2013 Oscars

[Scar]

Rudd and McCarthy is down right painful.

[DavidSeven]

I would have given it to Hoffman out of that group.

But Waltz is a better choice than De Niro and Jones, who I suppose were the betting favorites.

[Kurosawa Fan]

2 for 2!!

[Dukefrukem]

Madman is on the sauce again.

[MadMan]

Rudd and McCarthy is down right painful.Yep.

Adam and Dog should have won instead. Paperman was merely solid at best.

[MadMan]

Madman is on the sauce again.I'm 100% sober. You're just a fucking McDouchebag fan boy.

[Dukefrukem]

WHta!?@ Brave

[Dukefrukem]

I'm 100% sober. You're just a fucking McDouchebag fan boy.

What's your problem tonight?

[MadMan]

That's the only pick I've gotten right so far. Thanks PIXAR loving Oscar voters.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Ah, crap. 2 for 3. Stupid Brave.

[MadMan]

What's your problem tonight?You.

[Kurosawa Fan]

You.

Dude, knock it off please.

[Dukefrukem]

Ah, crap. 2 for 3. Stupid Brave.

The weakest Pixar movie ever gets the gold. Paranorman gets snubbed?

[MadMan]

Dude, knock it off please.I will if he does.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I will if he does.

If he does what? He's expressing his appreciation for the host. He isn't attacking you.

[MadMan]

Yes because saying I'm drunk isn't a personal attack. Whatever.

Anyways Roger Deakins got fucked over. Again.

[Dukefrukem]

I would have been happy with Skyfall winning too but Life of Pi was my pick. 2/4

[ThePlashyBubbler]

Poor Deakins. :(

[Dukefrukem]

I'm hopping for Hobbit.

[DavidSeven]

Well-deserved lensing and effects wins for Life of Pi.

One of the best looking films in recent memory.

[Dukefrukem]

Heh great touch with the Jaws theme!

[Sxottlan]

I recall there being some vague hopes from the people who put on the broadcast that including some more popular movies in the nominee list would boost ratings for the award show, but to demand that hundreds of people voting for their personal preferences by secret ballot all make a concerted effort to pick more blockbusters seems to me rather ridiculous.

I don't think anyone expected voters to make concerted efforts, but I believe there was the belief that the runners up would be more I dunno, varied.


What's more, the three best picture nominees I've seen have all been pretty diverse: a sombre depiction of a rich old lady falling apart and dying; a grim fairy tale about Louisiana squatters; and a loveable romantic comedy about delusional optimism that practically radiates good vibes.

Well yeah. I guess Oscar Bait is not yet an officially recognized genre.


Because I'm secure enough in my own taste that I don't need the validation of a bunch of strangers.

Can't have a discussion about awards without it devolving into something about insecurity.

[lwilson85]

I once tried to drink my Pi. It didn't turn out so well. I still wish Ang Lee would make The Hulk II: Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light.

[dreamdead]

Douche move with the Jaws theme in that moment where you're asking the audience to remember a colleague. That was horrible.

[Raiders]

Decent opening. Shatner was hilariously nonchalant.

[EyesWideOpen]

Great opening

[Dukefrukem]

Douche move with the Jaws theme in that moment where you're asking the audience to remember a colleague. That was horrible.

That was just bad timing.

[Dukefrukem]

The Academy is so predictable. Three noms and they give it to the musical.

[Winston*]

Well yeah. I guess Oscar Bait is not yet an officially recognized genre.


You think Amour or Beasts of the Southern Wild are Oscar bait?

[Sxottlan]

Ah yes. Using still images to feature nominees in the medium of motion picture.

[MadMan]

Rather asshole move of forcing him off the stage when he was trying to address VFX issues. You stay classy, Oscar dicks.

[Dukefrukem]

Hally Berry looks so good.

[MadMan]

Quality Bond tribute montage. Hurray.

[Sxottlan]

Strong finish Shirley!

[Winston*]

Hearing some contradictory reports about the quality of this Oscars ceremony.

What's the verdict: not too bad or fucking shit you fuck?

[Sxottlan]

You think Amour or Beasts of the Southern Wild are Oscar bait?

Amour? No. Retracted. Southern Wild? Getting there. SLP? Yeah.

[Dukefrukem]

Hearing some contradictory reports about the quality of this Oscars ceremony.

What's the verdict: not too bad or fucking shit you fuck?

IMO, this is what the Oscar needs. Young charming host with an edge. It's not coming off too well for the common folk.

[Dukefrukem]

Who wants to bet that was Quentin with the last clap?

[MadMan]

IMO, this is what the Oscar needs. Young charming host with an edge. It's not coming off too well for the common folk.Some of us just don't like smary unfunny douchebags, that's all.




Strong finish Shirley! She was great.

[slqrick]

Kerry Washington looks great.

[Mr. McGibblets]

I thought the opening was funny, but it was very Macfarlane-centric.

[Dukefrukem]

Ha.


