Wolverine

[megladon8]

I loved Bryan Singer's first two installments, and X3 wasn't nearly the bomb it was made out to be by some - though it still wasn't near the quality of the first two films. It suffered from too many characters, too short a length, and little-to-no emotional depth, where there was lots in the other films.

Anyways, I'm excited to see Wolverine. I thought Hugh Jackman did a wonderful job with the character.

USA today posted an article (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-02-13-wolverine_N.htm) containing information and a first look at Jackman as the tituler hero.

Here's the pic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/megladon8/wolverinex-large.jpg


Hugh Jackman has said in interviews that he was going to be bigger (physically) in this film than he's ever been, and judging from that pic it certainly seems to be true.

[Morris Schæffer]

Very interested in this. More so than Iron Man in fact.

[megladon8]

Very interested in this. More so than Iron Man in fact.


Jackman has said there'll be action sequences in it greater than anything in any of the X-Men movies.

Seeing as how he's also the producer, this could very well be him talking the movie up. But still, I'm interested to see what they have in store for us.

I just hope it's still got a strong story, and isn't just Wolverine pummelling through wave-after-wave of enemies for 2 hours.

[Sycophant]

I just hope it's still got a strong story, and isn't just Wolverine pummelling through wave-after-wave of enemies for 2 hours.
Remaking IZO with Marvel universe characters? I'm not sure I'd like it, but I'd certainly be interested.

I might even buy that for a dollar.

[megladon8]

Remaking IZO with Marvel universe characters? I'm not sure I'd like it, but I'd certainly be interested.

I might even buy that for a dollar.


IZO was two hours of solid carnage??

[Sycophant]

IZO was two hours of solid carnage??
Sold existential carnage.

It's amazing. But I don't know if I could ever actually recommend anyone to watch it.

[megladon8]

Sold existential carnage.

It's amazing. But I don't know if I could ever actually recommend anyone to watch it.


I wanted to see it, but kind of avoided it for a while because of lackluster reviews.

I guess I should check it out.

[DavidSeven]

First look? The character has already been in three movies!

[number8]

First look? The character has already been in three movies!

:)

[Dukefrukem]

I want more pictures. Is there an ETA on this film?

[Ezee E]

I want more pictures. Is there an ETA on this film?
I don't think it's even begun filming yet. However, I'm pretty sure '09 summer is a safe bet.

Gavin Hood is directing it if I remember right.

[Watashi]

JoBlo has learned that 30 Days of Night star Danny Huston will play William Stryker in 20th Century Fox's X-Men Origins: Wolverine. He joins Hugh Jackman (Logan/Wolverine) and Liev Schreiber (Victor Creed/Sabretooth) in the "X-Men" spin-off directed by Gavin Hood and coming to theaters on May 1, 2009.

In X2: X-Men United, Brian Cox played an older version of the William Stryker character.

This film leads up to the events of X-Men and tells the story of Wolverine's epically violent and romantic past, his complex relationship with Victor Creed, and the ominous Weapon X program. Along the way, Wolverine encounters many mutants, both familiar and new, including surprise appearances by several legends of the X-Men universe.

Uh, indeed.

[megladon8]

KF already bought his tickets.

[Ivan Drago]

Gavin Hood directing already had me sold. But Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth? AND Teh Huston? My ass won't just be in the theaters, it'll be stuck to it.

[Kurosawa Fan]

:|

[MadMan]

I do want to see a trailer. But the cast has me partly sold already.

[Sycophant]

:|
A-yup.

[Wryan]

"This film leads up to the events of X-Men and tells the story of Wolverine's epically violent and romantic past . . . with Victor Creed."

Well no wonder they are so pissed at each other in the first X-men movie.

Liev Schrieber? Really though?

[Ezee E]

I like Liev Schrieber and all, but he doesn't strike me much as a Sabretooth. He's suppose to be massive. We shall see.

[Dukefrukem]

The newest recruits are Dominic Monaghan and Daniel Henney. According to Variety, Henney will play an agent (AGENT ZERO, no less) from the Weapon X program that is an expert tracker and lethal marksman and Monaghan will play a mysterious mutant from Wolvie's past that can manipulate electricity and energy.

Gossip blog JustJared broke Monaghan yesterday, but they claim he'll be playing Beak/Blackwing, who wouldn't have control of electricity if I remember my minor Marvel characters correctly.

Sounds almost like Monaghan's playing Shocker or Electro to me if the Variety article has the right information, but again... I don't think Shocker or Elecgtro are tied specifically to Wolverine. I always remembered them as being more in Spider-Man's world. Anyone more familiar with the Marvelverse want to bring up other suggestions?

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35717

[DavidSeven]

Monaghan will play a mysterious mutant from Wolvie's past that can manipulate electricity and energy.


Gambit?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Gambit?

That would rock. I've been waiting for him to show up.

[MadMan]

Gambit?I sure hope so. I'm still wondering why the hell he wasn't featured in the third flick (if I remember right-I haven't seen the third X-Men yet though).

[Henry Gale]

I thought it was already confirmed that Taylor Kitsch (Riggins from Friday Night Lights) was playing Gambit.

[DavidSeven]

So, there are two mutants who can manipulate energy? Lame.

[Ezee E]

There's Sunspot who did something similar. There's also Havok, who is Cyclops' brother.

I'm sure there's many more.

[DavidSeven]

There's Sunspot who did something similar. There's also Havok, who is Cyclops' brother.

I'm sure there's many more.

I meant in this movie.

[Ezee E]

I meant in this movie.
Ah.

Well, it'll make for the perfect Energy Hero VS. Energy Villain inevitable fight to the death.

[Grouchy]

If Marvel knows its audience, it's gotta be Gambit. I think every fanboy on the world cried fool when he wasn't featured anywhere in the trilogy.

[Watashi]

Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/733/hughjackmanlievschreibenk7.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6859/hughjackmanlievschreibefg7.jpg

[megladon8]

Some rather spoilerific set photos were leaked today. Let's just say, this movie goes back a long ways...

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2315/50176272br7.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1166/93146417bp2.jpg

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8436/31365068am8.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2073/21917320km9.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1391/69731858qn8.jpg

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2444/30084218ne5.jpg

[Ezee E]

This might be Australia

[Qrazy]

Tsotsi was Ok if a bit forced. This could deliver at least competently.

[number8]

This might be Australia

I thought so too. But if it is Wolverine, they'll probably throw in a Captain America set-up too.

[megladon8]

Is this one being produced by Marvel Studios as well?

I thought they didn't have anything on the slate for 2009...

But yeah...isn't Australia finished filming already?

And I highly doubt that Jackman would have the Wolverine facial hair for a battle scene in Australia...

[Sycophant]

Is this one being produced by Marvel Studios as well?

I thought they didn't have anything on the slate for 2009...Nope. This, Magneto, the new Punisher, and Spider-Man 4 are merely co-productions.

[Dukefrukem]

is Spiderman 4 even confirmed?

[megladon8]

Nope. This, Magneto, the new Punisher, and Spider-Man 4 are merely co-productions.


Ah, all right.

Sorry, I find this whole co-productions and Marvel-only productions thing kind of confusing.

Especially when it says MARVEL in huge letters on the trailers, and it's simply missing that little white line underneath that says "studios".

[Sycophant]

Yeah, it's a little nutty. I'd imagine Fox still has rights to the X-Men franchise though for a little while, same with Columbia and Spider-man. It seems as though Marvel is intending to keep as much of the rest of it in-house as they can, going forward.

[number8]

Ah, all right.

