The Comic Book Discussion Thread

[megladon8]

meg, next time you're in the city you should check out forbidden planet

it's pretty awesome

also bob gale needs to get off amazing asap


What is "Forbidden Planet"?

[megladon8]

Brian K Vaughn and Kurt Busiek are the two writers right now who consistently impress me every time I read their work.

Anyone here who hasn't read "Astro City" should do so immediately.

[Acapelli]

What is "Forbidden Planet"?
comic book shop

http://www.fpnyc.com/

[Acapelli]

kurt busiek's run on superman bored me to tears

which sucks because i love astro city

[megladon8]

comic book shop

http://www.fpnyc.com/


Wicked!

I'll go next week...or maybe on the weekend!

[Acapelli]

Wicked!

I'll go next week...or maybe on the weekend!
and it's open till 1 am from wednesday to saturday

[number8]

kurt busiek's run on superman bored me to tears

Trinity's awful too.

[megladon8]

Trinity's awful too.


Damn, that's kinda of depressing.

Well, Busiek's a great guy at any rate. He's helped me a lot with my writing, given me some great tips.


How about Matt Wagner - any other fans of his on here?

[Acapelli]

Damn, that's kinda of depressing.

Well, Busiek's a great guy at any rate. He's helped me a lot with my writing, given me some great tips.


How about Matt Wagner - any other fans of his on here?
well i'm still enjoying his astro city stuff, although trinity will probably put any of that on hold

i enjoyed the new grendel mini for what it's worth

[EyesWideOpen]

I've been on a spending binge of TPB's and hardcovers in the last month.

So far I've gotten:

Hellboy Library Edition Hardcover Volume 1
Batman/Grendel TPB
The Boys Vol. 2 TPB
New X-Men by Grant Morrison Ultimate Collection Volume 1
Sam Noir: Samurai Detective Vol. 1 TPB
Wisdom: Rudiments of Wisdom TPB
Wolverine Vol. 1 & 2 TPB (the Greg Rucka run)
Wolverine: Enemy of the State Ultimate Collection TPB
The Starman Omnibus Volume 1 Hardcover

[megladon8]

Acapelli - we went to "Forbidden Planet" today. Fantastic selection of t-shirts and toys, but I actually wasn't too impressed with their comics.

The TPB section was kind of a mess - books were strewn everywhere, many of them heavily damaged, and they didn't seem to be organized in any particular fashion.

And I don't like that their single issues aren't bagged and boarded - again, like 90% of the single issues were badly damaged, especially by the dozens of kids running around in the store.

But still, it was cool to go somewhere new. And I got to look at lots of books with big-name signatures, which was pretty awesome.

Have you been to the MidTown Comics at Times Square? You should definitely check that one out - it's the best comic store I've ever been to. Much friendlier atmosphere, as well.

While at "FP", I bought both volumes of Alan Moore's "Top 10".

[Acapelli]

eh i don't really like midtown that much, mostly since i don't feel like going up to midtown

i don't even bag and board my comics anymore so any damage doesn't really bother me

i only shop at comic book shops for new releases anyway. tpbs are usually purchased at border's or online

[EyesWideOpen]

yeah comic book stores are the worst place to pick up TPB's especially when you get them 30%-50% off at Borders or amazon.

[megladon8]

yeah comic book stores are the worst place to pick up TPB's especially when you get them 30%-50% off at Borders or amazon.


At MidTown you get $20 off for every $100 you spend.

And Canadian Amazon sucks for TPB's.

So this is pretty much the best deal I can get.

[number8]

yeah comic book stores are the worst place to pick up TPB's especially when you get them 30%-50% off at Borders or amazon.

True, but lately I've been starting to develop LCS loyalty. I'm thinking it has something to do with the owner of Comic Relief dying. So many people started telling me their great memories of the man and their wonderful comic shopping experience.