OK, here’s what really happened with this tribute to 50 years of James Bond films. Besides the fact it looks like it was edited with a blunt meat cleaver. The Academy and the show’s producers hoped to gather together all the living 007 actors. But Sean Connery refused to come because he hates the Broccoli family. Something about how he thinks they cheated him out of money he was owed. Then Pierce Brosnan refused to come because he hates the Broccoli family as well. Something about how he thinks they pulled him from the role too early. Roger Moore was dying to come because, well, he’s a sweetheart. And Daniel Craig would have come because he does what he’s told by the Broccoli family’s Eon Productions whose Bond #23 Skyfall just went through the box office global roof. So there you have it

[Sxottlan]

Probably because I'm a Bond fanatic, but I wanted more from that tribute. Couldn't get any of the 007s? Seemed more about the music.

[Sxottlan]

Great sentiment, but ironic to talk about giving artists a voice and then the subject doesn't get the chance to say anything?

[ThePlashyBubbler]

Classic Neesons.

[Scar]

The opening felt rather uncomfortable.

[MadMan]

They completely overlooked Dalton. The Bond montage could have been a hell of a lot better. Also Duke none of that info surprises me. Poor Roger Moore.

[Mr. McGibblets]

Really telegraphed that John Wilkes Booth joke.

[Dukefrukem]

Really telegraphed that John Wilkes Booth joke.

Totally. Same with the Kardashian one.

[MadMan]

Ben Affleck with the good dig at McDouche.

[Sven]

The theory is that someone spiked the punch with bath salts.

[Sxottlan]

A dig at Prometheus. The evening is not lost.

[Dukefrukem]

That's about right. #Amour

[Sxottlan]

The orchestra isn't even there?

[Lucky]

Cinema Paradiso score snippet, nice!

[Dukefrukem]

The orchestra isn't even there?

LOL! I was just about to post that. Why isn't it there?

[Dukefrukem]

I love Chicago

[Kurosawa Fan]

I miss the days when Catherine Zeta Jones was nowhere to be found.

[MadMan]

Thanks Oscars for reminding me why I lost faith in you in the first place. Chicago shouldn't have even been nominated in 2003, let alone winning Best Picture.

[Dukefrukem]

IS this the Tony's now? What is going on?

[MadMan]

I'm now reminded why I didn't bother to watch Dreamgirls.

[Mr. McGibblets]

I like a bunch of the songs from Dreamgirls, but this one is not good.

[Neclord]

So are they going to sing any of this year's song nominees, or just stick with golden oldies?

[Sxottlan]

I miss the days when Catherine Zeta Jones was nowhere to be found.

Her track sounded exactly like from the film's trailer. Had to be lip-synched.

[MadMan]

Les Mes: a movie no one on this website wanted to see (okay maybe most everyone).

[Mr. McGibblets]

Russell Crowe does not look good.

[Lucky]

I miss the days when Catherine Zeta Jones was nowhere to be found.

I was actually pretty impressed she could sing live. Unless that was prerecorded.

And there goes Jennifer Hudson repeating the only relevant 3 minutes of her career.

[Lucky]

Ok, Zoe Saldana, you're the big winner in my book tonight.

[MadMan]

This is what I get for liking Ted. Fuck.

[MadMan]

Okay the Ted-Wahlberg bit was funny.

[Dukefrukem]

How'd they do that Ted animation?

[MadMan]

How'd they do that Ted animation?I'm curious about that myself.

[Dukefrukem]

The first tie in Academy history? Has to be right?

[MadMan]

A tie? What the hell? This is soccer and hockey all over again.

[transmogrifier]

It's happened before, I'm guessing

[Neclord]

Is this even legal?

[Sxottlan]

Skyfall!

[Dukefrukem]

It's happened before, I'm guessing

Twice I guess.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Has_there_ever_been_a_tie_in_A cademy_award_history

[Neclord]

Zey're gone!

[number8]

Anyone other than Anne Hathaway winning would be a fucking joke.

[Dukefrukem]

Anne Hathaway's teeth look so fake.

[number8]

Boom.

[MadMan]

I knew he couldn't resist a lame Nazi joke. Christopher Plummer looked ready to beat his ass.

[Dukefrukem]

This is where she breaths heavy during her speech.

[ContinentalOp]

Damn, she is a bore.

[transmogrifier]

I really like Jacki Weaver, but she had nothing to do in SLP. Must have been a bad year for supporting actresses.

[Sxottlan]

"Okay, so we're going to need a Nazi uniform for the show. Check the costumes in the basement."

[number8]

I really like Jacki Weaver, but she had nothing to do in SLP. Must have been a bad year for supporting actresses.

Yeah, super weak category this year. I don't think anyone was at all surprised by the Hathaway win. The energy in the room when it was announced was a "Well, obviously."

[Mr. McGibblets]

Anne Hathaway doesn't get the Jaws music?

[transmogrifier]

Yeah, super weak category this year. I don't think anyone was at all surprised by the Hathaway win. The energy in the room when it was announced was a "Well, obviously."

Even Amy Adams' role was way weaker than I had expected. No way I would have nominated her.

[slqrick]

I think the Christoph win will end up being the only surprise tonight.

[MadMan]

Anne Hathaway doesn't get the Jaws music?No but after she left they randomly played the Godfather theme.

[DavidSeven]

Anne Hathaway doesn't get the Jaws music?

Winners in the acting categories and for directing usually get more time, I think.

