Fast and Furious 6 (Justin Lin)

[Morris Schæffer]

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/fast-and-furious-6-poster-sung-kang-gal-gadot.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1905041/?ref_=hm_inth_t1

[Morris Schæffer]

The humour is merely okay, the scenes with Rodriguez are arguably the weakest link and it has the obligatory race scene that this franchise no longer truly needs, but goddamn this movie delivers on its title and then some. I'd even go as far as saying that Justin Lin is now one of the foremost action directors around. Despite the chaos and mayhem, the action is remarkably coherent and despite the evident use of some CGI, it all feels and looks real, tangible, bone-crunchingly exciting. There's one eye-rolling moment of action lunacy towards the end that beggars belief and that nearly undid the entire bridge scene for me, but not quite thankfully. As for the surprise cameo at the end, I knew it was coming, but Stark and friends eating shoarma ain't got nuttin' on this mofo.

In terms of sheer adrenalin-charged action spectacle, this may be the flick to beat this year.

[Skitch]

Spoiler the cameo, I want to know! Looking forward to seeing this.

[Morris Schæffer]

Spoiler the cameo, I want to know! Looking forward to seeing this.

Jason Statham is the brother of the villain and kills Han and will be the heavy in part 7 looking for revenge against Torreto

[Skitch]

YEEEEEES! Awesome.

[wigwam]

:|

[Morris Schæffer]

I disagree that the action was well-directed, it felt monotonous and shapelessly busybody and like the non-action scenes, implausible, dependent on cheap cheats, and witless. I liked the 5th one and look forward to the next one but this was a horrible movie and I wish I hadn't seen it.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to say you like the fifth one, but hate this one and yet look forward to the next one. I will say that the action scenes have become even more elaborate and thus possibly, to some viewers, including myself more chaotic than in Fast Five. That said, given the mayhem on display, I was nevertheless impressed with Lin's direction. Also, I'm sure the finale was shot in darkness to mask some of the CGI used, but I still thought it was coherent.

[Sxottlan]

Completely ridiculous, but fun for the most part. I'd rank this behind the first and fifth films and ahead of the third and fourth film. Never saw the second film.

That acrobatic maneuver on the bridge had everyone in the theater laughing.


Also, I'm sure the finale was shot in darkness to mask some of the CGI used, but I still thought it was coherent.

Well that and the fact that they needed to cover up that they were filming on the same stretch of runway over and over again. Seriously, that must have been a 30 mile runway. That massive plane lands and never turns around. It literally keeps going straight. They board the plane, fight the bad guys, and bring down the plane and only then do they reach the end of the runway. After chasing the plane for 20 minutes.

Also, Toretto versus the Transporter?! I'm on board for that. But what an bizarro exit for Han.

[ciaoelor]

Jason Statham is the brother of the villain and kills Han and will be the heavy in part 7 looking for revenge against Torreto

I guessed that :) Why did I guess that?

[Morris Schæffer]

Completely ridiculous, but fun for the most part. I'd rank this behind the first and fifth films and ahead of the third and fourth film. Never saw the second film.

That acrobatic maneuver on the bridge had everyone in the theater laughing.



Well that and the fact that they needed to cover up that they were filming on the same stretch of runway over and over again. Seriously, that must have been a 30 mile runway. That massive plane lands and never turns around. It literally keeps going straight. They board the plane, fight the bad guys, and bring down the plane and only then do they reach the end of the runway. After chasing the plane for 20 minutes.

Also, Toretto versus the Transporter?! I'm on board for that. But what an bizarro exit for Han.

Also, the cops in the London Underground must be the most useless idiots in the world. There's this huge fight, but other than those three cops in the beginning, there's no support of any kind. At the end of the Han/Tyrese vs. Asian tussle, there's a cop scurrying out of the frame who must have though he was getting too old for this shit.:D

[Rowland]

Opening night with a packed urban audience was definitely the way to see this. If the action was just a little cleaner and The Rock had been dripping with sweat in every scene like he was in the fifth one, I may have liked this even more.

[Skitch]

I watched Fast Five last night for the first time since the theater. Totally ridiculous but completely fun flick. I had to go to special features to see how they made that final chase with the safe. Hardcore work put into that.

[Henry Gale]

Ahaha I'm not sure the last time I've seen more showings sold out straight through the day than today at both my local theatres. Luckily I checked online first.

