Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[Barty]

This needs a thread. And I need a trailer. Now.

[Ezee E]

I can't wait, but it's still a horrible title.

[Sycophant]

It's probably a weird association to be making, but I can't separate this title from a mental image I have of the cover a cheesey He-Man book I had gorwing up.

[MadMan]

Like I said before, if the movie doesn't suck I don't care what the hell they call it.

[EvilShoe]

Some pics:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2007/11/indyskull2.jpghttp://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2007/11/indyskull1.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2007/11/indyskull3.jpg

[Morris Schæffer]

I can't wait for this, but the son angle feels so desperate. Would they need a son if the actual script was genuinely inspired? Then again, Connery as Henry Jones was really cool so what do I know.

[MadMan]

Aging Indy will be fun to watch in action. Of course after the credits roll he'll finally retire and receive his first Social Security check.









Hey I want to see this movie too but that doesn't mean I can't slip in a really bad old man Indy joke here and there :P

[Henry Gale]

So did anyone else see this? Spoilers if real.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/17/24617.php

I dont know how reliable it is, but if it is true... yikes.

[ledfloyd]

So did anyone else see this? Spoilers if real.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/17/24617.php

I dont know how reliable it is, but if it is true... yikes.

god i hope not.

[MadMan]

So did anyone else see this? Spoilers if real.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/17/24617.php

I dont know how reliable it is, but if it is true... yikes.Must....resist....the urge to....read.....article......


....whew. I have very little will power when it comes to potential or real spoilers.

[Watashi]

The first trailer for Steven Spielberg's Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is now planned for a debut in February. While we don't know for sure with which movie it will show, Paramount's biggest film that month is The Spiderwick Chronicles, so keep your eye on that one. Of course, it's possible Paramount will decide to debut footage earlier during the Super Bowl, but we're not sure.

February?

BAH! BAH!


BAH!

[Dukefrukem]

he looks old and how many side kicks is Shia gonna do?

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Articles/20071130/425.indiana.jones.113007.jpg

[Morris Schæffer]

The wait's gonna be a long one, but we'll get a Star Trek teaser with Cloverfield apparently.

[Dukefrukem]

The wait's gonna be a long one, but we'll get a Star Trek teaser with Cloverfield apparently.

why did you post this in the Indiana Johnes thread? :cool:

[MadMan]

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Articles/20071130/425.indiana.jones.113007.jpg
"Kid down here lies the remains of my career."

[number8]

"Kid down here lies the remains of my career."

"Oh look, that rock looks like Firewall."
"That's bear shit."
"I know..."

[KK2.0]

I can't wait for this, but the son angle feels so desperate. Would they need a son if the actual script was genuinely inspired? Then again, Connery as Henry Jones was really cool so what do I know.


I've been thinking... in Indy 3, Spielberg introduced River Phoenix as the Young Indiana Jones, already thinking about continuing the series with him. But Phoenix died of overdose and the project ended up on tv, while the film series were finished.

Now, he introduces Shia as Indy's son, obviously trying to 'pass the torch' once again. I'm not surprised if LeBouf leads the action sequences.

[Morris Schæffer]

Now, he introduces Shia as Indy's son, obviously trying to 'pass the torch' once again. I'm not surprised if LeBouf leads the action sequences.

This is my concern as well.

[Watashi]

Teaser Poster!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/DestructionZero/Indy4teaser.jpg

http://icine.org/forums/images/smiles/omg.gifhttp://icine.org/forums/images/smiles/omg.gifhttp://icine.org/forums/images/smiles/omg.gif

[Morris Schæffer]

Is that from celebrated artist Drew Struzan? Is it incorrect to suggest he's done better than that poster? I think it's average. Ford doesn't even really look like him and the giant skull on the foreground reminds me of Ghost Rider. Terribly uncreative.

[number8]

Huh? That looks exactly like old Ford.

[MadMan]

While the posters for the previous films were far cooler I really like this one. I feel in a way its in the same style as those, and its certainly better than most standard Hollywood posters.

[Wryan]

Is it incorrect to suggest he's done better than that poster? I think it's average.

Not at all incorrect. I felt the same way. It's a decent poster, but Struzan has brought more life into some of his other stuff compared to this.

[Wryan]

Huh? That looks exactly like old Ford.

I think he was talking about the face, which looks like my grandfather after eating a heavy meal and halfway to Nap-ville.

[[ETM]]

The worst poster art Struzan has ever done is the exact opposite of this... I despise the collages people have grown accustom to - this poster is concise and to the point... it's about Indy, it has always been about Indy - the rest is there to provide the mood, nothing else.

Having said that, the font for the title is a bit too modern, but it looks nice. I'd put this on my wall.

[Watashi]

;14819']

Having said that, the font for the title is a bit too modern, but it looks nice. I'd put this on my wall.

It's the same font used for all the other Indy posters.....

[Wryan]

It's the same font used for all the other Indy posters.....

All About Eve's a great film.

[Henry Gale]

I don't really like how all of his recent posters have looked digitally enhanced or altered (likely by others after he was done with the original art). The lense flares and blending on his posters look far more photoshopped nowadays.

I remember his sketches for his Revenge Of The Sith poster and how much different they were as well as him saying that he was mad that the studio cut and pasted what they wanted from it afterwards. At least his Hellboy one looks cool.

But I guess I should at least be happy they used his stuff at all, he made some awesome ones for stuff like Pan's Labyrinth, Zathura and Chamber Of Secrets that were never used.

[[ETM]]

It's the same font used for all the other Indy posters.....

Well, it looked different to me before, I don't know... perhaps it's just the color.

[Wryan]

http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e9125985/IJC/Experience/Themeparks/FE_Poster02.jpg

For the Disney ride.

For comparison.

[[ETM]]

For comparison.

