Holy Shit :: Heath Ledger Found Dead [Archive]

Ezee E

01-22-2008, 09:07 PM

I was just commenting, like, two days ago how I thought he was fast becoming one of his generation's best. New York Times article (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/). Sounds like suicide.

I'm surprised at how much this is upsetting me.
Yeah. Pills laying around.

Yuck.

Silencio

01-22-2008, 09:08 PM

OMFG

shaun

01-22-2008, 09:08 PM

Pretty crazy. He was good actor.

Dukefrukem

01-22-2008, 09:08 PM

Were they done filming DK? That movie was gonna make him bigger than ever.

Kurosawa Fan

01-22-2008, 09:14 PM

I'm floored by this news. Wow. Just awful.

R.I.P.

Velocipedist

01-22-2008, 09:14 PM

Were they done filming DK? That movie was gonna make him bigger than ever.

Not only that: yet another Terry Gilliam project is being hijacked.

Sad news.

dreamdead

01-22-2008, 09:21 PM

Good actor. Terrible shame. WTF's with him at Olsen's apartment, though?

I really hope that the Oscars, if they are a go, don't cut awkwardly to Michelle Williams if she's in the audience. That'd be kinda awkward.

ledfloyd

01-22-2008, 09:24 PM

Were they done filming DK? That movie was gonna make him bigger than ever.
i seem to recall reading he struggled with fame. maybe he didn't see that as a good thing.

i just stumbled across this news on another board and had to reread it a few times to make sure i was reading it right. it's a huge loss. his performances in brokeback mountain and i'm not there are both fantastic. i expect great things from dark knight. it's a shame that will be it for his career. it will certainly make watching it an odd experience.

RIP hope you're happier wherever you are.

Wryan

01-22-2008, 09:28 PM

Goddamit. This is just....goddamit!

Ivan Drago

01-22-2008, 09:35 PM

Were they done filming DK? That movie was gonna make him bigger than ever.

Yes. It's in post-production now.

Anyway, R.I.P. I'm just...stunned. Totally stunned.

Rowland

01-22-2008, 09:42 PM

A shame.

Not only that: yet another Terry Gilliam project is being hijacked.I hate to say it, but this made me laugh.

Sometimes laughter is the best medicine.

Scar

01-22-2008, 09:43 PM

Holy. Shit.

jenniferofthejungle

01-22-2008, 09:43 PM

This is beyond shocking. His poor family....

R.I.P.

Velocipedist

01-22-2008, 09:45 PM

I hate to say it, but this made me laugh.

Sometimes laughter is the best medicine.

Sorry, I know; I didn't mean to trivialize anything, of course.

Rowland

01-22-2008, 09:47 PM

Sorry, I know; I didn't mean to trivialize anything, of course.That's nothing to apologize for. Hell, I'll admit that my first thought was how the Batman producers will respond to the news.

Qrazy

01-22-2008, 09:48 PM

I hope Nolan doesn't take this on himself for putting him into the screwed up psyche of the Joker.

Doclop

01-22-2008, 09:51 PM

I'm surprised at how much this is upsetting me.
Me, too. I'm having a hard time digesting this. So sucky. Love(d) him.

Velocipedist

01-22-2008, 09:51 PM

Weird that this comes less than a week after Brad Renfro's passing away...

Doclop

01-22-2008, 09:52 PM

The speculation on Fox News is pretty horrible and presumptuous. No surprise there, I guess, but still...

Eleven

01-22-2008, 09:55 PM

Wow. R.I.P. I always liked him, it'll be oddly bittersweet to watch Dark Knight and I'm Not There now.

MadMan

01-22-2008, 09:56 PM

He was so young.....its really a damn shame. RIP.

Boner M

01-22-2008, 10:01 PM

Weird that this comes less than a week after Brad Renfro's passing away...
End of an era! :cry:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

monolith94

01-22-2008, 10:04 PM

RIP

Buffaluffasaurus

01-22-2008, 10:06 PM

What a terrible, terrible tragedy. This has really shocked me, not because of his nationality (and the fact I know many people who have worked with him - hell, just last year I cut together a showreel for an actor friend who appeared on a TV series here with him), but the fact that he was rapidly becoming one of the best actors of his generation.

It saddens me to think of how his family and young daughter will cope with this, and for all the great acting work the world will now miss out on.

Lasse

01-22-2008, 10:11 PM

It saddens me to think of how his family and young daughter will cope with this, and for all the great acting work the world will now miss out on.

Agreed.

RIP to him, and best wishes to family and friends.

EDIT: I feel like an ass for asking this, but how will they work around this in a future Batman film? I wouldn't want to be the replacement actor if they keep the character in. Imagine how powerful the scene will be if the Joker dies in TDK. Wow.

Ivan Drago

01-22-2008, 10:25 PM

Wow. R.I.P. I always liked him, it'll be oddly bittersweet to watch Dark Knight and I'm Not There now.

I have a feeling that Warner Bros. will not release The Dark Knight now out of respect. But that's the pessimist in me talking.

Skitch

01-22-2008, 10:26 PM

This is horrible.

I'm so pissed off right now...WTF?

KK2.0

01-22-2008, 10:26 PM

this news were baffling to say the least, don't recall any history about drugs or depression related to him so, this came out of nowhere...

what a tragedy :cry:

Raiders

01-22-2008, 10:27 PM

:eek:

This just feels so weird. He was only 28 and one of the rising stars in Hollywood who deserved the fame.

Between this and Owen Wilson, I guess it is amazing how sheltered we are from celebrity's true personal traumas while force-fed the inane bullshit of the likes of Paris Hilton.

