Doctor Who

[Thirdmango]

Finished the first series, which was good, not great. The finale was fantastic, but my complaints about Eccleston stand. He was a distraction for me. Watched the first episode of the second series, and it was a huge increase in quality. Tennant is already impressive, and he had minimal work to do. Everywhere that Eccleston struggles, Tennant excels. The episode was tense, it was compelling, it was funny, it was much more suited to my tastes. I'm excited to continue.

Um... KF and I last night were the same person. I did really like the idea of the death game shows, and that was a very good finale episode.

[MadMan]

I'm enjoying Torchwood, but I still think it'd be better if it didn't try to be all "adult". I don't need to hear talk about cumming in a Doctor Who spin off. And is there any character in this show who isn't bisexual?

Random Shoes was great btw.

Doctor Who episodes 42 and Human Nature + The Family of Blood, also great.Human Nature + The Family of Blood is (for now anyways, as I haven't seen the new season) the best two-part arc in the show's run. Plus the young telepheic boy's monlogue about the Doctor really nails him down:

"He's like fire and ice and rage. He's like the night and the storm in the heart of the sun. He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time and can see the turn of the universe. And... he's wonderful."

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Human Nature + The Family of Blood is (for now anyways, as I haven't seen the new season) the best two-part arc in the show's run. Plus the young telepheic boy's monlogue about the Doctor really nails him down:

"He's like fire and ice and rage. He's like the night and the storm in the heart of the sun. He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time and can see the turn of the universe. And... he's wonderful."

The whole ending of Family of Blood is one of the most emotionally charged moments in the entire show, and Murray Gold hit it out of the ballpark with the score for the entire two-parter. Shit, now I want to watch it again...

[Winston*]

John Simm!

[Winston*]

Doctor Who Season 3 Ranked

1. Last of the Time Lords
2. Gridlock
3. Blink
4. The Sound of Drums
5. The Family of Blood + Human Nature
6. 42
7. Utopia
8. Smith and Jones
9. The Runaway Bride
10.Daleks in Manhattan + Evolution of the Daleks
11. The Shakespeare Code
12. The Lazarus Experiment

Also finished Torchwood season one the other day, Random Shoes was easily the best episode and the only one that really lives up to its parent show. Going to take a break for a bit from both now.

[Thirdmango]

How this show is able to take characters like Mickey and Rory and make them into the greatest people ever is really quite amazing. Just finished The Age of Steel and Mickey is just the coolest guy ever.

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John Simm!

I first saw him in Doctor Who, actually. He's awesomeness.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Giles as an alien headmaster! Fantastic.

[Mara]

Giles as an alien headmaster! Fantastic.

Oh, I LOVE that episode. Mostly for sexy evil Giles, but there's other good stuff too.

[Mara]

Oh, I LOVE that episode. Mostly for sexy evil Giles, but there's other good stuff too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/finch3.jpg

It's kind of an 80/20 thing.

[[ETM]]

He's brilliant in that episode. I also liked how they reintroduced a couple of really ridiculous concepts from the past and made them almost not-ridiculous.

[MadMan]

;274492']The whole ending of Family of Blood is one of the most emotionally charged moments in the entire show, and Murray Gold hit it out of the ballpark with the score for the entire two-parter. Shit, now I want to watch it again...Damnit, I'm trying to recall what that ending was-I'm not 100% sure, as its been a long time since I watched Season 3. If its still on Netflix Instant Viewing I'm going there, cause it rules.

[Thirdmango]

This show is so good. So so so so good. I have just a couple more episodes til the fifth season and then I'll be caught up. Man oh man I love this show.

[[ETM]]

Uh, Mara...

Doctor Who is gonna shoot a two-parter on location IN UTAH. (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a281334/doctor-who-to-film-two-episodes-in-us.html)

:D:D:D

[Mara]

;292576']Uh, Mara...

Doctor Who is gonna shoot a two-parter on location IN UTAH. (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a281334/doctor-who-to-film-two-episodes-in-us.html)

:D:D:D

DANG IT, I DON'T LIVE THERE.

:frustrated:

Strange place to film Oval Office stuff. You'd think they'd go down to the arches and do an alien planet there. (I can't count the number of times I've seen the arches sub for an alient planet.)

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DANG IT, I DON'T LIVE THERE.

:frustrated:

Strange place to film Oval Office stuff. You'd think they'd go down to the arches and do an alien planet there. (I can't count the number of times I've seen the arches sub for an alient planet.)

I thought you might fit in some trip to see relatives or something.

But yeah, they'll be filming outdoors in Utah, the plot probably requires it. The Oval Office is a set anyway.;)

[Thirdmango]

Oh man, I'm in Utah. That is so exciting, I wonder if I can find out where and get a sneak peak. :D

[Winston*]

Finished Torchwood season 2. Pretty good show. Not funny though, which is kind of a big strike against it.

[Mara]

Not funny though, which is kind of a big strike against it.

It lacks Doctor Who's manic glee, that's for sure.

Season 3 is some great television, but even less funny.

[Winston*]

I had a couple of issues with it but overall Children of Earth was really good.

Peter Capaldi was great. Excellent meta-casting.

[MadMan]

Damnit I want Season 5 of Doctor Who to finally release on Netflix. I'm tired of waiting.

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There's a Doctor Who-themed episode of Craig Ferguson's show on tonight.

[Winston*]

Watching season 4 of Doctor Who.It's nice to be back to itafter all that time with Torchwood. Humour!

[[ETM]]

I wish I could see it for the first time again.

Also, this year's Christmas Special is by Moffat, is called "A Christmas Carol", is intentionally Dickensian, and has Michael Gambon. It will be the first Christmas Special to air in the US the same day, at 9PM.

[Irish]

;302796']I wish I could see it for the first time again.

Also, this year's Christmas Special is by Moffat, is called "A Christmas Carol", is intentionally Dickensian, and has Michael Gambon. It will be the first Christmas Special to air in the US the same day, at 9PM.
Is that redhead going to be in it? Usually they swap out the 'companion' for the Xmas specials, which has always been something of a disappointment to me.

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Is that redhead going to be in it? Usually they swap out the 'companion' for the Xmas specials, which has always been something of a disappointment to me.

This is the first Moffat special so I'm guessing he's got something special up his sleeve.

[Thirdmango]

The trailer for the christmas episode can be found here:

http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/19375

Amy Pond is in the trailer so I'm pretty sure she's sticking around for the episode.

[[ETM]]

That looks great. I'm looking forward to the first non-silly Xmas special. Davies had a thing for ridiculous grandeur and shallow spectacle in his efforts. Mind you, people loved them, but I don't want another Starship Titanic.

[MadMan]

I thought the spaceship Titantic episode was entertaining, but one of the weakest episodes in the entire modern show's run.

[number8]

Heads up: the first 3 seasons are going off Instant Watch in 3 days.

[MadMan]

I only have on episode left to watch from Season 2, and either PBS will re-air it or I'll just rent the disc that its on. I've viewed the rest of the bunch already, save for Season 5, which I will be watching Disc 1 of tonight.

