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Henry Gale
03-19-2013, 06:48 AM
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Henry Gale
03-19-2013, 07:57 AM
Sadly nothing special. Definitely more committed to delivering piles of gore and a handful of bizarro moments than your average horror remake, but in the end, like most other 21st century re-do's, it feels like a missed opportunity.

It's a shame that outside of those big, bloody bits that most of the distinct things this film has in its arsenal are transplanted from the original films. The larger problem is those call-back moments don't even feel properly retrofitted to this 2013 version's more modernized and macabre tone, so they just stick out a bit awkwardly as silly, campy flourishes to an otherwise gritty and grisly film that takes itself pretty seriously. The overtly homage-paying moments do provide intermittent thrills, but the way they're implemented feels mostly disjointed, At its worst, it feels like a decent Platinum Dunes remake that Sam Raimi was brought in to do a week of re-shoots on.

There are definitely stretches along the way that work, particularly its beautifully bombastic finale, but between them it just can't overcome characters, plotting, a generally clunky momentum and scaring techniques that aren't compelling or original enough to allow those undeniably effective (and impressively graphic) moments to really pack a lasting punch. The overall experience suffers because it has nothing under the surface.

There's just a sore lack of reinvention or a genuine spark to really accomplish anything new here. It hits all the sorts of beats we've seen before -- either under this franchise's name or others-- but just seems content with hitting them a little harder and bloodier. It's like a theme park exhibit to showcase an array of ideas instead of a well-devised ride that strings them together cohesively. It's as if the whole project started as a hired writer being contractually obligated to call the project Evil Dead and supply die-hard fans with a checklist of things that were peppered through Raimi's films and then only over time did people who actually revered the originals re-work them with a bit more affection. But take away the Book of the Dead, the demon voices, the chainsaws, and even Raimi's Oldsmobile, and I'm not sure what would hypothetically be there for anyone to get interested in this as an original script. It simultaneously wants to live up to its name and also deliberately be its own thing, but no idea how to be either.

The best example is the end credits tag, which is literally just a close-up of 2013 Bruce Campbell against a dark background, uttering the word "Groovy", and then giving a jokey scowl to the camera. Why? Because... It's Ash, guys! I mean, c'mon? Is that not enough!?
And that basically sums up the whole thing for me: Theoretically all the right elements for something cool, but not enough genuine inspiration or imagination to weave them into something truly exciting.

Dukefrukem
04-06-2013, 01:51 AM
:(

Ivan Drago
04-06-2013, 04:45 AM
Diablo Cody wrote it. I'm out.

Dead & Messed Up
04-06-2013, 07:09 AM
No, she didn't. She briefly worked as a script doctor.

Henry Gale
04-06-2013, 08:09 AM
Yeah, Cody isn't even listed in the final credits. Which considering how WGA actually decides things, doesn't mean she didn't do anything significant, but whatever her input might've been, it's not peppy, mannered dialogue.

If anything, and I never thought I'd say this, the movie could've used some more of a noticable voice, especially in how the characters acted and spoke, and she might've been just the sort of person to do that kind of thing. I'll clarify that I mean more of the sort of biting, morbid type of character interactions she scripted in Young Adult, or even the sort of weirder things she worked into Jennifer's Body (horror or otherwise). I didn't want to hear this group of kids say "Honest to blog" to make sure it was set in present day. I swear.

Skitch
04-06-2013, 10:47 AM
:(

Go on...

Dukefrukem
04-06-2013, 01:30 PM
Go on...

The ideas are there (up until the ending) it just lacks the polish that maybe a more experienced director could have brought to the table. Every character in the movie was a miscast with the exception of Jane Levy. Terrible acting abilities among the group. Apparently...no one in the cabin feels pain. The ending is horrificly lazy. And why is every movie doing an after credit scene now? I stuck around because I felt like there would be something there and I was right.

Henry's write up above is spot on. He even would give it a higher grade than I would.

Skitch
04-06-2013, 01:38 PM
I think my expectations are appropriately in check.

transmogrifier
04-06-2013, 02:30 PM
Well, having just watched the original, this won't have to do much to be an improvement.

D_Davis
04-06-2013, 05:32 PM
Well, having just watched the original, this won't have to do much to be an improvement.



Mega burn on pop-culture! OUCH! IN YER FACE!

Dead & Messed Up
04-06-2013, 05:42 PM
The original film is thirty-two years old.

Mother of Jehoshaphat.

