Disney+

[Dukefrukem]

Needs it's own thread now.

Confirmed today to launch in late 2019

Already confirmed projects:


Rogue One’ Prequel Series with Diego Luna signed to return
Tom Hiddleston's LOKI Series
The Mandalorian
Series based on Monsters Inc.
Series based on High School Musical
Scarlet Witch (Elizabeth Olsen) and a Winter Soldier (Sebastian Stan) & Falcon (Anthony Mackie) team-up series.



https://deadline.com/2018/11/rogue-one-prequel-streaming-series-diego-luna-star-wars-disney-plus-1202498593/

[Skitch]

This is the first post-Netflix streaming service I'm actually interested in.

[Ivan Drago]

The only thing that will get me to commit to this streaming service is if it has the majority of Fox Kids' catalog from the 90s--and that's actually in the realm of possibility.

But until then, nah, I'm good.

[MadMan]

Yeah unless they have something that really appeals to me I will pass. I already use three pay streaming services and a bunch of free ones. Disney should have done this years ago.

[Dukefrukem]

Gonna be called Vision and the Scarlet Witch (https://deadline.com/2018/11/spider-women-captain-marvel-and-harley-quinn-females-fly-in-the-face-of-old-hollywood-perceptions-1202485612/)

[Dukefrukem]

So now we know how Loki will be used in the Disney+ show. Also gets Rick & Morty showrunner.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/marvels-loki-series-adds-rick-morty-writer-1187204?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Heat%20 Vision_now_2019-02-15%2012:26:40_acouch&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_hea t_vision


"the show will follow Loki as the trickster and shapeshifter pops up throughout human history as unlikely influencer on historical events."

[Ivan Drago]

There's no way Justin Roiland doesn't have a recurring role, be it through voiceover or whatever.

[Dukefrukem]

Majority share of two streaming platforms?

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/27/18243727/disney-hulu-stake-att-warnermedia-disney-plus

[MadMan]

Disney is going to own almost everything soon. Mouse monopoly oh joy.

[Ivan Drago]

I'm just trying to find a positive way of thinking without cynicism at this point.

[Irish]

I'm waiting for the stumble.

Disney's post-Walt flush maps roughly onto strong leadership. (Ovitz and Eisner in the 80s and 90s, Iger in the 2010s).

But the company might be in trouble once Iger retires and there's a vacuum at the top. He's been trying to leave for a few years now and AFAIK they still don't have anyone to replace him.

[MadMan]

It's weird how under Eisner Disney seemed mortal, or weaker. Now they are hell bent on owning everything. Pixar really gave them a boost.

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Skitch]

Beast is a villain?

[Philip J. Fry]

Beast is a villain?I guess they didn't thknk Gaston was enough of a creep.

[Dukefrukem]

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[Irish]

Yeah. I can't imagine that going over.

[Ezee E]

When did he get that tattooed arm sleeve? Find out in Episode 3's flashback.

[Dukefrukem]

The Simpsons’ Headed To Disney+ In Exclusive SVOD Deal

https://deadline.com/2019/04/the-simpsons-disney-in-exclusive-svod-deal-1202594446/

Entire ‘Star Wars’ Franchise Will Be On Disney+ Within Its First Year / The Mandalorian Will Be Available on Disney+ From Day One

https://deadline.com/2019/04/star-wars-franchise-coming-to-disney-within-first-year-after-launch-1202594388/

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[Dukefrukem]

oh and $8.99 a month or on an annual basis for $69.99 - Nov 12th launch

https://deadline.com/2019/04/disney-announces-launch-date-and-pricing-for-disney-streaming-service-1202594147/

[Irish]

Thought I saw $6.99 somewhere?

It's 2 buck but $8.99 puts them in line with Amazon's lowest tier, and Amazon has a helluva lot more content.

[Skitch]

Thought I saw $6.99 somewhere?

It's 2 buck but $8.99 puts them in line with Amazon's lowest tier, and Amazon has a helluva lot more content.

Maybe works out to that at 70$ annual price?

[Irish]

Maybe works out to that at 70$ annual price?

Ahhhhh of course. Good catch!

[Dukefrukem]

Marvel What If... Animated Series also announced.

https://deadline.com/2019/04/disney-plus-programs-movies-full-list-marvel-star-wars-pixar-simpsons-streaming-service-1202594496/

List of shit available at Launch


FILMS

101 Dalmatians
A Bug’s Life
A Goofy Movie
An Extremely Goofy Movie
Bambi
Bao
Big Hero 6
Born in China
Cars
Fantasia
Finding Dory
Finding Nemo
Free Solo
Frozen
Fun and Fancy Free
Hercules
High School Musical
Honey I Shrunk the Kids
Inside Out
Iron Man
Lady and the Tramp
Lilo & Stitch
Mary Poppins
Mickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three Musketeers
Mickey’s Once Upon a Christmas
Moana
Monsters University
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
Pixar Short Films Collection Vol 1
Ratatouille
Remember the Titans
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Sleeping Beauty
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope
Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (animated series)
Steamboat Willie
The Good Dinosaur
The Incredibles
The Little Mermaid
The Parent Trap (1961)
The Prince & The Pauper (1990)
The Princess Diaries
The Rocketeer
The Sorcerer’s Apprentice (short)
The Sword in the Stone
The Three Caballeros
Thor: The Dark World
Toy Story
Tron (1982)
Up
Wall-E
Zootopia

