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Idioteque Stalker
10-19-2017, 02:53 AM
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Idioteque Stalker
10-19-2017, 03:15 AM
This was pretty good. For whatever reason it reminded me of Lucrecia Martel's La Cienaga, except the polar opposite. Instead of people lounging around aimlessly with a sense of dread, it was rather people lounging around aimlessly with a sense of eroticism. I ultimately liked this aspect of it--the leisurely pace certainly helped to create a unique and vital tone, but also caused it to lose its footing at points, resulting in a movie that felt a little bit longer than its runtime.

Assuming we're to the point in which a gay movie is not controversial, I'll say this: it's the perfect Sundance movie. I mean that mainly as an insult, even though I did like the movie over all. It's extraordinarily pretty, but has a few blurry musical montages at which cynical viewers may roll their eyes. It's well acted, but there's at least one grand-stand-y monologue (Stuhlbarg's) that cries "for your consideration" in a way that some might find off-putting. And while the setting and characters mainly feel real, the burgeoning romance at times felt pretty phony. But what do I know.

Peng
12-09-2017, 06:13 PM
“Don’t make yourself feel nothing so as not to feel anything. What a waste.” And the totality of first love experience is rendered such as to have us feel almost everything -- the summer's heat, flies hovering around meals, cool breeze on the bike, sudden cold splashes when one first swims -- all set against the impossibly gorgeous backdrop of sun-drenched Italian countryside. The details all so vivid, the shots elongated, the pacing in no hurry for any real plot or heavy drama, as if the environment is one that will be soaked and entrenched in memory for years to come. And for Elio (in an astounding performance from Timothée Chalamet that blends intellectual confidence and late-teenage gangly awkwardness so affectingly well), this context only helps confirm the all-consuming force of his infatuation as a transformative one. He truly loses himself in another, and it loops back to him as a permanent growth, all his precocious talents and knowledge finally having an experience of identity to match.

The tender sensuality of Elio's and Oliver's slow-burn attraction, in which the chemistry between Chalamet and Armie Hammer is conveyed though gradual accumulation of furtive gestures and casual glances (as well as the help of music, literature, and archaeology as their bridge towards each other), is followed by a pure rush of intoxicating, burned-bright passion. But what makes those two sections parts of a romance to remember is their capper, which underlines the film with melancholy and maturity, best encapsulated by Michael Stuhlbarg's magnificently heartfelt and tender monologue. His words help frame Elio's story in the larger context of a life, in all its memories and experiences. Remember everything. 9/10

Weems
12-09-2017, 08:39 PM
I really wanted to like this, as I'm a big fan of I Am Love, but I ultimately found this nowhere near as swoon-worthy, so I agree with much of what Idiotheque wrote. I haven't read the book, but I feel like the script didn't do enough to develop Elio and Oliver and make their relationship convincing or moving, so I experienced the film at a remove for the whole runtime.

Peng
12-13-2017, 12:19 PM
It's the film of the year to beat for me (can only see my score going up over time), but I can see how others can see it that way. Only want to protest at it being called a "Sundance" film though. So many expected this to premier at Cannes or Venice, and were very surprised to see it land there. Then at Sundance it stood out, favorably (as noted in a lot of critic reviews), because it doesn't feel like the kind of Sundance premiers at all. Every film festival name can be used as descriptor, both for good and bad connotations, but this feels much more "arthouse" in the vein of Cannes than being much of a "Sundance" one.

Watashi
12-22-2017, 11:05 PM
Floored by this. First film of 2017 that I openly wept at (Stuhlberg's monologue).

This has finally opened up in more theaters, so I hope more get to see it.

Ivan Drago
12-23-2017, 05:45 AM
I got to watch a screener copy of this earlier this week, and I echo the sentiments of most here. This was tremendous. I especially loved how it used the aesthetics of classic European arthouse cinema to tell its story.