Rowland
04-06-2013, 07:55 PM
Well, having just watched the original, this won't have to do much to be an improvement.My friends and I discovered the sequel as a random VHS rental back in the mid-'90s and were blown away*, but upon catching up with the original, I was the only one of us who not only didn't hate it, but preferred it to the sequel. Come to think of it, nobody I've ever shown it to has particularly cared for it, whereas the sequel (which I also still adore) is always a hit. So yeah, that's just a roundabout way of saying that your reaction, contrary to its reputation on the internet and in certain horror circles, is by no means unexpected.

*And speaking of which, I miss the days when that could happen. Maybe it explains why I still try to give so many under-the-radar horror movies a chance.

Dead & Messed Up
04-06-2013, 08:10 PM
Yeah. As a kid, I was shocked and appalled and delighted and scared. As an adult, I really can't be affected the same way I used to be. Still, as a piece of forceful craftsmanship, I think The Evil Dead is goddamn satisfying. Among the most ambitious and artfully made of the frustrating Dead Teenager genre.

I'm one of those predictable sorts who likes Evil Dead II more. That zombie hand is a hoot.

EyesWideOpen
04-06-2013, 09:32 PM
This new one is gonna make more money this weekend then all three of the previous films totals combined.

Boner M
04-07-2013, 12:57 AM
I haven't seen the original in too long to compare (although I rated it a 10/10 on IMDb at the time, apparently), but this was really bland and tensionless and just made me feel old. The makeup effects and a decent climax are really the only drawcard, but even then it's a no-passion/all-technique show.

megladon8
04-07-2013, 02:58 AM
The original is still a 10/10 from me. One of me go-to, most re-watchable films.

Skitch
04-07-2013, 11:32 AM
I own the original on (Anchor Bay limited edition serial numbered) VHS, (Anchor Bay limited edition serial numbered) DVD, and blu-ray.

Dead & Messed Up
04-07-2013, 09:06 PM
Yeah, this was frustrating, only intermittently engaging, with a bizarre commitment to Character Arcs and Proper Development that shows too clearly the Hollywood polish the film would rather hide. That polish also extends to the Platinum-Dunesy quality that Henry observed, notable mostly with the grimy interiors and dingy lighting. Part of the charm of the original film is its ragged edges and scrappy energy.

Regarding the climax:

Beautifully staged, with the blood rain giving the film a silent-movie color tint, and there's that nasty chainsaw-slicing that bifurcates the villain, but given the buildup to the "Abomination," I was expecting something a little more than Evil Mia. We saw that all film. It's intended as an allegory for her fighting off her darker, heroin-loving self, but I don't care. I wanted something more creatively monstrous.

Regarding the credit cookie:

Entirely needless, and to the film's detriment. Points up the lack of personality.

eternity
04-07-2013, 09:15 PM
It's been nearly a year since I saw Cabin in the Woods on the same screen I watched Evil Dead on. This kind of thing just doesn't cut it anymore. Frustratingly banal.

Mal
04-07-2013, 09:45 PM
I enjoyed moments of this film, but not this film itself. After the busty runaway lady torture at the beginning at the hands of her own father, the entire plot of Mia being a drug addict with an absent brother who witnesses her mother dying feels cheap. Granted, its a horror film, but hasn't this chick been through enough?

Ezee E
04-07-2013, 10:35 PM
This is exactly what it wanted to be. A gorefest that did for 2013, what the original Evil Dead did 32 years ago. While low on acting chops and logic, it makes up for in set pieces, gore effects, and atmosphere. There's an attempt at making these characters more then cardboard cutouts, but really, those that enjoyed this, are going to watch it again for the setpieces. Sometime ridiculous, sometimes effectively scary to watch, it's the best set of horror effects in quite a while, culiminating in a shower of blood.

I'm the first person to like this here. Disappointing. I had a blast with it.

transmogrifier
04-07-2013, 10:40 PM
Mega burn on pop-culture! OUCH! IN YER FACE!

Or, conversely: I simply didn't like the movie.

Skitch
04-07-2013, 11:38 PM
This is exactly what it wanted to be. A gorefest that did for 2013, what the original Evil Dead did 32 years ago. While low on acting chops and logic, it makes up for in set pieces, gore effects, and atmosphere. There's an attempt at making these characters more then cardboard cutouts, but really, those that enjoyed this, are going to watch it again for the setpieces. Sometime ridiculous, sometimes effectively scary to watch, it's the best set of horror effects in quite a while, culiminating in a shower of blood.

I'm the first person to like this here. Disappointing. I had a blast with it.

Don't worry, I'll be seeing it this week.

Dukefrukem
04-07-2013, 11:46 PM
it's the best set of horror effects in quite a while, culiminating in a shower of blood.