TELEVISION SERIES

Amazing Planet
Andi Mack (Seasons 1-3)
Boy Meets World
Brain Games
Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan
Dr. K’s Exotic Animals
Dr. Oakley Yukon Vet
Drain the Ocean
DuckTales (1987)
DuckTales (2016, Season 1)
Earth Live
Goof Troop
Great Migrations
Howie Mandel’s Animals Doing Things
Kim Possible
Malcolm in the Middle
Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy (animated series)
Marvel’s Ultimate Spider-Man (animated series)
Mickey and the Roadster Racers (Seasons 1-2)
Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
Mickey Mouse Shorts
One Strange Rock
Raven’s Home
Rocky Mountain Animal Rescue
Star Wars Rebels
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (series)
That’s So Raven
The Incredible Dr. Pol
The Simpsons
Unlikely Animal Friends
Wicked Tuna

[Wryan]

Lol WandaVision.

[Ezee E]

Doing a "What If..." is brilliant. You can really bring in anyone from the Marvel universe and see what sticks with people.

[Irish]

Deadline updated their article: "Disney said its high-stakes entry into the crowded streaming fray will cost $6.99 a month when it launches November 12 in the U.S., with a full-year option of $69.99, or $5.83 a month"

Reported as $6.99 from CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/disney-plus-will-be-available-starting-november-12-for-6point99-a-month.html

Also in the news: apparently Skitch and I are really bad at basic math. :D

[Ezee E]

My Disney stock shot up.

[Dukefrukem]

My Disney stock shot up.

So did Disney's actual stock.

[Skitch]

Also in the news: apparently Skitch and I are really bad at basic math. :D

Hey I don't read articles I just speculate at news article titles people tell me about on a website with a couple dozen posters! LOL

[Irish]

Honestly $6.99 is so low I might even sign up for this, at least for the first month.

That's a pretty cheap rental to rewatch the first ~8 seasons of "The Simpsons."

[Dukefrukem]

Honestly $6.99 is so low I might even sign up for this, at least for the first month.

That's a pretty cheap rental to rewatch the first ~8 seasons of "The Simpsons."

It's a no brainer for me. The Simpsons was a great addition. My only concern is the Disney+ app will be available on Amazon Fire/Cube/SmartTV shit.

[Ezee E]

So did Disney's actual stock.

Same thing.

[Ivan Drago]

I'm left wondering what streaming services this will hinder to the point of killing. Netflix, Warner, and Apple+ for sure, but Shudder? Amazon? Sorry, but it's hard to get out of doomsday mode over here.

So that's why I don't have the incentive to cave on this yet. . .but I can't say I'm not tempted by The Simpsons, the Stargirl movie (don't judge me; loved the book) and DARKWING FREAKIN' DUCK.

EDIT: Also there's plans for a bundle with Disney+, ESPN+ *and* Hulu. That's an enticing enough offer to quit cable if the Mouse Ears still let Hulu offer live TV.

[Irish]

I don't think it will hinder anyone.

Netflix is too established. Amazon is too big. Services like Shudder are so niche that they don't compete directly with Disney. (Unless you take Reed Hastings'the view where everything online is competition.)

I'm wondering how they're gonna brand and market the service post-merger. Will it be like Netflix, where kids-stuff is segregated into a different menu and subsystem?

How are they gonna attract college boys who want to watch "Deadpool" without pissing off the soccer moms want to play "The Little Mermaid" for the their toddler?

[Ezee E]

Is Amazon's service succeeding? Seems like all the other ones to me.

[Dukefrukem]

Is Amazon's service succeeding? Seems like all the other ones to me.

I think so. Even without the free videos I still find it valuable to watch movies that are still in theaters or got limited release. I bought Dragged Across Concrete on Amazon for $6. And I didn't even pay $6 for it because every time I buy something on Amazon, sometimes I defer the 2 day shipping and they give me $1 digital credit every time I do that.

Netflix has a great customer base, but I find myself watching it less and less lately.

[MadMan]

I can see eventual streaming services buddling happening down the road, and oh hey look it's cable all over again...

[Irish]

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^ Yet another reason why Disney sucks

[Dukefrukem]

People are quick to jump on this stuff but could be a temporary thing as they get their internal shit together and consolidate.

[Ivan Drago]

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^ Yet another reason why Disney sucks

This is something I've been thinking about ever since the merger took effect. RIP arthouse theaters.

[Ezee E]

So what christmas movies will be shown now??

[Dukefrukem]

So what christmas movies will be shown now??

Gremlins

[Dukefrukem]

Ha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-uFaBZZ5Rk

[Dukefrukem]

So when people were complaining about the use of Baron Zemo, Disney was saving him for a TV series. I like it. Better than the shit villains Agents of Shield goes up against.

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[Dukefrukem]

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[Dukefrukem]

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[Dukefrukem]

Great idea.

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[Dukefrukem]

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[Skitch]

Great idea.
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Didnt I say somewhere that they should do this?? If not here I certainly said it to my comic friends irl

[Ezee E]

Two years to get TV together seems awfully long, but I guess it shows Disney+ has some tenured ideas.

[Dukefrukem]

Two years to get TV together seems awfully long, but I guess it shows Disney+ has some tenured ideas.

Look how long it took for them to produce one season of each Netflix show.