[Dukefrukem]

Winners in the acting categories and for directing usually get more time, I think.

It's because we generally don't give a shit about who the costume designer has to thank.

[number8]

Winners in the acting categories and for directing usually get more time, I think.

The actors always get the most time. More than Director and BP. It's because they figure that those are the only acceptance speeches that television audiences care about (they are right).

[number8]

Is it just me or has Seth MacFarlane not watched any movie in the last decade?

Yes, when I think of Sandra Bullock, I totally think of 28 Days.

[ThePlashyBubbler]

The guy from Zimbabwe who won that student contest is a friend of mine! Tatendaaaaaaaaa

[number8]

Fuck I love this song.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Is it just me or has Seth MacFarlane not watched any movie in the last decade?

Yes, when I think of Sandra Bullock, I totally think of 28 Days.

He just needed it to support the joke he wanted to tell.

Really, sorry Duke, but he's been pretty bad. His insecurity shows in the way he feels it's necessary to point out his jokes after he tells them, as if he thinks he's better than this material just in case it falls flat.

[Dukefrukem]

When I see Jennifer Lawrence, I keep thinking of the honest Hunger Games trailer when they talk about "her stupid face".

[Mr. McGibblets]

Are they not going to perform any of the other nominated songs?

[Dukefrukem]

He just needed it to support the joke he wanted to tell.

Really, sorry Duke, but he's been pretty bad. His insecurity shows in the way he feels it's necessary to point out his jokes after he tells them.

You don't have to apologize to me. The show has definitely took a hit since the opening (which I liked) and I still think it's better overall than last year. Last year's was so god damn boring. I like how he laughs at his own jokes.

[Dukefrukem]

This is my first time seeing what Adel looks like. I always thought she was black.

[EyesWideOpen]

As someone who has zero interest in bond films this bond stuff is putting me to sleep. No thanks Adele.

[TGM]

As someone who has zero interest in bond films this bond stuff is putting me to sleep. No thanks Adele.

Oh damn, so I'm NOT the only one!

[number8]

By the way, it's annoying that I had to avoid reading people's livetweets because some people on my feed were livetweeting Walking Dead.

[Dukefrukem]

By the way, it's annoying that I had to avoid reading people's livetweets because some people on my feed were livetweeting Walking Dead.

Live tweeting a TV series is wrong.

[Scar]

By the way, it's annoying that I had to avoid reading people's livetweets because some people on my feed were livetweeting Walking Dead.

Someone just said that on my Facebook feed.

Oh, wait....

[Lucky]

Vertigo score snippet now, this conductor has impeccable taste.

[Mr. McGibblets]

Really spoiler-laden montage for SLP

[MadMan]

I'm buying Django Unchained when it comes out. Or at least considering it.

Also I knew Adele was white all along :|

[Sxottlan]

So that's how Django Unchained ended.

[number8]

Why'd they play the Harry Potter theme instead of the Twilight one? Sexism.

[transmogrifier]

Really spoiler-laden montage for SLP

It'll save some from having to suffer through it. Zing!

[Kurosawa Fan]

My wife just now (though in fairness, she wasn't looking at the screen):

"He isn't really married to Adele, is he?"

[Dukefrukem]

OK watching the rest in bed. Night MC.

[DavidSeven]

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[number8]

Hal Needham getting an Oscar is pretty boss.

[number8]

This is not the way I wanted to see a Beastie Boys shoutout at the Oscars.

[megladon8]

Was Kristen Stewart high?

[number8]

Was Kristen Stewart high?

No, she's always like that.

[MadMan]

Hal Needham getting an Oscar is pretty boss.Hell yeah it was.

God I hate Barb. She's awful.

[megladon8]

She's always high?

[number8]

I don't think it's very cool to single out one dead guy over the others by getting Barbura to give a tribute.

[MadMan]

In Memorial was good until Walking Dead Woman showed up.

[megladon8]

If MatchCut is ever going to close down forever, I hope someone will suddenly break into song in the middle of a heartfelt speech about how, with everyone who has come and gone here, the one thing we all share is the...

Memories...

[Sxottlan]

So they still have 7 more to go by my count. No way can they do that in 25 minutes.

Overtime!

[Sxottlan]

Enough with this Chicago crap!

[number8]

Oy. I'm not sure if that Rex Reed joke was making fun of Reed or Adele. Could've been better.

[Mr. McGibblets]

"game-changing"?

[MadMan]

If MatchCut is ever going to close down forever, I hope someone will suddenly break into song in the middle of a heartfelt speech about how, with everyone who has come and gone here, the one thing we all share is the...

Memories...So Barb will sing about us? Shiittt.

Also the more they remind me about Chicago, the less I like that movie. Stop it Academy.

[megladon8]

Seth MacFarlane is just not funny at all.

[Sxottlan]

Anyone else think the theme from Lincoln is just a variation on Williams' own Saving Private Ryan?

[MadMan]

I'm rooting for either Adele or the song from Ted to win.

[number8]

So does anyone know how Skyfall could be eligible, even though it uses a sample?

[megladon8]

I'm more perplexed by the idea of a "tie".

Like, WTF?