I'd say this is a better comparison:
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/temple-doom-poster-01.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/0/08/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Temple_o f_Doom_PosterA.jpg

[Wryan]

They are both Struzan so they are both valid comparisons. Sure the Doom poster looks cool, but the similarities between it and the Skull poster are superficial (single, monolithic shape; fiery light source behind). There's something about the Skull poster that I can't put my finger on. Something static. The ashy, Mayan-ish watermarked symbols on the bottom left and right don't really do anything nor add anything. Imagine them gone...I could see a better poster already.

Hmm...

[[ETM]]

The ashy, Mayan-ish watermarked symbols on the bottom left and right don't really do anything nor add anything. Imagine them gone...I could see a better poster already.

Hmm...

I noticed those. I think those are most definitely photoshopped afterwards, and Struzan had nothing to do with it, as usual.

[Wryan]

;14877']I noticed those. I think those are most definitely photoshopped afterwards, and Struzan had nothing to do with it, as usual.

Oh I definitely agree. Those smack of hasty "improvements" and don't look anything like what Struzan would do.

Bastards. :cry:

EDIT: On the other hand, imagine you're the Photoshop guy and the studio says, "Here, add this stuff to this Drew Struzan poster." I'd cry myself to sleep.

[[ETM]]

EDIT: On the other hand, imagine you're the Photoshop guy and the studio says, "Here, add this stuff to this Drew Struzan poster." I'd cry myself to sleep.

You get used to it after a while, my friend... trust me.:sad:

[Morris Schæffer]

I always imagined the perfect teaser poster to feature an opened suitcase on a bed, containing a whip, a fedora hat and a pistol. The tagline would be "Adventure is underway" or something along those lines.

[bac0n]

So did anyone else see this? Spoilers if real.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/17/24617.php

I dont know how reliable it is, but if it is true... yikes.

If true, then that's the worst idea since midichlorians.

[Scar]

Wow.

[[ETM]]

I always imagined the perfect teaser poster to feature an opened suitcase on a bed, containing a whip, a fedora hat and a pistol. The tagline would be "Adventure is underway" or something along those lines.

Er... like this?
http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc183/th_97343_indyposter_122_183lo. jpg (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97343_indyposter _122_183lo.jpg)

[Scar]

;15067']Er... like this?
http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc183/th_97343_indyposter_122_183lo. jpg (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97343_indyposter _122_183lo.jpg)

Tits.

[MadMan]

;15067']Er... like this?
http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc183/th_97343_indyposter_122_183lo. jpg (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97343_indyposter _122_183lo.jpg)
That's amazing. Perfect in its simplicity.

[Wryan]

I sincerely hope they restrain themselves from putting in too many of those "I'm too old for this shit" type of jokes. I predict lots of shots of Ford sighing in resignation concerning the shit he's about to get into.

Please no.

[Morris Schæffer]

;15067']Er... like this?
http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc183/th_97343_indyposter_122_183lo. jpg (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97343_indyposter _122_183lo.jpg)

I did forget about that one, but there's no reason for that hat and whip to be hanging on the Ark. I'm talking about the scene in the first film where Indy is packing while talking to Brody about what a cautious fella he is, throwing a pistol into the suitcase.

Your example isn't perfect. A suitcase suggests something that is coming, that is imminent, on final approach. Which creates anticipation in ways that your example cannot because those are objects that shouldn't be in the same location.

Hey, I'm a marketing major and I take this shit seriously.

[[ETM]]

I don't think that's the Ark, Morris... looks like a crate with belongings for an expedition or something. It's more in line with the character who is an adventurous traveler than a suitcase. Also, Indy was never about guns, it's not the right symbol at all. He did use is a lot, but that's not who he is.

[number8]

;15157']I don't think that's the Ark, Morris... looks like a crate with belongings for an expedition or something. It's more in line with the character who is an adventurous traveler than a suitcase. Also, Indy was never about guns, it's not the right symbol at all. He did use is a lot, but that's not who he is.

It was supposed to be the ark. Look at the numbers. There are two numbers switched, but no one knows if that's just a typo or intentional.

[[ETM]]

It was supposed to be the ark. Look at the numbers. There are two numbers switched, but no one knows if that's just a typo or intentional.

Yeah, I haven't seen the film in a while. I didn't remember that it said "property of dr Jones" on it or not.

[MadMan]

;15157']I don't think that's the Ark, Morris... looks like a crate with belongings for an expedition or something. It's more in line with the character who is an adventurous traveler than a suitcase. Also, Indy was never about guns, it's not the right symbol at all. He did use is a lot, but that's not who he is.While I don't mind the use of a crate instead of a suitcase I think his trademark pistol should have been included. Come on man he's not about guns? What? One of the most famous scenes involving Indy has him shooting that sword wielding dude in the street. I think Indy's revolver is as much a part of the character as his trademark hat, whip, and worn out jacket.

[Rowland]

An interview with John Hurt (http://www.premiere.com/features/4335/q-a-exclusive-john-hurt-on-indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull.html)

I love how he just casually dismisses his role as lightweight fluff (as he did with V for Vendetta), and basically accuses George Lucas of being (surprise surprise!) anti-social.

[Morris Schæffer]

"Were you amazed what he gets up to in the film when he's practically the same age as you?"

This is amusing. It's true of course, but Hurt looks so much more elderly than Ford even taking into account the 2-year age gap.

[Qrazy]

All the posters are awful, still anticipating though.

[[ETM]]

So they never shot on location? Lame.

[Morris Schæffer]

;18557']So they never shot on location? Lame.

Never? When I read that they didn't actually go to Peru, I was also dissapointed for some reason. Still, I'd have to know what they did for the previous flicks to determine whether this is good or bad. All I know is that previous Indy films had some truly memorable locations.

[[ETM]]

Never?

He said they never left the studio(s). I'm clinging onto hope that he meant *he* never shot on location...

[Barty]

Awesome new article:

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/02/indianajones200802?printable=t rue&currentPage=all

[megladon8]

Indiana Jones and aliens??