I buy my comics at a toys shop downtown that gives me 22% discount. They only have one guy who really knows comics and he's not always there. Usually it's just sales person. I've been meaning to switch to this comic shop I really, really like and give them any money I can. The discount would only be 10% and it's out of the way to go there, but the owner is super cool, everybody who work there are fun to talk to, and they like to throw parties since they have a bar and lounge area for people to drink and read comics. Plus, they support local artists by having a local indie comics section. I have to choose between supporting an artform I admire and not blowing my money. Ugh.

[EyesWideOpen]

Yeah I understand the LCS loyalty thing but I spend $30-50 a week on single issues (and all my comic supplies) at my LCS so i don't feel bad buying my trades somewhere else.

[megladon8]

I can't afford to buy singles anymore, because there are just too many titles out there that I want.

[megladon8]

I've read the first three issues of "Top 10".

It's fantastic. Some of the best work I've read by Moore.

I just wish I could get my hands on "Supreme".

[Acapelli]

I can't afford to buy singles anymore, because there are just too many titles out there that I want.
tell me about it

my wallet is getting raped this week

[ledfloyd]

tell me about it

my wallet is getting raped this week
yeah. marvels premiere hardcovers make waiting for trade even harder, you have to spend more than the floppies or wait a year.

this week i'm getting
Ex Machina: Deluxe Hardcover
Walking Dead TPB Vol. 8
Captain America
Daredevil
Runaways

i think that's it.

[Acapelli]

well i'm just talking about monthlies, this is what i'm getting

BATMAN GOTHAM AFTER MIDNITE #2 (OF 12)
FINAL CRISIS #2 (OF 7)
GREEN LANTERN #32
SUPERMAN #677
AVENGERS INITIATIVE #14 SI
CAPTAIN AMERICA #39
DAREDEVIL #108
FANTASTIC FOUR #558
HULK #4
IMMORTAL IRON FIST #16
MARVEL 1985 #2 (OF 6)
MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS #10
MIGHTY AVENGERS #15 SI
NEW AVENGERS #42 SI
RUNAWAYS #30
SECRET INVASION RUNAWAYS YOUNG AVENGERS #1 (OF 3) SI
SHE-HULK 2 #30
THUNDERBOLTS #121
YOUNG AVENGERS PRESENTS #6 (OF 6)

[megladon8]

Acapelli, how are you enjoying the new "Hulk" series so far?

That is the one with Red Hulk, right?


Oh and is that whole "death of Bruce Wayne" still going down? Has it already happened? Gonna happen soon? I kind of lost track of what was going on with that...

[Acapelli]

hulk is pretty close to getting dropped, along with fantastic 4

and yeah, batman rip is still going on, it's about two issues in

[Acapelli]

i mean, i kind of like the direction of the hulk book, since loeb pretty much is just making an iron man book, and am also intrigued by the identity of the red hulk, but i mostly dislike loeb's writing on this

[megladon8]

i mean, i kind of like the direction of the hulk book, since loeb pretty much is just making an iron man book, and am also intrigued by the identity of the red hulk, but i mostly dislike loeb's writing on this


I used to be a total Loeb fanboy, but more and more I'm discovering he's pretty hit-and-miss.

"Batman: The Long Halloween", "Batman: Dark Victory", "Daredevil: Yellow", "Superman For All Seasons" and the first big chunk of "Superman/Batman" are great. That's about all I've encountered that's worth reading by Loeb.

[Acapelli]

i enjoyed spider-man: blue

[megladon8]

i enjoyed spider-man: blue


I never read that one.

Nor did I read "Hulk: Gray".

Apparently they're re-teaming for another colour-inspired book, but I forget what it was...

[EyesWideOpen]

Captain America: White is the new one their working on.