Sorry, I find this whole co-productions and Marvel-only productions thing kind of confusing.

Especially when it says MARVEL in huge letters on the trailers, and it's simply missing that little white line underneath that says "studios".

I don't think they care if John Q. Public knows who produced the movie, just that it's a Marvel movie they like.

[megladon8]

I don't think they care if John Q. Public knows who produced the movie, just that it's a Marvel movie they like.


I'm sure they don't.

I just find it confusing, myself, because I like to follow these things with movies I'm interested in - who's producing for whom, what's expected, etc.

[megladon8]

A new picture...

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4422/wolverineempirepy8.jpg

I like that they're using the more metallic looking claws again.

The last two movies had the claws looking too much like plastic.

[Dukefrukem]

is that a scan?

[megladon8]

The footage from ComicCon in two parts...

Part One. (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m35/lynn138/Comic-Con/?action=view&current=Comicon098.flv)

Part Two. (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m35/lynn138/Comic-Con/?action=view&current=Comicon099.flv)

[Morris Schæffer]

Eh awesome! No?

Although those are the exact screaming fanboys I heard when I saw the first low-res footage of X-Files: I want to Believe. A movie which has turned out to be incredibly mediocre. Apparently.

Btw, how is it that, age-wise, Wolverine looks the same here as in the later X-Men films? Is he not human?

[Winston*]

Btw, how is it that, age-wise, Wolverine looks the same here as in the later X-Men films? Is he not human?

His healing powers slow down his aging process super much. Wolverine's crazy old.

[megladon8]

Yeah, Wolverine's original mutant ability was that he can heal, and this regenerative ability also made him age slower.

In an interview, Jackman said that when writing the script for this movie, they went on the assumption that, by the beginning of the first X-Men movie, Logan was about 100 years old.


I'm not exactly sure - X-Men is a series I never followed too closely - but I seem to remember the claw mutation being a relatively new addition to his story.

I mean, he's always had the metal claws, but I think it was just within the last 10-15 years that they included a back story where even as a child he had claws, though they were made of bone.

It was probably around the time of the "Fatal Attraction" storyline, when Logan had the adamantium ripped out of his body, but his claws remained and were made of bone. I think that's when they used the origin story as an explanation, because Wolverine just wouldn't be the same without some kind of claws.


Anyways, did anyone else find that ComicCon footage fantastic?

I really hope it gets released online in an HD format soon, so it can be seen properly.

But I like the art style they seem to be going with. It looks similar to the X-Men films, but because of the different time setting, they seem to be going for a really neat almost art-deco type retro style.

Looks snazzy.

[Skitch]

Anyways, did anyone else find that ComicCon footage fantastic?



Blown away. I've been worried that this project was gonna be a less than stellar spinoff, ala Electra. Seeing that footage has completely turned me around on Wolfie. I can't wait.

[Dukefrukem]

Although those are the exact screaming fanboys I heard when I saw the first low-res footage of X-Files: I want to Believe. A movie which has turned out to be incredibly mediocre. Apparently.


This is true. Less than mediocre i'd say.

[megladon8]

Is there any word on when that trailer is going to be officially released, so we can watch a non-bootleg version?

[megladon8]

The cover of next month's Empire...

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9716/2352za8.jpg

And a snippit from the article has Jackman saying this about the movie...


There's a scene in the first X-Men movie where Wolverine's introduced in a bar, fighting in a cage, and you felt that he did this every night of his life. If this movie is successful, you should feel that this guy can walk straight off the end of this film and into that bar.

[Watashi]

Saw the trailer for this at work today. I'm not going to lie... it really looked fucking awesome.

Mainly because the trailer used the Sunshine theme.

[Morris Schæffer]

Saw the trailer for this at work today. I'm not going to lie... it really looked fucking awesome.

Mainly because the trailer used the Sunshine theme.

And when do us mere mortals get to see it?:P

[Sxottlan]

And when do us mere mortals get to see it?:P

Something tells me it won't be online until after the weekend. They were wanting X-Men fans to go see TDTESS to help pad out the opening weekend grosses. Heck, they were advertising the trailer along with the movie in the commercials.

Putting it online before then would keep those people at home, although they should stay home anyway. TDTESS was no good.

I did like the trailer. Looks like they had to shoehorn Gambit in a film eventually. Loved the end of it. When asked how he'll kill a difficult opponent, Wolverine: "I'll cut your head off. See if that works."

Would have been funny if they had inserted a title card saying, "From the director of Tsotsi..."

However, as competition the week before Star Trek opens, I'll hope for just a mildly entertaining film that will keep moviegoers wanting to come back the next week for something even better. ;)

[Morris Schæffer]

However, as competition the week before Star Trek opens, I'll hope for just a mildly entertaining film that will keep moviegoers wanting to come back the next week for something even better. ;)

Yeah, same here. I really am rooting bigtime for Star Trek next year!:)

[Watashi]

You do realize Star Trek is going to suck, right?

Have you read the footage descriptions?

[The Mike]

Good trailer. Could have used more Sabretooth, and the Mission Impossible II-esque helicopter shot was a little much.

Still, I'm optimistic.

[number8]

Wats, the trailer is the same as the one we saw at Comic Con, right?

[Watashi]

Wats, the trailer is the same as the one we saw at Comic Con, right?
No. Some shots are the same, but it's structured different.

[Sxottlan]

You do realize Star Trek is going to suck, right?

Oh, I'm so sorry. I hadn't realized you had already passed judgment. :rolleyes:

Actually, hate it now, hate it later. I don't care.

Just don't be so condescending.


Have you read the footage descriptions?

No. Why would I? I'm trying to go in with as fresh a slate as possible.

[Watashi]

No. Why would I? I'm trying to go in with as fresh a slate as possible.

You have the second most posts in the Trek thread and have commented on every single new news. So much for the fresh slate, eh?

And I did have hope for the film.... until I actually read what it's about.

[Saya]

If anyone wants to see a very crappy bootleg version of the trailer, go here:

http://wolverine-trailer.blogspot.com/

[number8]

If anyone wants to see a very crappy bootleg version of the trailer, go here:

http://wolverine-trailer.blogspot.com/

Haha, they censored the "goddamn" that was in the Comic Con trailer.

[Sxottlan]

You have the second most posts in the Trek thread...

How does that equate to knowing all the spoilers out there on the web? Takes a little work, but it's not hard to avoid some things.

[Morris Schæffer]

Pretty epic, but that helicopter bit looks like it may house some potential for laughably bad FX.

[Saya]

Official trailer is here (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51310)

Who is the fat guy in the ring?

[Ezee E]

Official trailer is here (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51310)

Who is the fat guy in the ring?
Haven't watched it, but Blob?

[number8]

Blob, yeah.

[Grouchy]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/Misc%20Stuff/DaleCooperThumbsUpcopy.jpg

SPECIALLY the helicopter shot.

[Watashi]

Outside of the goofy shot of young Logan screaming towards the sky, I really dig this trailer a lot.

[Dukefrukem]

Liev Schreiber is Sabretooth? Did not know that. And that makes the fight scenes in X-men between the two very lame as well as Sabretooth's absence in the other two films.

[Ezee E]

Sadly, I'm going with a meh on this.

And how come nobody's mentioned the Huston?

[Grouchy]

And that makes the fight scenes in X-men between the two very lame
Huh... Why this? Because of the different actors?

I don't exactly like that Sabretooth is so human-looking, though. But we'll see how that works out.

[megladon8]

*drool*

This looks sweet.

[Dukefrukem]

Huh... Why this? Because of the different actors?