I agree with this. Best since... Drag Me to Hell. :)

Ezee E
04-08-2013, 03:45 AM
I didn't stay for the end credits scene. At all worth seeing?

Henry Gale
04-08-2013, 03:49 AM
I didn't stay for the end credits scene. At all worth seeing?

Yeah, I guess. I mentioned it in my original post, and a link was posted in the Upcoming thread that detailed the much longer, deleted cliffhanger.

But here it is. It is brief:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0YWuq0pqE

EyesWideOpen
04-08-2013, 03:51 AM
I was going to go watch this tomorrow but I figured I'd rewatch the original three first since I hadn't seen them in probably 10 years.

Ezee E
04-08-2013, 08:42 AM
Also, put this up to debate, but I feel this is more in line with being a fun horrorfest to watch with friends, rather then torture porn horror that was famous a few years ago. This is desp

Ezee E
04-08-2013, 08:43 AM
Ite being as gory as those previous movies. Anyone agree?

Henry Gale
04-08-2013, 09:08 AM
Oh I thought it was a lot of fun in exactly that way, just not enough of the time. I saw it with a pretty optimal, horror-loving audience with a bunch of friends in the mix, and the whole room burst into applause and cheered when the big, bloody crescendo of its finale graced the screen, and I was pretty much there with them. I'm just not sure it had enough going for it to keep me invested between moments like that.

eternity
04-12-2013, 06:51 AM
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Rowland
04-12-2013, 07:58 AM
Says the guy who made Detention. And Torque, but I like that movie.

number8
04-12-2013, 03:04 PM
Wouldn't turning cows into steak be the contextual element, whereas the steak isn't?

Skitch
04-13-2013, 12:58 AM
Wouldn't turning cows into steak be the contextual element, whereas the steak isn't?

That's what I thought, and if that thought was inaccurate, his comment still doesn't seem to make much sense. As much as I love Torque's hilarity...shut up, bro.

Ezee E
04-13-2013, 01:37 AM
Kahn whines a lot on his twitter, and seems very sexually frustrated.

Bosco B Thug
04-18-2013, 12:08 AM
Okay, I'm going to be confusing on this one. It's a two-star film, but I didn't dislike it, or not enjoy it, so I didn't want to nay it.

If you don't think about comparing it to the original Evil Dead, this is a pretty neat, stylish horror film. Talk about messing with a tried and true formula (or not tried and true...): it takes The Evil Dead and gives it a story, characters with arcs, thematic underpinnings, emotional peaks and narrative fades, and forgoes conventional slasher film thrills for more "high concept" devices to lead to the gore and grue.

Very middlebrow for a sick and nasty throwback horror. You just have to go along with it.

megladon8
04-18-2013, 01:48 AM
Surprisingly decent. Sits along the Fright Night remake as a film that was better than it had any right to be.

I really liked that they did their own thing with it entirely. A slavish remake (or, even worse, 90 minutes of fan service) this was not. A wink and a nod here and there, but all in all it's its own movie, which is its greatest strength.

Strong visuals, and Jane Levy's performance was kind of fantastic.

People comparing this to torture porn don't know what they're talking about.

Dukefrukem
04-18-2013, 01:59 AM
Sits along the Fright Night remake as a film that was better than it had any right to be..

Odd comparison.

megladon8
04-18-2013, 02:04 AM
Odd comparison.


Not really. Both remakes of '80s cult classic horror films. Both were dreaded by those same fanbases. Both ended up being not nearly as terrible was originally expected.

Rowland
04-18-2013, 05:41 AM
Hell, I like the Fright Night remake more than the original. There is virtually no chance of that happening here, but I'm still hoping for the best, might see it tomorrow.

EyesWideOpen
04-18-2013, 05:51 AM
Hell, I like the Fright Night remake more than the original. There is virtually no chance of that happening here, but I'm still hoping for the best, might see it tomorrow.

It is much better then the original.

Rowland
04-18-2013, 07:49 AM
It is much better then the original.Well yeah, I figured non-fans of the original would be more likely to prefer the remake.

Dukefrukem
04-18-2013, 11:53 AM
I was a fan of the original and I think the remake is lightyears better.

Evil Dead remake? Not so much. It's close to being good. I think the inexperience of the director really hurt the film. The scenes are too chopped together and it's obvious. Maybe this was the editor's debut film too.

EyesWideOpen
04-18-2013, 12:25 PM
Well yeah, I figured non-fans of the original would be more likely to prefer the remake.

Well before my recent rewatches I would have definitely said I was a fan of the original.