I guess with something like The Avengers, theatres expect it to do gangbusters so they schedule a showing every 20-30 minutes. They clearly did not see this coming.

[Sven]

I disagree that the action was well-directed, it felt monotonous and shapelessly busybody and like the non-action scenes, implausible, dependent on cheap cheats, and witless. I liked the 5th one and look forward to the next one but this was a horrible movie and I wish I hadn't seen it.

This is such a bizarre knee-jerking, especially with your admittance for feeling fondly about the fifth.

Good film.

[DavidSeven]

I just watched 4 and 5. I'm looking forward to this.

4 was pretty bad. Hardly any good character moments, and the final set-piece is a dimly lit CGI mess. Pretty standard mid-tier blockbuster hackwork.

Now 5... that was unreasonably good. Seriously. Most ridiculous movie ever. But also, best most ridiculous movie ever.

[Morris Schæffer]

I just watched 4 and 5. I'm looking forward to this.

4 was pretty bad. Hardly any good character moments, and the final set-piece is a dimly lit CGI mess. Pretty standard mid-tier blockbuster hackwork.

That entire tunnel chase was an incoherent blur. Let alone that it was dimly lit, the finale of F&F6 is kinda dark also, but it was so cramped that there was no room for ingenuity. Just blurry things crashing into more blurry things and exploding.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://i.imgur.com/pod7kph.jpg

[Sven]

What that poster is not factoring into account is the concept of cinematic time dilation. All of the scenes that are cross-cut are happening simultaneously. It's still an amusingly long runway, but calculating shenanigans is sillier than the sequence itself.

[plain]

enjoyed it well enough, though it didn't feel nearly as cohesive or as well paced as five. does contain a better villain, but there's a fair deal of just nothing happening here pertaining to the narrative (why was paul walker put in jail again?). but as a whole, there's some good stuff, mainly the bridge set-piece. there's also a phenomenal half second reaction shot of vin diesel after the rock clotheslines tattoo guy.

[Thirdmango]

Big Yay for the action scenes or more specifically the first 10-20 minutes and the last 45 minutes.

Nay to the overall length, cut out a bunch of the story in the middle and it would have been the best.

As a for instance the entire going back to America sub-plot, just take out that entire sequence.

[wigwam]

Seems like a bit of a stretch to say you like the fifth one, but hate this one and yet look forward to the next one.
action scenes [...] more chaotic than in Fast Five.
mayhem on display [...] was coherent.

Why's that a stretch? I think other people who aren't liking this one are saying the same thing, right? But even if they aren't, the fact that there's a different director taking over (and the post-credits new villain reveal - which I didn't stay for but read about) makes me just as excited for the next one as the last one made me for this one.

My main complaint was the monotony of the action: lots of moving parts all doing the same thing for the entire scene, whereas in 5 there were builds and crescendos and peaks and space to the action. This time there were too many elements to spend time on any of that, it was all action all the time = monotonous

Then there was also too much illogic like the secret standby snipers (the 2nd one woulda taken the 1st one out, duh) and the boring villain (and the fact that there was an outside villain instead of the cat&mouse villain-lessness of the last one which is much more interesting and fresh) (but i'm open to another villain next time only cuz of the casting) speaking of which: I love that this villain is specifically anti-family code in this one but his brother is obviously not :lol:

[number8]

Marvelous set pieces, but it's much closer in tone to the 4th movie than the 5th, so that was kind of a drag. That tag, though... 7 should be amazing, which follows my theory that this franchise is the reverse Star Trek in terms of quality.

[number8]

In the tunnel chase in London, Joe Taslim said "Vegh, smash them" in Indonesian but for some reason the subtitle said "Vegh, I need your help."

I was oddly fixated on that.

[Morris Schæffer]

Marvelous set pieces, but it's much closer in tone to the 4th movie than the 5th, so that was kind of a drag. That tag, though... 7 should be amazing, which follows my theory that this franchise is the reverse Star Trek in terms of quality.

Maybe it's hard to tell, but do you feel James Wan is a good replacement?

[wigwam]

really great espisode of How Did This Get Made podcast on this movie, so funny, made me want to go see it again

[Morris Schæffer]

Hang on a minute! F&F6 takes place before Tokyo Drift?!

[number8]

Hang on a minute! F&F6 takes place before Tokyo Drift?!

...How were you not aware of this? 4-6 is a prequel trilogy.