I don't exactly like that Sabretooth is so human-looking, though. But we'll see how that works out.

Because there was no mention of their past quarrels. It was pretty tame. The only thing that would seem cool would be when Wolverine recognized Sabertooth's smell when they met for the first time.

[megladon8]

Why do people keep calling that helicopter shot an "M:I:2 shot"?

I haven't seen that movie in quite some time, but I don't remember anyone slingshotting themselves off an exploding motorcycle and onto a helicopter...

[Dukefrukem]

Why do people keep calling that helicopter shot an "M:I:2 shot"?

I haven't seen that movie in quite some time, but I don't remember anyone slingshotting themselves off an exploding motorcycle and onto a helicopter...

Maybe they meant M:I:1 shot? And it had the opposite occurrence?

[D_Davis]

Okay, so, that looks pretty awesome. Looks way better than any of the X-Men movies.

[Morris Schæffer]

Okay, so, that looks pretty awesome. Looks way better than any of the X-Men movies.

The blob looks silly, reminding me of Fat Bastard. And the one-on-one tussles between the various characters, chiefly Creed Vs. Wolfie, look a bit uninspired, in a seen-it-all-before kinda way. And there already was some Wolverine backstory in X2 so I'm not sure how interested I am in that.

[D_Davis]

It looks more exciting than the X films to me. I found the first two to be dreadfully dull for films about a team of ass-kicking super heroes mad at the world (never saw the 3rd). They totally failed to capture the spirit that made the original comics so awesome - at least for me. This looks much better.

Who knows though, could just be a good trailer. But I actually want to see this.

[Qrazy]

X2 was one of the better Superhero films and judging by this trailer I doubt Wolverine will play out on that level.

[Ezee E]

It looks more exciting than the X films to me. I found the first two to be dreadfully dull for films about a team of ass-kicking super heroes mad at the world (never saw the 3rd). They totally failed to capture the spirit that made the original comics so awesome - at least for me. This looks much better.

Who knows though, could just be a good trailer. But I actually want to see this.
X2 has many great scenes, but the Nightcrawler one at the beginning is something that I pictured as the quintessential X-Men movie scene.

Wolverine VS. Sabretooth brings on 8's complaints of the similar superhero vs. another similar one being boring.

[Morris Schæffer]

It looks more exciting than the X films to me. I found the first two to be dreadfully dull for films about a team of ass-kicking super heroes mad at the world (never saw the 3rd). They totally failed to capture the spirit that made the original comics so awesome - at least for me. This looks much better.

I do not know this spirit of the comics that you mentioned, but perhaps it's all for the best (my best?) that a movie version was toned down a bit, grounded in reality. X2 definitely had some asskickery, but I wouldn't want it to go overboard with the action, improbably set pieces and super powers.

[Grouchy]

Because there was no mention of their past quarrels. It was pretty tame. The only thing that would seem cool would be when Wolverine recognized Sabertooth's smell when they met for the first time.
Yeah, I get it now. It's not like it's completely a continuity error, though. If George Lucas was behind these movies he'd dub the appropriate lines in.

[megladon8]

I do not know this spirit of the comics that you mentioned, but perhaps it's all for the best (my best?) that a movie version was toned down a bit, grounded in reality. X2 definitely had some asskickery, but I wouldn't want it to go overboard with the action, improbably set pieces and super powers.


While 8's argument was interesting, it doesn't hold much weight in my opinion, unless you watch action purely for how visually interesting the characters are and completely discount the coherence of the action scene, and how the filming techniques make-or-break the inertia and excitement.

The Matrix had some brilliant fight sequences and action scenes, yet most of them were "one guy with sunglasses vs. another guy with sunglasses".

Similarly many of the greatest action scenes of all time are in classic kung-fu films, where the fight takes place between two guys wearing gi's. The visual juxtaposition doesn't really matter at all - the differences are in their fighting styles, the way the fight is filmed so the viewer gets the best possible experience with the action, and also the characters themselves.

I maintain that an action scene means absolutely nothing other than being "pretty" if you don't care about the characters at all. That's why I loved Iron Man's "Iron Man vs. bigger Iron Man" fight - I loved Tony Stark, and I wanted him to win.

This visual dichotomy works in a still frame, but when it comes to filming exciting action, you need a lot more than just two combatants who look cool together.

And this is why I think the Victor Creed vs. Wolvie fight scenes should (in theory) work very well. Wolverine will be someone we come to sympathize with deeply, and Creed we will hate, hate, HATE if it's done properly. Combine that with their two totally different styles of movement and combat which you can tell right from the trailer, and I think these action scenes could be balls-to-the-wall awesome.

[The Mike]

OK, maybe it's not a M:I 2 shot....it actually reminds me more of the beginning of Goldmember while spoofing M:I 2. :lol:

[number8]

no meg, you're forgetting that almost every great Kung Fu movie fight pits two different fighting styles. It's that difference in movement and poses that, to me, is so visually arresting to watch. In a superhero fight, the equivalent is two different looks and powerset.

[Ezee E]

no meg, you're forgetting that almost every great Kung Fu movie fight pits two different fighting styles. It's that difference in movement and poses that, to me, is so visually arresting to watch. In a superhero fight, the equivalent is two different looks and powerset.
Hence why the Five Deadly Venoms might be my favorite kung-fu film. Five different styles right there.

[megladon8]

no meg, you're forgetting that almost every great Kung Fu movie fight pits two different fighting styles. It's that difference in movement and poses that, to me, is so visually arresting to watch. In a superhero fight, the equivalent is two different looks and powerset.


No I didn't forget that, I mentioned it.

But I still argue that powerset, yes. Looks, no. The villains don't need to look totally different for the action to be exciting - I'd argue that's a pretty shallow way of looking at action scenes.

But yes, I would agree that it certainly makes things more interesting to have two with differnet powers and abilities, and preferrably ones that conflict with each other in order to make the obstacles larger.

[Qrazy]

Well I did like Wolverine versus Lady Deathstrike... but I guess she has boobs.

[DavidSeven]

Why do people keep calling that helicopter shot an "M:I:2 shot"?

Probably because it looks like that impossibly stupid shot in Mission Impossible 2 where Cruise and the other guy jump off their in-motion motorcycles and collide in mid-air. That's the first thought that crossed my mind when I saw it. This is basically a rip off of that Woo shot except about 1,000,000 times more absurdly stupid.

[megladon8]

I'm willing to forgive illogical action scenes if they're coherent and exciting.

[SirNewt]

Outside of the goofy shot of young Logan screaming towards the sky, I really dig this trailer a lot.

Same, I like the trailer. It made me realize how much more potential this has than another X-Men movie.

[Sxottlan]

Probably because it looks like that impossibly stupid shot in Mission Impossible 2 where Cruise and the other guy jump off their in-motion motorcycles and collide in mid-air. That's the first thought that crossed my mind when I saw it. This is basically a rip off of that Woo shot except about 1,000,000 times more absurdly stupid.

So we don't mean the shot in the first M:I where the explosion throws him away from the helicopter?

[Morris Schæffer]

I maintain that an action scene means absolutely nothing other than being "pretty" if you don't care about the characters at all. That's why I loved Iron Man's "Iron Man vs. bigger Iron Man" fight - I loved Tony Stark, and I wanted him to win.

