drug test ever.
My maintenance job on the other hand doesn't do any drug testing unless it's an injury on the job like mentioned above. I think most jobs are along these lines.
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Originally Posted by Sven
Me either.
I just know it's pretty common these days.
I've never heard of drug testing in restaurants, either. Based on my work experience, if you hair tested kitchen/wait staff across the county I would bet 70% of them would fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sven
I only actually took one once, but I've worked three jobs where I signed an agreement to be tested if asked.
The one time was awful. They sent me to a clinic, and I thought it would be like a doctor's office, but instead it was like a DMV where everyone was wearing ankle monitors and looking at me funny. I had an appointment and still waited three hours. I used the bathroom while waiting and became paranoid about having enough pee when they finally called me.
That job involved me driving a company vehicle and the drug test was a one-time part of the hiring process for insurance reasons.
My now-job deals with the nearby hospital for tests and I've heard it's quick and convenient.
Background checks on the other hand....
I've never been drug tested either. I'm pretty sure most corporate offices don't test you.
My parents used to give me home drug tests every week, but I just added water to my urine and it diluted it enough that I passed them no problem.
Now that I think of it, there's really no reason for a company to actually pay for a drug test. The only people they'd typically suspect are people making claims off injuries, in which the doctor does that, or if you're on parole, then it's your officer.
I wonder how many companies actually do drug tests.
Has anyone heard anything from Winston since the NZ earthquake?
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It's never lupus.