Colour me intrigued.

[transmogrifier]

*slinks in*

This movie's not going to be very good.

*slinks out*

[Barty]

*slinks in*

This movie's not going to be very good.

*slinks out*

Impossible.

[megladon8]

I think it's a cool little continuation of how the films embody the pulp fiction styles and subjects of the times in which they take place.

The original films took place around WWII, when high adventure swashbucklers were huge.

Now this new film (which obviously takes place in the '50s or so) deals with more science fiction related subjects, like the pulp of the times. Cheesy alien stuff was huge in the '50s.

[Sycophant]

Impossible.

Possible. Maybe not guaranteed. But possible.

[Barty]

Possible. Maybe not guaranteed. But possible.

No. You fail.

[Sycophant]

No. You fail.Films that are guaranteed to be good:

[None]

[Wryan]

I really really really hate to say it, but I'm not diggin Cate's look so far. It goes without saying she'll probably be amazing, but in this first look, it just seems...weird.

[Ezee E]

Cate Blanchett looks like the female version of Anton Chigurh.

[Wryan]

Cate Blanchett looks like the female version of Anton Chigurh.

Not in those pants...

[Raiders]

Well, if the first three were intended to look like matinee serials, why not have the fourth one be in vain of a 50s sci-fi film?

[Qrazy]

Well, if the first three were intended to look like matinee serials, why not have the fourth one be in vain of a 50s sci-fi film?

Because it ought to be another matinee serial...?

[MadMan]

Well, if the first three were intended to look like matinee serials, why not have the fourth one be in vain of a 50s sci-fi film?Considering how much I love 50s sci-fi I'm down with the whole idea.

Also the film will end with Indy getting taken up into a gigant spaceship to go live on that alien planet with the old people from Coocon :P

[Lasse]

Also the film will end with Indy getting taken up into a gigant spaceship to go live on that alien planet with the old people from Coocon :P

And there'll be countless sequels because Harrison Ford doesn't get older. Fuck you, Brian Dennehy! :frustrated:

[MadMan]

And there'll be countless sequels because Harrison Ford doesn't get older. Fuck you, Brian Dennehy! :frustrated:Heh. Well to be honest since Indy drank from the Holy Grail he will live to be hundreds of years old....if he had stayed there and guarded it he would have lived forever. Since Spielberg has such power in Hollywood there won't be a fifth sequel, but considering how evil the suits can be in Tinsel Town I wouldn't be surprised if they went ahead with another flick anyways...

[Morris Schæffer]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9769/picture1za6.png

KABOOOOM!!!!!!!

:)

[Morris Schæffer]

Check this out:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg192/tyrell77_2008/X1100tmp1.gif

[Grouchy]

I want Cate Blanchett. In my bed. In Nazi outfit. 24 hours a day.

[EvilShoe]

Wow, that guy from Deadwood and that guy from Lost are in the background.
This cannot fail!

[Qrazy]

Trailer yet or what?

[Ezee E]

Superbowl teaser possibly?

[MadMan]

Wow, that guy from Deadwood and that guy from Lost are in the background.
This cannot fail!I just recognized Patchy on the left. Cool.

[lovejuice]

I want Cate Blanchett. In my bed. In Nazi outfit. 24 hours a day.

correct me if i'm wrong. she is a commie, not a nazi, isn't she?

[EvilShoe]

correct me if i'm wrong. she is a commie, not a nazi, isn't she?
This is a fantasy he's had since before they announced she was cast in Indy 4.

[Grouchy]

correct me if i'm wrong. she is a commie, not a nazi, isn't she?
Yeah, I forgot about that. "In Soviet outfit" doesn't sound so kinky, though. I have the feeling she'd scream and read fragments of Marx to me.

[Barty]

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/020108_indianajones2.jpg

:)

[Barty]

Here it is, the Crystal Skull:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/01/26301.php

[Watashi]

Looks definitely alien to me.

[Sycophant]

Looks definitely alien to me.
That's what she said!

[megladon8]

Wonderful, image was taken down.

No one happened to save it, did they?

[MadMan]

Wonderful, image was taken down.

No one happened to save it, did they?I'm hoping they did as well. Damn studio.

[Rowland]

I'm hoping they did as well. Damn studio.Yeah, how dare they wish to preserve any sense of mystery in the movie they're releasing.

[MadMan]

Yeah, how dare they wish to preserve any sense of mystery in the movie they're releasing.:P

Then why release the other photos? I'm still going to see the film so actually seeing the skull isn't going to detur me. And I highly doubt it will stop anyone who wants to view the film from seeing it either.

[number8]

:P

Then why release the other photos? I'm still going to see the film so actually seeing the skull isn't going to detur me. And I highly doubt it will stop anyone who wants to view the film from seeing it either.

It was Lucas and Spielberg who asked, from what I know, because they wanted people to be surprised at the skull in the film.

Our site got a nice letter asking to take it down, not the usual "WE WILL FUCK YOU UP" letters we get from Warners.

[MadMan]

It was Lucas and Spielberg who asked, from what I know, because they wanted people to be surprised at the skull in the film.

Our site got a nice letter asking to take it down, not the usual "WE WILL FUCK YOU UP" letters we get from Warners.Okay, fair enough.

Also my response to the letter="damn" mixed in with very little surprise. That would be awesome if the letter actually said "We will fuck you up if you don't take down the picture." Heh.

[Morris Schæffer]

2.5 days and counting.

The world holds its collective breath...

Except Kurosawa Fan :)

[Watashi]

Barty has seen the trailer.

And in his own words it is "the greatest thing I've ever seen".

[D_Davis]

Barty has seen the trailer.

And in his own words it is "the greatest thing I've ever seen".

Are you sure he wasn't just watching his Indy fan film?

[Lasse]

And in his own words it is "the greatest thing I've ever seen".