Rowland

01-22-2008, 10:27 PM

I have a feeling that Warner Bros. will not release The Dark Knight now out of respect. But that's the pessimist in me talking.Hah. No way would that happen, dude. The pessimist in you should be wondering how they will spin this to their advantage.

origami_mustache

01-22-2008, 10:27 PM

:(

I don't like many actors, but I actually liked him.

Raiders

01-22-2008, 10:28 PM

I have a feeling that Warner Bros. will not release The Dark Knight now out of respect. But that's the pessimist in me talking.

Of course they'll release it. The Crow got released, didn't it? This will just give it some outside levity.

Scar

01-22-2008, 10:28 PM

Hah. No way would that happen, dude. The pessimist in you should be wondering how they will spin this to their advantage.

Correct.

shaun

01-22-2008, 10:30 PM

I have a feeling that Warner Bros. will not release The Dark Knight now out of respect. But that's the pessimist in me talking.Yeah, companies that answer to shareholders don't walk away from hundreds of millions out of respect.

Duncan

01-22-2008, 10:31 PM

Ah, I tried to rep that post, Boner.

origami_mustache

01-22-2008, 10:37 PM

Ah, I tried to rep that post, Boner.

I was going to comment on it too haha.

Dukefrukem

01-22-2008, 10:39 PM

Do you think a lot of people maybe gave him a hard time for his gay role in BM? And he finally just cracked??

origami_mustache

01-22-2008, 10:40 PM

Do you think a lot of people maybe gave him a hard time for his gay role in BM? And he finally just cracked??

Not at all.

megladon8

01-22-2008, 10:40 PM

This is terrible...I can't believe this happened.

RIP, and my deepest symapthies to his young daughter.

Buffaluffasaurus

01-22-2008, 10:40 PM

Do you think a lot of people maybe gave him a hard time for his gay role in BM? And he finally just cracked??
I think that's exactly why he did it.

Just think... every day of his life he would have to contend with people coming up to him and going, "Ew... you kissed Donnie Darko!!!"

Winston*

01-22-2008, 10:42 PM

What the hell, Duke?

Sad news.

baby doll

01-22-2008, 10:47 PM

Wow. R.I.P. I always liked him, it'll be oddly bittersweet to watch Dark Knight and I'm Not There now.Yeah, I just saw I'm Not There again a few days ago.

Dukefrukem

01-22-2008, 10:48 PM

What the hell, Duke?

Sad news.

What?? It was an honest question. I hear crap liek that all the time;

"hey man don't go brokeback on me"... people use it every day. imagine what the actors are going through??

Boner M

01-22-2008, 10:51 PM

imagine what the actors are going through??
Almost feel like repping this.

MacGuffin

01-22-2008, 10:53 PM

This is really bad news.

R.I.P.

Mr. Valentine

01-22-2008, 10:57 PM

What?? It was an honest question. I hear crap liek that all the time;

"hey man don't go brokeback on me"... people use it every day. imagine what the actors are going through??

i think your hanging around the wrong type of people. i might have heard one or two "joking" brokeback remarks from people in the 2+ years since the movie came out but c'mon.

but back to topic, my wife told me as i walked in the door and i was stunned. one of my favorites.

MacGuffin

01-22-2008, 10:59 PM

Yeah, I just saw I'm Not There again a few days ago.

Lucky you. Did it still hold up alright?

Dukefrukem

01-22-2008, 11:03 PM

i think your hanging around the wrong type of people. i might have heard one or two "joking" brokeback remarks from people in the 2+ years since the movie came out but c'mon.

but back to topic, my wife told me as i walked in the door and i was stunned. one of my favorites.

What i mean is South Park, Family Guy, comedians... they all joke about it. My crowd of people is perfectly fine, thank you for your concern.

KK2.0

01-22-2008, 11:15 PM

I don't think hearing jokes about brokeback would've led anyone to suicide, c'mon. :rolleyes:

He recently divorced from his wife, right? Maybe that was actually difficult to endure...

baby doll

01-22-2008, 11:23 PM

Lucky you. Did it still hold up alright?Yeah, of course.

MacGuffin

01-22-2008, 11:24 PM

Yeah, of course.

I can imagine; what an utterly amazing movie.

Bosco B Thug

01-22-2008, 11:30 PM

Wow, this is absolutely tragic. I can hardly believe it, and I'm devastated The Dark Knight will be the last performance of his I'll be able to look forward to.

Dukefrukem

01-22-2008, 11:38 PM

I don't think hearing jokes about brokeback would've led anyone to suicide, c'mon. :rolleyes:

Just a theory. I don't think I'm that off base, sorry what would make YOU commit suicide. :|

origami_mustache

01-22-2008, 11:38 PM

I actually never saw Brokeback Mountain...really loved him in Monster's Ball and I'm Not There though.

number8

01-22-2008, 11:49 PM

i seem to recall reading he struggled with fame. maybe he didn't see that as a good thing.

He was before Brokeback. Ledger was an example of how Hollywood can manufacture a star. He barely knew anything about the profession when the studios and publicists decide that he could be a star and shoehorned him into lead roles and the covers of teen mags.

But he said that doing Brokeback was the first time he felt like he actually accomplished something in life, and he said he had used it since to get projects that he only truly wanted, like I'm Not There.

Wryan

01-23-2008, 12:25 AM

But he said that doing Brokeback was the first time he felt like he actually accomplished something in life,

Monster's Ball perf was good too, but BM will be what people remember him for, serious-acting-wise. He's very wrenching in it.