I'll expand more on my thoughts in a review for the website I write for when it comes to town (not for another few weeks...bah), but between....that scene and the pie eating scene in A Ghost Story, it's been an interesting year for food on film.

Spinal
12-28-2017, 04:26 PM
Saw this yesterday, and after sitting on it for a day, I'm still at a loss to understand why this has been so highly regarded critically. The final shot leading into the credits is nice. The performances are fine. I like the music. But I had a difficult time investing in the central relationship because, well, one of them is clearly a man and one of them is clearly a boy. I'm not sure how else to say it. It's kind of creepy. And even creepier that the film has the boy's father deliver a testimonial on behalf of their relationship. After seeing the film, I read that Armie Hammer's character is supposed to be 24. I will just say that this is not how it reads on screen. And since buying into the relationship is critical for the film to have any sort of effect, this was a pretty empty experience for me. I can only guess that the film's popularity has something to do with it being a thoroughly explored love story between two men in which neither of them meets a violent fate. That's all well and good, but on an artistic level, this film can't touch something like Brokeback Mountain or Moonlight.

Ezee E
12-31-2017, 01:50 AM
This is... fine? Cool "Italian trip" vacation and all, but as Spinal says, the casting of Hammer is misplaced. It feels weird, and Hammer acknowledges it as such, but goes along with it anyway.

There's nothing about the movie that makes me interested in revisiting it. However, it DID make me revisit The Psychedelics song, and that's now in my Apple Music catalog.

Henry Gale
12-31-2017, 03:54 AM
Pretty much far and away my favourite of the year now, replacing the harder to feel comfortable with (and especially tiresome to defend) mother!, which previously toppled above my other favourites of the year in large part because no matter what how much love I felt about it or could even concede about it to others on the negative side, it just felt so amazingly alien and outside of anything else made this year that it still felt vividly exceptional.

But now Call Me By Your Name is the one that, even for its more hypothetical straightforwardness, is the one I most can't quite know how to describe. It's the film that just made me feel the most the whole way though, completely gripped by it in the most cinematically sumptuous and indelible of ways, not knowing how to even really assess it like I would most other movies, just wrapped up in it as more of an increasingly emotionally, transportive daydream.

And it is the kind of work I'd dream about existing that never really seems to, or would even romanticize about movies I'd watched when I was younger, only to revisit them and realize that they weren't as they'd had remained in my memory, leaving me concerned if either they were never as wondrous as I remembered, or fear that I had instead changed considerably myself, fearful that I'd lost something in me to feel that way about films, either ones similar to it or otherwise, in the past or still unseen in the future.

But in this present, in these final days of this year, I can absolutely say I can't imagine having had a more beautiful experience with it. And like much of what the film ends up being about, I'm beyond glad I had this time with it, because it's of a rare sort. Unlike Elio though, I have the reality-breaking gift of being able to return to it all.

And yeah, jeeeezus christ that Stuhlbarg scene. I feel like I never have to cry at another movie scene again it got me so good.

Ezee E
01-12-2018, 05:32 AM
Any thoughts on why traffic noise of cars was much louder and prominent in this movie compared to others? It seems to be on purpose. I just couldn't get why.

Ezee E
01-12-2018, 05:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrSYIrA-knE

Love this piece of music that was in the movie too.

TGM
01-14-2018, 01:21 AM
This was awful. :\

Mal
01-21-2018, 09:26 PM
awfully good! Chalamet carries the whole film and he is phenomenal.

MadMan
02-15-2018, 07:41 AM
Gorgeous and captivating, although the last act drags on a bit too much. I loved this film's score, and it might be the first film with Hammer that actually used him really well since The Social Network. I liked him in The Man From UNCLE, despite that bad accent, sure, but this movie reflects better on his handsome features.

MadMan
02-15-2018, 07:42 AM
Also Stuhlbarg keeps doing work. I prefer him in this film over his part in The Shape of Water.

