MC Consensus: Italian Style

[Spinal]

Submit your TEN favorite Italian films and in about a week or so I will give you a top TWENTY. Films should have Italy listed as a country of origin in IMDb. Hopefully, I won't have to make a ruling on this and it will be self-policing. But the purpose of the thread is to specifically address films that are from Italy.

The point system is as follows

1st Place- 10 points
2nd Place - 8 points
3rd Place - 7 points
4th Place - 6 points
5th Place - 5 points
6th Place - 4.5 points
7th Place - 4 points
8th Place - 3.5 points
9th Place - 3 points
10th Place - 2.5 points

(Point system is weighted to give your top film a boost and to minimize the discrepancy between the films in the bottom half of your list.)

There will be no restrictions on short films. A list must have ten films to be eligible. If you list more than ten films, I will assume that the top ten films are the ones you want to receive points. If you do not list your films 1-10, I will assign the points from the top on down.

If you decide to edit your ballot, please make a new post indicating the changes. I will give at least 24 hours warning before tallying votes.

If, for some reason, you would like to like to submit your ballot via private message, I will accept those as well. However, your ballot will be revealed after the final results are posted.

You may begin now.

[Spinal]

1. The Bicycle Thief
2. Satyricon
3. The Battle of Algiers
4. L'Avventura
5. Umberto D
6. Teorema
7. Juliet of the Spirits
8. Cinema Paradiso
9. 8 1/2
10. Once Upon a Time in the West

[D_Davis]

1. Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Dellamorte Dellamore
3. Cinema Paradisio

....and I need to see more Italian cinema.

I've seen a TON of Italian horror, and pretty much hate it all.

[Ezee E]

Off the top of my head:

1. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
2. Umberto D
3. Once Upon a Time in the West
4. Amarcord
5. Bicycle Thieves
6. Best of Youth
7. Suspiria
8. 8 1/2 (really should watch this and La Dolce Vita again)
9. The Conformist (does this count?)
10. Gomorrah

They've really gone downhill in quality since the 80s.

[Spinal]

....and I need to see more Italian cinema.

If we start to have trouble with 10-film ballots, I may consider reducing the minimum to 5. But I'm going to hold off for now.

[Spinal]

9. The Conformist (does this count?)


Yes.

[Stay Puft]

1. La Dolce Vita (Federico Fellini)
2. The Bicycle Thief (Vittorio De Sica)
3. Nights of Cabiria (Federico Fellini)
4. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Sergio Leone)
5. The Leopard (Luchino Visconti)
6. Blowup (Michelangelo Antonioni)
7. Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone)
8. 8 1/2 (Federico Fellini)
9. The Conformist (Bernardo Bertolucci)
10. Suspiria (Dario Argento)

I love Fellini, obviously. Had to resist the temptation to include even more from him.

[D_Davis]

I need to review my Italian western and sleaze to round out my list.

I'm sure there are some nunsploitation movies worthy of a top 10.

[Lazlo]

1. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
2. The Battle of Algiers
3. The Best of Youth
4. I'm Not Scared
5. Life is Beautiful
6. L'Eclisse
7. Once Upon a Time in the West
8. A Fistful of Dollars
9. For a Few Dollars More
10. Gomorra

[baby doll]

If we're counting The Battle of Algiers, what about Germany Year Zero?

Germany Year Zero (Roberto Rossellini, 1948)
Umberto D. (Vittorio De Sica, 1952)
Senso (Luchino Visconti, 1954)
L'eclisse (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1962)
8 1/2 (Federico Fellini, 1963)
Seduced and Abandoned (Pietro Germi, 1964)
The Battle of Algiers (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1966)
Teorema (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1968)
The Spider's Stratagem (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1970)
Vincere (Marco Bellocchio, 2009)

[Spinal]

If we're counting The Battle of Algiers, what about Germany Year Zero?


Yes, that would be acceptable.