[TGM]

Most of those are ideas that I would totally be interested in seeing if they were movies, but absolutely have no interest in at all whatsoever as TV series. Just not my medium anymore, especially in this era where series like this are oftentimes less episodic and more just 10+ hour long movies. Yeah, no thanks, give me the 2 hour cut please.

[Irish]

I'm curious about Loki, but only because of Hiddleston.

Doubly curious about who, exactly, will tune in for a fucking Hawkeye show with Jeremy Renner.

[Skitch]

Doubly curious about who, exactly, will tune in for a fucking Hawkeye show with Jeremy Renner.

I'm not sure either, on the other hand, there are like what, 7 seasons of Arrow? And its on its last season.

[Ezee E]

More interested in Hawkeye than Loki, by a wide margin.

[Skitch]

I gotta say, I'm really in for that What If? animated show.

[Ezee E]

I gotta say, I'm really in for that What If? animated show.

I didn't hear that it was animated. Even better.

[Dukefrukem]

Doubly curious about who, exactly, will tune in for a fucking Hawkeye show with Jeremy Renner.

I got the impression Renner will be a side character and the main focus will be on the development of Kate Bishop, which Marvel will use to replace Renner long term and in future avenger movies.

Essentially the same thing they are doing with Florence Pugh ushering in a new Black Widow.

[Ezee E]

Five years from now, it'll almost be some kind of badge of honor to have not been in a DC/Marvel movie. It's getting tough to think of actors who haven't been in at least once.

This isn't asking for a list btw.

[Dukefrukem]

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^ Yet another reason why Disney sucks

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https://www.fathomevents.com/events/tcm2019-alien-40th-anniversary-1979

[Lazlo]

Wronnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nng

https://www.fathomevents.com/events/tcm2019-alien-40th-anniversary-1979

That's not really the same thing. He's talking about stand-alone theaters doing their own booking, not Fathom, which is owned by Regal and AMC.

Side note, went to Fathom's "TCM Big Screen Classics" 30th Anniversary showing of Glory last night and it looked and sounded atrocious. Extremely low image resolution combined with digital artifacts, jumps, and errors throughout the first ten minutes. And the sound was like a half-second out of sync with the picture. Such a waste of time.

[Ivan Drago]

That's not really the same thing. He's talking about stand-alone theaters doing their own booking, not Fathom, which is owned by Regal and AMC.

Yeah and even then, they started sending out prints again shortly after that development. The arthouse theater I'm a member of got the 4K restoration of Alien and a 35mm print of Aliens from Fox, and they'll be screening them this coming weekend.

We're also screening the original Indiana Jones trilogy (!!) on Labor Day weekend. How we got those from LucasFilm under the watchful eye of our Mouse Eared overlords, I have no idea, but all appears to be well on that front for the moment.

[Skitch]

Fucking hell I wish I had theater like that around here.

[Irish]

From MZS:

"I just heard from a film booker that Disney is no longer permitting repertory bookings of 20th Century Fox titles in theaters that show current releases. Rep houses and nonprofits are still OK. Any other bookers encountered this? The tip is legit on my end.

Exemptions are repertory-only, nonprofits, universities, museums, and free or outdoor screenings. Apparently the only individual 20th Century Fox title exempt from Disney's commercial repertory screening ban is Rocky Horror. Fathom Events is its own thing & is not affected."

https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1154127786480680961

[Ivan Drago]

From MZS:

"I just heard from a film booker that Disney is no longer permitting repertory bookings of 20th Century Fox titles in theaters that show current releases. Rep houses and nonprofits are still OK. Any other bookers encountered this? The tip is legit on my end.

Exemptions are repertory-only, nonprofits, universities, museums, and free or outdoor screenings. Apparently the only individual 20th Century Fox title exempt from Disney's commercial repertory screening ban is Rocky Horror. Fathom Events is its own thing & is not affected."

https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1154127786480680961

Ah my arthouse theater is also a nonprofit so no wonder nothing's changed on my end.

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Dukefrukem]

Sign up for D23, and get Disney+ for $4/month by paying for a three year commitment priced at $140.97 . (that's cheaper than a year of netflix)


https://d23.com/disney-plus-exclusive-offer/

[Ezee E]

To join D23 is $100 and gets you:

A 2019 Welcome Kit: Gold Membership Gift of 10 FAN-tastic Milestones Pin Set, personalized Membership Card, and Certificate
Access to exclusive D23 Expo 2019 ticket discount and access to member-only benefits on-site
A one-year subscription (four issues) to the exquisite Disney twenty-three Quarterly Publication
Special promotional offers, discounts, and exclusive merchandise opportunities
Access to over 100 Member events across the country
Ability to bring up to one guest to select D23 member events

[Ezee E]

Think I'll just do Disney+

[Dukefrukem]

That's the gold option. There's a free option too.

[Ezee E]

That's the gold option. There's a free option too.

You can get that pricing with the free option? Wild.

[Dukefrukem]

You can get that pricing with the free option? Wild.

Yup. Save $69 over those three years.

[Dukefrukem]

Just putting this here in case anyone's interested - 3 years for $5 a month

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/deals/os-et-disney-plus-streaming-deal-20191007-tajxpva675e37jmx3y3a2mizwm-story.html

[Irish]

Weak offer. That's a little more than a $1 per month savings against a whopping 3 year commitment, on an untested service.

