Star Wars: Live Action TV Series (Favreau)

[max314]

Thought it best not to put this in the TV section in case of a title change, and felt its "upcoming" status sufficient justification to stick it here until it's out. Mods are free to correct me, of course, and to relocate it thusly.

CLICK HERE (http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/trending-blog/star-wars-rebels-to-air-in-2014-1) for the salient article.

[Dukefrukem]

So apparently there may be some standalone TV series coming to Netflix.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/72539?utm_source=full-feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_term=coaxial&utm_campaign=1310_RSS

[Dukefrukem]

Disney is revisiting this now, will likely be a staple on their streaming service.

http://deadline.com/2017/11/disney-star-wars-monsters-inc-tv-series-1202205326/

[Skitch]

DAMMIT.

[Ivan Drago]

I love the news of the standalone movie trilogy from Rian Johnson...


....but FFS, I don't want another streaming service.

[Dukefrukem]

I love the news of the standalone movie trilogy from Rian Johnson...


....but FFS, I don't want another streaming service.

You won't need another one. Just cancel Netflix and move over to Disney. Netflix won't have much left worth paying $15 a month for.

[number8]

If my choices come down to a streaming service of Star Wars and Marvel content vs a streaming service of Master of None, Peaky Blinders, Dear White People, Bojack Horseman, and GLOW, the idea that I would give up all the latter for the former sounds like a nonsense idea.

[Dukefrukem]

If my choices come down to a streaming service of Star Wars and Marvel content vs a streaming service of Master of None, Peaky Blinders, Dear White People, Bojack Horseman, and GLOW, the idea that I would give up all the latter for the former sounds like a nonsense idea.

You're forgetting the inevitable Fox purchase, which WILL happen. So.... add every FX series, X-files, X-men, Avatar films, Alien films...

[number8]

Fox and FX shows are all on Hulu, which is 1/3 owned by Disney and 1/3 owned by Fox. If Disney buys Fox, they'll own 2/3 of Hulu.

[Skitch]

The only thing I can conceive of that would make me want to subscribe to another service is a live action Star Wars show.

Netflix as more than enough quality original programming to remain a subscriber to. You're being a little specific to just your tastes, Duke (which is fine if that's what your into). For myself Netflix also has a wealth of anime.

[Skitch]

And I will have to have an answer to the question of "will there be ads" before I even consider another service. I can't believe people pay for Hulu and still have to watch ads. I cut the cord to escape fucking ads.

[number8]

I don't get ads on Hulu. There are two tiers of membership.

[Skitch]

I've heard. I'd need to see price points for the Disney thing. I'm expecting it to be more than other services.

[Skitch]

I've heard. I'd need to see price points for the Disney thing. I'm expecting it to be more than other services.

Wrong again, I guess. lol

Disney streaming service to cost much less than Netflix subscription. (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/disney-streaming-service-to-cost-much-less-than-a-netflix-subscription-268?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=JoBloFB)

[Dukefrukem]

Wrong again, I guess. lol

Disney streaming service to cost much less than Netflix subscription. (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/disney-streaming-service-to-cost-much-less-than-a-netflix-subscription-268?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=JoBloFB)

We'll see if that holds up. Because $8 a month sounds lovely. I spend more on coffee every day.

[Dukefrukem]

Jon Favreau To Write And Produce The First Ever Live-Action STAR WARS TV Series

http://www.starwars.com/news/jon-favreau-to-executive-produce-write-live-action-star-wars-series

[Sycophant]

Jon Favreau To Write And Produce The First Ever Live-Action STAR WARS TV Series

http://www.starwars.com/news/jon-favreau-to-executive-produce-write-live-action-star-wars-series

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m600/fishbulb2007/ad2.jpg

[megladon8]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sycophant again.

[Dukefrukem]

Jon Favreau To Write And Produce The First Ever Live-Action STAR WARS TV Series

http://www.starwars.com/news/jon-favreau-to-executive-produce-write-live-action-star-wars-series

To take place 7 years of Return of the Jedi

[Ezee E]

To take place 7 years of Return of the Jedi

So like, ten before Force Awakens?

[Dukefrukem]

So like, ten before Force Awakens?

Dunno but that would make Kylo 17. Is that really the case?

[Skitch]

How old is Kylo in FA? I assumed like early 20s.

[Henry Gale]

I always took The Force Awakens to take place as far along from Return of the Jedi as the movie was for us. (~32 years)

So to easily track it, let's refer to when RotJ took place as the year it was released: 1983. This series takes place in "1990", so let's say Ben Solo / Kylo Ren is born that year. We get the sense that he's a teenager when he turns to the dark side, so say he's 17 then, then by TFA and TLJ he is in his mid-20s.

And not that it matters but Driver was 30 when he filmed The Force Awakens.

EDIT: Okay literally right after I posted this, I looked elsewhere online and saw everyone who take the novels and other materials now branded as canon saying that Kylo was apparently born the year after the Battle of Endor sooooo.. he's about 30.

[Dukefrukem]

Jon Favreau To Write And Produce The First Ever Live-Action STAR WARS TV Series

http://www.starwars.com/news/jon-favreau-to-executive-produce-write-live-action-star-wars-series

Will cost $10 mil an episode?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/business/media/disney-streaming-service-ricky-strauss.html

[Ezee E]

Will cost $10 mil an episode?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/business/media/disney-streaming-service-ricky-strauss.html

I'd have figured Game of Thrones budget if they're going 10 episodes. Seems about right.