I don't know how it could be anything else.

[Wryan]

Barty has seen the trailer.

And in his own words it is "the greatest thing I've ever seen".

Well, alright, but if it's not, we get to light his pubic hair on fire with really big matches.

[MadMan]

Barty has seen the trailer.

And in his own words it is "the greatest thing I've ever seen".Yey for hyperbole. I hope he's right though, but I doubt it. Few things qualify for "The Greatest Thing I've Ever Seen."


Are you sure he wasn't just watching his Indy fan film?That's always a possibility.


Well, alright, but if it's not, we get to light his pubic hair on fire with really big matches.Everyone join in! Someone will have to bring the lighter fluid though....:lol:

[Stay Puft]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4317&Itemid=99

Bad quality. Use your discretion.

[Barty]

I have seen it 3 times today. Greatest valentines day ever.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I have seen it 3 times today. Greatest valentines day ever.

It's a good trailer.

[Lasse]

It's a good trailer.

Really. :cool:

[Sven]

Very awesome!

[krazed]

Here's a good copy:

http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html

This looks awesome.

[Raiders]

Good trailer, but he still looks too old for that shit.

[megladon8]

Looks good. The flapping American flag was a little much.

The swinging gag was pretty good. And I love Ray Winstone.

So yes, I'm excited.

[D_Davis]

That looks better than I could have ever imagined.

[Sycophant]

Well, at least it looks like an Indiana Jones flick.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Boy, I really could have done without that line after the swinging gag. Still, it looks promising.

[lovejuice]

wow, it almost matches my expectation which is saying a LOT.

[KK2.0]

tears nearly rolled here, seriously.

[lovejuice]

umm....am i going to spend my valentine humming the indiana jones theme like an idiot all day like this?

[megladon8]

Well, at least it looks like an Indiana Jones flick.


Yes, this is the best summation of it yet.

I think that's all anyone could rightly ask for.

[Ivan Drago]

What movie is the trailer for this playing before?

[Morris Schæffer]

I'm hardly surprised that it looks like an Indiana Jones flick. No, that's faint praise. You could play the theme over a black background and that would look like an Indiana Jones movie. Still, as a fan I'm obviously pleased with this trailer, but not completely persuaded by it. I don't like the montages from previous films and the backgrounds in that chase looked really fake. It reveals little in terms of the actual story and is instead a collection of action scenes and quips period. Naturally, that need not be a bad omen.

In addition to the fantastic action, what I really love about previous entries was its spine-tingling sense of discovery as seen in the opening to "Raiders" and the map room sequence in the same film. I'm hoping this film will be similar and that the artifact-hunting will provide plenty of goose-bumps.

Besides that, some generic temples and speer-chucking locals and an overriding sense that they indeed didn't film much on location as confirmed earlier in this thread.

The Fedora shot+shadow+beginning of the theme was perfection however.

[Dukefrukem]

Looks so good. I'm so excited.

[Sycophant]

I was actually surprised at how fake a good deal of it looked, even though it's not the sort of thing I'm gonig to get too worked up about. After all, it could still have some post waiting to be done. Still, for some reason I thought that there were going to be more practical effects than CG. A lot of it looked CG. *shrugs*

[megladon8]

I was actually surprised at how fake a good deal of it looked, even though it's not the sort of thing I'm gonig to get too worked up about. After all, it could still have some post waiting to be done. Still, for some reason I thought that there were going to be more practical effects than CG. A lot of it looked CG. *shrugs*


I thought this, too.

Especially the stuff in the driving scenes. It seemed like it was all done in front of a green screen, which is disappointing because - as you said - I was expecting more practical stuff.

I thought I read before the film even began production that they were planning on doing all the stunts and whatnot, using as little CGI as possible? Maybe Ford found that age has really caught up with him and simply couldn't do a lot of the stuff?

[Rowland]

I believe they shot most of the movie on studio sets in LA, because Spielberg wanted to stay close to his family.

[Morris Schæffer]

I believe they shot most of the movie on studio sets in LA, because Spielberg wanted to stay close to his family.

Damn wuss! What about the fans?!

[Sycophant]

Damn wuss! What about the fans?!They don't generally smell as good as his family.

[lovejuice]

am i going to be the first to say blanchett is perfectly hawt in a villainous kinda way.

[Sycophant]

am i going to be the first to say blanchett is perfectly hawt in a villainous kinda way.I think someone said it earlier in the thread. But Jesus Christ, she looks amazing.

[Ezee E]

Damn. Must see this when I get home.

[Barty]

Boy, I really could have done without that line after the swinging gag.

Bah, that was the best part. The Wherehouse sequence is going to get my panties in a twist.

[Wryan]

I'm really hoping there are less pregnant pauses allowing for one-liners in the final film, especially when they make no sense (two henchmen in truck just gonna look at him all flap-jawed while he cracks his line and THEN take a punch?).

But it's probably gonna be fun anyway.

[Qrazy]

That trailer is incredibly poorly cut, but it still looks good. I'm excited.

[Ivan Drago]

Bah, that was the best part. The Wherehouse sequence is going to get my panties in a twist.

That's the one with all the crates (one containing the Ark of the Covenant) isn't it? Because that sequence alone will get my ass in theaters.

[MadMan]

I'm pretty uber psyched for this film after seeing the trailer. Even if this doesn't turn out to be that good of a film at least it will be highly entertaining.

[Sycophant]

I'm pretty uber psyched for this film after seeing the trailer. Even if this doesn't turn out to be that good of a film at least it will be highly entertaining.But what if it isn't?!

[Barty]

But what if it isn't?!

Then I would hang myself by my own whip.

[Ezee E]

Something about it looks strange to me. I can't quite figure it out either. In the way that it's filmed, not the presentation of it.

With that said, the entrance is pretty much perfect though.

Looks like it could end up being Temple of Doom, with Nazis.

