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SpaceOddity
11-07-2007, 06:18 AM
Anyone a fan?

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3810/87lu6.jpg

*craves*

SpaceOddity
11-07-2007, 05:46 PM
*launches into rendition of 'All by Myself'*

Kurosawa Fan
11-07-2007, 05:49 PM
I've always wanted to watch this show, but never got around to it.

SpaceOddity
11-07-2007, 05:57 PM
I've always wanted to watch this show, but never got around to it.

You must. *insists* David Tennant's incarnation of the Doctor is my ideal.
*pines*

Sycophant
11-07-2007, 05:59 PM
I've always wanted to watch this show, but never got around to it.Ditto. It seems like the sort of thing I should/would be into, but I've just never really tried it.

Kurosawa Fan
11-07-2007, 06:10 PM
You must. *insists* David Tennant's incarnation of the Doctor is my ideal.
*pines*

Is this a new series? I thought it was rather old. If it's a newer version, I haven't seen either. Should I watch one over the other?

Raiders
11-07-2007, 06:18 PM
I have seen many episodes of the original series. The new series, which had Christopher Eccleston as the doctor for the first season, I haven't seen much of. I have seen a couple with Tennant and he is quite good. Though, if I'm not mistaken, isn't it time for another regeneration?

Henry Gale
11-07-2007, 07:35 PM
My family loves it, have seen all of the new episodes and have the first two seasons on DVD. I've never actually sat down and watched all of them, but from what I've seen both Eccleston and Tennant are superb but some episodes are more monster-of-the-week than anything actually essential to a bigger plot (especially in season 3).

Of all the episodes I've seen though, my favourite has to be the standalone episode "Blink" written by Steven Moffat. It maybe has only two full scenes or so with the Doctor, but on its own it's just a fantastic piece of television (for sci-fi and horror especially) set in the universe of the show.

It may be not be huge in North America, but it really seems to be like the biggest thing over in the UK from what little news bits about it I come across.

SpaceOddity
11-07-2007, 08:01 PM
I have seen a couple with Tennant and he is quite good. Though, if I'm not mistaken, isn't it time for another regeneration?

*straps bomb to self*

SpaceOddity
11-07-2007, 08:16 PM
Is this a new series? I thought it was rather old. If it's a newer version, I haven't seen either. Should I watch one over the other?

The old one ran for the 60s-80s. It was resurrected a couple of years ago.
You should definately watch the David Tennant episodes. I'm sure your family would love them.

*nods*

MadMan
11-08-2007, 12:15 AM
I've seen some of the old series thanks to PBS reruns. I've seen most of Season 1 of the new series also thanks to PBS, and some of Season 3 (or was it 4?) since I have the Sci-Fi channel. Its pretty good stuff for the most part, but nothing that I love dearly or really want to catch up on.

monolith94
11-09-2007, 12:54 PM
As my avatar should indicate, I'm a pretty huge fan, especially of the old series. When I was a kid, I remember having to plead with my parents to stay up late enough to watch new hampshire public television to watch the Doctor.

The conceit of the show was what really captured my imagination. Traveling through time and space with a genius alien in a funky spaceship. When I was a kid, all I could say was wow! And his pacifist tendencies were really the thing that made me respect him. Always the ethicist, that Doctor. I also grew up watching Anthony Ainsley as the Master: his brand of villainy was just so much fun.

SpaceOddity
11-09-2007, 04:38 PM
As my avatar should indicate, I'm a pretty huge fan, especially of the old series. When I was a kid, I remember having to plead with my parents to stay up late enough to watch new hampshire public television to watch the Doctor.

The conceit of the show was what really captured my imagination. Traveling through time and space with a genius alien in a funky spaceship. When I was a kid, all I could say was wow! And his pacifist tendencies were really the thing that made me respect him. Always the ethicist, that Doctor. I also grew up watching Anthony Ainsley as the Master: his brand of villainy was just so much fun.

I was a fanatic as a child, too. Jon Pertwee was my fave, though. *shocks*
Who was your second fave Doctor?
Have you seen the new version? What's your opinion?
Btw, watch this...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_qZUpb8Pz9c

*utilises opportunity for pic of David Tennant*

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/341/127xb0.jpg

[ETM]
11-09-2007, 11:39 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/sf_anime/who160x90.jpg

SpaceOddity
11-10-2007, 03:50 AM
;4105']http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/sf_anime/who160x90.jpg

Is that ETM from icine?

Thank you for the av. Fits perfectly with my username.
*nods*

[ETM]
11-10-2007, 11:08 AM
Is that ETM from icine?

The one and only. Glad you like it.

monolith94
11-12-2007, 03:44 AM
I was a fanatic as a child, too. Jon Pertwee was my fave, though. *shocks*
Who was your second fave Doctor?
Have you seen the new version? What's your opinion?
Btw, watch this...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_qZUpb8Pz9c

*utilises opportunity for pic of David Tennant*

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/341/127xb0.jpg
Pertwee would probably be my second favorite. I always thought that Peter Davidson was kind of cool though too.

I do like the new series, and I think that Tennant is probably a better fit than Eccleston. Although it's good to have both serious and funny doctors. Pertwee was mostly serious, whereas Baker was more lighthearted. Really, the role calls for alternating actorly abilities.

MadMan
11-12-2007, 04:17 AM
Tom Baker is the one I've seen the most of, and I love him as the Doctor. Eccleston it seems came pretty damn close to capturing that same spirit. And Tenent has been pretty badass, but also capable of showing the same cheaky spirit that makes the Doctor such a great character. I wonder what pretty lady will join the Doctor in his travels next-the guy seems to always have a foxy lady by his side. He's got pimp status man.

SpaceOddity
11-16-2007, 07:18 AM
I wonder what pretty lady will join the Doctor in his travels next-the guy seems to always have a foxy lady by his side. He's got pimp status man.

Kylie

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/voaygeofdamned.jpg

SpaceOddity
11-17-2007, 11:14 AM
Anyone see the children in need special? It were crap.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yn_NDKNlUa8

[ETM]
11-17-2007, 11:59 AM
Why were it crap? I liked it.

SpaceOddity
11-17-2007, 04:06 PM
I don't like Peter Davison's incarnation of the Doctor.

*DT zealot*

monolith94
11-17-2007, 06:09 PM
Peter Davidson had the right tone down, I think, for the Doctor, and had the right look, but he was never supported by the best scripts.

Also, his performance in that children in need video isn't really indicative of his normal doctor performance. Much more curmudgeonly, also he's getting old and fat.

SpaceOddity
11-27-2007, 09:34 PM
Rose's returning!!!! *victory dance*

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7114699.stm


Billie Piper to return to Dr Who
Actress Billie Piper is to return to Doctor Who, the BBC has confirmed.
She will star in three episodes of the sci-fi drama, reprising her role as the Doctor's companion, Rose Tyler.

Rose's return will mean the Doctor has three assistants in next year's series - Donna, played by Catherine Tate, and Freema Agyeman as Martha.

The new series begins in March and will run for 13 episodes. There will be three special editions in 2009 before the show takes a break until 2010.

Piper left Doctor Who last year, when Rose was transported into a parallel universe.

SpaceOddity
12-03-2007, 07:14 AM
John Simm could be the next Doctor!

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/2007/11/12/john-simm-tipped-to-be-new-doctor-who-91466-20096490/


THE man hotly tipped to take over from David Tennant as the next Doctor Who may have to come back from the dead before he starts.

Speculation is growing that John Simm, most famous for his starring role in the 1970s cop show Life on Mars, will take up residence in the Tardis when its current occupant leaves the role.

But the 35-year-old has already appeared in the cult series earlier this year as the Master, one of the Doctor’s greatest adversaries.

He appeared to die at the end of the episode, but after being cremated on a funeral pyre, a female hand could be seen picking up a ring belonging to the character from the ashes, to the sound of the Master’s maniacal laughter, prompting fans to speculate that the character will in face return to the show.

If Simm is to return in any guise, the show’s writers would either have to explain his resurrection or add him in another way.

And if he is indeed to return as the Doctor, an even more ingenious explanation will be required to account for his transformation from the Timelord’s sworn enemy to the central character himself – unless, of course, their facial similarities are entirely glossed over.

But Elaine Penn, features editor of TV Choice magazine and a huge Doctor Who fan, said the writers would not worry about the producing an apparently implausible storyline to explain the transformation.

She said, “To have someone who played such a major role in the series already to come back as the Doctor could be a little confusing for people, especially children.

“But anything is possible, that’s the wonderful thing about Doctor Who, anything goes.

“We have already seen the Doctor’s assistant supposedly killed off, only to come back in a later show.”

Simm may indeed have the right contacts to land the show’s main role, having already worked on Life on Mars, which, like Doctor Who, is a BBC Wales production.

But Ms Penn said she thought it was still a little premature to be suggesting names to replace Tennant in 2009, when he is expected to leave the show.

