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Saya
05-27-2008, 08:10 PM
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He said it a bunch of times before, but it seems like Tarantino's next movie will finally be Inglorious Bastards. He's been working on it for a long long time.

He answered a question about which movie he is making next it in an interview at Cannes, which you can watch here (http://cannes2008.canalplus.fr/emission-le-grand-journal-de-cannes-du-22-mai-page1.aspx?PlayVideo=1). The interview has a french voice over, so it's kinda hard to hear it.


Host: What are the next films that you are going to be making? We're hearing KILL BILL 3, KILL BILL 4, which one is it?

Tarantino: The next movie I'm doing is my World War II movie. I just finished up the first draft and if ALL GOES WELL, I will be here, in Cannes, in 2009 with INGLORIOUS BASTARDS!

Ezee E
05-27-2008, 08:15 PM
How I would love to with that were true.

But I don't believe it.

It will happen eventually, and that will be my most anticipated movie ever.

Rowland
05-27-2008, 08:23 PM
Just finished the first draft? I thought he has been working on it for years.

Raiders
05-27-2008, 08:41 PM
Yeah right, Inglorious Bastards will be there right next to WKW's The Lady from Shanghai. Please. He has been "working" on this thing for years off and on, and now he has a draft written and suddenly it will be out in less than a year? He's notorious for putting off projects and changing his mind. He has made six features in over fifteen years of work and somehow constantly stays in the public's interest.

Grouchy
05-27-2008, 08:53 PM
Regardless, I'm watching the original Inglorious Bastards pretty soon for kicks.

number8
05-27-2008, 08:55 PM
Just finished the first draft? I thought he has been working on it for years.

He's very, very lazy.

Kurosawa Fan
05-27-2008, 08:56 PM
I can't wait until his Friday the 13th remake arrives!!!

Watashi
05-27-2008, 09:13 PM
I personally rather see Kill Bill 3 than Inglorious Bastards.

Sycophant
05-27-2008, 09:16 PM
I hope it happens, though it may very well be Cannes 2012.

[ETM]
05-27-2008, 09:42 PM
It's Duke Nukem Forever all over again.

megladon8
05-27-2008, 09:45 PM
He hasn't impressed me much since Jackie Brown.

I'm not holding my breath for this one.

Qrazy
05-27-2008, 09:56 PM
I personally rather see Kill Bill 3 than Inglorious Bastards.

Not that big a fan of the Kill Bills but yeah there was a lot of 'unfinished' business in the second that could make for an interesting sequel.

Ezee E
05-27-2008, 11:13 PM
What else could there be in a Kill Bill sequel that would make it more exciting then a WWII men on a mission movie?

Nothing excites me more then to see what Tarantino will do with that type of movie.

Qrazy
05-28-2008, 12:57 AM
What else could there be in a Kill Bill sequel that would make it more exciting then a WWII men on a mission movie?

Nothing excites me more then to see what Tarantino will do with that type of movie.

Asian girls in skimpy outfits.

origami_mustache
05-28-2008, 05:34 AM
I thought the plans were for Kill Bill prequels.

megladon8
06-20-2008, 06:43 AM
It's going to be two movies, like Kill Bill. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37149)

Pull your head out of your ass, Quentin.

MacGuffin
06-20-2008, 07:01 AM
It's going to be two movies, like Kill Bill. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37149)

Pull your head out of your ass, Quentin.

Wow! Two movies! What a swell idea! That will totally make them better then if they were just one!

:rolleyes:

MacGuffin
06-20-2008, 07:02 AM
Oh, and your comment made me laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it10XM_zmwI

Spinal
06-20-2008, 07:11 AM
There will be bloat.

Ezee E
06-20-2008, 10:46 AM
I remember Quentin talking about the possibility of it being comparable to a miniseries on HBO as it was 300 pages or so.

Sycophant
06-20-2008, 03:42 PM
OKAY!

MadMan
06-20-2008, 05:11 PM
I will believe that this movie exists when I see stills and a goddamn preview. Until then I remain skeptical that he really is going to make this movie.

Grouchy
06-20-2008, 05:27 PM
So, in 57 years, Inglorious Bastards: The Entire Dirty Adventure will come out on DVD?

Spinal
06-20-2008, 05:31 PM
So, in 57 years, Inglorious Bastards: The Entire Dirty Adventure will come out on DVD?

Yes, but it will appear on Match Cut top 10 lists beginning in 2010.

MadMan
06-21-2008, 02:52 AM
Yes, but it will appear on Match Cut top 10 lists beginning in 2010.It will probably be my #5 or #6.

ledfloyd
06-21-2008, 02:20 PM
looking forward to this but the two movie idea is kind of a bummer. make a four hour movie with an intermission. or do the miniseries thing like they do in europe. two movies is silly. it was especially silly for kill bill as neither movie works as well as the entire thing watched front to back.

Saya
07-11-2008, 08:36 AM
Tarantino has finished his script for Inglorious Bastards and sent it to a couple websites.

Latino Review (http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-a-look-at-the-script-for-tarantino-s-inglorious-bastards-4978)

Vulture (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/07/weve_got_quentin_tarantinos_in .html)


http://i37.tinypic.com/20fypgg.jpg


Quentin Tarantino has just gone out with his long-anticipated script Inglorious Bastards about World War II.

I scored the awesome script and took a look. ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT TARANTINO spells Bastards with an E as in Basterds.

Here is a preview of Tarnatino’s kickassery!

My name is Lt. Aldo Raine, and I’m putting together a special team. And I need me eight soldiers. Eight – Jewish – American – Soldiers. Now y’all might have heard rumors about the armada happening soon. Well, we’ll be leavin a little earlier. We’re gonna be dropped into France, dressed as civilians. And once we’re in enemy territory, as a bushwackin’ guerilla army, we’re gonna be doin one thing, and thing only, Killin Nazi’s. The members of the Nationalist Socialist Party, have conquered Europe through murder, torture, intimidation, and terror. And that’s exactly what we’re gonna do to them. Now I don’t know about y’all. But I sure as hell, didn’t come down from the goddamn smoky mountains, cross five thousand miles of water, fight my way through half Sicily, and then jump out of a fuckin air-o-plane, to teach the Nazi’s lessons in humanity. Nazi ain’t got no humanity. There the foot soldiers of a Jew hatin, mass murderin manic, and they need to be destroyed. That’s why any and every son-of-a-bitch we find wearin a Nazi uniform, there gonna die. We will be cruel to the Germans, and through our cruelty, they will know who we are. They will find the evidence of our cruelty, in the disemboweled, dismembered, and disfigured bodies of their brothers we leave behind us. And the German will not be able to help themselves from imagining the cruelty their brothers endured at our hands, and our boot heals, and the edge of our knives. And the Germans, will be sickened by us. And the Germans, will talk about us. And the Germans, will fear us. And when the Germans close their eyes at night, and their subconscious tortures them for the evil they’ve done, it will be with thoughts of us, that it tortures them with. But I got a word of warning to all would be warriors. When you join my command, you take on debit. A debit you owe me, personally. Every man under my command, owes me, one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. And all y’all will git me, one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred Nazi’s or you will die trying.

-Lt. Aldo Raine aka Aldo the Apache

That folks is pretty much the jist of what Tarantino's masterpiece is about. Per Seth Rogen, Jews got laid because of Eric Bana in Munich. If that is the case, then Jews are going to be having 70’s era Hugh Hefner style orgies because of the eight badasses of Tarantino’s INGLORIOUS BASTERDS! The Basterds are not in the prisoner takin business. The Basterds are in the killin Nazi business. And cousin business is boomin according to Lt. Aldo. The role of Lt. Aldo has been offered to Brad Pitt who would be on some serious crack if he passes on this.

The above monologue was taken from the opening of the 2nd chapter of 5 titled: Inglorious Basterds – my favorite chapter. Don’t get me wrong, Chapter One: Once Upon a Time … Nazi Occupied France , Chapter Three: German Night in Paris, Chapter Four: Operation Kino, Chapter Five: Revenge of the Giant Face are very solidly written. Chapter 5 is a nailbiter.

If you took the bad guy swagger of RESERVOIR DOGS, the uber coolness and structure of PULP FICTION, throw in the revenge angle of KILL BILL, set it in World War II – you get INGLORIOUS BASTERDS.

My favorite basterd? SGT. Donny Donowitz aka THE BEAR JEW. He bashes in German soldier’s skulls with a baseball bat. According to the German legend, The Bear Jew is a Golem. An avenging Jew angel, conjured up by a vengeful rabbi, to smite the Aryans!

Where there are good guys, there are bad guys and the main bad guy of this 165 page epic is COL. HANS LANDA aka THE JEW HUNTER. An evil fucker and a delicious role for someone like Tim Roth.

Plot-wise, what is INGLORIOUS BASTERDS about?

The bastards have to take part in OPERATION KINO, go behind enemy lines and bomb a movie theater in Nazi occupied France which is premiering Goebble’s (Hitler’s right hand man) latest German propaganda war film. A French Jewish teenager named SHOSANNA (her family is massacred by Col Landa in Chapter 1), flees to Paris, where she winds up running the movie theater that the bastards have to bomb.

Shosanna has her own plans for the German hierarchy on premiere night.

Hands down, the script was the most enjoyable read of the year for me so far. Again, a masterpiece.

Killer dialogue, excellent execution, and master craftsmanship by Tarantino.

The script is supposed to go into production this October to premiere in Cannes next May and I am eager as hell to see the finished product. Trust me folks, waiting all these years for Tarantino to be done with

INGLORIOUS BASTERDS was worth the wait.

HASTA EL PROXIMO CAPITULO…

The rumors are that filming will start in October. :pritch:

Winston*
07-11-2008, 09:28 AM
Has Tarantino been reading Blood Meridian or something? Scalps, wtf?

Morris Schæffer
07-11-2008, 10:55 AM
Two movies, one movie. I don't care. This is massive cause for celebration!!!!

The cast is going to be glorious!

:pritch:

Winston*
07-11-2008, 11:00 AM
The cast is going to be glorious!
More like INglorious!!! Hahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Winston*
07-11-2008, 11:01 AM
More like INglorious!!! Hahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Post of the year.

Morris Schæffer
07-11-2008, 04:28 PM
More like INglorious!!! Hahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Heh indeed. I was going to put something after that sentence like "no pun intended" or some other shit. :)

I'm hoping Tarantino will cast a bunch of has-beens.

Ezee E
07-11-2008, 04:36 PM
Heh indeed. I was going to put something after that sentence like "no pun intended" or some other shit. :)

I'm hoping Tarantino will cast a bunch of has-beens.
Brad Pitt, Stallone, Sandler, and the Schwarz has-beens enough for you?

Morris Schæffer
07-11-2008, 04:59 PM
Brad Pitt, Stallone, Sandler, and the Schwarz has-beens enough for you?

I've also read the name Pitt yesterday and Sandler was announced years ago if I recall, but Arnie and Stallone?!

