MC Yearly Consensus - 1948

[Spinal]

Submit your five favorite films from this year and in a week I will give you a top ten. IMDb dates will be used.

The point system is as follows

1st Place-5 points
2nd Place-4 points
3rd Place-3.5 points
4th Place-3 points
5th Place-2.5 points

There will be no restrictions on short films. A minimum of three films must be listed. You may edit your post freely up until the time that the thread is locked, which will be in about a week. I will give at least 24 hours warning before tallying votes.

You may begin now.

IMDB Power Search (http://www.imdb.com/list)

[Spinal]

1. The Bicyle Thief
2. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
3. Hamlet

[Russ]

1. Rope
2. Red River
3. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
4. Sorry, Wrong Number
5. The Snake Pit

[Boner M]

1. The Red Shoes (Powell & Pressburger)
2. Moonrise (Borzage)
3. The Bicycle Thief (De Sica)
4. Unfaithfully Yours (Sturges)
5. They Live By Night (Ray)

6. Rope (Hitchcock)
7. Force of Evil (Polonsky)
8. Red River (Hawks)
9. Portrait of Jennie (Dieterle)
10. Letter From an Unknown Woman (Ophuls)

What a great year!

[Weeping_Guitar]

1. The Bicycle Thief
2. Unfaithfully Yours
3. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
4. The Red Shoes
5. Portrait of Jennie

[Mysterious Dude]

1. Germany Year Zero
2. Bicycle Thieves
3. The Naked City
4. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
5. The Search

6. The Quiet One
7. The Snake Pit
8. Drunken Angel
9. Force of Evil
10. Rope

[monolith94]

1. The Bicycle Thief
2. The Red Shoes
3. Portrait of Jennie
4. Red River
5. The Quiet One
HMs: Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Macbeth

[Melville]

1. Rope
2. They Live by Night
3. The Red Shoes
4. Force of Evil

[SirNewt]

1. Rope
2. Red River
3. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
4. Sorry, Wrong Number
5. The Snake Pit

Nice, I've been told I should see this.

Anyway,

1. Bicycle Thieves
2. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
3. The Red Shoes
4. Hamlet
5. The Fallen Idol

I need to see La Terra Trema.

[Kurosawa Fan]

1. Call Northside 777
2. Rope
3. Red River
4. Key Largo
5. Sorry, Wrong Number

I have Hamlet and Johnny Belinda recorded on my DVR, so I'll try to get to at least one of them before this ends.

[Boner M]

1. Call Northside 777
Wow, really? I thought it was the mehest of all mehs.

[Yxklyx]

1. The Red Shoes (Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger)
2. The Big Clock (John Farrow)
3. Rope (Alfred Hitchcock)
4. The Fallen Idol (Carol Reed)
5. Portrait of Jennie (William Dieterle)

6. They Live by Night (Nicholas Ray)
7. Drunken Angel (Akira Kurosawa)
8. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (John Huston)
9. Oliver Twist (David Lean)
10. Red River (Howard Hawks)

[Yxklyx]

People need to see:

The Big Clock

P.S. Is Bicycle Thieves the sequel to the The Bicycle Thief? ;)

[Spinal]

P.S. Is Bicycle Thieves the sequel to the The Bicycle Thief? ;)

Bicycle 3 was all right, but Bicycle Resurrection was a complete joke.

[Boner M]

2 Bicycles 2 Thieves was my favorite installment.

[baby doll]

1. Letter From an Unknown Woman (Max Ophuls)
2. The Red Shoes (Michael Powell / Emeric Pressburger)
3. Bicycle Thieves (Vittorio De Sica)
4. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (John Huston)
5. The Pirate (Vincente Minnelli)

[baby doll]

Wait, so no one else is voting for Letter From an Unknown Woman (which would be in my all-time top ten)?

[Yxklyx]

Wait, so no one else is voting for Letter From an Unknown Woman (which would be in my all-time top ten)?

Netflix doesn't carry it. Is the 2004 remake any good?

[baby doll]

Netflix doesn't carry it. Is the 2004 remake any good?I bought the DVD in Chinatown a few years back but it didn't have subtitles, so until it comes out in Region 1 or I learn to speak Mandarin, I couldn't tell ya.

[baby doll]

Anyway, I searched for Letter From an Unknown Woman torrent (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&q=letter+from+an+unknown+woman +torrent) on Google, and these are the results I got.