I guess I approach this a little differently. I certainly cared enough about Tony Stark, but not about the antagonist. I guess to me it speaks volumes about the "imposing" nature of a villain when he has to step into an even bigger robot to stand a chance of winning. Yeah, I really didn't like that final tussle. I found it rather indistinct. Jeff Bridges is cool but Stane was rather puny although there are one or two solid scenes of dialogue between the both of them. To put that into perspective, John McClane Vs. Hans Gruber. Now there's an epic showdown! :)

[SirNewt]

I guess I approach this a little differently. I certainly cared enough about Tony Stark, but not about the antagonist. I guess to me it speaks volumes about the "imposing" nature of a villain when he has to step into an even bigger robot to stand a chance of winning. Yeah, I really didn't like that final tussle. I found it rather indistinct. Jeff Bridges is cool but Stane was rather puny although there are one or two solid scenes of dialogue between the both of them. To put that into perspective, John McClane Vs. Hans Gruber. Now there's an epic showdown! :)

Well, that movie didn't really have anywhere else to go. It was one of those damned if you do damned if you don't situations. The movie couldn't just drift off to credits but the movie probably didn't afford the writers a climax either.

[Mal]

Trailer is meh. But the cast ... Jackman, Reynolds, Huston, Schreiber, Henney... pretty much makes me want to orgasm.

[megladon8]

The idea of Ryan Reynolds making anything better is just beyond me.

[The Mike]

The idea of Ryan Reynolds making anything better is just beyond me.

Then you're beyond the idea of awesome! :cool:

[Raiders]

The idea of Ryan Reynolds making anything better is just beyond me.

He's "made better" just about every movie I have seen him in. Very underrated actor.

[megladon8]

He's "made better" just about every movie I have seen him in. Very underrated actor.


Can't say I agree, at all.

He's incredibly annoying.

[number8]

He's "made better" just about every movie I have seen him in. Very underrated actor.

Agreed. He was pretty much the one and only good thing about Blade Trinity.

[The Mike]

Agreed. He was pretty much the one and only good thing about Blade Trinity.

Agreed.

I'd add that he took Van Wilder, with a worst movie of the year-esque plot and script, and made it memorable and....for better or worse....a "franchise". :eek:

[Acapelli]

he's also pretty much the perfect deadpool

[Dead & Messed Up]

Agreed. He was pretty much the one and only good thing about Blade Trinity.

Well, when you have a line like "cock-juggling thundercunt"...

:lol:

[Wryan]

He's "made better" just about every movie I have seen him in. Very underrated actor.

Then keep on not seeing Amityville Horror.

[number8]

Then keep on not seeing Amityville Horror.

That movie would've been worse without him in it.

[Raiders]

Then keep on not seeing Amityville Horror.

I will since the original is among the worst films I have seen. I doubt it's worse because of him, but I don't care to find out.

For the record, I'm also not really referring to Van Wilder, which I have seen only parts, or Blade Trinity of which I have seen nothing.

I am referring to The Nines, where he was just terrific, as well as rom-coms like Definitely, Maybe and Just Friends where his empathetic portrayal and comedic timing, respectively, definitely elevated the material. I have also heard good things about him in Chaos Theory.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I actually watched Definitely, Maybe last night and thought it was a pretty decent film. Reynolds was quite good. So for the time being, I'll have to agree with Raiders.

[Grouchy]

Agreed. He was pretty much the one and only good thing about Blade Trinity.
That's true. The very definition of making a movie better - his funny delivery of shitty jokes was amazing.

[number8]

I forgot about The Nines. He was terrific in that, yes.

[Ezee E]

He needs to grow a beard back.

[Watashi]

To be fair, he was probably the worst part of Smokin' Aces.

[Winston*]

To be fair, he was probably the worst part of Smokin' Aces.

Really? There was an awful lot of awful in Smokin Aces' , seems weird to single him out.

[Ezee E]

Really? There was an awful lot of awful in Smokin Aces' , seems weird to single him out.
I'd go with that ninja kid myself.

[Skitch]

I think the only thing I haven't liked Reynolds in was Van Wilder...but I disliked that movie as a whole.

Other than that, I too, think he is a wildly underrated actor.

[Dukefrukem]

To be fair, he was probably the worst part of Smokin' Aces.

damn it, you beat me to it.

[megladon8]

Usually reshoots are a bad sign, but this actually sounds like really good news. (http://www.cinematical.com/2009/01/17/extensive-wolverine-reshoots-taking-place/)

20th Century Fox is finally getting its act together and letting Gavin Hood realize his original vision of a dark & gritty Wolverine story.

According to last year's reports, Hood was furious when the studio wanted so badly to tone down the darkness of his film, that they actually re-painted sets in bright colours when he wasn't around.

Re-shoots will be fixing this.

[The Mike]

Usually reshoots are a bad sign, but this actually sounds like really good news. (http://www.cinematical.com/2009/01/17/extensive-wolverine-reshoots-taking-place/)

20th Century Fox is finally getting its act together and letting Gavin Hood realize his original vision of a dark & gritty Wolverine story.

According to last year's reports, Hood was furious when the studio wanted so badly to tone down the darkness of his film, that they actually re-painted sets in bright colours when he wasn't around.

Re-shoots will be fixing this.
I don't know why, but this whole section just read as "Fox decided to start spending their Watchmen money" to me. :lol:

[number8]

I don't know why, but this whole section just read as "Fox decided to start spending their Watchmen money" to me. :lol:

Yeh.

"Shit, look at how much clamoolahs that Batman Heath Ledger whatchamajig made! People like dark superoos now, guys! Do we have any of those? Gary, do we have--? What-men? Watchmen? When did we make that? What do you mean Warners -- Look, I don't care, are we releasing that shit or not? Yes? Good. What else? We've got that X-Men, right? Is there another one coming? Great. Can we make that way dark? Like, WAY dark? And serious? ...We did what to it? Well, fuckin' tell them to fix it, then! Jesus, I swear to God, you guys -- Yes, Gary. ASSHOLE. I don't care! Give them money for reshoots, do it in post, just make the fuckin' picture darker than my taint! Can we do that? GARY! How much is Warners paying us for that, what was it, Watchmen? How much for Watchmen? Fantastic. Give it to the X-Men thing. Hey, tell them, you make sure they get the memo. My taint? Darker."

[Ezee E]

"Sir. Can I have a second look at your taint? I'm not sure if it's as dark as Dark Knight or if it's Blade dark."

"Okay, got it!"

[megladon8]

Hugh Jackman sent this note to AICN, letting them know that the shooting they're doing isn't re-shoots, but just stuff they couldn't film 'til now...


Hey Mate- Would you mind posting this? Thank you for your support! HJ

Hey everyone -

It's Hugh Jackman, sending this note from freezing Vancouver. I have read a lot of your online comments regarding the footage that we are currently shooting and I share your passion for the Wolverine character and the movie - I owe it all to you guys!

I wanted to reach out and let you know that due to scheduling conflicts with certain cast members and location/weather considerations, we had to wait until now to shoot a couple of scenes. Please rest assured that WOLVERINE will be badass and hopefully meet all of your expectations. I am stoked by the positive response to the teaser, which clearly reflects the tone and scope of the film. If you like that, we've got much more in store!

In the meantime, here's an exclusive shot of some characters you may recognize ...

Cheers,

Hugh.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2027/wolverineaicnea5.jpg

[Dukefrukem]

very cool

[megladon8]

I like the poster...

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9247/wolverineveraposter1233it5.th. jpg (http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineverapost er1233it5.jpg)

[number8]

Lame.

[Dukefrukem]

why would wolverine hold his claws to his face?

[Watashi]

It looks like the exact same teaser poster from X3.

[Sycophant]

why would wolverine hold his claws to his face?

Because he is posing for a photograph for the movie that he is in.

[Raiders]

why would wolverine hold his claws to his face?