D_Davis
07-11-2008, 05:06 PM
I am totally stoked.

number8
07-11-2008, 07:54 PM
I envy and detest Tarantino for one specific thing. He's one of the top screenwriters in Hollywood, but he doesn't know proper screenplay formatting or even spelling and grammar. Any wannabe writer reading his scripts would have the impression that neither of those things matter, only your dialogue and story. Which is... ugh. I get a headache just thinking about it.

Grouchy
07-12-2008, 11:20 PM
I envy and detest Tarantino for one specific thing. He's one of the top screenwriters in Hollywood, but he doesn't know proper screenplay formatting or even spelling and grammar. Any wannabe writer reading his scripts would have the impression that neither of those things matter, only your dialogue and story. Which is... ugh. I get a headache just thinking about it.
One particularly weird thing he does in screenplays (at least in Jackie Brown's) is describing the entire past life and even the musical taste of a character, even when it has no relevance and it's not mentioned in the actual movie.

Usually I hate that - when writers put in the script any stuff that the images are unable to show.

MacGuffin
07-12-2008, 11:27 PM
The Pursuit of the Happyness by the Inglorious Basterds.

megladon8
07-12-2008, 11:32 PM
I don't even think his dialogue is all that great.

Sure, Pulp Fiction is a modern masterpiece...but his dialogue worked there, due to the film's subject matter and style.

Every other movie he's done involves him jacking off in our face, telling us how much he loves obscure '70s movies.

Yes, I know you've seen everything by Herschell Gordon Lewis, now will you get on with telling the actual story.

Grouchy
07-12-2008, 11:36 PM
I saw the original Inglorious Basterds, by the way. A very fun actioner with lots of casualties and tense situations. From start to finish it's all shootin' and screamin'. I'm guessing the plot of the movie only plays a very small part in Tarantino's remake if it's that long. The original is barely 80 minutes.

Oh, and Fred Williamson is a very cool guy.

Sven
07-12-2008, 11:40 PM
Every other movie he's done involves him jacking off in our face, telling us how much he loves obscure '70s movies.

Yes, I know you've seen everything by Herschell Gordon Lewis, now will you get on with telling the actual story.

I really really really don't get how Pulp Fiction is immune to these criticisms.

megladon8
07-12-2008, 11:51 PM
I really really really don't get how Pulp Fiction is immune to these criticisms.


Because the whole point of the film was that it was a pop culture celebration, a literal piece of pulp fiction where the characters exist in movie land and seem to be aware of their, well, pulp existence.

All of his other films are supposed to be fairly straight-forward story telling, but his self conscious, self referential dialogue comes across cocky and without any emotion or depth.

transmogrifier
07-13-2008, 12:13 AM
I really really really don't get how Pulp Fiction is immune to these criticisms.

Simple: because it works as a film in other ways. Homage, references and being movie-movie is neither a mark of shame nor a mark of quality, but merely shading around a film that is either good or not, based on other, more important, factors.

Sven
07-13-2008, 12:16 AM
Simple: because it works as a film in other ways. Homage, references and being movie-movie is neither a mark of shame nor a mark of quality, but merely shading around a film that is either good or not, based on other, more important, factors.

I suppose my point is that I do not get how Pulp Fiction is like this, but Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, and Death Proof are not. Kill Bill and Death Proof are more explicitly reference-heavy, but Jackie Brown has about as much in common with blaxploitation as Pulp Fiction does with A Band Apart. And even KB and DP take pains to create their own world and style, I'd say, all being very recognizable Tarantino worlds.

transmogrifier
07-13-2008, 12:23 AM
Fair enough. My point was more that when we dislike a film, we try to latch on to everything as definitive proof that it's crap, from acting to dialogue to an overreliance on pop references. However, this final component, in my mind, neither good nor bad - what people are trying to express, I think, is a dissatisfaction with the depth and emotional content of the film, and the criticism of this surface layer of homage et al becomes a handy stand-in, without actually ever being the problem.

number8
07-13-2008, 12:43 AM
Because the whole point of the film was that it was a pop culture celebration, a literal piece of pulp fiction where the characters exist in movie land and seem to be aware of their, well, pulp existence.

????

And his other movies aren't?!! Kill Bill is particularly far more self-referential than Pulp Fiction, to the point where Bill repeatedly acknowledge the fact that they are living a Shaw Bros movie. That movie has airplanes with katana holders on the seats, for god's sake.

iosos is right, Tarantino doesn't really mimic anyone's style in his movies as much as he follows his own (and what that is is most concretely defined in Reservoir Dogs, I think) and then have his characters behave like they know they're pulp characters. Sam Jackson in Jackie Brown is practically a pimp cane away from being a blaxpoitation stereotype, and in Death Proof that thrilling car sequence wouldn't even happen if Zoe Bell doesn't realize that she's indestructible and get on the hood of the car on her own will. That isn't how slashers generally work. It's far from straightforward storytelling.

Bosco B Thug
07-13-2008, 12:47 AM
Someone tell me how Death Proof is reference heavy. Vanishing Point and Mike's history = character development. Retro opening credits = why not?


but Jackie Brown has about as much in common with blaxploitation as Pulp Fiction does with A Band Apart. Totally (although I'm being disingenuous, I have not seen A Band Apart...)

And I find Death Proof just as, if not even more, creative and fresh as all the transgressive mayhem and violence-philosophy enmeshing of Pulp Fiction. As I should probably quit establishing, I think it is a good movie "in other ways" (not empty), so it's movie-movieness is an alright thing for me. :D

But, to get to a point, I agree that I don't think any of his films should be set apart as not guilty of movie-movieness/cocky geekery indulgence.

Ezee E
07-13-2008, 02:41 AM
This movie will beat out Dark Knight for most pages before its release.

MacGuffin
07-13-2008, 06:33 AM
I don't even think his dialogue is all that great.


No, it is not. And like Kevin Smith, who also writes some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard, his movies don't even look very good, with the exception of maybe a few sequences in Kill Bill, Vol. 1 and the opening scene of Pulp Fiction. So what are we left with? I don't know really. His movies can be enjoyable, and Reservoir Dogs is him at his best, and also most original. But I think he's not that talented of a director because he has no style of his own. He evokes styles from different cultures and other decades that he has no business evoking. In short, he's made it clear he's a movie buff and had worked at a video store for who cares how long, but has he really showed us he's that amazing of a director?

Qrazy
07-13-2008, 07:06 AM
Someone tell me how Death Proof is reference heavy. Vanishing Point and Mike's history = character development. Retro opening credits = why not?

Totally (although I'm being disingenuous, I have not seen A Band Apart...)

And I find Death Proof just as, if not even more, creative and fresh as all the transgressive mayhem and violence-philosophy enmeshing of Pulp Fiction. As I should probably quit establishing, I think it is a good movie "in other ways" (not empty), so it's movie-movieness is an alright thing for me. :D

But, to get to a point, I agree that I don't think any of his films should be set apart as not guilty of movie-movieness/cocky geekery indulgence.

There is no A Band Apart (except maybe a production company). It's either Bande Ã* part or Band of Outsiders.

Pop Trash
07-13-2008, 08:25 AM
No, it is not. And like Kevin Smith, who also writes some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard, his movies don't even look very good, with the exception of maybe a few sequences in Kill Bill, Vol. 1 and the opening scene of Pulp Fiction. So what are we left with? I don't know really. His movies can be enjoyable, and Reservoir Dogs is him at his best, and also most original. But I think he's not that talented of a director because he has no style of his own. He evokes styles from different cultures and other decades that he has no business evoking. In short, he's made it clear he's a movie buff and had worked at a video store for who cares how long, but has he really showed us he's that amazing of a director?
I'm curious how old you are vs. how old the Tarantino defenders are on here? I wonder if age has something to do with if you like Tarantino or not? Just curious since I think film culture as a whole has changed immensly over the past ten years or so. DVDs, Netflix, Criterion, downloading, and the internet makes it much more possible to be a "cinephile" than ever before. I hate to sound all "hey you kids get off my lawn" here but I'm 27. I was in high school when Pulp Fiction came out and it was a really big deal at the time. I wonder if younger people that have just known Tarantino to be a big time, established director since they started getting into film have different feelings towards him. I do think he did a lot for cinema in the 90s. I mean, both Wong Kar Wai and Takeshi Kitano's films got distribution over here in part because of his prodding.

Tarantino to me is a bit like Nirvana was to rock music. I mean younger people looking back might be like "eh what's the big deal? I like The Pixies, Sonic Youth, etc. better anyways" but being around at the time when Slaughter, Warrent, Great White, etc. were all over the radio and considerd serious rock bands, I kind of understand the impact Nirvana had. I guess the same goes for Tarantino.

Saya
07-13-2008, 08:28 AM
I saw the original Inglorious Basterds, by the way. A very fun actioner with lots of casualties and tense situations. From start to finish it's all shootin' and screamin'. I'm guessing the plot of the movie only plays a very small part in Tarantino's remake if it's that long. The original is barely 80 minutes.

Oh, and Fred Williamson is a very cool guy.

The scene with Williamson and the swimming German chicks gets me every time. He's awesome.

The original is one of my favorite movies, I love it. I hope we'll see some cameo appearances from the original cast in Tarantino's movie.

MacGuffin
07-13-2008, 08:39 AM
I'm curious how old you are vs. how old the Tarantino defenders are on here? I wonder if age has something to do with if you like Tarantino or not? Just curious since I think film culture as a whole has changed immensly over the past ten years or so. DVDs, Criterion, downloading, the internet makes it much more possible to be a "cinephile" than ever before. I hate to sound all "hey you kids get off my lawn" here but I'm 27. I was in high school when Pulp Fiction came out and it was a really big deal at the time. I wonder if younger people that have just known Tarantino to be a big time, established director since they started getting into film have different feelings towards him. I do think he did a lot for cinema in the 90s. I mean, both Wong Kar Wai and Takeshi Kitano's films got distribution over here in part because of his prodding.

Tarantino to me is a bit like Nirvana was to rock music. I mean younger people looking back might be like "eh what's the big deal? I like The Pixies, Sonic Youth, etc. better anyways" but being around at the time when Slaughter, Warrent, Great White, etc. were all over the radio and considerd serious rock bands, I kind of understand the impact Nirvana had. I guess the same goes for Tarantino.

I'm younger than you. So no, I don't think age means anything.

Pop Trash
07-13-2008, 09:00 AM
I'm younger than you. So no, I don't think age means anything.
But that's my point...

MacGuffin
07-13-2008, 09:19 AM
But that's my point...

I don't really like Tarantino. I thought that was your point.

Watashi
07-13-2008, 09:57 AM
Wait.... did Clip just say Reservoir Dogs is QT's most original movie?

Qrazy
07-13-2008, 03:56 PM
I don't really like Tarantino. I thought that was your point.

Did you even read his post?

MacGuffin
07-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Did you even read his post?

Sorry. Reread it, I still do not agree.

D_Davis
07-13-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm 33, and I can say, without a doubt, that Tarantino, and his films, has had a huge impact on my love for cinema. Through his films, interviews, and passion he has introduced me to many of my now favorite films and directors.