Rico
03-04-2018, 03:46 AM
And even creepier that the film has the boy's father deliver a testimonial on behalf of their relationship.
This one scene elevated the film for me from "Ho-hum" to "Oh, that was interesting". Especially the part where he talks about the things that hold us back.

Morris Schæffer
03-05-2018, 11:28 AM
I loved this. Having been to Northern Italy numerous times throughout my life I must say this definitely elevated the film even more for me. It felt like being on a holiday, the atmosphere was spot on, enveloping.

If I have a reservation it is perhaps that the Oliver character wasn't as layered, textured as the Elio character. The American seemed to treat this as more of a fling than it was for Elio, which is possibly why it came across as somewhat creepy to Spinal. Like perhaps he was taking advantage of a situation, although I admit I would be reaching here. Nevertheless, I didn't think Oliver's yearning for Elio came across as sincere as Elio's yearning for Oliver. Or perhaps he hid it well.

Ezee E
03-05-2018, 05:03 PM
I've come to the feeling that Oliver just played Elio this whole time.

MadMan
03-05-2018, 06:13 PM
I loved that they showed the piano scene at the Oscars. It was that clip that convinced me to go see the film in the first place.

Also using Psychedelic Furs is cheating. I love that band.

Morris Schæffer
03-09-2018, 07:03 AM
Sequel is coming

http://www.slashfilm.com/call-me-by-your-name-sequel-details/

Pop Trash
03-10-2018, 07:32 PM
Sequel is coming

http://www.slashfilm.com/call-me-by-your-name-sequel-details/

I hope they call it I Know What You Did Last Summer.

Peng
03-11-2018, 01:32 AM
Also hoping they use the poster version that someone uploaded to letterboxd.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXuwXbfXUAAlfv4.jpg

Wryan
03-12-2018, 02:51 PM
Finally got to see this. Quite liked it overall, but I didn't feel shattered by it or anything like that.

It's an idyll in parts, but it feels true and warm and languorous in its details. I didn't feel a creepiness factor--in part because of the year, in part because of the cultural setting, in part because so many relationships between two men have indeed been marked by a gap (shades of Greece?), and, finally, because Oliver showed quite a lot of apprehension at almost every turn. He didn't want to cause any trouble for or damage to someone he knew was young and new at this. From a few lines, it's fairly clear he also didn't come from nearly so open a situation as Elio's family presents. I think Oliver acquit himself very well, to the degree that I think all young men wandering in this direction would benefit from such a figure in their lives (in addition to bracingly frank and accepting parents), to hold their hands cautiously and guardedly, but lovingly, rather than exploit their naïveté, which is probably more common all things considered. I believe Oliver felt as Elio did but didn't have the courage to see it through. (I presume the marriage spoken of at the end is to a woman.) The movie captures the thickly dreamy sort of confusion in oscillating between lust and "baser" physical gratification and instead exploring something deeper and more keenly felt--the kind of connection that darkens the whispy outlines of your character and your sense of self. On the subject of sequels, I'm not sure I need to see a Before trilogy arise with these two as they continue to work on the something between them. I just feel thankful that they allowed me a summer glimpse of something private and intense and important for both of them, and where they go from there isn't really my business.

Peng
03-16-2018, 02:12 PM
I'm usually not one to rewatch films with commentary, but between snippets I've seen from this and The Last Jedi, 2017 films might come with special features too good to ignore. (Sorry about the gigantic pictures; I saw them on twitter and there isn't a smaller version)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYFkLspWsAAENdb.jpg
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MadMan
03-17-2018, 09:50 AM
Those shots were stunning, btw. Also that commentary is funny.

Henry Gale
03-17-2018, 05:45 PM
I'm usually not one to rewatch films with commentary, but between snippets I've seen from this and The Last Jedi, 2017 films might come with special features too good to ignore.

Everything comes back around! Jordan Peele's Get Out was the first commentary I listened to in at least a year and it's super strong too! (As well as the deleted scenes and his discussion of those.) Also The Disaster Artist release that just came out is sure to be crazy as its commentary is by the two Francos with Greg Sestero and Tommy Wiseau.

