Attack-Free Unpopular Opinion Thread

[Scar]

I love reserve seating. I'm with Duke, if I select my favorite seat, I'm well aware that others will probably want to sit in the same general area. Haven't had a problem with the Upper level / 21+ section of the theater I generally go to. Granted, not all of the screens at that theater have the balcony, but the main / new movies usually do.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Reserved seating lost me the moment I walked into a nearly empty screening and saw the dozen or so people all literally sitting next to each other. Also it’s comical when people don’t really know how to find their seat so they stand around confused when there’s hundreds of empty seats.

I usually just get a couple crap seats in the back, wait for the trailers to end, then take my pick of the best remaining seats with some wiggle room.

[Dukefrukem]

I usually just get a couple crap seats in the back, wait for the trailers to end, then take my pick of the best remaining seats with some wiggle room.

Yeh see, you can't do that with reserved seating when you arrive AFTER the trailers play.

[Skitch]

Yeh see, you can't do that with reserved seating when you arrive AFTER the trailers play.

And yet every stoner arrives 20 min in to the film and sits wherever they want (which is usually behind me).

[Milky Joe]

Guys, if a movie has started and the theater is only a quarter full, you can just sit wherever you want. This isn't Soviet Russia.

[megladon8]

Guys, if a movie has started and the theater is only a quarter full, you can just sit wherever you want. This isn't Soviet Russia.

Thank you.

[Ezee E]

When I say front and center, i mean the first row after the walkway split behind the handicap spaces.

In this graphic it would be the first gray row. Not the yellow seats.

https://amc-theatres-res.cloudinary.com/amc-cdn/production/2/attributes/HybridSeating_promo.jpg

C5 or C6 plz.

[MadMan]

Two weeks ago I saw 1917 because it was the only halfway decent looking thing playing at 10 pm. I think I made a pretty good decision.

[Ezee E]

Two weeks ago I saw 1917 because it was the only halfway decent looking thing playing at 10 pm. I think I made a pretty good decision.

Certainly not an unpopular decision Madman! :)

[MadMan]

Certainly not an unpopular decision Madman! :)

No, I guess not. However it is in defense of going to see a movie at the last minute on a whim.

Here is one: RT's Tomatoemeter is a speedy way to decide on a movie at the theater. I don't let it fully guide my viewing choices but it does help narrow things down when I'm unsure which flick to go with.

[Dukefrukem]

Cars should not have the ability to go above 80 mph.

[megladon8]

Cars should not have the ability to go above 80 mph.

But then what would happen to all the guys in pick up trucks who want to tailgate then angrily pass you when you're already doing 20 over the speed limit?

Huh? What about them, Duke? Did you even think about them?

[bac0n]

Cars should not have the ability to go above 80 mph.

You'd change your tune if you were to drive the stretch of I-94 from Fargo ND to Bozeman MT, I bet.

[Dukefrukem]

You'd change your tune if you were to drive the stretch of I-94 from Fargo ND to Bozeman MT, I bet.

I've driven across the country before. So I've been through boring NV, AZ, Kansas and UT. 80mph lane assist adaptive cruise 100%.

[Ezee E]

What's worse? The Kansas drive or northern Nevada?

[Dukefrukem]

What's worse? The Kansas drive or northern Nevada?

Toss up

FL is pretty bad too surprisingly.

[Ezee E]

Toss up

FL is pretty bad too surprisingly.

That stretch between Orlando and Southern Florida is pretty brutal, with way more tolls than necessary. I agree.

Don't think it compares to the first two though.

City highways, however, Southern Florida might be right behind Los Angeles.

Haven't had the benefit of driving in NYC/Boston.

[Dukefrukem]

That stretch between Orlando and Southern Florida is pretty brutal, with way more tolls than necessary. I agree.

Don't think it compares to the first two though.

City highways, however, Southern Florida might be right behind Los Angeles.

Haven't had the benefit of driving in NYC/Boston.

I drove from Port St Luice to Key West once. Wow what a mistake.

[bac0n]

What's worse? The Kansas drive or northern Nevada?

I've driven from Minneapolis to Austin and back twice. Not as bad as you would think. Surprisingly, I found the most scenic part of the drive to be the stretch of I-35 in Kansas, between KC and Wichita - the Flint Hills Plains. I swear, it's like going back in time 150 years. No houses, no roads, no nuthin' - just big sky, rolling hills, and amber waves of grain. Beautiful.

[Ezee E]

I've driven from Minneapolis to Austin and back twice. Not as bad as you would think. Surprisingly, I found the most scenic part of the drive to be the stretch of I-35 in Kansas, between KC and Wichita - the Flint Hills Plains. I swear, it's like going back in time 150 years. No houses, no roads, no nuthin' - just big sky, rolling hills, and amber waves of grain. Beautiful.

The I-70 East stretch is nothing but flat and ugly farmland, with a ridiculous toll near the end of it. Your drive makes me think of Iowa with the rolling hills

[Skitch]

Last time I drove to Sarasota, that stretch of FL...it was 11 oclock at night, I had cruise at 80, speed limit was 70, and people were swerving to avoid rear ending me. I already felt like I was going plenty fast, but I felt like I was more in danger of getting hit. So I kicked it up to 90 on the cruise and played Speed Racer for the next hour.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement, Duke, but I'm not super comfortable over 80 because you're really pushing losing your license, imo.

[Ezee E]

Florida has the worst drivers, IMO. Combination of retired folks that drive 10-15 under, tourists trying to find the right exit, and immigrants that may or may not have licenses... Every time I've been on a South Florida highway, there's a wreck somewhere, and a lot of times it's in a middle lane.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement, Duke, but I'm not super comfortable over 80 because you're really pushing losing your license, imo.

I only used 80 because there are some highways out west with speed limits of 80mph.

[Skitch]

I've never liked The Lion King. I watched the CGI one (forced by family). It sucks too.

I didn't think they could make a shittier Toy Story movie than part 3, but they found a way in part 4. Awful, just awful.

[TGM]

I also hated Toy Story 4, but think you might be the first person I’ve seen who didn’t like the third one. What didn’t you like about it?

[Skitch]

I also hated Toy Story 4, but think you might be the first person I’ve seen who didn’t like the third one. What didn’t you like about it?

I just didn't like it at all. Pushing way too hard for tears and I wasn't even close. The end climax is dumb because you know theres no chance in hell Pixar ends a movie like that.

[Dukefrukem]

You thought the best Toy Story was bad?

[Skitch]

You thought the best Toy Story was bad?

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Wasn't for me.

[Irish]

I'm with Skitch on "Toy Story 3." I hated it when I saw it in the theater. Terrible ending.

I softened a bit on it after subsequent viewings (it's more ambitious than "2" and more coherent than "4"), but I still think there's something weird and off about the story. The premise is too dark and the villain is too violent. It's supposed to be a kid's movie but it tries to wring sentimentality from a story that features trauma for the characters and disturbing images for the audience.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm with Skitch on "Toy Story 3." I hated it when I saw it in the theater. Terrible ending.

I softened a bit on it after subsequent viewings (it's more ambitious than "2" and more coherent than "4"), but I still think there's something weird and off about the story. The premise is too dark and the villain is too violent. It's supposed to be a kid's movie but it tries to wring sentimentality from a story that features trauma for the characters and disturbing images for the audience.

The villain of TS1 was a kid who liked to dismember and kill toys.

[Skitch]

...but I still think there's something weird and off about the story. The premise is too dark and the villain is too violent. It's supposed to be a kid's movie but it tries to wring sentimentality from a story that features trauma for the characters and disturbing images for the audience.

Totally agreed. I haven't seen it since the theater and I have no intention of revisiting.

I knew someone would bring up TS1s villain if I said that. You're not wrong, Duke...but theres something in part one that isn't as bothersome to me. Its like Sid is a child's idea of big bad villain, when hes actually just a brat. I don't know how to properly explain what I mean, but its just how I feel.

[Irish]

The villain of TS1 was a kid who liked to dismember and kill toys.

The difference is in the script and the filmmaking. The overall tone is different.

Everybody suburban neighborhood had a Sid or two. The troublemaker and bully who wore Punisher t-shirts and always carried around M-80s, cherry bombs, wrist rockets, pocket knives, and whatever weird, dangerous stuff he could find. There's an extent where he's relatable because either you knew that kid or you were that kid.

But --- and this is the important part --- iirc, you don't really see Sid harm a toy. The threat is there, sure, and sometimes action (like when Sid defaces his sister's doll) but the images are not. The film cuts away from anything too explicit.

Woody and Buzz's escape from Sid's house takes place during a bright, sunny day. The action is injected with humor and pathos: Buzz getting drunk on imaginary tea and calling himself "Mrs Nesbitt"; Andy's other toys thinking Woody is a "murderer" and refusing to help him; Sid's frankenstein toys, which seem scary at first, reveal themselves to be friendly and helpful.

The brilliance of "Toy Story" is that the plot is entirely character driven. Everything happens because Buzz makes Woody insecure, and Woody can't help himself from acting on his own insecurity.

The climax of the film is the turning point for both of them. Woody begins to act selflessly, to see Buzz as a person and a friend, and Buzz has a literal identity crisis when he learns he's not the "real" Buzz Lightyear. The action is an expression of who those characters are.