Here are my top 5 cinematic influences, or the filmmakers who have made me really like watching movies:

1. George Lucas - hate his stuff now, but Star Wars shaped me early childhood more than anything. It was the first live action film I saw in a theater.

2. Peter Jackson - discovering Bad Taste and Dead Alive on VHS in the 1990s was a breath of fresh air.

3. Tarantino - see above

4. Tsui Hark - seeing Once Upon a Time in 1993 changed my life

5. Black Belt Theater - a collection of films and directors that made me love martial arts cinema.

Bosco B Thug
07-13-2008, 08:19 PM
There is no A Band Apart (except maybe a production company). It's either Bande Ã* part or Band of Outsiders. Oh, right....

Haha, I knew that... well, I knew it in the "There's something confusing about this Wikipedia page..." sense.

Pop Trash
07-13-2008, 08:56 PM
I'm 33, and I can say, without a doubt, that Tarantino, and his films, has had a huge impact on my love for cinema. Through his films, interviews, and passion he has introduced me to many of my now favorite films and directors.

Here are my top 5 cinematic influences, or the filmmakers who have made me really like watching movies:

1. George Lucas - hate his stuff now, but Star Wars shaped me early childhood more than anything. It was the first live action film I saw in a theater.

3. Peter Jackson - discovering Bad Taste and Dead Alive on VHS in the 1990s was a breath of fresh air.

4. Tarantino - see above

5. Tsui Hark - seeing Once Upon a Time in 1993 changed my life

6. Black Belt Theater - a collection of films and directors that made me love martial arts cinema.

Yeah I'm the same way. I'm not as much of a fanboy as I was in high school but honestly his TV/magazine interviews in the 90s got me interested in certain types of film I might have been less interested in. Namely: French New Wave, 70s New Hollywood type stuff (like Taxi Driver) and cult type films from the 70s like Kung Fu and blaxploitation movies. That's why when people ask me what my favorite film is my snap answer is Pulp Fiction. Because objectively that film shaped a lot of my interests and got me interested in cinema beyond what Hollywood put out that weekend.

Grouchy
07-15-2008, 05:22 PM
Sorry. Reread it, I still do not agree.
Hahahah!

MadMan
07-15-2008, 06:35 PM
Wait.... did Clip just say Reservoir Dogs is QT's most original movie?I think its one of his most original, but that title would probably go to either Jackie Brown or maybe even Death Proof.


I saw the original Inglorious Basterds, by the way. A very fun actioner with lots of casualties and tense situations. From start to finish it's all shootin' and screamin'. I'm guessing the plot of the movie only plays a very small part in Tarantino's remake if it's that long. The original is barely 80 minutes.

Oh, and Fred Williamson is a very cool guy.Having seen Williamson in Black Caesar and Hell Up In Harlem I very much agree with that assessment.

Saya
07-16-2008, 02:05 PM
Brad Pitt was already mentioned a couple of times as a possible lead and it seems that DiCaprio might play a role in this movie as well. Thoughts?


Quentin Tarantino seeks 'Bastards' (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988993.html?categoryid=1 3&cs=1)

Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio rumored for roles

Quentin Tarantino's Weinstein Co. film "Inglorious Bastards," which has already garnered plenty of media coverage, is about to get more interesting.

The producers are searching for a co-financing partner to handle offshore territories for the WWII drama with intersecting storylines. Tarantino and Harvey Weinstein will meet with five studios from Friday through Tuesday.

After the director met Brad Pitt in France on Tuesday, those studios are already salivating over the expectation that Tarantino will land Pitt to play the key role of Aldo Raine. They'll be even keener if Tarantino's plan to meet Leonardo DiCaprio for another lead role goes well Thursday. Tarantino wants DiCaprio to play the role of Hans Landa.

Several studios said the script is vintage Tarantino and they're eager to be in business with him at a reasonable price. DiCaprio and Pitt would be appearing in a Tarantino-helmed project for the first time, though Pitt previously spoke Tarantino-scripted dialogue in a small but memorable stoner turn in the Tony Scott-directed "True Romance."

Pitt, who read "Inglorious Bastards" before studios, seems a strong logistical fit for the project. The film will shoot this fall in Germany and also in France, where Pitt and Angelina Jolie have been residing.

number8
07-16-2008, 02:48 PM
DiCaprio as a Nazi? Hee hee.

Saya
07-16-2008, 07:31 PM
DiCaprio as a Nazi? Hee hee.

Oh wow, I thought he'd be one of the bastards. But him as a villain would be cool too.

number8
07-16-2008, 08:13 PM
His character is the Nazi nicknamed "The Jew Hunter". :lol:

I'd like to see Leo do it.

MacGuffin
07-16-2008, 08:25 PM
I think its one of his most original, but that title would probably go to either Jackie Brown or maybe even Death Proof.

What? No. These are probably his least original. Totally rips off the blaxploitation and grindhouse styles. (I've only seen the Death Proof from Grindhouse, and not the longer version, thankfully.)

Rowland
07-16-2008, 08:28 PM
Really? I don't think Death Proof resembled a "grindhouse style" much at all.

MacGuffin
07-16-2008, 08:36 PM
Really? I don't think Death Proof resembled a "grindhouse style" much at all.

For a movie that seems to flaunt cars, where a majority of the movie takes place inside of a bar or a café, I'd say it is. I haven't seen the movie that it supposedly ripped off, but it sounds like a long shot. I can see the style being taken, however.

number8
07-16-2008, 08:39 PM
Sexy women as main characters, mostly just them chatting about badass shit they do and men, with only two but totally insane stunts?

Yeah, it's grindhouse. It's Rodriguez's CG and wirework-heavy big explosion-fest that didn't ring true as grindhouse to me.

Ezee E
07-16-2008, 09:06 PM
His character is the Nazi nicknamed "The Jew Hunter". :lol:

I'd like to see Leo do it.
The casting I'm most curious about is the girl at the movie theater.

Saya
07-16-2008, 10:42 PM
His character is the Nazi nicknamed "The Jew Hunter". :lol:

I'd like to see Leo do it.

I hope he'll do it too. It would be a interesting career move.

Bosco B Thug
07-17-2008, 01:06 AM
Sexy women as main characters, mostly just them chatting about badass shit they do and men, with only two but totally insane stunts?

Yeah, it's grindhouse. But, to Clipper Ship Captain, is it just this aspect that determines the degree to which the film is unoriginal? What do you mean by "styles"? What exactly is it ripping off and what cannot it claim as its own invention and inspiration? I guess it depends on whether one puts stock into its invention regarding its dramatic elements (which I do, and you don't)... so I'll try to make this the last time I exacerbate this dead horse's beating. :)

MacGuffin
07-17-2008, 01:49 AM
But, to Clipper Ship Captain, is it just this aspect that determines the degree to which the film is unoriginal? What do you mean by "styles"? What exactly is it ripping off and what cannot it claim as its own invention and inspiration? I guess it depends on whether one puts stock into its invention regarding its dramatic elements (which I do, and you don't)... so I'll try to make this the last time I exacerbate this dead horse's beating. :)

Basically, for me, Tarantino's movies lack the imagination that made blaxploitation movies like Coffy or grindhouse movies like Thriller: A Cruel Picture so interesting. They feel like copies of those movies with very little reworking. At least for something like Reservoir Dogs it felt interesting because there were already mafia movies being made every month, and this was something new as far as dialogue goes and Tarantino's stagelike mise en scène.

D_Davis
07-17-2008, 01:51 AM
Sexy women as main characters, mostly just them chatting about badass shit they do and men, with only two but totally insane stunts?

Yeah, it's grindhouse. It's Rodriguez's CG and wirework-heavy big explosion-fest that didn't ring true as grindhouse to me.


Right-O

Sven
07-17-2008, 02:58 AM
You really think Jackie Brown's style resembles Coffy that much? Really? Think about it before you answer.

megladon8
07-17-2008, 03:23 AM
I agree that, on paper, Death Proof is a more grindhouse style film.

But Tarantino's dialogue just doesn't work here, because he continues to be unable to write different character voices. Aside from Mary Elizabeth Winstead's character (whom he wrote as a pretty standard moron) all of the characters sound the same.

The dialogue comes across more like rants than conversations, which is a problem he's always had, but in Pulp Fiction it isn't as apparent because the sequences are almost like a bunch of short films strung together with a connecting plotline.

D_Davis
07-17-2008, 03:31 AM
I've never thought of his dialog as a problem. He writes characters that exist in his own unique universe, one that is a pastiche of all the films and books he loves and has filtered through his mind.

You're either hip to his gig or you ain't, I guess.

megladon8
07-17-2008, 03:33 AM
I've never thought of his dialog as a problem. He writes characters that exist in his own unique universe, one that is a pastiche of all the films and books he loves and has filtered through his mind.

You're either hip to his gig or you ain't, I guess.


Yeah that's fine, and I appreciate what he's doing...I just find, as I said, his lack of character voice is kind of distracting.

Any one of his characters could say any one of the lines, and it would sound the same.

MacGuffin
07-17-2008, 05:57 AM
You really think Jackie Brown's style resembles Coffy that much? Really? Think about it before you answer.

Yeah, I really do. It's the Bobby Womack song. It's the opening credits. It's Pam Grier's line deliveries. Now I'm not going to say that it's straight up blaxploitation (that's not true at all), but it's clearly obvious that if Tarantino never saw Coffy there would be no Jackie Brown or Jackie Brown would be white at least.

Saya
07-17-2008, 12:28 PM
Just finished reading the whole screenplay of Inglorious Basterds and it is awesome. It's a little bit different than I imagined it would be, but still fantastic. DiCaprio as Hans Landa, aka the Jew Hunter, worked surprisingly well for me. I could see Pitt as Aldo too.

Sven
07-17-2008, 01:29 PM
Yeah, I really do. It's the Bobby Womack song. It's the opening credits. It's Pam Grier's line deliveries. Now I'm not going to say that it's straight up blaxploitation (that's not true at all), but it's clearly obvious that if Tarantino never saw Coffy there would be no Jackie Brown or Jackie Brown would be white at least.

He has a spunky black character and he uses a song. "Very little reworking"? Give me a break. It's a sprawling 2+ hour long heist movie that replicates the visual style of Pulp Fiction much more than it does any blaxploitation film that I've seen. In your laudable quest for an objective response, your bias is utterly exposed.

Dukefrukem
07-17-2008, 01:36 PM
I've never thought of his dialog as a problem. He writes characters that exist in his own unique universe, one that is a pastiche of all the films and books he loves and has filtered through his mind.

You're either hip to his gig or you ain't, I guess.

I agree with this. I think the dialog in every one of this films is incredible. Look at the beginning of Death Proof, the diner scene in Reservoir Dogs, the 'Say What Again!' Scene in Pulp Fiction, pretty much every scene in Kill Bill.

Grouchy
07-17-2008, 06:52 PM
I'm assuming that QT sent the script to the websites himself, so I'm going to bash him for it - it's a totally stupid thing to do. He's toying with fanboyism in a pretty shameless way. A true director hides his craft, he doesn't bloat about it.