[Dukefrukem]

I can't tell if these are leaks all due to the server problems Disney had at launch, or if it was released legitimately. This shit looks awesome.

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[Wryan]

That's a very weird series. It has the whiff of darts puncturing random pieces of paper on a wall. I'm sure some will be fun tho, and I look forward to the animation.

[Ezee E]

Loved the What If... comics back in the day.

[Skitch]

I'm more excited about the What If series than anything else in phase 4 (except maybe Thor).

[Dukefrukem]

groaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

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[Dukefrukem]

Just learned that the Disney+ App is only available on Samsung SmartTVs purchased after 2016.

The two biggest TVs in my house are pre-2016.

ughhhhh

[Ezee E]

Good idea to wait for a few kinks to be worked out, along with being able to binge Mandalorian...

[Dukefrukem]

With Wikipedia these days... HOW do you fuck up this badly?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DisneyPlus/comments/dvsf0g/missing_and_mixed_up_episode_m ega_thread/

[TGM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFeZx3Xkvgg

[Irish]

groaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan


We presented The Simpsons in 16:9 aspect ratio at launch in order to guarantee visual quality and consistency across all 30 seasons. Over time, Disney+ will roll out new features and additional viewing options. As part of this, in early 2020, Disney+ will make the first 19 seasons (and some episodes from Season 20) of The Simpsons available in their original 4:3 aspect ratio, giving subscribers a choice of how they prefer to view the popular series.

https://news.avclub.com/boy-we-hope-somebody-got-fired-for-that-blunder-disne-1839807192

[Dukefrukem]

Thank god.

[Dukefrukem]

Only Disney can survive a launch like this... (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50461171)

[Ezee E]

Only Disney can survive a launch like this... (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50461171)

THe dark web fascinates me, but too scared to touch that on my computer

[Skitch]

And this is why i wait on new stuff to sort itself out.

[Ezee E]

In looking at social media and talking with people, I'm amazed at the amount of people watching tv shows from the 90s just because that's what they remember.

I feel like this nostalgia will only work for so long until people are probably bored of it.

Good thing Disney got people to buy the year package.

[MadMan]

I donno people still used Netflix and Hulu to watch 90s shows. I didn't sign up for Disney+ because I'm not big on nostalgia. Live in the now, or just wait for your favorite old show to come back with new seasons.

[Ezee E]

I donno people still used Netflix and Hulu to watch 90s shows. I didn't sign up for Disney+ because I'm not big on nostalgia. Live in the now, or just wait for your favorite old show to come back with new seasons.

Yeah, I guess with The Office and Friends being the most-watched shows on Netflix, it shouldn't have surprised me about nostalgia on Disney+.

[MadMan]

Overworked people are the ones most likely to go home and just throw on something they can leave on in the background while they sit on their phone. Trust me I've been there too many times, although I don't think I'm that overworked.

[KelseyRose]

I've always been a pretty big Disney fan, growing up with it. Same with the Marvel universe. I've had Disney+ since it came out and I'm liking it pretty well so far. The new Jeff Goldblum show is kind of cringy but I do love the man so I'm following up with it. It's almost like "How it's made" but with Jeff. And we've been keeping up with The Mandalorian, really well done show. Why can't the producers/directors of that work on the new Star Wars movies that are turning into crap? The Last Jedi was awful... but that's a whole other conversation. It's nice they have a everything on Disney plus. Old, old movies and shows, even the shorts and old Mickey cartoons. I agree to the above, it's definitely nice for nostalgia.

[KelseyRose]

Weak offer. That's a little more than a $1 per month savings against a whopping 3 year commitment, on an untested service.

Agreed. Might as well pay monthly instead of months at a time when you're not getting a huge discount. I'm still having glitches with mine here and there, they really should have focused more on a beta or something. Bah.

[Dukefrukem]

Oh man. Jump to the Last Jedi thread asap.

[origami_mustache]

I wish they had all the old cartoons...even the racist ones haha...I mean I get why they don't, but I'd respect full disclosure and owning your own history more than hiding and formulating false narratives.

[Dukefrukem]

I wish they had all the old cartoons...even the racist ones haha...I mean I get why they don't, but I'd respect full disclosure and owning your own history more than hiding and formulating false narratives.

Isnt Songs of the South the only one that isnt available?

[origami_mustache]

Isnt Songs of the South the only one that isnt available?

feature films maybe, but not the short films and WWII propaganda

[Dukefrukem]

So this is what got Rick Moranis to return to acting.

https://deadline.com/2020/02/honey-i-shrunk-the-kids-reboot-rick-moranis-1202858344/

[MadMan]

I am glad he's back at least for that movie.

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Dukefrukem]

Hilarious

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[Ezee E]

Kudos to whoever the hell decided to watch Splash.

[MadMan]

I still haven't seen all of it.

[Dukefrukem]

Yes!

https://deadline.com/2020/05/national-treasure-tv-series-in-works-disney-1202929586/

[Dukefrukem]

Oh shit!

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[Lazlo]

Oh shit!

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Saw some people wondering how D+ will handle the language in the show, given that they're very much stifling anything not "family-friendly." Will there be two versions, like ESPN is doing with The Last Dance (unedited language on ESPN, edited on ESPN2), I wonder? Or is it really only mermaid butts and smoking they care about covering up?

[Dukefrukem]

All good questions. I would be annoyed if they censored the whole show.