It makes a 'W'.

... oh, and it's a poster.

[Kurosawa Fan]

why would wolverine hold his claws to his face?

To arouse women with a cutting fetish?

[Sycophant]

Dude, this is gonna be about how Wolverine can only feel "alive" by cutting himself so he's going to spend all the movie pressing his blades into the skin of his face.

OMGEE SO DARK AND MATURE!@ DUDUE HARDCORE

[Dukefrukem]

Because he is posing for a photograph for the movie that he is in.

Well that's why it's lame.

[megladon8]

Well that's why it's lame.


JFC, it's a poster! :frustrated:

[Dukefrukem]

JFC, it's a poster! :frustrated:

A poster can't be lame? Jesus is right... I think it's lame.

[megladon8]

A poster can't be lame? Jesus is right... I think it's lame.


No, but the concept that it's a poster seems to elude you.

It's not a shot from the movie with Wolverine holding his claws to his face. It is a poster. To advertise the film.

[Dukefrukem]

No, but the concept that it's a poster seems to elude you.

It's not a shot from the movie with Wolverine holding his claws to his face. It is a poster. To advertise the film.

Don't patronize me. I know what a poster is for. This (http://daw.dyndns.org/images/movies/posters/army%20of%20darkness.jpg) isn't the movie either, but it fucking rules, unlike this wolverine poster.

[megladon8]

Don't patronize me. I know what a poster is for. This (http://daw.dyndns.org/images/movies/posters/army%20of%20darkness.jpg) isn't the movie either, but it fucking rules, unlike this wolverine poster.


That wasn't patronizing you.



why would wolverine hold his claws to his face?

That was you, not realizing that it's a promotional image and not something from the movie.

[Dukefrukem]

That wasn't patronizing you.




That was you, not realizing that it's a promotional image and not something from the movie.

Lets just drop it k?

[megladon8]

All three TV spots are up. (http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/10991/tcid/1)

[Dukefrukem]

That scene with young Logan and the bones is amazing.

[The Mike]

You guys think we've got it bad, check out the French poster....sick bastards....

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2932/wolverinefrench.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
In related news, apparently Wolverine will be appearing in a Creed video. :lol:

[Dead & Messed Up]

You guys think we've got it bad, check out the French poster....sick bastards....

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2932/wolverinefrench.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
In related news, apparently Wolverine will be appearing in a Creed video. :lol:

Even back then, Wolverine was channeling all his fury into purchasing oversized belt buckles.

[Mara]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2932/wolverinefrench.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I like that poster. A lot.




No particular reason.





Stop looking at me.

[Sycophant]

Actually, I like that French poster a good deal more than any of the other posters I've seen for this movie.

[megladon8]

I don't much feel it's in the right vein.

[number8]

I don't much feel it's in the right vein.

Perhaps because they're photoshopped onto his arm.

[Skitch]

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2027/wolverineaicnea5.jpg


I'll bet there is something totally awesome on the floor in front of them.

Or maybe Wolvie stepped in some poo.

[Watashi]

Full trailer. (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/04/final-wolverine-trailer-and-character-photos-revealed/#more-21661)

At the bottom.

[megladon8]

I don't get why the woman we're shown getting killed in flashbacks (Wolverine's beau, I guess) somehow also appears in scenes later in the timeline.

[Winston*]

Wolverine's beau

Just because Wolverine tap danced at the Oscars, that does not make him gay, meg.

[The Mike]

Oh man, that was so the best part of the Oscars....me and my friends kept a running total of how many times we began to wonder if Hugh was gay. I was impressed, we only made it to 6 or 7. :lol:

[megladon8]

I still think it looks pretty awesome, though I hope they fix the 'snikt' effects before release - that last one was pretty awful.

Oh and I'm looking forward to the explanation of why Wolvie and Cyclops don't recognize each other at the beginning of the first X-Men (assuming that is Scott Summers in this trailer...and it seems it is. Right age and everything.)

[Scar]

Oooh, shiny.

[number8]

Did Joss Whedon do some rewrites on this?

[Wryan]

I still think it looks pretty awesome, though I hope they fix the 'snikt' effects before release - that last one was pretty awful.

Oh and I'm looking forward to the explanation of why Wolvie and Cyclops don't recognize each other at the beginning of the first X-Men (assuming that is Scott Summers in this trailer...and it seems it is. Right age and everything.)

I was wondering that myself, but this is a young Cyclops and he may be in non-Logan scenes.

[Dukefrukem]

meh.

[Ezee E]

Saw the new preview in the theater, and the special effects look AWFUL. As in, direct-to-DVD starring a WWE wrestler awful. This is incredibly disappointing.

[Dukefrukem]

Saw the new preview in the theater, and the special effects look AWFUL. As in, direct-to-DVD starring a WWE wrestler awful. This is incredibly disappointing.

Im glad I'm not alone. Also I've been disappointed with the last two X-men films so I'm not expecting awesome from this movie anyway.

[megladon8]

Im glad I'm not alone. Also I've been disappointed with the last two X-men films so I'm not expecting awesome from this movie anyway.


You were disappointed with X2??

You're nuts. That movie rocked.

And yeah, I pointed out the bad CGI as well, but I'm not worried...I expect it will be topped up for the release. It's one of 20th Century Fox's HUGE releases this year, so I'm expecting they'll make everything look shiny and awesome.

[Dukefrukem]

You were disappointed with X2??

You're nuts. That movie rocked.

And yeah, I pointed out the bad CGI as well, but I'm not worried...I expect it will be topped up for the release. It's one of 20th Century Fox's HUGE releases this year, so I'm expecting they'll make everything look shiny and awesome.

Yes very much so. I'll admit it followed the original story pretty well but I hated the execution and I felt the fight scenes were sloppy and slow. Meh...

[Ezee E]

X2 is great.

Still have doubts on this one though. Lots of bad sounding press about it, and so far it all sounds about right.

[Dukefrukem]

I did only see it once in theaters.

[number8]

X2 is the only good X-men movie, really. Fuck the first one.

[Ezee E]

X2 is the only good X-men movie, really. Fuck the first one.
Yeah, I think the first one I got caught up in that it actually was happening, and only saw the good moments in it.

There are a load of bad moments in that movie.

It's mediocre in the end.

[megladon8]

X2 is the only good X-men movie, really. Fuck the first one.


No way.

The second one is the best, and far superior to the first...but the first was still a pretty good little comic book action movie.

I'd rank X2 among the very best superhero flicks.

[number8]

...pretty good little comic book action movie

That's probably why. Don't do it for me no more.

I'm with E. First time I saw it, it was unbelievable to see something like X-Men exist on the big screen. Years later, it has not been kind. It's really riddled with weak dialogue scenes, and the action scenes are dull. The philosophical approach of the sequel is much better.

[megladon8]

That's probably why. Don't do it for me no more.

I'm with E. First time I saw it, it was unbelievable to see something like X-Men exist on the big screen. Years later, it has not been kind. It's really riddled with weak dialogue scenes, and the action scenes are dull. The philosophical approach of the sequel is much better.


I pretty much agree with everything you said here, but I still enjoy the movie.

I'd give it a 6 or 6.5

And even though it's not really possible without some potentially hoaky make-up/CGI reverse aging, I really wish Brian Cox had been brought back as Stryker for Wolverine.

I thought he was awesome. Definitely better than teh Huston.

[Raiders]

Definitely better than teh Huston.

Nonsense.

[megladon8]

Nonsense.


