A Top 10 Challenge

[Spinal]

Here are the rules. You must create a list of your ten favorite films. However, none of the following films are eligible:

1) You may not use any films that were nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture ).

2) You may not use any films that were nominated for Best Foreign Film at the Oscars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Foreign _Language_Film).

3) You may not use any Palme d'Or (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palme_d%27Or) nominees. (Nominees and winners in other categories are OK.)

4) You may not use any movie in the IMDb top 250 (https://www.imdb.com/chart/top?ref_=nv_mv_250).

5) You may not use any movie that has appeared on any of the following AFI lists:
100 Years ... 100 Movies (https://www.afi.com/100years/movies.aspx)
100 Years ... 100 Laughs (https://www.afi.com/100years/laughs.aspx)
100 Years ... 100 Thrills (https://www.afi.com/100years/thrills.aspx)
100 Years ... 100 Passions (https://www.afi.com/100years/passions.aspx)
Greatest Movie Musicals (https://www.afi.com/100years/musicals.aspx)
100 Years ... 100 Cheers (https://www.afi.com/100years/cheers.aspx)
100 Years ... 100 Movies - 10th Anniversary Edition (https://www.afi.com/100years/movies10.aspx)
(Mentions on other lists ok.)

What's left?

I have a theory that what is left over will be revealing. We'll see if that turns out to be the case.

[Skitch]

You evil bastard! :p

[TGM]

Frozen
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Independence Day
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
Spider-Man 3
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
(500) Days of Summer
I Am Legend
The Neon Demon
Sucker Punch

[Skitch]

I think my list meets requirements.

Akira
The Ninth Configuration
Conan The Barbarian
Primer
The Ninth Gate
Bad Lieutenant
Akira Kurasawa's Dreams
Pi
Pistol Opera
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring

Bonus:

Eyes Wide Shut
Brick
Lost Highway
A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints

[Irish]

Great idea. Very evil. I've been thinking about my list for 10 minutes. Skitch's list inspired me and I think I have a way out of Spinal's trap!

One suggestion: Add BAFTA, Toronto, Venice, and Berlin to the restrictions otherwise the challenge will be a cakewalk for guys like baby_doll :D

[Spinal]

I ended up with:

The Vanishing
A Zed and Two Noughts
The Holy Mountain
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
Eraserhead
Winter Light
Brazil
Muriel's Wedding
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Ikiru

Not sure how some of these slipped by. Might have to refine the parameters. I like Irish's suggestions.

[Irish]

If you really want to be mean, you could exclude anything on the Library of Congress' National Film Registry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Film_Registry

Although, that might make it too hard.

[Dukefrukem]

This is impossible.

[Dukefrukem]

1.The Killing 1956
2. Rope 1948
3. Akira 1988
4.The Devil’s Backbone 2001
5.Sabotage 1936
6.The Cabin in the Woods 2012
7.The Game 1997
8. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
9.The ’Burbs 1989
10.Upstream Color

[Rico]

This feels like homework.

[baby doll]

3) You may not use any Palme d'Or (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palme_d%27Or) nominees. (Nominees and winners in other categories are OK.)I'm going to assume you mean Palme d'Or winners as there are no nominees; any film in competition is eligible for the top prize.

My picks:

Les Vampires (Louis Feuillade, 1915)
The Docks of New York (Josef von Sternberg, 1928)
Sisters of the Gion (Mizoguchi Kenji, 1936)
Late Spring (Ozu Yasujiro, 1949)
Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966)
Red Psalm (Miklós Jancsó, 1972)
City of Sadness (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1989)
The Apple (Samira Makhmalbaf, 1998)
Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)

It took me about two minutes to make this list.

[transmogrifier]

There is no way for me to do this without going through all those lists, and that ain't happening. So here is a random Top 10 list of stuff that probably isn't on them, but who knows?

1. La Haine
2. A Midnight Clear
3. Les Miserables (1995)
4. Battle Royale
5. Oldboy
6. Smoke
7. 49th Parallel
8. The Emperor's New Groove
9. Lost Highway
10. Memento Mori

[Spinal]

Take it up with IMDb. They refer to the films in competition as nominees.

