Directors Consensus -- Farrelly Brothers

[Ezee E]

RULES & RESULTS (http://www.match-cut.org/showthread.php?p=26509#post265 09)

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Samuel Fuller. Farrelly Brothers. This is Match Cut!

[Sven]

Dumb and Dumber - 2.5
Kingpin - 5
There's Something About Mary - 3.5
Me Myself and Irene - 7
Shallow Hal - 4

Despite these ratings, I still kinda wanna see Stuck On You for some reason.

[Ezee E]

Dumb & Dumber - 10 (still find it consistently hilarious, something which only a handful of others can do)
Kingpin - 4 (tries to redo Dumb & Dumber, but doesn't even get close)
There's Something About Mary - 10 (same as D&D)
Me, Myself, & Irene - 6 (few hilarious moments, but nothing memorable)
Stuck on You - 7 (goes for the heart a bit too much, but manages to work because of Damon/Kinnear)

[Raiders]

Dumb & Dumber (1994) - 6.5
Kingpin (1996) - 8.0
There's Something About Mary (1998) - 6.0
Me, Myself & Irene (2000) - 2.5
Shallow Hal (2001) - 7.5
Stuck on You (2003) - 7.0
Fever Pitch (2005) - 7.5

Against all odds, I'm quite the fan.

[Mysterious Dude]

There's Something About Mary - 6.5
Osmosis Jones - 6.5

[DrewG]

Dumb & Dumber 10 (One of the best comedies I've ever seen. Go ahead, flame. It's one of the first films I really loved as a kid, nothing will take that away, no matter how my taste changes.)

Kingpin 8
There's Something About Mary 8
Me, Myself & Irene 7
Shallow Hal 5
Fever Pitch 4

[balmakboor]

Dumb & Dumber - 9
Kingpin - 7
There's Something About Mary - 10
Me, Myself, & Irene - 7
Osmosis Jones - 8
Shallow Hal - 9
Stuck on You - 9

Yep, I love their stuff.

[ledfloyd]

Dumb & Dumber - 8
Kingpin - 7
There's Something About Mary - 9
Me Myself & Irene - 2
Fever Pitch - 5

[origami_mustache]

Dumb & Dumber - 8
Kingpin - 8.5
There's Something About Mary - 7
Me, Myself, & Irene - 6.5
Shallow Hal - 4
Stuck on You - 5.5

I recently watched King Pin again, and although I was drunk, I concluded that it is a fantastic comedy script that never bores and has interesting, well developed characters, not to mention the "Showdown" scene is one of the funniest scenes of all time in my opinion.

[Silencio]

Dumb & Dumber - 7
There's Something About Mary - 6
Shallow Hal - 4
Stuck On You - 6

[dreamdead]

Dumb & Dumber - 8
Kingpin - 6
There's Something About Mary - 5
Me, Myself, & Irene - 4
Shallow Hal - 4

[Qrazy]

Dumb and Dumber - 5.5
Kingpin - 5
There's Something About Mary - 6
Me Myself and Irene - 5.5
Stuck on You - 4

I'm not really sure how to rate them... I think they make very boring but occasionally funny cinema.

[Raiders]

I recently watched King Pin again, and although I was drunk, I concluded that it is a fantastic comedy script that never bores and has interesting, well developed characters, not to mention the "Showdown" scene is one of the funniest scenes of all time in my opinion.

Drunk or not, your opinion is correct.

[Melville]

Dumb and Dumber - 5.5
There's Something About Mary - 7
Me Myself and Irene - 5.5
Shallow Hal - 2

[Raiders]

Hm, though I rated Kingpin the highest, I often think of Shallow Hal as their best film. I see Match Cut does not agree.

[Rowland]

It has been too long since I've seen Dumb and Dumber...

Kingpin - 7.5
There's Something About Mary - 7
Shallow Hal - 6.5

[Winston*]

Man, I hated Shallow Hal. That movie's like on the Clerks II/Down to Earth with Chris Rock level of bad

[EyesWideOpen]

Dumb & Dumber - 6
Kingpin - 5
There's Something About Mary - 6
Me Myself & Irene - 5

[Boner M]

Fuck these Kingpin scores.