[Morris Schæffer]

It's called The Mandalorian.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/jon-favreau-star-wars-series-called-mandalorian/

[Dukefrukem]

It's called The Mandalorian.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/jon-favreau-star-wars-series-called-mandalorian/

https://starwarsblog.starwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/the-mandalorian-1024x809.jpg

[Henry Gale]

The most interesting info yet for me (https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/star-wars-the-mandalorian-directors-first-look-1202969766/):


Dave Filoni, who has worked on “Star Wars: The Clone Wars” and “Star Wars Rebels,” will direct the first episode of the series. “Thor: Ragnarok” director Taika Waititi, Bryce Dallas Howard, “Dope’s” Rick Famuyiwa, and Deborah Chow (“Jessica Jones”) will direct additional episodes.

As previously announced, Jon Favreau will write and executive produce the series.

[Skitch]

WTF this is filming already?

[Morris Schæffer]

Pedro Pascal is the lead.

[Morris Schæffer]

This will have Giancarlo Esposito, Carl Weathers and Werner Herzog. Like, the fuck?! :D:cool:

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/giancarlo-esposito-carl-weathers-join-mandalorian/

[Ezee E]

This will have Giancarlo Esposito, Carl Weathers and Werner Herzog. Like, the fuck?! :D:cool:

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/giancarlo-esposito-carl-weathers-join-mandalorian/

Well, sign me up for a month to see this show.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Esposito? Weathers? Herzog?

Baby, we got a stew going!

[Ezee E]

Esposito? Weathers? Herzog?

Baby, we got a stew going!

Nice one.

[Irish]

Esposito? Weathers? Herzog?

Reminded of Siskel (again!) --- his old bit about "Is this movie more interesting than a documentary of the actors having lunch together?"

Fuck Star Wars.. I wanna see "My Lunch with Werner," as told by Carl Weathers.

[Morris Schæffer]

Esposito? Weathers? Herzog?

Baby, we got a stew going!

Great!

[Ivan Drago]

Yeah, as soon as I was out, Disney pulled me back in.

[Dukefrukem]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/star_wars/star-wars-the-mandalorian-jon-favreau-shares-a-new-image-confirming-that-ig-88-will-appear-a165496

I would be more excited if it were 8T-88 making an appearance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdEthjXZg_Y

[Morris Schæffer]

https://youtu.be/eQzVs7pQVUQ

[Wryan]

Can't see what Morris posted anymore, but presumably it's this sneakily filmed video from that Disney event. Promo and footage of The Mandalorian.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqyaFTR1cA

[Dukefrukem]

Yeh that's the same thing that Morris posted, only it was the actual video and not cammed.

[Wryan]

Ah, that's why they probably got it taken down a few weeks ago. Hopefully they'll release it again in better quality soon.

[Ezee E]

Looking forward to this more than Episode IX.

[Irish]

Looking forward to this more than Episode IX.

Likewise.

I really dig that actor and I don't think Favreau has ever steered me wrong.

[Dukefrukem]

Likewise.

I really dig that actor and I don't think Favreau has ever steered me wrong.

I'm worried he was a bit overworked while working on this and the Lion King at the same time.

[Peng]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECqBgapU8AAOAlJ?format=jpg&name=large

[megladon8]

Awful.

[Ezee E]

Have a feeling that will be the best thing about the new era of Star Wars.

[Peng]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOC8E8z_ifw

Herzog!

[Skitch]

Herzog is so damn good.

[Grouchy]

Hahah bring that shit on.

[Dukefrukem]

I mean... of course I'm going to watch it.

[Irish]

Trailer is okay. Little bored by the bounter hunter angle and the Fett-style armor.

I really hope they do something different, that it's not just a western shoot-em-up with ray guns.

I'm also at the point where I roll my eyes whenever I see Herzog. His appearances come across as a weird form of pandering.

ETA: Fingers crossed that Canderous Ordo gets a mention.

[megladon8]

Trailer is okay. Little bored by the bounter hunter angle and the Fett-style armor.

I really hope they do something different, that it's not just a western shoot-em-up with ray guns.

I'm also at the point where I roll my eyes whenever I see Herzog. His appearances come across as a weird form of pandering.

ETA: Fingers crossed that Canderous Ordo gets a mention.


Pfft...what a nerd.

[Irish]

Pfft...what a nerd.

Ordo could beat the ever living shit out of both Fett and Fett Junior without breaking a sweat. Alls I'm saying. :D

[megladon8]

Ordo could beat the ever living shit out of both Fett and Fett Junior without breaking a sweat. Alls I'm saying. :D

Whatever nerd.

Go roll a D20.

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Herzog financed a whole movie from this acting fee. I support that sort of pandering.

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[Peng]

New poster

https://i.redd.it/halcq81li6p31.jpg

[Morris Schæffer]

Let's throw in some random tie fighters so there's no doubt this take place in that universe.

[Peng]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmI7WKrAtqs

[Dukefrukem]

Do I need to watch it?

[Irish]

It isn't significantly different from previous trailers.

But personally, I'm more interested in the TV show now than the movie.

[Skitch]

Do I need to watch it?

Worth it to see Bill Burr blazing blasters lmao

[Ezee E]

The show's casting choices has me so curious that I have to know.