[MadMan]

I need to see more from this year.

1. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
2. Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein
3. Key Largo

[Yxklyx]

Anyway, I searched for Letter From an Unknown Woman torrent (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&q=letter+from+an+unknown+woman +torrent) on Google, and these are the results I got.

Actually, Amazon sells a region 1 dvd but I don't blind buy dvds any more.

[Philosophe_rouge]

Wait, so no one else is voting for Letter From an Unknown Woman (which would be in my all-time top ten)?
Not a fan, although it is beautiful to look at. Joan Fontaine rubs me the wrong way unfortunately.

Really good year, tough to narrow it down.

1. The Red Shoes
2. Portrait of Jennies
3. Unfaithfully Yours
4. Red River
5. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

[Boner M]

Wait, so no one else is voting for Letter From an Unknown Woman (which would be in my all-time top ten)?
I liked it (my #10), but I didn't feel challenged by it. ;)

[Lazlo]

1. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
2. Red River
3. Key Largo
4. Bicycle Thieves

[Kurosawa Fan]

Wow, really? I thought it was the mehest of all mehs.

Well, sometimes in these ballots I like to give an underseen/underappreciated film a bit of a boost by placing it higher than I normally would. This would be one of those cases. Still, I liked it very much, though I'm a sucker for nearly all things noir and Jimmy Stewart.

[SirNewt]

Wow, really? I thought it was the mehest of all mehs.

The mehest of all mehs. . . That's an absolute mediocrity. My mind is reeling from double meanings and paradoxes.

[dreamdead]

I should get to Nicholas Ray's They Live By Night, so I'm holding off until then. And now that I know that Ophuls' film is available I will have to seriously consider a blind buy at some point, though it won't help for this consensus...

[ledfloyd]

1. Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein
2. Treasure of the Sierra Madre
3. Key Largo
4. Bicycle Thieves

I need to see Macbeth. I need to see the rest of The Red Shoes. I can't remember a thing about They Live by Night.

[Eleven]

1. Force of Evil
2. Rope
3. Portrait of Jennie
4. Bicycle Thieves / Thief
5. Germany Year Zero

HMs: Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Drunken Angel, Stage Fright, Unfaithfully Yours.

[Raiders]

1. Portrait of Jennie
2. Force of Evil
3. The Red Shoes
4. Letter from an Unknown Woman
5. They Live By Night

[soitgoes...]

1. Germania anno zero (Roberto Rossellini)
2. The Bicycle Thieves (Vittorio De Sica)
3. Portrait of Jennie (William Dieterle)
4. Letter from an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls)
5. They Live by Night (Nicholas Ray)

There you go baby doll.

[Qrazy]

1. The Bicycle Thief (the importance and brilliance of this cannot be overstated)
2. The Red Shoes (best powell/pressburger)
3. Letter from an Unknown Woman
4. Treasure of the Sierra Madre
5. Germany Year Zero

6. Rope
7. Red River
8. Drunken Angel
9. Oliver Twist
10. Unfaithfully Yours

Amazing year, still tons I want to see.

[SirNewt]

1. The Bicycle Thief (the importance and brilliance of this cannot be overstated)


truth

[Grouchy]

1. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
2. Red River
3. Fort Apache
4. The Big Clock
5. The Bycicle Thief

I'm probably being facetious with the Bycicle movie. I figure it's gonna win the consensus anyway, so I took the opportunity to highlight other movies like Red River and The Big Clock.

[Melville]

Rep to the man who can tell me the price of a dozen eggs and a quart of milk in 1948.

[Ezee E]

1. The Bicycle Thief
2. Force of Evil
3. Rope
4. Treasure of the Sierra Madre

[Kurosawa Fan]

Rep to the man who can tell me the price of a dozen eggs and a quart of milk in 1948.

Best I could come up with:

Car: $1,550
Gasoline: 26 cents/gal
House: $13,500
Bread: 14 cents/loaf
Milk: 86 cents/gal
Postage Stamp: 3 cents
Stock Market: 177
Average Annual Salary: $3,600
Minimum Wage: 40 cents per hour

[Melville]

Best I could come up with:

Car: $1,550
Gasoline: 26 cents/gal
House: $13,500
Bread: 14 cents/loaf
Milk: 86 cents/gal
Postage Stamp: 3 cents
Stock Market: 177
Average Annual Salary: $3,600
Minimum Wage: 40 cents per hour
Close enough. I'm amazed that the price of milk was so high compared to that of bread. Why has bread been keeping pace with inflation while milk's cost only quadrupled over 60 years?