Dumb & Dumber - 7.5
Kingpin - 8.5
There's Something About Mary - 6
Me, Myself & Irene - 6.5

I've seen the start of The Heartbreak Kid and can't find a reason to finish it. Need to see May's original first, too.

[Derek]

Dumb & Dumber - 7.0
Kingpin - 7.5
There's Something About Mary - 6.0
Me, Myself, & Irene - 5.5
Stuck on You - 7.0

[Watashi]

Dumber and Dumber - 8
Kingpin - 7
There's Something About Mary - 4

[Boner M]

That's better.

[BirdsAteMyFace]

Dumb & Dumber - 6
There's Something About Mary - 6
Shallow Hal - 3
Stuck on You - 3.5
The Heartbreak Kid - 1

[Dead & Messed Up]

Dumb & Dumber - 6
Kingpin - 3
There's Something About Mary - 9
Me, Myself & Irene - 2
Shallow Hal - 8

I doan get it. I hate some and love some.

[Morris Schæffer]

Dumb & Dumber (1994) - 8.5
Kingpin (1996) - 7.5
There's Something About Mary (1998) - 7.0
Me, Myself & Irene (2000) - 4.5
Stuck on You (2003) - 4.0

Dumb & Dumber is utter hilarity!!

[Kurosawa Fan]

Dumb and Dumber - 7.5
Kingpin - 7.5
There's Something About Mary - 6.5
Me, Myself & Irene - 5.0
Shallow Hal - 2.5
Stuck On You - 5.0
Fever Pitch - 6.0

[Lasse]

Dumb & Dumber (1994) - 9.5
Kingpin (1996) - 7
There's Something About Mary (1998) - 9
Me, Myself & Irene (2000) - 6
Osmosis Jones (2001) - 5

[Raiders]

Seriously, what is going on with the Shallow Hal ratings? I am genuinely shocked.

[Sycophant]

Haven't seen a single one of theirs.

[Dukefrukem]

Dumb & Dumber - 10
Kingpin - 5
There's Something About Mary - 9
Me, Myself, & Irene - 7
Stuck on You - 5
Fever Pitch - 6
Shallow Hal - 7

[balmakboor]

Seriously, what is going on with the Shallow Hal ratings? I am genuinely shocked.

I think people either saw a completely different movie than I did (it's my second favorite after Something About Mary) or it is simply too sentimental. I thought it took the whole notion of making fun of "fatty" and turned it wonderfully on its ear.

[Winston*]

Seriously, what is going on with the Shallow Hal ratings? I am genuinely shocked.
It's one of these movies that's so unfunny it actually makes me angry.

[Kurosawa Fan]

It's one of these movies that's so unfunny it actually makes me angry.

This.

[Sven]

This.

This.

[origami_mustache]

This.

This

[Melville]

This
Also, the central metaphor didn't make any sense. Not even in a nonsensical, funny way. How is Hal any less shallow in the end if he only ever sees the hot chick inside the fat chick?

[Winston*]

Also, the central metaphor didn't make any sense. Not even in a nonsensical, funny way. How is Hal any less shallow in the end if he only ever sees the hot chick inside the fat chick?
At the end of the movie the Tony Robbins magic has worn off he sees fat girl as she actually is and still loves her for what's inside or some shit.

[Melville]

At the end of the movie the Tony Robbins magic has worn off he sees fat girl as she actually is and still loves her for what's inside or some shit.
Wow. I totally forgot that. I guess I'll stick with the maddeningly-unfunny criticism.

[Raiders]

Alrighty. I didn't find it a particularly funny film, either, but comedy is the most subjective form and all that... so, fair enough.

[MacGuffin]

Shallow Hal is borderline objectively bad.

[Raiders]

Shallow Hal is borderline objectively bad.

Thank you.

[MacGuffin]

Thank you.

I will elaborate. It gets all of its laughs out of the fact that she is fat, and then turns around and gives us a moral asking us to accept people for who they are. Jack Black is one of America's better working actors, so I was absolutely disappointed.

[Raiders]

I will elaborate. It gets all of its laughs out of the fact that she is fat, and then turns around and gives us a moral asking us to expect people for who they are. Jack Black is one of America's better working actors, so I was absolutely disappointed.