[MadMan]

The first two episodes of Season 5 were really quite good. I loved the pilot due to the fast pace of the entire episode and the fact that Matt Smith was clearly having fun playing the part-he's already helping me to forget that David Tennant is no longer Dr. Who. Karen Gillan is a fine companion and a good addition to the series as well (and really easy on the eyes, heh). The Beast Below was fairly good, I suppose, but a tad forgettable. Still I already think this season is better than Season 1 and Season 4, which were merely really good rather than great, unlike Season 2 and 3, which I think are the best ones.

[Mara]

I've been completely won over by Matt Smith. He's not Tennant, but he's ridiculously charming in his own way.

Amy... I'm a little less in love with. She's solid, but not amazing.

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Even Tennant is not Tennant - his real name is McDonald, and he had to change it because there already was an actor named David McDonald.

I think Karen Gillan is okay, but I fear that everyone is so smitten by her amazing legs there, that they don't push her hard enough acting-wise.:lol:

[MadMan]

Nah, she's spunky enough to fill the role, and she's way better than Donna Noble at least.

Although those amazing legs sure help matters ;)

[Mara]

I actually loved Donna. She's hilarious, and it was nice to get a break from the pathetically-in-love-with-the-Doctor model of companion.

[Ivan Drago]

I watched the episodes 'Silence in the Library' and 'Forest of the Dead' last night. My mind is still stuck on my bedroom wall.

[Mara]

I watched the episodes 'Silence in the Library' and 'Forest of the Dead' last night. My mind is still stuck on my bedroom wall.

Two of the best. Well-written, original, and visually stunning.

[MadMan]

I actually loved Donna. She's hilarious, and it was nice to get a break from the pathetically-in-love-with-the-Doctor model of companion.I found to be kind of annoying, but she slowly grew on me. And she and the Doctor at the start of the season came to an agreement not to let things get messy because the Doctor is smart enough to learn from his mistakes. Unless it happens again during Season 5 (don't tell me!)


I watched the episodes 'Silence in the Library' and 'Forest of the Dead' last night. My mind is still stuck on my bedroom wall.Aye, both are utterly amazing, and among the best from Season 4.

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I found to be kind of annoying, but she slowly grew on me.

You see, she's a really, REALLY famous comedian, and her stage persona is borderline slap-worthy annoying. When she was announced, everyone was like "Wha?!" because it was such a left field choice, but I thought she was BRILLIANT. A truly welcome change from the "pretty girl perpetual love interest" format, no matter how awesome Rose and Martha were.

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I watched the episodes 'Silence in the Library' and 'Forest of the Dead' last night. My mind is still stuck on my bedroom wall.

Now you know why they asked Moffat to take over the entire show.

[Mara]

I can't get YouTube at work, but her sketch comedy skit about the Ginger Refuge is really worth watching.

[Irish]

I've been completely won over by Matt Smith. He's not Tennant, but he's ridiculously charming in his own way.

Traitor. Tennant is the Doctor.

Smith is a mildly amusing interloper.

[Mara]

Traitor. Tennant is the Doctor.

Smith is a mildly amusing interloper.

Nope, nope. Tennant is the tenth doctor, and Smith is the eleventh doctor.

I'm glad I could be here to help clarify.

[Irish]

Nope, nope. Tennant is the tenth doctor, and Smith is the eleventh doctor.

I'm glad I could be here to help clarify.

Clever girl.

:D

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Everyone has their Doctor, it will always be like that. Doesn't mean we get to hate on other Doctors.

For example, I still truly love Eccleston's Doctor, the bloke from up north with that "daft old face". He was awesome in comedy, and capable of bringing incredible pathos to tragedy. Tennant's been on longer so he gets more respect, but he didn't break ground - Chris did. And boy what a job he did.

[Irish]

;305119']Everyone has their Doctor, it will always be like that. Doesn't mean we get to hate on other Doctors.

For example, I still truly love Eccleston's Doctor, the bloke from up north with that "daft old face". He was awesome in comedy, and capable of bringing incredible pathos to tragedy. Tennant's been on longer so he gets more respect, but he didn't break ground - Chris did. And boy what a job he did.

I liked Eccelston. He really grew on me over the course of his season, and I think it's a shame he left when he did.

My issue with Smith is that he's too young. He doesn't have the chops to do most of the things that Eccelston and Tennant did or are capable of doing.

He's an odd analogy: Smith fits The Doctor like Tom Welling fits Stanley Kowalski in a Streetcar Named Desire. Can they technically perform the part? Sure. Are they going to bring any kind of gravitas or authenticity to the role? Not really, no.

(Granted, part of that is the writing, which was weaker on Smith's debut season than in seasons past).

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He's an odd analogy: Smith fits The Doctor like Tom Welling fits Stanley Kowalski in a Streetcar Named Desire. Can they technically perform the part? Sure. Are they going to bring any kind of gravitas or authenticity to the role? Not really, no.

Ah, but you're missing one crucial point there: Kowalski is a human being. He doesn't get reborn after an incredibly painful and mind-shattering experience into a completely new body. Smith's age is perfect for what he basically has to deal with: the Doctor has just had his whole universe cracked open and destroyed, perhaps more than ever, and he's, in a way, brand new - the slate has been wiped, but he also may not want the past to return, he may want to stay new for longer in some ways. I agree that the writing could have done more with this, but I loved Smith's absent minded approach because that's what I would expect from a young Doctor trying to look forward instead of back into the pain.

[Irish]

;305125']Ah, but you're missing one crucial point there: Kowalski is a human being.

I didn't mean it literally. I meant from a performance angle. Smith is capable of playing the lead on "Doctor Who" (I mean, who isn't, really?) but I think he lacks the ability to generate real emotion, the pathos and anger, that the part sometimes requires.

Take the second episode. At the climax, there's a terrible trade off where the Doctor is forced to choose between killing one life form in order to save another. A character refers to him as "The Doctor" and he snaps back "Don't call me that. No one gets to call me that today."

It's a great line. My trouble with Smith was that his reading of it didn't seem authentic, didn't have the weight needed for the scene, especially if I imagine Eccelston or Tennant in that same episode.

[Thirdmango]

Irish, on this thing, I think you are completely wrong.

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I didn't mean it literally. I meant from a performance angle.

Again - you're thinking in terms of the previous Doctors, and I'm talking about how different his performance HAS to be in order to portray this changed character. It's completely irrelevant how Tennant would have done any scene - that's his Doctor. I guess I'm saying in terms of what the role is now, Smith is doing more than fine. It took me longer than this to fully warm up to Tennant so it's all good, I guess.

[Irish]

;305135']Again - you're thinking in terms of the previous Doctors, and I'm talking about how different his performance HAS to be in order to portray this changed character.

That's an interesting point, but I think you're giving Smith, the writing, and the premise of the show too much credit.

Here's another weird analogy: As performers, I think guys like Eccelston and Tennat would be capable of playing either James T Kirk or Jean Luc Picard, two very different characters but a similar kind of role. Smith doesn't have the ability or experience -- yet -- to do that.

That's my quibble with him. I think you're using the premise ("nth" doctor is a completely different person) as a crutch to excuse a limited performance.

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That's an interesting point, but I think you're giving Smith, the writing, and the premise of the show too much credit.

I think you don't have enough faith in them.


Here's another weird analogy: As performers, I think guys like Eccelston and Tennat would be capable of playing either James T Kirk or Jean Luc Picard, two very different characters but a similar kind of role. Smith doesn't have the ability or experience -- yet -- to do that.