[Wryan]

A brief selection of names for the characters so far:

Moff Gideon, Cara Dune, House Patron, Greef Carga and who knows what else. Ah those kooky SW names.

[Peng]

I just hope Herzog’s presence in the real show is as much as in the trailers. (My favorite touch is having him narrating both of them)

[megladon8]

Love seeing Bill Burr’s fans turn on him for appearing in this (since he’s been historically anti-nerd culture).

[Morris Schæffer]

I just hope Herzog’s presence in the real show is as much as in the trailers. (My favorite touch is having him narrating both of them)

Supposedly he's called Wolfgang Wienerschnitzel.

[Irish]

I seriously can not tell if Wryan and Morris are taking the piss with these Star Wars names or they're for real. :D

[Wryan]

Supposedly he's called Wolfgang Wienerschnitzel.

Weimar Wertmueller.

[Peng]

No wonder they didn't send out a screener, because that cliffhanger! Anyway, it feels like the pressure of being the showcase Disney+ series has them makes it as fast and eye-catching as possible to hook audience in, without much depth to the world or characters yet. But it looks great, has fun action (I'm such an easy target lol but that robot is delightful), and its casual (and expensive) word-building is lively and promising enough.

[Dukefrukem]

Does it look like Rogue One? Or Force Awakens?

[Dukefrukem]

Am I doing it wrong?

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[Irish]

Does it look like Rogue One? Or Force Awakens?

The creature / alien effects are top fucking notch. Generally, the production design is very very good. Some of the CGI around vehicles is a bit dodgy, but the show looks damn good. (It should; I heard they spent like $10 million an episode on this.)

[Irish]

Am I doing it wrong?

I noticed some shit disappearing (eg: episodes of "Star Wars Rebels") and after checking Reddit it seems like they're having major server issues.

[Dukefrukem]

I noticed some shit disappearing (eg: episodes of "Star Wars Rebels") and after checking Reddit it seems like they're having major server issues.

Ah ok. Just wanted to watch the intro while at work.

[Peng]

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[Irish]

No wonder they didn't send out a screener, because that cliffhanger! Anyway, it feels like the pressure of being the showcase Disney+ series has them makes it as fast and eye-catching as possible to hook audience in, without much depth to the world or characters yet. But it looks great, has fun action (I'm such an easy target lol but that robot is delightful), and its casual (and expensive) word-building is lively and promising enough.

Yeah, yours is a more generous take and I think it's better than mine all around.

You're right about the cliffhanger but I wish they'd gotten there sooner. (I was seriously bored by the multiple scenes of jargon-packed exposition.)

I hope it develops into something substantial.

Also, I thought this was fun: https://twitter.com/thebrianposehn/status/1194181716480389120

[Dukefrukem]

Funny that there is absolutely no mention of it on any disney account. Communication is key.

[Irish]

Also, for Duke, a list of all 4K HDR content: https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/111219-0100

All the Star Wars movies except "Solo" and "Last Jedi" are on there in full 4K HDR.

[Skitch]

Cmon yall...its launch day. If you didnt expect there to be issues, you're naive. That's normal for any platform or hardware launch. Relax.

[Irish]

TBH, I'd expect it from a second tier service but not from a worldwide, premium brand.

Like, Amazon, Apple, and Netflix are extremely good at making sure their shit plays everywhere without issue.

(But then, to also be fairer, I haven't had any problems with the app itself, as reported in that Variety article. I got booted off when I tried to connect this morning but other then that it's been perfect.)

[Skitch]

Yeah but Disney is the brand that will limit their physical media releases so they can charge more for them. They are monsters. They THRIVE on the idea that "we HAVE what you WANT, and you WILL pay for it, and we KNOW you will."

[Irish]

Well, to be fairest (haha) they're also not a tech company.

[Skitch]

True that too.

Also, this is such a massive launch, theres no way to predict tech issues. The only way this launches without a hitch is if it's a bomb.

[Dukefrukem]

Also, for Duke, a list of all 4K HDR content: https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/111219-0100

All the Star Wars movies except "Solo" and "Last Jedi" are on there in full 4K HDR.

I'm not a 4K guy. Unless I want to watch them all on my PC, which I would never do, all my TVs are just standard 1080p.

[Dukefrukem]

TBH, I'd expect it from a second tier service but not from a worldwide, premium brand.

Like, Amazon, Apple, and Netflix are extremely good at making sure their shit plays everywhere without issue.

(But then, to also be fairer, I haven't had any problems with the app itself, as reported in that Variety article. I got booted off when I tried to connect this morning but other then that it's been perfect.)

Totally agree here. I also think it's a huge miss not to have the app available until launch day. WTF is the reasoning behind that?

I checked all my TVs, Amazon Fire and phone and it wasn't available last night at 7PMish.

[Irish]

Totally agree here. I also think it's a huge miss not to have the app available until launch day. WTF is the reasoning behind that?

I checked all my TVs, Amazon Fire and phone and it wasn't available last night at 7PMish.

Yeah I was def surprised they didn't release the apps until the service was launched. Totally bizarre choice. If Skitch hadn't said anything, I woulda thought the Roku app was still MIA.