[dreamdead]

1. The Red Shoes
2. Bicycle Thieves
3. Portrait of Jennie
4. They Live by Night
5. The Fallen Idol

[Melville]

Close enough. I'm amazed that the price of milk was so high compared to that of bread. Why has bread been keeping pace with inflation while milk's cost only quadrupled over 60 years?
Oh, wait, that price for milk was probably necessary to pay the milk man's wages. So it all makes sense.

[SirNewt]

Oh, wait, that price for milk was probably necessary to pay the milk man's wages. So it all makes sense.

Actually there is more to it than that. Commodities are highly subsidized so their prices rarely reflect a real market value. Also, technology improvements don't allow for uniform change in price. Some agg. markets have seen greater increases in efficiency because of technology than others.

[Melville]

Actually there is more to it than that. Commodities are highly subsidized so their prices rarely reflect a real market value.
When I first saw the price of milk, I was going to write "God bless America's subsidized farming industry, which provides us with food both plentiful and cheap." But then I noticed that the price of bread has actually scaled with wages. So is milk today more heavily subsidized than wheat? Has the dairy industry outpaced the wheat industry in technological innovation? Or is it the modern super-cows with their bursting udders that have kept the milk prices down?

[Qrazy]

Or is it the modern super-cows with their bursting udders that have kept the milk prices down?

Ten to one odds in favor of this option.

[Spinal]

Top Songs of 1948:

1. "Buttons and Bows" - Dinah Shore
2. "Nature Boy" - Nat King Cole
3. "I'm Looking Over a Four Leaf Clover" - Art Mooney
4. "A Tree In The Meadow" - Margaret Whiting
5. "Ballerina" - Vaughn Monroe
6. "Manana (Is Soon Enough For Me)" - Peggy Lee
7. "Twelfth Street Rag" - Pee Wee Hunt
8. "Woody Woodpecker" - Kay Kyser
9. "You Call Everybody Darlin'" - Al Trace
10. "You Can't Be True, Dear" - Ken Griffin

source: popularsong.org

[Sycophant]

I can't vote because I'm too lame to have seen The Bicycle Thieves or even Spring in a Small Town, which is sitting unwatched on my hard drive. But Unfaithfully Yours needs more love.

[Sycophant]

6. "Manana (Is Soon Enough For Me)" - Peggy Lee
This song makes me uncomfortable.

[Spinal]

Time Man of the Year for 1948:

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Harry S. Truman

[origami_mustache]

1. The Bicycle Thieves
2. Unfaithfully Yours
3. Germania Year Zero
4. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
5. The Naked City

[koji]

1. Germany Ground Zero (Rossellini)
2. Drunken Angel (Kurosawa)
3. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (John Huston)
4. Unfaithfully Yours (Struges)
5. They Live by Night (Ray)
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The Big Clock (John Farnow)
Bicycle Thieves (Vittorio De Sica)
The Fallen Idol (Reed)
An Act of Violence (Zinnerman)
The Naked City (Jules Dassin)
Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House (H.C. Potter)
The Portrait of Jeannie (Dieterie)
The Street with No Name (Keighley)
He Walked by Night (Werker)
Key Largo (John Huston)

[Spinal]

1948 in television:

* Milton Berle becomes the first United States television star with the debut of Texaco Star Theater (later The Milton Berle Show) on NBC.

* Toast of the Town, with Ed Sullivan, premieres on CBS, with guests Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis (later renamed, The Ed Sullivan Show).

* June 21 - The first network telecast of political conventions from Philadelphia.

* July 29 - The BBC Television Service begins its coverage of the Olympic Games in London by broadcasting the opening ceremony.

* Professional wrestling premieres in prime-time on the DuMont Network.

* The first network nightly newscast, CBS-TV News, debuts on CBS with Douglas Edwards.

[Spinal]

Llopin, I think we can probably wrap this one up pretty soon.