That's actually not at all what it does. Think about all the characters. The film is parodying the fact that nobody could believe he truly loved her. Why not? If you go with the obvious answer, it isn't Hal the film is chastising.

I'm just going to pull a Rowland here and link to this great, though overly wordy, Senses of Cinema essay on the film:

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/04/33/shallow_hal.html

[MacGuffin]

That's actually not at all what it does. Think about all the characters. The film is parodying the fact that nobody could believe he truly loved her. Why not? If you go with the obvious answer, it isn't Hal the film is chastising.

I'm just going to pull a Rowland here and link to this great, though overly wordy, Senses of Cinema essay on the film:

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/04/33/shallow_hal.html

I looked at it a bit differently then you did, but since I wanted to like it, I may give it another chance.

[origami_mustache]

Soooo with all of those visual and verbal fat jokes..."cankles," etc. the, Farrelly Brothers are pulling a Haneke asking us to look at ourselves in the mirror?

:lol:

[Sven]

At the end of the movie the Tony Robbins magic has worn off he sees fat girl as she actually is and still loves her for what's inside or some shit.

One of the things that I dislike most about that movie, and one of the primary things that has stuck with me, is at the end, when he realizes he's been under a spell and he's like "OMG, I still love her anyway!", he immediately runs to a fat chick that he thinks is her and lays a big ol' kiss on her. I guess it's played for laughs ("Ha ha, all fat people look alike... or something"), but ultimately, it defeats his revelation, and the film's moral center I guess, by commodifying fat.

Ultimately, though, I just thought it was annoying and badly paced.

[Raiders]

Soooo with all of those visual and verbal fat jokes..."cankles," etc. the, Farrelly Brothers are pulling a Haneke asking us to look at ourselves in the mirror?

:lol:

Eh, no, that's not really what I was saying. But, I think a film can be both moralistic and play to potty and somewhat insensitive humor. I mean, her fat is exaggerated, same as using Paltrow to exaggerate the opposite.

[Qrazy]

Commodifying fat.


:lol:

[monolith94]

I've seen their movies, but I just can't bring myself to care enough to vote.

[Raiders]

he immediately runs to a fat chick that he thinks is her and lays a big ol' kiss on her. I guess it's played for laughs ("Ha ha, all fat people look alike... or something"), but ultimately, it defeats his revelation, and the film's moral center I guess, by commodifying fat.

Didn't he not know what she looked like since all he had seen was Gwyneth Paltrow? Eh, either way it doesn't change anything for me, but that is a little bit of a shame.

[soitgoes...]

Dumb & Dumber (1994) - 8.0
Kingpin (1996) - 7.0
There's Something About Mary (1998) - 7.0
Me, Myself & Irene (2000) - 1.5
Osmosis Jones (2001) - 3.0
Shallow Hal (2001) - 2.0
Stuck on You (2003) - 1.5

I must've lost my sense of humor 10 years ago.

[Rowland]

I'll back you up Raiders, I think Shallow Hal is a very sweet movie, though my rating is as low as it is because I agree with iosos that it isn't paced very well, and the filmmaking is a bit drab even by the Farrelly's standards.

[Spinal]

Dumb and Dumber - 5.5
There's Something About Mary - 6.5
Fever Pitch - 4

[Ezee E]

RESULTS:
1. Dumb & Dumber - 7.44 (24)
2. There's Something About Mary - 6.92 (25)
3. Kingpin - 6.55 (20)
4. Osmosis Jones - 5.63 (4)
5. Stuck on You - 5.54 (13)
6. Fever Pitch - 5.42 (6)
7. Me Myself & Irene - 5.05 (19)
8. Shallow Hal - 4.89 (14)

DID NOT QUALIFY:
-The Heartbreak Kid - 1 (1)

RATING: 6.16

BIGGEST FAN: Fazoupow
BIGGEST HATER: BirdsEatMyFace (but also the only one to endure Heartbreak Kid)
MOST DEDICATED: Raiders, Faz, K-Fan, Dukefrukem, and soitgoes have each seen 7

[MadMan]

I'm sort of bummed I missed this, even though I haven't seen alot from the two brothers. Dumb and Dumber to me is one of the best comedies on the 90s.