She added, “Maybe it’s a little too early to say for definite who it will be. If John Simm has been photographed on the set there is nothing to say he couldn’t just be coming back as one of the Doctor’s enemies.”

Tennant is currently filming the fourth series of the award-winning show in Cardiff with comedian Catherine Tate as his sidekick.

The series will be aired in 2008 with three specials planned for 2009 but Tennant has agreed to play Hamlet with the Royal Shakespeare Company so may finish with his role as the Doctor.

The BBC’s search for a replacement has led to heavy speculation about the identity of Tennant’s successor, with Simm now appearing favourite to take the role.

An unnamed BBC source was quoted in a London-based papers yesterday saying, “John is absolutely over the moon. He’s got a six-year-old son who is a massive Doctor Who fan and can’t believe his dad is going to get to fly the Tardis at work.

“John is a superb actor and will follow in the footsteps of David Tennant and Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor.”

EvilShoe
12-03-2007, 12:50 PM
If John Simm is the new Doctor Who, I will start watching the show on a regular basis. Simm is God.

SpaceOddity
12-03-2007, 01:44 PM
If John Simm is the new Doctor Who, I will start watching the show on a regular basis. Simm is God.

Did you watch him as the Master?

*approved*

EvilShoe
12-03-2007, 01:57 PM
Did you watch him as the Master?

*approved*
I Youtube'd his scenes. :|
Fun stuff.

I do like David Tennant, though. Saw him on Blackpool a while back, where he was definitely the stand out.

SpaceOddity
12-03-2007, 08:20 PM
I Youtube'd his scenes. :|
Fun stuff.

I do like David Tennant, though. Saw him on Blackpool a while back, where he was definitely the stand out.

I don't want DT to leave.

*mourns*

monolith94
12-05-2007, 02:00 PM
Have the same actor play both the master and the doctor? No thanks.

SpaceOddity
12-30-2007, 07:09 PM
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23428478-details/Jennifer+Saunders+tipped+as+th e+next+Dr+Who/article.do

*puts fingers in ears and lalalas*

MadMan
01-07-2008, 06:21 PM
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23428478-details/Jennifer+Saunders+tipped+as+th e+next+Dr+Who/article.do

*puts fingers in ears and lalalas*What the hell? This is odd. I'm not sure what to think of that.

Saya
05-14-2008, 03:27 PM
Just wanted to say that I watched the first episode of the 2005 series last night and I really liked it. I'll definitely check out the rest of the series. Eccleston and Piper were both excellent!

Mara
05-14-2008, 04:15 PM
I've been watching the new series very recently. I never really saw the old one, except in bits and pieces as a child.

Anyway, I'm up to the third season. The new series started out a little silly and cheap-looking, but has really smoothed into an enjoyable ride. David Tennant is brilliant.

I'm also a big fan (maybe even bigger) of the spin-off Torchwood. Two words: Captain Jack.

Saya
05-19-2008, 08:09 PM
The second episode was ok. The aliens looked cheap, but then again they did have a certain charm to it.

Mara
05-20-2008, 08:37 PM
I just saw the episode "Blink," which was awesome, but now I'm afraid of weeping angels and I think I need to change my avatar.

SpaceOddity
06-24-2008, 06:09 AM
I've been watching the new series very recently. I never really saw the old one, except in bits and pieces as a child.

Anyway, I'm up to the third season. The new series started out a little silly and cheap-looking, but has really smoothed into an enjoyable ride. David Tennant is brilliant.

I'm also a big fan (maybe even bigger) of the spin-off Torchwood. Two words: Captain Jack.


Jack doesn't age so well...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Faceofboe.jpg

[ETM]
06-24-2008, 04:20 PM
The season 4 finale is gonna be so awesome.:pritch:

BAD WOLF.

SpaceOddity
06-24-2008, 04:49 PM
;75032']The season 4 finale is gonna be so awesome.:pritch:

BAD WOLF.

I can't wait for them to be reunited. *hyper*


http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/mobile/288/doctor_rose3.jpg

SpaceOddity
06-26-2008, 08:14 PM
It never made sense how the daleks were able to build fleets etc considering they have neither hands, telekinesis, or slaves. *shrug*

monolith94
06-26-2008, 08:23 PM
The daleks have those sucker things that they can use to manipulate objects.

In anycase, saw the episode Silence in the Library last friday night, can't wait to see the follow up tomorrow night. Definitely a much better quality of Who episode, that was.

SpaceOddity
06-26-2008, 08:37 PM
The daleks have those sucker things that they can use to manipulate objects.

But, the episode in 1930s New York demonstrated their ineffectiveness cos they required minions to create their constructions. And, yet, slaves don't seem to be common usage.

Evolution >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davros

*nods*

monolith94
06-27-2008, 03:36 AM
I haven't seen that episode. I like the new series, but I'm not as diligent about catching episodes of it as I was with the old series. Tom Baker ftw!

SpaceOddity
06-27-2008, 10:38 AM
I haven't seen that episode. I like the new series, but I'm not as diligent about catching episodes of it as I was with the old series. Tom Baker ftw!

You know Davros is back.

SpaceOddity
06-28-2008, 07:03 PM
*furious*

SpaceOddity
07-05-2008, 07:36 PM
The finale were crap.

*torches BBC*

monolith94
10-31-2008, 08:21 PM
Not sure if I've seen the finale…

All I want to see is that if they continue the series beyond Tennant, I think that they should turn to an older actor for variety. Principally, I'm thinking:

http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/k/S/P/pirates3prem52.jpg

MadMan
11-04-2008, 03:57 AM
I finally saw the end of Season 2. Great stuff. And I got my hands on Season 3. I've seen the finale to that and a few other episodes, but nothing else from it. I did catch the first two-three episodes of Season 4, though.

MadMan
11-06-2008, 02:16 AM
Okay, right now I'm up to "Human Nature." So far its very good, maybe even great. None of the episodes have been bad or weak at all, which is remarkable. This weekend I'll also hopefully get back to watching more of Season 2. There's some episodes from it I haven't viewed yet. Season 1 to me is good/solid, but kind of unremarkable in some areas. Season 2 appears to be quite good. I've only seen the first two episodes of Season 4, but I liked what I saw. Rose may be the best companion the Doctor's had during the show's run, but Martha is my favorite. Hopefully I'll be able to see Season 4 relatively soon.

monolith94
11-06-2008, 02:57 AM
Rose may be the best companion the Doctor's had during the show's run, but Martha is my favorite. Hopefully I'll be able to see Season 4 relatively soon.

http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal1/orly_peterlorre.jpg

I beg to differ. Nothing against Rose but can she really compare…

to Peri?
http://www.scifiscience.co.uk/img/drwho/peri.jpg

or Leela?
http://www.doctorwhoworld.org.uk/Images/sitegraphics/leela.jpg

eh?

MadMan
11-06-2008, 03:09 AM
http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal1/orly_peterlorre.jpg

I beg to differ. Nothing against Rose but can she really compare…

to Peri?
http://www.scifiscience.co.uk/img/drwho/peri.jpg

or Leela?
http://www.doctorwhoworld.org.uk/Images/sitegraphics/leela.jpg

eh?I'm talking about the current show's run. Not the old show. And from what I've seen in the past with the older show, I do agree.

SpaceOddity
04-04-2010, 07:15 AM
Am sueing BBC over my fist shaking injuries. *nods*
I like 'em Romantic. David Tennant lost a Paradise. Matt Smith lost his marbles.

MadMan
04-04-2010, 07:21 AM
Waters of Mars was quite good. Now to finally get my hands on End of Time Parts 1 and 2 without having to actually pay way too much money. I like the idea of just waiting until the seasons end and then renting them on Netflix, so I can just speed through them.

SpaceOddity
04-04-2010, 07:22 AM
Also, tis odd to cast an underage-looking lass as a stripper sidekick.

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/matt-smith-in-costume-as-the-new-doctor-who.jpg

Mara
04-04-2010, 02:21 PM
She's supposed to be a stripper? That is odd.

I think she's extremely pretty, though.

SpaceOddity
04-04-2010, 02:44 PM
She's supposed to be a stripper? That is odd.

I think she's extremely pretty, though.

*shakes head*

Looks like a pumpkin on a pole.

Mara
04-04-2010, 02:51 PM
*shakes head*

Looks like a pumpkin on a pole.

Awww.

I'm a sucker for freckles.

SpaceOddity
04-04-2010, 02:53 PM
Awww.

I'm a sucker for freckles.

They make me wanna reach for my biro.

*brandishes*

Mara
04-04-2010, 02:56 PM
They make me wanna reach for my biro.

*brandishes*

I may be a little rusty on my English idioms, but I swear that means "pen."

(checks)

Yeah, it means "pen." Are you going to play connect-the-dots?

SpaceOddity
04-04-2010, 03:07 PM
I may be a little rusty on my English idioms, but I swear that means "pen."

(checks)

Yeah, it means "pen." Are you going to play connect-the-dots?