:lol:

Nitpicking here obviously, but Huston doesn't even look like he could turn into Cox in 15 years, unless he shrank a foot, developed acne scarring and turned Scottish.

[Ezee E]

:lol:

Nitpicking here obviously, but Huston doesn't even look like he could turn into Cox in 15 years, unless he shrank a foot, developed acne scarring and turned Scottish.
Mutant gene?

[number8]

Mutant gene?

...Stryker is human.

[number8]

God, Deadpool looks like balls in this movie.

[Ezee E]

...Stryker is human.
Failed joke I suppose.

[number8]

Failed joke I suppose.

I have a filter against facial jokes.

[Skitch]

I too am curious about Cyclops involvement, but, wait and see...

[Grouchy]

The first X-Men always felt to me like the set up for the second one.

[KK2.0]

the first one feels like a tv show pilot, i dunno if Singer could do better with X3 though, the script was very problematic to begin with.

i dunno what to make of this wolverine movie, i think it's gonna be the Top Gun of this generation in terms of homosexual undertones

but the videogame is shaping up nicely, i'll laugh if the cash in game actually turns out better :p

[Henry Gale]

So... in an April Fool's twist(!), the movie actually leaked online.

It seems like it's an early workprint that may have been put together even before the reshoots, but we'll see. This is probably the biggest leak of its kind since Hulk and Signs did so weeks before their releases about 6 years back.

I'll still wait for the final cut to judge it, but it's always interesting to go back see movies like this in rough form.

[Grouchy]

So... in an April Fool's twist(!), the movie actually leaked online.

It seems like it's an early workprint that may have been put together even before the reshoots, but we'll see. This is probably the biggest leak of its kind since Hulk and Signs did so weeks before their releases about 6 years back.

I'll still wait for the final cut to judge it, but it's always interesting to go back see movies like this in rough form.
So... Is the rough any good?

I think I'll wait for the cinema and pay like the sheep I am.

[Watashi]

I'm normally not big on April Fool's Jokes, but this one is amazing.


20th Century Fox has issued a press release stating that it plans to drastically "re-calibrate" the narrative of Gavin Hood's Tsotsi follow-up, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, while still maintaining its scheduled opening in theaters everywhere on May 1st.

"Look," said CEO Tom Rothman in a prepared statement, "[expletive] those weaselly little mother[expletive]ers that couldn't hold onto their [expletive]ing horses to see this film and pay to do so. This is our way of sticking it to the so-called 'fans' who managed to show up for three of these flicks and purported to be willing to show up for this one, even though the last one was a total piece of [expletive]."

Directing duties on the new footage have been split between three helmers: actor Liev Schreiber has reportedly filmed a nineteen-minute tracking shot that has each and every member of the project's cast and crew extending their middle fingers towards the camera (save for Ryan Reynolds, already occupied by preparations on Julie Taymor's The Proposal: The Musical).


James McTeigue was then hired to shoot the literal murder of the man responsible for leaking the film late last night, Guy Finch, at the hands of a firing squad. Franchise veteran Brett Ratner has just wrapped filming on the film's third portion, in which Rothman and Hood take turns actually sodomizing real-life bloggers and message board trolls who were caught downloading the film. (The last known Tweet of one Snikt683 read as follows: "4 am, time for another Hot Pock-- omg who's knockin, OMG! ITS OSCAR HOST WOLVERINE! Dude, what the F, stop shoving me, running out of char-")

Despite featuring non-simulated on-screen sodomy and rampant flick-off-ery, the MPAA -- for fear of losing their reputation as a hypocritical body in the industry -- has granted this new version a PG for "whatever the hell Tom wants, just please let our families go, and for brief smoking." Once completed, the film will then be given a release directly to the same torrents that the original cut leaked on, followed by a one-week NY/LA awards consideration run on April 17th and a 3,000-screen opening on May 1st.

Despite being uncompleted at the time of this post, Ben Lyons has already been reported as saying that this most recent cut of X-Men Origins: Wolverine is "the best movie since the last one I saw!"

[Henry Gale]

So... Is the rough any good?

I think I'll wait for the cinema and pay like the seep I am.

The quality on the completed footage is perfect DVD quality, colour-timed and everything, but the stuff that is still in need of effects work (which is a good chunk, especially towards the end) is indeed rough.

The movie itself... at least in this state.... is a complete mess. Hugh is fine in the role as we know from the three movies before it. I love Schreiber but he's given some awful material to work with and we never really understand any of the decisions his character makes. People like Taylor Kitsch, Dominic Monaghan and Ryan Reynolds are probably the highlights and I may have been able to tell you that before watching it, but they get about 10 minutes of screentime a piece. And what Reynolds' character becomes in the final act is... just embarassing and terrible.

Hood's direction is kind of non-existent except for a few incredible shots that made me go "Oh right, this is the guy who did Tsotsi", and the script is an example of something that feels like it was inspired at some point but got watered down with 10,000 studio notes and ghost writers trying to put their own things into it. Some of the action is cool, but a lot of it is entirely forgettable. Everyone seems to be trying, but this is exactly the type of superhero movie people don't need after last year's big ones.

In some cases I can see visual effects and final tinkering really making a movie like this, in which case I still have to see the end result, but the bare story and characters elements are just so clunky I can't see anything improving at least in that aspect of it. I really wanted to enjoy it, but after a certain point I realized it wasn't trying to be any sort of precursor to Singer's X-Men films (or... the other one) and just felt like it was hitting a bunch of points it needed to get to to put together a nice trailer for people to see Jackman's Wolverine character in a vehicle that tells us possibly even less of a backstory then we knew before.

[Watashi]

Benoiff did the screenplay, right?

Man, he really fell far after 25th Hour.

[Henry Gale]

Benoiff did the screenplay, right?

Man, he really fell far after 25th Hour.

I actually think he's a pretty good writer, and there are some bits of dialogue I enjoyed in Wolverine whether they were from him or not. But like I said it doesn't feel like anything cohesive at all and it definitely doesn't feel like Benioff as much as it feels as though it went through several different hands before being shot and edited. It also feels like it starts 3 or 4 different times and after that it's almost like a highlight reel of mutants that each give a little bit of information to move the plot along.

[megladon8]

In case anyone's interested in knowing every plot twist and revelation in the movie, here's the whole movie with screenshots and retarded gamer lingo descriptions. (http://poststuff5.entensity.net/040309/image.php?pic=xmenwolverine.jp g)

Possible NSFW ads on the page.

[Acapelli]

that was painful to read

sounds like deadpool was ruined

[Scar]

sounds like deadpool was ruined

Please explain, probably spoiler texted, to one such as I who is not well educated in the comic book realm.

[Henry Gale]

Please explain, probably spoiler texted, to one such as I who is not well educated in the comic book realm.


I don't know too much about Deadpool other than what I saw in the movie but I can assume that he was never *Ending Spoilers* turned into a goopy, hairless, fetus-y dude dubbed "Weapon XI" that was created by Stryker as another indestructible mutant with katanas put into his arms similar to Wolverine's claws.
I could be wrong though...

[Amnesiac]

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zz5103c966.jpg

[megladon8]

I really hope this is as awesome as it looks. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/wolverine/large3.html)

[lovejuice]

at la book festival, i went to a panel featuring one of the writers for this movie. poor guy, he's totally upstaged by other two female authors.

[Henry Gale]

I really hope this is as awesome as it looks. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/wolverine/large3.html)

I just noticed a few moments in that trailer aren't in the movie, and seeing as it's been determined that the theatrical cut is no different from the workprint aside from effects and score, I now feel a lot more comfortable saying the movie definitely sucks.