MacGuffin
07-17-2008, 10:07 PM
He has a spunky black character and he uses a song. "Very little reworking"? Give me a break. It's a sprawling 2+ hour long heist movie that replicates the visual style of Pulp Fiction much more than it does any blaxploitation film that I've seen. In your laudable quest for an objective response, your bias is utterly exposed.

So, I have to start listing things? I don't think you understand that it isn't plot points that irk me, it's style.

Sven
07-17-2008, 10:22 PM
So, I have to start listing things? I don't think you understand that it isn't plot points that irk me, it's style.

And I'm saying, the blaxploitation style isn't heavily co-opted in Jackie Brown. Those movies are cheap and often static, that emphasize the injustice of white dominance. JB is very slick, very mobile, and has more white people than black people, one white guy being JB's salvation. Stylistically, it's a very far cry from the likes of Coffy.

MacGuffin
07-17-2008, 11:59 PM
And I'm saying, the blaxploitation style isn't heavily co-opted in Jackie Brown. Those movies are cheap and often static, that emphasize the injustice of white dominance. JB is very slick, very mobile, and has more white people than black people, one white guy being JB's salvation. Stylistically, it's a very far cry from the likes of Coffy.

Fair enough.

(I still think the influence is there, but what you said about blaxploitation sounds right to me. I never really care for the genre from what I saw.)

Grouchy
07-18-2008, 07:18 PM
Fair enough.

(I still think the influence is there, but what you said about blaxploitation sounds right to me. I never really care for the genre from what I saw.)
Yeah, the influence is obviously there, but like iosos says, it's not mimicking the style like The Good German mimics classic Hollywood. For one thing, it takes place in the '90s, with the references to the '70s mostly being made by characters in the dialogue. It's based on an Elmore Leonard novel where the lead character was white. And, it's not exclusively centered on black characters.

MacGuffin
07-18-2008, 07:44 PM
Yeah, the influence is obviously there, but like iosos says, it's not mimicking the style like The Good German mimics classic Hollywood. For one thing, it takes place in the '90s, with the references to the '70s mostly being made by characters in the dialogue. It's based on an Elmore Leonard novel where the lead character was white. And, it's not exclusively centered on black characters.

Yeah, maybe I was talking out of my ass a little bit just because Tarantino kind of annoys me (I guess there is a bias there that said).

Duncan
07-18-2008, 08:44 PM
I haven't seen Jackie Brown for a while, but I remember it being framed more like a Mike Nichols movie than a blaxploitation film. I mean beyond the obvious moving sidewalk homage.

Morris Schæffer
08-05-2008, 11:36 PM
Corey Feldman to make a QT-propelled comeback?


The first time I saw Reservoir Dogs back in 1992, one scene struck me as peculiar. It's that moment where Tim Roth is practicing his drug speech, and he mentions the fact that he was watching The Lost Boys. It is odd, and sort of jarring. I had to rewind it two or three times to make sure I was hearing him right. The Lost Boys? It seemed like a weird shout out at the time. Especially in an art house crime caper. But now knowing Tarantino like we do, it is a pretty acute observation. Of course Tim Roth would be watching The Lost Boys. Since that time, Quentin has made no qualms about being a longtime fan of The Two Coreys (even naming the Gecko Brothers in From Dusk Till Dawn as an homage to the Frog Brothers). Well, we recently learned from a source close to his latest upcoming project that Quentin Tarantino is, in fact, looking to cast Corey Feldman as one of the Jewish soldiers in his upcoming Word War II epic Inglorious Bastards.

While this is of course still in the rumor stages, it makes perfect sense. Tarantino has in the past alluded to wanting to work with both Feldman and Haim, but that idea never seemed to come to fruition. Tarantino is known for taking certain scaled back actors and giving them a mighty career boost. And it certainly seems like he is looking to do that with Feldman. While the role wouldn't be of leading man status, Feldman would be playing one of the secondary characters in a role that is said to be reminiscent of the work he did in The 'Burbs, another favorite of Tarantino's (directed by Joe Dante).

Feldman certainly seems like the right guy for a role in this film. He recently proved that he can carry a picture on his own with his recent appearance as Edgar Frog in Lost Boys: The Tribe. He's a rough, tough, believable soldier of fortune. And he's Jewish. Both Coreys seem to be on a resurgence of sorts. Feldman's fan base is suddenly seeping into a much younger audience, and Haim just finished shooting a part in Neveldine and Taylor's Crank 2: High Voltage. Hopefully, Feldman's appearance in Inglorious Bastards turns out to be more than just the ramblings of a seemingly obsessed director.

This isn't the first time Corey Feldman has been swept up in a Quentin Tarantino casting rumor. Last year, when interviewing the actor for his show The Two Coreys, we asked him about this, and he stated, "I would love to work with Quentin anytime. I've met Quentin and he is a very nice guy. And I am a great fan of his work. (I would) be honored to have that opportunity. But that opportunity hasn't arisen yet." Feldman even acknowledged Tarantino as a fan of his own work, saying, "He's always said he is. So, we'll see if he puts his money were his mouth is. Hopefully. That would be nice. I would enjoy it."

Let's hope Tarantino makes good on this rumor. I know I want to see Feldman in the film. What do you guys think?

Inglorious Bastards is set to be released sometime in 2010, but we may be seeing it as early as 2009.

DavidSeven
08-06-2008, 12:10 AM
Jackie Brown has little to do with blaxploitation beyond it's title, opening credits, and lead actress. Period.

Ivan Drago
08-06-2008, 04:14 AM
I thought QT was going to use this movie for Sly Stallone's comeback. The comeback of MANY actors whose careers have fizzled, actually. I guess Feldman will be one of em.

But does it HAVE to be TWO movies?

Morris Schæffer
08-06-2008, 09:53 AM
Weird.


It seems that directors Eli Roth and Quentin Tarantino are joining forces again. The two have been teaming up since Quentin presented Hostel to the states, their latest effort having Roth direct the faux horror trailer Thanksgiving and cameo in Death Proof. Now, the director is set to co-star in Quentin's long awaited Inglorious Bastards. The trade reports Roth likely getting the role of Sgt. Donnie Donowitz, a baseball bat-swinging Nazi hunter.

Roth is likely the second person attached in an official capacity for the film with Brad Pitt in talks to play Aldo Raine, leader of a rogue band of Jewish-American soldiers who wreak havoc on the bad guys in Nazi-occupied France.

Leonardo DiCaprio was up for the role of SS Col. Hans Landa but Tarantino nixed the idea, instead preferring to get a German actor for the part.

Production for the Weinstein and Universal film will begin in Europe this fall for a 2009 release.

I'm glad Di Caprio's out though and that he's opting for a German actor. Thomas Kretschmann? Jurgen Prochnow? Uwe Boll?

Raiders
08-06-2008, 12:43 PM
Thomas Kretschmann? Jurgen Prochnow? Uwe Boll?

DiCaprio would have been better than all three of them combined. Stunt casting or not, that would have been glorious.

Qrazy
08-06-2008, 02:14 PM
Bruno Ganz

ledfloyd
08-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Bruno Ganz
that was my thought.

Grouchy
08-07-2008, 04:59 AM
Bruno Ganz
Yeah. Ganz as a villain is usually awesome.

Watashi
08-08-2008, 07:32 AM
Well, Brad Pitt is officially on board right now.

Nastassja Kinski and Simon Pegg are rumored to be attached as well.

DavidSeven
08-08-2008, 08:02 AM
Well, Brad Pitt is officially on board right now.

Nastassja Kinski and Simon Pegg are rumored to be attached as well.

The Office's B.J. Novak will also be involved it seems... (http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSN0730457420080807)

Watashi
08-14-2008, 11:36 PM
This cast is getting stranger and stranger.


Mike Myers Joins Tarantino's Bastards

Source: The Quentin Tarantino Archives
August 14, 2008



The Quentin Tarantino Archives has learned that Mike Myers ("Austin Powers" films, The Love Guru) will play a small role in Tarantino's WWII drama Inglorious Bastards.

The comedian/actor is joining a cast that so far includes Brad Pitt, Nastassja Kinski, Simon Pegg, David Krumholtz, B.J. Novak and Eli Roth.

The film begins production on October 13 in Germany. Tarantino, who wrote the script, is aiming to complete the film and have it ready for next year's Cannes Film Festival.

In the film, a band of U.S. soldiers facing death by firing squad for their misdeeds are given a chance to redeem themselves by heading into the perilous no-man's lands of Nazi-occupied France on a suicide mission for the Allies.

Sycophant
08-14-2008, 11:38 PM
Dude, David Krumholtz!

Saya
08-15-2008, 09:13 AM
Cool cast so far. Mike Myers is supposedly playing one of the English lieutenants that comes up with the plan for the bastards.

The plan to bomb the cinema with all the nazis inside.

I'm also very interested who Tarantino will cast as the Bear Jew and Landa. Marion Cotillard or Audrey Tautou would be awesome as Shoshanna as well.

Morris Schæffer
08-15-2008, 09:44 AM
I suppose it makes sense for Fat Bastard to be cast in this?

number8
08-15-2008, 07:05 PM
I'm also very interested who Tarantino will cast as the Bear Jew...

That's Eli Roth's character.

Grouchy
08-15-2008, 08:46 PM
So far, this looks more like a remake of The Dirty Dozen than Inglorious Bastards, at least according to those plot spoilers.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

number8
08-15-2008, 08:49 PM
So far, this looks more like a remake of The Dirty Dozen than Inglorious Bastards, at least according to those plot spoilers.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I don't think QT's version sound like either film.

Grouchy
08-15-2008, 08:52 PM
I don't think QT's version sound like either film.
"In the film, a band of U.S. soldiers facing death by firing squad for their misdeeds are given a chance to redeem themselves by heading into the perilous no-man's lands of Nazi-occupied France on a suicide mission for the Allies".

That's exactly the set-up for The Dirty Dozen, except substitute firing squad for hanging, and Nazi-occupied France for Germany.

number8
08-15-2008, 08:58 PM
I think that's an old synopsis though. I dunno, the premise has been changed so many times that it's hard to keep track of, but the recent script reviews seem to suggest that group are all recruited Jews. They might still be prisoners, who knows.

Qrazy
08-15-2008, 09:00 PM
"In the film, a band of U.S. soldiers facing death by firing squad for their misdeeds are given a chance to redeem themselves by heading into the perilous no-man's lands of Nazi-occupied France on a suicide mission for the Allies".

That's exactly the set-up for The Dirty Dozen, except substitute firing squad for hanging, and Nazi-occupied France for Germany.

It was France in the original film as well... or rather Brittany, a province of France.

Grouchy
08-15-2008, 09:04 PM
I think that's an old synopsis though. I dunno, the premise has been changed so many times that it's hard to keep track of, but the recent script reviews seem to suggest that group are all recruited Jews. They might still be prisoners, who knows.
Ah, ok. That might be a little different then. I don't want to know too much about this movie. I don't like the fact that the script was apparently leaked by QT himself to some websites. What's the point of that?


It was France in the original film as well... or rather Brittany, a province of France.
Correct you are.

Saya
08-15-2008, 10:03 PM
That's Eli Roth's character.