[Barty]

Something about it looks strange to me. I can't quite figure it out either. In the way that it's filmed, not the presentation of it.


It's what happens with you cross Slocombe with Kaminski.

[megladon8]

Then I would hang myself by my own whip.


But isn't that part of your Catwoman costume?

I don't know how Indy would feel about that.

[Qrazy]

Something about it looks strange to me. I can't quite figure it out either. In the way that it's filmed, not the presentation of it.

With that said, the entrance is pretty much perfect though.

Looks like it could end up being Temple of Doom, with Nazis.

It's not grainy enough I think. Could use some more earth-y tones too. The colors in the car sequence on the cliff look strange.

[Ezee E]

It's what happens with you cross Slocombe with Kaminski.
That might be it. Good call. It definitely has the look of new Spielberg.

[Barty]

But isn't that part of your Catwoman costume?

I don't know how Indy would feel about that.

You son of a...

[[ETM]]

That trailer is incredibly poorly cut

Agreed. Except for the shots from earlier films... but that had Children of Dune music... which I love, but - for Indy? Really?

[Qrazy]

You son of a...

Huh, I never realized Slocombe was the go to DP for Ealing Studios.

[Barty]

;35795']Agreed. Except for the shots from earlier films... but that had Children of Dune music... which I love, but - for Indy? Really?

I think that was the intention, the CoD music sounds nothing like Williams, so casual audience members might not "get" what movie the trailer is for until the shot of the hat and the Raiders march.

[Spun Lepton]

As a resident Indy fanboy ... I'm really psyched about this.

I must try not to get my expectations up, however. Nothing will ever live up the excitement and awe I had while viewing the first, when I was 11.

But ... oh, man ... that trailer made me giddy.

[MadMan]

But what if it isn't?!It'll probably get a fresh rating just like Rambo did :lol: *shifty eyes*

[Wryan]

MPAA fuckin around with Indy?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35630

[Morris Schæffer]

I noticed nothing strange in that shot. Yeah, I do now, but not before. Nonetheless, how very weird. I know the MPAA can be rigid, but this is oh so very weird.

[Morris Schæffer]

For those who object a little with the quip after the swinging scene, watch the Temple of Doom trailer, especially the very end with the two sword-wielding foes.

http://www.movie-list.net/classics121807/temple-of-doom.mov

It's not a oneliner, but Dr. Jones has had a history of laughing it up in the heat of the moment. The thuggies seen here, as well as the soldiers in the truck, are generic baddies, no match for the fedora-wearing archeologist/parttime teacher. It's not quite the same situation, I know, but there are similarities.

[number8]

I noticed nothing strange in that shot. Yeah, I do now, but not before. Nonetheless, how very weird. I know the MPAA can be rigid, but this is oh so very weird.

I'm not that surprised. All green band trailers have to be rated PG, and they have this rule about guns being pointed at people.

Look at the trailer for Shoot 'Em Up. Not a single shot of anyone pointing a gun at anyone. They only use shots of people pointing guns off camera. It's pretty amazing.

[Morris Schæffer]

Ah ok. I guess you learn something new every day. Then again, this trailer was always going to be more heavily scrutinized than any others and this remains rather inconsequential.

[Watashi]

Final Poster:

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6364/indianjonesfullposteryk5.jpg

[Barty]

:pritch::pritch::pritch:

[Watashi]

It sucks.

/KFan

Sorry. I had to do it.

[Wryan]

Looks badass!

[Rowland]

Blanchett's face looks funny. It may just be the low resolution.

[Wryan]

Blanchett's face looks funny. It may just be the low resolution.

Me love you long time?

[Sxottlan]

My (first?) thoughts on this project:

The trailer did much to remove my doubt about the film. Still, I've been wary of going back to the well one too many times on this one. There's always been a sense of nostalgia with these films and I hope it isn't doubly layered on with it being so many years since the last one. However, I was laughing out loud at the trailer and in awe of the visuals. I too had thought I remembered them saying they were going to do this film with the old fashion effects, so part of my surprise was at seeing the digital work in the trailer.

I remember hearing in one of those bizarre travel programs on the Travel Channel about the crystal skulls and the theory that they these computer digital storehouses of information. I was theorizing it was about Indy entering the digital age. However, now that I'm seeing the final poster, I'm guessing that it's not about those particular artifacts.

[Barty]

Click on the "Cast" section on IndianaJones.com and click on John Hurt. Pretty big spoiler for who he's playing...

Abner Ravenwood

Also Ian McDiarmid is in the film.

[Morris Schæffer]

I ain't clicking that, but I always assumed he was Abner Ravenwood.

[MadMan]

Click on the "Cast" section on IndianaJones.com and click on John Hurt. Pretty big spoiler for who he's playing...

Abner Ravenwood

Also Ian McDiarmid is in the film.The spirit was willing but the flesh was weak. Still actually that spoiler isn't very surprising news.

[Barty]

New Indy photos...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3328/indianajones420yo0.jpg

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/3138/indianajones422ai9.jpg

Sexy.

[Henry Gale]

They're keeping this thing so tightly under wraps that John Hurt said even when he was doing his ADR stuff that they made the footage black and white, out of focus and all jagged on purpose so that he didn't let anything slip.

But um.. wouldn't he have seen those scenes when he read the script or filmed his scenes (aside from effects and that)?

[Sycophant]

But um.. wouldn't he have seen those scenes when he read the script or filmed his scenes (aside from effects and that)?
They wiped the minds of the cast and crew after photography wrapped.

[Barty]

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2008/04/17/indianax-large.jpg

http://www.theraider.net/films/indy4/gallery/screens/ij4_34.jpg

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/4/17/f_EWSpalkom_bb3d376.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/4/17/f_EWMuttm_beef5e5.jpg

[Watashi]

Looks like Ford suffered a stroke during filming.