[Derek]

1. Treasure of the Sierra Madre (John Huston)
2. La Terra Trema (Luchino Visconti)
3. Red River (Howard Hawks)
4. Rope (Alfred Hitchcock)
5. Force of Evil (Abraham Polonsky)
****************************** *
6. The Lady from Shanghai (Orson Welles)
7. The Bicycle Thief (Vittorio De Sica)
8. Oliver Twist (David Lean)
9. Unfaithfully Yours (Preston Sturges)
10. Jour de Fete (Jacques Tati)

HM: They Live By Night (Nicholas Ray)

[Spinal]

Now that I see a Brimley av, I am amazed that I have never seen one before. The Brimley av is an absolute good. The Brimley av is life.

[Derek]

Now that I see a Brimley av, I am amazed that I have never seen one before. The Brimley av is an absolute good. The Brimley av is life.

Your darn tootin' right, son.

http://www.movieactors.com/characters/freezes1/Brimley3.jpeg

The story behind it is even better:

"Meghan [McCain] recalls the day when actor Wilford Brimley, he of the Quaker Oats ads, called to offer his support. An operative got off the phone and grandly announced to the room, “We’ve got Brimley!” The phrase, she says, became a rallying cry for the campaign."

[MadMan]

Your darn tootin' right, son.

http://www.movieactors.com/characters/freezes1/Brimley3.jpeg

The story behind it is even better:

"Meghan [McCain] recalls the day when actor Wilford Brimley, he of the Quaker Oats ads, called to offer his support. An operative got off the phone and grandly announced to the room, “We’ve got Brimley!” The phrase, she says, became a rallying cry for the campaign."Hah, that is awesome. So it seems that Brimley is to the McCain campaign as Chuck Norris was to the Huckabee campaign.

[Spinal]

Llopin? You got this one?

[Spinal]

#10

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They Live By Night

Director: Nicholas Ray

Country: USA

Three prisoners flee from a state prison farm in Mississippi. Among them is a 23-year-old who spent the last seven years in prison and now hopes to be able to prove his innocence and live in peace together with his new love, Kitty. But his criminal companions persuade him to participate in several heists, and soon the police believe him to be their leader.

Nicholas Ray's first directing credit. The opening sequence was filmed from a helicopter. Although helicopters had been used in filming by 1947, mainly for aerial views or landscapes, this is one of the first times an action scene was filmed from the sky.

“Mr. Ray has an eye for action details. His staging of the robbery of a bank, all seen by the lad in the pick-up car, makes a fine clip of agitating film. And his sensitive juxtaposing of his actors against highways, tourist camps and bleak motels makes for a vivid comprehension of an intimate personal drama in hopeless flight.” -- Bosley Crowther (1949)

[Spinal]

#9

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Unfaithfully Yours

Director: Preston Sturges

Country: USA

A famous conductor suspects his wife of infidelity. While conducting a symphony orchestra, he imagines three different ways of dealing with the situation. When the concert ends, he tries acting out his fantasies, but things do not go as well in reality as they did in his imagination.

The orchestral conductor Sir Alfred de Carter, is based loosely on the real life British conductor Sir Thomas Beecham. Sturges, who had made his name as a director of Capra-esque comedies in the early 1940s, never fully recovered from the lukewarm reception of this black comedy, and many point to it as the movie which effectively ended his career.

“No director ever matched Preston Sturges's way of blending low slapstick and literate dialogue comedy; this 1948 film--his last major work--finds him moving toward a more Lubitschian elegance.” -- Dave Kehr

[Spinal]

#8

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Force of Evil

Director: Abraham Polonsky

Country: USA

Lawyer Joe Morse wants to consolidate all the small-time numbers racket operators into one big powerful operation. But his elder brother Leo is one of these small-time operators who wants to stay that way, preferring not to deal with the gangsters who dominate the big-time.

Blacklisted after his uncooperative appearance before HUAC in April 1951, Polonsky did not get a chance to direct another film until 1968. In order to show cinematographer George Barnes how he wanted the film to look, Polonsky gave him a book of Edward Hopper's Third Avenue paintings.

“Polonsky's unpretentious, lyrical film is steeped in terse dialogue, mythic family drama and pungent social criticism symbollically reflecting the dangers of the McCarthy witch hunts. ” -- Dennis Schwartz

[Spinal]

#7

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Germany Year Zero

Director: Roberto Rossellini

Country: Italy

A young boy who lives in the destructed Germany after the second World War has to do all kinds of work to help his family survive. One day he meets a man who used to be his teacher in school and hopes to get support from him; but instead, the man's influence leads the boy towards a startling decision.