[MadMan]

Goddamn Charlize Theron looks amazing. Also I'm reminded that Dustin Hoffman is still cool.

[number8]

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[MadMan]

305895808790843392Hah I saw that tweet.

Django Unchained winning again=awesome.

[Sxottlan]

Nice! Tarantino for the win!

[number8]

Tarantino with the best speech opener.

[Mr. McGibblets]

Nice surprise win.

[MadMan]

Hurray for QT winning. They better not give him the Jaws theme treatment or he'll go apeshit haha.

[slqrick]

Hahhh Tarantino's speech.

[Sxottlan]

Tarantino actually stopped the orchestra.

[TGM]

Seriously, more people could learn how to write an acceptance speech from Tarantino.

[dreamdead]

Still think that Django is one of Tarantino's weakest scripts... but since he'll never win a Best Director, I guess that's fine.

[MadMan]

QT thanked the other nominees and mentioned them. Love that he also shut up attempts to boot him off stage.

[number8]

David O. Russell looks like an old lady.

[transmogrifier]

Still think that Django is one of Tarantino's weakest scripts... but since he'll never win a Best Director, I guess that's fine.

It is. So many dead spots.

[MadMan]

Damnit I should have gone with Ang Lee. I told my dad to pick him to win but didn't take my own advice (I had him as a Dark Horse). I went with Spielberg.

[DavidSeven]

Wow. Unexpected, but he deserved the most out of the group from what I've seen (haven't seen Amour). Lee directed the hell out of that movie.

[Morris Schæffer]

Ang lee! I can dig it.

[number8]

Jean Dujardin is such a bore.

[MadMan]

I'm glad that Spielberg lost. And yes this was the Oscars saying "Sorry" for him losing to both Gladiator and Crash.

[dreamdead]

Man, I feel like I should watch Taking Woodstock now.

[number8]

I hope Alphabet Wallis wins.

[number8]

:|

[DavidSeven]

Don't really get it.

[MadMan]

Oscars had to make a typical pick because people were getting too surprised. Was the easiest Oscar category to pick besides Animated Movie.

[dreamdead]

Oh, Lawrence. May your career be better than Renee Zellweger's going forward. Methinks you're getting it far too early...

[transmogrifier]

Irish can be taken off suicide watch now.

[Sxottlan]

So they show probably Cooper's worst acting in the film for his clip.

[Sxottlan]

Phoenix just shakes his head.

[TGM]

HA! She didn't even have to open the envelope to know that DDL won! XD

[MadMan]

HA! She didn't even have to open the envelope to know that DDL won! XDYeah I noticed that. It was so damn obvious.

[number8]

What the fuck is this.

[dreamdead]

LINCOLN?

[MadMan]

Jack is hilarious. This is just weird, though.

[number8]

Just had my biggest laugh tonight because of this:

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[Sxottlan]

It's that guy from Twister and Congo!

[MadMan]

Ben Affleck got the Oscar despite not being nominated. Amazing.

[Grouchy]

Fucking Argo? Argo-Fuck-Yourself? Lame.

[Sxottlan]

"My wife, whom I do not normally associate with Iran."

[DavidSeven]

Not big on his movie, but that was a heck of a speech from Affleck. Gotta hand it to him.

[Morris Schæffer]

Good for Ben. It's a cool win. And it got Walter White on stage!

[MadMan]

I'll come back two-three decades from now and tell you what movie really deserved to win Best Picture.

[amberlita]

It's that guy from Twister and Congo!

Don't forget True Lies.

Weird weird Oscars tonight. Not a big fan of Argo, but I'm really happy for Ben Affleck, so whatever.

[MadMan]

Don't forget True Lies.

Weird weird Oscars tonight. Not a big fan of Argo, but I'm really happy for Ben Affleck, so whatever.Hah yeah he was in True Lies. Now he's a producer for a Best Picture winner.

[number8]

Yeah I'm not that excited about the BP nominees anyway, so at least we got a good speech out of it.

[Lucky]

Seth wasn't so bad. Dude has a serious voice.

[slqrick]

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She's a great sport.

[Ezee E]

Alright, time to look forward to Cannes now.

[baby doll]

I don't think anyone expected voters to make concerted efforts, but I believe there was the belief that the runners up would be more I dunno, varied.

Well yeah. I guess Oscar Bait is not yet an officially recognized genre.

Can't have a discussion about awards without it devolving into something about insecurity.Isn't that what it really comes down to: Your insecurities vs. the Academy's? You like franchise movies and you want the Academy to validate this kind of filmmaking so that you don't have to feel embarrassed about watching super-hero movies, whereas one of the primary functions of the Oscars is to validate the US film industry by honoring films that tackle a big theme (slavery, the French and Iranian revolutions, mental illness, etc.) or have a certain literary prestige associated with them (The Life of Pi)--you know, Oscar bait.

[Irish]

Seth wasn't so bad. Dude has a serious voice.

^^ THIS!! Reminded me, somehow, of a weird cross between Ed Sullivan and Johnny Carson. He looked great in the tux. His manner was comfortable and friendly. Some of the jokes fell flat.

But he should host every year.

[Irish]

ALSO: BIG WTF for the evening.

