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Barty
06-05-2013, 07:13 PM
Let's enjoy the beautiful song shall we?


http://youtu.be/iTuhpJBBvCc

number8
06-05-2013, 07:19 PM
Especially since the writers of the show made it so that Ned Stark may have died twice. Bastards.

Speaking of which, I find fans who think that additions on the show are some kind of affront are weird. George RR Martin picked the people on the production and is everyone's boss. I am pretty sure they consult every deviations with him first.

number8
06-05-2013, 07:20 PM
sad robb stark

http://i.imgur.com/atQdRNb.jpg

From his Rolling Stones interview:


But the journey of that character and the fondness that we all have for each other as a cast and a crew and as characters playing the story . . . It was really moving, and not very nice, and I left set and got straight to the airport and got on a plane because I didn't want to be there anymore. It was very difficult.


It was really hard shooting the end of it. It's still very difficult for me to process that I'm not going back, that it is completely gone. It's funny, because I'm still very close with all the crew, and I've been talking to the hair department and the other actors who are all gearing up and going back into it. That's really strange to me. Just now, we're gearing up into summer, and I should be starting back on the show, but I'm not.

:sad:

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/game-of-thrones-q-a-richard-madden-on-robb-starks-endgame-20130602

[ETM]
06-05-2013, 07:24 PM
It's also funny how his episode was the worst of the season.

Henry Gale
06-05-2013, 09:14 PM
By the way, I'm loving the producers' weird choices to get popular indie bands to do the songs. Picking The National do the Lannister song was great, and this season they hired The Hold Steady to do a drinking song and got the guy from Snow Patrol to sing it in the episode.

Not to mention the bald drummer in the newest episode was Will Champion from Coldplay.

I definitely didn't recognize the song from hearing it briefly in the scene, but it didn't really make a difference, since at that point I'd already assumed what was bound to happen and was spending that time mentally bracing myself for it.

But honestly, most of the music played within the show is dressed up so similarly that aside from when characters sing stories along with it, it kinda registers as sounding the same to me. If Matt Berninger from The National had stepped out with the wedding band, maybe it would've brought things a little closer to figuring out the motives to it all before the dialogue revealed it.

Kurosawa Fan
06-05-2013, 09:25 PM
One omission from the books that is troubling to me... [book spoiler, obv.]

Why did they not mention that before his death Robb "willed," for lack of a better word, Winterfell to Jon Snow in the wake of the news that Bran and Rickon had been murdered by Theon? I feel like the show either dropped the ball, or revealed that Martin decided to do nothing with that major development in future books.

Anyone else bothered by that, or would reading further reveal the reason for the omission?

number8
06-05-2013, 09:28 PM
Not to mention the bald drummer in the newest episode was Will Champion from Coldplay.

I'm seeing a pattern here. They're hiring Brooklyn bands to write and record the songs, but get UK musicians to cameo on the show playing them. Tsk tsk.

[ETM]
06-05-2013, 09:38 PM
Martin is on Conan tonight. Headey was on last night.

number8
06-05-2013, 10:31 PM
Good interview too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeuBm2CJF24

Dead & Messed Up
06-06-2013, 02:15 AM
Welp, time for me to write Cersei/Swanson fanfic.

Fezzik
06-06-2013, 04:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U6AjgR7D3yg

Spoilers if you haven't seen the latest episode yet, but otherwise... :lol:

number8
06-06-2013, 08:02 PM
This entire tumblr is amazing. (http://arrestedwesteros.com/)

Acapelli
06-06-2013, 08:15 PM
This entire tumblr is amazing. (http://arrestedwesteros.com/)
i love this

Kurosawa Fan
06-06-2013, 08:40 PM
Best one is "And that's why you always leave a note." :lol:

number8
06-06-2013, 09:44 PM
Making Daario Naharis Gene Parmesan remains my favorite.