KK2.0

01-23-2008, 01:15 AM

Just a theory. I don't think I'm that off base, sorry what would make YOU commit suicide. :|

Man, i have no idea. but it has to be something DAMN serious, something that would make me abandon all desire to continue, like falling on a pit, breaking my legs and staying there for days in pain, lying on my own shit with no hopes of being found. Boy, that was horrible! :P

he was an actor, playing a homossexual character should be faced like just another job, and i'm sure they actually look for challenges like that, that's what separate great actors from the mediocre ones. C'mon, being a homo is not the end of the world, specially in hollywood. Maybe if he was, it would be even easier for him to reach stardom. Look at Tom Cruise! Muahahaha.

Rowland

01-23-2008, 01:17 AM

:confused:

KK2.0

01-23-2008, 01:19 AM

Sorry, this should be a grief thread, i blame the Duke. :)

Scar

01-23-2008, 01:36 AM

Just a theory. I don't think I'm that off base, sorry what would make YOU commit suicide. :|

Ledger told The New York Times in a November interview that he "stressed out a little too much" during the Dylan film, and had trouble sleeping while portraying the Joker, whom he called a "psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy."
"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told the newspaper. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour, the paper said.

He was on the wrong stuff.

Justin

01-23-2008, 02:18 AM

I heard about this right when I came into work, absolutely terrible.

origami_mustache

01-23-2008, 03:17 AM

I was walking home a few hours ago and passed by a man who stopped to watch the Breaking News announcement on the television screen inside a fast food place. I noticed quite a few people inside were glued to the television with looks of disbelief as well. The man became visibly distraught and said to me "he had so much left to do in his career."

:sad:

KK2.0

01-23-2008, 03:18 AM

Ledger told The New York Times in a November interview that he "stressed out a little too much" during the Dylan film, and had trouble sleeping while portraying the Joker, whom he called a "psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy."
"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told the newspaper. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour, the paper said.

He was on the wrong stuff.

i'm afraid it was accidental, what makes me even more sad and angry.

Kurosawa Fan

01-23-2008, 03:38 AM

For a minute there I thought I was on IMDB.

Sven

01-23-2008, 04:15 AM

I heard about this at work (Barnes and Noble) as it was being broken and the aura in the place was very distressed (I work in a B&N in the neighborhood that he used to live in and would bring his daughter to sometimes).

As a friend of mine said, he's one of the few of this generation that seemed like he'd be around for a while. Damn. This is weird and terrible and completely unexpected.

Silencio

01-23-2008, 04:46 AM

Sigh...

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/19627377.html

origami_mustache

01-23-2008, 04:48 AM

Sigh...

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/19627377.html

Wow, what a sick world we live in.

Spinal

01-23-2008, 04:52 AM

So predictable.

Mysterious Dude

01-23-2008, 04:54 AM

The Phelps clan does that whenever anybody dies; why should Ledger be any different?

Terrible news, by the way. Usually celebrity deaths don't phase me much, but this is very sad.

MadMan

01-23-2008, 04:58 AM

Sigh...

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/19627377.htmlI honestly want to shoot everyone last one of those nutjobs. Seriously.

EvilShoe

01-23-2008, 07:46 AM

Just a theory. I don't think I'm that off base, sorry what would make YOU commit suicide. :|
For fuck's sake Duke, think before you post.

This has shocked me, as it come out of nowhere. He was an actor I had recently warmed up to since Brokeback Mountain, and it saddens me that he's gone.

number8

01-23-2008, 08:12 AM

You know... if someone decides to commit suicide because of Brokeback jokes--possibly the lamest and most immature joke to ever enter our lexicon (fuck you, Robin Williams)--then that guy probably doesn't deserve to suck oxygen off of my planet.

But this discussion is so fucking moot, since he didn't kill himself.

Dukefrukem

01-23-2008, 12:05 PM

Dukefrukem

01-23-2008, 12:06 PM

For fuck's sake Duke, think before you post.

This has shocked me, as it come out of nowhere. He was an actor I had recently warmed up to since Brokeback Mountain, and it saddens me that he's gone.

:confused:

You know... if someone decides to commit suicide because of Brokeback jokes--possibly the lamest and most immature joke to ever enter our lexicon (fuck you, Robin Williams)--then that guy probably doesn't deserve to suck oxygen off of my planet.

But this discussion is so fucking moot, since he didn't kill himself.

is that the latest? accidental?

Scar

01-23-2008, 12:25 PM

But this discussion is so fucking moot, since he didn't kill himself.

I hate to say it, but this certainly can't be confirmed yet.

Ezee E

01-23-2008, 01:53 PM

This has turned into a strange thread.

Ezee E

01-23-2008, 02:06 PM

Haven't heard about this part yet.

As we first reported, he had pneumonia at the time of his death.

Morris Schæffer

01-23-2008, 03:34 PM

I received my Dark Knight poster yesterday. I was all giddy and immediately hung it on my bedroom wall. Naturally, it's the one with Joker standing behind a glass door and, in blood, writing "Why so serious?" on said door. Then I heard the news this morning on my way to work. :cry:

Saya

01-23-2008, 04:04 PM

I heard it this morning on my way to work as well. It's been on my mind all day.

R.I.P.

Watashi

01-23-2008, 04:15 PM

I woke up today shaking and thought yesterday was all a bad dream. Not since Altman, has a celebrity death affected me this much.

Not to exploit the tragedy, but if you have a chance, try to grab as many Dark Knight Joker posters as possible because they will be rare seeing they will probably go OOP.

ledfloyd

01-23-2008, 04:38 PM

i dunno if the two are connected but i feel incredibly depressed today. it's weird, cause while i dug heath, i wasn't a huge fan or anything.