[megladon8]

I just noticed a few moments in that trailer aren't in the movie, and seeing as it's been determined that the theatrical cut is no different from the workprint aside from effects and score, I now feel a lot more comfortable saying the movie definitely sucks.


Really? A friend of mine saw the workprint and really liked it. He said it had a great opening.

I'm looking forward to it. I freaking adore Hugh Jackman - seriously, I could watch that guy read a phone book. And pay to see it.

[number8]

I'm assuming you also totally adored the shower scene on Australia, then, eh?

[megladon8]

I'm assuming you also totally adored the shower scene on Australia, then, eh?


Nah, I never saw that one :)

[Henry Gale]

Really? A friend of mine saw the workprint and really liked it. He said it had a great opening.

I'm looking forward to it. I freaking adore Hugh Jackman - seriously, I could watch that guy read a phone book. And pay to see it.

I really like Jackman too, I mean I wouldn't watch anything with him (as I still need to catch up with Australia and will probably never bother with something like Deception) but as someone with a Fountain av I'll say I can find him to be an extremely effective on-screen presence in the right things.

If your friend was referring to the opening of the movie as in young Wolverine's beginning as a mutant then... I can only assume he was being sarcastic as there's at least two huge laugh-out-loud moments in that first 4 or 5 minutes alone.

[EvilShoe]

I have to side with Gale here, the workprint is pretty awful.
I'd actually recommended seeing that version, as the unfinished look at least makes it somewhat amusing.

[number8]

Heh, I've actually been hearing that the finished CG is so bad that it's better to watch the workprint so you wont ave those distractions.

[megladon8]

The few reviews I've read have been pretty positive.

Not The Dark Knight positive - they say it has definite flaws and that for all their talkin' smack, Victor Creed and Wolvie never really have a duke-out that feels suitably epic.

But still, they say it's very fun, very entertaining, lots of fun action sequences, and that it will leave fans wanting another movie.

So yeah, I'm pretty excited to see this. I'm looking forward to having a good time at the movies this coming month.

[megladon8]

Hugh Jackman bought breakfast for everyone in Arizona who was camped out to see the premiere of the movie.

What a freaking nice guy.

[Dukefrukem]

I really hope this is as awesome as it looks. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/wolverine/large3.html)

Wow. The shot of Wolverines bones was fantastic.

[Sycophant]

Do people still camp out for movies? Jesus.

[number8]

Do people still camp out for movies? Jesus.

What's wrong with it?

[Sycophant]

Nothing, I suppose. I'm just above it, that's all. *sniffs*

[Dukefrukem]

What's wrong with it?

A lot.

[number8]

A lot.

Yeah? What else?

[Ezee E]

It's like tailgating at sporting events. I've never done it for a movie, but I don't see a problem with it.

[Ezee E]

Hilarious review (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090429/REVIEWS/904299978) by Ebert.

[megladon8]

Hilarious review (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090429/REVIEWS/904299978) by Ebert.


One thing I notice with Ebert is that his reviews often seem totally contradictory to the star rating he gives the movie.

[Sycophant]

One thing I notice with Ebert is that his reviews often seem totally contradictory to the star rating he gives the movie.

I don't know. That read a hell of a lot like a two-star Ebert review of a technically proficient superhero movie.

[Dukefrukem]

Jackman was on Howard Stern today. Apparently he has a big penis.

[DavidSeven]

One thing I notice with Ebert is that his reviews often seem totally contradictory to the star rating he gives the movie.

What do you mean? He clearly didn't like the film. He gave it two stars, which is a "thumbs down" for him. What exactly is contradictory about it?

[megladon8]

Doesn't he run on the 4 star system?

It just seemed to me like the review was saying the movie was bad, yet I've seen him give 2 star reviews to films and more-or-less say "it's worth seeing even though it has faults".

Here he says "don't see it unless you're a Wolverine fanboy".

[DavidSeven]

I don't know. Ebert's scale is very generous. He only dips below two-stars if he really, really hated the film. He will give something **1/2 if he's divided on it. Two stars is definitely a rotten (not a "worth seeing") for him.

[Sycophant]

Ebert's also big into the "for what it is" scale of rating films. And I'm sure what he believes Wolverine "is" is a big, retarded summer action comic book film. While he obviously didn't like Wolverine, he didn't think it was such a hateful insult that he needed to completely eviscerate it. You'll know what that looks like when you see it.

[megladon8]

I suppose I'm similar to Ebert, then.

I'm very much of the "for what it is" school of thought, too.

Also, I tend to try to find something to enjoy in every movie I see. It takes a really horrendous, worthless pile of shit for me to say "this movie gets a 1/10".

[Milky Joe]

I just found out Ryan Reynolds is in this movie.

I am not going to see this movie.

[Watashi]

He's in it for maybe 10 minutes.

I was surprised how fun this movie was. Huston is awesome.

[megladon8]

He's in it for maybe 10 minutes.

I was surprised how fun this movie was. Huston is awesome.


This is pretty much what I'm hoping for.

If I walk out of the theatre and can say "I just had a great time", this movie will have been a success in my books.

[Watashi]

For Deadpool fans. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1R5PhReY5k)

[thefourthwall]

Well, it was better than the third one.

[thefourthwall]

http://d3gkbha1s7sr56.cloudfront.net/someecards/filestorage/mov_70.jpg

[Raiders]

I just found out Ryan Reynolds is in this movie.

I am not going to see this movie.

He was the only reason I was considering seeing it.

[Mysterious Dude]

I've only seen the trailer, and I know I shouldn't talk about movies I haven't seen, but someone explain this to me.

Wolverine, as a child, already had metal claws in his hands? In the 19th century? Wut?

[Ivan Drago]

For Deadpool fans. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1R5PhReY5k)

"Hi, I'm a Marvel---WOOOAH!!!" :lol:

[number8]

I've only seen the trailer, and I know I shouldn't talk about movies I haven't seen, but someone explain this to me.

Wolverine, as a child, already had metal claws in his hands? In the 19th century? Wut?

Watch the trailer again. Those aren't metal.

[Mysterious Dude]

Watch the trailer again. Those aren't metal.
Okay, I read Wikipedia's entry on Wolverine (which I guess I should have done in the first place). I have a feeling they were just making up the origins as they went along. I mean, the healing power is simple enough, but extendable bone claws? What an odd, random mutation. I was much happier when I believed they were added during the science experiment.

[Melville]

Okay, I read Wikipedia's entry on Wolverine (which I guess I should have done in the first place). I have a feeling they were just making up the origins as they went along. I mean, the healing power is simple enough, but extendable bone claws? What an odd, random mutation. I was much happier when I believed they were added during the science experiment.
Aren't bone claws a more believable mutation than psychic powers or the ability to control the weather?

[Derek]

So yeah, this was silly but harmless. Not really concerned with character motivations or depth of emotion, but check off plenty of annoying cliches like character screaming no to the heavens (a second time, the camera not only pulls away to the sky, but cuts to a long shot of the forest righteous indignation FTW!), walking away from an exploding helicopter all slow and badass (followed immediately by a boxing match with a man in a fat suit, indignation/comedy combo FTW!). And I'll say it for Wats. This movie obviously wasn't for me, but my comic book fan friend was also laughing at its stupidity throughout. It's certainly not the worst comic book movie out there, but it's a shitty movie, on par with The Incredible Hulk with a few points added for Schrieber and Huston.

[Derek]

I was much happier when I believed they were added during the science experiment.

You care too much about logic in the X-Men universe if this is really the case.

[megladon8]

He was the only reason I was considering seeing it.