Meanwhile, most of what happens in "3" happens because Lotso is fucked in the head. The bulk of the story is premised on daycare as a sort of penal colony and small children as little monsters (which they are, but it's strange to have it stated so bluntly). The threats are all external, not internal. Somebody thought throwing the protagonists in toy jail was a good idea for a kid's movie. The humor is almost non-existent, except for some lame gags around Ken's sexuality. The whole thing has the dark, threaten tone of a prison flick, which is made doubly weird because some of the characters are plush toys. The climax puts the heroes in an incinerator during an extended sequence. Like, we literally see them about to burn. I watched that the first time completely dumfounded.

[Dukefrukem]

But --- and this is the important part --- iirc, you don't really see Sid harm a toy. The threat is there, sure, and sometimes action (like when Sid defaces his sister's doll) but the images are not. The film cuts away from anything too explicit.

This doesn't count?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bnPbgzPt_8

[Irish]

This doesn't count?

No, because the tone is different. The payoff is a Looney Tunes style joke. The moment turns funny instead of lingering as traumatic.

Compare that scene to this one from "3" and the difference is startling:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwnMO9V4QKI

[Irish]

PS: Sid isn't the villain of "Toy Story." Woody is, but the audience still likes him all the way through even when he does shitty things. This is another bit of brilliance on the part of the script, the filmmaking, and Hanks' performance.

[TGM]

You thought the best Toy Story was bad?

He said Toy Story 3, not Toy Story 1. :p

[transmogrifier]

TS3 > TS1 > TS2 >> TS4

[TGM]

TS1 > TS3 > TS2 >>>>>>>>>> TS4

[Peng]

T3 > T2 > T4 > T1

[Philip J. Fry]

T3>T2=T1>T4

[Dukefrukem]

TS3 > TS1 > TS2 >> TS4

This is correct.

[Irish]

This is correct.

No it's not. Bad Duke! Don't encourage transmo!

[MadMan]

I did not see Toy Story 4. I think 1 and 2 are equal and I liked 3 the best in terms of emotional puch to the gut.

[Skitch]

Unpopular opinions guys, unpopular! Lol

[Scar]

So what you’re saying is that I shouldn’t bother with Toy Story 4?

[Skitch]

If you're into suicidal toys and depressing subplots, queue that sucker up.

[Ezee E]

They're all the same to me.

[Irish]

If you're into suicidal toys and depressing subplots, queue that sucker up.

Say what? One of the subplots is the romance between Woody and Bo and it's terrific.

[MadMan]

Unpopular opinions guys, unpopular! LolI'm fresh out but I'll come up with something later.

[MadMan]

I got one: Haywire, Attack the Block and Hanna are all better than most of the MCU.

[transmogrifier]

NYC Ghosts & Flowers is the best Sonic Youth album
Monster is the best REM album

[Philip J. Fry]

NYC Ghosts & Flowers is the best Sonic Youth album
Monster is the best REM album
As cliché as it may sound, still Daydream Nation for me. The song NYC Ghosts and Flowers is still great, though.

[Morris Schæffer]

I'm with Skitch on "Toy Story 3." I hated it when I saw it in the theater. Terrible ending.

I softened a bit on it after subsequent viewings (it's more ambitious than "2" and more coherent than "4"), but I still think there's something weird and off about the story. The premise is too dark and the villain is too violent. It's supposed to be a kid's movie but it tries to wring sentimentality from a story that features trauma for the characters and disturbing images for the audience.

This is why loved it. That it had a dark edge. I find most kids movies so utterly vanilla and safe. Why should we shield kids entirely from such themes? It's life, perhaps it's actually better that they learn some tough lessons through a product such as Toy Story than in a hard, direct way such as parents divorcing.

"it's supposed to be a kid's movie" is a kinda limiting mantra if the studios were to embrace this wholesale. It means no one will ever take risks and we end up with stale, generic fare.

My 5 cents. :)

[MadMan]

NYC Ghosts & Flowers is the best Sonic Youth album
Monster is the best REM album

I haven't heard that Sonic Youth album yet. I love Monster but I still think Document is R.E.M.'s best.

[transmogrifier]

I haven't heard that Sonic Youth album yet. I love Monster but I still think Document is R.E.M.'s best.


Be prepared, it's far from many people's favorite. But the run of A Thousand Leaves - NYC Ghosts and Flowers - Murray Street - Sonic Nurse is the best of their career

[transmogrifier]

As cliché as it may sound, still Daydream Nation for me. The song NYC Ghosts and Flowers is still great, though.

I like Daydream Nation just fine, but it still feels kind of like a chore to sit through the whole thing at times. "NYC Ghosts and Flowers" is one of their very best songs. If I had to make a list:

1. Heather Angel
2. Anagrama
3. Sympathy for the Strawberry
4. NYC Ghosts and Flowers
5. JC
6. 'Cross the Breeze
7. Massage the History
8. The Burning Spear
9. Schizophrenia
10. Stones

[Philip J. Fry]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who loves Massage the History​. I adore that song.

[MadMan]

Be prepared, it's far from many people's favorite. But the run of A Thousand Leaves - NYC Ghosts and Flowers - Murray Street - Sonic Nurse is the best of their career

I have yet to hear a Sonic Youth album I didn't like. So far I have listened to 7 of their albums.

[MadMan]

I love Daydream Nation but that is probably due to having it been the first Sonic Youth album I ever heard.

[Philip J. Fry]

I... severely dislike Gina from Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Although she has her moments, I, for the most part, find her self-centeredness really obnoxious and she's really unlikable.

[transmogrifier]

When Harry Met Sally is the best straight-out romantic comedy of all time. However, depending on how you define the genre, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind would top it.

[megladon8]

When Harry Met Sally is the best straight-out romantic comedy of all time. However, depending on how you define the genre, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind would top it.

What about Hitch, or The Princess Diaries 2?

[transmogrifier]

What about Hitch, or The Princess Diaries 2?

It's a tough field, for sure.

[MadMan]

I... severely dislike Gina from Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Although she has her moments, I, for the most part, find her self-centeredness really obnoxious and she's really unlikable.

Thank you. I thought I was the only one who thought she was the weak link.

[MadMan]

When Harry Met Sally is the best straight-out romantic comedy of all time. However, depending on how you define the genre, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind would top it.

Wait this is controversial? Both are excellent films. Can I count Groundhog's Day as a romcom? I think so.

[MadMan]

Hitch is good. Princess Diaries 2 is ok.

[transmogrifier]

Wait this is controversial? Both are excellent films. Can I count Groundhog's Day as a romcom? I think so.

I think most film buffs would choose a romantic comedy from Hollywood's golden age, and many would dispute ESOTSM is a romcom at all.

[MadMan]

I think most film buffs would choose a romantic comedy from Hollywood's golden age, and many would dispute ESOTSM is a romcom at all.

Oh. I am so behind on golden age cinema.

[Skitch]

Danny Boyle's A Life Less Ordinary is one of my favorite romcoms. Maybe number one.

[MadMan]

Danny Boyle's A Life Less Ordinary is one of my favorite romcoms. Maybe number one.

That is a good one.

[Grouchy]

All musical covers by Johnny Cash or Joan Baez are better than the originals.

Exception: Judas Priest's cover of Diamonds and Rust is better.

[Dukefrukem]

All musical covers by Johnny Cash or Joan Baez are better than the originals.

Exception: Judas Priest's cover of Diamonds and Rust is better.

Nope. Hurt is not better than NIN.

[Grouchy]

Nope. Hurt is not better than NIN.
Hahah that's the one that's so much better that it made me think about that.

[Philip J. Fry]

Thank you. I thought I was the only one who thought she was the weak link.Yep.

[Yxklyx]

I prefer Tori Amos' version of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

[Mr. McGibblets]

Cash's Southern Accents is also 100x better than Tom Petty's.

[transmogrifier]

Better covers (no order, and not all unpopular, obviously):

1. "Maggie's Farm" - Rage Against the Machine
2. "Superstar" - Sonic Youth
3. "Life's What You Make It" - Rowland S. Howard
4. "Matty Groves" - Fairport Convention
5. "Torn" - Natalie Imbruglia
6. "I'm Not There" - Sonic Youth
7. "Wild Horses" - The Sundays
8. "Across the Universe" - Fiona Apple
9. "Hallelujah" - Jeff Buckley
10. "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" - Creedence Clearwater Revival
11. "Sweet Jane" - The Cowboy Junkies
12. "Gloria" - Patti Smith
13. "Walk This Way" - Run DMC
14. "I Will Survive" - Cake
15. "Last Kiss" - Pearl Jam

[Philip J. Fry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtPKy3Yau7c
I've always been partial to this one.

[Philip J. Fry]

Listening as my mom watches another Jesus biopic and I'm like "why does every single Jesus movie (or play or, well, anything) not starring Willem Dafoe portrays Jesus as this always solemn, almost robotic being without any hint of a personality?"

I'm not a Bible scholar or anything, but I don't remember any instance saying Jesus behaved like that (or had any discernible personality trait besides being, like, wise) so theoretically, there could be a myriad of interpretations one couod give to that character that would be equally valid and more interesting. Where's the humor, wit, sadness, skepticism, charisma, etc? Where's the humanity?