That's my quibble with him. I think you're using the premise ("nth" doctor is a completely different person) as a crutch to excuse a limited performance.

I can't dispute his objective lack of experience - simply hasn't had enough roles prior. But don't get me started on the Trek captains, we'll just disagree further. As for the "crutch" - I have said that I had expected more from the season, but a complete backlash is just wrong. I'm willing to allow Smith to grow before I fully judge him as a Doctor. I'm not going anywhere, and neither is the show.

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Craig Ferguson is so awesome:
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[MadMan]

That's really funny and awesome. I'd love to be in the audience for one of Craig Ferguson's show's.


You see, she's a really, REALLY famous comedian, and her stage persona is borderline slap-worthy annoying. When she was announced, everyone was like "Wha?!" because it was such a left field choice, but I thought she was BRILLIANT. A truly welcome change from the "pretty girl perpetual love interest" format, no matter how awesome Rose and Martha were.Well if that's what they were aiming for, then mission accomplished and all that jazz. My favorite of the companions in the new show is Martha, but the best of the bunch is Rose. Even though they pale in comparison to previous companions like Rarmoa from the old school show.

So far I really dig Smith as the Doctor, but then I have liked all of them, even McCoy and Davidson. PS: Although I haven't seen the Doctor Who movie made in the 90s with Eric Roberts as the Master....

[Thirdmango]

So far I really dig Smith as the Doctor, but then I have liked all of them, even McCoy and Davidson. PS: Although I haven't seen the Doctor Who movie made in the 90s with Eric Roberts as the Master....

Oh man, you mean the Master was created before that? OH MAN. I need to watch me some old who.

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The Master and The Doctor go waaay back.

[Winston*]

Does the Doctor's daughter show up again? If not, what a cop out.

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Does the Doctor's daughter show up again? If not, what a cop out.

Not yet, but she still might.

[Winston*]

;305362']Not yet, but she still might.

Eh. I'm calling cop-out. Shouldn't introduce a character like that into the mythology if you have no plans on how to use them.

[MadMan]

Eh. I'm calling cop-out. Shouldn't introduce a character like that into the mythology if you have no plans on how to use them.I agree with Winston on this one. I'd love to find out that she's out there someone in the universe.

And I've never seen the first episode where the Doctor and the Master met. Not even sure if its available on Netflix, but if it is I'm renting it.

[Mara]

I thought the disposable gorgeous blondes were just a way to keep Tennant supplied with a string of girlfriends.

[Winston*]

Haven't been very impressed by this season so far btw. 6 episodes in. I like Catherine Tate more than I expected to though.

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Eh. I'm calling cop-out. Shouldn't introduce a character like that into the mythology if you have no plans on how to use them.

Davies did shots in the dark all the time, like the brief scene with the ring after the funeral pyre where he allowed for the return of The Master, or the prow of the Titanic crashing through the Tardis, which certainly wasn't a space collision, etc. I suspect if Moffat ever found a use for the Doctor's "daughter", he'd use her in a plot. He's been pretty happy using only his own creations so far, aside from the standard villains.

[Winston*]

The Agatha Christie episode was stupid. Shape up, Doctor Who.

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The Agatha Christie episode was stupid. Shape up, Doctor Who.

Don't worry - for me, it's the worst non-special episode of the show's entire run. It was written by the same guy who did the (good) Shakespeare episode, and he thought he could do it twice.

You have some brilliance coming up.

[Mara]

;305815']

You have some brilliance coming up.

*checks*

Oh, yes, you do.

[Winston*]

;305815']Don't worry - for me, it's the worst non-special episode of the show's entire run. It was written by the same guy who did the (good) Shakespeare episode, and he thought he could do it twice.

You have some brilliance coming up.

I didn't like the Shakespeare episode very much either to be honest.

Good to know it's going to get better.

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I didn't like the Shakespeare episode very much either to be honest.

Compared to this, it's a bloody masterpiece.

[number8]

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^It's on this very page, 8.

[number8]

;307078']^It's on this very page, 8.

I don't like this page.

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I don't like this page.

I like Ferguson's cold opens. The one with Kristen Bell earlier this week was gold.
She rode in on Secretariat later. I love her.

[MadMan]

Okay on the second disc I dug Winston Churchill, but I'm tired of the Darleks for the time being. But of course they're still awesome, and they'll be featured every single season. Oh well. However I rather liked the first half of the two parter with the Weeping Angels returning. It was much creepier than the second half, which was merely solid.

The best episode on the third disc was Amy's Choice. I loved how the Dream Lord was really the dark side of the Doctor, and examined his life and his choices. Plus I do agree that he often doesn't bother to check up on past companions, and many of the people he encounters seem to die.
Vampires of Venice was entertaining, but I like it more when the Doctor goes to another planet, instead of going back in time. Rory is clearly channeling Mickey, but can you blame the guy for feeling threatened by the Doctor? I would, as he's an utterly amazing alien who time travels while you are just a normal human being. So far this season is really quite good, even near great-which would place it alongside Seasons 2 and 3.

After I finish catching up I would like to revisit Seasons 1 and 2, as they are not particularly fresh in my mind at all. Where as I remember Seasons 3 and onward really well.

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Vampires of Venice was entertaining, but I like it more when the Doctor goes to another planet, instead of going back in time.

It was actually shot in Trogir, Croatia, and my girlfriend and I were seriously considering going there during our vacation this summer. It's a magnificent city.

[MadMan]

;307752']It was actually shot in Trogir, Croatia, and my girlfriend and I were seriously considering going there during our vacation this summer. It's a magnificent city.Oh. Well it sure looked nice onscreen, yes.

[Mara]

Well, this is clever.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/480snowdalek.jpg

The toilet plunger and whisk really sell it.

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That's great. I think the original Daleks weren't far from that level of special effects. :D

[Watashi]

6 episodes into the new series and I'm pretty interested. I've had no prior experience with Doctor Who at all. I understand the first season had low production values and lots of camp, but like the first season of Buffy, if I can make it through season 1, I should be fine.

I'm alternating between Buffy and Doctor Who right now. Mara should be proud.

[Mara]

I've never seen anything before the reboot, either. There's too much there. It's intimidating.



I'm alternating between Buffy and Doctor Who right now. Mara should be proud.

*sniff*

I AM.

Where you at with Buffy?

[Watashi]

I've never seen anything before the reboot, either. There's too much there. It's intimidating.



*sniff*

I AM.

Where you at with Buffy?
I just watched Nightmares (which was decent). Even in the bad (or not good) episodes, there is still some great banter between the trio and Giles. It's just that the story feels like a rejected Goosebumps book. My favorite episode so far is probably Angel (but that's mainly for the hotness of Julie Benz).

Still, gotta love how much balls this series has. I don't think I've seen a show that just kills off so many students/teachers in brutal ways. If that happened in real life, the entire school would be shut down.

[Mara]

The season finale is the first good episode. And even season 2 takes a few episode to find its feet.


I don't think I've seen a show that just kills off so many students/teachers in brutal ways. If that happened in real life, the entire school would be shut down.

Jokes about the high death rate in Sunnydale never get old.