This logic makes no sense to me.

[Raiders]

This logic makes no sense to me.

I really like him as an actor. Nothing else about this movie appeals to me. Pretty simple.

[megladon8]

I really like him as an actor. Nothing else about this movie appeals to me. Pretty simple.


My point was that I don't like him.

Pretty simple, too.

[Amnesiac]

He was the only reason I was considering seeing it.

You've mentioned your appreciation of his work a few times before. But I don't think you've ever gone beyond that. So, really, why do you like him? Am I missing out on a brilliant Reynolds performance that has somehow gotten lost somewhere amongst his more unremarkable performances? (i.e., Adventureland).

[Raiders]

You've mentioned him a few times before. Why do you like him so much?

I don't know really. I think mainly I have defended him since it seems rather easy to degrade his work for all the dumb comedies and such he has starred in. But, I have seen a few of his films and think that he has generally been just about the best thing about each of them. He's handled dramatic roles with the same efficiency as his broader, comedic work.

He's also a pretty perfect choice for Deadpool.

[Watashi]

So yeah, this was silly but harmless. Not really concerned with character motivations or depth of emotion, but check off plenty of annoying cliches like character screaming no to the heavens (a second time, the camera not only pulls away to the sky, but cuts to a long shot of the forest righteous indignation FTW!), walking away from an exploding helicopter all slow and badass (followed immediately by a boxing match with a man in a fat suit, indignation/comedy combo FTW!). And I'll say it for Wats. This movie obviously wasn't for me, but my comic book fan friend was also laughing at its stupidity throughout. It's certainly not the worst comic book movie out there, but it's a shitty movie, on par with The Incredible Hulk with a few points added for Schrieber and Huston.
This is much better than The Incredible Hulk. Every scene with Huston was awesome.

I put this film next to 80's films like Cobra, Red Dawn, and Commando. Just big dumb mindless action films.

[Amnesiac]

I don't know really. I think mainly I have defended him since it seems rather easy to degrade his work for all the dumb comedies and such he has starred in. But, I have seen a few of his films and think that he has generally been just about the best thing about each of them. He's handled dramatic roles with the same efficiency as his broader, comedic work.

Hm. I edited my post a bit before you replied, indicating that I really haven't seen much from him besides unremarkable performances. But I actually haven't seen much from him, period... but there's definitely nothing extraordinary about what little I have seen.

And I don't know anything about the character Deadpool.

[Derek]

big dumb mindless

This would be a perfect three-word review.

[lovejuice]

I put this film next to 80's films like Cobra, Red Dawn, and Commando.
whoa, never heard of Red Dawn before. is it as awesome as two other titles in that sentence?

[Winston*]

Prioritising Reynolds over Huston is wrong, Raiders. Wrong.

[number8]

I don't know really. I think mainly I have defended him since it seems rather easy to degrade his work for all the dumb comedies and such he has starred in. But, I have seen a few of his films and think that he has generally been just about the best thing about each of them. He's handled dramatic roles with the same efficiency as his broader, comedic work.

He's also a pretty perfect choice for Deadpool.

I'm with you. I think Ryan Reynolds has always been great in everything he's done, even the shitty movies.

You know what? I don't even want to see this movie anymore. Call me when there's a Deadpool solo movie with Reynolds.

[Sxottlan]

I mean, the healing power is simple enough, but extendable bone claws? What an odd, random mutation. I was much happier when I believed they were added during the science experiment.

I was recently thinking that it does almost seem like Wolverine has two different mutant abilities. Quick healing abilities and retractable claws don't really seem like one necessarily follows the other, except for the openings around the knuckles.

[number8]

I was recently thinking that it does almost seem like Wolverine has two different mutant abilities.

More than two. Logan also has superhuman smell.

This is pretty common with X-Men characters. Sabretooth has healing factor, claws and superhuman senses. Deadpool has healing factor and teleportation. Jean Grey is a psychic and has her Phoenix form. Emma Frost is psychic and can turn her body into indestructible diamond. Angel has wings and his blood can heal. Nightcrawler can teleport and walk on walls.

And so on.

[The Mike]

My point was that I don't like him.

Pretty simple, too.

That logic makes no sense to me. :sad:

[Kurosawa Fan]

Going to see this today. Not at all excited about it, but a friend asked, and my wife and sons are out of town until later tonight, so what the hell. Blerg.

[The Mike]

Schreiber and Huston were pretty much the only good things about this one. Jackman phones it in for another paycheck, the cliches fly around like swine flu in Tijuana, and the "twists" in the final act laugh in the face of intelligence...which is OK, for a comic book flick, actually.

Biggest problem, like every other X-Men flick, is that every character outside of Wolverine is a waste of space because they're not developed.

And Reynolds is a glorified cameo. If you're going for him, you can leave after 20 minutes (10 of which he's not in).

I'd put it about on-par with X3...but I think I liked that a little more.

[[ETM]]

I'd put it about on-par with X3...but I think I liked that a little more.

Does Wolverine also negate itself in the end, leaving you with a sense of wasted time, because everything that happened essentially amounted to nothing?

[The Mike]

;158673']Does Wolverine also negate itself in the end, leaving you with a sense of wasted time, because everything that happened essentially amounted to nothing?

Well, now that you mention it....


It is a prequel, after all.

[Pop Trash]

This wasn't that bad. It was dumb mindless fun as was said before. Parts of it reminded me of the Rambo movies with Logan being all serious in "harmony" with nature then brought back into the military fold by his old C.O. because it's in his blood to just kill the fuck out of everything.

The writing/direction is all cookie cutter Hollywood but I guess I had fun with it. It seemed like the last 30 pages of the screenplay just got put through a paper shredder and reassembled with help from grabbing plot notes out of a hat.

Movies like this actually seem closer to me to the pulpy/ridiculous spirit of the comic books I remember reading as a kid in the 80s, rather than the really good films like say The Dark Knight. It felt like a second rate Marvel mini-series from like 1987, so ummm, I guess that's a compliment?

[Grouchy]

http://ubadatos.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/wolverine_pelicula.jpg

Pop Trash has a point. The movie really feels "comic-booky" in the way that most X-Men comics really are, or at least were at some point. And the comparisons with '80s action films are also valid.

So, let's dissect this thing. The opening scene is over-the-top (including a "NOOOOOOOO!" scream) but it's fast-paced and it does a good job of setting up the character. The opening credits are very fun to watch, showcasing Wolverine and Sabretooth and their war exploits throughout the years. I also have no problems with the new Stryker from the movies - I think he's a fine villain on his own right, and both Cox and Huston have done a good job with him. In fact, I think the movie is pretty much great until Sabretooth comes to pick up Wolverine from retirement, which I guess is pretty early on. Then a lot of great stuff (Wolverine vs. The Blob, the meeting with Gambit) gets mixed in with the disappointments (the final "twist" regarding Wolvie's girl, that Black Eyed Peas guy pretending he's Wraith, everything concerning Deadpool) and the action movie clichés start running rampant.

Still, at no point Wolverine becomes a drag to watch. One serious beef I had with it is that the CGI is awful. Seriously, it's bad beyond belief, specially as concerns Logan's adamantium claws. The plot also doesn't make much sense, specially near the end where stuff happens that tries to out-do every other climax the film has. I think Wolverine is a film that works well as far as it's about Wolvie as a plot excuse to fight different mutant characters in different settings - but the overall script is lousy. Still, for a comic guy like me, it was fun to watch.

[The Mike]

BTW, did anyone else mistake young Logan for Ellen Page?

I know I did. :lol: