Wolverine

[Dukefrukem]

So yeah, this was silly but harmless. Not really concerned with character motivations or depth of emotion, but check off plenty of annoying cliches like character screaming no to the heavens (a second time, the camera not only pulls away to the sky, but cuts to a long shot of the forest righteous indignation FTW!), walking away from an exploding helicopter all slow and badass (followed immediately by a boxing match with a man in a fat suit, indignation/comedy combo FTW!). And I'll say it for Wats. This movie obviously wasn't for me, but my comic book fan friend was also laughing at its stupidity throughout. It's certainly not the worst comic book movie out there, but it's a shitty movie, on par with The Incredible Hulk with a few points added for Schrieber and Huston.

The trailer does give a lot of those away. As long as it's not as bad as Daredevil or Electra.

[Dukefrukem]

Still, at no point Wolverine becomes a drag to watch. One serious beef I had with it is that the CGI is awful. Seriously, it's bad beyond belief, specially as concerns Logan's adamantium claws. The plot also doesn't make much sense, specially near the end where stuff happens that tries to out-do every other climax the film has. I think Wolverine is a film that works well as far as it's about Wolvie as a plot excuse to fight different mutant characters in different settings - but the overall script is lousy. Still, for a comic guy like me, it was fun to watch.

So I guess they didn't fix the CGI from the trailers. That's disappointing. I'm not going to see this in theaters anymore.

[Scar]

Waiting is hi-larious.

[lovejuice]

Nightcrawler can teleport and walk on walls.
huh? what's so great about the second ability?
http://photos.oc.edu/photos/39974190_JJuBA-S-1.jpg

[megladon8]

Made $87 million this weekend.

[number8]

Made $87 million this weekend.

Piracy works.

[Sycophant]

Made $87 million this weekend.

Oh god, I thought I was in Random Thoughts for a minute and was so confused.

[megladon8]

Oh god, I thought I was in Random Thoughts for a minute and was so confused.


If I made that much money in a weekend I probably wouldn't be here.

[Sycophant]

If I made that much money in a weekend I probably wouldn't be here.

Admit it. You would be.

If I made 87 million dollars in a weekend, I'd be here more often.

[megladon8]

Admit it. You would be.

If I made 87 million dollars in a weekend, I'd be here more often.


I would be eventually. But right this minute, I'd probably be in New York City, buying a loft in Manhattan and partying Jen and her family.

I'd also have a MatchCut party, where I would fly each and every one of you to NYC and drinks would be on me.

'Cause, you know. I'm nice like that.

[number8]

That's cool, dude. But you know I would drop a roofie in your drink and steal your identity.

[The Mike]

That's cool, dude. But you know I would drop a roofie in your drink and steal your identity.

And while you were sleeping.... :twisted:

[Ezee E]

I'd build an island, call it The Moon, and build a movie theater that Match Cutters could come to.

[Skitch]

Seeing this today...

[Kurosawa Fan]

This was that bad. More thoughts to come later if I feel like it, which I probably won't.

[BuffaloWilder]

I was surprised at how terrible this was. And, what a disappointment, too. All the elements seemed to be in place, at first. An Oscar-winning director; Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool; lack of flotsam to distract from Jackman's Wolverine.

And, then it all fell apart.

[Dukefrukem]

Meh, going to see this tonight.

[Dukefrukem]

It's bad. Awful in fact. Worse than the third X-men. The worst special effects I've seen in a film this year. Pirates 2 has better special effects. Bad editing. Bad dialog. Bad finale fight. Bad bad bad bad.

Patrick Stewert looked like shit at the end. Did they try and make him look younger with special effects too? What the fuck was that? I like the idea though

I was told there was an additional scene after the credits. Even that was bad.

[The Mike]

I was told there was an additional scene after the credits. Even that was bad.

Apparently there were TWO different scenes after the credits. The one I saw sucked, I'm told the other one sucked less but still sucked.