The film is dedicated to Romano, Rossellini's son who died prematurely in 1946. It is the final film in Rossellini's war movie trilogy (the first two being Rome, Open City and Paisan). The other two films take place in post-war Italy.

“Even as Germany Year Zero promotes a definite agenda, it remains admirable, because it incorporates politics without sacrificing its technical and storytelling virtues ... The grave mood that dominates the film never allows the audience to forget how miserable conditions were while the movie was being made.” -- Jeremy Heilman

[Spinal]

#6

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Red River

Director: Howard Hawks and Arthur Rosson

Country: USA

Tom Dunson builds a cattle empire with his adopted son Matthew Garth. Together they begin a massive cattle drive north from Texas to the Missouri railhead. But on the way, new information and Dunson's tyrannical ways cause Matthew to take the herd away from Dunson and head to a new railhead in Kansas.

Earned Academy Award nominations for Best Writing, Motion Picture Story and Best Editing. Texas Longhorn cattle had been nearly extinct as a breed for about 50 years when this film was made. Only a few dozen animals were available. In the herd scenes, most of the cattle are Hereford crosses with the precious Longhorns prominently placed in crucial scenes.

“Between Wayne and Clift there is a clear tension, not only between an older man and a younger one, but between an actor who started in 1929 and another who represented the leading edge of the Method. It's almost as if Wayne, who could go over a flamboyant actor, was trying to go under a quiet one.” -- Roger Ebert

[Spinal]

#4 (tie)

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Portrait of Jennie

Director: William Dieterle

Country: USA

A struggling artist in Depression era New York has never been able to find inspiration for a painting. One day, after he finally finds someone to buy a painting from him, a young girl named Jennie appears and strikes up an unusual friendship.

Earned an Oscar for Best Special Effects. Also nominated for Best Black-and-White Cinematography. Joseph Cotten was awarded Best Actor at the Venice Film Festival. Although almost the entire film is in black and white, the tidal wave sequence towards the end is shown in green tint, and the final shot of the completed portrait of Jennie is in full Technicolor.

“Portrait of Jennie is a haunting evocation of one man's pained artistic process, and the genius of the film is how Dieterle delicately equates the creative impulse to an ever-evolving spiritual crisis. (Is it any coincidence then that the film was a favorite of atheist auteur Luis Buñuel?)” -- Ed Gonzalez

[Spinal]

#4 (tie)

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Rope

Director: Alfred Hitchcock

Country: USA

Two young men strangle their "inferior" classmate, hide his body in their apartment, and invite his friends and family to a dinner party as a means to challenge the "perfection" of their crime.

Alfred Hitchcock's first color film. The film was shot in ten takes, ranging from four-and-a-half to just over ten minutes (the maximum amount of film that a camera magazine or projector reel could hold) in duration. At one point during shooting, the camera dolly ran over and broke a cameraman's foot, but to keep filming, he was gagged and dragged off. Another time, a woman puts her glass down but misses the table. A stagehand had to rush up and catch it before the glass hit the ground. Both parts are used in the final cut.

“The elephant in Rope's posh Manhattan apartment is not the strangled corpse stashed in a trunk but the homo subtext that Alfred Hitchcock knew he was working with yet was scarcely able to drag out of the closet in 1948 ... The territory is a censors-enforced minefield, with brutality and sexuality, the plot's main elements, having to be alluded to rather than declared.” -- Fernando F. Croce

[Spinal]

#3

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The Red Shoes

Director: Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger

Country: UK

Under the authoritarian rule of charismatic ballet impressario Boris Lermontov, his proteges realize the full promise of their talents, but at a price: utter devotion to their art and complete loyalty to Lermontov himself.

Earned Oscars for Best Art Direction and Best Original Score. Also nominated for Best Picture, Best Editing and Best Writing, Motion Picture Story. When people complained to Hein Heckroth about the grim ending, he pointed out to them that in Hans Christian Andersen's original fairy tale, the ballerina had her feet hacked off by a woodsman to stop her dancing.

“The film is voluptuous in its beauty and passionate in its storytelling. You don't watch it, you bathe in it.” -- Roger Ebert

[Spinal]

#2

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The Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Director: John Huston

Country: USA

Two men, both down on their luck, meet up with a grizzled prospector and decide to join with him in search for gold in the wilds of central Mexico. They eventually succeed, but bandits, the elements, and, most especially, greed threaten to turn their success into disaster.