I should have listened to the pundits. They were right on the money for EVERY. SINGLE. MAJOR. AWARD.

There were no real surprises, were there? Everything played out like they predicted.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I thought MacFarlane did a fine job. I got a kick out of that silly The Sound of Music bit. Liked the sock puppets and the Shatner back and forth. The whole "theme" thing with music didn't work too well. Just slowed everything down. I haven't seen many of the nominees this year, but I was happy "Paperman" won.

Worst bit was Anne beginning her speech with "...it came true." I wanna bop her on the nose with a newspaper.

A good time was had.

[Sxottlan]

Isn't that what it really comes down to: Your insecurities vs. the Academy's? You like franchise movies and you want the Academy to validate this kind of filmmaking so that you don't have to feel embarrassed about watching super-hero movies.

Not sure why you're trying to make this personal (unless you mean a general "you"). I'm quite secure in my likes and dislikes thanks. You're free to believe whatever you'd like. I'm certainly not embarrassed to say that I think The Avengers is the best film of last year. It's the Academy's loss. I just think it more than a little hypocritical that this industry depends on these huge moneymakers to keep going but then don't recognize them enough "properly" (as was mentioned more than once during tonight's show). And I'm certainly not the only one to notice certain genres are almost regularly missing from the prestigious categories. Even when there's candidates that audiences love, but then there's strangely no cross-over with actual voters.

[Pop Trash]

Worst bit was Anne beginning her speech with "...it came true." I wanna bop her on the nose with a newspaper.


But she dreamed a dream DAMU. She dreamed a motherfuckin' DREAM!

[Dead & Messed Up]

But she dreamed a dream DAMU. She dreamed a motherfuckin' DREAM!

I doubt very much that her character in The Miserables was dreaming about a damn Oscar.

[Fezzik]

I'm more perplexed by the idea of a "tie".

Like, WTF?


I looked it up to see what that was about. Apparently, if the choice in 2nd place finishes three or fewer votes behind the winner, a tie is declared.

But, that said, when Streisand and Hepburn tied in 1969, they had the same EXACT number of votes. Its the only time that's happened.

[MadMan]

ALSO: BIG WTF for the evening.

I should have listened to the pundits. They were right on the money for EVERY. SINGLE. MAJOR. AWARD.

There were no real surprises, were there? Everything played out like they predicted.I was surprised by Ang Lee and QT winning. I don't think either one was that predictable, and I actually was expecting Skyfall to lose out to the song from Les Mis.

Seth was crappy, but he isn't the worst host in Oscar history. I think that goes to James Franco.

[chrisnu]

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[Watashi]

I liked when Chicago won Best Picture.

[Watashi]

http://i.imgur.com/MdbcNJm.jpg

I love Jennifer Lawrence so much. She's my new favorite thing.

[MadMan]

I've been a fan of her since I saw Winter's Bone back in 2010.

[Kiusagi]

MacFarlane exceeded my expectations. Nothing too special, but I laughed at more of his jokes than not. It seemed like a lot of bloggers had already decided they were going to hate him, thus a lot on snark on Twitter.

[Kiusagi]

And yes, can Jennifer Lawrence get any more lovable? Well, yes, she probably can with whatever it is she does next. But still. She's adorable.

[[ETM]]

Jennifer Lawrence is probably one of the few celebrities who are on Celebrity Exception lists for both women and men equally.

[The Bad Guy]

I've been a fan of her since I saw Winter's Bone back in 2010.

Same

I personally wouldn't have had her as my #1 actress this year, but she's incredibly talented and awesome. I was happy to see her get the win (even if it should have been for Winter's Bone two years ago).

[Irish]

Did anyone else's heart just burst in their chest when she tripped on her dress? And who was that White Knight that came forwaed, briefly, to help her? Jackson?

[baby doll]

Not sure why you're trying to make this personal (unless you mean a general "you"). I'm quite secure in my likes and dislikes thanks. You're free to believe whatever you'd like. I'm certainly not embarrassed to say that I think The Avengers is the best film of last year. It's the Academy's loss. I just think it more than a little hypocritical that this industry depends on these huge moneymakers to keep going but then don't recognize them enough "properly" (as was mentioned more than once during tonight's show). And I'm certainly not the only one to notice certain genres are almost regularly missing from the prestigious categories. Even when there's candidates that audiences love, but then there's strangely no cross-over with actual voters.That's why there's the MTV Movie Awards. Lots of people loved the Twilight films and they raked in tons of cash at the box office, yet they weren't nominated for any Oscars.

[Morris Schæffer]

^^ THIS!! Reminded me, somehow, of a weird cross between Ed Sullivan and Johnny Carson. He looked great in the tux. His manner was comfortable and friendly. Some of the jokes fell flat.

But he should host every year.

in a perfect world, triumph the dog should host every year.

[Sxottlan]

Lots of people loved the Twilight films and they raked in tons of cash at the box office, yet they weren't nominated for any Oscars.

Because apparently they must have thought the Twilight films were not up to muster. I wouldn't know as I never saw them.