"We're proud to say that the Class of '99 has the lowest mortality rate of any graduating class in Sunnydale history!"

[Mara]

Season 1 of Doctor Who was better than I remembered, actually, when I went back and rewatched it. It's still finding its feet, but Eccleson is pretty solid, and Rose, Mickey and Jack are all great characters.

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Season 1 of Doctor Who was better than I remembered, actually, when I went back and rewatched it. It's still finding its feet, but Eccleson is pretty solid, and Rose, Mickey and Jack are all great characters.

I love season one. Eccleston may be overshadowed by Tennant, but he broke the ice on the reboot, and set so many things in motion. I love his take on the character.

[Winston*]

The Library of Babel double episode was really good. Definitely one of the best Doctor Whos. Made up for the mediocre first half of the season.

Was this episode written with the assumption that Tennant was coming back season 5?

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Was this episode written with the assumption that Tennant was coming back season 5?

I don't know. They retconned it with a single scene in S5, if that's what you mean.

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Mekhi Phifer cast in "Torchwood: The New World" (http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/12/14/mekhi-phifer-to-star-in-doctor-who-spinoff-torchwood-the-ne/)

[Mara]

;309416']Mekhi Phifer cast in "Torchwood: The New World" (http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/12/14/mekhi-phifer-to-star-in-doctor-who-spinoff-torchwood-the-ne/)

Aw, they considered Enver Gjokaj? He would have been AMAZING.

[MadMan]

Darlek snowman FTW.

The Silurians were really cool, although that two part story arc was merely good, not great. However Rory dying, (again!) was a huge surprise. Knowing how things work on this show, though, I'm guessing he'll return in the future. According to the Monster Diary extra on the DVD, they appeared in previous Doctor Who episodes-I haven't seen those episodes, so I wasn't familiar with them at all. Cool.

Considering I've soured on some of the back to the past episodes, the Vincent Van Gouth one was actually really awesome. I like that the season has endlessly reminded the viewer about the supposed crack in the wall, which I'm guessing will be resolved by the finale. So I have one more disc coming in the mail, followed by the disc containing Dr. Who Confidential.

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Darlek [...] Vincent Van Gouth

Dude... seriously.

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Aw, they considered Enver Gjokaj? He would have been AMAZING.

I kept hoping they'd give him another role just to get him in there.
I understand the choice of Phifer, though. While not a huge star, he's certainly recognizable.

[Watashi]

Just saw the first truly amazing episode in the Empty Child/Doctor Dances two-parter.

[Mara]

JACK! JACK! JACK!

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Oh yes. Eccleston was on fire by the end of The Doctor Dances.

[MadMan]

;309425']Dude... seriously.
I may have mispelled the artist's name wrong, but I spelled Darlek correctly. Besides, I typed that while drinking. Sorry if I'm not anal about spelling :rolleyes:

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I may have mispelled the artist's name wrong, but I spelled Darlek correctly. Besides, I typed that while drinking. Sorry if I'm not anal about spelling :rolleyes:

You shouldn't drink so much. It's like you're always wasted. ;)
And I'm sorry, but you did misspell "Dalek".

It's not being anal, it's like misspelling "Yoda" or "Rambo".
And as for Van Gogh, well... no excuse.

[Mara]

HUGS. LOVE.

[Winston*]

Peace shall be brought by the news that acting powerhouse Bill Pullman has be been cast in the new Torchwood season.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/bill-pullman-joins-torchwood-as-series-regular,49136/?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_source=channel_tv

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Peace shall be brought by the news that acting powerhouse Bill Pullman has be been cast in the new Torchwood season.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/bill-pullman-joins-torchwood-as-series-regular,49136/?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_source=channel_tv

I just saw that.:lol: I think it's hilarious but can be good.

[Mara]

Dude. WHAT is going on with Torchwood.

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Dude. WHAT is going on with Torchwood.

Merger.

[MadMan]

Give me a break....Rambo and Yoda are not only insanely easy to spell, but they are far more well known than a Dalek. And no I'm not going to bother learning the spelling of some dead artist, no matter how great he was.

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Give me a break....Rambo and Yoda are not only insanely easy to spell, but they are far more well known than a Dalek. And no I'm not going to bother learning the spelling of some dead artist, no matter how great he was.

http://www.force10.co.uk/pics/doublefacepalm.jpg
You know, I give up. I will never, ever mention your spelling again.

[EyesWideOpen]

I'm on episode 8 of Doctor Who season 1 and I've been looking online for some timelines go by for watching the specials and other stuff for the future and I've noticed they usually put Torchwood Season 1 to be watched after Doctor Who Season 1 and before watching Doctor Who Season 2. Does this sound about right?

[Mara]

I think it's actually that TW Season 1 runs parallel to DW Season 3. So, you'd probably want to watch seasons 1 & 2 before trying TW.

I didn't watch them in order.

[[ETM]]

I think it makes no real difference. The Doctor is never mentioned by name on Torchwood, and the continuity only comes into question when Jack crosses paths with him.

[MadMan]

;309868']http://www.force10.co.uk/pics/doublefacepalm.jpg
You know, I give up. I will never, ever mention your spelling again.Good. I was getting really goddamn tired of it.

Tourchwood is a show that I haven't gotten around to watching, namely because I'm more interested in viewing Dr. Who instead. I'll view it in the end mainly for Jack, although I've heard decent things about it.

[[ETM]]

I see what you did there.

[monolith94]

I've never seen anything before the reboot, either. There's too much there. It's intimidating.



Most of them are standalone episodes, though, so shouldn't be that intimidating. I recommend some good stories like The Pyramids of Mars, the Robots of Death, Tomb of the Cybermen, etc. One story worth looking at is "The Five Doctors" as it gives you a little taste of multiple Whos.

[monolith94]

And of course seeing "Genesis of the Daleks" just adds so much to watching any subsequent Dalek story.

[Winston*]

Season 4 finale was awesome.

Weird season: the worst sustained sequence of episodes in the new series followed by the best.

[Winston*]

Didn't realise there's four more Tennant episodes to go. That's neat.

[[ETM]]

They did a series of specials as a transitional period between Davies and Moffat, and Tennant and Smith.

[MadMan]

The more I think about Season 4, the less I like it. I'd say it and Season 1 are tied for the worst season in the new show's run.

Oh and Season 5 was awesome, really. I loved how it ended, and the season finale was great and highly original, actually. Plus it was fun to note all of the aliens that showed up to lock the Doctor away. So many enemies, all working together-crazy.

Also Rory is the best male companion for the Doctor since Mickey. I like how he ranges from being easily scared to then being rather brave. I wonder how Season 6 will turn out, and what arc that one will have. At some point I will get around to revisiting Seasons 1 and 2, as I don't remember those particularly well. I'm starting to think that maybe Season 3 is the best of the bunch, but then Seasons 2 and 5 are also up there as well.

[[ETM]]

A Christmas Carol was beautiful, moving, hilarious, clever, quirky, bizarre, all at the same time.

Oh, and the trailer for the new season is pretty damn cool:
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[[ETM]]

Wow, the special is getting a whole soundtrack album release, and deservedly so - the music is fantastic. Here's "Abigail's Song" - someone filtered out most of the sound effects and put it on Youtube. I was actually in tears during this, just such a wonderful song and performance...
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I'll spoiler it just in case.