[baby doll]

Germany Year Zero (Roberto Rossellini, 1948)
Umberto D. (Vittorio De Sica, 1952)
Senso (Luchino Visconti, 1954)
L'eclisse (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1962)
8 1/2 (Federico Fellini, 1963)
Seduced and Abandoned (Pietro Germi, 1964)
The Battle of Algiers (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1966)
Teorema (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1968)
The Spider's Stratagem (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1970)
Vincere (Marco Bellocchio, 2009)Edited.

[Skitch]

I will warn you now, my list is going to be weird due to seeing more Italian trash than classic.

[Mysterious Dude]

1. Bicycle Thieves (1948)
2. Shoeshine (1946)
3. The Four Days of Naples (1962)
4. Satyricon (1969)
5. 8½ (1963)
6. Umberto D. (1952)
7. Don Giovanni (1979)
8. Mamma Roma (1962)
9. Nights of Cabiria (1957)
10. I'm Not Scared (2003)

[Grouchy]

1. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
2. 8 & 1/2
3. Amarcord
4. Once Upon a Time in the West
5. Suspiria
6. La Dolce Vita
7. The Conformist
8. Il Gatopardo
9. Dellamorte Dellamore
10. Miracle in Milan

11. An Average Little Man
12. La Grande Bellezza
13. Deep Red
14. Juliet of the Spirits
15. Nights of Cabiria

Couldn't leave it at ten, there are way too many great ones.

[Spinal]

Watching Shoeshine tonight.

[Gizmo]

Haven't seen much

1. Bicycle Thieves
2. Cinema Paradiso
3. Life is Beautiful
4. La Dolce Vita
5. 8 1/2

[Dukefrukem]

1. Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Suspiria
3. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

[Peng]

1. Cinema Paradiso
2. Once Upon a Time in the West
3. La Dolce Vita
4. Amarcord
5. Umberto D.
6. Il Postino
7. La Strada
8. Suspiria
9. Bicycle Thieves
10. Life is Beautiful

[Spinal]

1. The Bicycle Thief
2. Satyricon
3. The Battle of Algiers
4. L'Avventura
5. Umberto D
6. Teorema
7. Juliet of the Spirits
8. Cinema Paradiso
9. 8 1/2
10. Once Upon a Time in the West

All right, De Sica, you got me again.

1. The Bicycle Thief
2. Satyricon
3. The Battle of Algiers
4. L'Avventura
5. Umberto D
6. Teorema
7. Juliet of the Spirits
8. Cinema Paradiso
9. Shoeshine
10. 8 1/2

[Spinal]

I know picking on IMDb user comments is shooting fish in a barrel, but this is pretty amazing:


Vittorio Di Sica's Shoeshine (1946) is a very well thought out, and well executed film.

But I'm just sick of seeing Continental European WWII films and post-WWII films that are filled with despair, hopelessness, and an eradication of meaning in life. I know that the people on Continental Europe suffered a lot during WWII, but across decades, and across national boundaries, EVERY WWII film, and post-WWII film that I've seen from Continental filmmakers is just filled with despair, hopelessness, and an eradication of meaning in life. Even as late as 1992, Lars von Trier's Europa is yet another really negative and downer film about post-WWII. I mean SOMEONE on the Continent must have emerged from WWII with a a relatively happy story. Yet, you wouldn't think so if you watched as many of these negative, downer, depressing WWII films from Europe as I have. It's really a distinct genre: WWII films and post-WWII films from Continental Europe that are filled with despair, hopelessness, and an eradication of meaning in life.

[Ivan Drago]

1. 8 1/2
2. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
3. Nights of Cabiria
4. The Great Beauty
5. Once Upon A Time In The West
6. Bicycle Thieves
7. Umberto D.
8. The Best of Youth
9. Amarcord

[Melville]

Mediterranean culture really doesn't jive with me. Only the top 5 are favorites of mine.