However, there was at least whispers of these two films in the award circles. Let's not get obtuse and pretend there wasn't a difference between Twilight and say, The Avengers. Exaggerate if you want to make the point. I'll play along. Twilight seemed to lack that something that got the buzz going that Avengers and Skyfall had. Didn't reach as wide or as diverse of an audience. Not as much history in the pop culture. Did not involve as popular a cast. Did not seem to inspire its audience to actually admit to people that they saw and loved the movie. Again, there seemed to be several valid reasons even besides money and critical reaction (both of which The Avengers and Skyfall had more of than Twilight) that I already touched on back in my original post.

But hey, Skyfall got as many Oscars as Lincoln did, so I'm happy. :)

[Dukefrukem]

ALSO: BIG WTF for the evening.

I should have listened to the pundits. They were right on the money for EVERY. SINGLE. MAJOR. AWARD.

There were no real surprises, were there? Everything played out like they predicted.

Ang Lee as director was predicted? Well I know I predicted it but...

[baby doll]

Because apparently they must have thought the Twilight films were not up to muster. I wouldn't know as I never saw them.

However, there was at least whispers of these two films in the award circles. Let's not get obtuse and pretend there wasn't a difference between Twilight and say, The Avengers. Exaggerate if you want to make the point. I'll play along. Twilight seemed to lack that something that got the buzz going that Avengers and Skyfall had. Didn't reach as wide or as diverse of an audience. Not as much history in the pop culture. Did not involve as popular a cast. Did not seem to inspire its audience to actually admit to people that they saw and loved the movie. Again, there seemed to be several valid reasons even besides money and critical reaction (both of which The Avengers and Skyfall had more of than Twilight) that I already touched on back in my original post.

But hey, Skyfall got as many Oscars as Lincoln did, so I'm happy. :)I see what you're saying, but the purpose of the Oscars isn't to highlight the most popular movies of the year; it's to highlight some movies that make the industry look good, and while The Avengers and Skyfall were obviously both very popular, they don't have a pedigree that would make them seem Oscar-worthy. The ideal Oscar movie is something like Gone With the Wind, which was based on a somewhat prestigious book (as opposed to Marvel comics or an Ian Flemming spy novel), tackled a big subject (the American civil war), and is a film where you can see the money on the screen.

[Lucky]

I felt like the only locks were actor and supporting actress. I could have seen any of the other awards go to another choice without screams of upset.

[Dukefrukem]

What are all these reports of Hollywood hating Spielberg and they (the academy) continue to intentionally not vote for his movies?

[baby doll]

What are all these reports of Hollywood hating Spielberg and they (the academy) continue to intentionally not vote for his movies?He called Quvenzhané Wallis a cunt on Twitter.

[Dukefrukem]

He called Quvenzhané Wallis a cunt on Twitter.

What??

[Ezee E]

He called Quvenzhané Wallis a cunt on Twitter.

:lol:

[Fezzik]

Did anyone else's heart just burst in their chest when she tripped on her dress? And who was that White Knight that came forwaed, briefly, to help her? Jackson?

Both Bradley Cooper and Hugh Jackman jumped up to help her. :)

[Dukefrukem]

Generally positive reviews from the AP


Viewers could have gotten fair warning of what to expect from MacFarlane last fall when he hosted "Saturday Night Live" with skill.

But this Oscars hosting gig was the Main Event, and he earned a large measure of credit for keeping the show in satisfying equilibrium.

Yes, MacFarlane had his moments of dubious taste. What did anybody expect who'd ever spent a moment with "Family Guy"?

Especially on a night where everyone else seemed to be on their best behavior, MacFarlane's strategic misbehavior furnished welcome relief.

In interviews beforehand, he had spoken of his hope to strike a balance between respect for Hollywood and some necessary sass. Mission accomplished.

Back and forth went the routine: Bad Seth and Good Seth. Both were very funny, stewarding a broadcast that never went askew.

[slqrick]

I thought MacFarlane was fine in terms of keeping me awake throughout the broadcast, but nearly all attempts at "sass" and humor fell flat for me.

[Dukefrukem]

I thought MacFarlane was fine in terms of keeping me awake throughout the broadcast, but nearly all attempts at "sass" and humor fell flat for me.

It seemed liked he was trying really hard not to pull a Ricky Gervais. A happy medium.

[number8]

More or less. His routine was basically Billy Crystal with a younger, smarmier face.

[Ezee E]

-Didn't understand the tribute to musical stuff though. I understand Les Miserables, and that was easily the best portion. But why Dreamgirls and Chicago? If this were a tribute to the last 20 years of musicals, why no Moulin Rouge?

-Bond retrospective was alright, but only for the performance. The edited piece was kind of all over the place, and never really hit on the things that I think people love about Bond.

-BUT... the edited pieces of the Best Picture nominees was wonderful. Absolutely loved the Life of Pi/Beasts pieces. They were incredibly effective.

-Seth was alright. I like that he made fun of his own humor, but got to present it anyway, and got away with it. He's certainly an improvement over Billy Crystal who simply coasted last year based off his previous years. I have a feeling he won't be back again based on interviews.

[ledfloyd]

Perhaps it's because I was expecting him to be unbearably awful, but I felt like he was one of the best Oscar hosts of recent years, certainly since Jon Stewart hosted.