[Philip J. Fry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSUdRC-peQ
I love this cover as well (original by Jefferson Airplane). The progression reminds me a lot of The Velvet Underground's Ocean.

[Grouchy]

Listening as my mom watches another Jesus biopic and I'm like "why does every single Jesus movie (or play or, well, anything) not starring Willem Dafoe portrays Jesus as this always solemn, almost robotic being without any hint of a personality?"

I'm not a Bible scholar or anything, but I don't remember any instance saying Jesus behaved like that (or had any discernible personality trait besides being, like, wise) so theoretically, there could be a myriad of interpretations one couod give to that character that would be equally valid and more interesting. Where's the humor, wit, sadness, skepticism, charisma, etc? Where's the humanity?Have you seen Buñuel's The Milky Way?

[baby doll]

Carina Lau is now prettier than Maggie Cheung.

[Philip J. Fry]

Have you seen Buñuel's The Milky Way?
I have not.

[Grouchy]

I have not.
It's not a Jesus biopic heheh but you'd enjoy its Jesus scenes based on what you said.

[StanleyK]

Having just watched Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle, I thought the former was the much better film. Hustle is fine, but some of the humor falls flat and it doesn't transition well between the comedy and action/more serious stuff, especially in the final act; Soccer is hilarious from beginning to end and more tonally consistent.

[Dukefrukem]

Having just watched Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle, I thought the former was the much better film. Hustle is fine, but some of the humor falls flat and it doesn't transition well between the comedy and action/more serious stuff, especially in the final act; Soccer is hilarious from beginning to end and more tonally consistent.

Oh man, I love both but Kung Fu Hustle is 100% my brand of humor and finale.

Where is Stephen Chow these days??

[baby doll]

Where is Stephen Chow these days??Making lots of money in mainland China.

[Grouchy]

I googled him up recently. Kung Fu Hustle 2 was scheduled to be released in 2021.

[Skitch]

Shaolin Soccer is terrific.

[transmogrifier]

Oh, finally, a relevant unpopular opinion: Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle are fucking annoying. I've never bothered to watch another Chow film after suffering through those.

[Morris Schæffer]

Oh, finally, a relevant unpopular opinion: Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle are fucking annoying. I've never bothered to watch another Chow film after suffering through those.

I couldn't take KFH either. People said it's just like a road runner cartoon come to life but watching 90 minutes of Wile E Coyote trying to ensnare the titular bird would outstay its welcome I suspect at the 30 minute mark.

[Peng]

Seeing the news in other threads makes me remember this one... Into the Darkness is the best of the new three Star Trek films.

[Dukefrukem]

Seeing the news in other threads makes me remember this one... Into the Darkness is the best of the new three Star Trek films.

You mean the one where they discover to cure death and also have an interplanetary teleportation system that can instantly teleport people off world to the other side of the galaxy? Two of the STUPIDEST mechanics to ever be conceived in a franchise that could use them on a daily basis but then never again because script? That movie?

[Peng]

Ahem, thread title.

I can see why it rankles when considered within the franchise history/seriously, but for me (at least during that pretty blah 2013 summer season, haven't rewatched it since), the strong direction for a summer blockbuster really helps paper over some story flaws/franchise-inconsistent plot points. To (sacrilegiously?) use a Hitchcock phrase, it's such an entertaining refrigerator blockbuster in-the-moment that I can only go "Ah, I see" about plot issue raised afterwards, but don't feel it much. And as for my "best" wording I meant relative to its immediate other entires, where I was clearly not about any claim for actual greatness; for me the first one loses steam hard during the tail end, while the third one, being faithful to the show's spirit as it may, just feels to me a little strained and distancingly slight overall.

[Dukefrukem]

Ahem, thread title.

I can see why it rankles when considered within the franchise history/seriously, but for me (at least during that pretty blah 2013 summer season, haven't rewatched it since), the strong direction for a summer blockbuster really helps paper over some story flaws/franchise-inconsistent plot points. To (sacrilegiously?) use a Hitchcock phrase, it's such an entertaining refrigerator blockbuster in-the-moment that I can only go "Ah, I see" about plot issue raised afterwards, but don't feel it much. And as for my "best" wording I meant relative to its immediate other entires, where I was clearly not about any claim for actual greatness; for me the first one loses steam hard during the tail end, while the third one, being faithful to the show's spirit as it may, just feels to me a little strained and distancingly slight overall.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPqAHNv2HE

[Dukefrukem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLGH0VHUVs

[Peng]

Deep.

EDIT: Holy shit, I never ever clicked on one of non-trailer/clip videos posted here, but just from random curiosity since it's a reply to me, pressed to see its format, and 44 minutes!? OK, change that sarcastic "deep" to literal one.

[Peng]

In the interest of equal effort reply (let me know if this is any good though, since it's direct from search bar https://awardsworthy.org/images/smilies/smileys/lol.gif. My clip stance remains firm even if it falls more on my side of opinion):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C16f7zw1o4M

[Skitch]

Ahem, thread title.
I rule that he is attacking the film, not you. I'll allow it.

[Dukefrukem]

In the interest of equal effort reply (let me know if this is any good though, since it's direct from search bar https://awardsworthy.org/images/smilies/smileys/lol.gif. My clip stance remains firm even if it falls more on my side of opinion):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C16f7zw1o4M

Oh man. A minute and 17 seconds in and it immediately goes back to my second point. Cross galaxy teleportation technology exists and for some reason they struggle to get Spock from the base of a volcano to the enterprise in the sea because .... they don't have "line of sight". Wut?

[Dukefrukem]

Most of these "Wins" are just opinions. "Wow what a great score" Yeh it's fine. "Kahan is a great villian" He is?

Only thing I really agreed with was the space ship timeline and Peter Weller's character.

Surprised they didn't give a win when Alice Eve takes off her shirt for no reason.

[Skitch]

I have a prejudice against youtube vids with counters. Ding! Ding! Ding! fuck off

[MadMan]

I refuse to base any film opinions on YouTube "This is what is right or wrong with a film" videos. I liked Into Darkness but mostly for the action sequences. The rest is a mixed bag.

[MadMan]

Kung Fu Hustle is delightful. I like it a lot.

[Dukefrukem]

I refuse to base any film opinions on YouTube "This is what is right or wrong with a film" videos. I liked Into Darkness but mostly for the action sequences. The rest is a mixed bag.

You like everything though.

[MadMan]

You like everything though.Wrong. I guess I'll just have to make a Top 100 Worst Films I Have Seen list. These days I am more selective about what I watch.

[Dukefrukem]

Wrong. I guess I'll just have to make a Top 100 Worst Films I Have Seen list. These days I am more selective about what I watch.

For shits I went into the 2019 movie forum, found the first 10 movies you saw ranked by replies and sure enough, 10/10 yays.

You like everything.

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1962&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1865&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1934&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1995&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1843&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=2006&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1917&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1856&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1937&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1920&do=showresults

[Grouchy]

For the record, out of all those, I only nayed Captain Marvel and Us.

[transmogrifier]

So I guess the attack-free component of the thread title has been suspended for some reason...?

[Scar]

So I guess the attack-free component of the thread title has been suspended for some reason...?

Some folks are going stir crazy.

[Skitch]

So I guess the attack-free component of the thread title has been suspended for some reason...?

I don't know how to read some stuff. Is it an attack to say some one likes things?

[Irish]

I thought the point of the thread was the ability to say random shit without getting a certain level of pushback?

Like, you could state a fringe opinion without being dogpiled or second-guessed to death?

Maybe I had it wrong the whole time.

[Dukefrukem]

I withdraw my pushback.

[Irish]

Lol, no need, I think.

Besides, I sorta like the idea of flipping the thread half way through. Make it "Attack the Unpopular Opinion" instead.

Sorta like those "change my mind / prove me wrong" memes.

[Skitch]

I thought the point of the thread was the ability to say random shit without getting a certain level of pushback?

Like, you could state a fringe opinion without being dogpiled or second-guessed to death?

Maybe I had it wrong the whole time.

My intention was you personally cannot be attacked for your opinion. You can state an opinion, and some can politely disagree, hell, even shit all over the movie, but attacking the person or opinion, no.

[Skitch]

Example, I can say 99% of musicals are stupid.

You can write a dozen paragraphs explaining all the things you like about musicals. You can say, "that's a bummer, I wish you enjoyed these aspects of musicals". But no "you're an idiot and heres why", or "heres why you're wrong", etc etc.

[transmogrifier]

I don't know how to read some stuff. Is it an attack to say some one likes things?

It implies they have no critical faculties, no? The opposite would also be an attack: "You hate everything."

Of course, Duke may not have intended that, but that is what it read like, which didn't seem to jibe with the thread intentions.

So, in summary: TJ Miller rules, you noobs.

[Skitch]

I do not tend to enjoy the work of tj miller.

[Wryan]

So, in summary: TJ Miller rules, you noobs.

That's a generous reading.

[Wryan]

Also, Weller's the best part of Into Darkness, tho some of the action's pretty sweet. I prefer to not think of it as a Khan adaptation at all.

[Philip J. Fry]

Sometimes I forget Khan appears there.