Really? I thought he was playing Donny at first, the baseball bat guy. But if Roth is playing the Bear Jew, I guess BJ Novak is playing Donny.

I'm not complaining though, I believe the Bear Jew had only like 5 lines in the whole movie. :)

number8
08-15-2008, 11:23 PM
Really? I thought he was playing Donny at first, the baseball bat guy. But if Roth is playing the Bear Jew, I guess BJ Novak is playing Donny.

I'm not complaining though, I believe the Bear Jew had only like 5 lines in the whole movie. :)

Um, same character. Donny is nicknamed The Bear Jew.

Ezee E
08-15-2008, 11:27 PM
Freaks & Geeks Sam Wasse is in.

No Krumholtz.

Watashi
08-15-2008, 11:31 PM
Freaks & Geeks Sam Wasse is in.

No Krumholtz.
Don't you mean Samm Levine?

Ezee E
08-15-2008, 11:36 PM
Don't you mean Samm Levine?
Same thing.

Saya
08-16-2008, 07:54 AM
Um, same character. Donny is nicknamed The Bear Jew.

Ah yeah you're right. Somehow I thought Stiglitz was the Bear Jew.

Raiders
08-16-2008, 03:54 PM
No Krumholtz.

Bah.

ledfloyd
08-16-2008, 06:20 PM
i just read the first two chapters of the script. i like it. good setup. not sure how likable the bastards are as protagonists. but i'm guessing that's where shosanna comes in.

number8
08-16-2008, 08:51 PM
Simon Pegg's out.

ledfloyd
08-17-2008, 07:45 PM
just finished the script. glad that myers' role basically amounts to a cameo.

Saya
08-30-2008, 04:54 PM
Christopher Waltz and Diane Kruger join Inglorious Bastards (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117991354.html?categoryid=1 3&cs=1)


http://i35.tinypic.com/zvv8ua.jpg


"Inglorious Bastards" writer-director Quentin Tarantino has set thesps Diane Kruger, Christoph Waltz and Paul Rust in the Weinstein Co./Universal drama.
Pic begins production Oct. 13 in Germany.

The trio join Brad Pitt, Eli Roth, Mike Myers, Michael Fassbender, B.J. Novak and Samm Levine.

Kruger ("National Treasure") plays German actress Bridget Von Hammersmark, who figures prominently in a plot to sabotage the Nazis. It is a role for which Nastassja Kinski was first mentioned.

Waltz, who is best known in Germany for his television work, has landed the role of Col. Hans Landa, who is the primary antagonist in the drama.

Amnesiac
09-22-2008, 10:52 PM
http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp316/mca213/bastardspostersm.jpg

The alleged teaser poster. Could be fake. Source (http://popcornjunkies.com/2008/09/07/inglorious-bastards-teaser-poster/).

Watashi
09-23-2008, 12:18 AM
It's 100% fake.

Ezee E
09-23-2008, 12:24 AM
Movie studios should just start letting random people create their posters. Sometimes they end up doing a better job in the end. I like that one a lot.

Morris Schæffer
09-23-2008, 10:40 AM
Yeah, it's nice.

Saya
09-25-2008, 09:37 AM
Tarantino has found his Inglorious projectionist. French actor Jackie Ido will play Marcel.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2rqlykp.jpg

And French actress Léa Seydoux has reportedly signed up for the project as the young Shoshanna.

http://i36.tinypic.com/11hwepk.jpg

And according to Yahoo France old Shoshanna is supposedly played by Melanie Laurent.

http://i37.tinypic.com/534uav.jpg

Saya
09-30-2008, 10:40 AM
http://i33.tinypic.com/1589gtk.jpg

The farmhouse for the opening scene is done. Filming will start real soon.

http://i34.tinypic.com/2qv73fp.jpg

Ivan Drago
09-30-2008, 03:35 PM
It still pisses me off that this is 2 movies. Seriously, he made Kill Bill into 2 movies, Death Proof was a part of a 2-movie double feature, and now this. Hell, if QT ever does a Friday the 13th movie like he has said THAT'LL probably be 2 movies.

As much as I love QT and his work, he really needs to pull his head out of his ass.

Saya
09-30-2008, 03:52 PM
It still pisses me off that this is 2 movies. Seriously, he made Kill Bill into 2 movies, Death Proof was a part of a 2-movie double feature, and now this. Hell, if QT ever does a Friday the 13th movie like he has said THAT'LL probably be 2 movies.

As much as I love QT and his work, he really needs to pull his head out of his ass.

Wait, what? This is just one movie as far as I know.

Morris Schæffer
09-30-2008, 03:58 PM
Provided part I ends with a huge cliffhanger, I'm absolutely okay with two movies. I like having things to look forward to.

I was pissed about Death Proof and Planet Terror being released separately with the fake trailers mostly lacking.

Amnesiac
09-30-2008, 04:15 PM
Wait, what? This is just one movie as far as I know.

I wasn't aware that it was going to be split into two movies, either.

Ivan Drago
09-30-2008, 07:34 PM
Wait, what? This is just one movie as far as I know.


It's going to be two movies, like Kill Bill. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37149)

Pull your head out of your ass, Quentin.

Of course it is AintItCoolNews and Harry Knowles.

number8
09-30-2008, 09:32 PM
It'll probably be one movie if they can trim it down enough. Maybe Grindhouse got QT spooked about 3+ hour movies, since that was his theory for why it bombed.

Ezee E
10-01-2008, 01:46 AM
Regardless, I'm pumped. Moreso for this than I was for Kill Bill.

I'm still a little wary about that casting though.

MadMan
10-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Provided part I ends with a huge cliffhanger, I'm absolutely okay with two movies. I like having things to look forward to.

I was pissed about Death Proof and Planet Terror being released separately with the fake trailers mostly lacking.I refuse to buy either Death Proof or Planet Terror. Its bullshit and quite stupid that they were both released separately, and without the fake trailers. That's one release that I'm glad to have caught in theaters.

The cast for "Bastards" is shaping up to be fairly solid. And honestly I prefer movies to be only 2 hours, tops. Better to keep the audience wanting more than to drag everything out.

number8
10-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Hooray for Starz HD OnDemand, showing Grindhouse in its entirety.

I just record that shit.

Morris Schæffer
10-01-2008, 09:43 PM
I refuse to buy either Death Proof or Planet Terror. Its bullshit and quite stupid that they were both released separately, and without the fake trailers. That's one release that I'm glad to have caught in theaters.

I know the feeling, but I caved eventually. Both special editions were rather cheap.

I am downloading a 1.37 gig Grindhouse torrent however that is supposed to include all the fake trailers.

Ivan Drago
10-02-2008, 12:27 AM
Hooray for Starz HD OnDemand, showing Grindhouse in its entirety.

I just record that shit.

Yeah and it's probably in fullscreen right? Plus wasn't that a one-time thing?

MadMan
10-02-2008, 12:49 AM
I know the feeling, but I caved eventually. Both special editions were rather cheap.

I am downloading a 1.37 gig Grindhouse torrent however that is supposed to include all the fake trailers.I'll admit that I was tempted, too, as they were only $10-15 a piece if I recall right.

The fake trailers are actually better than both movies. I would go see any if they were made into actual movies. Especially "Machete" and "Thanksgiving."

Ivan Drago
10-02-2008, 02:37 AM
I'll admit that I was tempted, too, as they were only $10-15 a piece if I recall right.

The fake trailers are actually better than both movies. I would go see any if they were made into actual movies. Especially "Machete" and "Thanksgiving."

I don't know about Thanksgiving. The trailer itself made fun of those crappy holiday horror movies in the 80s. A movie of it would be becoming what it's making fun of.

But as far as the Grindhouse DVD treatment goes, I am pissed about it as well. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do something after Machete gets released on DVD. But if not at least the fake trailers are all over YouTube.

Saya
10-02-2008, 07:29 AM
The Japanese Grindhouse special edition has all versions of the movies plus the trailers and everything. I bought it a couple months ago from Amazon.co.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp/グラインドハウス-コンプリートBOX-【初回限定生産】-クエンティン・タランティーノ/dp/B0011DTTC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1222932135&sr=8-1) and it's pretty sweet. The delivery was really fast by the way. I had it within a week. If you really want the whole Grindhouse experience and the separate movies, maybe you should look into it.

Ivan Drago
10-02-2008, 01:05 PM
The Japanese Grindhouse special edition has all versions of the movies plus the trailers and everything. I bought it a couple months ago from Amazon.co.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp/グラインドハウス-コンプリートBOX-【初回限定生産】-クエンティン・タランティーノ/dp/B0011DTTC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1222932135&sr=8-1) and it's pretty sweet. The delivery was really fast by the way. I had it within a week. If you really want the whole Grindhouse experience and the separate movies, maybe you should look into it.

Uhhh...which button is "Add to Cart"??? I can't read the site.

And besides aren't the titles in Japanese too? Like when "Grindhouse" scrolls from right to left in the beginning, wouldn't that be in Japanese?

number8
10-02-2008, 03:39 PM
Yeah and it's probably in fullscreen right? Plus wasn't that a one-time thing?

No, it's in HD. And it's OnDemand.

Grouchy
10-02-2008, 03:57 PM
Uhhh...which button is "Add to Cart"??? I can't read the site.

And besides aren't the titles in Japanese too? Like when "Grindhouse" scrolls from right to left in the beginning, wouldn't that be in Japanese?
Uh, the menus are most likely in Japanese, but the titles in the actual movie? Why would they translate that?

Saya
10-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Uhhh...which button is "Add to Cart"??? I can't read the site.

And besides aren't the titles in Japanese too? Like when "Grindhouse" scrolls from right to left in the beginning, wouldn't that be in Japanese?

No no, just some of the DVD menus are in Japanese, but that's not really a problem. The opening titles like the Grindhouse thing you mentioned are all in English with optional Japanese subtitles .

The "Add to Shopping cart" option is on the right side of the screen. There's a little shopping cart icon next to it. Or just go to the main site, http://www.amazon.co.jp/ and click on "english" in the top right corner. Just look for Grindhouse and you'll find it.

Grouchy
10-02-2008, 04:19 PM
Also, tops of the main page, right, it has an English option.

Amnesiac
10-02-2008, 07:42 PM
The Japanese Grindhouse special edition has all versions of the movies plus the trailers and everything. I bought it a couple months ago from Amazon.co.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp/グラインドハウス-コンプリートBOX-【初回限定生産】-クエンティン・タランティーノ/dp/B0011DTTC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1222932135&sr=8-1) and it's pretty sweet. The delivery was really fast by the way. I had it within a week. If you really want the whole Grindhouse experience and the separate movies, maybe you should look into it.

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51QKam7vQSL._SS400_.jpg

Nice packaging.

Still, can't say I regret buying the steel-book edition of Death Proof. I actually prefer to see it apart from Grindhouse's 'double-bill' context. That format worked for the theatrical release, and it was interesting, but I left liking one film more than the other ... I didn't really care all that much for Planet Terror.

Watashi
10-17-2008, 08:57 PM
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/pittbasterdstop.jpg

It's.... Brad Pitt.