It's also fun watching the Oscars with people who have very little idea how any of the technical categories work. "I don't understand what's so impressive about Lincoln's cinematography, they just shot the film and put an Instagram filter on it."

[number8]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD9sQx9CAAAcTad.jpg:large

[baby doll]

-Didn't understand the tribute to musical stuff though. I understand Les Miserables, and that was easily the best portion. But why Dreamgirls and Chicago? If this were a tribute to the last 20 years of musicals, why no Moulin Rouge?

From Tom Shales' review of the show:


It seems a certainty that [the telecast's producers] Zadan and Meron won't be invited back to ruin another Oscar show (the term "Academy Awards" was all but banished from the program; apparently it's considered too stuffy for today's hip audience) and, perhaps knowing that, they managed to infest this year's with tributes to their own work, mainly the Broadway musical "Chicago" which they turned into a film. You'd think "Chicago" had been the equivalent of "Oklahoma!" combined with "Guys and Dolls" for all the fuss made about it.

[dreamdead]

Further, as the New York Times notes, this year's producers of the Oscars were also the producers of Chicago.

[number8]

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/02/25/1633981/why-seth-macfarlane-and-the-onions-jokes-about-quvenzhane-wallis-are-so-gross/?mobile=nc

[Raiders]

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/02/25/1633981/why-seth-macfarlane-and-the-onions-jokes-about-quvenzhane-wallis-are-so-gross/?mobile=nc


I am a little lost on the "whiteness" of Hollywood factoring in. We don't even know who tweeted from The Onion and MacFarlane's joke was lame and tasteless, but I don't think in the seedy way the author is making out; nor does race seem a pivotal role. I can't see him looking at her as a "young, black girl" and making the determination that she is more acceptable as the punchline to a joke that is directed at a 50 year-old notorious bachelor. There's quite a lot of insinuation in the article without the balls to actually make the accusations.

[chrisnu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TWLKP8j0zk

Guy on the left at :11

[Dead & Messed Up]

Further, as the New York Times notes, this year's producers of the Oscars were also the producers of Chicago.

And Hairspray, which explains its prominence when Travolta walked out. And NBC's Smash, which makes J-Hud's extended performance questionable, at least.

[number8]

I am a little lost on the "whiteness" of Hollywood factoring in. We don't even know who tweeted from The Onion and MacFarlane's joke was lame and tasteless, but I don't think in the seedy way the author is making out; nor does race seem a pivotal role. I can't see him looking at her as a "young, black girl" and making the determination that she is more acceptable as the punchline to a joke that is directed at a 50 year-old notorious bachelor. There's quite a lot of insinuation in the article without the balls to actually make the accusations.

Dunno. It's true, though, that I found a lot of MacFarlane's joke constructions really odd, and I think it was him tip-toeing to avoid being a Ricky Gervais. He cracked some jokes that sounded like it's directed at the powerful/deserving celebs, but ended up more schmoozing to them and using others as a prop in the joke. That one is actually a perfect example. It sounded like a crack at Clooney, but really, it does nothing to make fun of him (MacFarlane said old man Clooney has a rep for dating younger girls, how HUMILIATING for Clooney!), and it's not really a joke about Wallis because all it does with her is present a scenario that sexualizes her young age. It was the same thing with that Rex Reed thing I pointed out a few pages back. MacFarlane's joke sounded like a jab at Rex Reed, but it actually says nothing about Reed or the controversy. The joke is basically "Adele is so fat Rex Reed would make fun of her."

[number8]

Guy on the left at :11

Charlize Theron at :43 was how I felt about that opening.

[Spinal]

Not everything MacFarlane did worked for me, but he was never boring, I'll give him that. The Sound of Music reference was pretty hilarious I thought. Not the best host, not nearly the worst either.

[number8]

A (http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/an-open-letter-to-ang-lee/)n Open Letter to Ang Lee (http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/an-open-letter-to-ang-lee/)

[megladon8]

I was incredibly disappointed that Jackman did not win. That was the one thing I was looking forward to with the entire show. I love the guy, and I fear he may not get another chance.

However, if there is one thing I came away with after the show, it's that Jennifer Lawrence is really cool.

[number8]

A (http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/an-open-letter-to-ang-lee/)n Open Letter to Ang Lee (http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/an-open-letter-to-ang-lee/)

Here's a Variety article (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118066500/) about the protest going on outside the building last night.

And some photos (http://www.fxguide.com/quicktakes/visualeffectsprotestatoscars/) from the protest.

http://www.fxguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sign.jpg

http://www.fxguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/signpost-1024x628.jpg

[Robby P]

I never thought I would see the day when The Onion would issue a public apology and actually mean it.

[Dukefrukem]

So there's a bunch of crap on twitter complaining about Seth's use of the We Saw Your Boobs songs. Apparently four of the examples he used are rape scenes.

We have better things to complain about right?

[Lucky]

So the VFX ppl are looking for more money? I can't quite pull the main goal of the letter.

Edit: And why are these companies receiving government subsidies?

[number8]

Well, the great thing about complaints is that there's a limitless supply, so even if there are better things to complain about, nobody gets left out!

Fuck that song.