[MadMan]

For shits I went into the 2019 movie forum, found the first 10 movies you saw ranked by replies and sure enough, 10/10 yays.

You like everything.

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1962&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1865&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1934&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1995&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1843&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=2006&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1917&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1856&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1937&do=showresults

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/poll.php?pollid=1920&do=showresults

I'm selective about what I watch in theaters. Shit costs money. Imagine if you used your free time for something worthwhile. Also you violated the spirit of this thread, all to defend some stupid YouTube video.

[MadMan]

Sorry man I didn't watch Cats or whatever...wait no I'm not. Anyways I'm viewing and enjoying Alligator right now in honor of Robert Forster, who was a rather underrated actor. Not sure why Ebert hated this movie-the alligator busting up from the surface was pretty cool. Also yey Henry Silva. Wait shit I was supposed to hate this movie...damn! Failed again!

[Skitch]

Okay people....buckle up. I know this will be hard for you not to attack.

Star Trek: TMP. Easily the best ST film. Not even close. Most cinematic, all others feel like "big" episodes. I adore this movie.

Next in line is ST6:TUC. Fucking kickass flick. Yep, feels like big episode, but it's a damn good one, and I love all the reactions Kirk has to the misinterpreted actions. That's good writing.

Next is ST9:I. Yep it's a big episode. But it's a good one.

Next is ST3:TSFS.
Next is ST2:TWOK. Kahn is a fucking pussy. Yes....he has some of the best lines in all of Trek. Also, giant type A Trump level bully pussy. [Read in whiny baby voice] "I am the perfect being. Kirk abandoned us on a totally awesome planet but later a side planet blew up and made our planet suck and Kirk didnt come back to check on us years later so NOW ACTIVATE SHAKESPEAREIAN LIFE VENDETA, also have I mentioned I am the perfect being?" Fuck off asshat.
F uck Kahns motivations.

Rest...8, 5, 10, 4, 7.

[Dukefrukem]

TMP is the worst not just Star Trek, but space movie of all time.

The correct rankings can be found here: https://letterboxd.com/dukefrukem/list/star-trek-franchise-ranked/

[Morris Schæffer]

Okay people....buckle up. I know this will be hard for you not to attack.

Star Trek: TMP. Easily the best ST film. Not even close. Most cinematic, all others feel like "big" episodes. I adore this movie.

Next in line is ST6:TUC. Fucking kickass flick. Yep, feels like big episode, but it's a damn good one, and I love all the reactions Kirk has to the misinterpreted actions. That's good writing.

Next is ST9:I. Yep it's a big episode. But it's a good one.

Next is ST3:TSFS.
Next is ST2:TWOK. Kahn is a fucking pussy. Yes....he has some of the best lines in all of Trek. Also, giant type A Trump level bully pussy. [Read in whiny baby voice] "I am the perfect being. Kirk abandoned us on a totally awesome planet but later a side planet blew up and made our planet suck and Kirk didnt come back to check on us years later so NOW ACTIVATE SHAKESPEAREIAN LIFE VENDETA, also have I mentioned I am the perfect being?" Fuck off asshat.
F uck Kahns motivations.

Rest...8, 5, 10, 4, 7.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PersonalWanAlpineroadguidetige rbeetle-size_restricted.gif

[transmogrifier]

I've only ever seen the Abrams' Muppet Babies version of Star Trek (all three of 'em!), and the one with the humpback whales on TV one time. I've ever watched any of the TV shows. So I guess my unpopular opinion is that I couldn't care less about Star Trek.

[Morris Schæffer]

TMP is the worst not just Star Trek, but space movie of all time.

The correct rankings can be found here: https://letterboxd.com/dukefrukem/list/star-trek-franchise-ranked/

Kudos to FC on #1 but then Nemesis on #2?!

No, these are the correct rankings:

1. Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek First Contact
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek Generations
Star Trek
Star Trek VIII Insurrection
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Star Trek The Motion Picture
Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Trek Beyond
Star Trek Nemesis
13. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

[Skitch]

TMP is the worst not just Star Trek, but space movie of all time.

The correct rankings can be found here: https://letterboxd.com/dukefrukem/list/star-trek-franchise-ranked/

I mean....what? You say TMP is the worst ST and worst space movie then show rankings where it's not listed as worst even ST? Not attacking you, dont care if you hate it, but you're not making sense.

[Morris Schæffer]

I mean....what? You say TMP is the worst ST and worst space movie then show rankings where it's not listed as worst even ST? Not attacking you, dont care if you hate it, but you're not making sense.

That's...an excellent point. :D

[Irish]

Eh. II, IV, and VI seem like the ones where the cast is having the most fun. I, III, and IV just stalled out. They're no fun.

"Wrath of Khan" is probably my favorite at this point. It includes everything that made "Star Trek" notable: cool sci-fi ideas, over the top space battles, melodramatic villains, personally driven stories. I like that it's a quasi sequel that doesn't require anyone to be familiar with the show. I mean, somebody asks Kirk what's Khan's beef is and Kirk literally waves the question away. Who cares? Nobody watches this because of the backstory. I wish more movies would take note.

"Voyage Home" is fan service & it's barely science fiction. But the jokes are funny. ("No, I'm from Iowa. I only work in space.") I do like the premise around the idea that humans aren't the center of the universe, something the show returned to again and again in its better moments.

"Undiscovered Country" is another good chunk of action sci-fi. The assassination sequence in zero-G is particularly memorable. Probably one of the better examples of contemporary political dramas informing science-fiction both in and out of the Star Trek universe. The politics were fun ("Human rights. You should hear yourselves.") and not overbearing.

None of the "Next Generation" movies were really worth a damn, because they had awkward cast size and couldn't always build the movies around the show's strengths --- which almost always involved Patrick Stewart's performance as Picard.

[Dukefrukem]

I mean....what? You say TMP is the worst ST and worst space movie then show rankings where it's not listed as worst even ST? Not attacking you, dont care if you hate it, but you're not making sense.

Hyperbole.

[Dukefrukem]

Eh. II, IV, and VI seem like the ones where the cast is having the most fun. I, III, and IV just stalled out. They're no fun.

"Wrath of Khan" is probably my favorite at this point. It includes everything that made "Star Trek" notable: cool sci-fi ideas, over the top space battles, melodramatic villains, personally driven stories. I like that it's a quasi sequel that doesn't require anyone to be familiar with the show. I mean, somebody asks Kirk what's Khan's beef is and Kirk literally waves the question away. Who cares? Nobody watches this because of the backstory. I wish more movies would take note.

"Voyage Home" is fan service & it's barely science fiction. But the jokes are funny. ("No, I'm from Iowa. I only work in space.") I do like the premise around the idea that humans aren't the center of the universe, something the show returned to again and again in its better moments.

"Undiscovered Country" is another good chunk of action sci-fi. The assassination sequence in zero-G is particularly memorable. Probably one of the better examples of contemporary political dramas informing science-fiction both in and out of the Star Trek universe. The politics were fun ("Human rights. You should hear yourselves.") and not overbearing.

None of the "Next Generation" movies were really worth a damn, because they had awkward cast size and couldn't always build the movies around the show's strengths --- which almost always involved Patrick Stewart's performance as Picard.

Since Picard is the superior captain, it makes sense that most of his movies would naturally come off as more interesting. In my limited, limited knowledge of the continuity, Picard is a much more interesting character than Kirk.

[Skitch]

Since Picard is the superior captain, it makes sense that most of his movies would naturally come off as more interesting. In my limited, limited knowledge of the continuity, Picard is a much more interesting character than Kirk.

Picard is way, WAY cooler than Kirk. Hes a fucking badass. Unfortunately I feel like the Next Gen movies don't play as well unless you just finished watching the series and its really fresh in mind. Especially the stuff with Data (in the movies). Him and his emotions chip and whatnot in the movies is downright annoying unless you've just come off the series where it was a direct topic.

Edit: I should've made note that none of the Star Trek movies are a thumbs down to me. I enjoy them all.

Edit 2: It infuriates me to know the studio cut 40-50 minutes out of Nemesis.

[Dukefrukem]

99.9% of what I know about Star Trek (outside of the movies) comes from RLM btw. I love it when Mike goes off on tangents and relates every synopsis back to ST.

Their recent Discovery and Picard videos are top notch.

[Irish]

I wouldn't say one captain is better than another because they're both so different, and the two shows were both so different.

Here's my pet theory on why the original show worked in ways that the subsequent shows don't: The cast and character chemistry.

There's something good and fun connecting Kirk, Spock, and McCoy and the actors who played them. The producers were smart enough to differentiate the character's personalities, separating them into the rough silos of id, ego, and super-ego. (Or: mind, body, and spirit). Kirk is all body, action based and randy; Spock attempts to be, of course, purely rational; McCoy is their collective moral center. There's a focus on Kirk but he's not meant to be a standalone character. One of the others is always in tow. (If you think about it, "Star Wars" did something similar with Luke, Leia, and Han).