[EyesWideOpen]

Singles I'm picking up tomorrow:

Final Crisis #2
Green Lantern #32
Madame Xanadu #1
Superman #677 (James Robinson taking over)
Trinity #4
Captain America #39
Daredevil #108
Fantastic Four #558
Iron Fist #16
Marvel 1985 #2
Mighty Avengers #15
Mythos Captain America
New Avengers #42
Runaways #30
Secret Invasion: Runaways/Young Avengers #1
Young Avengers Presents #6

[Acapelli]

well going back and reading the first three issues of the new hulk series, it's a lot better than i remember

[bac0n]

Picked up the latest New Avengers, Mighty Avengers & Secret Invasion 3/6. I also picked up the last New Avengers TPB to bring me totally up to speed. Yay me.

[number8]

I'm curious about Cap: White, but Loeb's monthlies are always shit. Nowadays I actually refuse to buy anything he's writing unless it's with Tim Sale.

[number8]

Evidently I buy less than you guys. Here's mine for today:

CAPTAIN AMERICA #39
IMMORTAL IRON FIST #16
MARVEL 1985 #2 (OF 6)

[EyesWideOpen]

I also picked up the new issue of Project Superpowers forgot about that one.

[EyesWideOpen]

I managed to track down a copy of the last TPB of Alias and I can easily say Alias is one of my favorite comic book runs of all time.

[Acapelli]

I managed to track down a copy of the last TPB of Alias and I can easily say Alias is one of my favorite comic book runs of all time.
it's so great

[EyesWideOpen]

yep. Volume 4 of the TPB's had gotten hard to find and was hovering at the $40 + mark for a while but they came down in price recently and i snagged one off amazon marketplace for $15.

[megladon8]

"Alias" is a series I haven't even touched yet :sad:

[Acapelli]

mark millar hit it out of the park this week. glad fantastic 4 finally got good

[number8]

1985 #2 wasn't very good.

[EyesWideOpen]

1985 #2 wasn't very good.

I thought it was excellent and I liked how were starting to see the connections between his three Marvel titles.

[number8]

The 80s references are retarded. We get it already. It's the 80s. Even the first issue reined this in. Here you've got someone talking about Commodore 64 followed by a Dallas reference. Come on.

What I disliked was that it lost the mystery Goonies feeling. Now it's just Millar trying to put B-villains in realistic situations, which is what he'd always done. The whole "Electro is fucking scary and badass if he really uses his powers realistically" thing was already done in his MK Spiderman. Nothing really stand out here.

[EyesWideOpen]

Wow, just found out Michael Turner died last night.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16988

[Grouchy]

Wow, just found out Michael Turner died last night.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16988
Wow, very surprising news. I didn't know he had cancer.

I mostly know him for his Identity Crisis covers and Superman/Batman. Not the most original artist in the world, and his proportions were off sometimes, but he carried superhero stuff ok.

[megladon8]

Finished volume 1 of "Top 10".

It was fantastic. Loved it.

I'd like to read "Watchmen" again soon, and see if my opinion has changed/improved.

[number8]

Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. Has anyone read David Lapham's Batman: City of Crime?

Possibly the best Batman story I've ever read.

[Ezee E]

Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. Has anyone read David Lapham's Batman: City of Crime?

Possibly the best Batman story I've ever read.
why

[EyesWideOpen]

Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. Has anyone read David Lapham's Batman: City of Crime?

Possibly the best Batman story I've ever read.

I remember thinking it was awful when i read it in single issues.

[number8]

why

For you, let me put it this way... it felt like The Wire as I was reading it, but with a Lovecraftian twist. Lapham focuses on different aspects of Gotham... The rich, the poor, the homeless, the construction workers, the drug dealers, the prostitution ring, the cops, the supervillains and Batman, and how they all interconnect on any given day in Gotham. I've always been in the mind that Gotham is an interesting noir city by itself even without Batman, and this book shows that.

I love the opening chapter, where Batman's saving people from a fire, but instead of just showing his heroism, Lapham goes off tangent and shows all the other shit happening that night that escaped Batman's attention: a kid being raped, a husband beating his wife, etc...