Also, the title is now Inglourious Basterds. So Mods, please edit.

Saya
10-17-2008, 09:46 PM
Bigger pic:

http://www.tarantino.info/wiki/images/Bradpittbasterd_big.jpg

This movie will kick ass.

MacGuffin
10-17-2008, 09:52 PM
Bigger pic:

This movie will kick ass.

Might want to spoiler tag that for size purposes, and is it just me, or does that mustache kinda make him look like Kenneth Anger?

Saya
10-17-2008, 09:58 PM
Might want to spoiler tag that for size purposes, and is it just me, or does that mustache kinda make him look like Kenneth Anger?

Yeah it was kinda stretching the page. I just fixed it.

number8
10-18-2008, 12:39 AM
I love bad spelling. So hip.

Ivan Drago
10-18-2008, 06:59 PM
I love bad spelling. So hip.

I know it's supposed to be misspelled...but why?

QT is hard to figure out nowadays.

number8
10-18-2008, 07:46 PM
I know it's supposed to be misspelled...but why?

QT is hard to figure out nowadays.

My theory is that he thought it was the correct spelling when he leaked the script to online sites, and when people commented on the misspelling, he decided to stick with it cause it's, y'know, so more B-movie-ish!

Ezee E
10-18-2008, 08:19 PM
My theory is that he thought it was the correct spelling when he leaked the script to online sites, and when people commented on the misspelling, he decided to stick with it cause it's, y'know, so more B-movie-ish!
Hopefully it isn't suppose to be a "B-Movie"

number8
10-18-2008, 08:28 PM
Hopefully it isn't suppose to be a "B-Movie"

Of course it is. It's about a small band of savage Jews dropping in incognito to scalp some Nazis, and he's going to score it with anachronistic pop songs. It's not going to be a war epic.

Ezee E
10-18-2008, 09:21 PM
Of course it is. It's about a small band of savage Jews dropping in incognito to scalp some Nazis, and he's going to score it with anachronistic pop songs. It's not going to be a war epic.
Hmm... Excitement going, going, nearly gone.

Kurosawa Fan
10-18-2008, 09:33 PM
I'm going to chime in and say that the incorrect spelling is just another example of why I can't stand QT. The fact that he went with incorrect spelling doesn't surprise me in the least.

eternity
10-18-2008, 09:37 PM
I'm going to chime in and say that the incorrect spelling is just another example of why I can't stand QT. The fact that he went with incorrect spelling doesn't surprise me in the least.
Meh, it's not as bad as The Pursuit of Happyness.

number8
10-18-2008, 09:40 PM
Meh, it's not as bad as The Pursuit of Happyness.

Bwuh? It's worse. That movie at least has a justification for the title.

Ezee E
10-18-2008, 09:44 PM
Bwuh? It's worse. That movie at least has a justification for the title.
Yeah. Basterds is just laziness.

It's much, much worse than the misspelling of the Smith movie.

Kurosawa Fan
10-18-2008, 09:46 PM
Meh, it's not as bad as The Pursuit of Happyness.

What they said above me. This is much worse. It's senseless.

Spinal
10-18-2008, 09:58 PM
Count me as another who finds the misspelling an annoyingly forced attempt at 'cool'.

Watashi
10-19-2008, 12:35 AM
I don't really care how the film is spelled.

All I know is that a new QT WWII film is coming out next year. Fuck yes.

eternity
10-19-2008, 12:51 AM
What they said above me. This is much worse. It's senseless.

He might work it into the plot somehow...

Kurosawa Fan
10-19-2008, 12:53 AM
He might work it into the plot somehow...

You'll have to let me know.

eternity
10-19-2008, 01:07 AM
You'll have to let me know.

I'm just being blindly optimistic that this isn't COMPLETELY shameless.

Ezee E
10-19-2008, 01:38 AM
I don't really care how the film is spelled.

All I know is that a new QT WWII film is coming out next year. Fuck yes.
I was that way.

Then this strange casting occurs.
Then "basterds"
And now what Ary said.

All news that makes me think less and less of it.

Watashi
10-19-2008, 01:44 AM
I was that way.

Then this strange casting occurs.
Then "basterds"
And now what Ary said.

All news that makes me think less and less of it.
All three of those make me want to see the movie more.

Amnesiac
10-19-2008, 02:23 AM
Maybe the soldiers in the film are portrayed as being horribly illiterate...

Kurosawa Fan
10-19-2008, 03:10 AM
I'm just being blindly optimistic that this isn't COMPLETELY shameless.

I was just implying that I won't be seeing it, since I haven't really enjoyed a QT film since Jackie Brown. And this doesn't seem like a return to that form.

number8
10-19-2008, 03:12 AM
I was just implying that I won't be seeing it, since I haven't really enjoyed a QT film since Jackie Brown. And this doesn't seem like a return to that form.

I'm not gonna lie, if QT decides to adapt another crime novel (Leonard or no), I'd be in hog heaven.

Kurosawa Fan
10-19-2008, 03:15 AM
I'm not gonna lie, if QT decides to adapt another crime novel (Leonard or no), I'd be in hog heaven.

I probably would too, provided he didn't present said film with sections missing or intentional scratches on the print, or make it resemble so strongly one or two previously made films that we all have to argue "ripoff" or "homage" again. I'd just like him to make a film that is his own creation that isn't purposefully bad in that oh so ironic way.

Ivan Drago
10-19-2008, 03:20 AM
There's something I'm trying to figure out about QT - everyone says he steals ideas from other filmmakers. My question is, if he does that, why do people call HIM original, while the people he steals from don't get squat? As much as I love the guy, I hate to see him be unoriginal.

Pop Trash
10-19-2008, 03:45 AM
I don't really care how the film is spelled.

All I know is that a new QT WWII film is coming out next year. Fuck yes.
This.

Although a small part of me wishes Tarantino would "mature" and go more in the direction that he seemed to be heading with Jackie Brown and stop trying to be so badass. Regardless, he's by far one of my favorite filmmakers.

ledfloyd
10-19-2008, 04:18 AM
Of course it is. It's about a small band of savage Jews dropping in incognito to scalp some Nazis, and he's going to score it with anachronistic pop songs. It's not going to be a war epic.
based on the script i don't entirely agree with this. it does have a b-movie spirit. but the only references in the script to music weren't anachronistic, like nazi music being played by an string group or something if i remember right. also alot of the movie is in french and german. and the story of the main character is quite effective.

i'd say it's much more in the tone of something like the good the bad and the ugly than a generic b-movie. not that i'm suggesting it will be anywhere near as good as leone's film.

Ivan Drago
10-19-2008, 05:14 AM
based on the script i don't entirely agree with this. it does have a b-movie spirit. but the only references in the script to music weren't anachronistic, like nazi music being played by an string group or something if i remember right. also alot of the movie is in french and german. and the story of the main character is quite effective.

i'd say it's much more in the tone of something like the good the bad and the ugly than a generic b-movie. not that i'm suggesting it will be anywhere near as good as leone's film.

Oooooh. Sounds cool.

Where'd you read the script?

eternity
10-19-2008, 06:50 AM
Oooooh. Sounds cool.

Where'd you read the script?

http://www.neoavant.com/files/inglorious.pdf

Ezee E
10-19-2008, 11:08 AM
http://www.neoavant.com/files/inglorious.pdf
You're worse than 8.

D_Davis
10-20-2008, 12:00 AM
Although a small part of me wishes Tarantino would "mature" and go more in the direction that he seemed to be heading with Jackie Brown and stop trying to be so badass. Regardless, he's by far one of my favorite filmmakers.

I agree.

I like crazy Kill Bill QT, but I would love to see something more like JB from him again. Something a bit quieter, maybe something smaller, and shorter. I'd love to see him do something like his version of Twilight Samurai, or When the Last Blade is Drawn.

Bosco B Thug
10-20-2008, 12:21 AM
There's something I'm trying to figure out about QT - everyone says he steals ideas from other filmmakers. My question is, if he does that, why do people call HIM original, while the people he steals from don't get squat? As much as I love the guy, I hate to see him be unoriginal. He is original. Outside of the Kill Bill films, I can't think of anything that can be called "stolen."

It's just his tendency for homage, historicity (in aesthetic), and hagiography (for genre archetypes) tend to sink and defang his pictures of any sort of critical faculty and stylistic autonomy...

... except for in Death Proof, which no one has yet to convince me how exactly it's a "rip-off" of anything, outside of aesthetic throwbacking, which is present near the opening and near the ending and that's pretty much it. Every other case of heightened aesthetic in the film is, yes, a bit post-modern and retro, but nonetheless original and thoughtful conceptions of artistic design. As for it trying to be bad in an ironic way, a claim can be made for Planet Terror (and in a good way, Psycho, in which Marion Crane and the audience hear Norman and Mother yelling at each other from a mile away has bugged me ever since reading about it), but I can recall no purposeful lapses in logic in the film. The "over-exaggerated" plot and characters is probably the understandable main criticism for "trying to be bad," but it is specious when in regards to the characters and reductive when concerned about the story.

Not to beat anything dead, of course.

a small part of me wishes Tarantino would "mature" and go more in the direction that he seemed to be heading with Jackie Brown and stop trying to be so badass. I guess this I can't argue against, though... It's one of the main reasons I'm kind of doubtful seeing Tarantino take up the action war movie, with all its prospects for posturing. I am expecting something really meaningful from this, nevertheless, considering the considerations being made toward the released script and the fact that if Tarantino didn't make the KILL BILL movies, I'd be saying he's just getting better and better.

number8
10-20-2008, 01:15 AM
He is original. Outside of the Kill Bill films, I can't think of anything that can be called "stolen."

Seriously? You would say that about Kill Bill and not Reservoir Dogs?

Tarantino is not a thief, but he is... Well, I guess I'd call it an "expander." What he does--what he's ALWAYS done--is take an existing work and then write an alternate take on it with his own dialogue and sensibilities. Reservoir Dogs is nearly verbatim of the last 20 minutes of City on Fire, but he made the movie his own with his signature banter, expanding that 20 minutes into 90. Same with Pulp Fiction, which is that he read Roger Avary's script and decided to take what he likes and rewrite them into a new movie. Same with Jackie Brown, Kill Bill and Death Proof. And here he's doing the same thing again with Basterds, no?

He's calle an original for his aesthetics, not his stories. The way he does his movies--the style, the swagger, the influences--it's a mish-mash of various stuff that blends into something that can't be called other than Tarantino-esque. Does it matter that it's a patchwork? The result is that he's an extremely influential filmmaker and few can do what he does or thought to do what he does. That makes him an original.

D_Davis
10-20-2008, 03:11 AM
He riffs on stuff. I've always likened QT to a multimedia deejay. He mixes, cuts, loops, and samples all the films and things he likes into something that is uniquely his while at the same time paying tribute to the originals.

DJ Shadow steals stuff too, but he makes his own music with the stuff he samples. And like QT, there is a rhyme and reasons why certain samples are picked over others, a reason that exists beyond simple personal opinion. Samples are chosen for mood, atmosphere, melody, rhythm and harmony.