That sort of dynamic doesn't exist on the subsequent "Star Trek" shows. They kinda sorta tried to emulate it here and there. (Worf, Data, Odo, Quark, Seven of Nine, and The Doctor all inherited various traits from Spock.) But it also never really jelled, and it's noticeably awkward when the writers forced it (consider the father-son dynamic between Wesley and Picard, or the romantic relationship between Worf and Troi). When people talk about "TNG" now, or its best episodes, the familiar call outs are almost always around Patrick Stewart and episodes that featured his character exclusively. That doesn't happen with the original show, and it couldn't have happened because "Star Trek" was built around a holy space trinity of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. "Next Generation" survived largely off Stewart's back, once the writers understood how good of an actor he was (and how bad some of the others were.)

This lack of dynamic is also why I think JJ Abrams' movies don't work on a fundamental level: The chemistry is non-existent and the interplay is forced, with some of those actors not doing much more than a imitation of the original cast's performances. They also thought, for some reason, that people wanted a "Next Generation" bloat in an original-show movie, and without that id-ego-super-ego electricity to move things along.

[Skitch]

Why I like Picard better than Kirk is his intelligence and willingness to trust his companions with their strengths. Far too often Kirk is just damn lucky whereas Picard is fucking smart and wise.

Oh were in the correct thread for this take as well...Star Trek Voyager was cool. Some incredibly dark stuff at times.

[Dukefrukem]

I wouldn't say one captain is better than another because they're both so different, and the two shows were both so different.

Here's my pet theory on why the original show worked in ways that the subsequent shows don't: The cast and character chemistry.

There's something good and fun connecting Kirk, Spock, and McCoy and the actors who played them. The producers were smart enough to differentiate the character's personalities, separating them into the rough silos of id, ego, and super-ego. (Or: mind, body, and spirit). Kirk is all body, action based and randy; Spock attempts to be, of course, purely rational; McCoy is their collective moral center. There's a focus on Kirk but he's not meant to be a standalone character. One of the others is always in tow. (If you think about it, "Star Wars" did something similar with Luke, Leia, and Han).

That sort of dynamic doesn't exist on the subsequent "Star Trek" shows. They kinda sorta tried to emulate it here and there. (Worf, Data, Odo, Quark, Seven of Nine, and The Doctor all inherited various traits from Spock.) But it also never really jelled, and it's noticeably awkward when the writers forced it (consider the father-son dynamic between Wesley and Picard, or the romantic relationship between Worf and Troi). When people talk about "TNG" now, or its best episodes, the familiar call outs are almost always around Patrick Stewart and episodes that featured his character exclusively. That doesn't happen with the original show, and it couldn't have happened because "Star Trek" was built around a holy space trinity of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.

This lack of dynamic is also why I think JJ Abrams' movies don't work on a fundamental level: The chemistry is non-existent and the interplay is forced, with some of those actors not doing much more than a imitation of the original cast's performances. They also thought, for some reason, that people wanted a "Next Generation" bloat in an original-show movie, and without that id-ego-super-ego electricity to move things along.

Would i get any of that if I watched through the original series today?

[Irish]

Would i get any of that if I watched through the original series today?

I'm not sure. The original show had bona-fide science fiction writers writing for it, and it was made in age when pulp stories and melodramas were a lot more common. The low grade production values and serious helpings of cheese might put you off.

But I think if you like the actors and you like the interplay between the characters then maybe. (Think again of Luke, Leia, and Han or in a narrower sense: Mulder and Scully).

Beyond the characters, though, the show did have some startling and original sci-fi ideas in it, which is also something subsequent incarnations of the franchise seriously lacked.

[Irish]

Why I like Picard better than Kirk is his intelligence and willingness to trust his companions with their strengths. Far too often Kirk is just damn lucky whereas Picard is fucking smart and wise.

Kirk is the guy I want on my side during a bar fight.

Picard is the guy I want showing up on my side during the subsequent trial.

:D

[Skitch]

Kirk is the guy I want on my side during a bar fight.

Picard is the guy I want showing up on my side during the subsequent trial.

:D

HA! You're not wrong! I would say same.

Except Picard is the guy I would want on my side in some intergalactic incident as well. His actions (I know, writers) in response to the craziness in Insurrection were so perfect it made me emotional.

"Sir we just fired on them! Should I raise shields?!"
"NO!, Surrender! NOW! Tell them we are beaming over, unarmed."

Perfect. PERFECT! Because thats what not-guilty people would do!! Oh man I loved that so much. I don't know that Kirk would've done same. Picard is playing [oh for fucks sake I was gonna say Picard is playing chess and Kirk checkers, but then I remembered 3d chess with Spock]

...

[Irish]

HA! You're not wrong! I would say same.

Except Picard is the guy I would want on my side in some intergalactic incident as well. His actions (I know, writers) in response to the craziness in Insurrection were so perfect it made me emotional.

"Sir we just fired on them! Should I raise shields?!"
"NO!, Surrender! NOW! Tell them we are beaming over, unarmed."

Perfect. PERFECT! Because thats what not-guilty people would do!! Oh man I loved that so much. I don't know that Kirk would've done same. Picard is playing [oh for fucks sake I was gonna say Picard is playing chess and Kirk checkers, but then I remembered 3d chess with Spock]

...

It's a good scene, but maybe not original to "Insurrection."

My memory is cloudy but I'm pretty sure there's an extremely similar moment in "Undiscovered Country" when the Enterprise fires on an unshielded Klingon ship. I think?


Dammit Skitch now I'm gonna end up watch all this shit again.

[Skitch]

Oh lets keep this going...I've also been rewatching Bond movies.

1. Goldeneye
2. License To Kill

other Bond movies

rapey Bond movies

(not included: Daniel Craig Bonds)

[Skitch]

It's a good scene, but maybe not original to "Insurrection."

My memory is cloudy but I'm pretty sure there's an extremely similar moment in "Undiscovered Country" when the Enterprise fires on an unshielded Klingon ship. I think?


Dammit Skitch now I'm gonna end up watch all this shit again.

Yes Undiscovered Country is what I meant. Sorry, I'm all busy over here making controversial statements in my safe space and I just watched eleventy Star Trek things in a week

[Wryan]

Kirk is the guy I want on my side during a bar fight.

Picard is the guy I want showing up on my side during the subsequent trial.

:D

HE. IS. SO. GUILTY!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1npL-TNFOAQ/hqdefault.jpg

[Grouchy]

Ok you guys talked me into it, I'm showing Wrath of Khan on my film club on Sunday.

Damn, I keep forgetting to notify Madman and Duke.

[Dukefrukem]

Ok you guys talked me into it, I'm showing Wrath of Khan on my film club on Sunday.

Damn, I keep forgetting to notify Madman and Duke.

I get automated alerts when you go live.

[Skitch]

I get automated alerts when you go live.

How do we set that up?

[Dukefrukem]

How do we set that up?

The bell

https://i.ibb.co/XtJfdJQ/twitch.png

[Skitch]

Oh its on youtube? Page link?

[Grouchy]

No, it's on Twitch. Fridays and Sundays 21:30 pm for Eastern US timezones.

twitch.tv/cinecolombo

[Skitch]

No, it's on Twitch. Fridays and Sundays 21:30 pm for Eastern US timezones.

twitch.tv/cinecolombo

Cool. Thanks. Subscribed.

[Grouchy]

Awesome! :)

[Skitch]

Awesome! :)

So how do you do it? Do you show the movie with yourself reacting? Or just you reacting? It would surprise me if you could stream the movie.

[Grouchy]

So how do you do it? Do you show the movie with yourself reacting? Or just you reacting? It would surprise me if you could stream the movie.
Hahah I do an intro sharing a few trivia and context about the movie, then show an animated short and then, yeah, I just stream it. So far I'm small enough that nobody notices it.

I should clarify that it wasn't originally my plan to do this. I did the same thing every week at a bar without charging entrance or gaining any profit from it, so now that all bars are closed, the owner asked me if I could do something to keep the brand alive because mine was the only activity they had that could be done online.

EDIT: When I did the first movie (which was Kung Fu Hustle, because last month's theme was mobster movies like this is outer space ones) I wrote Sony's legal department a very funny e-mail asking for permission. I'm sure no one even read it but it was fun writing it.

[Skitch]

Thats awesome! I hope they keep ignoring you lol. Our podcast got permanently banned from youtube about ep17 because I used a 20 second sound click from T2 that had Guns N Roses song in it. I was like, are you fucking serious? We had like 5 listeners lol

[Grouchy]

Thats awesome! I hope they keep ignoring you lol. Our podcast got permanently banned from youtube about ep17 because I used a 20 second sound click from T2 that had Guns N Roses song in it. I was like, are you fucking serious? We had like 5 listeners lol
It's ridiculous how much they police small things like that. And I think it varies a bit depending on the record company or even the band itself - I know Robert Fripp is infamous for paying for systematically taking down King Crimson clips on YouTube. And now in COVID-19 they uploaded a bunch of official stuff for free. So maybe he was just obsessive about quality.

[Skitch]

It was definitely their AI. Theres fucking porn on youtube....but a tiny sound clip got us killed. With no warning. And it fell under fair use too. No appeal ability, just straight axe. Oh well, live and learn.

[MadMan]

No, it's on Twitch. Fridays and Sundays 21:30 pm for Eastern US timezones.

twitch.tv/cinecolombo

Damn I always work those days. My work schedule keeps shifting these days. Still if I ever have one of them off I'll try and tune in!