Benny Profane

01-23-2008, 05:12 PM

I woke up today shaking and thought yesterday was all a bad dream. Not since Altman, has a celebrity death affected me this much.

Really? I mean, it's a shame he's dead, but I haven't thought about it at all.

shaun

01-23-2008, 05:18 PM

I'm disappointed to learn that the Olsen Twins weren't involved.

"Pills. Naked. Olsen Twins." is pretty much my ideal obituary.

number8

01-23-2008, 05:21 PM

I hate to say it, but this certainly can't be confirmed yet.

The police said that there are no evidence to suggest that it was a suicide. Either it was an accident because of his pneumonia or he overdosed.

It's not confirmed, but I seriously doubt he killed himself. Who the hell makes an appointment with a masseuse before they die?

Scar

01-23-2008, 05:24 PM

The police said that there are no evidence to suggest that it was a suicide. Either it was an accident because of his pneumonia or he overdosed.

It's not confirmed, but I seriously doubt he killed himself. Who the hell makes an appointment with a masseuse before they die?

There was no evidence of foul play, and there was no evidence of a suicide note.

I doubt he killed himself, too, but I'm an eternal pessimist. I believe the corroner was leaning towards overdose, but we won't know for 10 days.

Also, if he was popping ambiene and only getting an hour of sleep, he should've been put on different sleep aides. Its a pity.

Benny Profane

01-23-2008, 07:15 PM

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/heath.jpg

I wonder...Are they all flying to Australia?

Dukefrukem

01-23-2008, 07:40 PM

that is so fucked.

megladon8

01-23-2008, 08:04 PM

Is it bad that I'm still waiting for news that it was all a big mix-up, or some sort of horribly tasteless publicity stunt, and he's still alive and well?

If anything, just for the sake of his daughter. I really feel bad for that little girl.

I realize that it's not like other small children don't lose their parents all the time, but it just seems this girl's life was getting mixed up enough as it is, and to have something like this happen on top of it - God, this is just so sad.

shaun

01-23-2008, 08:10 PM

In the hilariously bad media speculation department...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ot/heath_ledger_4

A rolled-up $20 bill was found near Heath Ledger's body, though no illegal drugs were found in his apartment... "though no visible drug residue was found on it"Why not just say that a knife was found in the apartment even though no blood or cut marks were visible?

I realize that it's not like other small children don't lose their parents all the time, but it just seems this girl's life was getting mixed up enough as it is, and to have something like this happen on top of itI guess I feel worse for the kids who won't get to grow up in a life of privilege that having millionaire actor parents affords you.

Ezee E

01-23-2008, 08:12 PM

In the hilariously bad media speculation department...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ot/heath_ledger_4

Why not just say that a knife was found in the apartment even though no blood or cut marks were visible?

I guess I feel worse for the kids who won't get to grow up in a life of privilege that having millionaire actor parents affords you.
On a scene, you have to basically take everything into account as a possibility. I've been on some.

megladon8

01-23-2008, 08:13 PM

I guess I feel worse for the kids who won't get to grow up in a life of privilege that having millionaire actor parents affords you.

Yes, because we all know being rich makes the pain of losing a parent go away.

number8

01-23-2008, 08:15 PM

Yes, because we all know being rich makes the pain of losing a parent go away.

Like Batman... This is getting too roundabout and creepy.

shaun

01-23-2008, 08:18 PM

Yes, because we all know being rich makes the pain of losing a parent go away.Not to minimize her loss, but she's 2. I don't remember shit from when I was 2. She probably want to play with her doll or drink apple juice right about now.

Velocipedist

01-23-2008, 08:49 PM

Not to minimize her loss, but she's 2. I don't remember shit from when I was 2. She probably want to play with her doll or drink apple juice right about now.

Now... but... you know...

Wryan

01-23-2008, 08:53 PM

Not to minimize her loss, but she's 2. I don't remember shit from when I was 2. She probably want to play with her doll or drink apple juice right about now.

Sure, but she's been photographed with Heath playing and walking and stuff. She must "know" who he is and will probably wonder, at some level, why he's not there anymore.

http://i25.tinypic.com/2jewguc.jpg

:cry:

megladon8

01-23-2008, 08:56 PM

Not to minimize her loss, but she's 2. I don't remember shit from when I was 2. She probably want to play with her doll or drink apple juice right about now.

People dismiss the intelligence and awareness of children way too often.

number8

01-23-2008, 10:16 PM

Not to minimize her loss, but she's 2. I don't remember shit from when I was 2.

Oh, was there also a significant loss in your life when you were 2?

Scar

01-23-2008, 10:19 PM

Not to minimize her loss, but she's 2. I don't remember shit from when I was 2. She probably want to play with her doll or drink apple juice right about now.

Thats just cold.

[ETM]

01-23-2008, 10:21 PM

I remember things vividly from when I was three and even younger, and I had no significant loss in my life in that period.

Qrazy

01-23-2008, 10:41 PM

I have a feeling that Warner Bros. will not release The Dark Knight now out of respect. But that's the pessimist in me talking.

That's the idiot in you talking.

:P

megladon8

01-23-2008, 10:43 PM

That's the idiot in you talking.