Yep. Never had them books as a child. Used ginger kids.
Am in nostalgic mood. ;)

[ETM]
04-04-2010, 04:56 PM
Amy Pond is adorable, I love her already.
The Doctor is still badass.

"I am the Doctor.

Basically... run."

...had me grinning for a long time.
:pritch:

SpaceOddity
04-04-2010, 05:10 PM
;253117']Amy Pond is adorable, I love her already.
The Doctor is still badass.

"I am the Doctor.

Basically... run."

...had me grinning for a long time.
:pritch:

Lass can't act. Just looks like someone's pinched her bum.

[ETM]
04-04-2010, 05:45 PM
Lass can't act. Just looks like someone's pinched her bum.

I like her acting just fine. I liked it the last time she was on the show, too.

SpaceOddity
04-04-2010, 05:57 PM
;253135']I like her acting just fine. I liked it the last time she was on the show, too.

I'm not keen on virtuoso gawping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpbmMhNe6aA

Good thing they avoided 'nutty professor' and 'feisty redhead' cliches. ;)

[ETM]
04-04-2010, 06:07 PM
I'm not keen on virtuoso gawping.

You love sending us to dictionary websites, don't you?

I'm pretty certain I'd be... gawping just like that in the same circumstances.:P

Mara
04-05-2010, 12:07 AM
THAT. WAS. AWESOME.

Little Amy can act just fine, and I'm upgrading her from pretty to stunning.

The doctor really seems good so far-- very confident, good mix of funny and fascinating. He seems more confrontational than the last doctor.

Mara
04-05-2010, 12:22 AM
Also, Jeff (Geoff?) looked like Captain Awesome from Chuck.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 12:45 AM
Also, Jeff (Geoff?) looked like Captain Awesome from Chuck.

I think that was the idea.:lol: The whole scene in his room was bizarrely hilarious.

Mara
04-05-2010, 02:59 AM
I loved it so much, I just watched it again and tried to get my mom to watch with me.

She didn't dig it. (I should have guessed.) But still. Awesome.

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 08:29 AM
THAT. WAS. AWESOME.

Little Amy can act just fine, and I'm upgrading her from pretty to stunning.

The doctor really seems good so far-- very confident, good mix of funny and fascinating. He seems more confrontational than the last doctor.

Nah. She's a clock-faced, stilts-legged bint.

Twas Moffat-by-numbers.
I ain't watching Who again.

*disgusted*

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 10:48 AM
The 10th Doctor and Rose are my favourite characters ever.
They've been ousted by a Thunderbirds puppet and a sex doll.
And a sex doll with two settings - yell and gawp.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 10:58 AM
My least favorite Doctor Who fans are those who classify the Doctors and companions. I read a comment yesterday where someone stated that Smith is immediately better than the previous two, easily... which still puts him at No. 9

I quickly stepped away.

And Moffat by the numbers is still about 5x better than any of the Davies' best efforts, thank you.

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 11:02 AM
;253277']My least favorite Doctor Who fans are those who classify the Doctors and companions. I read a comment yesterday where someone stated that Smith is immediately better than the previous two, easily... which still puts him at No. 9

I quickly stepped away.

And Moffat by the numbers is still about 5x better than any of the Davies' best efforts, thank you.

Well ain't that a shame. :p

RTD created characters. Moffat incarnated cliches.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 11:42 AM
RTD created characters. Moffat incarnated cliches.

RTD never had the creativity needed to take the Doctor to places he could go. He had these great characters and kept running in circles, bringing back old villain after old villain, time after time, each time seeming more desperate. Especially the Christmas Specials - if every single one of Davies' specials disappeared, and were never seen by anyone again, the show would actually improve by a great margin overall.

But please, do explain what you mean by "cliches"? And based on what exactly? One episode?

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 12:19 PM
;253280']RTD never had the creativity needed to take the Doctor to places he could go. He had these great characters and kept running in circles, bringing back old villain after old villain, time after time, each time seeming more desperate. Especially the Christmas Specials - if every single one of Davies' specials disappeared, and were never seen by anyone again, the show would actually improve by a great margin overall.

But please, do explain what you mean by "cliches"? And based on what exactly? One episode?

The 'nutty professor' and 'feisty redhead'. Not even top shelf cliches.
He should've borrowed a stool and reached higher.

You've also assessed the new Doctor and companion on a single episode.

Mara
04-05-2010, 12:48 PM
You've also assessed the new Doctor and companion on a single episode.

Well... we all have. You don't like them, we do (so far.)

Katiescarlett
04-05-2010, 03:28 PM
I'm also a David Tennant obsessed fan but I'm gonna give Matt Smith a fair chance mainly because I remember being upset when David took over for Chris.

I love Rose, I loved the whole Rose/Doctor love but I have to admit that Donna was the strongest companion.

I have to wait for my sister-in-law to get back from Florida before I get to see the new epi. I will weigh in when that happens.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 05:33 PM
The 'nutty professor' and 'feisty redhead'. Not even top shelf cliches.
He should've borrowed a stool and reached higher.

I don't see them like that at all. He may be dressed as one, but I don't see where you see the behavior. Also, she's a redhead but no sign of the cliche. We can discuss this further if you like but I'd rather, you know, give it a few episodes.


You've also assessed the new Doctor and companion on a single episode.

I haven't. I just like him so far, because I was prejudiced - until I actually saw him in action, he just didn't... look right to me. That hurdle is out of the way for me now, but you sound like you really want him to be bad.

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 06:31 PM
She's argumentative and yells frequently. (Even in the Doctor's face.) Not to mention, hitting him round the head with a cricket bat and handcuffing him to a radiator. Then she locks the Doctor's tie in a car door, trapping him whilst interrogating him. She tells friends to 'shut up'. And we learn that she spent her childhood biting shrinks.
Does all that equate to placid for you?

She's a thug-ess. :p ASBO Amy.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 07:17 PM
So it's either placid or feisty?

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 07:18 PM
;253358']So it's either placid or feisty?

What word would you use for such behaviour?
You haven't offered a counter-argument.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 07:57 PM
What word would you use for such behaviour?
You haven't offered a counter-argument.

I'd call her interesting. You're clinging onto superficial details from a chaotic episode. I'm drooling at the prospects for the future of her complicated yet heartbreaking connection to the Doctor.

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 08:00 PM
;253369']I'd call her interesting. You're clinging onto superficial details from a chaotic episode. I'm drooling at the prospects for the future of her complicated yet heartbreaking connection to the Doctor.

Well, the creators of the show call her feisty.

Executive producer of Doctor Who (Piers Wenger) : "The whole kissogram thing played into Steven's desire for the companion to be feisty and outspoken and a bit of a number."

*rests case* :D

Prospects are hypothetical. Try evaluating the evidence so far. :p
And that 'connection' was recycled from another of Moffat's episodes.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 08:30 PM
You can rest your case all you want, you're pretty much the only person I know who thinks that way, which is great. My girlfriend is absolutely bonkers over the Doctor and Amy.

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 08:43 PM
;253378']You can rest your case all you want, you're pretty much the only person I know who thinks that way, which is great. My girlfriend is absolutely bonkers over the Doctor and Amy.

She's even called feisty on her BBC page.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/characters/Amy_Pond
Tis official. She's a 'feisty redhead' cliche.

And guess which old villian returns in the third episode?

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 09:35 PM
She's even called feisty on her BBC page.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/characters/Amy_Pond
Tis official. She's a 'feisty redhead' cliche.

I'll just roll my eyes and, you know, give up::rolleyes:


And guess which old villian returns in the third episode?

You're persistent, aren't you? I know all about the old villains. I don't care. You can bring back the Daleks and the Cybermen and Davros and Sontarans a million times, but don't do it in an utterly stupid way, which is what Davies did more than once.

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 09:53 PM
;253391']I'll just roll my eyes and, you know, give up::rolleyes:


Does it take a lot of practise to become this patronising? Seriously, you could represent your country. Well, as long as you've maintained your amateur status. Have you accepted payment for your services? :p

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 10:00 PM
Does it take a lot of practise to become this patronising?

I'm not patronising at all. I just realized I don't need this conversation at all, as I have my views, you have your own, and you're much more stubborn in these matters so I honestly and sincerely gave up, and don't intend to talk about this ever again. The rest of your post makes zero sense to me, so I didn't address it.

SpaceOddity
04-05-2010, 10:03 PM
You're terribly patronising. Maybe you don't realise. With that remark about your 'least favourite Doctor Who fans' you could Tardis yourself back to the days when being patronising was an Olympic event and get yourself a gold.

[ETM]
04-05-2010, 11:06 PM
Okay, I'm patronising and we do not agree. There is no way we will agree on this, so I'm dropping the subject forever. For the third time. But for real. I promise.

MadMan
04-06-2010, 01:04 AM
Wake me up when you two are done yammering :P

Winston*
04-06-2010, 01:18 AM
Wake me up when you two are done yammering :P

With that kind of banter maybe they should be the new Doctor and companion.

Katiescarlett
04-06-2010, 06:18 AM
With that kind of banter maybe they should be the new Doctor and companion.