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Anything but the integral original show is unacceptable.

[TGM]

I'll watch it.

[Irish]

whoa

Disney’s Head of Streaming Is New TikTok C.E.O. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/business/media/tiktok-ceo-kevin-mayer.html)

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Dukefrukem]

Thank you!

[Philip J. Fry]

No prob.

[Dukefrukem]

June 5:

Finding Atlantis, Genius by Stephen Hawking (season 1), Hostile Planet, Japan: Between Earth and Sky, Lost City of Machu Picchu, Maleficent: Mistress of Evil, Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters.

June 12:

Artemis Fowl, Primal Survivor (seasons 1-2), Mighty Med (seasons 1-4), The Sandlot: Heading Home. June 19: Big Sur: Wild California, Egypt's Treasure Guardians, Toy Story of Terror!, Toy Story That Time Forgot, Unlikely Animal Friends.

June 26:

ANT Farm (season 1-3), Into the Unknown: Making Disney Frozen 2.

We will also get getting new episodes of: Be Our Chef, Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian, Disney Family Sundays, Disney Insider, It's a Dog's Life with Bill Farmer, One Day at Disney, Marvel's Hero Project and Pixar In Real Life.

[Dukefrukem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EI40a-Fc1k&feature=emb_title

[Philip J. Fry]

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Not gonna lie. I'll probably watch the crap outta this.

[Wryan]

Jesus Christ.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-uIQDRS4a8

[Idioteque Stalker]

Is Hamilton on Disney+ a movie?

[Dukefrukem]

Is Hamilton on Disney+ a movie?

It's a Broadway play filmed and put it on Disney+

[Idioteque Stalker]

It's a Broadway play filmed and put it on Disney+

So it's not a movie then?

I know I'm repeatedly asking inane questions, but I'm just curious how it's being categorized.

[Dukefrukem]

So it's not a movie then?

I know I'm repeatedly asking inane questions, but I'm just curious how it's being categorized.

I don't know what you're definition of a movie is here. It's filmed literally on stage with an audience.

There are elements filmed of what appears to be rehearsal runs and closeups to give the appearance of multiple camera angles. It has a running time of 2 hours and 40 minutes.

But it's not by the standard definition, a film.

[Idioteque Stalker]

I don't know what you're definition of a movie is here. It's filmed literally on stage with an audience.

There are elements filmed of what appears to be rehearsal runs and closeups to give the appearance of multiple camera angles. It has a running time of 2 hours and 40 minutes.

But it's not by the standard definition, a film.

Ah, I see. So I suppose it's ineligible for Oscar consideration, for instance. Metacritic has it categorized under "movie"--I guess that's simply because this is the first time a theater recording has been so popular.

[Lazlo]

Is Hamilton on Disney+ a movie?

Yes it's a movie, but I wouldn't say it's a narrative feature. I'd say it's a documentary, along the lines of a concert film like Stop Making Sense. But, I say this only because it was intended to play in movie theaters. Otherwise it'd be a TV special.

The Academy has disqualified it because apparently in their documentary rules there's something that prohibits a straight-forward documentation of a live performance without some sort of alteration or outside element included.

I wouldn't have thought there was any consideration of any of the actors being nominated or the screenplay, etc. But I was surprised to see it disqualified from documentary (and Best Picture) consideration.

[Dukefrukem]

That doesn't mean it disqualifies it from the Matchies though. :)

[Lazlo]

That doesn't mean it disqualifies it from the Matchies though. :)

As a documentary or something that could earn acting and writing awards? I'd argue for its consideration as a doc for sure.

[[ETM]]

It was filmed over three separate performances, one of which was without the audience, just for the closeups. So, I don't know... They do keep calling it "Hamilfilm" colloquially.

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[Dukefrukem]

So Hamilton gets their three F words sensored, but X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST Keeps F-Bomb And Hugh Jackman's Butt.

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Ivan Drago]

It's gonna be hard for me to separate that from Ana Lily Amirpour's film.

[DFA1979]

So Hamilton gets their three F words sensored, but X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST Keeps F-Bomb And Hugh Jackman's Butt.

Hugh Jackman's ass is never to be censored, I guess.

[Dukefrukem]

MULAN Confirmed For Disney+ Release On September 4th...For $29.99

[Mal]

I’ll pay to rent it. Been wanting to see it since it was announced. Pandemic time means perspective for me, and I’m alive, not spending much on gas, makeup, etc. and I still have a job. $30 ain’t too much for me.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm hoping this is their test bed and they'll consider doing the same for Black Widow.

[Ezee E]

Makes sense for families, but ugh....

[Dukefrukem]

Won't be a 1 time rental. Will remain on Disney+ as long as you subscribe.

But will probably end up on Disney+ eventually but i guess it's nice to know it won't be a 48 hour rental.

[Mal]

That’s good! I share my login with my sister, who I know will definitely watch it.

[Philip J. Fry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcqziqIcJ_g

[DFA1979]

My folks got Disney + so I'm using their's to watch The Mandalorian. I'm on the 6th episode already after a couple of days so I like it a lot. However I feel that I am watching mostly for Baby Yoda and the gunfights.

[[ETM]]

Everyone is.

[Ezee E]

My folks got Disney + so I'm using their's to watch The Mandalorian. I'm on the 6th episode already after a couple of days so I like it a lot. However I feel that I am watching mostly for Baby Yoda and the gunfights.