[Dukefrukem]

Irish is right. It does feel like being a galactic bounty hunter is super boring. Didn't care for the score at times either. Buy boy oh boy does Lucasfilm like to jackoff to itself watching space ships take off and land. That's like 10% of the 40 minute run-time. I rolled my eyes a few times surrounding the logic in some scenes; like, why land (presumably) a million pound space ship on an ice planet that ice monsters can come through the ice? Wouldn't the ship like, break through the ice and fall to the bottom? Are we on an ice planet with forced drama because we are sick of seeing desert planets? Well fast forward 30 minutes and we're on a desert planet where our hero(?) is forced to ride some slug monster like a horse, because why exactly? Your spaceship can't take you to the location they were heading? The only way to get to your destination was for this side-character to teach to you how to ride a slug?

So yeh, oof the writing...

and Goodbye, IG-11. We barely knew ya.

[Irish]

God, the ice thing didn't even occur to me.

Some of those scenes would have worked better if we could have seen Pascal's face.

I kept thinking of Clint Eastwood's taciturn Man with No Name and how much mileage Leone got from cutting to a close-up of that character just narrowing his goddamn eyes.

The helmet is a dumb idea anyway but the idea that Mandalorians don't take them off, even when alone with each other, is fucking ridiculous.

Pascal wasn't given any good dialogue, which matters when he's forced to basically be a voice actor for this role. The flat line readings didn't help, and lent the character no personality.

I really, really hope the don't keep this shit up for the full 8 episodes.

[Irish]

and Goodbye, IG-11. We barely knew ya.

I thought about it later and this scene would have been more enjoyable if that character was instead an HK-47 cameo.

[Skitch]

I'm glad I'm not getting this for another month. If I have to wait a week between episodes I would freak out.

[Irish]

I'm glad I'm not getting this for another month. If I have to wait a week between episodes I would freak out.

I thought of you when I clicked on the "originals" tab in the app. Outside "Mandalorian," they really didn't launch with much. A huge chunk of the Marvel movies aren't on the service yet, and of course none of the promised MCU tv shows.

The back catalog is huge, but unless you've been jonesing to watch "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes" or "Cinderella," there's no reason to jump on the service. You could even wait a bit longer for the kinks to get ironed out and more shows to be added.

[Skitch]

You could even wait a bit longer for the kinks to get ironed out....

I was just about to say, this is the other reason I'm fine waiting a bit.

Why the hell aren't the bulk of the Marvel movies on there? Thats odd.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm nitpicking the shit out of them.

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[Irish]

I'm nitpicking the shit out of them.

Reported. You love Disney so much this is like witnessing domestic violence in real time.

HOW COULD YOU DUKE HOW COULD YOU

[Skitch]

I watched that whole series when it was on netflix, it is sooo damn good.

[bac0n]

I actually rather enjoyed the first episode, how they've gone all-in on the space western theme. I totally geeked out when I caught a glimpse of Bossk? I totally saved proofs of purchase from my star wars figures to send in for a Bossk figure when i was a kid and later on IG-11 - IG-88 was one of my faves from Empire, and I thought how he double wielded his blasters all gunkata style was pretty flippin' sweet. My only gripe was that he met such an early end. I'd watch a show on his misadventures alone. Each episode would start with him initiating his self destruct sequence, and the entire episode is his sidekicks trying to get him to stop.

And to the point Irish made about why didn't The Mandalorian land closer to the badguy hideout:

1) He didn't have a precise location as to its whereabouts
2) landing closer could have given them warning to him coming.

At least he didn't land on the exact opposite side of the planet and had to take a submarine through the planet's core...

[Dukefrukem]

If you liked IG-88, what about 8t88?

Seriously if there are any Star Wars fans who haven't played Dark Forces 2, you are missing the fuck out. The CGI/Cut Scenes are incredible for a 90s game. AND the game lets you choose if you want to go light side or dark side and the cut scenes and game decisions reflect this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdEthjXZg_Y&t=93s

[Irish]

And to the point Irish made about why didn't The Mandalorian land closer to the badguy hideout:

That wasn't my post/point. It was Duke's.

[bac0n]

That wasn't my post/point. It was Duke's.

YOU WIN... THIS TIME, IRISH.

[Dukefrukem]

Ha. It's a little bit silly no? THe tracker can track a person through space but not when you're in a ship flying across the ground?

[Dukefrukem]

So Episode two is 28 minutes long. Seriously. And looks like we ARE gong down that path that we all thought from the first episode.

Anyone want to bet this lil Yoda shows up in Rise of Skywalker? Cuz no one is ever really gone.

[Irish]

So Episode two is 28 minutes long. Seriously. And looks like we ARE gong down that path that we all thought from the first episode.

It's a bad show. I'm surprised it has a sorta videogame structure. In the first episode, Boba Jr picks up the main quest and later turns in a chit and gets an armor upgrade. The second episode is a 30 minute long sidequest featuring hoary Star Wars cliches such as Jawas and big angry monsters.

Who thought it was a good idea to hire Favreau to write every episode?

[Skitch]

Who thought it was a good idea to hire Favreau to write every episode?
Marvel.

[DavidSeven]

The show looks damn good, but this is not going hold audiences by simply relying on obscenely expensive set pieces. The second episode was a waste of time. Is this show going to have any characters? Where are the women in this universe? I agree that they did themselves no favors by not allowing Pascal to remove the mask. The dialogue is shamefully bad. They are relying entirely on creature design to build engagement, and that's not going to be enough long term. Hopefully, the next episodes establish a better sense of character development.

[Dukefrukem]

Episode 3 gives us a little bit more about our main character's morals and values, but it still begins and ends as expected. It's also a generous 36 minutes long.