Ah yes, I can feel the tension in their angry relationship :)



So everyone, I just realized I need to take a pic of my new Doctor Who Paraphernalia that I just got!

Oh and I cannot talk KFan into watching Doctor Who with me because of how obsessed with it I got. (and in turn his sister since I made her watch it and all we do is talk about it when we are together)

MadMan
04-06-2010, 06:40 AM
With that kind of banter maybe they should be the new Doctor and companion.Without question. Then they'll go on fighting Darlaks, running into the Weeping Angels, and posting random thoughts on some movie message board. While arguing heavily about all of this, of course.

[ETM]
04-06-2010, 10:11 AM
Wake me up when you two are done yammering :P

I'd tell you that we're done, but I already did, FOUR TIMES.

And it's Daleks, infidel.

MadMan
04-06-2010, 06:15 PM
;253530']I'd tell you that we're done, but I already did, FOUR TIMES.Heh. Sure you guys are done...:P


And it's Daleks, infidel.So I misspelled the name of a group of fictional characters that don't even exist, plus they aren't even the coolest bunch of villians in Dr. Who history (that would be the Sontarians)? Eh.

[ETM]
04-06-2010, 06:55 PM
that would be the Sontarians.

That would be the Sontarans!:frustrated:

SpaceOddity
04-06-2010, 07:37 PM
When my mum was young, she had friends involved in Doctor Who and was offered a Tardis, but declined cos she had nowhere to put it. I've yet to forgive her.

*weeps*

Mara
04-06-2010, 07:46 PM
When my mum was young, she had friends involved in Doctor Who and was offered a Tardis, but declined cos she had nowhere to put it. I've yet to forgive her.

*weeps*

That would have been the coolest thing ever.

SpaceOddity
04-07-2010, 07:54 AM
New Doctor and Rose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKqsbW-rCFI

MadMan
04-07-2010, 08:19 AM
;253587']That would be the Sontarans!:frustrated:I thought I got it right! Sorry....


When my mum was young, she had friends involved in Doctor Who and was offered a Tardis, but declined cos she had nowhere to put it. I've yet to forgive her.

*weeps*Damn. I would have tossed out of most of my stuff to fit a Tardis replica in my home. For sure.

Um, Billy Pipper is hot. Good to see her popping up again in Season 4. Great season, really-I think highly of it and 3. 2 was really awesome as well, but fell a bit short, although it had the best episode out of the ones I've viewed so far in The Girl in the Fireplace. Season 1 was a solid start to the new series, and I liked the season finale for that one.

KK2.0
04-07-2010, 09:51 PM
this reminds me i still need to finish the previous seasons.

KK2.0
04-07-2010, 09:57 PM
I'm also a big fan (maybe even bigger) of the spin-off Torchwood. Two words: Captain Jack.

this is what got me to Doctor Who, torchwood is one of my favorite shows ever.

Mara
04-07-2010, 11:32 PM
this is what got me to Doctor Who, torchwood is one of my favorite shows ever.

Hear they're making an American version? And possibly bringing Barrowman over?

I'm extremely skeptical.

Winston*
04-07-2010, 11:46 PM
That Barrymore guy could not be more like Tom Cruise. It's crazy.

Mara
04-07-2010, 11:48 PM
That Barrymore guy could not be more like Tom Cruise. It's crazy.

Barrowman has better teeth.

Also, as far as I can tell, not a lunatic.

[ETM]
04-07-2010, 11:48 PM
Barrowman is nothing like Cruise. Except for being gay. Only he's completely open about it.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/galleries/showbiz/lacage/06-barrowman-drag.jpg

EDIT: He also has better legs.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kApto83SZK4/SxDBHxwrg2I/AAAAAAAAG0I/xqeiL1d3_kk/s1600/jbzaza.jpg

Mara
04-11-2010, 12:17 AM
So... this episode was pretty fun. Less manic and with good one-liners, but although the final crisis was really quite poignant, it was wrapped up a little too neatly for my taste.

The switch-faced smilers were deeply creepy.

[ETM]
04-11-2010, 12:36 AM
I was disappointed with the direction, and the music. The story was fine, as well as the acting, but it was somehow... hollow. I blame the director. But yeah, some nice moments, and several hilarious lines.

Mara
04-11-2010, 02:12 AM
I very rarely notice music in episodes.

MadMan
04-11-2010, 09:41 AM
End of Time Parts 1 and 2 was highly entertaining, and truly epic. So sad to see Tennant go, but hey he wants to do other things and he went out in grand style. Plus Timothy Dalton showing up as the leader of the Time Lords was awesome, although seeing a bunch of previous characters felt like they packed in people, but the reasons for that seem okay to me. This was the best of the specials, although my favorite is still The Next Doctor.

[ETM]
04-11-2010, 06:53 PM
I very rarely notice music in episodes.

I love, *love*, LOVE the entire Season 3 OST. It's one of my favorite soundtrack albums ever, including movies, everything. Several tracks move me to tears whenever I listen to it, every. single. time.

In Season 4, Murray Gold for some reason mostly recycled earlier thematic material or experimented with... noise.
Last night's episode largely had... moody background sound.

Mara
04-11-2010, 08:36 PM
The only shows where I consistently notice the music are BtVS and Lost.

Have I told you to watch Buffy lately?

Check this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBAoTYUZMJo) out. No spoilers, but avoid the comment section. The main theme is at about 1:30, so keep listening.

[ETM]
04-11-2010, 09:04 PM
The only shows where I consistently notice the music are BtVS and Lost.

It's very important to me, as I'm a huge soundtrack nut. That Buffy track is indeed great. A cross between Braveheart and The Last Mohican, which is okay in my book.

Doctor Who benefits from being able to use a full symphonic orchestra a lot of the time, and the sound is just incredible. It makes a HUGE difference especially when compared to the 100% digital sound of most TV productions (like Buffy).

I can't tell you how much I love This is Gallifrey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idQRiLZukG0), for example. I can never listen to it just once. Or how I always want to watch the episode when I hear The Doctor Forever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844_IkhcP-g) (or the amazing unreleased version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRGTOxwnvQ)). Or the beautiful version of the Doctor's Theme when Martha speaks of him in The Last of the Time Lords (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhCzz5v_8To)...

Also, for me, Battlestar Galactica is inseparable from the music. Bear McCreary is a great young composer, and I've loved everything he did: BSG, Sarah Connor Chronicles (especially the gorgeous Sarah's Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX8PPaoYwLk) and now Human Target. He's assembling the largest orchestra (95 pieces) ever used for television for this week's finale. It's gonna be fantastic.:D

Winston*
04-11-2010, 09:08 PM
;253824']Barrowman is nothing like Cruise.

Apart from looking, sounding and acting like him, sure.

[ETM]
04-11-2010, 09:10 PM
Apart from looking, sounding and acting like him, sure.

You are nothing like someone who is not wrong.

Mara
04-11-2010, 09:24 PM
I forgot BSG! Yeah, great music.


;254471']
Doctor Who benefits from being able to use a full symphonic orchestra a lot of the time, and the sound is just incredible. It makes a HUGE difference especially when compared to the 100% digital sound of most TV productions (like Buffy).

Actually, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bP6KI24YWM&feature=related) is my favorite piece, but I think it loses something being divorced from the scene.


I can't tell you how much I love This is Gallifrey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idQRiLZukG0), for example. I can never listen to it just once. Or how I always want to watch the episode when I hear The Doctor Forever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844_IkhcP-g) (or the amazing unreleased version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRGTOxwnvQ)). Or the beautiful version of the Doctor's Theme when Martha speaks of him in The Last of the Time Lords (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhCzz5v_8To)...

Okay, I THINK I don't listen to the music, but I actually recognize all three of those pieces. (Especially the second-- I tend to notice music with voices more than just instruments. Maybe because I'm a singer and I fell compelled to sing along?)

Mara
04-11-2010, 09:37 PM
Apart from looking, sounding and acting like him, sure.

Sorry, I don't see it.

[ETM]
04-11-2010, 09:41 PM
Okay, I THINK I don't listen to the music, but I actually recognize all three of those pieces. (Especially the second-- I tend to notice music with voices more than just instruments. Maybe because I'm a singer and I fell compelled to sing along?)

I love themes, and most of all when composers use them in clever and surprising ways. I remember geeking out over the solo horn that plays when Boromir speaks at the Council of Elrond - I was guessing it was going to be the Gondor theme, and I was ecstatic when I heard it again in the ROTK trailer.:D

Again, Bear McCreary is great with this - on Caprica, he composed an ethnic theme for the Taurons, and in one episode, an old woman sings a heartbreaking lament in their language to that same theme. It was a moment of greatness, and I really, really love that.

[ETM]
04-18-2010, 02:54 AM
Hmmm...

Something is off. It's not the new cast, it's... the overall tone. It doesn't... feel right. And now Moffat brings back both River Song and the Angels in the same story? It's... what Davies would have done. I don't know if it's my expectations or what, as I seem to have expected pure greatness.