[Mara]

The Christmas special was perfect. Just wonderful.

And Matt Smith in a Stetson is... well, I'm recording that episode and keeping it forever.

[EyesWideOpen]

I just started season 2 and one episode in and I'm already loving Tennant.

[[ETM]]

I just started season 2 and one episode in and I'm already loving Tennant.

Allons-y!

[SpaceOddity]

Once the Tardis lands it's part of events and the Doctor can't trip to yesterdays to fix things.

[MadMan]

;312613']A Christmas Carol was beautiful, moving, hilarious, clever, quirky, bizarre, all at the same time.

Oh, and the trailer for the new season is pretty damn cool:
ZBSzVTLS9OEHopefully my friend DV-R-ed it, as I was out of town and therefore unable to watch. And that trailer is fantastic. The Doctor in a cowboy hat=cool. Huh, it appears that River Song is in that season, too. And the Ood return.

[EyesWideOpen]

Three episodes away from the end of season 2. Just finished Love and Monsters, easily my favorite episode of the series so far. Brilliant.

[[ETM]]

Three episodes away from the end of season 2. Just finished Love and Monsters, easily my favorite episode of the series so far. Brilliant.

Heh, awesome. That's probably the least liked episode of the show overall.

[Mara]

Tennant is engaged to marry the girl who played his daughter!

Which is just a tiny bit weird. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CastIncest)

[EyesWideOpen]

Finished season 2. Can't wait to start up season 3. While watching one of the last episodes I thought one of the female characters was adorable and then I just found out that she becomes the companion for season 3 playing the cousin of that character. Yay!

[MadMan]

The "A Christmas Carol" episode was quite possibly one of the best Dr. Who specials. Right up there with other great stand alone Dr. Who specials as The Waters of Mars and The End of Time Parts 1 and 2. Really excellent, I was blown away-and I loved its take on a well known, old story.

[Ivan Drago]

All this praise for the Christmas Carol episode makes me regret I missed it.

[MadMan]

All this praise for the Christmas Carol episode makes me regret I missed it.I think its out on DVD, hopefully. I got lucky that, well, I have BBC America, and that they re-aired it last Saturday on the channel. Which means that I will be able to view the new season when it airs, too, although I'm still tempted to hold off and wait for DVD so I can just blaze right through it. The last time I actually watched a season of the show when episodes were being aired (with commericals) was Season 2, and that was repeats shown on PBS.

[Thirdmango]

If you have comcast it's on their channel 1.

[Mara]

All this praise for the Christmas Carol episode makes me regret I missed it.

Here. (http://www.megavideo.com/?v=9OYOL54X)

[Ivan Drago]

Here. (http://www.megavideo.com/?v=9OYOL54X)

Thanks again for the link. Agree with everyone else, it was amazing.

[EyesWideOpen]

I'm in love with Martha Jones.

[[ETM]]

I'm in love with Martha Jones.

Who isn't?

[MadMan]

;315538']Who isn't?Only crazy people. I still like her the best out of the current new show's batch of companions, although Rose is still the standard. Well Amy is of course really, really awesome, too. Donna, not so much.

[Mara]

I really like Donna. Yeah, I'm the one. I think she's easily the funniest and has the strongest personality of all the new companions. I like the easy, platonic chemistry between her and the Doctor, and I like the break in pace by having a non-romantic-interest, slightly older person in the role.

[[ETM]]

I fully agree with Mara. Donna's dynamic with the Doctor was unique, and a welcome change.

[EyesWideOpen]

Andrew Garfield, Carey Mulligan, Moaning Myrtle. It's like each episode is a surprise.

[Ivan Drago]

Andrew Garfield, Carey Mulligan, Moaning Myrtle. It's like each episode is a surprise.

Andrew Garfield and Carey Mulligan were in Doctor Who? When?

[EyesWideOpen]

Andrew Garfield and Carey Mulligan were in Doctor Who? When?

Season 3

[EyesWideOpen]

Bought this today:

http://www.teefury.com/products_large_images/1293494996_bot_exterminated.jp g

[MadMan]

Season 3Damn, I guess I forgot all about them being in the show.

And that t-shirt is amazing.

[Watashi]

Just watched "The Girl in the Fireplace".

Now that's a fucking episode.

[Mara]

Just watched "The Girl in the Fireplace".

Now that's a fucking episode.

I love that episode.

[EyesWideOpen]

I'm about half way through season 4 and I like that the creators have realized that Donna Noble isn't that interesting so we've already got three Martha Jones episodes in the middle and they're hinting Rose will make an appearance.

[MadMan]

Just watched "The Girl in the Fireplace".

Now that's a fucking episode.One of the best episodes in the show's run. I love how it manages to go from creepy/serious, to comical, then adventurous, and finally heart wrenching drama. All in one single episode.

[EyesWideOpen]

Just finished the Agatha Christie episode. Felicity Jones? Yes, please.

In the last couple episodes we've had both the male and female leads from Ricky Gervais's Cemetery Junction movie.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Just finished the Agatha Christie episode. Felicity Jones? Yes, please.


I've been singing her praises for years. I can't wait until she breaks out. And I think she will. She's stunning.

[[ETM]]

Just finished the Agatha Christie episode. Felicity Jones? Yes, please.

Good to see you found some positives. It's my least favorite episode of the entire series.

[MadMan]

While I like that episode, I find it to be the weakest episode of Season 4.

[EyesWideOpen]

So far I'd rate the seasons in order of my liking:

3
2
4
1

[MadMan]

So far I'd rate the seasons in order of my liking:

3
2
4
1Fantastic. I think you'll really dig 5 a lot.

[EyesWideOpen]

Ok, Journey's End is now my favorite Doctor Who episode. Everything that's great about the series wrapped up in one episode.

[Watashi]

This has probably been asked before many times, but when is the best time to watch Torchwood during the run of Dr. Who? I'm almost done with Season 2.

[[ETM]]

This has probably been asked before many times, but when is the best time to watch Torchwood during the run of Dr. Who? I'm almost done with Season 2.

http://garysaid.com/torchwood-and-doctor-who-time-line/

No spoilers in the opening list, some in the text below.

[Mara]

This has probably been asked before many times, but when is the best time to watch Torchwood during the run of Dr. Who? I'm almost done with Season 2.

I feel obligated to point out that Torchwood starts off pretty shaky. It took them a handful of episodes to figure out what tone they wanted to use, and it took them even longer to get ambitious and interesting.

But it did get ambitious and interesting, and is worth watching.

[EyesWideOpen]

It sucks that netflix has seasons 1-4 up on instant watch and then they have the specials except for the first one Planet of the Dead. So now I have to wait for that one to come on disc.

[Mara]

It sucks that netflix has seasons 1-4 up on instant watch and then they have the specials except for the first one Planet of the Dead. So now I have to wait for that one to come on disc.

Here. (http://www.megavideo.com/?d=5VDEPSWX)

[Thirdmango]

I watched Torchwood after I was done with Doctor Who and really I don't think there was much if any overlap besides just one thing which doesn't really matter.

[EyesWideOpen]

I watched the first two episodes of season 5. I was worried since I really dug Tennant but the new guy is in top form from the start. Looking forward to finally being completely caught up.