[baby doll]

Just American films:

Broken Blossoms (D.W. Griffith, 1919)
Foolish Wives (Erich von Stroheim, 1922)
Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932)
Letter From an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)
Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959)
One, Two, Three! (Billy Wilder, 1961)
Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1977)
Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984)
Dead Man (Jim Jarmusch, 1995)
Mulholland Dr. (David Lynch, 2001)

[Spinal]

Just American films:

Broken Blossoms (D.W. Griffith, 1919)
Foolish Wives (Erich von Stroheim, 1922)
Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932)
Letter From an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)
Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959)
One, Two, Three! (Billy Wilder, 1961)
Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1977)
Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984)
Dead Man (Jim Jarmusch, 1995)
Mulholland Dr. (David Lynch, 2001)

Mulholland Dr. was in competition at Cannes.

[baby doll]

Take it up with IMDb. They refer to the films in competition as nominees.My original list, with Cannes competition films removed:

Les Vampires (Louis Feuillade, 1915)
The Docks of New York (Josef von Sternberg, 1928)
Sisters of the Gion (Mizoguchi Kenji, 1936)
Late Spring (Ozu Yasujiro, 1949)
Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966)
Zorns Lemma (Hollis Frampton, 1970)
City of Sadness (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1989)
The Apple (Samira Makhmalbaf, 1998)
Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)

I've retained the Makhmalbaf and Sembène films as they were in Un Certain Regard rather than the main competition, and therefore not eligible for the Palme d'Or.

[baby doll]

Mulholland Dr. was in competition at Cannes.

Revised:

Broken Blossoms (D.W. Griffith, 1919)
Foolish Wives (Erich von Stroheim, 1922)
Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932)
Letter From an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)
Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959)
One, Two, Three! (Billy Wilder, 1961)
Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1977)
Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984)
Basic Instinct (Paul Verhoeven, 1992)
I'm Not There. (Todd Haynes, 2007)

[baby doll]

Since 2010:

Mysteries of Lisbon (Raùl Ruiz, 2010)
Hors Satan (Bruno Dumont, 2011)
Modest Reception (Mani Haghighi, 2012)
Tabu (Miguel Gomes, 2012)
Our Sunhi (Hong Sangsoo, 2013)
Force Majeure (Ruben Östlund, 2014)
The Forbidden Room (Evan Johnson/Guy Maddin, 2015)
Hermia & Helena (MatÃ*as Piñeiro, 2016)
The Woman Who Left (Lav Diaz, 2016)
Western (Valeska Griesbach, 2017)

[Irish]

1. My Darling Clementine
2. Two Lane Blacktop
3. Hard Boiled
4. The Naked Spur
5. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
6. Ghost in the Shell ('95)
7. The Big Clock
8. The Housemaid ('60)
9. Repo Man
10. The Last Unicorn

I had "Alphaville" on there but TIL it won Berlin. Anyway, thanks to Spinal. This was fun!

[baby doll]

East Asian films:

A Page of Madness (Kinugasa Teinosuke, 1926)
Wife! Be Like a Rose! (Naruse Mikio, 1935)
Osaka Elegy (Mizoguchi Kenji, 1936)
Spring in a Small Town (Fu Mei, 1948)
Early Summer (Ozu Yasujiro, 1951)
Death by Hanging (Oshima Nagisa, 1968)
Taipei Story (Edward Yang, 1985)
Ruan Lingyu (Stanley Kwan, 1992)
Platform (Jia Zhangke, 2000)
Here, Then (Mao Mao, 2012)

[Spinal]

New challenge (for baby doll only)

Make a top 10 list from films that meet at least one of the following criteria:


Made over $100 million at the domestic box office
Won a People's Choice or MTV Movie Award (any category)
Appeared on Richard Roeper's top 10 list of the year's best films

[Irish]

LOL.