Liked it more than any 7-9 movie though!

[DFA1979]

I haven't seen the TROS yet. I'm a fan of 7 and 8 though.

[Dukefrukem]

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Good. Get the Alien and Die Hard franchise on there stat.

[Skitch]

Fuckin' A!

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Dukefrukem]

October 30th

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[Ezee E]

When and how the heck did they film all this?

[Lazlo]

When and how the heck did they film all this?

From what I've gathered, they were well on their way to being done (or even all the way done) with their original batch of filming before the pandemic shut things down. The balance was/is being shot with small crews on those LED stages they've been using. Seems like lots of production that takes place on stages/studio lots has ramped back up in LA.

[Dukefrukem]

Also keep in mind they film everything in this cool futuristic room with minimal crew.

https://d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net/wp/wp-content/images/mandalorian-stagecraft-photo1-768x551.jpg

[Ezee E]

I think I'd still be amazed that it was that fast even without a pandemic. Granted, the episodes are probably 25-45 mins, but still...

[Mal]

I’ll pay to rent it. Been wanting to see it since it was announced. Pandemic time means perspective for me, and I’m alive, not spending much on gas, makeup, etc. and I still have a job. $30 ain’t too much for me.

I lied. As soon as they announced the stream date of December 4th, I decided against the $30. Plus I’ve got a hell of a lot of movies on streaming otherwise that I want to see first.

[Dukefrukem]

Not the Disney cash grab they were hoping for but this is a lot more than I thought they would get.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nearly-onethird-of-us-households-purchased-mulan-on-disney-for-30-fee-data-221410961.html

Mulan has reportedly grossed $261 million domestically via Disney+, and if that's correct, it's ahead of Tenet's $207 million domestic haul. (which is also higher than I think I was expecting).

[Mal]

207 is Tenet’s worldwide haul
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1442940417/weekend/

[Dukefrukem]

ah well even better for Disney+ then. Still crossing my fingers for a Black Widow Disney+ release.

[Irish]

Not the Disney cash grab they were hoping for but this is a lot more than I thought they would get.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nearly-onethird-of-us-households-purchased-mulan-on-disney-for-30-fee-data-221410961.html

Mulan has reportedly grossed $261 million domestically via Disney+, and if that's correct, it's ahead of Tenet's $207 million domestic haul. (which is also higher than I think I was expecting).

Fly-by-night marketing companies always claim they have viewership numbers, but they're always full of shit.

And the author here made up her own metrics to arrive at this imagined Disney "windfall," pulling total viewership numbers out of her ass. (Besides which, $261MM would be an absolute disaster for a movie with an estimated budget of $200MM.)

[Dukefrukem]

Besides which, $261MM would be an absolute disaster for a movie with an estimated budget of $200MM.)

Under normal circumstances, I agree.

[Ezee E]

If it's $261M on Disney+ without theater exhibition, and considering everything Covid, that's pretty amazing, since it's been... two weeks?

[Irish]

They sold the movie at a premium, though, so even the fabricated box office isn't impressive. $260MM at their price point is an audience of 8 million.

Network TV shows such as "NCIS" pull better audience numbers every week. "Game of Thrones" and "Walking Dead" habitually attract twice as many.

For another comparison, "Troll's World Tour," which debuted last spring, had an audience of around 5 million over the same time period.

[Dukefrukem]

newcomer Iman Vellani to star in its Disney+ series Ms Marvel - looks like a perfect fit.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/articles/banners/178815.jpg

[megladon8]

Very cool. Super young, too, so she can grow up with the role.

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[Dukefrukem]

Bummer.

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/wandavision.jpg

Jan. 15, 2021

[DFA1979]

That show looks pretty good.

[Dukefrukem]

Nearly 87 million subscribers and some big announcements to investors this week. Disney is putting all their eggs into steaming.

I expect a price hike soon.

https://deadline.com/2020/12/disney-plus-86-million-global-subscribers-streaming-investor-day-1234653897/

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Skitch]

Updates...

-SW: Rangers of the New Republic, a new original series set withing the timeline of the Mandalorian
-SW: Ahsoka, a new original series starring Rosario Dawson and set within the timeline of the Mandalorian
-SW: Andor, and original series set in the Star Wars universe
-SW: Obi-Wan Kenobi, original series starring Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen set ten years after Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith
-SW: The Bad Batch, all new animated original series from lucasfilm animation
-SW: Visions, an original series of animated short films, celebrates the Star Wars galaxy through the lens of of the worlds best Japanese anime creators
-SW: Lando, a brand new event series about Lando Calrissian
-SW: The Acolyte, Leslye Headland brings a new StarWars series to DisneyPlus. The Acolyte is a mystery-thriller that will take viewers into a galaxy of shadowy secrets and emerging dark-side powers in the final days of the High Republic era.
-SW: A Droid Story, Lucasfilm Animation is teaming up with Lucasfilm’s visual effects team, Industrial Light & Magic, to develop a special StarWars adventure film. This epic journey will introduce us to a new hero guided by R2-D2 and C-3PO.
-Willow, an Original Series from Lucasfilm starring Warwick Davis, with pilot directed by Jon Chu
-A brand-new Star Wars feature with acclaimed filmmaker TaikaWaititi is in development.
-SW: Rogue Squadron, Patty Jenkins directing

[transmogrifier]

That is too much Star Wars, to be honest.

[Dukefrukem]

That is too much Star Wars, to be honest.

I was thinking the same thing. And here we all though 5 movies over 6 years was too much.

[Philip J. Fry]

Yup.

[Skitch]

That is too much Star Wars, to be honest.

...not for meeeeeeeeee.......

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Philip J. Fry]

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*Not live-action.

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Philip J. Fry]

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[Philip J. Fry]

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A Zootopia series? Now I can roll with that.

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[transmogrifier]

...not for meeeeeeeeee.......

Here is all the Star Wars product I have consumed in my life to date:

1. The original trilogy
2. The two Ewok movies
3. The prequel trilogy
4. The Disney trilogy
5. Rogue One and Solo

No books, TV, comics, whatever. I do not feel impoverished. :) But I don't begrudge you your obsession.

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Skitch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sbQS8y0i6w

[Skitch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLv7oKE-r9E

[Skitch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hSujHUEB48

[Skitch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1fVn2yBGwQ

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[transmogrifier]

That's entirely too much Marvel stuff, in my opinion.

[Skitch]

That's entirely too much Marvel stuff, in my opinion.

Do you have a Kanopy account? You should have a Kanopy account.

[transmogrifier]

Do you have a Kanopy account? You should have a Kanopy account.

Isn't that a US thing? I live in a country with a functioning government.....

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[Skitch]

Isn't that a US thing? I live in a country with a functioning government.....

[/boomroasted]

It is a US library thing, but I wonder if you couldn't access it? All you need is a library card, and I'd be willing to risk the prison sentence to falsify a library application. Dig around and see if your functioning government allows you to access such a site.

[transmogrifier]

I feel as if I'm being lured into a crime for nefarious purposes. I'm in!

[DFA1979]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1fVn2yBGwQ

Looks solid. Also I want to see the WandaVision show too. Not sure if I care about the others.

[Dukefrukem]

Nearly 87 million subscribers and some big announcements to investors this week. Disney is putting all their eggs into steaming.

I expect a price hike soon.

https://deadline.com/2020/12/disney-plus-86-million-global-subscribers-streaming-investor-day-1234653897/

hahahah; i just posted this today

https://deadline.com/2020/12/disney-plus-price-streaming-dollars-a-month-disney-investor-day-1234654578/

[[ETM]]

This is like a dystopian nightmare. The official Disney Twitter account tweets from today would be a cynical article from just a few years ago.

[transmogrifier]

What I want to know is how do people find the time to watch all of these things? Like, where does working, eating, sleeping fit in?

[[ETM]]

I think we've reached the point of "absolutely can't watch everything". No matter if you're a Marvel fan, SW fan, it's just too much of everything.
I mean - if you liked the dullest character from Rogue One, here's a WHOLE SERIES! Knock yourself out. I know I don't have any interest in it. Perhaps that's how it should be, I don't know.

[Dukefrukem]

;630298']I think we've reached the point of "absolutely can't watch everything". No matter if you're a Marvel fan, SW fan, it's just too much of everything.
I mean - if you liked the dullest character from Rogue One, here's a WHOLE SERIES! Knock yourself out. I know I don't have any interest in it. Perhaps that's how it should be, I don't know.

This is my take on it. I find it very unappealing to be bombarded with content like this.

Look, I'm all for 3-4 Marvel movies a year. But now we are getting something like Marvel 5-10 times a year. And these aren't 2 hour blockbuster movies. They're 6-8 hours long series (unless they pull a Mandalorian and make each episode 32 minutes). The excitement is totally gone.

[Dukefrukem]

Bonkers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo9gM_NWMAEiYRp?format=jpg&name=large

[Dukefrukem]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo9gM_LXYAU3JEN?format=jpg&name=large

[Dukefrukem]

Trans some news might be good for you (the bottom one)?

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[Morris Schæffer]

Warwick Davis returns as Willow?! :D

Who was asking for that?

[Morris Schæffer]

Well I'm more interested in the Marvel shows than the SW ones. Those three trailers look promising.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Chip N' Dale: Rescue Rangers might be cool.

[Ivan Drago]

Of all the projects that were announced yesterday, only Children of Blood and Bone, Star Wars: Visions (Star Wars getting the anime treatment? Sold!), Lightyear, What If and Iwaju pique my interest. Marvel and Star Wars are fun, but Disney and all its brands don't appeal to me.

[Skitch]

I was surprised by the Marvel lineup. Lot of items I've never even heard of. I'm no comic book guru by any stretch but at least I've usually heard of the characters. I think I could swing either way on such characters. Maybe I'll really love it since I'm so unfamiliar with them. Maybe I'll be meh on it for same reason. Who knows. I'll watch em lol

[transmogrifier]

Marvel/Star Wars/Live-Action Remakes

Did Disney announce anything original?

[transmogrifier]

Trans some news might be good for you (the bottom one)?


I'm all good with Samberg and Schaffer, but it's not exactly Hot Rod 2.

[Lazlo]

Marvel/Star Wars/Live-Action Remakes

Did Disney announce anything original?

Pixar - Luca, Turning Red
Disney Animation Studios - Encanto

[transmogrifier]

Pixar - Luca, Turning Red
Disney Animation Studios - Encanto

.... that's something, I guess. But I wonder, does Disney make live-action originals anymore?

[Lazlo]

.... that's something, I guess. But I wonder, does Disney make live-action originals anymore?

Yeah, they have some on Disney+. This came out today, seems very classical Disney true story sports stuff along the lines of Remember the Titans or The Rookie, but without a big star.

Some friends of mine shot all the football stuff, which is cool, though I doubt I'll watch the movie.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0j8O2swT5o&ab_channel=WaltDisneyStudios

[Dukefrukem]

What's an example of an original Disney movie? Like Flight of the Navigator? Pirates of the Caribbean? I hear they are making a Jungle Cruise movie? lulz.

[Lazlo]

What's an example of an original Disney movie? Like Flight of the Navigator? Pirates of the Caribbean? I hear they are making a Jungle Cruise movie? lulz.

https://letterboxd.com/gabeberk/list/disney-live-action/

Almost anything on this list that isn't a live action remake of an animated movie.

[Mal]

Jungle Cruise, more like Jungle Snooze!

The obscene amount of things announced makes me eager for one inevitable thing- hearing what projects get cancelled.

[Dukefrukem]

Yeh that's what we need from Disney. More movies like a wrinkle in time..

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Dukefrukem]

This is new too. More Marvel. What is sounds like to me is some kind of off-shoot area where they can dump one-off episodes to fill in the gaps that may or may not be worthy of telling a whole series story.


The first two episodes of Marvel Studios: Legends, featuring Wanda and Vision, premiere on January 8, 2021, only on Disney+.

https://terrigen-cdn-dev.marvel.com/content/prod/1x/legends_logo_1x1_v1.jpg

https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/marvel-studios-legends-new-series-disney-plus

[Dukefrukem]

Rumors are swirling that Disney is rebooting Firefly for Disney+

[Philip J. Fry]

Rumors are swirling that Disney is rebooting Firefly for Disney+
I'm listening.

[Skitch]

Gimme three shows set in the universe, why not

[Philip J. Fry]

Gimme three shows set in the universe, why not
I'd rather have that than more Star Wars.

[Dukefrukem]

I'd rather have that than more Star Wars.

Even if it's a PG version with no original cast and no Inara?

[Philip J. Fry]

Yeah, kinda.

[Morris Schæffer]

I went and did it. I'm now a proud Disney + subscriber. Too much stuff coming out, like all the Marvel shows.

And Skitch, Meg, The Black Hole is on there in HD. ;)

[Skitch]

I went and did it. I'm now a proud Disney + subscriber. Too much stuff coming out, like all the Marvel shows.

And Skitch, Meg, The Black Hole is on there in HD. ;)

Sweet. I watched it last year on Vudu.

[Dukefrukem]

WandaVision tonight

[Skitch]

Watching now...

[Skitch]

Episode one was amusing. I have a feeling this could be headed somewhere quite dark by the end of the season. Thats no spoiler in any way, just me trying to Batman where this could possibly go.

[Morris Schæffer]

Now that I've tried Mandalorian season 2 episode 1, which has huge explosions and Mandalorian on worm action, it is super dissapointing how muted the Dolby digital 5.1 is, with scant little surround activity and a crushing Lack of bass. Fair enough, it is a streaming service, but Netflix seems to do it better on that front. The HDR Dolby Vision video is equally muted, especially during indoor scenes. It's not bad of course and depends on what one is used to. I have a LG OLED of 65 inch and I've seen eye popping 4k discs, and what Disney+ serves up seems sub-par. Purely based on what little I've seen so far. But other Reports are online also. So still happy with Disney+ but that they advertise DD 5.1, Dolby vision and UHD on actual content has a somewhat nasty ring to it.

[Skitch]

I'm not really complaining here, but I havent seen any streaming that comes close to a bluray. From the opening Universal theme of a bluray its instantly noticeable that physical is better in sight and sound.

And that's not even 4k! I'm not even there yet.

[Morris Schæffer]

And Skitch, Meg, The Black Hole is on there in HD. ;)

Looks like the bluray version. Image is solid, lightyears beyond what we used to have. And super Nice this has got the overture since it was missing from earlier versions of the blu-ray, or to be more precise, Hidden from users.

What's super weird but cool is that the black hole has more bass and more pronounced surround activity than Mandalorian. Lol.

[Dukefrukem]

OKay. The Pixar Short Lava had me in tears.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh4dTLJ9q9o&ab_channel=DisneyMusicVEVO

[Spun Lepton]

Goddamnit Duke ...

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Peng]

https://youtu.be/IWBsDaFWyTE

[Skitch]

That looks AWESOME

[DFA1979]

OKay. The Pixar Short Lava had me in tears.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh4dTLJ9q9o&ab_channel=DisneyMusicVEVO

Um...volcano love? Ok...

[DFA1979]

That looks AWESOME

I agree. The starring contest part made me chuckle.

[Philip J. Fry]

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[Dukefrukem]

Pretty much confirmed coming to Disney+


Disney’s CEO Bob Chapek says the release pattern of Black Widow will be a “last-minute” decision, a sentiment that won’t reassure movie theater owners or others rooting for a Covid-19 rebound.

https://deadline.com/2021/03/black-widow-marvel-movie-theater-run-disney-plus-streaming-ceo-bob-chapek-1234716822/

[DFA1979]

While I want to see Black Widow on the big screen it's unlikely to happen currently.