I like Star Trek but I don't love it like I do Star Wars or Doctor Who.

[Grouchy]

It was definitely their AI. Theres fucking porn on youtube....but a tiny sound clip got us killed. With no warning. And it fell under fair use too. No appeal ability, just straight axe. Oh well, live and learn.
I know it's an AI, my theory is some music is more policed than other but I don't really know if that's true hahah

And damn, that's a shame, Madman. I started out doing it on Tuesdays too (it was Tuesday afternoons when I did it at the bar) but three nights a week just felt too much like an actual job so I cut that one.

[Philip J. Fry]

A few months ago, I don't know if you remember, several of us posted our top 10 animated films of the decade and one of them (I believe it was Peng) had Don Hertzfeldt's it's such a beautiful day (which I had never heard before of).

Well, I just watched it and I'm absolutely gutted. Great film and I think it's gonna make my internal list.

[MadMan]

I know it's an AI, my theory is some music is more policed than other but I don't really know if that's true hahah

And damn, that's a shame, Madman. I started out doing it on Tuesdays too (it was Tuesday afternoons when I did it at the bar) but three nights a week just felt too much like an actual job so I cut that one.

Yeah work busted me down to part time and partly because of coronavirus I have still been working regular hours lately. Also I never get Fridays off reguardless. Tuesdays are a good day for cool stuff but I never get those off either, heh.

[Peng]

A few months ago, I don't know if you remember, several of us posted our top 10 animated films of the decade and one of them (I believe it was Peng) had Don Hertzfeldt's it's such a beautiful day (which I had never heard before of).

Well, I just watched it and I'm absolutely gutted. Great film and I think it's gonna make my internal list.

Yes! (http://matchcut.artboiled.com/showthread.php?7411-Attack-Free-Unpopular-Opinion-Thread&p=613096&viewfull=1#post613096) Just one of the most exquisite heartbreaks ever.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GratefulTenderLabradorretrieve r-size_restricted.gif

Did you know about Don Hertzfeldt before that? I also recommend his shorts, especially the two World of Tomorrow thingies, in which there are two threads in our forum here started by Watashi.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BeLjIvcVV1M/WHxIyWkKgJI/AAAAAAAAYZc/_kqhwFmnS9M7zSs1eI6K8DncKyuaCF saQCLcB/s1600/Emily%2BPrime.gif

[Philip J. Fry]

I had seen his Simpson opening and I remember "My Anus is Bleeding", but I hadn't seriously taken a look at his work.

[Grouchy]

Not sure where to post it but tonight 9:30 PM Eastern Time on twitch.tv/cinecolombo it's time for Moon by Duncan Jones!

[Skitch]

Noted. Alarm set. May be late joiner but I'll make it.

[Dukefrukem]

I joined, didn't understand the words on the screen, came here... i understand now.

[Skitch]

Not sure where to post it but tonight 9:30 PM Eastern Time on twitch.tv/cinecolombo it's time for Moon by Duncan Jones!

ITS 930EST YOU FUCKING MOTHER FUCKER.

Im totally kidding lmao. whiskey whiskey whiskey

[Grouchy]

Hahah thanks guys! The words were just "Cine Colombo will begin shortly - please stand by!"

Enviado desde mi SM-G935F mediante Tapatalk

[Scar]

ITS 930EST YOU FUCKING MOTHER FUCKER.

Im totally kidding lmao. whiskey whiskey whiskey

Fucking lush.

*sips third martini*

[Wryan]

Steak fries are pointless.




Wait...is this supposed to be only about media?

[Skitch]

Steak fries are pointless.




Wait...is this supposed to be only about media?

NOPE.

Fuck steak fries.

[Philip J. Fry]

AC/DC bores me.

[Skitch]

AC/DC bores me.

ACDC is stupid and shit awful

[MadMan]

AC/DC is stupid, but they are my kind of stupid. I don't like steak fries either.

[Scar]

Steak fries are good, but you gotta get a good crisp on them. Otherwise, fuck that shit.

AC/DC.... Not a huge fan, but their concert was gloriously ear meltingly awesome.

[Irish]

AC/DC and steak frites? That's the best MC can do? You guys are weak.

JOHN CARPENTER IS AN OVERRATED DIRECTOR, HIS REP IS BASED LARGELY OFF ONE FILM, AND HE'S A TOTAL ASSHOLE TO BOOT.

KEANU REEVES SEEMES LIKE A GREAT GUY BUT HE'S NEVER LEARNED TO DELIVER A LINE AND NOW SHITTY ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALISTS ARE MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM.

[Scar]

AC/DC and steak frites? That's the best MC can do? You guys are weak.

JOHN CARPENTER IS AN OVERRATED DIRECTOR, HIS REP IS BASED LARGELY OFF ONE FILM, AND HE'S A TOTAL ASSHOLE TO BOOT.

KEANU REEVES SEEMES LIKE A GREAT GUY BUT HE'S NEVER LEARNED TO DELIVER A LINE AND NOW SHITTY ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALISTS ARE MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM.

Halloween
The Thing
Big Trouble in Little China

And in regard to KEANU.... *charges AR15 bolt*

But for the love of god, they should’ve cast someone else in Dracula

[Scar]

Glocks are high capacity paperweights for people who can’t shoot for shit.

That better, Irish? ;-)

[Skitch]

Glocks are garbage.

[Skitch]

Irish I feel if you believed that your wouldn't be yelling

[Irish]

And in regard to KEANU.... *charges AR15 bolt*

If you haven't seen it, I heartily recommend "Man of Tai Chi." It's a movie about this totally nutso martial arts tournament. Reeves directed and plays the villain and he does a great job on both fronts. The film didn't do well at the box office so I doubt he'll direct again but I totally dug it.

He also put together "Side by Side," a documentary about digital vs film, which is worth a look.

[Irish]

Glocks are high capacity paperweights for people who can’t shoot for shit.

That better, Irish? ;-)

lol. yeah!

totally silly but I love that construction, eg something I was thinking about last night: "The Witcher 3 is an RPG for people who don't like RPGs."

[Skitch]

I don't know if its unpopular, but the car chase scene in Ronin stresses me out.

[Irish]

Irish I feel if you believed that your wouldn't be yelling

I'm yelling in frustration because the two of them are overpraised given their output. I facepalm every time I see somebody drooling over them.

I have Carpenter (lol "the horror master") muted/blocked on twitter because I can't stand seeing him pop up in my feed, which he will do frequently if you follow any sci-fi or horror fan / website.

as for keanu, an example of the dumbest thing I've read recently: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/04/keanu-reeves-millennial/610669/

[Wryan]

My understanding of Irish has changed since finding out he's American Samoan.

[Irish]

Halloween

Yes, absolutely.


The Thing

Maaaaaaaaybe.


Big Trouble in Little China

Hell no.

[Dukefrukem]

Glocks are high capacity paperweights for people who can’t shoot for shit.


:(

My Glock9 can shoot underwater.

[Philip J. Fry]

Allen Iverson is overrated. While fun to watch and capable to score in bunches, he couldn't distinguish a good shot from a bad one, only passed when he wanted to and not when he had too and was a bad defender. For the way he played he was also miscast as a PG and should've stayed more as a SG surrounded by peiple at the poi t and the wing capable of taking the tougher assignments.

[Grouchy]

Glocks are high capacity paperweights for people who can’t shoot for shit.

https://oi4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/HawleyGriffin/dcb0b651-535d-452a-9236-57f2c4b9cbf3.jpg

[MadMan]

I like John Carpenter but he only made two films I would give 10s to in Halloween and The Thing. I love Big Trouble In Little China, though.

Keanu is a good action star and also good at comedy. Drama, no.

I don't know enough about handguns to post an opinion on Glocks.

[Grouchy]

I'm yelling in frustration because the two of them are overpraised given their output. I facepalm every time I see somebody drooling over them.

I have Carpenter (lol "the horror master") muted/blocked on twitter because I can't stand seeing him pop up in my feed, which he will do frequently if you follow any sci-fi or horror fan / website.
This is the first time I've considered joining Twitter.

[Scar]

:(

My Glock9 can shoot underwater.

My best friend is a cop who has numerous Glocks and is a great shot. The average cop is not. I just don’t like Glocks.

[Dukefrukem]

I get the Carpenter take. I mean, the Thing is one of my all time favorites, but Ghosts of Mars is one of the all-time worst movies ever.

[Dukefrukem]

My best friend is a cop who has numerous Glocks and is a great shot. The average cop is not. I just don’t like Glocks.

I just think it's a versatile weapon to have a around. I always picture myself needing one in a scene from San Andreas where everything is breaking, there's water and and sand everywhere and a bad guy coming after me and my gun drops to the ground but it will still not jam because it's a technical marvel.

[Grouchy]

I get the Carpenter take. I mean, the Thing is one of my all time favorites, but Ghosts of Mars is one of the all-time worst movies ever.
For me, the obvious reason why Irish is wrong is that, when he says Carpenter's reputation is based off one film, I'm not sure if he's talking about Halloween or The Thing.