[SirNewt]

I have to say, though ILM's cg is nice, it always has a certain look to it. One can always tell it's cg and that it's ILM.

[Ezee E]

I wonder if Barty's been planning the schedule of this movie since February.

[Barty]

First Review...?

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/04/jonesah_mr_jone.php


A guy who knows a guy who's on the Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull team has passed along #2's impressions of the finished film. I'm not 100% comfortable running them, given the obvious fact that #2 is a coward, cowering like an eight year-old girl behind the creased khaki slacks of #1, as well as a shill and a spinner, but here goes anyway:

"I felt compelled to write, having just read Anne Thompson's 4.17 Variety column which states that 'the advance buzz on Indy 4 is getting damaging enough that Lucas and Spielberg may want to reconsider the current strategy of waiting until May 18 to show the film...that's a long way off.'

Composer John Williams, Guy #2 says, was initially correct on the Indy 4 running time of 140 minutes, but the film "underwent belt tightening and has been receiving customary tweaking for its final mix."

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull "is the best of the Indy sequels," he declares. "Steven Spielberg's helming puts the imitators (The Mummy, National Treasure) to shame. There are many breakneck set pieces, with a protracted jungle chase being particularly memorable. As well as being evocative of the truck chase from the first movie.

Harrison Ford, he claims, "gives his best performance in the role, not only physically belying his age but layering in welcome poignancy. More than before, audiences will be rooting for Indy. Shia LaBeouf makes essential contributions. Chemistry between he and Ford is palpable, yielding some nice character comedy.

"Jones is particularly beleaguered throughout the adventure, making his predicaments all the more entertaining.

"The film has the strongest supporting cast of the sequels. They all raise the bar. Ray Winstone amuses and fascinates, but the strongest impression is left by Cate Blanchett's Agent Spalko, a characterization that achieves instant cult status.

"Hopefully, the surprises in this film can continue to be guarded. Eventually, these spoilers will get out, but it would be shameful for reviewers and bloggers to reveal an ending that any longtime diehard fan of the films could only dream about. Expect a particularly resounding reaction in the theater.

"Kudos to screenwriter David Koepp for pulling all this together on the page. This will easily be the biggest hit of the year."

[Winston*]

a characterization that achieves instant cult status.

Does this phrase mean anything?

[Kurosawa Fan]

New TV Spot (http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/indianajonesandthekingdomofthe crystalskull/large_tv1.html)

At least it's new to me.

[MadMan]

I wonder if Barty's been planning the schedule of this movie since February.He's probably been planning the schedule since he learned that they were making it. Heh.

[Sxottlan]

I do think it odd that there hasn't been more trailers and commercials on TV. Sure you don't want to over-hype it, but I'd think a little more than they've done is probably a good idea.

[Lasse]

I talked to a guy from Paramount Pictures yesterday, and he said that everyone who's watched the film so far think it's awesome. Paramount are even considering making a sequel with Shia LaBeouf and no Harrison Ford. I hope they don't.

[Ezee E]

I talked to a guy from Paramount Pictures yesterday, and he said that everyone who's watched the film so far think it's awesome. Paramount are even considering making a sequel with Shia LaBeouf and no Harrison Ford. I hope they don't.
As long as Spielberg is doing other movies, I don't care.

[MadMan]

I talked to a guy from Paramount Pictures yesterday, and he said that everyone who's watched the film so far think it's awesome. Paramount are even considering making a sequel with Shia LaBeouf and no Harrison Ford. I hope they don't.I really hope my jokes about them continuing the series with or without Harrison Ford don't actually come true. Yikes.

[Lasse]

I really hope my jokes about them continuing the series with or without Harrison Ford don't actually come true. Yikes.

Yeah, Young Indy was alright as far as I remember, but enough is enough.

[Sxottlan]

In contrast, now it feels like I've seen too much of Iron Man thanks to the trailers.

[Barty]

New TV spot....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSvTNz7q3xc

[MadMan]

New TV spot....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSvTNz7q3xcEh that was decent, although I feel it revealed a bit too much. I'm glad it listed the release date for the film, as I actually forgot what it was recently. Can't get enough of Indy running from pissed off natives I suppose...

[Silencio]

Trailer leaked!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=AaQBEG4fcd4

Holy shit.

[Sven]

Effects overkill. Meh.

[Barty]

Trailer leaked!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=AaQBEG4fcd4

Holy shit.

This movie will rule harder than anything ever in the history of time.

[Watashi]

Yeah, I'm sold.

Still won't be better than WALL-E though

[Morris Schæffer]

I'm seriously contemplating not seeing the new Indy trailer. I'm also reasonably certain I'll fail.

[EvilShoe]

I'm seriously contemplating not seeing the new Indy trailer. I'm also reasonably certain I'll fail.
I'll be doing the same.
So far I've succeeded in not watching any video footage of it at all.

[MadMan]

I'll be doing the same.
So far I've succeeded in not watching any video footage of it at all.The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I've watched pretty much all of the footage linked to in this thread.

[Morris Schæffer]

I'll be doing the same.
So far I've succeeded in not watching any video footage of it at all.

I saw the new trailer before Iron Man tonight so I did fail. The trailer is actually not as memorable as the first teaser and felt dissapointing. I felt little genuine excitement, but to its credit, it also (still) doesn't give away too much of the story.

[Sven]

Seriously, all the CG in the trailer is, like, so not Indy. The glory of Indy and one of its primary appeals over the Star Wars films is its reliance on practical, physical effects. This last trailer made it look like friggin' Sky Captain. Not cool.

[megladon8]

Seriously, all the CG in the trailer is, like, so not Indy. The glory of Indy and one of its primary appeals over the Star Wars films is its reliance on practical, physical effects. This last trailer made it look like friggin' Sky Captain. Not cool.


I agree completely.

Also, didn't they say before filming even began that the film was going to use a very, very small amount of CGI?