[amberlita]

Baby Yoda is adorable. Adorable. The rest is kind of dumb and boring, but I will return for Baby Yoda, because I am that kind of girl.

[Peng]

My favorite ep alongside the pilot, because it feels truly of expanding the world (and thanks in no small part to having Baby Yoda doing THINGS more than usual), although the biggest (and pleasant) surprise is seeing Bryce Dallas Howard in the end credit as director.

[Irish]

I liked it better than the previous episodes, but if they're trying to do the old-time-serial thing, I wish the runtimes were shorter.

They dick aroubd for 30+ minutes each time when really every episode is one story beat and one big (and badly staged) action scene.

Also, The Mandolorian himself should just never talk.

[Dukefrukem]

I liked it much better to. I want this to be the show. Baby Yoda and Mandolorian going from planet to planet helping tribes out and encountering other hostile life. Agree Irish that the action scenes are TERRIBLY staged. Why not just throw the thermal detonator at the AT-ST? Why do you need this wacky elaborate plan to get the walker to trip into water?

[Dukefrukem]

although the biggest (and pleasant) surprise is seeing Bryce Dallas Howard in the end credit as director.

I too was surprised by this as I announced it to my wife, who then says: "who's that?" Followed by me rolling my eyes.

[Skitch]

I too was surprised by this as I announced it to my wife, who then says: "who's that?" Followed by me rolling my eyes.

hahaha getting any decent sleep yet, bro?

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This episode made me lose hope a bit more. There's just too few episodes that cost too much money to have this little story and development on a plot seen so many dozens of times over the years on shows like Stargate, Farscape etc. There are cool elements and The Child is still cute, but it's turning into the most expensive bunch of nothing ever.

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[Dukefrukem]

;611936']This episode made me lose hope a bit more. There's just too few episodes that cost too much money to have this little story and development on a plot seen so many dozens of times over the years on shows like Stargate, Farscape etc. There are cool elements and The Child is still cute, but it's turning into the most expensive bunch of nothing ever.

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The hilarious part about this series is Disney wast even ready to sell Baby Yoda merch yet. What a missed opportunity.

[amberlita]

I liked it better than the previous episodes, but if they're trying to do the old-time-serial thing, I wish the runtimes were shorter.

They dick aroubd for 30+ minutes each time when really every episode is one story beat and one big (and badly staged) action scene.

Also, The Mandolorian himself should just never talk.

I get your point, but I wish the episodes were longer. There's very little plot progression, true, but that's something I could live with if they weren't leaning so hard on The Mandolorian's emotional evolution, which they are rushing through. And it's never been worse than it was in this episode. He had a handful interactions with that widow in the span of 15 minutes before another character - who The Mandolorian likewise barely knew and yet still confessed some personal struggles with - was suggesting he should renounce his way of life and settle down with her. He even chokes up at the thought later. I know Mando likes Baby Yoda, and that's one relationship that at least has been given about 3 episodes to become convincing, but twice in this episode someone outright calls Baby Yoda Mando's son and Mando doesn't bother to correct them. It's just not earned and Favreau seems to be hoping either lazy references to time passage ("You've been here a few weeks now...") or character beats imprinted in our brains from a lifetime of western/samurai film tropes (Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, er...The Three Amigos) to do the heavy lifting.

Though this is probably a false premise since having a longer episode that leads to better character building would necessitate writing that is good enough to make use of that extra runtime, which likely wouldn't happen here.

I do agree about the voice work and the dialogue. I love Pedro Pascal, but if they'd listened to his narration on Narcos Season 3 they would have seen that flat line-delivery coming. They just need to let him take off that fucking helmet already.

[Wryan]

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1199115849887436800

I dunno if the tweet link window works, or how to use it, really, so here's a flat url: https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1199115849887436800

[Wryan]

I really hate the man, but this was funny.

https://i.imgur.com/Lm83nyw.jpg

[Ezee E]

Ha. Can't believe that's real.

+1 Ted.

[Dukefrukem]

In Mike Stoklasa Voice: Remember tatooineeeeeeeeeee??

Remember speeder bikes???????

Remember those droids from Phantom Menace????

Remember the bar and booth where Han shot Greedo?

[Irish]

ffs I forgot this was on! somebody even reminded me & I still forgot.

[Irish]

oh wow that was bad

[[ETM]]

God, no. I expected it but still... No.

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[Irish]

FYI per Favreau new episode drops today and not Friday.

[[ETM]]

I had an epiphany today... The Mandalorian feels like we're watching someone play a video game. The episodic storytelling that does just a little bit to further the overall story, shallow single-serving characters, open world littered with little details that try to add up to a living universe... That's what's wrong with it - make The Witcher 3 or Red Dead Redemption but with a Mandalorian in the SW universe and you have a smash hit game. The show feels like a twitch stream of that game.

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[Irish]

btw this week's episode is good.

I wish the season was longer. Still feels like they're finding their groove.

On the bright side, if they renamed to "BABY YODA & FRIENDS" for the second season I wouldn't mind.

It's fun to get a new Star Wars whatever every week, especially considering all the rancor and bullshit that floats around the Big Official Saga.

[Dukefrukem]

Yes this was the first good episode with a decent cliffhanger. The last episode I wish was longer and I have a feel we may not see the last of Bill Burr.