[EyesWideOpen]

I decided in between waiting for discs of Doctor Who: Season 5 and Dexter: Season 4 to come I'd start Torchwood. Watched through the first four episodes and it's really good. Starts far stronger then Doctor Who did. These Who-verse shows must have an insight in to women that are exactly my type first Martha Jones and now Gwen Cooper.

[Mara]

Man, if you liked the first four, then you're really going to like the series, because I think those are the weakest episodes. Especially Cyberwoman, which I hated. It starts getting more polished and nuanced.

[number8]

July 8, 2011.

Torchwood: Miracle Day.

ZOMG.

[number8]

Haha, Bill Pullman and Mekhi Phifer are in this?

[Mara]

July 8, 2011.

Torchwood: Miracle Day.

ZOMG.

Awesome.

[number8]

The plot sounds awesome.

[Mara]

Dichen Lachman (aka just about the prettiest girl ever) will be on it, too.

And Jane Espenson is writing.

This could be very, very good.

[[ETM]]

Dichen Lachman (aka just about the prettiest girl ever) will be on it, too.

And Jane Espenson is writing.

This could be very, very good.

Shawna Trpcic is also doing the costumes.

I've been following the proceedings on Twitter, Espenson is seriously loving every minute of it. It sounds like it will be major fun. I'm not a huge fan of Pullman but I can see him as a pedophile psycho sentenced to death.

[Thirdmango]

I'm very excited for this. I love world wide catastrophes.

[[ETM]]

The poster sucks, though (http://www.endofshow.com/2011/03/23/torchwood-miracle-day-launch-date-plot-details-poster-revealed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EndOfShow +%28END+OF+SHOW%29)

[[ETM]]

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Neil Gaiman says one of Matt's lines in the trailer is from his episode. I wonder which one.

[Ivan Drago]

In the far right of the screen at :37...that can't be...no...

[[ETM]]

In the far right of the screen at :37...that can't be...no...

It IS the old TARDIS in that shot...

[Thirdmango]

There has been some speculation that the eighth doctor might show up this season so...

Also that moment on the old TARDIS looks like a regeneration. I wonder if it'll be The Doctor explaining his eventual death to Amy Pond instead of just letting it be a surprise to all of his companions.

[MadMan]

I'm tired of waiting for April 23rd to come, damnit.

[Winston*]

Didn't like Planet of the Dead very much. Kinda dull. The Waters of Mars was pretty good though. That Tennant Doctor's coming apart at the seams.

[[ETM]]

Didn't like Planet of the Dead very much. Kinda dull.

I don't really like any of Davies' specials.

[MadMan]

Planet of the Dead is the worst of the specials I've seen (I think there are a few ones I haven't gotten a chance to view, like the one where Tennant's Doctor met one of his previous selves).

[Winston*]

The first part of The End of Time is the weirdest episode of Doctor Who I've seen. Very odd tone.

[MadMan]

The first part of The End of Time is the weirdest episode of Doctor Who I've seen. Very odd tone.
Everyone becomes The Master! :lol: Plus Timothy Dalton as a Time Lord. Fantastic.

[Winston*]

The second part was really good, if a bit over drawn out. Tennant's final line killed me.

[MadMan]

Now that I think about it, Part I is better than Part II. But that ending to Part II....just really emotional, and what happens is really surprising. I don't remember what Tennant's final line was, though.

[Winston*]

I don't remember what Tennant's final line was, though.

"I don't want to go"

[Winston*]

3 episodes into the new Doctor. Not really feeling it yet.

[Mara]

I'm actively antsy for the next season to start. Can't wait.

[MadMan]

"I don't want to go"Oh, thanks. Yeah that entire scene was a really touching, sad moment.

Mara I'm also really tired of waiting for Series 6 to being. Luckily for me I know one other person in real life who's a huge fan of Dr. Who-he owns a ton of episodes from the old show on DVD, and even the craptastic Dr. Who movie that came out in 1996. He likes the new show well enough, but not as much as I do, and hopefully he finishes Series 5 in time although I guess he does have DVR and can tape the new show and watch it anytime he wants.

I'll miss watching the series quickly and all the way through on DVD, but I'm glad I have BBC America this time around.

[[ETM]]

Elisabeth Sladen (Sarah Jane Smith) has died at the age of 63... :sad:
EDIT: I forgot about the Obit thread, sorry...

http://www.scifiscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/tom_baker_elisabeth_sladen.jpg

http://shop.sfbevents.com/images/autographs/sladen%20elisabeth%201.jpg

[MadMan]

I wasn't a fan of her current show, but she was a great Doctor's companion. RIP.

[Winston*]

How come in the first Angels episode they send you back in time when they get you, but in the more recent appearance they just kill you?

That double episode was pretty cool, anyways.

[[ETM]]

How come in the first Angels episode they send you back in time when they get you, but in the more recent appearance they just kill you?

They feed off the "potential energy" by sending you to before your birth and stealing your life. Time travel uses up a lot of energy, and the ones in the two parter were starved and immobile for ages, and were just coming alive from the leaking radiation of the crashed ship.

[Winston*]

;340143']They feed off the "potential energy" by sending you to before your birth and stealing your life. Time travel uses up a lot of energy, and the ones in the two parter were starved and immobile for ages, and were just coming alive from the leaking radiation of the crashed ship.
Fair enough.

The Scottish girl is very nice looking but I'm not sure she's a very convincing actress.

[Mara]

The Scottish girl is very nice looking but I'm not sure she's a very convincing actress.

She's fine. Not my favorite, but okay. She has great hair.

Side note: in "Daleks in Manhattan" and "Evolution of the Daleks," that sweet kid from Tennessee who Martha befriends is Andrew Garfield, the new Spiderman.

I can totally see him as Peter Parker. Spiderman? ...maybe.

[Mara]

I was talking with my sister yesterday-- with whom I spend a copious amount of time-- and I mentioned The Doctor. It turns out that not only did she not know that I watch the show, she's never even heard of it.

I feel like I failed as a sister.

[[ETM]]

The season opener was definitely something... the second part looks to be killer, but I can't help but notice Moffat seems to be using a lot of similar elements in many of his Who stories. I wonder how intentional it is.

[Thirdmango]

Moffat is a genius.

[Winston*]

This vampire fish episode is really dumb. Are there any good episodes set prior to the 20th century?

[Mara]

This vampire fish episode is really dumb.

A pity, because I thought it was one of the best-looking episodes.


Are there any good episodes set prior to the 20th century?

I don't dislike them generally. Some are better than others. I remember particularly liking the Van Gough one, which I think you have coming up.

[Thirdmango]

I watched the first 1.5 episodes of "The Three Doctors". It wasn't very good. I'm thinking I might try and get a hold of "The Five Doctors."

[[ETM]]

A pity, because I thought it was one of the best-looking episodes.

Indeed.

[Mara]

Ooh, caught up. Very intrigued. I think River and Rory may be getting supporting noms from me in the Cutties.

Mind you, that doesn't mean I trust River Song. I don't.

[amberlita]

Decided to watch some of the Dr. Who marathon. Never seen a single episode until now. Just one question: what the hell is going on? I showed up half way thru an episode about evil angel statues and stopped after the alien vampire fish. I just.....I'm very confused.