This doesn't bode well at all.

[Barty]

This last trailer made it look like friggin' Sky Captain. Not cool.

That's completely insane. It looks like it's barely relying on CGI.

[MadMan]

Honestly I don't give a damn if it uses CGI or not. So long as the FX looks good I don't care. I'm getting tired of waiting for this movie. I want it to come out now.

[Morris Schæffer]

Hi-def trailer:

http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/indianajones/trlr2/Indy_KOTCS_Trailer2_720p.mov

[Sycophant]

Seriously, all the CG in the trailer is, like, so not Indy. The glory of Indy and one of its primary appeals over the Star Wars films is its reliance on practical, physical effects. This last trailer made it look like friggin' Sky Captain. Not cool.
I said pretty much the exact same thing to a friend at the theater today. Has me kinda worried.

[Barty]

First off, there isn't a ton of CGI in the trailer. Second, Indy has relied on visual effects too, not just practical effects.

[Watashi]

The trailer looks absolutely nothing like Sky Captain.

[Sven]

Watching it again, I realize that perhaps the impression I got was left mostly by the last 20 seconds of the trailer, where there is CG everywhere (when things are blowing up, getting crushed, large stones moving, etc).

Still, combine this with a sassy Shia, a lamely accented Cate, a (no doubt) plethora of "I'm old" jokes, and the general disinterest I have in a new installation of any franchise, and you have a very wary iosos.

But I likes the 'berg, so I'll see it.

[number8]

This new trailer is shitty. Amazingly shitty.

[Morris Schæffer]

This new trailer is shitty. Amazingly shitty.

I ain't quite feeling the magic either.

[Sycophant]

I'm going into this with about the level of expectations and apprehension I did for Revenge of the Sith.

[Dukefrukem]

is this trailer online anywhere else? they removed it from yt

[Ezee E]

This new trailer is shitty. Amazingly shitty.
Sadly I agree.

My expectations are lowering every day.

[Morris Schæffer]

Sadly I agree.

My expectations are lowering every day.

Goddamit. Sucks to have that feeling eh? I mean, this is Indiana Jones ferchrissakes!! Still, let's not despair just yet.

[Watashi]

Barty is going to be so alone when he declares it the greatest film ever made.

[megladon8]

I still find the use of CGI a bit off-putting.

Especially for simple stuff, like skylines and backgrounds during driving scenes.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I still find the use of CGI a bit off-putting.

Especially for simple stuff, like skylines and backgrounds during driving scenes.

From what I understand, a lot of the film was done in-studio, since that was one of the Berg's conditions for coming back to the franchise. What's odd is how bright and colorful this adventure feels. The other ones looked and felt like Indiana's weathered leather jacket.

[MadMan]

Barty is going to be so alone when he declares it the greatest film ever made.Pretty much.

I'm trying to go in with no expectations. But its hard since its Indy.

[Dukefrukem]

any chance the CGI everyone's complaining about is just unfinished post-production stuff?

[DavidSeven]

It just looks kind of sad.

[Barty]

Soundtrack samples. :pritch::pritch::pritch::pritc h::pritch:

http://www.amazon.com/Indiana-Jones-Kingdom-Crystal-Skull/dp/B00193EGNY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1210174484&sr=8-3

[Scar]

I'm glad that I don't get uber-hyped for movies, 'cause this still looks perfectly fine to me.

[Grouchy]

I'm glad that I don't get uber-hyped for movies, 'cause this still looks perfectly fine to me.
Me too. I agree about the CGI looking crappy at times in the trailer, mostly a couple of explosions.

But that's it. I'm still super-hyped. It's a fucking Indiana Jones movie.

[Ezee E]

Saw the trailer in the theater, and I'm really hoping it's just a crappy trailer instead of a crappy movie. The trailer really just shows off brief clips without anything important being shown. Yes, we see Cate, Shia, and Indy's girl. There's action. And there's the title. That's basically all we get.

Its just that it all looks so weird though. As if its 300 almost, shot all around a green screen.

[Morris Schæffer]

Ezee E, I agree that locations-wise, this looks like the worst of the Jones adventures.

[Morris Schæffer]

Soundtrack samples. :pritch::pritch::pritch::pritc h::pritch:

http://www.amazon.com/Indiana-Jones-Kingdom-Crystal-Skull/dp/B00193EGNY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1210174484&sr=8-3

I gotta ask. How do you really feel about this third sequel Barty? It looks like you've taken up the role of Indiana Jones uber-fan on this board with seemingly infinite enthusiasm. Are you just playing a role here or are you genuinely persuaded of its greatness? Oh, I do hope you're right by the way.:)

[Watashi]

I gotta ask. How do you really feel about this third sequel Barty? It looks like you've taken up the role of Indiana Jones uber-fan on this board with seemingly infinite enthusiasm. Are you just playing a role here or are you genuinely persuaded of its greatness? Oh, I do hope you're right by the way.:)
Dude... you don't even want to know.

Barty thinks that Indy IV will rival the Second Coming in greatness.

[lovejuice]

Dude... you don't even want to know.

Barty thinks that Indy IV will rival the Second Coming in greatness.

i don't share his optimism, but if they do it right (which i doubt at this point), this will be the greatest movie event of the 21st century so far. (nothing much to beat during those 8 years. :P)

[Kurosawa Fan]

New Trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/indianajonesandthekingdomofthe crystalskull/large_t3.html)

EDIT: So we're dealing with aliens and zombies. Hmm.

[Raiders]

New Trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/indianajonesandthekingdomofthe crystalskull/large_t3.html)

EDIT: So we're dealing with aliens and zombies. Hmm.

Still looks pretty good. But, where are the aliens? I still don't see evidence of them in the trailer.

[Sven]

Still looks pretty good. But, where are the aliens? I still don't see evidence of them in the trailer.

The crop figures!!

[Raiders]

The crop figures!!