Also:

Assault on Precinct 13
Escape from New York
Big Trouble in Little China
They Live!
In the Mouth of Madness

All awesome, landmark genre films. And I like the others too, I just thought I'd list the best of the best.

[Dukefrukem]

I totally agree with him if he's talking about Halloween.

I think it's one of the most overrated films ever. But yeh, my Carpenter ranking has a lot of stuff on it I like. https://letterboxd.com/dukefrukem/list/carpenters-best/detail/

The Fog, Christine, Starman , Vampires, the Ward, Ghosts of Mars... all bad.

[Grouchy]

Vampires is such a great, fun film - I'll watch it any time it's on. I love everything James Woods says and does in it. I might agree with you about The Fog, I remember thinking it wasn't one of his best... But I love Starman and Christine and if The Ward is the last feature film he makes, well, it was a good one. He's just a great filmmaker and a complete one - he can do everything and he does it all very well. Plus, like I said, his influence on genre is huge. Big Trouble in Little China inspired the characters from Mortal Kombat and Halloween imported the giallo to USA and thus created the slasher genre.

[Peng]

I may not vibe with Carpenter as much as others (I wish I love Prince of Darkness like many film people do), but the man's a master of widescreen composition. Loved Halloween, The Thing, and Assault on Precinct 13 because of this. The Fog I remember loving, especially the atmosphere, but it's been years. Christine was even longer back, and I watched it on probably cropped VCDs with Thai dubbing so need a rewatch. Starman and In the Mouth of Madness were ok if my memory is correct.

[Irish]

I totally agree with him if he's talking about Halloween.

I think it's one of the most overrated films ever. But yeh, my Carpenter ranking has a lot of stuff on it I like. https://letterboxd.com/dukefrukem/list/carpenters-best/detail/

The Fog, Christine, Starman , Vampires, the Ward, Ghosts of Mars... all bad.

No, I think "Halloween" is a legitimately great horror film, made in a decade replete with great horror films. Carpenter's heyday was really the mid-70s through the mid-80s, more or less, and everything he made after that (and notably after his split with Deborah Hill) was much less interesting.

It bugs me that his fans let him ride on that early reputation. Like, this guy basically quit the business at age 50 --- almost 20 years ago --- but they still talk about him as if he's vital, working, and relevant.

I think some folks in the thread vastly overestimate how much "The Thing" and "Big Trouble in Little China" register with mainstream audiences.

My big beef with both of those movies is (a) the characters are weak and (b) yeah, the special F/X are cool but they very nearly take over both movies and ruin them and (c) outside the inherited themes of "Who Goes There," neither movie is actually about anything. Also, if you wanna make a wuxia movie, then make one. Don't do this watered-down hybrid shit that sorta insults everybody equally.

ETA: I grew up absolutely loving "Escape from New York," but these days I don't think I could stand to watch it. The supporting cast (Borgnine, Stanton, Hayes, Barbeau) is a lotta fun but holy shit Kurt Russell is fucking terrible. It's Russell doing a shitty imitation of Clint Eastwood for 80 minutes and for the life of me I can't figure out why this supposedly world class director let him do that. I guess I'm officially old now because I hate that character. He's so goddamn boring.

[Dukefrukem]

ETA: I grew up absolutely loving "Escape from New York," but these days I don't think I could stand to watch it. The supporting cast (Borgnine, Stanton, Hayes, Barbeau) is a lotta fun but holy shit Kurt Russell is fucking terrible. It's Russell doing a shitty imitation of Clint Eastwood for 80 minutes and for the life of me I can't figure out why this supposedly world class director let him do that. I guess I'm officially old now because I hate that character. He's so goddamn boring.

This made me remember something I watched recently about Russell's move from Carpenter to "mainstream".

Russell was their third choice opposite Stallone. They originally wanted Arnold... and when he turned it down, they wanted Swayze... who did Roadhouse instead. It's a fun watch to understand just how troubled this production was.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quC8ZIHWaLQ

[Grouchy]

No, I think "Halloween" is a legitimately great horror film, made in a decade replete with great horror films. Carpenter's heyday was really the mid-70s through the mid-80s, more or less, and everything he made after that (and notably after his split with Deborah Hill) was much less interesting.

It bugs me that his fans let him ride on that early reputation. Like, this guy basically quit the business at age 50 --- almost 20 years ago --- but they still talk about him as if he's vital, working, and relevant.

I think some folks in the thread vastly overestimate how much "The Thing" and "Big Trouble in Little China" register with mainstream audiences.

My big beef with both of those movies is (a) the characters are weak and (b) yeah, the special F/X are cool but they very nearly take over both movies and ruin them and (c) outside the inherited themes of "Who Goes There," neither movie is actually about anything. Also, if you wanna make a wuxia movie, then make one. Don't do this watered-down hybrid shit that sorta insults everybody equally.

ETA: I grew up absolutely loving "Escape from New York," but these days I don't think I could stand to watch it. The supporting cast (Borgnine, Stanton, Hayes, Barbeau) is a lotta fun but holy shit Kurt Russell is fucking terrible. It's Russell doing a shitty imitation of Clint Eastwood for 80 minutes and for the life of me I can't figure out why this supposedly world class director let him do that. I guess I'm officially old now because I hate that character. He's so goddamn boring.
I don't think I agree with anything on this post. I mean, the '80s were indeed Carpenter's best decade, but he kept on being great until he retired. That's more than most directors can say. And Russell is just great as Snake, even more fun in Escape from L.A.

EDIT: The criticism for Big Trouble is also ludicrous. Clearly the cross-culture thing is a huge part of the movie's appeal.

[Morris Schæffer]

This made me remember something I watched recently about Russell's move from Carpenter to "mainstream".

Russell was their third choice opposite Stallone. They originally wanted Arnold... and when he turned it down, they wanted Swayze... who did Roadhouse instead. It's a fun watch to understand just how troubled this production was.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quC8ZIHWaLQ

It's a solid buddy flick. The video namechecks Runaway Train. Have you seen it? That's one of the best action thrillers ever.

[Wryan]

Kurt did better work in Guardians 2 than he did in most of his other big career movies. He was not very good in Hateful 8.

[Dukefrukem]

It's a solid buddy flick. The video namechecks Runaway Train. Have you seen it? That's one of the best action thrillers ever.

Adding to queue.

[Skitch]

Runaway Train is fantastic.

[Ezee E]

Coppola is a flash in the pan for the 70s, but never did anything good afterwards.

This may not even constitute as unpopular.

[Scar]

I just think it's a versatile weapon to have a around. I always picture myself needing one in a scene from San Andreas where everything is breaking, there's water and and sand everywhere and a bad guy coming after me and my gun drops to the ground but it will still not jam because it's a technical marvel.

As long as you get good groups with it, then by all means.

If you’re looking for a true beat the f’ out of weapon, then you need to talk to Mr Kalashnikov.

[kuehnepips]

I hate Kurt.

[Yxklyx]

Runaway Train is fantastic.

Oh yeah it is! I just re-watched it a couple of days ago too.

[Scar]

And one of my favorite meme's in regards to Glocks / pistols....

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[Morris Schæffer]

Oh yeah it is! I just re-watched it a couple of days ago too.

That ending. So rare in action movies. Story is based on Kurosawa short story and was originally going to be a comedy. Or something like that.

[Grouchy]

Well, it was about time for a new avatar.

[MadMan]

For me, the obvious reason why Irish is wrong is that, when he says Carpenter's reputation is based off one film, I'm not sure if he's talking about Halloween or The Thing.

Also:

Assault on Precinct 13
Escape from New York
Big Trouble in Little China
They Live!
In the Mouth of Madness

All awesome, landmark genre films. And I like the others too, I just thought I'd list the best of the best.

Same here. Also The Fog is good, too and so is Vampires. I have not seen Ghost of Mars, though. Carpenter is one of my favorite directors however so I am biased. Also nice avatar.

[MadMan]

I totally agree with him if he's talking about Halloween.

I think it's one of the most overrated films ever. But yeh, my Carpenter ranking has a lot of stuff on it I like. https://letterboxd.com/dukefrukem/list/carpenters-best/detail/

The Fog, Christine, Starman , Vampires, the Ward, Ghosts of Mars... all bad.

I liked Christine. Need to see Starman.

[MadMan]

Hehe I love Escape From New York, and I'm a Kurt Russell fan.

[MadMan]

Allen Iverson is overrated. While fun to watch and capable to score in bunches, he couldn't distinguish a good shot from a bad one, only passed when he wanted to and not when he had too and was a bad defender. For the way he played he was also miscast as a PG and should've stayed more as a SG surrounded by peiple at the poi t and the wing capable of taking the tougher assignments.

Yes. AI did great in Philly and then he became lazy in Denver.

[Skitch]

I just rewatched Escape from NY last week. Still love and Russell in it.

Ghosts of Mars I've felt embarrassed watching, its just so bad.

[TGM]

Recently caught up on all the Pixar films I hadn't yet seen. My thoughts on them, which I kinda can't help but feel will likely be more appropriate for the most part being posted in here than in the general film discussion thread:

Monsters, Inc. - I liked this, and found it to be a satisfyingly creative, if a bit clinical, experience. Saw that Pete Docter directed this one, and I can totally see that, though he has certainly improved in leaps and bounds since this film. Only makes me even more hyped for Soul.

Monsters University - And I think I actually liked this one even more than Monsters, Inc, surprisingly enough. o.O

Where the first movie had some good ideas, this one has a number of character moments that just aren't quite there in the first one. It might not be as creative, but it was able to latch hold of me in a way that the first didn't quite manage. I also like that it's quite a different experience from the first altogether, an entirely different sort of movie that just happens to be taking place in the same universe. I honestly didn't expect much, but I was thoroughly impressed.

And the same guy who directed this, Dan Scanlon, also did the most recent Pixar film, Onward, which similarly was a surprising watch in just how genuinely good it was, despite its less than stellar marketing, and which was also filled with some truly great character moments, so he'll definitely be one to keep an eye on moving forward.

Cars trilogy - Alright, so this thing gets off to a bit of a rough start, as the first movie was a pretty hard sit for the most part, though it did mostly win me over by the end of it. Still though, it's easily lower-tier Pixar, and left me truly dreading the other two.

But, much to my surprise, each film is in fact an improvement over the last. Like, Cars 2 I had always heard is way worse than the first, and one of, if not THE worst Pixar film. Yet I'd honestly say it's not only better than the first, but significantly so at that. Like, the whole concept behind the Cars franchise is already incredibly bizarre, so I dug that this movie just goes all the way with the bizarreness of it, and hopping into the spy genre along the way also helps give it a much more unique feel from the first film at that, which is something I almost always appreciate when a sequel does, as opposed to just making the exact same movie over again. So yeah, I was expecting a cringe-fest, but I honestly thought it was highly entertaining, much to my surprise.

And then Cars 3 returns closer to the series' roots, yet I'd still say it works better than the first movie. Notably because I'd say the characters are much more likeable in this go around, but similar to Monsters University, I'd say that just the general storytelling is a lot more well refined by the time they got to the third Cars flick. Sorta like how Monsters, Inc. felt like a movie that had some creative ideas and was more interested in the world building that Monsters University then decided to more fully explore its characters in that world, Cars 3 has a similar feel to it, and comes out as a much more satisfying all around film for it.

So if I were to rank them, I'd say Cars 3 > Cars 2 > Cars. While the first Cars is low-tier Pixar, I'd say that the second two are honestly somewhere in the mid-tier. Not great movies, but certainly fine and entertaining all the same.

A Bug's Life - Technically a rewatch, as I first saw this when it originally released in theaters, yet I hadn't seen it since then, and I literally couldn't remember a single thing about it. And upon rewatching, it made sense why I didn't remember it. Sometimes when it's been so long since you've seen a movie that you barely remember it, as you're rewatching it, it'll start to come back to you, and you'll have those moments where you're like, oh yeah, I remember that now! Yeah, not here, I literally retained absolute none of this movie. And I can see why, it's not all that good, and is a completely forgettable experience.

Ratatouille - This, on the other hand, I’m kinda baffled by. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say anything bad about this movie, but my lord, this was awful. Horrible writing, inconsistent, unlikeable, and cringe-inducing character work (literally the only even mildly likable character in the entire movie for me was the rat dad, who I honestly felt was the only reasonable character in the whole film, even though that was clearly not the intention of the filmmakers), I wanted to shut this off no less than three separate times, and in fact had to pause it once just to shake my head in disbelief and audibly ask aloud, “what the fuck am I watching??” Shocking to see this is Brad Bird who directed this, as he’s usually much better than this. But yeah, this is not only his worst, this is the worst Pixar film I’ve seen yet at that.

But anyways, those are the ones that I needed to catch up on, as I had seen everything else. So with that all said, I guess here's what I'd go with for my Pixar rankings:

Inside Out
Wall-E
Toy Story
Coco
Toy Story 3
Toy Story 2
Onward
Finding Nemo
The Incredibles
Cars 3
Incredibles 2
Monsters University
Monsters, Inc.
Cars 2
The Good Dinosaur
Finding Dory
Up
Brave
Cars
A Bug's Life
Toy Story 4
Ratatouille

Granted, a lot of the middle section can easily slide around. I feel most confident in the top six, as well as the bottom five.

But yeah, so that's Pixar then. For the most part, I'd say that most of the movies range from good to okay, but there's really only 6 or so that I would say are truly great films. They're still a mostly consistent studio, though I do feel like their reputation is perhaps a tad higher than warranted, after having now seen all their output. *shrug*

[TGM]

Also, Halloween would very likely make my Top 25 all time favorite movies. (Not sure this is an unpopular opinion, just chiming in to recent discussion here.)

[MadMan]

I loved Ratatouille. A Bug's Life is decent/solid at best. I am so behind on Pixar viewings.

[Grouchy]

Wow, I love Ratatouille with a passion. I think the story is so clever and opens itself up to so many layers of interpretation.

[Dukefrukem]

Wow, I love Ratatouille with a passion. I think the story is so clever and opens itself up to so many layers of interpretation.

It's by far the best Pixar movie. I'd hear arguments for Wall-E but yeh.. Ratatouille for the win.

[Grouchy]

It's by far the best Pixar movie. I'd hear arguments for Wall-E but yeh.. Ratatouille for the win.
I'm partial to The Incredibles but I'm aware it's more of a personal preference.

[Skitch]

I'm partial to The Incredibles but I'm aware it's more of a personal preference.

This would be my response. I also like Ratatouille.

[TGM]

I was correct to choose this thread for that post I see. :p

[Skitch]

I was correct to choose this thread for that post I see. :p

But what I've found in chatting Pixar with people, even though the lists are seemingly never the same, theres few that people really dislike. Other than some of the cash in sequels (looking at you Cars), most of their work is pretty solid entertainment.

[Skitch]

What I'm trying to say is other than those that have chimed in here, I'm seen Ratatouille at the bottom of as many lists as the top.

[Grouchy]

Yeah. I guess The Good Dinosaur is particularly bland... but I don't hate it.

[transmogrifier]

I hate Ratatouille as well. It is mean-spirited and kinda dull.

Wall-E, Toy Story 3, and Finding Nemo are the only ones I care about and will defend (not that I ever need to). There are a bunch of others that are solid and I like well enough (e.g., Up, Coco, Toy Story, Monsters Inc.), there are some that I find incredibly overrated (The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Inside Out, Toy Story 2), and there are some that are flat out not good (Monsters University, Finding Dory, Toy Story 4)

[Morris Schæffer]

The toy stories are the only ones i love, probably because I find them more relatable than rat wants to become a masterchef. I guess that’s a strength of animation, there are precious little limits you can set yourself compared to live action, but rat wants to become a masterchef, because it rhymes with Ratatouille, well, I dunno. And I actually like the movie, but Toy story 1-3 is tops. Most of their movies are fun and enjoyable.

[Grouchy]

I think besides the rhyme, the joke is that rats will eat basically anything.

[Wryan]

What are y'all talking about the "rhyme" in the title?

[Grouchy]

What are y'all talking about the "rhyme" in the title?
The pun with the dish called "Ratatouille".

[Dukefrukem]

The pun with the dish called "Ratatouille".

Like myself before watching the movie, I think a lot of people are not familiar with

https://img.buzzfeed.com/video-api-prod/assets/eb44570519264864814264f7f0a5e4 7a/BFV13909_BakedRatatouille-ThumbTextless1080.jpg

[Skitch]

That does not look appetizing.

[Grouchy]

I don't like eggplant but remove that and do all the other veggies and I'd sure try it.

[Irish]

It's basically French stir-fry, you weirdoes

[Wryan]

Oh just rat/ratatouille? Aight.

And I'd love to try that. I like veggies and I'm not a sourpussed food critic who needs a refresher on how peasant-blighted-but-sunny his childhood was.

[Dukefrukem]

It's delicious guys.

[Skitch]

I'd try it for sure, but...is it supposed to be a main dish? Looks like a side.

[Philip J. Fry]

That does not look appetizing.
Speak for yourself.

[Morris Schæffer]

Lol guys

[Skitch]

I don't like eggplant but remove that and do all the other veggies and I'd sure try it.

I have no idea what all is in there. I'm not sure if I like eggplant or not. Which color is the eggplant? I see zucchini, tomato, some sort of squash, rimmed with some tomato sauce, and topped with either spinach or seaweed.

[Dukefrukem]

I must be the only person on the planet that would eat every single thing put in front of me, regardless of texture, color or known/unknown elements.

[Skitch]

I must be the only person on the planet that would eat every single thing put in front of me, regardless of texture, color or known/unknown elements.

You are not. Though I do draw the line at insects and arachnids.

I didn't say I wouldn't eat it, hell, I like everything I listed that I think is in it, I just meant it isn't pretty looking lol.

[Philip J. Fry]

My line is papaya. What a disgusting, repugnant fruit.

[TGM]

My line is papaya. What a disgusting, repugnant fruit.

Makes for a great song, though. :p

[Ezee E]

I've decided to cut down on my bat intake.

[Grouchy]

I must be the only person on the planet that would eat every single thing put in front of me, regardless of texture, color or known/unknown elements.
Same here. I only dislike eggplant because of childhood trauma.

And I'm not the biggest fan of champagne and cheddar cheese. Other than that, I enjoy everything.