[Irish]

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:D :D :D

[Grouchy]

Eh, this show is awesome. I binged the first five episodes last night and that's something I NEVER do. From the music to the great atmosphere, RPG structure, world building, stunt cult casting (Nick Nolte, Carl Weathers, Werner Herzog, Gina Carano), the illustrations at the end credits... It just completely won me over like nothing Star Wars has done in a long time. Not even The Last Jedi, heh.

[Ezee E]

Are they all finished? I figured I could binge watch my free month and call it good for Disney+. Doubt there's anything else I'll watch on there.

[Dukefrukem]

Yeh Season 1 is done.

Was not surprised to see the last episode was directed by Taika Waititi It's clearly the best episode in the season. That stormtrooper bit at the beginning was brilliant and made me wonder who was behind it.

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[Peng]

They save the best for the last. Waititi behind the camera adds a lot, from humor, character interactions, to even the action. Intriguing concept for next season too.

[Skitch]

That was an awesome season ender.

[Irish]

Over the top and ridiculous but felt very old-time-serial too and in keeping with the pastiche Lucas originally attempted.

Droid on a speeder bike, flame thrower trooper, and the lava river were highlights for me.

Spotted in the credits: Jason Sudeikis was Bike Speeder #1.

ETA: I had more fun watching the last 2 episodes of this than I did watching the last 3 or 4 Star Wars movies.

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I can't stand the old trope where lava doesn't burn unless you touch it. It's one of the things in fiction that irks me the most.

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[Ezee E]

Two episodes in and this is exactly what I would want out of a Mandalorian TV Show.

[Skitch]

;613273']I can't stand the old trope where lava doesn't burn unless you touch it. It's one of the things in fiction that irks me the most.


That def annoys me too, but in fantasy SW universe I can let it slide. You have to wonder how filmmakers have never seen the getup scientists have to wear just to get within 20 feet of lava for a minute or two.

[Ezee E]

Episode 3, and I ponder on the climate control that's in the Mandalorian helmets. That has to be a part of it right? Either way, they have to have tremendously bad body odor, because those things never come off.

Kind of neat not seeing a lightsaber, and one figures that all of the Baby Yoda species must be force sensitive?

[Wryan]

Also three episodes in so far, just catching up. My lord the music is thus far uninspired. Might as well be absent. On that note, I'm enjoying the long shots/scenes without dialogue. I'm a sucker for that. Plotting is pretty basic and I can't say I'm enormously invested, but it's watchable.

[Ezee E]

The Bill Burr - Prisoner Jail Break episode shoots to the top for me, and not just for Bill Burr. That whole ragtag group was entertaining to watch, even if it feels pretty fan-fiction at times.

It reminds me of the "Tales of the Jabba's Palace/Mos Eisley Cantina/Bounty Hunter" books that came out in the 90's that helped make me love Star Wars so much.

Two episodes to go.

[[ETM]]

My lord the music is thus far uninspired. Might as well be absent.

Music is perhaps one of the best things about the show. There is so much of it that Disney released a soundtrack for every episode as they came out.

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[Wryan]

I'm not hearing the wonder. Any time I do key into the music, it feels unsophisticated, even banal.

[[ETM]]

I'm not saying it's sophisticated, I'm saying it's appropriate for the show, and the first non-Williams SW score of any kind that doesn't make me regret having ears.

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[Ezee E]

Finished the season (and my Disney+ subscription). The last two episodes were a good way to wrap up the season. It wasn't as "serial" as I thought it was, since there was an overall Mando/Child story with it.

If it was simply an "Adventures of Mando" for another season, I would absolutely be in for reasons already stated. The supporting cast and villains in this were far more interesting than any of the supporting characters in the New Trilogy. There wasn't really any "plot armor" for characters, and there were stakes on the line.

I imagine Disney+ is ensuring that the Obi-Wan and Darth Maul series that are coming out will be lined up so that viewers will want to keep their Disney+ subscription, because I have no idea what else I'd watch beyond this right now.

[Dukefrukem]

Finished the season (and my Disney+ subscription). The last two episodes were a good way to wrap up the season. It wasn't as "serial" as I thought it was, since there was an overall Mando/Child story with it.

If it was simply an "Adventures of Mando" for another season, I would absolutely be in for reasons already stated. The supporting cast and villains in this were far more interesting than any of the supporting characters in the New Trilogy. There wasn't really any "plot armor" for characters, and there were stakes on the line.

I imagine Disney+ is ensuring that the Obi-Wan and Darth Maul series that are coming out will be lined up so that viewers will want to keep their Disney+ subscription, because I have no idea what else I'd watch beyond this right now.

Don't forget the MCU stuff.

The Star Wars catalog is nice to have as will be the Indiana Jones films.

[Ezee E]

Don't forget the MCU stuff.

The Star Wars catalog is nice to have as will be the Indiana Jones films.

The catalog is nice, but since I own the Indiana Jones and Original Star Wars trilogy, there's no need for me to pay a monthly bill for this.

MCU shows... I'll await reviews but the only one that interests me is the What If series

[Irish]

I was extremely surprised that Dis+ didn't have anything ready to go more than this show --- the bulk of the new MCU stuff won't be released until later this year (& some not until 2021)

[Morris Schæffer]

3 eps in, not grabbed yet. Like the general absence of familiarity, but it's nothing special. Like that it's short.

[Wryan]

Hard to believe this got good performance work out of Gina Carano. Uses her particular strengths to its advantage.

