Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile (Joe Berlinger)

[Grouchy]

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[Grouchy]

Unlike most reviewers, I found this very good, solid drama even beyond the excellent Efron performance. I love the approach they took through the eyes of Bundy's girlfriends and I'm surprised they didn't have to water down facts for PC concerns.

[megladon8]

I felt like the filmmakers thought Bundy was kind of cool.

It was pretty gross.

[TGM]

Every time I see this movie’s title, it makes me think of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. :p

[Ivan Drago]

Every time I see this movie’s title, it makes me think of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. :p

Lol, same here.

[Grouchy]

Every time I see this movie’s title, it makes me think of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. :p
Hahah agreed.


I felt like the filmmakers thought Bundy was kind of cool.

It was pretty gross.
Seriously? I can't see this type of reading. I mean, the movie sticks to the facts and chooses an outsider's approach to show the amount of people who truly believed in Bundy's innocence for no other reason than his psycho charm.

[megladon8]

It felt to me like the movie wasn’t showing it as “psycho charm”, but actual genuine charm and “hey this guy was pretty cool!”

If it weren’t for the montage at the end showing him actually killing people, I would’ve sworn the filmmakers thought he was innocent.

[Grouchy]

I'm not pointing at you in particular or accusing you of anything, but the problem I have with that kind of criticism is that I feel it could actually, in real life, intimidate other creators from taking unusual creative angles with difficult subject matter. The movie is based on a book by Bundy's wife and presents someone we know to be a murderer from the viewpoint of a disturbingly large number of women who fell under his spell. The approach they took makes sense with that story, but by casting a shadow of doubt over the writer's intentions I think we run the risk of bending the tide towards more preachy, sanitized drama and less challenging movies.

[megladon8]

I'm not pointing at you in particular or accusing you of anything, but the problem I have with that kind of criticism is that I feel it could actually, in real life, intimidate other creators from taking unusual creative angles with difficult subject matter. The movie is based on a book by Bundy's wife and presents someone we know to be a murderer from the viewpoint of a disturbingly large number of women who fell under his spell. The approach they took makes sense with that story, but by casting a shadow of doubt over the writer's intentions I think we run the risk of bending the tide towards more preachy, sanitized drama and less challenging movies.

It’s not the writing at all, it’s the filmmaking.

American Psycho presents Bateman as a horrible monster devoid of any semblance of humanity, while also being a likeable and charismatic protagonist. It’s very clear that the filmmakers are enjoying watching him, but still find him deplorable.

This film seems like they think Bundy was kind of a cool, fun dude. Sure he killed some people but whatevs...check out that smile!

[Grouchy]

But where do you get that from? Just the fact that we don't see the murders taking place? Zac Efron's performance or regular screen persona? I don't get that from the film at all. I get more of a look at how sociopaths like him blend into relationships.

[megladon8]

The film doesn’t show the story from the perspective of the women, it shows them as side characters and Bundy is very much the protagonist. Seeing all of these events from his point of view robs them of the reality that he was a monster. We only see him professing his innocence and seeming like a decent guy.

[Grouchy]

The film doesn’t show the story from the perspective of the women, it shows them as side characters and Bundy is very much the protagonist. Seeing all of these events from his point of view robs them of the reality that he was a monster. We only see him professing his innocence and seeming like a decent guy.
Dude, the film is most definitively not from Bundy's point of view and absolutely from his wife's perspective. That's why all we see of the murders is a single photograph given to her by a cop. We occassionally share other POVs, like Carole Ann's, but we always cut back to his ex-wife living her life and watching the case on TV.

I get that you don't like it but I don't see how you can argue it's shot from Bundy's POV.