But Matt Smith is very charming. He has a weird looking face, but that's probably intentional. He is pretty much the only reason I'm going to try and watch more. I have the "Doctor Who Rewind" dvr'd as well as the season premiere. I'm hoping the former can help clear some things up.

[Mara]

Decided to watch some of the Dr. Who marathon. Never seen a single episode until now. Just one question: what the hell is going on? I showed up half way thru an episode about evil angel statues and stopped after the alien vampire fish. I just.....I'm very confused.

But Matt Smith is very charming. He has a weird looking face, but that's probably intentional. He is pretty much the only reason I'm going to try and watch more. I have the "Doctor Who Rewind" dvr'd as well as the season premiere. I'm hoping the former can help clear some things up.

I'd really recommend starting back with the 2005 reboot if you can. It's on Netflix instant, and it is kind to first-time viewers with giving generous background information.

The vampire fish episode is bad. Please don't judge the show by it.

I find Matt Smith very attractive, despite his odd face. David Tennant was gorgeous as the Doctor, though.

[MadMan]

Saturday's episode started out a bit erratic, but then settled in and was fairly entertaining. I wonder if the current storyline is just going to last only one more episode, or if it will carry on for a few more. Especially with what really went down in The Impossible Astronaut.

Getting to watch some of Series 5 again, and also revisiting the Christmas special was really cool, too. amber when you start the reboot, bear in mind that Series 1 is merely solid at best, although I really like it anyways. Series 2 is where the show gets truly good/great, and the writing improves.

[Mara]

amber when you start the reboot, bear in mind that Series 1 is merely solid at best, although I really like it anyways. Series 2 is where the show gets truly good/great, and the writing improves.

This is true. Season 1 isn't a waste of time, but it's finding its feet.

Also, I just rewatched "Blink" and it is one of the single best episodes of television I've ever seen. Top ten, easy.

[[ETM]]

I love season 1. I still think Eccleston put in some of the finest work on the show ever. Sure, there's more than your fair share of goofy in the storylines, but his Doctor was the one that created the foundation for the reboot - there'd be no tenth or eleventh Doctor if it wasn't for him.

[Winston*]

Gridlock is probably my favourite one off Doctor Who episode.

[Mara]

Gridlock is probably my favourite one off Doctor Who episode.

It's really good.

But "Blink" is amazing.

[Mara]

Also, every single time Jack tries to sex someone up and The Doctor tells him to cut it out, I giggle. Joke doesn't get old.

[MadMan]

Don't get me wrong: Eccleston was really great. But some of the episodes felt weak in Series 1.

When I buzzed through Series 3, I made the mistake of viewing Blink at 3 am in the morning. Never again.

[[ETM]]

Season 6 premiere was BBC America's highest rated telecast ever (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/04/25/doctor-who-season-premiere-is-bbc-americas-highest-rated-telecast-ever/90505)

I hoped for bigger numbers, but this is awesome.

[Watashi]

FINALLY finished Season 1 of Torchwood. I've liked it better than any season of Dr. Who so far. "Captain Jack Harkness" is such a goddamn amazing episode.

[Mara]

FINALLY finished Season 1 of Torchwood. I've liked it better than any season of Dr. Who so far. "Captain Jack Harkness" is such a goddamn amazing episode.

You're in luck, because Season 1 of TW is the weakest. It gets more amazing in Season 2.

[Mara]

I had forgotten how hilarious the first mimed conversation between the Doctor and Donna is when they reconnect in Season 4.

Also, I love Donna. Suck it, haters.

[[ETM]]

Also, I love Donna. Suck it, haters.

I love her too. A LOT.

[Mara]

I haven't disliked any of the companions, but I found the handling of Martha's character a little frustrating. For one thing, having her be a doctor was a redundant skill set. The Doctor was going to be better than her at everything, so why have her be a doctor?

For another, I was irritated by her constant second-best placement to Rose. It didn't track that a woman so smart and in control would allow herself to be so marginalized (which is why I'm glad she gave The Doctor a stern talking-to before she left him.)

[[ETM]]

I love Martha but I agree, she should have been more than what was given to her.

[Mara]

If I were to create a companion, I would give him or her a skill set that The Doctor doesn't have-- be a brilliant painter, or a concert violinist, or a ballet dancer. Something that could be impressive without being competitive.

[Mara]

Doing pliés on the edge of the TARDIS controls. Tell me that's not funny.

[MadMan]

I had forgotten how hilarious the first mimed conversation between the Doctor and Donna is when they reconnect in Season 4.

Also, I love Donna. Suck it, haters.That bit was actually hilarious. Donna's strong suit was comedy. Drama, eh.

I liked Martha, but I agree with Mara about the Doctor's handling of her to a certain extent. It was indeed not fair for her to be compared to Rose, especially considering that Rose spent more time with the Doctor than she did, and thus was able to be more "in tune" with his personality. Series 3 featured a lot of moments where the Doctor wasn't able to move on, and only towards the middle of the series did he really trust her fully and completely like he did with Rose. Shit got complicated, I guess.

[Winston*]

I liked the episode with the "Dream Lord".

[Winston*]

Doctor Who > Movies

[Mara]

Gee. "The Unicorn and the Wasp" is pretty dumb.

[monolith94]

If I were to create a companion, I would give him or her a skill set that The Doctor doesn't have-- be a brilliant painter, or a concert violinist, or a ballet dancer. Something that could be impressive without being competitive.

How about a slick con-artist style companion?

Also, MUST see next episode. Stupid CLIFFHANGERS!!! :frustrated:

[MadMan]

Gee. "The Unicorn and the Wasp" is pretty dumb.Yeah that's one of the worst episodes in the series run. I enjoyed it somewhat, just because of the Doctor, but that was about it.

Heh, the whole clifthanger business going on with the show right now reminds me of the old show, which was clifthangers galore. Its why I try not to watch old episodes on Instant Viewing unless I have time to go through them all right away-its tough to quit when you want to know what happens next.

[Mara]

How about a slick con-artist style companion?


Captain Jack was a leeetle bit like that. But yes, a trickster, a card shark and pool player, a bluffster-- that would be really fun.

[Mara]

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[[ETM]]

He could use "well..." like six times in a single sentence that man.

[Mara]

;341709']He could use "well..." like six times in a single sentence that man.

It plays with your mind. You start thinking, "My word, what does 'well' even mean when not an adverb, or a spot from which one draws water? WHAT PART OF SPEECH IS IT?"







It's an interjection, by the way. A "an ejaculatory utterance usually lacking grammatical connection."






Hee hee hee. "Ejaculatory."

[[ETM]]

Hee hee hee. "Ejaculatory."

It'd be funny if someone actually yelled "Well..." in that precise moment.

[Mara]

;341711']It'd be funny if someone actually yelled "Well..." in that precise moment.

Talk about a "nerdgasm."

*snickers*

[monolith94]

Captain Jack was a leeetle bit like that. But yes, a trickster, a card shark and pool player, a bluffster-- that would be really fun.
Yeah, but Cap'n Jack was pretty proficient with technology, right? The sort of character I'm thinking would be the sort of person who'd be good at reading and understanding people, but not necessarily circuits.