:P

:|

Derek

01-23-2008, 10:47 PM

:|

Perhaps a better way of saying it would be that there's no chance in hell the studio won't go after the hundred's of millions of dollars that Dark Knight will inevitably make them. I don't even think not releasing would be a sign of respect either, so I don't see why they'd pull the plug on it at this point. The Crow came out after Brandon Lee died and, if I remember correctly, he died by accident on set!

megladon8

01-23-2008, 11:01 PM

Anyone else notice that fans were complaining how the make-up for The Joker looked too much like The Crow...and Ledger died at the exact same age as Brandon Lee (28), also under strange, accidental circumstances?

Duncan

01-23-2008, 11:35 PM

megladon8

01-23-2008, 11:36 PM

stop it

Uh...what?

Duncan

01-23-2008, 11:48 PM

Uh...what?

Why are you trying to imply a meaningful connection between two events that are only related in the most superficial ways? Who the hell cares that a few fan boys complained about The Joker's makeup being similar to The Crow's? Why is it at all significant that two 28 year olds died? Thousands of 28 year olds die every day. Does it matter that they were both men? That they were both white?

I guess I just dislike it when people suggest far out, obviously meaningless connections to other events in some futile effort to imbue a person's life with a supernatural purpose. I mean, what are you saying here? That 28 year old actors who where weird makeup are cursed to die? It's just kind of a ridiculous supposition. It's not just you, and I'm sorry for singling you out. There have been a few really strange comments in this thread is all.

megladon8

01-23-2008, 11:49 PM

I guess I just dislike it when people suggest far out, obviously meaningless connections to other events in some futile effort to imbue a person's life with a supernatural purpose. I mean, what are you saying here? That 28 year old actors who where weird makeup are cursed to die? It's just kind of a ridiculous supposition. It's not just you, and I'm sorry for singling you out. There have been a few really strange comments in this thread is all.

I wasn't "saying anything" at all. I don't believe there is some supernatural connection or shit...I just thought it was a weird coincidence. That's it. That's all.

Chill the fuck out.

Duncan

01-23-2008, 11:57 PM

I'm not taking it any further.

number8

01-24-2008, 12:20 AM

Ledger was apparently in pre-production for his directorial debut when he died, for a chess movie starring Ellen Page.

I'm closer to 100% that he didn't kill himself.

Wryan

01-24-2008, 12:23 AM

lovejuice

01-24-2008, 12:41 AM

Rowland

01-24-2008, 12:48 AM

Henry Gale

01-24-2008, 02:04 AM

Ok enough of all this. Here's something to make you laugh. A beautiful and heartfelt tribute from Ellen.

http://ellen.warnerbros.com/2008/01/heath_ledger.php

Celebrate the life rather than mourn the death. :)

Thanks, that's exactly what I hoped she would do, a short but heartfelt and funny tribute just of him and her having a good time. I happened to come across that whole interview on YouTube only a month or so back so the whole appearance was still very fresh in my mind.

But yesterday I was so shocked when I heard about all of it. I was just thinking about watching I'm Not There too, so he was sort of floating around in my thoughts already so it was even more of a completely surreal thing.

Not too long after I was sort of brought me back to months ago when those first pictures of him as The Joker were posted and so many people said it reminded of them of The Crow, and I thought how unfortunate what happened with that was and how it would be unthinkable (though maybe not necessarily the same way as that) if someone so young and well-known were suddenly gone these days. I never imagined someone like, or particularly him, could just be in one place in his life and career one moment and then all of a sudden dead and you start to immediately look at it all in a different, more tragic perspective.

I always really liked him in anything I happened to see him in (in real life appearances or in movies) and thought that as an actor he was really becoming something to look forward to time and time again. I still don't know if I really believe it all yet.

Benny Profane

01-24-2008, 01:56 PM

In the hilariously bad media speculation department...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ot/heath_ledger_4

Quote:
A rolled-up $20 bill was found near Heath Ledger's body, though no illegal drugs were found in his apartment... "though no visible drug residue was found on it"

Why not just say that a knife was found in the apartment even though no blood or cut marks were visible?

I think I'm going to get a medic alert bracelet that says:

"If found naked and unconscious, please call 911. Do not call Mary-Kate Olsen. Do not call Ashley Olsen. Do not call Gregg Olsen. Do not call Greg Brady. Do not call Tom Brady. For the love of God, just call 911. Also, please unroll any paper money you may find laying around."

megladon8

01-24-2008, 05:26 PM

origami_mustache

01-24-2008, 05:31 PM

Yep, that was great.

Simple and sweet.

I <3 Ellen.

D_Davis

01-24-2008, 06:25 PM

If you type, "Heath Ledger is dead" into Google Translate (English to Spanish), you get something strange as the result.

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|es

Wryan

01-24-2008, 06:37 PM

If you type, "Heath Ledger is dead" into Google Translate (English to Spanish), you get something strange as the result.

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|es

Que raro!

number8

01-24-2008, 08:51 PM

Jack Nicholson is fucking creepy.

Raiders

01-25-2008, 01:43 PM

If you type, "Heath Ledger is dead" into Google Translate (English to Spanish), you get something strange as the result.

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|es

Heath Ledger esta muerto? How is that strange?

origami_mustache

01-25-2008, 01:44 PM

Heath Ledger esta muerto? How is that strange?

It was converting Heath Ledger to Tom Cruise before.

Wryan

01-25-2008, 06:13 PM

It was converting Heath Ledger to Tom Cruise before.

Yeah. Lol. Dunno what was up with that. Wishful thinking on someone's part? Xenu sending them a message?

origami_mustache

01-25-2008, 06:16 PM

Yeah. Lol. Dunno what was up with that. Wishful thinking on someone's part? Xenu sending them a message?

Oh no, I just had a disturbing thought. What if scientologists are right?

Wryan

01-25-2008, 06:27 PM

Oh no, I just had a disturbing thought. What if scientologists are right?