And also, like a great deejay, knowledge of the original is not important for full enjoyment, however such knowledge can greatly add a little something extra to the experience. Like well known jazz riffs that great jazz musicians interpolate and use during a live performance. While a general audience can enjoy the music for being well performed, a seasoned jazz fan will pick up on the various phrases being used.

Amnesiac
10-20-2008, 03:37 AM
For curiosity's sake, I would love to see someone churn out a comprehensive analysis of Tarantino's oeuvre, cataloguing every trope, cliche, generic convention, etc. that he has borrowed and used for his own purposes...

Especially since I'm hearing more and more about Tarantino's 'mag-pie' (whoever brought that word up a few weeks ago, I guess it has stuck) tendencies as of late.

transmogrifier
10-20-2008, 03:59 AM
That was me.

Jackie Brown is still his worst film.

Bosco B Thug
10-20-2008, 06:25 AM
Seriously? You would say that about Kill Bill and not Reservoir Dogs?

Tarantino is not a thief, but he is... Well, I guess I'd call it an "expander." What he does--what he's ALWAYS done--is take an existing work and then write an alternate take on it with his own dialogue and sensibilities. Reservoir Dogs is nearly verbatim of the last 20 minutes of City on Fire, but he made the movie his own with his signature banter, expanding that 20 minutes into 90. Same with Pulp Fiction, which is that he read Roger Avary's script and decided to take what he likes and rewrite them into a new movie. Same with Jackie Brown, Kill Bill and Death Proof. And here he's doing the same thing again with Basterds, no?

He's calle an original for his aesthetics, not his stories. The way he does his movies--the style, the swagger, the influences--it's a mish-mash of various stuff that blends into something that can't be called other than Tarantino-esque. Does it matter that it's a patchwork? The result is that he's an extremely influential filmmaker and few can do what he does or thought to do what he does. That makes him an original. Well, I wasn't aware of the "remake-ish" origins of Reservoir Dogs, but the argument you've made means we're on the same side of the fence, right? If you suppress some giggles, "expander" is definitely a fine descriptive word to acknowledge the thematic substance Tarantino works to imbed in Death Proof.

The film may wear its influences on its sleeve, but I don't think its too constructive for admirers of the film to accept the claim the film is a "patchwork"... in ways it is, of course - primarily its "Grindhouse" tone and aesthetic - but it has a negative connotation and I can't really see what isn't totally original or distinguished about the film's story, its strikingly recondite thematic constructions, and the delicacy of Tarantino's directing.

It must be partly, and understandably, the genre and its co-dependence on exploitative thrills. Todd Haynes could be called a "patchwork" filmmaker, but his films are appreciated for the extent of their allegory because they aren't trying to be "bad-assy" and cool. Which, again, I understand. I see how one can see the film as feminism gone schlocky. The change in rhetoric it makes to conclude the film is definitely over-stated. Some people find the dialogue meaningless and posturing. I don't, and yeah... that's a hard one to reconcile...

Annyyyway, I'm fine with people not liking Death Proof. Really! :P But the film being a "rip-off" that "tries to be bad" (sorry, Kurosawa_Fan...)? I mean, the film is structured like a Weerasathakul film practically! Tarantino is a pretentious geek. :pritch:

Saya
10-20-2008, 06:49 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/fzc30i.jpg

First look at Til Schweiger in Quentin Tarantino’s Inglourious Basterds. In the film Schweiger plays a bloodthirsty maniac named Hugo Stiglitz, an ex-German-soldier, who is recruited to join Lt Aldo Raine’s (Brad Pitt) squad of Nazi-killing Jews.

Sven
10-20-2008, 06:57 PM
This new culture of people knowing every single thing about a movie as it is being produced is very fascinating. I wonder how that's going to evolve further.

D_Davis
10-20-2008, 07:01 PM
This new culture of people knowing every single thing about a movie as it is being produced is very fascinating. I wonder how that's going to evolve further.

Looks like the film industry is taking a cue from the video game industry on this one. Announce something years in advance, and then keep a constant trickle of official and "leaked" information rolling out to generate buzz and interest.

Sven
10-20-2008, 07:36 PM
Looks like the film industry is taking a cue from the video game industry on this one. Announce something years in advance, and then keep a constant trickle of official and "leaked" information rolling out to generate buzz and interest.

It's much more troubling with a movie, though, I think, because at least with a game, the experience is created by the player. You can do or not do whatever you want. With a movie, the crafting is hermetic. Now, the fanbase has read the script and I'm sure there are or is going to be a production blog of some kind, pictures are released, people can imagine what it's going to be like, but ultimately, what Tarantino delivers is it, no more. Very, very strange.

megladon8
10-20-2008, 07:41 PM
D, I really liked your write-up likening him to a DJ.

That's a really interesting way of looking at his work. In fact, it's made me plan to re-watch some of his stuff with that in mind.

D_Davis
10-20-2008, 07:46 PM
D, I really liked your write-up likening him to a DJ.

That's a really interesting way of looking at his work. In fact, it's made me plan to re-watch some of his stuff with that in mind.

Thanks - but I am not the first to use that analogy.

I think it is a pretty common argument from QT's supporters, especially used when his detractors accuse him of stealing stuff.

Even the way he puts together the soundtracks for his films is akin to a deejay assembling a new mix tape.

megladon8
10-20-2008, 07:54 PM
Well, it's the first time I've ever read that take on his work, so you're getting the credit whether you like it or not!

Ezee E
10-20-2008, 09:35 PM
It's much more troubling with a movie, though, I think, because at least with a game, the experience is created by the player. You can do or not do whatever you want. With a movie, the crafting is hermetic. Now, the fanbase has read the script and I'm sure there are or is going to be a production blog of some kind, pictures are released, people can imagine what it's going to be like, but ultimately, what Tarantino delivers is it, no more. Very, very strange.
I was thinking the same thing about that as the photos posted are pretty pointless except to just get on sites to keep it in our minds.

As long as twists and plotlines aren't completely revealed, I won't mind. The Dark Knight was great at its promotion as I did know the villains, but knew nothing beyond that, yet, it seemed like something was happening each week.

Amnesiac
10-20-2008, 09:40 PM
It's much more troubling with a movie, though, I think, because at least with a game, the experience is created by the player. You can do or not do whatever you want. With a movie, the crafting is hermetic. Now, the fanbase has read the script and I'm sure there are or is going to be a production blog of some kind, pictures are released, people can imagine what it's going to be like, but ultimately, what Tarantino delivers is it, no more. Very, very strange.

Yeah, it is somewhat interesting. Long past are the days where all we had to rely on was a trailer. After the proliferation of interview snippets, we've now got an influx of publicity stills, early reviews and leaked scripts. More ammo to fuel the spectator's expectations...which is either bad or good, depending on the way you look at it. People are going to have all these reasons to conceive of a particular kind of movie in their head, and yeah, I guess Tarantino could still pull the rug from underneath their feet despite all that...

Personally, I've never been one to read a script before watching a movie. Still, I can see the didactic benefit in doing that, especially if you're interested in screen-writing. I guess I just want that element of surprise to remain. While, admittedly, the script-to-screen transition still leaves lots of room for surprises, knowing the parameters of the narrative and the dialogue would likely still take something away from the experience.

Grouchy
10-21-2008, 01:55 AM
Seriously? You would say that about Kill Bill and not Reservoir Dogs?

Tarantino is not a thief, but he is... Well, I guess I'd call it an "expander." What he does--what he's ALWAYS done--is take an existing work and then write an alternate take on it with his own dialogue and sensibilities. Reservoir Dogs is nearly verbatim of the last 20 minutes of City on Fire, but he made the movie his own with his signature banter, expanding that 20 minutes into 90. Same with Pulp Fiction, which is that he read Roger Avary's script and decided to take what he likes and rewrite them into a new movie. Same with Jackie Brown, Kill Bill and Death Proof. And here he's doing the same thing again with Basterds, no?

He's calle an original for his aesthetics, not his stories. The way he does his movies--the style, the swagger, the influences--it's a mish-mash of various stuff that blends into something that can't be called other than Tarantino-esque. Does it matter that it's a patchwork? The result is that he's an extremely influential filmmaker and few can do what he does or thought to do what he does. That makes him an original.
This, while not necessarily being a "defense" of Tarantino, it's the best way to describe what he does. He's obviously lifting, and he would be the first to ackowledge it. But he's also bringing his own interests into the material.

I can think of a lot more "original" American directors - Alex Cox, Jim Jarmusch or Stuart Gordon also rely on pop culture, but they don't grab entire scripts and re-write them in their own way. I still don't think that necessarily means they're better filmmakers. Although, to me, they are.

And yeah, this trend of people knowing everything about the movie in advance - I don't like it. It's different than the viral marketing of stuff like Dark Knight or even Cloverfield, which was built to tease. With Inglorious Basterds, I think we're being let into just a tiny bit more information than I needed.

Sven
10-21-2008, 04:51 AM
Personally, I've never been one to read a script before watching a movie. Still, I can see the didactic benefit in doing that, especially if you're interested in screen-writing. I guess I just want that element of surprise to remaie. While, admittedly, the script-to-screen transition still leaves lots of room for surprises, knowing the parameters of the narrative and the dialogue would likely still take something away from the experience.

I read The Big Lebowski script before the film came out and I think it was an important step in the development of my filmy sensibilities. To relate how would necessitate a monstrous essay, but in short, seeing it move from concept to reality was a total perspective shock (and considering it was the massive wit of the Coens doing the executing, it was that much more impressive).

But I'm largely with you in my preference to wait for the film. I can see the appeal and the truth in the practice, but I'm much more visual than verbal and admire a film more than a screenplay.

ledfloyd
10-21-2008, 09:43 AM
Personally, I've never been one to read a script before watching a movie. Still, I can see the didactic benefit in doing that, especially if you're interested in screen-writing. I guess I just want that element of surprise to remaie. While, admittedly, the script-to-screen transition still leaves lots of room for surprises, knowing the parameters of the narrative and the dialogue would likely still take something away from the experience.
it was available so i couldn't pass it up. i read it the day it leaked and then deleted it. i'm hoping i forget alot of the intracacies of the plot before i see it. i don't really remember any of the dialogue and it's only been a month or two.

Morris Schæffer
10-31-2008, 11:55 AM
Samuel L. Jackson (him again!) and Maggie Cheung have joined the cast.

Boner M
11-01-2008, 12:22 AM
Samuel L. Jackson (him again!) and Maggie Cheung have joined the cast.
Bah! / Woo-hoo!

Kurious Jorge v3.1
11-01-2008, 02:31 AM
I can think of a lot more "original" American directors - Alex Cox, Jim Jarmusch or Stuart Gordon also rely on pop culture, but they don't grab entire scripts and re-write them in their own way. I still don't think that necessarily means they're better filmmakers. Although, to me, they are.

Alex Cox is British, foo (although he has made a few American films.)

Grouchy
11-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Alex Cox is British, foo (although he has made a few American films.)
I stand corrected.

megladon8
11-03-2008, 09:48 PM
So Samuel L. Jackson's in this now.

Could anything be more predictable?