[Thirdmango]

Amy Pond's daughter being a possible time lord? Awesome.

[Mara]

Amy Pond's daughter being a possible time lord? Awesome.

I'm a little wary about The Doctor suddenly becoming a sexualized being, which they've really avoided. The implication that he's possibly the father of Amy's baby, and his relationship with River Song, feel like they're rewriting history a little bit.

That said, some of the stuff this episode was a scary and creepy as anything on the show. Jeepers.

[Thirdmango]

I'm a little wary about The Doctor suddenly becoming a sexualized being, which they've really avoided. The implication that he's possibly the father of Amy's baby, and his relationship with River Song, feel like they're rewriting history a little bit.


I'm actually pretty sure they're not going to have it be the doctor's baby. More so that it's because of being pregnant during time travel not that it's because of genetics.

[Mara]

So, it turns out that the scene where the Silence are sleeping like bats and Amy sees her face covered in little marks in the window reflection is the scene that is going to haunt my nightmares. 'Cause you better believe I just dreamed about that.

[MadMan]

That two episode arc was really dark. The Silence were just as freaky as the Weeping Angels were. That final scene really blew my mind, too. Great start to the season, and I'm eagerly awaiting next week's episode. I love pirates.=Just in case anyone didn't want to know about next week's episode. They showed a preview after last night's episode.

[amberlita]

I'm feeling the love for this show now. I don't have the time to start from the reboot, but I did watch "Blink" and it was indeed fantastic. I'm trying to catch up a bit on last season though, so the premise of the show is making more sense.

Except for River Song and her timeline with the Doctor. They are meeting in reverse order? How does this make sense at all? In fact, I realize now I understand maybe half of what I see on this show but I'm loving it all the same.

Relieved there won't be any extended love triangle with Rory, Amy and The Doctor.

And whoever writes the score for this show is fantastic.

Matt Smith is delicious and I'm falling in love with him.

That's all.

[[ETM]]

Except for River Song and her timeline with the Doctor. They are meeting in reverse order? How does this make sense at all?

They are both time travelers. She met him first when he was much older and had adventures and perhaps a fling. Then she kept meeting him earlier and earlier in his life. Watch the brilliant two-parter "Silence in the Library" + "Forrest of the Dead", as it's her first appearance.


And whoever writes the score for this show is fantastic.

Murray Gold. He rules. (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0325050/)
I have all the soundtracks, and many of the tracks are among my all time favorites in anything. Listen to this, for example:
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I love the scene where the Doctor describes his home to his Martha and Jack, and this accompanies it. Still gives me shivers.

[Mara]

I'm feeling the love for this show now. I don't have the time to start from the reboot, but I did watch "Blink" and it was indeed fantastic. I'm trying to catch up a bit on last season though, so the premise of the show is making more sense.

Except for River Song and her timeline with the Doctor. They are meeting in reverse order? How does this make sense at all? In fact, I realize now I understand maybe half of what I see on this show but I'm loving it all the same.

Relieved there won't be any extended love triangle with Rory, Amy and The Doctor.

And whoever writes the score for this show is fantastic.

Matt Smith is delicious and I'm falling in love with him.

That's all.

You're a good woman, Miss Amber.

I've been rewatching Doctor Who a little while doing another project, and even I find River confusing. But the rewatch actually helped clarify some of their convoluted relationship.

So, I approve of all these statements.

[Mara]

Is Rory my favorite companion ever? Maybe. Rory is pretty terrific.

[MadMan]

Is Rory my favorite companion ever? Maybe. Rory is pretty terrific.My favorite is still Mickey, but yeah Rory really is awesome. His insecurity is adorable and quite funny-especially in the second episode of Series 6, where Amy has to remind him for the millionth time that she choose him, not the Doctor.

[Mara]

My favorite is still Mickey, but yeah Rory really is awesome. His insecurity is adorable and quite funny-especially in the second episode of Series 6, where Amy has to remind him for the millionth time that she choose him, not the Doctor.

It's not like he has no reason to be jealous. She tried to seduce him last year, right before she was supposed to get married. Plus, he's Matt Smith and he's adorable.

My favorite thing about Mickey was how openly the Doctor and Jack both mocked him and acted like they disliked him. Poor Mickey.

[MadMan]

It's not like he has no reason to be jealous. She tried to seduce him last year, right before she was supposed to get married. Plus, he's Matt Smith and he's adorable.Well yes, but she still married him, and by the "Amy" episode, had made it rather clear that she choose him. Although The Doctor (and Matt Smith, too) is rather awesome-its hard to compete with the guy.


My favorite thing about Mickey was how openly the Doctor and Jack both mocked him and acted like they disliked him. Poor Mickey.Yep. And then by Series 2 he had turned into a badass, which was rather unexpected and cool. The Doctor finally gave him some respect in Series 4 when he showed up again, although he gave him a gentle, funny ribbing first.

[Mara]

Okay, let's talk about River.

They can't be perfectly inverted. That doesn't make sense. Besides, we know he hasn't given her his sonic screwdriver yet, because he still has it, but we know that he gave it to her the second-to-last time they met. So their meetings must be scattershot.

River didn't seem to recognize Amy in "The Time of Angels," or at the very least didn't greet her, so it seems like "The Impossible Astronaut" must happen after that. Wait-- did River know Amy in "The Pandorica Opens"? I CAN'T REMEMBER. The scattershot timeline is making me crazy.

Anyway, if they're not perfectly inverted there's no way for her to know if that is the last time she kisses him or not. Also, it destroys that nice "He's forgetting me" tragedy they have going.

Also, just for the record, Alex Kingston is twenty years older than Matt Smith and still aging. Assuming she stays around through another regeneration (which would make sense, since she seemed familiar with more than two of his faces) she's not going to be able to pass for being younger and younger at their encounters. Blonde hair ain't youth.



Has it occurred to anyone else that...

Future River could be in the space suit, be the one to kill the doctor, and then that's what she could be in prison for? She said she killed the greatest man she'd ever known... how can that NOT be The Doctor?

[Mara]

Someone made a chart through the end of season 5.

http://daleksinmanhattan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Timeline3.png

[Mara]

This one is even more convoluted, but fun to click.

http://www.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk/features/river-songs-diary/?from=footer

[Mara]

The Eleventh Doctor is less forgiving and more willing to kill than the Tenth. He's still a pacifist, it seems, but he's gotten a little harder.

[NickGlass]

I figured this would be fun for fans of the show:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/04/watch_doctor_who_castmates_cha .html

It was filmed at my friend's skateboard shop in NYC.

[Mara]

I figured this would be fun for fans of the show:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/04/watch_doctor_who_castmates_cha .html

It was filmed at my friend's skateboard shop in NYC.

Coooool.

Karen, honey, that eye make-up makes you look like a stripper. I say with love.

[MadMan]

Future River could be in the space suit, be the one to kill the doctor, and then that's what she could be in prison for? She said she killed the greatest man she'd ever known... how can that NOT be The Doctor?That's what I keep thinking. We'll probably find out only at the end of Series 6, I imagine.

[Mara]

Just watched the comic relief specials from between the seasons. I hadn't seen them, because I figured, what could happen in eight minutes?

What could happen in eight minutes: Amy considers having sex with herself.

You're welcome.