[Dukefrukem]

Obligatory Screen Junkies post by me


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOTk1Gi5zoA

[Morris Schæffer]

...How were you not aware of this? 4-6 is a prequel trilogy.

Well eh, I guess It never occurred to me that this franchise needed to go the prequel route and I forgot what happened to Han in Tokio Drift. Totally forgot the final moments of part 6 were in fact literally scenes from the third installment.

[Thirdmango]

(and the post-credits new villain reveal - which I didn't stay for but read about)

You must have really disliked the movie and got out of there fast because it wasn't even post credits, it was just post Director Justin Lin and then boom there it is. People in my theater weren't even able to start getting up before the new scene hit.

[Morris Schæffer]

You must have really disliked the movie and got out of there fast because it wasn't even post credits, it was just post Director Justin Lin and then boom there it is. People in my theater weren't even able to start getting up before the new scene hit.

Same in my theater. You couldn't leave without missing the villain reveal unless you were running or teleported out of there.

[number8]

Yeah, people were still queuing at the aisles when the scene started playing. What was funny to me is that half of those people didn't care and kept walking out anyway. Maybe they thought, "Oh it's from Tokyo Drift, seen it already."

[number8]

By the way, finally a summer blockbuster where the villain getting caught at the end of the second act was not part of his masterplan all along.

[Morris Schæffer]

By the way, finally a summer blockbuster where the villain getting caught at the end of the second act was not part of his masterplan all along.

This movie just keeps on giving eh? :D

I gotta ask though The mercedes crashing into Han in Tokio Drift was just an innocent commuter or was this always Lin's plan to have the villain revealed seven years later? Which, well goddamn, seems a bit of a stretch.

[wigwam]

everything's a stretch w/ you MSchaeff... limber up, bro!!!

[number8]

I've found myself replying to everyone recently with "You're team muscle, right? Don't make me come over there and make you team pussy."

[Lazlo]

I enjoyed this up to a point but my massive expectations coming off the perfect economy of Five probably hampered my experience. Also, they overestimated how much I was interested in these characters' emotional interactions when really all I want is for them to crack wise and drive cars. The movie's quite bloated in a lot of places and the pace really suffers. But there are some really cool sequences (tank chase is the standout) and enough of that charm left over from the last installment to make this worthwhile. Just not the lean action thriller I was hoping for.

[Henry Gale]

Oh my god, this is the most insanely over-the-top, frenetically ridiculous movie I've seen in a long time....

... and I loved every minute of it. Easily my favourite out of the whole franchise (and I like 3 and 5 more than I like to admit).

I have no idea how James Wan is going to top this, even with this one's credit-scene secret weapon.

[EyesWideOpen]

So glad I went and saw this before my vacation. My love for weird F&F continuity knows no bounds so when that end scene came up I was giddy.

Lucas Black & Bow Wow in 7? Please!!

[Ezee E]

The action sequences at the end are highly enjoyable, but I couldn't tell you what the story is about at all. What were they doing with the chip anyway? Why was Paul Walker in jail? It seemed like it was for nothing in the end anyway.

But those last two action sequences are better then anything out of Iron Man 3. Implausible, but very fun to watch. It gets a little ridiculous when it ends, but was to be expected. Lin actually gets a little bit of emotion with the use of slow motion and a major character dying. I wish action movies would do more of this.

No idea what to expect out of 7.

I used Moviepass for this. Was pretty simple. Think I'll like it a lot, just really wanting Landmark to start using it.

[Morris Schæffer]

Walker went to jail for a reason allright, but it's a scene that probably could have been left out with a little bit of creative writing. As for the chip, MacGuffin. No?

[EyesWideOpen]

The action sequences at the end are highly enjoyable, but I couldn't tell you what the story is about at all. What were they doing with the chip anyway? Why was Paul Walker in jail? It seemed like it was for nothing in the end anyway.



The chip was the last piece Shaw needed to build the bomb he was working on. Walker's character went to jail because he was the one responsible for Letty working undercover for Braga. Once he finds out she's alive it brings back his feelings of guilt and he goes to find out from Braga how she is still alive and why is she working for Shaw.

[Morris Schæffer]

The chip was the last piece Shaw needed to build the bomb he was working on. Walker's character went to jail because he was the one responsible for Letty working undercover for Braga. Once he finds out she's alive it brings back his feelings of guilt and he goes to find out from Braga how she is still alive and why is she working for Shaw.