Thirdmango
06-07-2013, 06:16 AM
Just to chime in, I recognized that they were playing a song I had already heard somewhere on the show, and I assumed it was the song that the title of the episode was (since I watched it on hbogo and knew the title), but beyond that I didn't actually know what the song was. I didn't recognize it from the last time it was mentioned.

Also Qrazy is right, he was raping all of us newborns. I'm sure that talk of scene structure will be able to be spoken about after us newborns get over our shock and can watch it a second time knowing it's coming. But for us newborns it's still a, "oh what are they OH GOD."

Henry Gale
06-10-2013, 07:03 AM
Moving past the shock value it concentrated to last week's episode, this finale managed to reconnect the rawer, more effusive nerves of its ensemble's wide range of motives and emotions in honestly incredible ways. Hard to believe it was the longest-ever episode because it played so tightly and brazenly.

Even scenes as seemingly straight-forward as that one between Stannis, Melisandre and Davos are designed with such beautiful reversals in the writing and performances, all within simply stunningly decorated images. I don't know if that sunset was real or fabricated, but I almost don't care it gave the scene such a perfect flourish.

As Breaking Bad wraps in a couple of months, I can't help but feel that this is the best drama on television going forward.

Sxottlan
06-10-2013, 09:09 AM
;481614']I was just surprised to hear someone say they didn't know it, since it's hard for me to imagine. Anyone I asked had the same reaction. I'm just amused by this, nothing more.

Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't recall ever hearing the song earlier in the season. All I noticed was that they switched up to a song in a minor chord. Seemed pretty obvious then. My co-worker had spoiled that there was something coming up called the Red Wedding, but I had hoped it would have been Joffrey's wedding. The way they teased Tyrell aiming that crossbow into the mirror back at Joffrey seemed like foreshadowing. Still, it was shocking and a little nauseating.

Irish
06-10-2013, 01:06 PM
Loved every scene with Tyrion.

Disappointed we didn't get more than 10 seconds of Jaime.

number8
06-10-2013, 02:31 PM
Blonde hair blue eyed white person being worshipped by a crowd of brown slaves makes me uncomfortable.

number8
06-10-2013, 03:23 PM
Anyway, Arya's scene was probably my favorite in that finale.

"Is this the first man you've ever killed?"
"...The first man. Yes."

The Hound don't even know, man.

Lucky
06-10-2013, 05:18 PM
Blonde hair blue eyed white person being worshipped by a crowd of brown slaves makes me uncomfortable.

I couldn't shake the offputting feeling either. It was an awkward end for me.

Lucky
06-10-2013, 05:22 PM
I think BOOK SPOILER Joffrey's dead body would have been a much more effective season closer. Especially after Tyrion and Cersei's exchange which will probably be forgotten by next year.

Kurosawa Fan
06-10-2013, 05:34 PM
Blonde hair blue eyed white person being worshipped by a crowd of brown slaves makes me uncomfortable.

Absolutely. Disappointing finale.

[ETM]
06-10-2013, 05:38 PM
Only if you really want to read it into the scene. The context is clear. Great finale in my book, except for the whole waiting one more year thing.

Kurosawa Fan
06-10-2013, 05:40 PM
Read into a scene in which a group of brown-skinned slaves call a white-skinned blonde woman mother before lifting her in the air and carrying her around? How can you not? The image was impossible to ignore. I half expected her to do the Jesus pose when they first lifted her lying down.

Raiders
06-10-2013, 05:47 PM
It's true... there should have been a bunch of caucasians out there in the middle of the desert.

[ETM]
06-10-2013, 05:49 PM
I may be naive, but it didn't even occur to me at the time. I fully separate the events in the fictional world from our own since there's no attempt at any kind of analogy by the author that I can tell. I guess the imagery on its own is problematic, but it's not on its own.

number8
06-10-2013, 05:54 PM
I'm not suggesting they should've made the slaves multicultural or deviate from the book or anything. I just have a gut reaction to the cliched enlightened-white-person-saves-brown-people trope, so ending a season on that image left me cold to what should have been an "omg can't wait for next year" moment.