The Roeper thing is just cruel. :thumbsup:

[Mysterious Dude]

1. Breathless (1960)
2. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)
3. Napoleon (1927)
4. Badlands (1973)
5. A Woman Under the Influence (1974)
6. Germany Year Zero (1948)
7. Testament (1983)
8. Children of Men (2006)
9. Satyricon (1969)
10. Broken Blossoms (1919)

I'm shocked that Breathless wasn't at Cannes. And that Children of Men isn't on the IMDB top 100.

[baby doll]

New challenge (for baby doll only)

Make a top 10 list from films that meet at least one of the following criteria:


Appeared on Richard Roeper's top 10 list of the year's best films
Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
Wonder Boys (Curtis Hanson, 2000)
You Can Count on Me (Kenneth Lonergan, 2000)
In the Bedroom (Todd Field, 2001)
Mulholland Dr. (David Lynch, 2001)
Shallow Hal (Bobby and Peter Farrelly, 2001)
Y tu mamá también (Alfonso Cuarón, 2001)
25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
Elephant (Gus Van Sant, 2003)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)

[Peng]

I could cheat and list my top 10 Thai films without Joe films, but that’s no fun. Here are what I whittle down from my top 100:

1. Be With You (2004)
2. The Breakfast Club (1985)
3. Cloud Atlas (2012)
4. It’s Such a Beautiful Day (2012)
5. Contact (1997)
6. Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (1986)
7. King Kong (2005)
8. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)
9. Fan Chan (2003)
10. Eyes Without a Face (1960)

[Skitch]

New challenge (for baby doll
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Must spread rep and all that.

[Dukefrukem]

Oof, Elephant - a movie that no one ever re-watches.

[baby doll]

Oof, Elephant - a movie that no one ever re-watches.I did.

[TGM]

I've also rewatched that one. >.>

[Ezee E]

-Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
-Children of Men
-Dumb & Dumber
-Eyes Wide Shut
-Ferris Bueller's Day Off
-Game of Death Aguirre, Wrath of God
-Kill Bill Vol. 2
-Lady From Shanghai
-Panic Room
-Umberto D The Fly

EDITED

[Skitch]

-Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
-Children of Men
-Dumb & Dumber
-Eyes Wide Shut
-Ferris Bueller's Day Off
-Game of Death
-Kill Bill Vol. 2
-Lady From Shanghai
-Panic Room
-Umberto D

Man, Eyes Wide Shut was so close to making my list. Kudos for Panic Room.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Based off my top 100 from a number of years ago.

02. Dawn of the Dead (George Romero, 1978)
07. Baraka (Ron Fricke, 1992)
14. The Haunting (Robert Wise, 1963)
15. Jason and the Argonauts (Don Chaffey, 1963)
16. Evil Dead II (Sam Raimi, 1987)
18. Monty Python's Life of Brian (Terry Jones, 1979)
23. Nosferatu (F. W. Murnau, 1922)
25. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Steven Spielberg, 1977)
26. The Road Warrior (George Miller, 1981)
27. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Werner Herzog, 1972)

Primer, Steamboat Bill Jr., and The Fly would probably be the next ones up (or might even supplant the top ten).

[Skitch]

Imdb top 250 eliminates half your list. That's the tough one to work around.

[Ezee E]

Ooh, the Fly would make my top ten. Probably Aguirre too. Can't believe that wasn't a top 250.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Ooh, the Fly would make my top ten. Probably Aguirre too. Can't believe that wasn't a top 250.

I can't believe how un-awarded Werner Herzog is. The mind is boggled.

[Irish]

Skimming through the Top 250 it seemed like a lot of of it was (a) recent and (b) commercial. Most of the outliers are stuff you'd see the first semester at film school. (The whole list skews toward a young, male audience obsessed with dead, male auteurs.)

I was kinda surprised that "The Road Warrior" wasn't on there, or any of the early "Superman" or "Batman" films. But then I thought, why would they be?