Yeah, that's what I figured. Still, seems like the aliens angle would have been revealed by now. But, I wait in anticipation either way.

[Watashi]

The crop figures!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_lines

I thought so too, but Barty showed me that.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Still looks pretty good. But, where are the aliens? I still don't see evidence of them in the trailer.

The crop circles, and that crystal skull also looked extraterrestrial. Still, maybe it's just zombies.

[megladon8]

I find it strange that the trailer begins with Indy talking about the crystal skull, and how it's made of solid gold.

That's some of the most transluscent gold I've ever seen.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Also, to help confirm the aliens in the film, in the first trailer there's a shot of a box labeled "Roswell, NM". Seems they'll be a part of the film in some fashion or another.

[Ezee E]

When did the UFO allegedly crash in Roswell? Because this movie takes place in the 50's I think.

[Kurosawa Fan]

When did the UFO allegedly crash in Roswell? Because this movie takes place in the 50's I think.

1947.

[Barty]

When did the UFO allegedly crash in Roswell? Because this movie takes place in the 50's I think.

Spoilers for opening sequence:

The opening teaser is the warehouse sequence where Spalko is trying to steal the Roswell remains from Area 51

[Morris Schæffer]

If Spielberg can make Aliens, or the mere idea of extra-terrestrial life, as unforgettable as in "Close Encounters" then I'm really not concerned.

[Sxottlan]

I find it strange that the trailer begins with Indy talking about the crystal skull, and how it's made of solid gold.

That's some of the most transluscent gold I've ever seen.

I believe Indy said the city the skull was taken from was made of solid gold, not the skull itself.

[lovejuice]

this new trailer is slightly better.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I just read a quote on TV from George Lucas that said that a fifth Indy film is already being discussed. It'd be nice if once in awhile people weren't so predictable.

*sigh*

[number8]

Seeing this tomorrow morning. I'm completely unexcited for it. I even considered skipping the screening to see the Bay to Breakers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_to_Breakers) instead.

[Barty]

Seeing this tomorrow morning. I'm completely unexcited for it. I even considered skipping the screening to see the Bay to Breakers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_to_Breakers) instead.

Fuck you.

[Qrazy]

Seeing this tomorrow morning. I'm completely unexcited for it. I even considered skipping the screening to see the Bay to Breakers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_to_Breakers) instead.

Come on now, Spielberg is always formally exciting even when he has thematic or narrative missteps.

[transmogrifier]

Come on now, Spielberg is always formally exciting even when he has thematic or narrative missteps.


See, I don't find him formally exciting in the least. Highly skilled, yes. Exciting, no.

[Sxottlan]

I find it curious how sentiment here regarding this film appears to have turned against it.

Right now I think the movie's unnecessary, but I'll still check it out.

[Watashi]

Early reviews haven't been favorable (got a mild reception from Cannes and has a 63% on RT so far).

[Ezee E]

The idea excited everyone at first, but the more footage and photos we saw, the less excited everyone got because it certainly isn't Batman.

Barty remains dedicated and loyal though.

[Barty]

Well, it got applause at Cannes. That's a good sign considering the last few years of blockbusters have gotten trashed.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080518/121114306200.html

[Watashi]

Again, Clerks 2 got applause.

[Ezee E]

Well, it got applause at Cannes. That's a good sign considering the last few years of blockbusters have gotten trashed.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080518/121114306200.html
Any review you glance over though says it's pretty ho-hum with a few good action sequences.

[Barty]

Any review you glance over though says it's pretty ho-hum with a few good action sequences.

Um, no. Most of the positive reviews are very positive and says it's just like the previous three.

[Ezee E]

Um, no. Most of the positive reviews are very positive and says it's just like the previous three.
Keep telling yourself that.

[number8]

Meh.

[Sycophant]

Meh.Oh dear.

I'm having such a hard time imaging myself getting motivated enough to get out of my apartment to go see this. Particularly when I could at the last minute choose to see Speed Racer again.

[Grouchy]

I just wanna say I'm still "motivated" enough to go watch a fucking Indiana Jones film opening day.

Unlike you bunch of party killing worms.

[Scar]

I just wanna say I'm still "motivated" enough to go watch a fucking Indiana Jones film opening day.

Unlike you bunch of party killing worms.

I'll still see it in theatres.

[Ezee E]

I'll still see it in theatres.
I'm still definitely seeing it in theaters. It IS Spielberg. I just have Speed Racer expectations instead of Dark Knight.

[number8]

It's not terrible, but kind of boring, looks very fakely CGI-ed, with very out of place aliens and all the funny bits are wink-wink references to the previous movies.

In other words, it's almost exactly how we all expected it to be.

[Qrazy]

See, I don't find him formally exciting in the least. Highly skilled, yes. Exciting, no.

Yeah but that's because you suck at life.

And you're ugly.

;)

[Watashi]

I want this movie to be out already.

Not to see it really, but so I don't have to listen to Barty splooge about it every minute of the day.

[Watashi]

But seriously, every one of you will see this in theaters. I mean... it's Indiana Jones.

[Qrazy]

But seriously, every one of you will see this in theaters. I mean... it's Indiana Jones.

I won't... it's poverty.

[EyesWideOpen]

But seriously, every one of you will see this in theaters. I mean... it's Indiana Jones.


I won't. It's another one of those 80's movie trilogys (like Star Wars & Back to the Future) that do absolutely nothing for me. I've watched them all over again as an adult and the nostalgia factor isn't enough for me to consider them great films.

[Sxottlan]

Ebert's positive review (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080518/REVIEWS/969461084) is up.

[Watashi]

I won't. It's another one of those 80's movie trilogys (like Star Wars & Back to the Future) that do absolutely nothing for me. I've watched them all over again as an adult and the nostalgia factor isn't enough for me to consider them great films.
Uh, huh. And Die Hard is a terrible film, right?

Oh wait.