What if none of us exist except in the mind's of scientologists? Ewwww...

origami_mustache

01-25-2008, 06:28 PM

What if none of us exist except in the mind's of scientologists? Ewwww...

gonna vom...

D_Davis

01-25-2008, 07:19 PM

Heath Ledger esta muerto? How is that strange?

They must have fixed it.

It was saying, "Tom Cruise esta muerto."

MadMan

01-25-2008, 07:50 PM

What if none of us exist except in the mind's of scientologists? Ewwww...:eek: That's very scary. I don't want to be in Tom Cruise's head!!!

Sycophant

01-25-2008, 07:55 PM

I don't want to be in Tom Cruise's head!!!
I do.

I frequently do.

MadMan

01-25-2008, 08:11 PM

I do.

I frequently do.But why? The man is batshit crazy.

Benny Profane

01-25-2008, 08:13 PM

I'd like to know what it's like to nail Katie Holmes.

Kurosawa Fan

01-25-2008, 08:14 PM

I'd like to know what it's like to nail Katie Holmes.

Not me. I'm a married man, and thus don't think about things like that.

You bring up an excellent point.

Wryan

01-25-2008, 09:12 PM

I dunno. Katie's looking more and more Uhhhh? lately. And Suri is clearly an alien. Cute as all hell. But an alien.

number8

01-25-2008, 10:06 PM

I wonder if Tom regularly asks Katie to say "It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" to him just to convince himself he's not gay?

MadMan

01-25-2008, 10:21 PM

I dunno. Katie's looking more and more Uhhhh? lately. And Suri is clearly an alien. Cute as all hell. But an alien.I second the thoughts on Holmes. And heh in regards to little Suri. Maybe she is an alien! :eek: The colonization of Earth is begining! Only Mulder and Scully can save us now!

Wryan

01-26-2008, 02:28 AM

I wonder if Tom regularly asks Katie to say "It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" to him just to convince himself he's not gay?

What does THE CHURCH say about homosexuality, btw? Anyone know?

megladon8

01-26-2008, 10:23 PM

I never understood the accusations that Tom Cruise is gay. He's never done anything to my knowledge which was particularly flamboyant or homoerotic or anything.

I think it's just like every other actor who's accused of being gay...because pretty much every actor in existence has had that accusation thrown at them at some point.

Skitch

01-26-2008, 10:25 PM

I'd like to know what it's like to nail Katie Holmes.

...and Nicole Kidman.

number8

01-26-2008, 11:12 PM

I never understood the accusations that Tom Cruise is gay. He's never done anything to my knowledge which was particularly flamboyant or homoerotic or anything.

Top Gun
Cocktail
Risky Business

number8

01-26-2008, 11:14 PM

Wryan

01-26-2008, 11:26 PM

Anyway, WTF news of the day:

Early toxicology report says that the drugs Ledger took weren't enough to kill him.

The speculation now is that he simply died of pneumonia or (here's the WTF) natural causes.

Didn't that 24-year-old soccer player die of a heart attack? Probably peak physical condition, way better than me, and had a heart attack on the field or something.

lovejuice

01-26-2008, 11:43 PM

Top Gun
Cocktail
Risky Business

i'm not sure i understand. isn't top gun -- which i haven't watched -- suppoed to be an ultimate guy movie? and in risky business he has a hot sex with

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/071003/70swomen/demornay_l.jpg

Wryan

01-26-2008, 11:46 PM

i'm not sure i understand. isn't top gun -- which i haven't watched -- suppoed to be an ultimate guy movie? and in risky business he has a hot sex with

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/071003/70swomen/demornay_l.jpg

Top Gun has an infamous beach volleyball scene that could have been subtitled "Masculine Horseplay turns Erotic for Wide-Eyed Gay Men Everywhere." Also, his marriage to Nicole Kidman was basically believed, for years, to be one of convenience as the two reportedly always looked like frozen mannequins when seen together.

/shrug

Scar

01-27-2008, 12:09 AM

Didn't that 24-year-old soccer player die of a heart attack? Probably peak physical condition, way better than me, and had a heart attack on the field or something.

Cardiologists say, the best way to lead a long life is to pick your parents.

Scar

01-27-2008, 12:10 AM

Top Gun has an infamous beach volleyball scene that could have been subtitled "Masculine Horseplay turns Erotic for Wide-Eyed Gay Men Everywhere." Also, his marriage to Nicole Kidman was basically believed, for years, to be one of convenience as the two reportedly always looked like frozen mannequins when seen together.

/shrug

Who can forget 'ol Tommy flexing while he checks his watch?

Rowland

01-27-2008, 12:13 AM

Hell, Top Gun even looks gay, with that perfume-commercial-esque visual sheen.

koji

01-27-2008, 12:25 AM

Anyway, WTF news of the day:

Early toxicology report says that the drugs Ledger took weren't enough to kill him.

The speculation now is that he simply died of pneumonia or (here's the WTF) natural causes.I was at party a while ago and I was in a room with 4-5 doctors (all gals :)). They were discussing a death of a person in his 20s (I don't remember who it was) and whether it could be "natural causes." The conversation was unfocused, to say the least, and I said that they should define "natural causes" because discussion could not proceed intelligently until that was defined. None of them seemed to be able to do that. And then I was distracted by one of them....

In sum, the term "natural causes" seems to be very vague.

Morris Schæffer

01-27-2008, 07:35 PM

Nolan speaks about the tragedy:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/105580

EDIT: Sigh. That's a lovely written little piece.

megladon8

01-27-2008, 10:53 PM

Nolan speaks about the tragedy:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/105580

EDIT: Sigh. That's a lovely written little piece.