1. The Gospel According to Matthew
2. The Battle of Algiers
3. L'Eclisse
4. 8 1/2
5. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
6. Juliet of the Spirits
7. Journey to Italy
8. Rome, Open City
9. Rocco and His Brothers
10. Nights of Cabiria

[Spinal]

This one might be a top 10 instead of a top 20. Any more interest?

[dreamdead]

This one might be a top 10 instead of a top 20. Any more interest?

Was out of town last week. I can get a list up tomorrow if that's doable.

[Spinal]

Yeah, no rush.

[dreamdead]

So apparently I'm weak in Italian cinema. There's not much I've seen after the 50s explosion, and I'm missing stuff like Senso.

1. L'Avventura
2. L'Eclisse
3. The Gospel According to Matthew
4. 8 ½
5. The Bicycle Thief
6. The Battle of Algiers
7. The Conformist
8. Once Upon a Time in the West
9. Umberto D.
10. Deep Red

[Dead & Messed Up]

This one might be a top 10 instead of a top 20. Any more interest?

I'll try and watch a couple in the following week, if we can hold out that long. Need to up my Italian game.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Italian films for Netflixers:

The Best of Youth
The Bicycle Thief
The Conformist
Cinema Paradiso
Gomorrah
I Am Love
I'm Not Scared
Malena

[Spinal]

Thanks for participating. I am still working out how to balance these out so that the results are statistically significant. My concern with lowering the ballot minimum is that it will simply give another advantage to films that don't really need it. For example, it seems likely that if a voter has only seen a small amount of noteworthy Japanese films, they are likely to be the Kurosawa and Miyazaki films that form most people's initial exploration. So, in the future, there may be top 20s, there may be top 10s. I plan on grouping certain regions together to make it a little easier. As with the last thread, I may open up a 'bonus points' round to flesh things out.

[Yxklyx]

too late?

1. Nights of Cabiria - Fellini
2. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - Leone
3. L'Eclisse - Antonioni
4. 8 1/2 - Fellini
5. Romeo and Juliet - Zeffirelli
6. Swept Away by an Unusual Destiny in the Blue Sea of August - Wertmüller
7. Il Grido - Antonioni
8. Rocco and His Brothers - Visconti
9. La Strada - Fellini
10. Umberto D. - De Sica

[Spinal]

too late?



Nope, I'm taking this one at a leisurely pace.

[baby doll]

Nope, I'm taking this one at a leisurely pace.How Italian.

[Spinal]

#10

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I want a family, children, a husband to chat with in the evenings over coffee, maybe, and to make love with now and then, because when you must, you must.

Amarcord

Director: Federico Fellini

Year: 1973

A series of comedic and nostalgic vignettes set in a 1930s Italian coastal town.

Won Best Foreign Language Film at the Academy Awards. Nominated for Best Director and Best Original Screenplay at a separate ceremony.
Nominated for Best Foreign Film at the Golden Globes.
Won Best Foreign Language Film from the National Board of Review.
Won Best Film and Best Director at the New York Film Critics Circle Awards.

The posters featuring Gary Cooper promote two fictional films 'La valle dell'amore' ('The Valley of Love') and 'Il sole del deserto' ('The Desert Sun').

"Amarcord is as full of tales as Scherherazade, some romantic, some slapstick, some elegiacal, some bawdy, some as mysterious as the unexpected sight of a peacock flying through a light snowfall. It's a film of exhilarating beauty." - Vincent Canby, The New York Times, 1974

[Spinal]

#9

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You are the first woman on the first day of creation. You are mother, sister, lover, friend, angel, devil, earth, home.

La Dolce Vita

Director: Federico Fellini

Year: 1960

A series of stories following a week in the life of a philandering paparazzo journalist living in Rome.

Won Best Costume Design, Black-and-White at the Academy Awards. Also nominated for Best Director, Best Original Screenplay and Best Art Direction, Black-and-White.
Won the Palme d'Or at Cannes.
Nominated for Best Film at the BAFTA Awards.
Won Best Foreign Language Film at the New York Film Critics Circle Awards.