Ezee E
11-03-2008, 09:50 PM
So Samuel L. Jackson's in this now.

Could anything be more predictable?
It's as if I already knew it would happen. It didn't even shake me.

No problem with it though, as I'm going to guess it'll be just like his part in Kill Bill.

Ivan Drago
11-03-2008, 11:28 PM
So Samuel L. Jackson's in this now.

Could anything be more predictable?

Hey, they could find a role for him in Lord of the Rings and I wouldn't have a problem with it. I like him as an actor.

megladon8
11-04-2008, 01:39 AM
Hey, they could find a role for him in Lord of the Rings and I wouldn't have a problem with it. I like him as an actor.


Yeah but I was just joking about how obvious it was that he'd be in the new Tarantino movie.

Watashi
11-04-2008, 01:40 AM
He's not in the movie. He's just the narrator.

megladon8
11-04-2008, 01:42 AM
He's not in the movie. He's just the narrator.


Potato potahto.

Sycophant
11-04-2008, 02:51 AM
Awesome. I never get sick of Jackson.

Grouchy
11-04-2008, 03:34 AM
Can't believe someone is complaining that Sam Jackson is in a QT movie.

That Peter Falk sure is in a lot of Cassavetes. Big fucking surprise.

MacGuffin
11-04-2008, 04:14 AM
I recently saw an interview with Quentin Tarantino in one of my film classes that made me think about revisiting his oeuvre.

number8
11-11-2008, 01:44 AM
Possibly Morricone on the score.

That would just... God.

Grouchy
11-11-2008, 02:33 AM
Possibly Morricone on the score.

That would just... God.
Oh dear. That would be incredible.

Amnesiac
11-11-2008, 02:59 AM
Can't believe someone is complaining that Sam Jackson is in a QT movie.

That Peter Falk sure is in a lot of Cassavetes. Big fucking surprise.

But isn't Falk used in more elaborate and centric roles with Cassavetes, whereas it has been established that Tarantino doesn't mind sliding Jackson into a film, even if it's into an ostensibly disposable role (i.e, Kill Bill, Vol. 2).

Then again, I guess you could say the same thing about Falk regarding his cameo appearance in Opening Night.

Even still, I hope Jackson is used more prominently, or in a more memorable fashion, than he was in Kill Bill. Something that doesn't come off like a mere token appearance.

Ezee E
11-11-2008, 05:14 AM
An original score by Morricone, or just rehashes like in his previous two?

Morris Schæffer
11-11-2008, 10:25 AM
Possibly Morricone on the score.

That would just... God.

Please be true. Where did you read this?

Saya
11-11-2008, 12:47 PM
Please be true. Where did you read this?

Here it is. (http://www.tarantino.info/2008/11/09/tarantino-enlists-ennio-morricone-to-score-basterds/)


According to Italy Global Nation (IGN) (http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/Spettacolo/?id=3.0.2686812799), none other than - and bear with me now, please don’t faint, dear readers - Ennio Morricone, ‘il maestro’ himself, has agreed to create the score for Inglourious Basterds. The best composer still walking the earth like Kaine in Kung Fu will turn 80 years this Monday. Passed over unfairly too many times at the Academy Awards he received an honorary one not too long ago. He said no to do some short tunes for Pulp Fiction, he offered himself for Kill Bill but Quentin Tarantino merely used some amazing tunes out of some of the best Spaghetti Westerns out there (for example Navajo Joe) and now he says he was able to accept to compose the score for Tarantino’s latest project. “This time I accepted Tarantino’s proposal” he tells IGN. Ennio Morricone is mostly known for his work on Spaghetti Westerns, such as those by Sergio Leone, but he has also scored such films as The Mission, The Untouchables, Cinema Paradiso and Casualties of War. Tarantino on the other hand is known to be sceptical of film score composers, as he has expressed in interviews many times. If this should in fact confirm, it would probably mean new territory for Tarantino, who has not used a completely original score for any of his movies before. We will keep you posted on this.

Spaceman Spiff
11-11-2008, 05:46 PM
Lame. I wanted to be the one to reintroduce Morricone to the mainstream.

Oh well.

D_Davis
11-11-2008, 06:16 PM
Lame. I wanted to be the one to reintroduce Morricone to the mainstream.

Oh well.

What do you mean?

Morricone was also used extensively in the Kill Bill films.

KK2.0
11-11-2008, 10:40 PM
And yeah, this trend of people knowing everything about the movie in advance - I don't like it. It's different than the viral marketing of stuff like Dark Knight or even Cloverfield, which was built to tease. With Inglorious Basterds, I think we're being let into just a tiny bit more information than I needed.

I've been trying to avoid this practice for the last years, and going to a film with most of it fresh in my mind certainly improves the experience.

speaking about that, is there a trailer for this movie already? =)

Grouchy
11-12-2008, 05:59 PM
Yeah, Morricone has more or less always been on the mainstream.

Watashi
12-11-2008, 10:06 PM
Two new photos:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/basterdsfilmz1-440x298.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/basterdsfilmz2-440x295.jpg

Stay Puft
12-12-2008, 12:44 AM
Samuel L. Jackson (him again!) and Maggie Cheung have joined the cast.

Maggie Cheung is in this!!!?!/

:eek:

Sycophant
12-12-2008, 04:28 AM
Maggie Cheung is in this!!!?!/

:eek:

Like I needed more reason to want this movie.

Saya
12-12-2008, 10:03 AM
Hmm, Pitt looks a bit like Don Corleone in that picture.

Amnesiac
12-13-2008, 02:02 AM
For anyone who hasn't yet seen how Tarantino handles the paparazzi, check this out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDHhdXLwjE0).

number8
12-13-2008, 02:11 AM
For anyone who hasn't yet seen how Tarantino handles the paparazzi, check this out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDHhdXLwjE0).

Fuck that shit. Watch him lay the smackdown on a TV interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2ukSJFgCM

Amnesiac
12-13-2008, 02:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2ukSJFgCM

Yeah, seen it. :)

But what about this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-jwqhw57DI&feature=related)?

number8
12-13-2008, 02:22 AM
Ah, yes. Ol' QT is extremely touchy about his dad.

Amnesiac
12-13-2008, 02:29 AM
Ah, yes. Ol' QT is extremely touchy about his dad.

I've always wondered what the exact details behind that outburst are.

number8
12-13-2008, 02:35 AM
I've always wondered what the exact details behind that outburst are.

Quentin's dad walked out on his mom while she was pregnant. After Pulp Fiction was a hit an QT won an Oscar, Premiere magazine thought it would be "touching" to track down his dad and interview him about his son's success. The dad (and the article) kind of "reached out" to QT, with him wanting to reunite. That horrified Quentin, because the dad never once contacted him before he became famous.

QT actually mistook that reporter for Premiere's editor. He wasn't. But QT has a grudge with Premiere that stays to this day. He refuses to do any interviews with them.

Amnesiac
12-13-2008, 03:18 AM
Ah, I see. So he really did spit at the wrong guy. Interesting.

MadMan
12-13-2008, 08:30 AM
Morricone's doing the score? Pitt rockin' the stache? Beyond radical.

Watashi
12-17-2008, 09:37 PM
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/inglouriousbasterdstable-440x292.jpg


When is Cannes again? May?

Hopefully a trailer will be out in a few months.

ledfloyd
12-18-2008, 12:11 AM
Two new photos:
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/basterdsfilmz2-440x295.jpg
that looks exactly how i pictured that scene in my head when reading the script.

eternity
12-31-2008, 08:53 PM
http://weinsteinco.com/#/film/inglourious/

Release Date: August 21st

Pop Trash
01-01-2009, 04:13 AM
Hmm I was just gunna post that but Eternity beat me to it. Anyways that's an interesting release date. Not really a bigger summer movie but not really Oscar bait either. That's cool since many movies released around August and September kinda suck.

Watashi
02-09-2009, 06:51 AM
Trailer is gonna hit the net this Thursday.

Can't wait.

Dead & Messed Up
02-09-2009, 07:17 AM
Trailer is gonna hit the net this Thursday.

Can't wait.

I've already seen it.

:cool:

Bosco B Thug
02-09-2009, 07:27 AM
I've already seen it.

:cool:
Dude. I'm gonna assume it's promising.

I'm super anxious. I'm re-living some Sweeney Todd trailer anticipation feelings (although I doubt there'll ever be another movie I'll anticipate and fret greater about). LET'S SEE IT.

Maybe it'll be in front of Friday the 13th? I just might have to hold of seeing it first on the internet if it is.

Saya
02-10-2009, 03:47 PM
Here is a sneak preview of the trailer (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/10/sneak-preview-inglourious-basterds-trailer/)

Looks great!

ledfloyd
02-10-2009, 05:19 PM
Here is a sneak preview of the trailer (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/10/sneak-preview-inglourious-basterds-trailer/)

Looks great!
a trailer for a trailer?

i like the logo.

Amnesiac
02-10-2009, 10:23 PM
This may turn out to be neither here nor there when the full trailer is released, let alone when the full movie is out, but Pitt's delivery of the final line in that trailer preview is a bit off somehow. Something doesn't seem quite right about it.

number8
02-10-2009, 10:25 PM
This may turn out to be neither here nor there when the full trailer is released, let alone when the full movie is out, but Pitt's delivery of the final line in that trailer preview is a bit off somehow. Something doesn't seem quite right about it.

It's, y'know, deliberately campy. Which is QT's M.O.

Amnesiac
02-10-2009, 10:41 PM
It's, y'know, deliberately campy.

I don't know, I've seen all of his movies and none of his deliberate camp has come off quite like this.

But, as I said, it might work within the context of that scene... but as it stands, something about the accent and Pitt's dramatic lean into the close-up seems to be trying to muster up this magnetism and importance that is sort of undercut by the line delivery. But I suppose that might be the point. Which still leaves me finding the delivery a bit off... a line like that should be delivered a bit less comically, I'd say. But then again, I didn't craft the film and I'm basing this off a short little clip, so this criticism could implode on itself once more footage becomes available.

With Tarantino movies, the camp is usually tempered by a prior scene(s) infused with successful and compelling gravitas (ala Kill Bill: Volume One's amazing opening) before playing around a bit and getting silly ("wiggle your big toe"). So, maybe the lack of a larger tonal context is probably what's making this seem a little jarring... he might be going balls-to-the-wall camp here, or doing a mix of solemnity and campiness. Who knows.

Also, I get that Pitt is probably aware of what he's going for here and he's probably not trying to deliver the line totally serious, but in an intentionally off-kilter fashion, but maybe I just think that a line like that should have been delivered a little more soberly. We'll see.

Amnesiac
02-11-2009, 01:56 AM
Here's more footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWfkENxN_ZA&eurl=http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded).

I'm still not entirely sold on Pitt's performance, but there are certainly far better delivered lines in this clip than that trailer-punctuating "I want my scalps!" bit.

number8
02-11-2009, 02:19 AM
Oh my god, that Hitler is hilarious.

Saya
02-11-2009, 04:26 AM
Hah, was Hitler wearing a cape?

I want to see this so bad. :)