[Irish]

The trick is giving limited actors as few lines as possible. cf: Keanu in "Speed" and "The Matrix."

[Ezee E]

Hard to believe this got good performance work out of Gina Carano. Uses her particular strengths to its advantage.

Was going to mention the same thing.

On the other end, it seemed to not use Esposito's strengths.

[Dukefrukem]

Remember that Geroge Lucas live action show from a couple of years ago? The Test footage was leaked. Looks more like Blade Runner than Star Wars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpTOwXVu8g&feature=emb_title

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Yeah, all the worst parts of Coruscant. Nah.

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[Dukefrukem]

;614779']Yeah, all the worst parts of Coruscant. Nah.

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I mean, how would you ever know? It's probably the most interesting unexplored planet in the Star Wars universe and all we ever have seen is a bunch of a buildings during the day and night, a night club and ships flying back in forth from inside the Jedi Council.

[Ezee E]

I mean, how would you ever know? It's probably the most interesting unexplored planet in the Star Wars universe and all we ever have seen is a bunch of a buildings during the day and night, a night club and ships flying back in forth from inside the Jedi Council.

Would've been interesting to see the different levels of class there for sure.

[Skitch]

There was one book that delved down in the lower depths, into the abandoned parts. Talked about how the planet was just city built on decaying city on decaying city. It was dark as hell and really cool. Can't remember which book.

[Dukefrukem]

There was one book that delved down in the lower depths, into the abandoned parts. Talked about how the planet was just city built on decaying city on decaying city. It was dark as hell and really cool. Can't remember which book.

Hell, even the short clip we see where Dooku flies out to his hanger is kinda cool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TgGdj2riHc

[Morris Schæffer]

3 eps in, not grabbed yet. Like the general absence of familiarity, but it's nothing special. Like that it's short.

Came away satisfied, though by no means elated, after the last 2 episodes. It's all just rather episodic in nature, like how MacGyver and The A-team used to be in the 80's.
Some silly stuff, like villagers being trained in the art of combat in a span of 10 minutes. Or how about Gideon's troops installing a devastating web gun, but then instead of using it, giving our heroes a really long-ass ultimatum so that Mando's got a chance to grab the unattended gun moments later. or Mando being close to death, asking to be left behind, only to be saved by some...magic spray from used-to-be-bad-but-is-now-good robot.

Some emotional beats too, like Kquil's demise, or the aforementioned robot. Yoda using the force and then immediately thereafter sitting down from sheer exhaustion. S-i-c-k-e-n-i-n-g-l-y cute!

Real funny too, like the bit with the storm troopers's miserable aim, but luckily not too much goofiness. Show doesn't outstay its welcome, though I hope for a bit more ambition and narrative pull for season 2.

[[ETM]]

I mean, how would you ever know? It's probably the most interesting unexplored planet in the Star Wars universe and all we ever have seen is a bunch of a buildings during the day and night, a night club and ships flying back in forth from inside the Jedi Council.It's the least imaginative setting, especially for Star Wars. We've seen it in cyberpunk and other genres of books, games, movies and television so much that it has already become a cliche.

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[Dukefrukem]

;614934']We've seen it in cyberpunk

We have??

[Skitch]

We have??

I think he means in the capacity of an overwhelmingly large city that gets dirtier the lower levels you go. Off the top of my head, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Metropolis...

[[ETM]]

I thought it was obvious but yeah. Still, even if we didn't, in a universe of one town planets, making the whole planet a high tech city is ludicrous.

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[Morris Schæffer]

I think he means in the capacity of an overwhelmingly large city that gets dirtier the lower levels you go. Off the top of my head, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Metropolis...

Elysium? Not cyberpunk, but still. Blade Runner? I mean, the off world colonies are where the rich folks go right.

[Dukefrukem]

Holy shit. I had no idea they filmed this with a projection and 3D tracking using the Unreal engine.

Makes total sense for a TV production.

Check it out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbBBUHXPuvg

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A friend of mine who works for a local company owned by Epic Games told me about this back in May. I couldn't even imagine how mindblowing it actually is.

[Ezee E]

I want to see that movie.

[Wryan]

I see that Gantz: 0 movie on Netflix all the time and never really considered it. But that youtube vid made me check it out. The melodrama is garbage even for anime standards, but the rest is quite badass. It's like a mix of Pacific Rim, One-Punch Man and Hunger Games. Very gory in places, but it's super fun. Right up my alley.

[Dukefrukem]

I see that Gantz: 0 movie on Netflix all the time and never really considered it. But that youtube vid made me check it out. The melodrama is garbage even for anime standards, but the rest is quite badass. It's like a mix of Pacific Rim, One-Punch Man and Hunger Games. Very gory in places, but it's super fun. Right up my alley.

Ha. I did the same thing. The weaponry and monster designs are badass.

[Skitch]

I watched that like a year ago. No Oscar winner, but I enjoyed the hell outta it.

[TGM]

Rosario Dawson will reportedly be playing Ahsoka Tano in season 2 of The Mandalorian. This casting might get me to actually watch the show. o.O

[Skitch]

Perfect. As it should be.

[Morris Schæffer]

Michael fucking Biehn is in season 2!!

[Dukefrukem]

Bill Burr returning too.

[Ezee E]

Bill Burr returning too.

Sweet.

[Morris Schæffer]

Boba may be in s2, played by t. Morisson.