Didn't Walker also needed to find out Shaw's next play? I believe at the end of the jail sequence Walker discovers that Shaw's next move would involve something happening in Spain.

That he found out some superfluous details about Letty was, I guess, a nice bonus.

[number8]

Didn't Walker also needed to find out Shaw's next play? I believe at the end of the jail sequence Walker discovers that Shaw's next move would involve something happening in Spain.

That he found out some superfluous details about Letty was, I guess, a nice bonus.

Nope. The team went to Spain because one of Shaw's men got caught sabotaging the Spanish military base and the base called Hobbs. Literally all Brian found out in the prison was how Letty and Shaw hooked up. I chuckled when Brian's old FBI buddy said, "This had all better be worth it."

[EyesWideOpen]

Don't get me wrong it's stupid but yeah Brian only goes to prison to find out how Letty survived and got with Shaw for his own clarification since he feels responsible. That is why when he comes back and goes to tell Torretto what he learned Torretto tells him that information is just for him and he doesn't need to hear it.

[number8]

I rewatched Tokyo Drift last night. They actually did a really good job making sure nothing in the 6th contradicts it.

Han seems really sad and soulful about something throughout the movie, but it's never revealed why. I think Lin and Kang did that previously just as a sly reference to the ending of Better Luck Tomorrow, but now it makes more sense within the context of the franchise.

It makes a lot of sense that Han would say these things:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyz2NhxdObM

There's also a scene where he meets two hot girls at an intersection and he flirts with them to get their numbers, but doesn't look happy at all about being able to do it. Like he did it just to do it, but he's not really interested in the girls.

Kind of a sad/cool callback (or call forward?) that Han and DK's motto together is "This is what we do," which is Giselle's last words to Han. I was actually pretty impressed by that.

The retcon of Jason Statham killing him feels necessary, I think, because otherwise it makes little sense that an international criminal who has saved the world from terrorist mercenaries dies running away from a two-bit yakuza wannabe.

[transmogrifier]

I can't believe that this is going to make more than Star Trek (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/). What the hell happened to this franchise? It's steadily snowballed into a cultural phenomenon.

And I've still only seen the first, and thought it was boring.

[DavidSeven]

I can't believe that this is going to make more than Star Trek (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/). What the hell happened to this franchise? It's steadily snowballed into a cultural phenomenon.

And I've still only seen the first, and thought it was boring.

Fast Five happened. Legitimately great movie. Plus, The Rock.

[Skitch]

I've come to think of 1-3 akin to the Lucas' prequel trilogy.

[number8]

I read an interesting article on EW last month that assesses the fact that this is the only mainstream franchise that is truly racially diverse (there's only one white guy on the team, and he's an unmemorable sidekick) among a sea of white superhero franchises, and how that seems to resonate well with both the American minority and international audiences.

[Raiders]

I read an interesting article on EW last month that assesses the fact that this is the only mainstream franchise that is truly racially diverse (there's only one white guy on the team, and he's an unmemorable sidekick) among a sea of white superhero franchises, and how that seems to resonate well with both the American minority and international audiences.

"Unmemorable" seems a bit harsh (I haven't seen this one), but I do think it is interesting how the last film and apparently this one as well have really marginalized him. Now with The Rock, who needs Paul Walker to spar with Diesel?

It's true though, this is a very eager-to-please franchise, from its racial equality to its laundry list of attractive stars and repeating love stories to mix into the action, which only escalates to ridiculous degrees.

[Ezee E]

Having the Asian guy NOT be the hacker is kinda nice too.

I never noticed the diversity, interesting. Although the female roles in this movie were pretty relegated in my opinion.

[Dukefrukem]

Just want to throw this out there, not to be judged I hope, but there's a 162 GB EURO torrent with all six movies including an extended version of F&F6 with tons of extras. F&F6 doesn't get released until December 10th.

[Dukefrukem]

Ignoring the fact that the ending scene took place on a 30 mile runway, and the plot twist was obvious, and the survival story was meh, and Ludicrous is now the best actor in this franchise, and I'm still wicked wicked attracted to Gina Carano.... and there's a fucking tank...this was still a pretty stupid movie.

edit:

[Henry Gale]

Ignoring the fact that the ending scene took place on a 30 mile runway, and the plot twist was lame, and the survival story was poor, and Ludicrous is now the best actor in this franchise, and I'm still wicked wicked attracted to Gina Carano.... this was still a pretty stupid movie.