Earned Oscars for Best Director, Best Supporting Actor (Walter Huston) and Best Writing, Screenplay. Also nominated for Best Picture. John Huston stated that working with his father on this picture and his dad's subsequent Oscar win were among the favorite moments of his life. One of the first American films to be made almost entirely on location outside the USA.

“The performances pound with a dirty intimacy: studio bosses spent sleepless nights watching dailies in which Bogart ... looked like forty miles of rough road. It's a courageous movie, one that should never have been made in a Hollywood that has frankly never embraced (save for a brief, delirious period from 1968-81) films with ambiguous heroes and unhappy resolutions. ” -- Walter Chaw

[Spinal]

#1

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The Bicycle Thief

Director: Vittorio De Sica

Country: Italy

Antonio, unemployed for over two years, is overjoyed when he's finally given a job putting up posters. However, he needs a bicycle as a requirement of the job, so he pawns the family linen to get a pawned bicycle back. He goes off to his first day's work and the bike is stolen.

Earned an Honorary Academy Award for being the most outstanding foreign language film released in the United States during 1949. Also nominated for Best Writing, Screenplay. Named Best Film of the Year by the National Board of Review. De Sica claimed he selected the actors for the characters of both Bruno and Antonio because of their walks.

“Great movie, huh? So refreshing to see something like this after all these... cop movies and, you know, things we do. Maybe we'll do a remake of this!” -- Griffin Mill

[Spinal]

1. The Bicycle Thief (65.5)
2. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (60)
3. The Red Shoes (45.5)
4t. Rope (28)
4t. Portrait of Jennie (28)
6. Red River (25)
7. Germany Year Zero (23.5)
8. Force of Evil (18.5)
9. Unfaithfully Yours (17.5)
10. They Live By Night (17)

Near misses:
Letter from an Unknown Woman (14.5)
Key Largo (13.5)

[dreamdead]

So would one who's not a fan of westerns still find plenty to appreciate in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and Red River?

The more I read on Force of Evil, the more I'm interested in how it approaches ideas of communism and critiques of capitalism, so I think that'll become necessary viewing soon. Otherwise, despite the excellence of the cinematic techniques to Rope, I can't help but feel that Stewart is actually responsible for the film not being as strong as it could be. He's too passive here and the film doesn't really indict him for the passing of (problematic) ideas onto younger generations...

[SirNewt]

So would one who's not a fan of westerns still find plenty to appreciate in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and Red River?

The more I read on Force of Evil, the more I'm interested in how it approaches ideas of communism and critiques of capitalism, so I think that'll become necessary viewing soon. Otherwise, despite the excellence of the cinematic techniques to Rope, I can't help but feel that Stewart is actually responsible for the film not being as strong as it could be. He's too passive here and the film doesn't really indict him for the passing of (problematic) ideas onto younger generations...


I don't know about 'Red River' but 'The Treasure of the Sierra Madre', is not a western.

[Qrazy]

So would one who's not a fan of westerns still find plenty to appreciate in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and Red River?

Yes.


The more I read on Force of Evil, the more I'm interested in how it approaches ideas of communism and critiques of capitalism, so I think that'll become necessary viewing soon. Otherwise, despite the excellence of the cinematic techniques to Rope, I can't help but feel that Stewart is actually responsible for the film not being as strong as it could be. He's too passive here and the film doesn't really indict him for the passing of (problematic) ideas onto younger generations...

Don't really agree, the 'it's all theory' passive aspect of his character is necessary to contrast with the 'putting it into practice' of the killers. He steps up to the plate when he finally sees his beliefs put into practice and realizes the error of their conception.

[Eleven]

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Red River

I think this still is actually from Stagecoach. Neg rep.


“Great movie, huh? So refreshing to see something like this after all these... cop movies and, you know, things we do. Maybe we'll do a remake of this!” -- Griffin Mill

Pos rep. You got lucky this time.

[Spinal]

I think this still is actually from Stagecoach. Neg rep.


Fixed it.

[Philosophe_rouge]

Awesome list, now I just need to see Germany Year Zero and They Live by Night.

[Llopin]

Llopin? You got this one?

My dearest apologies, I flipped out.

I'll take care of the next one for sure ('87?).

[Spinal]

My dearest apologies, I flipped out.

I'll take care of the next one for sure ('87?).

No problem. I'm happy to take care of them if you're not going to be around for a while. Yes, you can grab '87 when it comes around.