[Fezzik]

Apparently there were TWO different scenes after the credits. The one I saw sucked, I'm told the other one sucked less but still sucked.

There are actually three....


1. Deadpool looking for his head in the rubble.
2. Stryker getting picked up for murdering the General.
3. Wolverine drinking in Japan

[Fezzik]

Patrick Stewert looked like shit at the end. Did they try and make him look younger with special effects too? What the fuck was that? I like the idea though



I was under the impression that it was all CGI. Is Patrick Stewart actually in the credits anywhere?

[number8]

I was under the impression that it was all CGI. Is Patrick Stewart actually in the credits anywhere?

No, it's him. I've been told that his appearance in the leaked workprint is better because it doesn't have the de-aging effects, even though he looks older than the 30 years later X-Men.

[Henry Gale]

The worst special effects I've seen in a film this year. Pirates 2 has better special effects.

I don't understand this comparison. To me the Pirates sequels have some of the best CG of any summer blockbusters. I mean the Davey Jones effects alone are still amazing to me.

[trotchky]

Guys I got the "good" ending.

[lovejuice]

I don't understand this comparison. To me the Pirates sequels have some of the best CG of any summer blockbusters. I mean the Davey Jones effects alone are still amazing to me.
i think he means that porn movie.

[The Mike]

There are actually three....


1. Deadpool looking for his head in the rubble.
2. Stryker getting picked up for murdering the General.
3. Wolverine drinking in Japan



#2 was during the credits on mine, followed by #3 after.

What is this, Clue?

[Henry Gale]

i think he means that porn movie.

So do I.

*Insert laughy punny sex joke about Davey Jonads / Davey Cajones*

A true work of art, indeed.

[Fezzik]

No, it's him. I've been told that his appearance in the leaked workprint is better because it doesn't have the de-aging effects, even though he looks older than the 30 years later X-Men.

Wow...ok, that confirms it. The special effects were HORRIBLE.

[Skitch]

Far from great, but I enjoyed it. I don't see where everyone is griping about the special effects.

Wolverine > X3

[Dukefrukem]

There are actually three....


1. Deadpool looking for his head in the rubble.
2. Stryker getting picked up for murdering the General.
3. Wolverine drinking in Japan



The Deadpool one doesn't exist. I stayed until the blue screen appeared after the movie.

[Dukefrukem]

Far from great, but I enjoyed it. I don't see where everyone is griping about the special effects.

Wolverine > X3

1. The scene in the bathroom at the farmhouse.
2. Doing a 180 on the motorcycle with his claws in teh ground.
3. Logan chopping up the ladder that Gambit was climbing up.
4. the Deadpool scene at the end.

[Skitch]

1. The scene in the bathroom at the farmhouse.
2. Doing a 180 on the motorcycle with his claws in teh ground.
3. Logan chopping up the ladder that Gambit was climbing up.
4. the Deadpool scene at the end.

These didn't seem any worse to me than anything in X3 or Daredevil...which is about where my expectations were for this from the beginning.

[Skitch]

The Deadpool one doesn't exist. I stayed until the blue screen appeared after the movie.

Yes it does. It was at the end of my showing.

[Dukefrukem]

These didn't seem any worse to me than anything in X3 or Daredevil...which is about where my expectations were for this from the beginning.

Daredevil is on another planet of suck.


Yes it does. It was at the end of my showing.

My theater didn't show it then.

[Grouchy]

From what I understand the Stryker scene is in every showing a half-minute or so into the credits. Which after-credits scene you get depends on your showing.

I got Deadpool's.

[Dukefrukem]

From what I understand the Stryker scene is in every showing a half-minute or so into the credits. Which after-credits scene you get depends on your showing.

I got Deadpool's.

wow I've never heard of anything like that before.

[Kurosawa Fan]

From what I understand the Stryker scene is in every showing a half-minute or so into the credits. Which after-credits scene you get depends on your showing.

I got Deadpool's.

That's one of the dumbest decisions I've heard in a long time. Makes me dislike the movie even more, which I wasn't sure was possible until just now.

[Melville]

wow I've never heard of anything like that before.
X-Men 3 also had multiple after-credits scenes, with different endings showing at different theaters. It also had the computerized de-aging effects for Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan, as I recall.

[Watashi]

That's one of the dumbest decisions I've heard in a long time. Makes me dislike the movie even more, which I wasn't sure was possible until just now.
Um.... what?

It's clearly there just for the hardcore fans.

Relax.

[Grouchy]

When and if a hardcore fan goes to see the movie twice because of that, he stops being a hardcore fan and becomes a moron, though.

[Dukefrukem]

How does that even appeal to hardcore fans?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Um.... what?

It's clearly there just for the hardcore fans.

Relax.

So for those like me, who are just casual fans of the genre and series, we'll have no idea that Deadpool survived because we didn't get that ending. Sounds like a great idea.

[Dukefrukem]

So for those like me, who are just casual fans of the genre and series, we'll have no idea that Deadpool survived because we didn't get that ending. Sounds like a great idea.

Not that it's a big deal and most people in here have seen it, but you may want to spoil wrap that.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Not that it's a big deal and most people in here have seen it, but you may want to spoil wrap that.

Good call.

[Sycophant]

Yeah, why would "hardcore fans" like that?

Also, I have a built-in reflex that dictates "fuck 'hardcore fans'," so I've got some bias here.

[Watashi]

Yeah, why would "hardcore fans" like that?

Also, I have a built-in reflex that dictates "fuck 'hardcore fans'," so I've got some bias here.

Because it features Deadpool breaking the 4th wall and really has no impact on the plot except to service the fans of the character.

You need to get your reflex checked out.

[Derek]

Because it features Deadpool breaking the 4th wall and really has no impact on the plot except to service the fans of the character.

I'm still confused at how showing this at half the screenings rather than all of them benefits the hardcore fans?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Because it features Deadpool breaking the 4th wall and really has no impact on the plot except to service the fans of the character.


How does it have no impact on the plot? I thought he was dead.

[Wryan]

Did you mean to use "service" in that particular way, Wats?

[megladon8]

Total worldwide box office for the opening weekend was $158 million.

So I imagine there will be another one.

You know what? I haven't seen it yet, and even if I end up not being thrilled by it, I'm happy it did well.

Hugh Jackman is one of those seemingly rare, genuine success stories. A guy who wasn't born into the business or anything - he was a regular guy who loved acting on the stage, got a couple lucky breaks because of his talent, and has made it.

He was incredibly passionate about this project, and whether or not his vision (or his input in the overall vision) is something that will be remembered as "great", I find him to be a charismatic, charming and genuine individual, so I like seeing him succeed.

I thought his buying breakfast for those hundreds of fans waiting to see this movie's premiere was a very sweet gesture.

He has often said that he is so appreciative of the fans, because if it weren't for the X-Men fans flocking to theatres nearly 10 years ago, he would still be a nobody trying to make ends meet on Australian stages. Wolverine made him - the fans of Wolverine made him - and he knows this.

So yeah. Even if it's not a great movie, good on him.

[Grouchy]

Despite the fact that this hasn't been good, I hope they make a sequel with the Wolverine in Japan concept, fighting samurais and the like.

They could even involve Elektra into it provided they change the actress.

[megladon8]

Despite the fact that this hasn't been good, I hope they make a sequel with the Wolverine in Japan concept, fighting samurais and the like.

They could even involve Elektra into it provided they change the actress.


Yeha, Jackman said in a couple of interviews that Japan would be where the story goes if there's another movie.

I'd love to see a fairly direct adaptation of the Claremont/Miller story. That would be awesome.

[BuffaloWilder]

How does it have no impact on the plot? I thought he was dead.

Well, if I really wanted to nitpick, a certain character did say something to the extent of, "his head may grow back, but his mind won't" just before the credits rolled.

[Qrazy]

So is this movie worth watching? Yay or nay?

[Rowland]

Sounds pretty nay to me. Not that I was all that interested to begin with.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Well, if I really wanted to nitpick, a certain character did say something to the extent of, "his head may grow back, but his mind won't" just before the credits rolled.

Either way, it would have been a cool shot to see, and I don't really understand why I should have to drive to a different city in the hopes that I might catch it, or wait 6 months for a DVD. It doesn't make any sense at all.

And Qrazy, it's a definite 'nay'.

[Scar]

So is this movie worth watching? Yay or nay?

Sounds like a six pack special.

[megladon8]

Sequel is already in development at Jackman's production company, Seed Productions. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003176.html?categoryid=1 3&cs=1&nid=2562)

[Kurosawa Fan]

Seed Productions? Really?

[megladon8]

Seed Productions? Really?


Yes.

Let the gay rumors re-emerge.

[Derek]

Yes.

Let the gay rumors re-emerge.

So there's still a shot for you meg! I know you're not gay, but c'mon, if Hugh Jackman came a knockin', tell me you'd turn him down. ;)

[Kurosawa Fan]

Yes.

Let the gay rumors re-emerge.

I didn't mean it that way. I get the reference. A seed blossoms into a plant or tree, etc. It's just a really lame name. Almost as lame as his "performance" in this movie, which consisted of nothing more than furrowing his brow and/or raising one eyebrow. :P

[megladon8]

So there's still a shot for you meg! I know you're not gay, but c'mon, if Hugh Jackman came a knockin', tell me you'd turn him down. ;)


Hell no.

I'd let him and Christian Bale double-team me.

Michael Caine can watch for $10.



I didn't mean it that way. I get the reference. A seed blossoms into a plant or tree, etc. It's just a really lame name. Almost as lame as his "performance" in this movie, which consisted of nothing more than furrowing his brow and/or raising one eyebrow.

Oh well. His performances in The Fountain and The Prestige show he's talented. He just had fun with this one, I guess.

Man, 2006 was a great year.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Indeed. I thought he was great in The Fountain.

[BuffaloWilder]

Man, 2006 was a great year.

Yes, yes it was.

[EvilShoe]

I found the after the credits scene with Deadpool, but it's very dark and therefore hard to see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Myo48Ww4OY

[BuffaloWilder]

I found the after the credits scene with Deadpool, but it's very dark and therefore hard to see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Myo48Ww4OY

Not even a 'chimichanga,' to boot.

[megladon8]

Yes, yes it was.


Honestly, there are a good 4 or 5 movies that came out in '06 that would probably make my top 100. Just look at the number of good-to-great movies that year, and this is almost entirely American or fairly big-budget releases...

The Prestige
The Fountain
The Departed
Pan's Labyrinth
Superman Returns
Fido
Match Point (got its wide release in 2006)
Tsotsi (N.A. release in '06)
Find Me Guilty
V for Vendetta
Inside Man
Slither
The Notorious Bettie Page
United 93
The Proposition (N.A. release '06)
An Inconvenient Truth
A Prairie Home Companion
Beowulf & Grendel
A Scanner Darkly...

The list goes on. That was a very good year for movies.

[BuffaloWilder]

Honestly, there are a good 4 or 5 movies that came out in '06 that would probably make my top 100. Just look at the number of good-to-great movies that year, and this is almost entirely American or fairly big-budget releases...

The Prestige
The Fountain
The Departed
Pan's Labyrinth
Superman Returns
Fido
Match Point (got its wide release in 2006)
Tsotsi (N.A. release in '06)
Find Me Guilty
V for Vendetta
Inside Man
Slither
The Notorious Bettie Page
United 93
The Proposition (N.A. release '06)
An Inconvenient Truth
A Prairie Home Companion
Beowulf & Grendel
A Scanner Darkly...

The list goes on. That was a very good year for movies.

O', the irony.

[trotchky]

That's one of the dumbest decisions I've heard in a long time. Makes me dislike the movie even more, which I wasn't sure was possible until just now.

I don't like it because it makes me think of bad videogames.

[BuffaloWilder]

I will say this for the film, though - the dialogue is certainly much better than it was in The Last Stand, though that isn't really saying much.

[EvilShoe]

Deadpool spin-off is happening:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=8308

[Dukefrukem]

So is this movie worth watching? Yay or nay?

Wait for DVD. def.

[Dukefrukem]

Honestly, there are a good 4 or 5 movies that came out in '06 that would probably make my top 100. Just look at the number of good-to-great movies that year, and this is almost entirely American or fairly big-budget releases...

The Prestige
The Fountain
The Departed
Pan's Labyrinth
Superman Returns
Fido
Match Point (got its wide release in 2006)
Tsotsi (N.A. release in '06)
Find Me Guilty
V for Vendetta
Inside Man
Slither
The Notorious Bettie Page
United 93
The Proposition (N.A. release '06)
An Inconvenient Truth
A Prairie Home Companion
Beowulf & Grendel
A Scanner Darkly...

The list goes on. That was a very good year for movies.

Sorry but I laughed out loud @ Superman Returns. The rest of the list is legit.

[Dukefrukem]

I found the after the credits scene with Deadpool, but it's very dark and therefore hard to see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Myo48Ww4OY

It looks like he broke the seal to his mouth too. Obviously that would have to happen in the spinoff but it was good to see there.

[Yxklyx]

http://library.thinkquest.org/3500/images/wolverine_large.jpg

[Scar]

MN Zoo, 10.25.08

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v377/251/111/502501702/n502501702_1519425_2422.jpg

[Skitch]

Thats the biggest candy corn I've ever seen.

[Scar]

Thats the biggest candy corn I've ever seen.

He was lovin' it:

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v377/251/111/502501702/n502501702_1519423_1951.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v377/251/111/502501702/n502501702_1519424_2187.jpg

[Thirdmango]

I got the deadpool ending but I didn't get the wolvie in a bar ending. Weird.

This movie was fun. I was sad that Dominic was only in the first couple scenes. I'm only saying it was fun because I'm a Marvel Whore. It had way too many characters doing silly things. And Deadpool could have been much cooler. Oh well.

[megladon8]

X-Men Origins: Wolverine in 30 seconds. (http://poststuff2.entensity.net/050609/flash.php?media=xmen.flv)

Warning: This website sometimes has NSFW ads.

[Raiders]

You know what? I don't even want to see this movie anymore. Call me when there's a Deadpool solo movie with Reynolds.

Huzzah!

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.eonline.com/wolverines-ryan-reynolds-dives-deadpool-spinoff-20090506

[number8]

Huzzah!

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.eonline.com/wolverines-ryan-reynolds-dives-deadpool-spinoff-20090506

No, call me when it's actually here.

[KK2.0]

Far from great, but I enjoyed it. I don't see where everyone is griping about the special effects.

Wolverine > X3

same here, although it's still not a big compliment

the videogame seems better believe me or not, i'm definitely renting it.

[lovejuice]

X-Men Origins: Wolverine in 30 seconds. (http://poststuff2.entensity.net/050609/flash.php?media=xmen.flv)

Warning: This website sometimes has NSFW ads.
at first, i thought it's one of those bunny thingies, but this is more awesome.

[Sxottlan]

The whole Origins concept is a fascinating one. I like the idea of getting stand alone films about the more minor characters. However, besides Logan, Magneto and Rogue (whose origins we've already kind of seen), I'm not sure who else would really make a great film.

And this is not as good as the last film. It's not that much of an insult because I'm the only apparent person on Earth who actually liked X-Men 3.

Still, an overcomplicated plot and mediocre production values hurt this film. Such as:

1. Was this seriously supposed to be 1979? Really? I mean, besides a few vehicles, how are we supposed to tell? And if so, what the hell was a humvee doing there or Wraith's modern-looking gun? I did like Xavier's Airwolf-like chopper however.

2. Did Logan really miss the complete lack of actual wounds on his girlfriend?

3. So, was that one team member killed solely to get Logan back? Wha?

4. Gotta love how despite the fact that Gambit should be running for his life, he comes back to fight Logan because otherwise, Wolverine had Victor dead to rights and that would have shortened the film immensely.

5. What exactly would have Stryker done to Logan if he hadn't flatlined after the procedure? It's like, "Oh damn, he's dead. No he's alive. Oh well, wipe his memory."

6. So Victor is the same guy from the first film? Somehow, that makes that fight from nine years ago even more anti-climactic.

Having never seen Deadpool before, I liked him here, but were they actually referencing The Phantom Menace at his introduction at the end of the film?

Acting is still fine and Jackman emerges unscathed from this. I did laugh at the allusion to puberty and masterbation in that bathroom scene at the farmhouse.

[lovejuice]

I'm the only apparent person on Earth who actually liked X-Men 3.
me too! it's the worst of the series, but nothing is appalling about it.

[Dukefrukem]

5. What exactly would have Stryker done to Logan if he hadn't flatlined after the procedure? It's like, "Oh damn, he's dead. No he's alive. Oh well, wipe his memory."

6. So Victor is the same guy from the first film? Somehow, that's able to make that fight from nine years ago even more anti-climactic.
.

5. He would have moved him on to the next step in his mixing mutant gene process. Wolverine already survived the first and hardest step.

6. Yes. Very unfortunate.

[Milky Joe]

me too! it's the worst of the series, but nothing is appalling about it.

I couldn't disagree more. That movie was downright offensive. I wish to god Singer had never left the series.

[lovejuice]

this one is so hard to say yay or nay. it's the total opposite of X3. that movie suffers from having too much story, this one from having none. X3 is a bland, but capable, movie overboard. this one is horrible most of the time with some really exceptional moments.
i will say the climax with deadpool is the best scene in the entire series.

[Dukefrukem]

this one is so hard to say yay or nay. it's the total opposite of X3. that movie suffers from having too much story, this one from having none. X3 is a bland, but capable, movie overboard. this one is horrible most of the time with some really exceptional moments.

i will say the climax with deadpool is the best scene in the entire series.

I dunno, when Jean appeared in the third movie again in the house with Magneto and Professor X. That was pretty awesome.

[Stay Puft]

You do realize Star Trek is going to suck, right?

Have you read the footage descriptions?


Star Trek (J.J. Abrams, 2009) - 8


:)

Haven't seen Star Trek yet, I've just been reading through the thread since I got back from seeing Wolverine.

[Stay Puft]

I just noticed a few moments in that trailer aren't in the movie, and seeing as it's been determined that the theatrical cut is no different from the workprint aside from effects and score, I now feel a lot more comfortable saying the movie definitely sucks.

Hmmm. I just watched that trailer and I remember every single shot from the movie except maybe two. I haven't seen the workprint, but your longer review of it that you posted earlier definitely sounds like the movie I watched in theatres. It's disappointing, it's a mess, the action is anything but exciting... so much of it feels like wasted opportunities, and also a bit redundant.

Why more origin stories? I think I'm just getting really tired of this trend in general. I started to tune this movie out after about half an hour and just tried to derive some superficial thrills from the experience. That didn't work much, either.

[Ivan Drago]

And this is not as good as the last film. It's not that much of an insult because I'm the only apparent person on Earth who actually liked X-Men 3.

I liked X-Men 3. It's awesome fun and nothing more. As far as the campy moments go, the first two films have plenty of those as well. How people find it offensive is beyond me.

Anyway, this was a severe disappointment. Bad CGI, bad writing, and the best things about the movie - Deadpool and Gambit...well I didn't think he was that bad - had less screentime than WILL.I.FUCKING.AM.

[Dukefrukem]

I liked X-Men 3. It's awesome fun and nothing more. As far as the campy moments go, the first two films have plenty of those as well. How people find it offensive is beyond me.

Anyway, this was a severe disappointment. Bad CGI, bad writing, and the best things about the movie - Deadpool and Gambit...well I didn't think he was that bad - had less screentime than WILL.I.FUCKING.AM.

Haha. Will wasn't that bad of an actor actually. I was pleasantly impressed. That must be the rapper thing now; First Snoop, Ice Cube/Tea, Mos Def.. .now Will.

[number8]

First Snoop? Excuse me? This guy isn't happy with that statement:

http://www.dhadm.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/will-smith.jpg

[Dukefrukem]

Throw him on the list.

[megladon8]

Wasn't too good. Wasn't an utter abomination, either.

It really needed, like, an actual story. Characters move from place to place with a vague sense of some narrative, but it felt like the film's script was probably 10 pages long, consisting of just about every cliché action movie line there is.

They went a little too far with some of the action ridiculousness, too. Parts of it felt reminiscent of Wanted's totally disregard for any sense of a grounded reality. I mean, I'm all for lots of imagination, but there's a very clear line between imagination and retardation, and that line was crossed.

And the uneven CGI was strange, because it seemed like some of the very simple stuff was the stuff that looked the worst. There are some complex explosions and energy bursts that look fantastic...then Wolverine looks at his claws in front of a mirror and it looks like shit. That was weird.

Long story short, I had fun watching it, I would be lying if I said otherwise. But it really is bad, and features none of what made the previous three films so great - character. Total lack of thematic subtlety aside, the X-Men films (particularly the first two - yes, I went there) had strong characters. This one doesn't really have that much at all. We love Wolverine because we know him from the previous three films, but nothing is really added at all.

[EyesWideOpen]

I have it sitting here from netflix so I'll have to force myself to watch it this weekend.

[Scar]

In regards to Sx's post from a while back:

Wraith's gun is a G36K, w/ a grenade launcher, and, yep, it wasn't around at the time of the movie.

One that I noticed right away was Colt 733 Wolverine was carrying in Nam. Its the shorter M16 w/ adjustable stock, also not around.

The first humvees weren't set to be delivered until '85.

The machine gun on the helicopter is firing at a far, far, far too slow of a rate. It sounds like an M60, (like what Victor was shooting out the side of the copter in Nam). The minigun should sound more like a constant buzz.

With that said, I rather enjoyed the movie.

[megladon8]

I don't think it was supposed to be '79. They didn't really say a specific date, did they? It just showed Wolvie and Victor at that last little battle clip, then said "six years later".

In X2, Stryker said it was 15 years ago that he had put the adamantium in Wolverine's body. And the trilogy of films took place "in the near future".

So unless they already fucked up their own timeline, it's very possible that the stuff in Wolverine took place in the '90s or later.

[number8]

...they already fucked up their own timeline...

megladon8, COOOME ON DOOOOOOOWN!

[EyesWideOpen]

What a watered down fucking movie. How do you manage to make a Wolverine movie and not have a drop of blood anywhere? There was more blood in any 5 second scene of the videogame based on the movie then in the actual film. Most of the Harry Potter films have more blood!

[megladon8]

I don't care that there was no blood. It was still mega-violent.

I just didn't like that a lot of the action felt like I was watching Wanted again, which is exactly what I was hoping it wouldn't be like.

[EyesWideOpen]

I don't care that there was no blood. It was still mega-violent.

I just didn't like that a lot of the action felt like I was watching Wanted again, which is exactly what I was hoping it wouldn't be like.

I wouldn't in a million years call it mega-violent. There was a lot of cartoony action scenes of people bouncing around and falling over but that was it.

[megladon8]

I wouldn't in a million years call it mega-violent. There was a lot of cartoony action scenes of people bouncing around and falling over but that was it.


It was violence.

Regardless of how cartoony it was, the movie had no plot because it went from place to place to watch people beat and kill each other.