And this amounts to it being bad, how?

[Dukefrukem]

And this amounts to it being bad, how?

I said ignoring all that... (plus I changed two words)...it's still stupid. It's just so stupidly ridiculously stupid. I can't get over how stupid it is. Like, Fast 5 was stupid squared and this is stupid cubed.

[Dukefrukem]

Holy shit. I Just went to the first page to read the comments and there's a infographic on how long the runway is. I was 1 mile off from my guess just by watching....

[Dukefrukem]

By the way, finally a summer blockbuster where the villain getting caught at the end of the second act was not part of his masterplan all along.

I should probably give this a YAY just for that reason alone.

[Henry Gale]

I said ignoring all that... (plus I changed two words)...it's still stupid. It's just so stupidly ridiculously stupid. I can't get over how stupid it is. Like, Fast 5 was stupid squared and this is stupid cubed.

I guess I mean the things in those observations only make it even better for me. The series seems to become progressively more assured technically with each film's staging, choreography and coverage of its action and even more mundane scenes, and yet that sort of intelligence doesn't influence the scripts' hilariously raising ridiculousness levels, and no one involved really seems to know, and really, why should they care? Physics, time dilation, international law and jurisdictions are not terms these movies seem to know, and one I don't want anyone to teach them.

I love Fast & Furious 6 and ironic love it is not.

Does it matter if the filmmakers' and cast's intentions for what they want the film to be don't at all end up being how I view it if I enjoy it all the same? Possibly even more than if it was a strong, smartly plotted film that made sense on anything resembling a thematic or story level with even mildly relateable characters with discernibly measurable performances fuelling them. But then again, that doesn't sound like a Fast & Furious movie I'm interested in.

Fast 7 might be one of my most anticipated things of next year, and if it dials back and grounds itself in any sort of reality, I'll be disappointed as fuck.

[Irish]

I said ignoring all that... (plus I changed two words)...it's still stupid. It's just so stupidly ridiculously stupid. I can't get over how stupid it is. Like, Fast 5 was stupid squared and this is stupid cubed.

:D

Two things:

1) Ludacris has always been the best actor in the series. Guy is underrated.

2) A huge part of the entertainment value I get from these movies is that they're "stupid." They are pure fantasy. They don't take themselves too seriously. Most of the actors play it that way, too.

[Morris Schæffer]

I get a kick out of how tangible, and hard-hitting the action is in these last installments, and some of the earlier ones. Yeah, the runway is pretty long, but at least they used all that space to craft what I can only call one of the most ingenious and exciting action climaxes in quite some time. The previous one did that too. I didn't care whether cars could actually tow vaults of that magnitude, the action was bone-splintering intense and in your face. Well, my face.

The final bit on the bridge, now that was stupid. A real pity too because 99% of the bridge scene is amazing.

[Dukefrukem]

I totally get why people like this series. It's just not for me. I mean, I've been interested enough to watch all 6 right? But 1 viewing is about as far as I'll go. If I was flipping by HBO and the tank scene was about to begin- I'd probably watch that scene.

Those effects were pretty damn good. Was the tank crushing all the cars CGI? IF so that was really impressively done.

[Dukefrukem]

I get a kick out of how tangible, and hard-hitting the action is in these last installments, and some of the earlier ones. Yeah, the runway is pretty long, but at least they used all that space to craft what I can only call one of the most ingenious and exciting action climaxes in quite some time. The previous one did that too. I didn't care whether cars could actually tow vaults of that magnitude, the action was bone-splintering intense and in your face. Well, my face.

The final bit on the bridge, now that was stupid. A real pity too because 99% of the bridge scene is amazing.

I actually think the climax in 5 was much better than 6.

[Morris Schæffer]

I actually think the climax in 5 was much better than 6.

I can see that. I thought it was great also. Perhaps the plane bit was too elaborate and the mind is always thinking there's, relatively speaking, too much Cgi involved whereas the finale of part 5 looked practical in every way.

[Grouchy]

Heh, this was great. These movies basically re-define stupid fun.

One bit that was too stupid for me, though, was Paul Walker risking prison to talk to Braga. Couldn't The Rock do that, since he's a government agent? I guess the answer would be that "it's personal".

I haven't seen Tokyo Drift for some reason, so I missed out on the retro-continuity. Was kind of in love with Gal Gadot, so that's a shame.