Mara
04-18-2010, 09:30 PM
I'm interested enough in the episode that I don't want to turn it off, but the Dalek's voices are grating on my headache. WHY MUST THEY SPEAK SO ANNOYINGLY?

Mara
04-18-2010, 09:45 PM
Did I miss something? How the flipping crap did those rickety old planes become space-borne? Nonsense.

[ETM]
04-18-2010, 09:56 PM
Did I miss something? How the flipping crap did those rickety old planes become space-borne? Nonsense.

The robot scientist "invented" the way for planes to be able to reach and fly in orbit. It is conveniently mentioned at the beginning.

And the Daleks are supposed to be incredibly annoying - I love it when they don't understand or know something, and they get all jumpy and start yelling "Explaaaain! Explaaaaain!!!":lol:

EDIT: Oh, and BTW - British WWII fighters rock. They were not "rickety old" in the war, and they kicked some serious Nazi behind.

Mara
04-18-2010, 10:40 PM
Finished. Pretty good, nothing extraordinary.

Next week: I am afraid of angels. I blink all the time-- I can't help it!

Thirdmango
04-19-2010, 01:32 AM
The first episode of the new season is the first Doctor Who episode I've ever seen and I really liked it. I want to go back to the beginning. I know that's really hard but I still want to.

[ETM]
04-19-2010, 02:09 AM
The first episode of the new season is the first Doctor Who episode I've ever seen and I really liked it. I want to go back to the beginning. I know that's really hard but I still want to.

Ouch. Going back from Smith to Eccleston, and to Smith again... after some 50-60 episodes? Go for it.

Mara
04-19-2010, 03:10 AM
The first episode of the new season is the first Doctor Who episode I've ever seen and I really liked it. I want to go back to the beginning. I know that's really hard but I still want to.

If by the "beginning" you mean the 2005 reboot, go for it. It's uneven but still really great stuff.

If you mean ALL THE WAY BACK that's pretty ambitious.

[ETM]
04-19-2010, 08:56 AM
I love almost all Eccleston episodes, even the really silly ones.

Thirdmango
04-19-2010, 11:26 PM
Yeah. I sorta wanna see how far I can get from the very beginning if I can get a hold of the old episodes.

Mara
04-19-2010, 11:30 PM
Yeah. I sorta wanna see how far I can get from the very beginning if I can get a hold of the old episodes.

You can rent the old-time stuff, although I've never done it. The reboot is almost entirely on Netflix Instant Watch.





David Tennant is a babe.

Mara
04-19-2010, 11:38 PM
I clicked on the first episode of the reboot on Netflix to check the quality (it's pretty good) and I have to say... although I really never found Billie Piper that attractive (heresy, I know everyone loves her) I still find her working-class accent absolutely adorable.

[ETM]
04-20-2010, 12:08 AM
I still find her working-class accent absolutely adorable.

It definitely feels a lot more natural than Amy's Scottish accent... I know she actually is Scottish (although she hasn't grown up there) but the more I hear it the more she seems to be faking it. I dunno, maybe it's me.

Mara
04-20-2010, 12:21 AM
Don't get me started on Jack Harkness' American accent. It's beyond spotty.

[ETM]
04-20-2010, 12:33 AM
Don't get me started on Jack Harkness' American accent. It's beyond spotty.

:lol:

Mara
04-20-2010, 12:40 AM
;255880']:lol:

Well, come on. He's a mongrel and it shows. He sounds American, Scottish, English... just a total mash-up. The very first word he says on Torchwood: "estrogen", he pronounces "eeestrogen" instead of "ehstrogen." And he constantly says "sheh-jull" instead of "skeh-jew-ull" for "schedule."

It makes sense, because his character travels through time and space, blah blah blah, but every time the show mentions that he sounds "American" I go "ehhhhhhhhhhhh... yes and no."

Mara
04-20-2010, 12:45 AM
By the way, this reminds me of one of the funniest Doctor Who moments, for me:

gCkVWoh4K3A

[ETM]
04-20-2010, 02:56 AM
Well, come on. He's a mongrel and it shows. He sounds American, Scottish, English... just a total mash-up. The very first word he says on Torchwood: "estrogen", he pronounces "eeestrogen" instead of "ehstrogen." And he constantly says "sheh-jull" instead of "skeh-jew-ull" for "schedule."

It makes sense, because his character travels through time and space, blah blah blah, but every time the show mentions that he sounds "American" I go "ehhhhhhhhhhhh... yes and no."

Well, he's a foreigner living in frakkin' Wales. He's supposed to sound like an American from another time who has been living all over the place (by that I mean universe) and has taken the identity of a US WWII airman. I think he sounds about as American as he should.:lol:

That reminds me - I should really write about that hilarious "Leverage" episode set in "Belgrade", and then you'd see what "spotty" is.:D

Mara
04-22-2010, 06:44 PM
I've been rewatching some early episodes for fun. A few observations:

1. Eccleson is stronger as the doctor than I remembered. He's not Tennant, but he is perfectly charming.

2. I think the hairdressers on the show hate Billie Piper. She had roots problems, limpness problems, and split-end problems. Her hair looks better in later seasons, so I suspect they weren't really trying.

3. Simon Pegg might be my favorite guest star. He really gets into the tone of the show, the mix of gleeful and malicious.

[ETM]
04-22-2010, 09:29 PM
Eccleston brought an intensity to the role that was completely different from Tennant's take. He has one of those faces that "work" no matter if he's trying to be serious, furious or just plain goofy. I also loved his Manchester accent a lot.

And Billie's hair was just perfect. I mean - the character is not supposed to be anything but an average girl from the suburbs when it comes to taste and... grooming. I smell bubblegum and curlers whenever she's on screen.:) It's a big part of what made her genuine, I think. Gillan hasn't "landed" yet, she still seems to be trying too hard somehow... she's all pouty and... leggy.

Mara
04-24-2010, 02:25 AM
Awww. Jack was so charming and uninhibited and non-tortured when we first met him.

Mara
04-24-2010, 11:42 PM
Pausing new episode to mention how hot River's shoes are.

Mara
04-24-2010, 11:53 PM
Pausing again.

I think I am more frightened of those stupid angels than any fictional monster, ever. They scare the crap out of me.

Mara
04-25-2010, 12:24 AM
;255509']And now Moffat brings back both River Song and the Angels in the same story? It's... what Davies would have done. I don't know if it's my expectations or what, as I seem to have expected pure greatness.

I thought this episode was awesome. Strongest of the new season by far. Scary, funny, cool... I'm totally buying the affection between the Doctor and Amelia, particularly him for her. The scene where he bites her was brilliant.

And I'm glad they're giving River a sinister edge. My pet theory is that she is the woman who one day kills him.

SpaceOddity
04-25-2010, 07:04 AM
I thought this episode was awesome. Strongest of the new season by far. Scary, funny, cool... I'm totally buying the affection between the Doctor and Amelia, particularly him for her. The scene where he bites her was brilliant.

And I'm glad they're giving River a sinister edge. My pet theory is that she is the woman who one day kills him.

Twas naff. Re-wrote angels as neck-snappers.

Mara
04-25-2010, 11:19 AM
Twas naff. Re-wrote angels as neck-snappers.

They only snapped the necks because they wanted to use the bodies to communicate with the others... or something. I was okay with it.

Mara
04-25-2010, 11:19 AM
I'm glad you're still watching, albeit begrudgingly.

Thirdmango
04-26-2010, 11:58 AM
I loved those angels. That was an awesome episode.

Mara
04-26-2010, 12:07 PM
I loved those angels. That was an awesome episode.

You really need to see the previous episode about the angels ("Blink.") In my opinion, it is the best episode of Dr. Who ever. It scared the ever-loving crap outta me.

Thirdmango
04-26-2010, 10:36 PM
Funny thing is, my really good friend who just got into Doctor Who about 2 months ago and has watched all the reboot episodes told me over and over to watch Blink before I watched that episode. I didn't listen to her though. :(

Mara
04-26-2010, 10:49 PM
I don't think it was 100% necessary in terms of continuity, just more in terms of quality. You really need to see the rebooted series. BBC seasons are super short-- it wouldn't take you too long.

SpaceOddity
04-29-2010, 08:37 PM
I'm glad you're still watching, albeit begrudgingly.

Liked Amy's "You don't need to die for me. I'm not that clingy."

Mara
04-29-2010, 08:40 PM
Liked Amy's "You don't need to die for me. I'm not that clingy."

I liked the hand-biting. Have I mentioned that already? I liked the hand-biting.

I may have developed a minor hand-biting fetish. Because, damn.

monolith94
04-29-2010, 10:44 PM
So... this episode was pretty fun. Less manic and with good one-liners, but although the final crisis was really quite poignant, it was wrapped up a little too neatly for my taste.

The switch-faced smilers were deeply creepy.
I thought it was pretty bad. Plot-holes galore, and the whole heavy-handed social commentaryness of it made it feel like a lame Colin Baker / Sylvester McCoy-era script. Everything in it seemed tired and lame to me. Plus, it really bugged me how the Doctor and Amy spent the second half of the ep covered in sick and neither of them seemed to even desire a shower. And of course, within fifteen minutes the Doctor's hair was looking back to normal, of course. Eeech.

I've been following Doctor Who on on-demand butI might skip the next one. It sounds lame.

Mara
04-29-2010, 10:55 PM
I've been following Doctor Who on on-demand butI might skip the next one. It sounds lame.

The next is the weakest of the season so far, but it sets up some stuff we might care about in the long run.

Mara
04-30-2010, 01:34 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/129161887003456071.gif

monolith94
04-30-2010, 02:34 AM
The next is the weakest of the season so far, but it sets up some stuff we might care about in the long run.
I've been watching Doctor Who since I was eight. I've suffered through some bad, bad, bad episodes of Who. I'll make it through that, I suppose.

SpaceOddity
04-30-2010, 05:28 AM
I've been watching Doctor Who since I was eight. I've suffered through some bad, bad, bad episodes of Who. I'll make it through that, I suppose.

Remember the liquorice villian?

Mara
04-30-2010, 05:52 PM
My unofficial rewatch has wandered into Season 2, and damn if I didn't half forget how hot David Tennant is.

Mara
05-01-2010, 11:00 PM
May I just mention how annoying it is that they are ignoring the fact that the angels aren't supposed to be able to look at each other? That's why they cover the faces!

EDIT: I posted this in the wrong thread. Oops.

MadMan
05-03-2010, 07:23 PM
Damnit Mara, you just have to post that gif of the angels from Blink :sad:

So how's the new season going so far? I don't get BBC America, so I haven't been able to watch any of it.

Mara
05-03-2010, 07:55 PM
So how's the new season going so far? I don't get BBC America, so I haven't been able to watch any of it.

Opinions vary. I think it's interesting but still finding its legs in terms of consistency. I think I really like the new doctor. My opinion is still a little unsure on the new companion.

SpaceOddity
05-03-2010, 09:22 PM
New Doctor's Tennant turned down.

*boos*

Mara
05-03-2010, 10:34 PM
New Doctor's Tennant turned down.


I like him. I like his goofy face.

I'm nowhere near ready to even compare him to Tennant, but I do like him.

[ETM]
05-04-2010, 07:40 PM
Smith's performance is so different from Tennant's (too early to speak of relative quality), I can't even imagine where one would find ground for comparison.

monolith94
05-05-2010, 04:28 AM
Just saw the Dalek episode, it was tired, tired, tired. Not even as much fun as an old mediocre Dalek episode like Remembrance of the Daleks.

monolith94
05-05-2010, 04:29 AM
Also, in the new series, the Doctor screams I AM THE DOCTOR! way too much. We get it dude, we get it. Compensating much? I like Matt Smith, but they really need to start serving up some choicer scripts.

Mara
05-06-2010, 08:20 PM
Rewatching "The Impossible Planet" and "The Satan Pit." I read a BBC poll that said these two were considered the scariest episodes. Yes, scarier than "Blink."







...naw.

Mara
05-07-2010, 05:35 PM
I somehow completely missed "Fear Her" the first time I went through Doctor Who. It's like a present from the past! Fruit out of season!



Oh, except it kind of sucks.

SpaceOddity
05-09-2010, 10:24 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/tvandradioblog/2010/may/04/terry-pratchett-ludicrous-doctor-who

[ETM]
05-09-2010, 07:57 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/tvandradioblog/2010/may/04/terry-pratchett-ludicrous-doctor-who

You do realize he's not talking about the latest season, right? I agree with him on most of the article, especially the bit where he says "Doctor Who" is wrongfully classified as science-fiction.

So, "Vampires of Venice"... Smith was really, really good in this one. His Doctor is truly starting to shine through and he's pretty much taken over, whether one likes him or not. Pond is turning into a bit of a mystery, as she seems to be a bit too much of a flake. She's equally annoying and adorable, and I wonder where they're taking the character. Rory is the best third wheel since Mickey Smith. But - the episode was GORGEOUS. They filmed it in Trogir, Croatia, and it was a stunning substitute for Venice. I wish more of Who is shot on location around the world, but I'll take whatever I get.

Mara
05-09-2010, 08:58 PM
Hmmm. Great premise ("fish from space") and terrific production values, but I wasn't buying the narrative. Character reactions and motivations felt kind of arbitrary and there were logic holes galore. A few funny lines, but overall the writing felt a little bit amateur.

Love the Doctor. Am unsure of Amy Pond. She's kind of manipulative.

[ETM]
05-10-2010, 11:27 AM
logic holes galore

And plot. What if someone fell into the water? Sure, the fish dudes can't procreate, but they're still there, right?

[ETM]
05-16-2010, 10:35 PM
For SpaceOddity:
http://c2.api.ning.com/files/FEWzOtV48BCj-0WXT2FuKZdf*kfEq6UABMSWjoOeZNU ajFo3wVoCfs5mqWseDMKsoDo8L2lGT 0h8RAFGdBX3HjK3vQCler*c/Doctor__s_Girls_Wallpaper_by_m imi_na.jpg

Mara
05-25-2010, 07:45 PM
Catching up. "Amy's Choice" was pretty good but a silly explanation at the end.

I don't think we've seen the Doctor to be quite this obsessed with a companion anywhere in the rebooted series. I mean, he's really into her.

SpaceOddity
05-27-2010, 10:46 PM
Am unsure of Amy Pond. She's kind of manipulative.

*misses Rose*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxRacA8BVQs&feature=related

SpaceOddity
05-28-2010, 07:03 AM
;260697']For SpaceOddity:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2rLNSt947E&feature=related

SpaceOddity
05-31-2010, 01:35 PM
I don't think we've seen the Doctor to be quite this obsessed with a companion anywhere in the rebooted series. I mean, he's really into her.

Based on what? In times of drama n tragedy he just acts like the chip-shop ran out of vinegar.

Thirdmango
05-31-2010, 01:37 PM
Once people see Cold Blood we need to talk. I love the plot they pulled out of that one.

Mara
06-01-2010, 07:46 PM
Based on what? In times of drama n tragedy he just acts like the chip-shop ran out of vinegar.

He's deeply oriented to her. Both Tennant and Eccleson always looked a little bit past the companion, much more interested in the situation. Smith is looking at Amy all the time, always turning towards her, and checking on her. The new doctor shows jealousy of her, which the other doctors didn't do. They were happy when the companions found other friendships and love.

And I finished Cold Blood. Unsure what I think. Having Amy forget Rory seems like a little bit of a cop-out. I'm curious about this big bad, though.

SpaceOddity
06-01-2010, 08:17 PM
He's deeply oriented to her. Both Tennant and Eccleson always looked a little bit past the companion, much more interested in the situation. Smith is looking at Amy all the time, always turning towards her, and checking on her. The new doctor shows jealousy of her, which the other doctors didn't do. They were happy when the companions found other friendships and love.

And I finished Cold Blood. Unsure what I think. Having Amy forget Rory seems like a little bit of a cop-out. I'm curious about this big bad, though.

So jealous that when she threw herself at him he fetched her bf to do the job. And as for being orientated towards her - she's more helpless than other companions. Has even been physically hampered in episodes - 9 months preggers/ unable to open her eyes.

The harridan demeanour tis freckle-deep. She's gutless.

Mara
06-01-2010, 08:32 PM
And as for being orientated towards her - she's more helpless than other companions. Has even been physically hampered in episodes - 9 months preggers/ unable to open her eyes.


Good point.

In fact, you could say that the Doctor feels very paternal to her. He first met her as a child and keeps referring to her as a child, especially when he refuses her sexual advances.

SpaceOddity
06-01-2010, 08:37 PM
Good point.

In fact, you could say that the Doctor feels very paternal to her. He first met her as a child and keeps referring to her as a child, especially when he refuses her sexual advances.

Maybe he and River are her parents? ;)

SpaceOddity
06-01-2010, 08:39 PM
How come the time light erases peeps yet the doctor can stick his hand in?

Methinks that episode was written on swiss cheese. Them holes.

[ETM]
06-01-2010, 09:12 PM
How come the time light erases peeps yet the doctor can stick his hand in?

Methinks that episode was written on swiss cheese. Them holes.

The Doctor is the cause? It's the Tardis that blew up?

If that's "holes", I don't even want to start on, oh, at least 50% of episodes so far in since 2005. Doctor Who is built on absurdities that somehow make sense in the end.

Mara
06-02-2010, 01:18 AM
;263478']Doctor Who is built on absurdities that somehow make sense in the end.

Torchwood, too. Especially the first season. You just have to sigh and move on.

[ETM]
06-10-2010, 09:28 PM
Pretty flippin' awesome Weeping Angel costume. (http://www.therpf.com/f24/doctor-who-blink-weeping-angel-costume-dialup-beware-49264/)

Mara
06-15-2010, 08:02 PM
Okay, that was utterly charming. Every week I become more convinced that Matt Smith is brilliant and Amy Pond is... well, okay. Pretty and sort of annoying. But I loved loved loved the Doctor in this episode.

Winston*
06-19-2010, 01:35 AM
Getting back into Doctor Who Continuing with the second season after a long break.

The Idiot's Lantern - Quality episode. Pretty good monster and nice B plot with the family.

The Impossible Planet + The Satan Pit - Feel like this could have been done in one episode. First part didn't work for me, don't think this is a show that can get by on atmosphere alone. Second part was more exciting.

Love and Monsters - Extrememly dumb but pretty funny, apart from naff ending. Marc Warren is a great actor.

Fear Her - Dumb and no fun. Lame Olympic promotion also.

Winston*
06-21-2010, 10:38 AM
What's the deal with Torchwood? Should I skip the first season?

Winston*
06-21-2010, 11:43 AM
Loved the season 2 finale.

[ETM]
06-21-2010, 01:47 PM
What's the deal with Torchwood? Should I skip the first season?

No. It's a bit divisive, but I liked the raunchiness and several stories are just awesome.

Mara
06-21-2010, 03:39 PM
What's the deal with Torchwood? Should I skip the first season?

First season has some problems, but it sets up important issues and has some great moments. Also, it's short. The show really hits its stride in the second season.

Mara
06-24-2010, 08:15 PM
Catching up. The conversation between

the Doctor and Rory

is brilliant.

[ETM]
06-24-2010, 08:16 PM
You'll see.

Mara
06-24-2010, 08:19 PM
;268120']You'll see.

Oh dear.

Mara
06-24-2010, 08:32 PM
Doctor Who, you whore. Don't you dare do this to me.

[ETM]
06-24-2010, 08:37 PM
There's no way the second part can live up to that ending.

SpaceOddity
06-27-2010, 05:19 AM
Twas crap. Doubling up the time line twas cheap cheat. Yes twas excused cos time collapsed, but tis still against show's tenants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IB23NrCzyk

[ETM]
06-27-2010, 06:45 PM
I'm not psychic or a time traveler but seeing your posts as last in this thread dampens my spirits immediately.

Winston*
06-27-2010, 09:18 PM
The Runaway Bride - Fun Episode. Dig that Highway chase. Funny how the part of "gian alien spider queen" was managed to be played over the top. Not so sure about Catherine Tate's acting abilities, she's very broad, makes me worried for season 4

Smith and Jones - Enjoyed this one also. Good introductory episode for the new companion. Liked those Rhinocerous guys, wouldn't mind seeing them show up again.

The Shakespeare Code - Stupid, but had its moments. I liked how they treated the race issue "Just walk around like you own the place. It works for me".

Gridlock - Awesome episode, one of the best so far. Futuristic dystopias, mood altering drugs, giant enemy crabs, Ardal O'Hanlon as a cat man named Thomas Kinkade Brannigan. Loved it.

[ETM]
06-27-2010, 09:21 PM
Not so sure about Catherine Tate's acting abilities though, she's very broad, makes me worried for season 4

I was worried too but she performs WAAAY above any of my expectations.

Mara
06-28-2010, 07:46 PM
I lurv Donna.

Mara
06-28-2010, 08:21 PM
Caught up. Plot holes you could drive a truck through, but as always they pull out some genuine emotion and interesting twists.

Since Amy's main talent is looking pretty, how FREAKING PRETTY was she during the wedding scene?

Overall, I'd say this was a pretty solid season. Rory ended up being a really charming character. River... is interesting, too. Much more ominous than she seemed at the beginning.

[ETM]
06-28-2010, 08:40 PM
River... is interesting, too. Much more ominous than she seemed at the beginning.

I love how the things she seems to be keeping from the Doctor are not relevant to this season after all, but the next.

Thirdmango
06-29-2010, 09:00 AM
Saved up the last two episodes to watch together. That was phenomenal top of the line quality.

Mara
06-29-2010, 12:33 PM
Saved up the last two episodes to watch together. That was phenomenal top of the line quality.

Use the summer to catch up on the reboot. You won't be sorry.

Kurosawa Fan
06-30-2010, 05:43 PM
Val finally talked me into starting this series. I've watched the first three episodes of season one (Eccleston, obviously). Interesting start, and much more entertaining than I thought it would be. Hard to judge a show on three episodes, but I'll say that I'm definitely intrigued enough to continue. One flaw I've noticed, and I certainly hope they fix it, is that they draw tension out waaaay too long during the climax of each episode. For instance, the constant cutting back and forth between Rose and the Doctor fighting the plastic men in the first ep and shots of London streets turning to chaos, or in the second ep as it took the Doctor a ridiculous amount of time to walk between the slowly spinning fan blades in order to reactivate the shield on the ship. Episode three didn't have one of those moments, so I'm hoping they learned that lesson quickly.

Ivan Drago
06-30-2010, 05:45 PM
Is the first season the ideal place to start watching this? Or can I start anywhere in the series?

[ETM]
06-30-2010, 07:44 PM
Start from the top, Drago. It hits much harder later if you've been there from the start. Also, Christopher Eccleston is brilliant.

Mara
06-30-2010, 09:12 PM
The start of the REBOOT (2005.) I haven't seen the original series. They reference it sometimes, but you don't need to have seen it to stay current.

[ETM]
06-30-2010, 11:09 PM
There is no way to see the original series, ever, so it's not much of a choice. BBC has apparently deleted much of the early seasons, there are not many complete ones at all I think. So yeah, reboot all the way.

SpaceOddity
07-01-2010, 09:35 AM
Caught up. Plot holes you could drive a truck through, but as always they pull out some genuine emotion and interesting twists.

Since Amy's main talent is looking pretty, how FREAKING PRETTY was she during the wedding scene?

Overall, I'd say this was a pretty solid season. Rory ended up being a really charming character. River... is interesting, too. Much more ominous than she seemed at the beginning.

Yay to Rory & River.
Boo to the brat and the bumbler.

Mara
07-01-2010, 03:31 PM
Yay to Rory & River.
Boo to the brat and the bumbler.

I like him a lot, actually. And Amy is merely passable... it's a little embarrassing that her fiance ended up being the more compelling character. But overall, I'm calling this a good season.

monolith94
07-01-2010, 03:46 PM
;269358']There is no way to see the original series, ever, so it's not much of a choice. BBC has apparently deleted much of the early seasons, there are not many complete ones at all I think. So yeah, reboot all the way.
Well, it isn't quite THAT bad. Basically, most of the missing episodes are from the first two Doctors, Hartnell and Troughton. I'm pretty sure we have all of Pertwee on up, although I could be mistaken. The Pertwee and Baker years have a lot of charm.

monolith94
07-01-2010, 03:47 PM
Well, it isn't quite THAT bad. Basically, most of the missing episodes are from the first two Doctors, Hartnell and Troughton. I'm pretty sure we have all of Pertwee on up, although I could be mistaken. The Pertwee and Baker years have a lot of charm.
And besides, we even have some Hartnell and Troughton episodes, too. Hartnell's episode "The Aztecs" is really cool, I thought. Troughton's The Tomb of the Cybermen is really good.

Mara
07-01-2010, 04:01 PM
The Pertwee and Baker years have a lot of charm.

Everyone loves Baker, but the only exposure I've ever had to him was reading the book he wrote, The Boy Who Kicked Pigs. It was supposed to be funny but I found it repellent and literally nauseating. (Blech, I'm sick just thinking about it.)

So I have trouble finding enthusiasm to watch his Doctor.

Ivan Drago
07-01-2010, 04:01 PM
;269358']There is no way to see the original series, ever, so it's not much of a choice.

:| I have all the seasons on my Netflix instant queue.

Mara
07-01-2010, 05:37 PM
This is the second time I've heard this rumor, and I was hoping that it would just go away on its own.

A Doctor Who movie? With Johnny Depp? (http://www.celebuzz.com/johnny-depp-star-doctor-who-s220331/)

What a freakishly, freakishly bad idea. I'm shuddering at the thought.

SpaceOddity
07-01-2010, 06:16 PM
I like him a lot, actually. And Amy is merely passable... it's a little embarrassing that her fiance ended up being the more compelling character. But overall, I'm calling this a good season.

He's a bumbler and a mumbler. Has a steam-rolled voice and a judder.

Winston*
07-04-2010, 12:42 PM
A line from Torchwood

"Travel across the universe for the greatest sex, still end up dying alone"

Someone wrote this line down, people read it, it was given to an actor that highly resembles Tom Cruise to say and it was filmed and put on television.

Mara
07-04-2010, 01:04 PM
A line from Torchwood

"Travel across the universe for the greatest sex, still end up dying alone"

Someone wrote this line down, people read it, it was given to an actor that highly resembles Tom Cruise to say and it was filmed and put on television.

That episode was terrible. Torchwood had some real problems at the beginning with trying too hard. Once you get past "Cyberwoman", which is awful, it gets notably better.