[Mr. McGibblets]

Starting with the last top-list that I made and eliminating films that don't fit:


Park Row (top 10)
The Long Goodbye (top 10)
Sanjuro (top 10)
Hot Fuzz (top 10)
Ocean's Twelve (top 10)
Sweet Smell of Success (top 20)
Children of Paradise (top 20)
Aguirre, The Wrath of God (top 20)
Kind Hearts and Coronets (top 30)
Holiday (1938) (top 30)

[Spinal]

Maybe another added parameter could be that it can't be a Criterion Collection film.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Maybe another added parameter could be that it can't be a Criterion Collection film.

Jesus, keep adding the damn restrictions until we're all left with Leprechaun 4 and Captain Corelli's Mandolin.

[baby doll]

Maybe another added parameter could be that it can't be a Criterion Collection film. Les Vampires (Louis Feuillade, 1915)
Spies (Fritz Lang, 1928)
Earth (Aleksandr Dovzhenko, 1930)
Letter From an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)
Rio Bravo (Howard Hawks, 1959)
Teorema (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1968)
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (Robert Altman, 1971)
City of Sadness (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1989)
The Apple (Samira Makhmalbaf, 1998)
Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)

[Gizmo]

Kept it inside my top 100

1. Let the Right One In
2. Closer
3. Magnolia
4. Across the Universe
5. The War Zone
6. The Royal Tennebaums
7. Delicatessen
8. The Others
9. The Last Temptation of Christ
10. Chaplin

[Ezee E]

Wow, I guess I just assumed Magnolia would be in the IMDB Top 250.

[MadMan]

This feels like homework.

I agree.

[Spinal]

Without Criterions:

A Zed and Two Noughts
The Holy Mountain
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
Muriel's Wedding
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Once
Kirikou and the Sorceress
Boys Don't Cry
Heavenly Creatures
Punishment Park


Now we're getting somewhere. All was looking for was a formula that would strip away a lot of the films that are so ubiquitous that they cover up your true film watching personality. If I told you that 2001: A Space Odyssey is the greatest movie of all-time, you might agree. But that doesn't tell you much about me. If you looked at the list above, I don't know, you might notice that I like films with an unconventional musical aspect (Once, Muriel's Wedding, Hedwig and the Angry Inch), films with theatrically artistic elements (the Greenaway films, Holy Mountain) or films in which a cultural outsider battles mainstream society (Boys Don't Cry, Punishment Park, Heavenly Creatures). It was an experiment. Thanks for participating.

[Ezee E]

-Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
-Children of Men
-Dumb & Dumber
-Eyes Wide Shut
-Ferris Bueller's Day Off
-Game of Death Aguirre, Wrath of God
-Kill Bill Vol. 2
-Lady From Shanghai
-Panic Room
-Umberto D The Fly

EDITED

Yeah, I see what Spinal's getting at with this removal. And I don't think any of these are Criterion. MAYBE Panic Room?

[Dukefrukem]

No. The only two Fincher films on Criteron are The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and the Game.

[baby doll]

New challenge (for baby doll only)

Make a top 10 list from films that meet at least one of the following criteria:


Made over $100 million at the domestic box office
Not adjusted for inflation:

Total Recall (Paul Verhoeven, 1990)
Basic Instinct (Paul Verhoeven, 1992)
Wayne's World (Penelope Spheeris, 1992)
Speed (Jan de Bont, 1994)
My Best Friend's Wedding (P.J. Hogan, 1997)
There's Something About Mary (Peter and Bobby Farrelly, 1998)
Chicken Run (Nick Park/Peter Lord, 2000)
The Hangover (Todd Phillips, 2009)
Magic Mike (Steven Sodberbergh, 2012)
Wreck-It Ralph (Rich Moore, 2013)

[Mr. McGibblets]

No Criterions:


Park Row (top 10)
The Long Goodbye (top 10)
Hot Fuzz (top 10)
Ocean's Twelve (top 10)
Aguirre, The Wrath of God (top 20)
Holiday (1938) (top 30)
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (top 30)
The Impostors (1998) (top 30)
Trading Places (top 40)
Clue (top 40)


I don't really think Aguirre should count either, so throw in They All Laughed at #10. These are almost all comedies at this point.