When shooting the famous Fontana di Trevi scene, Fellini complained that the water in the fountain looked dirty. A representative of Scandinavian Airlines System present at the shooting was able to supply the film team with some of the airline's green sea dye marker (for use in case of an emergency landing at sea) to color the water.

"Movies do not change, but their viewers do. When I saw La Dolce Vita in 1960, I was an adolescent for whom 'the sweet life' represented everything I dreamed of: sin, exotic European glamour, the weary romance of the cynical newspaperman. When I saw it again, around 1970, I was living in a version of Marcello's world; Chicago's North Avenue was not the Via Veneto, but at 3 a.m. the denizens were just as colorful, and I was about Marcello's age. When I saw the movie around 1980, Marcello was the same age, but I was 10 years older, had stopped drinking, and saw him not as a role model but as a victim, condemned to an endless search for happiness that could never be found, not that way. By 1991, when I analyzed the film a frame at a time at the University of Colorado, Marcello seemed younger still, and while I had once admired and then criticized him, now I pitied and loved him. And when I saw the movie right after Mastroianni died, I thought that Fellini and Marcello had taken a moment of discovery and made it immortal. There may be no such thing as the sweet life. But it is necessary to find that out for yourself." - Roger Ebert

[Spinal]

#8

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Madonna, Madonna, help me to change my life. Bestow your grace on me too. Make me change my life.

Nights of Cabiria

Director: Federico Fellini

Year: 1957

A waifish prostitute wanders the streets of Rome looking for true love but finds only heartbreak.

Won the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film.
Won Best Actress (Giulietta Masina) at Cannes.
Nominated for Best Film and Best Foreign Actress (Masina) at the BAFTA Awards.

During the editing of this film, editor Leo Cattozzo developed the CIR self-perforating adhesive tape splicer which made him rich and for which he won an Academy Award in 1989.

"There is more grace and courage in the famous image of Giulietta Masina smiling through her tears in Federico Fellini's 1957 Nights of Cabiria ... than there is in all the fire-breathing blockbusters Hollywood has to offer." - Janet Maslin, The New York Times

[Spinal]

I promise the next film will be by a different director.

[Spinal]

#7

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It's hard to start a revolution. Even harder to continue it. And hardest of all to win it.

The Battle of Algiers

Director: Gillo Pontecorvo

Year: 1966

In the 1950s, fear and violence escalate as the people of Algiers fight for independence from the French government.

Nominated for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film, Best Director and Best Original Screenplay at two separate ceremonies.
Won the Golden Lion at the Venice Film Festival.
Won the UN Award at the BAFTA Awards.

The film is based in part on the memoirs of Yacef Saadi, who wrote them in prison after serving as a leader for the historical NLF.

"So accurate is The Battle of Algiers that it has been shown within terrorist groups and military and police agencies as a training exercise. It was even screened at the Pentagon by the Directorate for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict in 2004, apparently to inform strategy in Iraq. Whether the Department of Defence concluded this was what they should be doing, or what they shouldn't, has not been disclosed." - Alex von Tunzelmann, The Guardian

[Spinal]

#6

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Why do we ask so many questions? Two people shouldn't know each other too well if they want to fall in love.

L'Eclisse

Director: Michelangelo Antonioni

Year: 1962

A young woman meets a vital young man, but their love affair is doomed because of the man's materialistic nature.

Won the Jury Special Prize at Cannes.

Some US exhibitors were so perplexed by the non-verbal ending that they simply chopped off the last 7 minutes.

"The implication is that, behind every story, there’s a place and an absence, a mystery and a profound uncertainty, waiting like a vampire at every moment to emerge and take over, to stop the story dead in its tracks. And if we combine this place and absence, this mystery and uncertainty into a single, irreducible entity, what we have is the modern world itself—the place where all of us live, and which most stories are designed to protect us from." - Jonathan Rosenbaum

[Spinal]

#5

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How can you trust a man that wears both a belt and suspenders? Man can't even trust his own pants.