Kurosawa Fan
07-04-2010, 01:44 PM
I'm through "The Long Game". Thus far I don't see what all the fuss is about, but it's a fun show, and I'm certainly enjoying myself. Val keeps telling me it gets better, but she's so obsessed I'm not sure I trust her opinion. I'll keep plugging along and see for myself, I suppose.

[ETM]
07-04-2010, 01:53 PM
You just wait for The Empty Child, and the season finale, KF.

"Fun Show" was always enough for me, knowing that every once in a while it becomes simply amazing.

Kurosawa Fan
07-04-2010, 01:56 PM
;270110']You just wait for The Empty Child, and the season finale, KF.

"Fun Show" was always enough for me, knowing that every once in a while it becomes simply amazing.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm continuing of my own accord because it's a fun show. I have a lot of shows on tap to watch during my break from classes this summer, so this could easily be brushed aside if I wasn't enjoying it. I don't necessarily need it to be more than a fun show, it's just that some people's obsession with the show just isn't making sense at this point. I'm sure I'll understand as I go further.

[ETM]
07-04-2010, 02:03 PM
It builds up over time and the emotional payoff gets higher and higher.
I think the obsession starts with Tennant. I loved Eccleston and he made me fall in love with the show, but David Tennant had so many incredible moments it's hard for some, like SpaceOddity, to let go of him even a full season after he left the show.

Winston*
07-04-2010, 08:04 PM
That episode was terrible. Torchwood had some real problems at the beginning with trying too hard. Once you get past "Cyberwoman", which is awful, it gets notably better.

Yeah, I turned that one off. Kind of liked the previous episode with the flashback/flashforward machine. It was a bit less transparent in it's "adultness".

One thing about Torchwood, the theme music is rubbish. You'd think they would've tried harder given the iconicness of its parent show's theme.


Oh and with Doctor Who, I watched Daleks in Manhattan + Evolution of the Daleks, which was quite good but like The Impossible Planet + The Satan Pit felt like they had to extend a single episode to a double to justify the set budget. Also watched The Lazarus Pit which had a good set up and a quality actor in Mark Gatiss as the antagonist, but then just went the lazy giant monster route.

Winston*
07-06-2010, 08:30 AM
WTF, fairies? They didn't even make a half hearted effort to science fiction them. This show better be worth all these rubbish episodes I'm watching.

[ETM]
07-06-2010, 12:03 PM
It will be. Promise.

Mara
07-06-2010, 01:27 PM
WTF, fairies? They didn't even make a half hearted effort to science fiction them. This show better be worth all these rubbish episodes I'm watching.

I loved the imagery of the people choking on the rose petals. Other than that, eh. Let's see, you're watching... Countrycide next. I think that's a quality episode, so let's see if you like it better.

[ETM]
07-06-2010, 02:45 PM
Let's see, you're watching... Countrycide next. I think that's a quality episode, so let's see if you like it better.

Countrycide is generally disliked, but I found the main bad guy pretty damn horrifying. Whenever I see him in other stuff, he totally creeps me out.

Mara
07-06-2010, 02:49 PM
;270513']Countrycide is generally disliked

Is it? That's unfortunate.

I like that there was zero supernatural in the episode-- it was just people being evil. And although the isolated-murder-house premise has been done to death in popular fiction, I still found the whole thing sufficiently creepy.

Winston*
07-06-2010, 07:25 PM
Would be more fine with all these stupid episodes if I liked the team more. The lead woman's fine but five episodes in the only thing I've learned about the sleazy guy and the Japanese computer woman is that he's kind of sleazy and she's Japanese and good with computers. Captain Jack's got a bit more personality, but that's left over from Doctor Who, and I don't find the actor who plays him very charismatic especially compared to a Tennant.

Mara
07-06-2010, 07:30 PM
Owen and Tosh are both okay, but (believe it or not) Ianto becomes my favorite character. He takes the longest to develop, but by season 2 he's just a treat.

Winston*
07-06-2010, 07:47 PM
Oh that guy. He wasn't in the last episode so I assumed he'd died in the Cyber-woman episode I didn't finish.

Mara
07-06-2010, 07:48 PM
Oh that guy. He wasn't in the last episode so I assumed he'd died in the Cyber-woman episode I didn't finish.

No, he just cried like a bitch boy. Ianto gets short shrift in the first half of the season.

Kurosawa Fan
07-07-2010, 12:53 PM
Finally caught of glimpse of a show worthy of obsession. The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances were two great episodes. Val is practically peeing her pants in anticipation of the season finale, so I'm guessing it's pretty good as well. Should get there in the next couple days.

Mara
07-07-2010, 01:38 PM
Yeah, I'd say those were the first two really impressive episodes.

[ETM]
07-07-2010, 02:27 PM
Yeah, I'd say those were the first two really impressive episodes.

And the first Steven Moffat episodes as well.

Kurosawa Fan
07-07-2010, 02:32 PM
I have another confession. I don't really like Christopher Eccleston. As the Doctor, anyway. Well, don't like is too strong. I think he pulls off the humor and quirkiness rather well, but when it comes to genuine sentimentality, he's off. He hasn't convinced me once. I always feel like he's mocking people rather than relating to their emotions or showing his own feelings. He lacks a sincerity that is vital to certain situations.

I'm interested to see Tennant's take on the Doctor.

Mara
07-07-2010, 02:41 PM
I think he pulls off the humor and quirkiness rather well, but when it comes to genuine sentimentality, he's off. He hasn't convinced me once.

That's probably a fair complaint. The Doctor is a really unusual character in that he is often more emotionally removed from what is happening than you would expect, like he's always watching things through a glass. He has that thoughtless, manic sort of quality. But when he does care, it's important that we believe it.

I sometimes had the vague impression that Eccleson felt the part a little beneath him. Like he was too important for all the silliness. But he used to be on Heroes, so that may not be so.

Tennant just owns that part. I think you'll be really impressed. Plus, he's ridiculously handsome and charming.

[ETM]
07-07-2010, 02:56 PM
I'm with Mara on how the Doctor can be a bit removed from everything, but I liked Eccleston and what he brought to the table. I think you'll like him in the finale. Tennant... well, you'll see, but I really honestly feel that Tennant picked up exactly where Eccleston left and evolved that character, not reinvented him. I always see Eccleston's Doctor as a sort of 1.0 (even though the character and the show itself is older).

SpaceOddity
07-07-2010, 04:00 PM
Tennant just owns that part. I think you'll be really impressed. Plus, he's ridiculously handsome and charming.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_E-8cNhoxiAA/SHvyWENag0I/AAAAAAAAAfo/Pna5Fd_LcP8/s400/DW20052x13Doomsday-01897.jpg

*covets*

Thirdmango
07-07-2010, 04:47 PM
I'm 6 or 7 episodes into the first season of the reboot now. It's good but weird. I loved seeing Simon Pegg. I think I agree with KF's assessment.

Winston*
07-08-2010, 09:26 AM
Watched the Torchwood episodes Countryside and Greeks Bearing Gifts. Hey, this show got good all of a sudden. Neat.

Mara
07-08-2010, 12:38 PM
Watched the Torchwood episodes Countryside and Greeks Bearing Gifts. Hey, this show got good all of a sudden. Neat.

Countrycide. Like "homicide." They're trying to be clever.

Glad it isn't wasting your time anymore-- I was hoping you'd end up liking it. The next two episodes are probably my favorites of the first season.

Thirdmango
07-09-2010, 01:25 PM
So I do a pub quiz night every week. There have been four week so far. My team got second the first week and then won the second and third weeks, we lost miserably last night cause there were too many comics questions. But the clue they gave for one of the rounds was Doctor Who. Looks like I have added motivation to watch the rest of the reboot this week.

Kurosawa Fan
07-12-2010, 02:28 AM
Finished the first series, which was good, not great. The finale was fantastic, but my complaints about Eccleston stand. He was a distraction for me. Watched the first episode of the second series, and it was a huge increase in quality. Tennant is already impressive, and he had minimal work to do. Everywhere that Eccleston struggles, Tennant excels. The episode was tense, it was compelling, it was funny, it was much more suited to my tastes. I'm excited to continue.

Winston*
07-12-2010, 10:54 AM
I'm enjoying Torchwood, but I still think it'd be better if it didn't try to be all "adult". I don't need to hear talk about cumming in a Doctor Who spin off. And is there any character in this show who isn't bisexual?

Random Shoes was great btw.

Doctor Who episodes 42 and Human Nature + The Family of Blood, also great.

Mara
07-12-2010, 12:30 PM
I'm enjoying Torchwood, but I still think it'd be better if it didn't try to be all "adult".

The show just feels silly when it tries too hard. But season 3, woooh boy. It stops acting adult and actually becomes adult.

[ETM]
07-12-2010, 02:02 PM
To be fair, Torchwood pushed its way from BBC3 all the way to prime time on BBC1, so I don't mind the progression at all.