Yes, that was really great.

Thanks for posting it, Morris.

number8

01-28-2008, 01:55 AM

Anyone saw the SAG awards?

Daniel-Day Lewis' acceptance speech was all about Ledger. That was unexpected.

transmogrifier

01-28-2008, 02:07 AM

Read that Terry Gilliam's film may perhaps still go ahead. In the movie, Ledger's character is supposed to fall through into 3 or 4 fantasy worlds. Word is that, each time this happens, a new actor will take over, with Johnny Depp rumored to be one of them.

Great idea, if you ask me.

Spinal

01-28-2008, 03:00 AM

DANIEL DAY-LEWIS: Thank you. I’m very, very proud of this. Thank you so much for giving it to me. And I’m very proud to be included in that group of wonderful actors this year.

You know, for as long as I can remember, the thing that gave me a sense of wonderment, of renewal, the thing that teased me with the question, how is such a thing possible, and then dare you to go back into the arena of one more time, with longing and self-doubt, jostling in the balance. It’s always been the work of other actors, and there are many actors in this room tonight, including my fellow nominees who have given that sense of regeneration and…

Heath Ledger gave it to me. [applause] In “Monster’s Ball,” that character that he created, it seemed to be almost like an unformed being, retreating from themselves, retreating from his father, from his life, even retreating from us, and yet we wanted to follow him, and yet we’re scared to follow him almost. It was unique. And then, of course, in “Brokeback Mountain,” he was unique, he was perfect. [applause] And that scene in the trailer at the end of the film is as moving as anything that I think I’ve ever seen. And I’d like to dedicate this to Heath Ledger. So, thank you very much. Thank you so much. [applause]

Wryan

01-28-2008, 03:02 AM

Very sweet of him.

MacGuffin

01-28-2008, 03:18 AM

When he says, 'And I'd like to dedicate this to Heath Ledger.', is he referring to the award or the performance? Either way, that's cool of him.

Ezee E

01-28-2008, 05:45 AM

When he says, 'And I'd like to dedicate this to Heath Ledger.', is he referring to the award or the performance? Either way, that's cool of him.
It's the award.

MadMan

01-28-2008, 05:58 AM

Nolan speaks about the tragedy:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/105580

EDIT: Sigh. That's a lovely written little piece.Bloody brilliant and elegant.

Oh and DDL's speech dedicating his award to Ledger is really awesome. See idiots like Parris Hilton? That's an example of true class act.

Winston*

01-28-2008, 06:05 AM

Bloody brilliant and elegant.

Oh and DDL's speech dedicating his award to Ledger is really awesome. See idiots like Parris Hilton? That's an example of true class act.

What's Paris Hilton got to do with anything?

MadMan

01-28-2008, 06:23 AM

What's Paris Hilton got to do with anything?I was using her as an example of what's really wrong with Hollywood. The type of thing DDL actually did tonight should be more common place in that town and what have you. Plus there's nothing wrong with bashing Parris Hilton :P

Sycophant

01-28-2008, 06:33 AM

Plus there's nothing wrong with bashing Parris Hilton :P
Yes, there is, actually. But I'm not going there*.

Class acts on the parts of both Day-Lewis and Nolan.

*Except for here, where I kind of did.

Kurosawa Fan

01-28-2008, 01:45 PM

That was really wonderful. I was watching almost on accident last night, and was really surprised by Lewis' speech. He's a truly classy individual.

megladon8

01-28-2008, 01:57 PM

That was really wonderful. I was watching almost on accident last night, and was really surprised by Lewis' speech. He's a truly classy individual.

Yes, I was watching interviews with him on YouTube, and he's such a soft-spoken guy. Very much a gentleman.

It's amazing how he can play horrible people so well.

Benny Profane

01-28-2008, 01:57 PM

Anyone saw the SAG awards?

Daniel-Day Lewis' acceptance speech was all about Ledger. That was unexpected.

I was actually expecting more of the awards recipients to say something about him, so it was nice that something finally got said.

On the flip side, Mickey Rooney should never be allowed to speak in public again.

Kurosawa Fan

01-28-2008, 02:02 PM

On the flip side, Mickey Rooney should never be allowed to speak in public again.

No fucking kidding. I had paused it earlier, and once he came on and started his masturbatory rant, I fast forwarded as much of him as I could. Nothing like taking the limelight away from the nominees and putting it on yourself.

Ezee E

01-28-2008, 02:19 PM

No fucking kidding. I had paused it earlier, and once he came on and started his masturbatory rant, I fast forwarded as much of him as I could. Nothing like taking the limelight away from the nominees and putting it on yourself.
Luckily, the winner was not there.

megladon8

01-28-2008, 02:21 PM

Is this Mickey Rourke stuff online anywhere?

It's sad how far that guy's fallen - he really is Marv.

Spinal

01-28-2008, 04:30 PM

I wasn't surprised by the Day-Lewis thing because I had seen this story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22842809/) a couple days ago.

Rowland

01-28-2008, 04:32 PM

Is this Mickey Rourke stuff online anywhere?

It's sad how far that guy's fallen - he really is Marv.Rooney, man.

EvilShoe

01-28-2008, 04:33 PM

Rooney, man.
Same thing.

Spinal

01-28-2008, 04:35 PM

Mickey Rooney was hot in 9 1/2 Weeks.

Melville

01-28-2008, 04:48 PM

number8

01-28-2008, 07:34 PM

Mickey Rooney was hot in 9 1/2 Weeks.