Kurosawa Fan
06-10-2013, 06:28 PM
It's true... there should have been a bunch of caucasians out there in the middle of the desert.

Like 8, I'm not suggesting a change, just a different tone. And perhaps don't make that the last image of the season.

Watashi
06-10-2013, 08:57 PM
I kinda read the ending as ironic. I mean Dany is supposed to be the one person we WANT on the Iron Throne because she is kind and wants to free slaves, but it ends with her being worshiped like a God and it almost has an ominous feeling that she will be no different from the rest who sat on the throne.

But yeah, disappointing finale.

Dead & Messed Up
06-10-2013, 09:27 PM
I didn't think of that image until other people pointed it out online, but it's hard to not think of it in a racial context now. Watashi's comment makes some sense, though. Danaerys hasn't really had many ethical challenges, and the ones she's faced (should I free these slaves?) play like foregone conclusions, so the idea that she considers herself beyond reproach could hopefully lead to some interesting drahmas.

ledfloyd
06-10-2013, 11:00 PM
Can't fathom how anyone found that finale disappointing. The scenes between Tywin, Tyrion, and Cersei alone. I mean, come on.

number8
06-14-2013, 03:53 AM
Can't fathom how anyone found that finale disappointing. The scenes between Tywin, Tyrion, and Cersei alone. I mean, come on.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/03efbcbb6c2fa8319c48f9034b035a cb/tumblr_moc75yaCMR1qk2t5co1_500 .jpg

Derek
06-14-2013, 04:30 AM
:lol:

I would've guessed not bedding whores.

Morris Schæffer
08-15-2013, 05:36 PM
Have to be careful not to get spoiled here. I'm gonna watch episode nine very soon, but I'd like to get something cleared up about episode 8 and something that Jaimie Lannister said. He told, I believe, Brienne of Tarth, that he would ensure the Stark girls would be returned to their mother. Why would he say that? I get that Jaimie seems to be converting to the good side due to everything that happened to him, and I love Coster Waldau's performance, but did he have a deal with Lady Stark that I forgot about? Has he discarded all his allegiances to his King and Uncle Tywin in the blink of an eye?

Also, why did Lady Stark release Jaimie from captivity again?

Anyhow, that was Bart the Bear from the superb survival movie The Edge. Good to know he's still in the business. :)

Scar
08-15-2013, 05:41 PM
Have to be careful not to get spoiled here. I'm gonna watch episode nine very soon, but I'd like to get something cleared up about episode 8 and something that Jaimie Lannister said. He told, I believe, Brienne of Tarth, that he would ensure the Stark girls would be returned to their mother. Why would he say that? I get that Jaimie seems to be converting to the good side due to everything that happened to him, and I love Coster Waldau's performance, but did he have a deal with Lady Stark that I forgot about? Has he discarded all his allegiances to his King and Uncle Tywin in the blink of an eye?

Also, why did Lady Stark release Jaimie from captivity again?

Anyhow, that was Bart the Bear from the superb survival movie The Edge. Good to know he's still in the business. :)

Dude, Bart died in May 2000.

Raiders
08-15-2013, 05:59 PM
Have to be careful not to get spoiled here. I'm gonna watch episode nine very soon, but I'd like to get something cleared up about episode 8 and something that Jaimie Lannister said. He told, I believe, Brienne of Tarth, that he would ensure the Stark girls would be returned to their mother. Why would he say that? I get that Jaimie seems to be converting to the good side due to everything that happened to him, and I love Coster Waldau's performance, but did he have a deal with Lady Stark that I forgot about? Has he discarded all his allegiances to his King and Uncle Tywin in the blink of an eye?

Also, why did Lady Stark release Jaimie from captivity again?

You second question answers the first question.

He was released by her, and entrusted to Brienne, to be traded to the Lannisters for Arya and Sansa after Littlefinger advised her to do so. Hence Jaime pledges to Brienne he will uphold the barter and have the Stark girls released. He doesn't know any better that it will not be possible.