Once Upon a Time in the West

Director: Sergio Leone

Year: 1968

The story of a mysterious stranger with a harmonica who joins forces with a notorious desperado to protect a beautiful widow from a ruthless assassin working for the railroad.

Named to the National Film Registry in 2009.

Al Mulock, who played one of the three gunmen in the opening sequence, committed suicide by jumping from his hotel window in full costume after a day's shooting. Production manager Claudio Mancini and screenwriter Mickey Knox, who were sitting in a room in the hotel, witnessed Mulock's body pass by their window. Knox recalled in an interview that while Mancini put Mulock in his car to drive him to the hospital, Sergio Leone said to Mancini, "Get the costume! We need the costume!"

"As much as anyone, with the possible exception of Jimmy Stewart, Henry Fonda was the face of decency in American cinema–a gentle, blue-eyed beanpole who exuded a quiet authority that was never imperious, perhaps because his plainspoken drawl identified him as a man of the people. The Grapes Of Wrath, The Lady Eve, and Young Mr. Lincoln paint him as an unusually sturdy and even powerful figure, but with a trace of naïveté, unsullied by knowledge of corruption in the world. All of which helps make his shocking appearance in Sergio Leone's 1968 masterpiece Once Upon A Time In The West one of the great introductions in film history." - Scott Tobias, The A.V. Club

[Spinal]

#4

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What's the matter, Mr. Umberto? ... I'm tired ... Of her? ... It's a little of everything.


Umberto D.

Director: Vittorio De Sica

Year: 1952

A elderly man and his dog struggle to survive on his government pension in Rome.

Nominated for the Academy Award for Best Writing, Motion Picture Story.
Won Best Foreign Language Film at the New York Film Critics Circle Awards.

Ingmar Bergman cited Umberto D. as his favorite film.

"Certainly, given the film’s attendance on the affectionate relationship between an aged pensioner and his gregarious mutt, Umberto D. lays itself wide open to allegations of rank sentimentality that were often leveled against the neorealist movement as a whole. This may even hold true in part, especially with regard to the film’s unabashed tearjerker finale (significantly, the one scene De Sica later regretted including in the final cut). Nevertheless, Umberto D. contains some of the most astringent observations on social irresponsibility this side of Roberto Rossellini’s brutal Germany Year Zero." - Budd Wilkins, Slant Magazine

[Spinal]

#3

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Why should I kill myself worrying when I'll end up just as dead?


Bicycle Thieves

Director: Vittorio De Sica

Year: 1948

A man and his son search for a stolen bicycle vital for his job.

Won an Honorary Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film. Also nominated for Best Writing, Screenplay.
Won the Golden Globe for Best Foreign Film.
Won the BAFTA Award for Best Film.
Named Best Film and Best Director by the National Board of Review.
Won Best Foreign Language Film at the New York Film Critics Circle Awards.

Sergio Leone worked as an assistant for Vittorio De Sica during the filming of this movie. He also has a short appearance as one of the priests that are standing next to Bruno and Antonio during the rainstorm.

"Great movie, huh? So refreshing to see something like this after all these... cop movies and, you know, things we do. Maybe we'll do a remake of this!" - Griffin Mill (Tim Robbins) in The Player

[Spinal]

#2

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When did I go wrong? I really have nothing to say, but I want to say it all the same.


8½

Director: Federico Fellini

Year: 1963

A harried movie director retreats into his memories and fantasies.

Won the Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film and Best Costume Design, Black-and-White. Also nominated for Best Director, Best Original Screenplay and Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Black-and-White.
Nominated for Best Film at the BAFTA Awards.
Named Best Foreign Language Film by the National Board of Review.
Won Best Foreign Language Film at the New York Film Critics Circle Awards.

Federico Fellini attached a note to himself below the camera's eyepiece which read, 'Remember, this is a comedy.'