[Dukefrukem]

Well, the great thing about complaints is that there's a limitless supply, so even if there are better things to complain about, nobody gets left out!

Fuck that song.

Exactly my point. I mean, even the Ang Lee thing. How do people know his comments were not something that was lost in translation? I find it hard to believe he would be so carelessly dismissive among the team that built that film.

So we really are going to campaign for Seth's head because four movie rape scenes, who happen to be played by well known and attractive actresses, should be considered indecent comments?

We all have to complain about something... people are far too sensitive.

[D_Davis]

That song reminded me of two things:

1. Why I can't stand Seth MacFarlane
2. Why I don't watch the awards

[D_Davis]

Part of me understands the artists and their want for more money and credit, and part of me also thinks they should be happy for the fact that they're making money making their art.

As far as the credit goes, a lot of background people in all kinds of art never get the credit of the big names. Dozens of people work on albums, and it's usually just the writer/performer/producer that gets the credit. Same goes for stage productions.

That's one of the draws of those kinds of positions - you don't have to deal with the fame and spotlight. Those jobs are difficult, for sure, but they also don't have as much responsibility as the positions that get the most money and credit.

[Irish]

So we really are going to campaign for Seth's head because four movie rape scenes, who happen to be played by well known and attractive actresses, should be considered indecent comments?

We all have to complain about something... people are far too sensitive.

I think it can be argued that the "boobs" skit was inappropriate at an event like the Oscars. More than that, using clips from rape scenes is just gross. Incredibly gross. People reacting to that aren't being too sensitive. C'mon.

There was a pretty good article in the New Yorker about this skit earlier, although from a different angle:


The Academy is supposedly a trade group, and yet it devoted its opening number to degrading a good part of its membership. And who knows what the Los Angeles Gay Men’s Chorus thought that it was doing by serving as MacFarlane’s backup singers, but it’s hard not to wonder what the rhetorical point was meant to be. We saw your boobs, but that’s not even what we find attractive, so you exerted no power in doing so—all you did was humiliate yourself? Maybe that’s reading too much into it. It could be that MacFarlane just thought it would be funny for him to say the word “gay” as often as possible.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/seth-macfarlane-and-the-oscars-hostile-ugly-sexist-night.html

[Mr. McGibblets]

More than that, using clips from rape scenes is just gross. Incredibly gross. People reacting to that aren't being too sensitive. C'mon.

I think if one is watching the scene to see the boobs, he can tune out the rape. It's not real.

[Dukefrukem]

Clips?

[Dukefrukem]

I think if one is watching the scene to see the boobs, he can tune out the rape. It's not real.

It's not even about the scenes. It's about the actresses.

Furthermore it's a comedy bit. Are we really dissecting comedy?

[number8]

So the VFX ppl are looking for more money? I can't quite pull the main goal of the letter.

Edit: And why are these companies receiving government subsidies?

Not the American government. It's outsourcing.

The reason why so many VFX studios go bankrupt (Asylum, Digital Domain, The Orphanage and now Rhythm & Hues) is that the business works on a bidding model. Free market and all that. Effects houses continually underbid each other to the studios in the hopes of landing a movie gig, and the studio lets them to keep the budget down. The hope is that it would establish some kind of partnership that would last, but that's rarely the case because the studios have no problem chasing newer and cheaper VFX houses.

Local and federal governments in Asian, South American and Eastern European countries often have subsidy programs where they would offer studios all around the world huge taxpayer money if they would bring work to their region, and that's what studios have been doing. Instead of hiring all those great VFX houses that are now bankrupt, they outsource the work to cheaper foreign houses, and collect government subsidies at the same time. The big, name-recognized, American VFX houses, despite their awards and great work, simply cannot compete with that kind of money. So they're dying one by one.

In the context of why that letter was addressed to Ang Lee, it's simply ironic that the VFX house that made Life of Pi what it is went bankrupt while the director and cinematographer collect accolades (and the movie apparently being so profitable internationally). Especially when by all accounts, the visual effects made that movie's cinematography.

The argument is that VFX artists should get royalties of a movie's profits--same thing argued by screenwriters a few years back, except worse because there's no union for VFX artists to protect and fight for them the way the WGA did during the writer's strike

[Mr. McGibblets]

I think the reference to Scarlett Johansson (whose privacy was invaded) is much more offensive than a reference to a rape scene. That was the one that weirded me out while watching.

[Ezee E]

Well, the great thing about complaints is that there's a limitless supply, so even if there are better things to complain about, nobody gets left out!

Fuck that song.

Was that from the Boobs song?

[Dead & Messed Up]

Part of me understands the artists and their want for more money and credit, and part of me also thinks they should be happy for the fact that they're making money making their art.

I don't think these two are mutually exclusive.

[D_Davis]

I don't think these two are mutually exclusive.

True, but they sometimes are. Complaining often means that you aren't really happy. But point taken.

[Robby P]

Isn't the obvious solution for the Visual Effects nerds to unionize?

[Dead & Messed Up]

Isn't the obvious solution for the Visual Effects nerds to unionize?

Maybe then people will treat these dorks with the respect they deserve.

[Winston*]

Of all the Charlize Theron films, why pick Monster?