Naturally, as CMBYN is my favourite film of last year, I'm gonna need to own and listen to this soon.

dreamdead
05-17-2018, 07:19 PM
This wasn't quite as special for me as others found it. There's a meandering quality to this one that I expect makes it extraordinary for those who are 100% on its wavelength, but there were two or three instances where I waited for a scene to end the film only for it to continue. Guadagnino has perhaps his most successful direction here--even though I prefer the bombastic nature of I Am Love over this one--and the piano score works.

If anything, I felt that Armie Hammer's character needed to be doing some more scholarly to justify the time in Italy; I realize that research is perhaps the least cinematic thing to be doing, but the film never truly established Hammer's credentials as a graduate student since there's so little of his professional work embedded in his time there. There's enough of an instance to establish the profession, but not in any depth or actuality. For a film that otherwise so clearly cares about moments, it was odd that there wasn't more of one on this front.

Wryan
05-18-2018, 02:58 PM
I think there's enough of it in there, especially when it's certainly not the focus of the story. The discussion about the origins of the word apricot, the visit to the statue coming up out of the water, his various talk about papers printed off down in the square, etc., are meant to hint at that side. Plus they get to include snippets like that with the Perlmans and Elio around to also serve as character moments or push the relationships along at the same time.

StuSmallz
05-19-2018, 04:31 AM
This wasn't quite as special for me as others found it. There's a meandering quality to this one that I expect makes it extraordinary for those who are 100% on its wavelength, but there were two or three instances where I waited for a scene to end the film only for it to continue. Guadagnino has perhaps his most successful direction here--even though I prefer the bombastic nature of I Am Love over this one--and the piano score works.I feel similarly; it was fine for the most part, but was still a somewhat overly low-key experience for the most part, and it didn't really get emotional until the final 15 minutes, which were enough kicked the film up a notch for me (although I still didn't like it as much as I hoped to). Then again, it's a lot like the other, more "slice-of-life" Best Picture noms from last year (like it, Phantom Thread or Lady Bird) in the sense that I "just" liked them, and didn't love any of 'em, while the more fantastical noms like Dunkirk, The Shape Of Water, or even the rather divisive Three Billboards, I felt more fondly towards all of them, but I guess that just goes to show you, there's no predicting when and if you'll line up personally with overall critical consensuses, y'know?

Peng
05-19-2018, 07:03 AM
Obviously I love it, but I'm still wrapping my mind around Phantom Thread being described as "slice-of-life".

StuSmallz
05-19-2018, 04:43 PM
Obviously I love it, but I'm still wrapping my mind around Phantom Thread being described as "slice-of-life".When compared to Dunkirk, Three Billboards, or Shape Of Water​? Absolutely, as far as I'm concerned.

Peng
02-05-2020, 04:32 PM
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Watched it a third time. The film climbs up in three viewings from great (9/10), added admiration after reading the book (9.5/10), to finally full-on adoration as one of my all-time favourites now (10/10).

My second watch (one month after the first) was focused on how much impact the it had on me in seeing Ivory's powerful adaptation choices for the third act. The distance of two years later though finally boosts the film into its own thing. It retains that magical first impression and the lingering raw power added after reading the book, but now stands unique and tall as a cinematic snow globe of pure summer bliss.

The film has that rare quality of an absolute favourite by being very familiar, yet every time you return to it you keep finding new fresh details to enrich the experience further. This time I'm wrecked by the tiniest movements and looks in Oliver's increasingly halting manner throughout the film, and by Mrs. Pearlman's amusedly knowing smiles and glances towards a blossoming relationship, which are nevertheless completely loving, always ready to be there anytime her son might need her. The languorous pleasure of a perfect holiday with the haunting power of a deep remembrance; maybe the most bittersweet hangout film ever made.