Rowland
04-18-2013, 01:16 PM
Well before my recent rewatches I would have definitely said I was a fan of the original.Tastes change, that's fine. My latest rewatch convinced me that the disappointment of my prior viewing a few years back was misguided, and who knows, maybe I'll feel differently yet again the next time.

Skitch
04-19-2013, 07:25 PM
A meager thumbs up. I was with it until the lightning strike, then things really went kind of wonky. I'll have to rewatch that third act and think about it some more to really see how I feel about it.

Spun Lepton
06-09-2013, 04:43 AM
I am a HUGE fan of the Evil Dead movies. I believe this really works as an addition to the series. While the twist near the end seems a little heavy-handed, I can't argue with it because it DOES keep in line with the mythology. The twist being ...

Mia is released from possession.

The copy I watched was really shitty, but damn if I didn't enjoy it. I will be buying this on disc when it's released. I really look forward to watching a nice copy.

Scar
07-13-2013, 01:30 AM
This was... alright I guess. Copious amounts of gore, a touch unsettling at times. I think it will be better to watch with Spun and perhaps bac0n. As of now, I give it a mediocre thumbs up.

Irish
07-19-2013, 06:01 AM
This was half to two-thirds of a brilliant fucking horror movie .. But then the final act retreats into boring, 'final girl' bullshit. Not to play forum politician, but I agree with every single praise and every single criticism in this thread. Voting a big yay, but not before I express how let down I was by the last act of the movie.

SPOILERS BELOW - Not using tags because this is obscenely long.

I loved, loved, loved the drug addiction angle. This gave the movie just enough plot to keep the first act going, which is where a lot of these kind of horrors struggle. I enjoyed realizing that Mia would become possessed while everybody else would mistake that for withdrawal. This was an inspired choice.

I liked the idea that David, the supposed lead, is a coward, his friends resent him, and he's estranged from his sister. The characters are so underwritten that a lot of that doesn't play as well as it should, but the basics are there. I liked the moment where David is put into the impossible position of killing the sister he was trying to save. I wish they had lingerered on that a bit more, and had created actual tension around his choices.

I loved what were, essentially, all the set pieces. These were well executed. The tree rape. The bit in the bathroom. The chick with the nail gun. Cutting off the arm in the kitchen. The finale with the raining blood. All of that was four stars of fucking awesome.

The original switched around horror movie gender roles (women are the aggressors, men are the targets) and this does too, but ... I fucking hate that they threw that out the window in the third act. And for what? So we can watch a character we haven't seem in awhile and don't care about?

Spun called Mia's return a twist, and I guess it was but while watching the film I was confused. Like, wait, the defibrillator didn't work so how is she alive and not only that but COMPLETELY UNHARMED? Is this a fucking videogame? Did she respawn?

Worse than that, "Mia" as a character hasn't been onscreen for 45 minutes to an hour. Why are we supposed to care when the demon-thing chases her around the truck? I mean, c'mon. At that point in the movie, everybody else is dead so you know she isn't going to get killed. Yet the movie insists on dragging out this little moment out for as long as possible.

I hated my own brain. I was really with the movie 100% up until the nail gun scene. Then, it became a conscious choice on my part to repeatedly ignore the voice in my head that said, "Wait, what? How is that guy still alive? Hell, how is he still even conscious?"

The characters here take viscious beatings. They're shot, stabbed, bitten, thrown against walls and fall down stairs. Twice, they cut off their own limbs. And yet ... they can still manage to stand up, walk around and maintain enough coordination to handle tools and weapons. I'm willing to cut any movie a lot of slack in this area for the sake of entertainment, but c'mon. This broke my suspension of disbelief completely and made the movie feel a helluva lot dumber with each passing minute.

But I think my biggest overall disappointment was the gradual shift in tone.

ACT I was so fucking atmospheric and creepy. I jumped at the jump scares. I yelled out a couple of times. I fucking loved ever minute of it. For awhile there I thought "Evil Dead" was gonna turn out to rival "The Devil's Rejects" and "Ringu" for great, atmospheric, fucked up horrors.

ACT II was over the top creeps, action and gore. More intense action, much less atmospheric, fewer jumps. I fucking loved Demon Mia. She really seemed pure "other," alien and evil.

ACT III was a teen slasher film filtered through Raimi's work. I stopped caring and just enjoyed the gore.

Finally: Yeah, the callbacks and the credit cookie made me smile but I agree with Dead & Messed Up. Maybe if you're trying to sell people on the idea that this movie is serious and scary, you shouldn't remind them how much goofy fun Bruce Campbell is.