[Dukefrukem]

Fick yeah
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/timothy-olyphant-joins-mandalorian-1294788

[Ezee E]

Fick yeah
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/timothy-olyphant-joins-mandalorian-1294788

Needs more Werner Herzog and Carl Weathers casting, but this is on the right track.

[Morris Schæffer]

Fick yeah
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/timothy-olyphant-joins-mandalorian-1294788

Missed that. Such a cool actor.

[Morris Schæffer]

https://youtu.be/rOJ1cw6mohw

[Ezee E]

Not dying to see it, but I'll be curious.

[Dukefrukem]

What's the point of this story? Need more info to get interested.

[Skitch]

Guessing: Filling the vacuum of power left after Jabba's demise.

[Dukefrukem]

Guessing: Filling the vacuum of power left after Jabba's demise.

Which impacts....? What stakes are involved? Why do we care ??

[Idioteque Stalker]

We care because we used to play with Boba Fett action figures.

I turned it off as soon as Boba Fett, the most famous bounty hunter of all time, said "I'm not a bounty hunter."

[Skitch]

Which impacts....? What stakes are involved? Why do we care ??

I'm just spitballing...control of the underworld that stems from Tatooine. Stakes...wealth and power, I guess. Why do we care, why did we care about the Sopranos? That was basically Jabba's role, wasn't it? That took place in basically a tri-state area. I could see a mob show set in the tri-sector SW universe be cool. Maybe not, I don't know, I'm not defending it, I don't know whats going on with it. I was never that jacked up about Boba Fett when I was a kid, even being a ridiculous SW fan. Hell I didn't even think he was that cool until the Clones Wars cartoon, there he stood out way more than the movies.

[Dukefrukem]

Sopranos had actual characters. I'm not even sure what this has other than filler.

[Skitch]

Sopranos had actual characters. I'm not even sure what this has other than filler.

You very well may be right.

[Ezee E]

Sopranos had actual characters. I'm not even sure what this has other than filler.

We'll see what this does. If it's serialized like Mandalorian, or a little more focused.

I will say that the Mandalorian, despite the serialized nature, has actually made some neat characters that I'd like to see again. I wouldn't expect something grandiose to Sopranos-Wire scale.

[StuSmallz]

https://youtu.be/Y9T95JBX13M

[Morris Schæffer]

https://youtu.be/9J7o3wyc9pk

[Wryan]

Pinhead's in this?? What a crossover! Disney is really pulling out all the stops.

[Ezee E]

Pinhead's in this?? What a crossover! Disney is really pulling out all the stops.

Ha, my same reaction.

[Morris Schæffer]

Every godforsaken, clumsily-plotted, thrills-deprived scene in this is mere filler leading up to, wait for it, Anakin battling Obi-Wan again and it's a pretty good fight. Chilling even, although one cannot help feeling it's basically a retread of their showdown at the end of Revenge of the Sith. And it's literally the easiest scene for the makers to get right. Revenge of the Sith was the best prequel because of how closely it leads up to A New Hope. What they don't get right, what they should have gotten right is most everything prior to the big fight. That was the challenging part, that was the part that required actual inspiration and strong writing. Oh there are some good bits, like the casting of young Leia, and some of the nods to the original trilogy are cool like when the star destroyer is chasing the good guys, the music seems a carbon copy of a similar scene in the Empire Strikes Back. Although that's lazy too in a way.

It's truly hilarious how Obi-Wan manages to smuggle out Leia out of a major enemy base. And not because that scene in itself couldn't be plausible, but because about 10 minutes earlier, when our heroes are discussing options, the base is made out to be some absolutely impregnable, insanely-difficult-to-invade stronghold. Compounding matters is that at 2 separate locations the character called Tala is appealing to the ridiculous dumbness of the bad guys and succeeds. I'll allow the 'secret' underwater hatch to get in, can't have Star Wars without that.

Christensen's return to the franchise? Oversold. He adds to that final duel, no question, but it's the lighting, MacGregor, the make-up, the decision to criss-cross Vader's voice with Anakin's that lends that scene an eerie, somewhat haunting quality.

[StuSmallz]

https://youtu.be/DblSA-T_C-I

[Wryan]

Andor is the best piece of Star Wars media we've gotten in years and years. I'm flabbergasted how good this shit is. The writing, the acting, the world-building, the execution of it all--it's just walloping. It's so confident, so pleasing, so rousing. Give the showrunners any and all the SW projects they want.

[Grouchy]

Andor is the best piece of Star Wars media we've gotten in years and years. I'm flabbergasted how good this shit is. The writing, the acting, the world-building, the execution of it all--it's just walloping. It's so confident, so pleasing, so rousing. Give the showrunners any and all the SW projects they want.
I agree with this.

[[ETM]]

We've seen four episodes and it's great. It's everything I wanted Rogue One to be, and the rest of SW properties to continue, instead of diving into cheap memberberries. Plenty of fresh lore, filling in the gaps and expanding the universe, and all the references and mentions of things we know are mostly in passing and not essential.

[Wryan]

I think Rogue One is improving in the rear-view even more with Andor.

[Peng]

Great Andor finale, amazing first season.

[Wryan]

Finale came out right after I left for vacation dammit. Came back to watch it. Sad to see it end so abruptly, but the finale was great. Goddamn Fiona Shaw nailed her shit down. Everyone was amazing, really. This stuck the landing for sure.