You SON OF A BITCH.

Boner M

01-28-2008, 08:43 PM

Most tasteless and guiltily amusing headline pun that I've read on this matter, so far:

"HEATH DEAD"

Wryan

01-28-2008, 08:57 PM

Most tasteless and guiltily amusing headline pun that I've read on this matter, so far:

"HEATH DEAD"

I must be feeling dim atm, is that a pun on "he's dead" or something else?

number8

01-28-2008, 08:59 PM

DDL vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY0fPhgLAcM

Boner M

01-28-2008, 09:00 PM

I must be feeling dim atm, is that a pun on "he's dead" or something else?
I'm assuming it was the former, yes.

Wryan

01-28-2008, 09:01 PM

I'm assuming it was the former, yes.

Then that's bizarre and, yeah, queerly tasteless on at least 2 levels. :)

number8

01-28-2008, 09:05 PM

Then that's bizarre and, yeah, queerly tasteless on at least 2 levels. :)

Queer. I see what you did there.

Wryan

01-28-2008, 09:17 PM

Queer. I see what you did there.

I'm an archaic wordsmith. Now go get me some fags, I'm getting cold here.

Sycophant

01-28-2008, 09:21 PM

Then that's bizarre and, yeah, queerly tasteless on at least 2 levels. :)
It is, however, morbidly fun to say. Though at first I thought it was a spoonerism of "Heat Death." Which was even weirder.

megladon8

01-29-2008, 12:18 AM

Did Ledger have a lithp or something?

Benny Profane

02-06-2008, 03:56 PM

In case anyone was wondering:

(CNN) -- Heath Ledger died from an accidental overdose of prescription medications including painkillers, anti-anxiety drugs and sleeping pills, the New York City medical examiner's office said Tuesday.

Actor Heath Ledger, 28, died January 22 at an apartment in Lower Manhattan.

more photos » "Mr. Heath Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam, and doxylamine," the office said in a short statement.

"We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications."

Hydrocodone and oxycodone are painkillers. Diazepam is an anti-anxiety drug commonly sold under the brand name Valium; alprazolam is also an anti-anxiety drug, sold under such names as Xanax. Temazepam, sold under such names as Restoril and Euhypnos, is a sleeping agent, as is doxylamine.

Robby P

02-06-2008, 04:15 PM

Were there any prescription drugs that the guy wasn't taking? Good lord. That's a walking pharmacy.

Ezee E

02-06-2008, 04:22 PM

What kind of pain was this man in? Sheesh.

megladon8

02-06-2008, 04:40 PM

It's so sad that he had these issues yet it seems no one did anything about it.

He hadn't looked well in months...it's depressing to think no one close to him took it upon themselves to try and help him.

number8

02-06-2008, 04:43 PM

Jack Nicholson did, apparently.

Benny Profane

02-06-2008, 04:45 PM

He hadn't looked well in months...it's depressing to think no one close to him took it upon themselves to try and help him.

How do you know?

Sycophant

02-06-2008, 04:46 PM

megladon8

02-06-2008, 04:47 PM

There's only so much you can do for a person.

It's terribly sad, of course, though.

It's true, and it would be wrong to say it was entirely in others' hands to save him.

It just sounds like something that could have been avoided, had more taken notice of his struggle.

Morris Schæffer

02-06-2008, 05:23 PM

Jack Nicholson did, apparently.

He warned him right?

number8

02-06-2008, 05:32 PM

Yeh. Nicholson almost died from taking Ambien, and told Ledger to stay away from that stuff. But he did not. Nicholson was caught on camera when he first knew about the death, and didn't even flinch.

megladon8

02-06-2008, 05:37 PM

I wouldn't really say that qualifies as Nicholson actively trying to help Ledger.

He gave him some advice, which is great, but I am saying someone needed to actually get help for Ledger, since he was obviously in a very bad place and couldn't handle it himself.

number8

02-06-2008, 05:41 PM

That's ridiculous, though. Who the hell would know? Everybody said that he always seemed cheerful, nice, and eager to work. Did you read Nolan's obit? Ledger was full of life and was excited about becoming a director. People on the Gilliam set said the same. The only complains they ever heard Ledger say is that he had trouble sleeping. What's the obvious advice people give to that one? Sleeping pills.

megladon8

02-06-2008, 05:45 PM

I find it hard to swallow that Ledger had this many issues and absolutely no one knew.

DavidSeven

02-06-2008, 05:47 PM

Nicholson refuted the claims that he warned Ledger specifically about the sleeping pills. He says he never knew him personally.

From IMDB:

Hollywood veteran Jack Nicholson insists stories claiming he warned Heath Ledger about the dangers of sleeping pills are not true - stating he never even met the tragic star. The Departed legend was asked how he felt about the Brokeback Mountain actor's death last month by photographers in London and he was quoted as saying, "I told him so." However, the 70-year-old star, whose role as the Joker in Batman was reprised by Ledger in The Dark Knight just before his death, states he was misquoted and was simply warning everyone against using that brand of pills. He says, "What I actually said was, 'I warned them.' I had a bad experience with those sleeping pills (that Ledger apparently took). I took one of these pills and had just gone to sleep when I had a phone call to go to an emergency at a friend's house. I jumped up, went outside and some time later woke up on the driveway. It sounds amusing but I live in the mountains and it could of been worse. I didn't know Heath Ledger, but I know those pills." Ledger was found dead in his New York apartment last month at the age of 28. An autopsy failed to reveal the cause of death, and police are still awaiting the results of a toxicology test to asses if sleeping pills found in his apartment played a part in his death.