Irish
07-19-2013, 06:53 AM
Two more things while I'm feeling super nitpicky:

- If a demon every possesses a female relative and I get the upper hand, let me just tell you all right now that I going to risk my life and take, oh, I dunno, an extra half hour to forty five minutes to change her clothes, put a plastic bag on her head, and bury her in the back yard. This is despite the fact I could kill said demon in 5 seconds with a Zippo and a bottle of lighter fluid, but, ya know, why not? All of my friends are dead and I'm bleeding profusely, but fuck it, I got time.

- I'm going to make sure said female relative has a magic dress, one made of such strong, sturdy material it (1) doesn't get dirty when I throw her in an open grave and (2) never, never shows her nipples, even if the fabric becomes completely soaked through. With, say, blood. From the sky.

Rowland
07-19-2013, 07:21 AM
I liked the reversal at the end, it reveals a nifty thematic throughline that I thought paid off in spades. Consider the film through the prism of a rape-revenge template, in which Mia's addiction is the rapist that inseminates her with the demonic DTs, causing the psychological fallout that results in the emotional and physical traumas of the middle act, before the finale delivers a manifestation of the affliction in the form of her strung-out doppelganger for her to enact her bloody revenge upon and thus conquer. It helps as well that Mia was the most sympathetic character (and Levy the best actor) of the bunch.

Irish
07-19-2013, 07:34 AM
I liked the reversal at the end, it reveals a nifty thematic throughline that I thought paid off in spades. Consider the film through the prism of a rape-revenge template, in which Mia's addiction is the rapist that inseminates her with the demonic DTs, causing the psychological fallout that results in the emotional and physical traumas of the middle act, before the finale delivers a manifestation of the affliction in the form of her strung-out doppelganger for her to enact her bloody revenge upon and thus conquer. It helps as well that Mia was the most sympathetic character (and Levy the best actor) of the bunch.

She was wonderful, as was the guy (?) playing the demon-thing or whatever it was.

The movie never suggests that redemption is possible for those possessed. In fact, it does exactly the opposite several times. (David's efforts in the third act really make the father in the prologue look like an asshole).

I like your interpretation a lot thematically, and I think it fits. But to deliver on that theme, it feels like they cheated with the plot.

Rowland
07-19-2013, 07:44 AM
She was wonderful, as was the guy (?) playing the demon-thing or whatever it was. The demon, referred to in the credits as "Abomination Mia," was actually played by an actress who I presume they cast for her physical likeness to Levy.

Grouchy
10-22-2013, 06:31 AM
I broke my non-remake-watching rule for this one and, I got to say, it wasn't worth it.

Sure, I liked the absurd gore and violence, but what the hell is the point of this movie? Evil Dead doesn't have that great of a plot to begin with. What's amazing about it is the inventiveness of Sam Raimi and Bruce's carisma. And its low budget F/X work, while this one just looks like HDTV. This movie is straight Horror with demonic possessions. Ok, that's cool. Even in that frame of mind, it can't stand on its own.

It's unfortunate for Raimi that this came out after Cabin in the Woods, which effectively parodies and breaks down the exact same script, so that this one looks even dumber than it is.

Irish
10-22-2013, 07:27 AM
It's unfortunate for Raimi that this came out after Cabin in the Woods, which effectively parodies and breaks down the exact same script, so that this one looks even dumber than it is.

This is an excellent point.

Rowland
10-22-2013, 03:22 PM
I like Cabin in the Woods less and less every time it's used as lazy shorthand to dismiss a horror film.

Grouchy
10-22-2013, 04:00 PM
You know I like Horror. What I don't like is lazy plots and empty characters. And pointless remakes.

Kurosawa Fan
12-11-2013, 01:17 PM
If a film can be better than expected and still awfully disappointing, this is that film. Amazing effects work, unrelentingly gory, completely nuts finale, and a great lead performance. Also really liked the revised plotting that initially keeps them in the cabin. Beyond that, it's kind of... dull. That seems at odds with the ultra-gory presentation, but at some point the relentless gore effects goes beyond that saturation level and ceased having much of an effect on me. Without the gore, there really isn't much going on in the way of tension. The supporting performances, especially the brother (a misstep of a character in the first place), are pretty dreadful. The film tosses aside logic any time it can't figure out how to get to where it wants to go. The filmmaking is poor, evidenced by the myriad cut-to-black moments in lieu of continuing the action sequences. It earns a little back during the blood raining, hand tearing, chainsaw finale, and then undercuts that with an eye roll worthy optimistic final moment. This film will undoubtedly fade from memory very quickly, which is a shame because there are moments of brilliance, and the potential was there for a memorable update.