"These days, directors don't worry about how to repeat their last hit, because they know exactly how to do it: Remake the same commercial formulas. A movie like this is like a splash of cold water in the face, a reminder that the movies really can shake us up, if they want to. Ironic, that Fellini's film about artistic bankruptcy seems richer in invention than almost anything else around." - Roger Ebert

[Spinal]

#1

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You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig.


The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Director: Sergio Leone

Year: 1966

A bounty hunting scam joins two men in an uneasy alliance against a third in a race to find a fortune in gold buried in a remote cemetery.

Named "the best-directed film of all time" and "the greatest achievement in the history of cinema" by Quentin Tarantino.

Sad Hill Cemetery was a very-convincing set piece constructed by the pyrotechnic crew and not a real cemetery. Today the site is marked as a local point of interest.

"Of course, Leone's inspiration was Akira Kurosawa's Yojimbo. But merciless as Kurosawa's hero was, he understood his obligation to the samurai code. In Leone's film, Blondie's cynicism and brutality were the common-sense responses to the irrational West. Those responses have become so ingrained that one of the most memorable moments of Raiders of the Lost Ark could have been lifted right out of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: after a mountain-sized swordsman spins his blade around to demonstrate his plan for filleting Indiana Jones, Jones whips out his gun and shoots him. Mr. Eastwood noted that it was his character's lack of honor that enthralled audiences: the Man With No Name, as Blondie was also called, was the first protagonist to shoot first, in violation of the ethical code that had previously governed Westerns." - Elvis Mitchell, The New York Times

[Spinal]

1. The Good The Bad and the Ugly (49)
2. 8 1/2 (45.5)
3. The Bicycle Thief (41)
4. Umberto D. (36)
5. Once Upon a Time in the West (32.5)
6. L’Eclisse (32.5)
7. The Battle of Algiers (31.5)
8. Nights of Cabiria (22.5)
9. La Dolce Vita (21.5)
10. Amarcord (19)

The Gospel According to St. Matthew (17)
L’Avventura (16)

In the event of ties, films with mentions from more total posters are given preference.

[Spinal]

It's really too bad Italy stopped making good movies in 1973. :)

[dreamdead]

The Gospel According to St. Matthew (17)
L’Avventura (16)


Ouch. The two left off hurt, since they're so, so good. I prefer both to anything of Fellini's minus 8 1/2.


It's really too bad Italy stopped making good movies in 1973.

I like to think of it as the inverse of South Korea, where no good films were made until after 1998. (Please note, this is a joke and not my real opinion.)

[Yxklyx]

Is Once Upon a Time in the West really that good? I saw it once and didn't think much of it. For me, Bronson has too limited of a range and Fonda just doesn't make a credible bad guy. I'd be happy to revisit it...

[baby doll]

Is Once Upon a Time in the West really that good? I saw it once and didn't think much of it. For me, Bronson has too limited of a range and Fonda just doesn't make a credible bad guy. I'd be happy to revisit it...I'm not a fan either, but then I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on for about half the picture. That said, I'm not sure Bronson really needed more range to do what's required of him here (staring ominously while playing the harmonica and occasionally shooting people).

[D_Davis]

Is Once Upon a Time in the West really that good? I saw it once and didn't think much of it. For me, Bronson has too limited of a range and Fonda just doesn't make a credible bad guy. I'd be happy to revisit it...

It's incredible. A masterpiece if there ever was one. Also has the greatest opening sequence ever filmed, with some of the best sound design ever recorded.

[Mysterious Dude]

I acquired a harmonica recently. I tried to play the Charles Bronson tune, but I couldn't quite get the third note. I think some other instrument may have been used. Or I have a crappy harmonica.

[D_Davis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B2gKcLkygI

[DavidSeven]

Is Once Upon a Time in the West really that good? I saw it once and didn't think much of it. For me, Bronson has too limited of a range and Fonda just doesn't make a credible bad guy. I'd be happy to revisit it...

Fonda in Once Upon a Time in the West is one of my favorite screen villains ever.

Movie as a whole is Pure Cinema™.