Morris Schæffer
08-15-2013, 06:40 PM
Dude, Bart died in May 2000.

Credits for Game of thrones said Bart the Bear. What can I say? I never thought there'd be two stuntbears called Bart the Bear in Hollywood. :lol:

Morris Schæffer
08-15-2013, 06:45 PM
You second question answers the first question.

He was released by her, and entrusted to Brienne, to be traded to the Lannisters for Arya and Sansa after Littlefinger advised her to do so. Hence Jaime pledges to Brienne he will uphold the barter and have the Stark girls released. He doesn't know any better that it will not be possible.

Ok. Isn't that kind of naieve on lady Stark's behalf to actually believe such a barter could ever take place? And Brienne is a mean looking woman, but still just one person, who was essentially headed into shitstorm Joffrey.

Raiders
08-15-2013, 07:21 PM
Ok. Isn't that kind of naieve on lady Stark's behalf to actually believe such a barter could ever take place? And Brienne is a mean looking woman, but still just one person, who was essentially headed into shitstorm Joffrey.

The Starks are naive. It's one of the tenets of the series.

number8
08-15-2013, 07:29 PM
The Starks are naive. It's one of the tenets of the series.

This will soon become obvious once he's watched ep 9. :lol:

Morris don't read.

Morris Schæffer
08-15-2013, 07:47 PM
Will not. :)

Morris Schæffer
08-23-2013, 05:08 AM
That was physically uncomfortable. :cry:

Morris Schæffer
08-23-2013, 10:52 AM
Anyhow, got some questions:

1) What happened to Edmure and his wife (Frey's daughter). Are we to assume they were executed off-screen?
2) What's Stannis' beef with the Stark's? I'm only assuming there's bad blood there. Maybe he's only at war with the Lannisters. I completely forgot what with all these factions.
3) Why is Theon being tortured? Solely because of his actions in season 2 where he attempted to capture I forgot the name and killed two children? Is the torturer really called Snow and therefore related to Jon Snow?

[ETM]
08-23-2013, 12:51 PM
1. Edmure is captured by Frey and very much alive.
2. Stannis considers himself the one true king, and has beef with anyone with a claim to power in Westeros.
3. Theon is captured by Roose Bolton's bastard son, Ramsay Snow (Bolton is the one who orchestrated the Red Wedding with Frey, for the Lannisters). "Snow" is the generic name given to bastards in the North. Theon is being tortured for information, although I don't blame you on that one, it's not exactly made clear in the show.

Raiders
08-23-2013, 12:56 PM
Anyhow, got some questions:

1) What happened to Edmure and his wife (Frey's daughter). Are we to assume they were executed off-screen?
2) What's Stannis' beef with the Stark's? I'm only assuming there's bad blood there. Maybe he's only at war with the Lannisters. I completely forgot what with all these factions.
3) Why is Theon being tortured? Solely because of his actions in season 2 where he attempted to capture I forgot the name and killed two children? Is the torturer really called Snow and therefore related to Jon Snow?

1. They were not killed.
2. His beef is that Robb Stark proclaimed himself King of the North when Stannis is the rightful king of Westeros.
3. "Snow" is the name for all bastards in the North. They have no real last name (not taking their father's). I can't remember if the show revealed anything else about Ramsay Snow beyond his name (don't want to tell you everything). In any case, the "reason" is really just because Theon was given over as a prisoner by his own men when they left Winterfell and Ramsay is a sadistic twat.

Edit: BAH ETM!

Kurosawa Fan
10-16-2013, 05:25 PM
Posting this here in case some of you don't check the YouTube thread. Easily the best Bad Lip Reading video I've ever seen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ

Russ
10-16-2013, 08:22 PM
Posting this here in case some of you don't check the YouTube thread. Easily the best Bad Lip Reading video I've ever seen.

Ferris: I groove to Kanye's stuff. Okaaaaay?

:P