It's pretty much everything I love about Lapham's Stray Bullets, but taking place in Gotham, and with a very good grasp on Batman characters.

[number8]

Alex Ross designed an Obama t-shirt:

http://www.graphittidesigns.com/shop/files/images_backup/obama.jpg

[EyesWideOpen]

Pretty sweet new Marvel Omnibus coming out in November. It's pretty much all of Ennis's Punisher stuff that's not Punisher MAX.


Punisher by Garth Ennis Omnibus Hardcover
Written by GARTH ENNIS Penciled by STEVE DILLON, DARICK ROBERTSON, TOM MANDRAKE, CAM
KENNEDY, JOHN MCCREA, DOUG BRAITHWAITE & JOE QUESADA Cover by TIM BRADSTREET
The bodies of drug dealers, murderers and the scum of the Earth litter the streets...the Punisher is back -
courtesy of writer Garth Ennis! The critically acclaimed creator that brought you Preacher restores one of
the most popular characters in the Marvel Universe to his former glory and ultra-violent roots. Stripped of
sidekicks, spiritual directives and other excess baggage, the vengeance-crazed vigilante hits the mean
streets of New York City with a renewed sense of purpose! Lawbreakers beware: Frank Castle is locked,
loaded and waiting for you to slip up! Collecting PUNISHER (2000) #1-12, PUNISHER KILLS THE
MARVEL UNIVERSE, MARVEL KNIGHTS DOUBLE SHOT #1, and PUNISHER (2001) #1-7 and #13-37.
Oversized Hardcover, 1192 PGS.. Rated Parental Advisory
Release Date 11/5/08

[number8]

Awww, too bad I have all of them in HC and single issues.

[EyesWideOpen]

The only thing i've got of that is Welcome Back Frank so i'll be picking it up. I've got all the MAX hardcovers though so this book works out perfectly.

[megladon8]

Sweet, I'll be getting that one for sure.

[Sycophant]

Invincible is really, really good stuff. Finished volume 4 today.

[megladon8]

Invincible is really, really good stuff. Finished volume 4 today.


That's another I've picked up and looked at many times in comic shops, but never read.

Have you read "Top 10"? That's what I'm working through now. I'm loving it. One of my favorites from Moore.

[Acapelli]

who would've thought that the best thing to come out of secret invasion is a captain britain comic book

i certainly didn't see that coming

[number8]

Anyone liking Joker's Asylum so far?

The Joker issue was just okay, but this week's Penguin issue was bloody fantastic.

[Acapelli]

Anyone liking Joker's Asylum so far?

The Joker issue was just okay, but this week's Penguin issue was bloody fantastic.
i wanted to get this, but i'm also trying to stop getting so many books

you get young liars this week?

[number8]

Hell yeah. It was insane.

[EyesWideOpen]

Anyone liking Joker's Asylum so far?

The Joker issue was just okay, but this week's Penguin issue was bloody fantastic.


Best Penguin story i've ever read.

[Acapelli]

Hell yeah. It was insane.
what a fucked up book

[number8]

what a fucked up book

It's not quite as fucked up as Stray Bullets, but it moves at a faster pace and definitely almost as insane.

[Thirdmango]

Finished Fables up to 10. I really like it now, though it started slow.

Now I'm going through Y: The Last Man. It's nifty.

[EyesWideOpen]

If your digging Fables you might want to pick up the Jack of Fables trades. Their great also and follow Jack's adventures.

[megladon8]

"Top 10" was so wonderful.

Why didn't they continue with it?

[EyesWideOpen]

Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. Has anyone read David Lapham's Batman: City of Crime?

Possibly the best Batman story I've ever read.

I just re-read it tonight and yeah i still don't care for it.

[Acapelli]

just ordered these from torpedo comics

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41d384Kr69L._SS500_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51E8rBIuCeL._SS500_.jpg

and a madman trade which i'm hoping is this
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61545aOfl8L._SS500_.jpg

$24.47 shipped

[megladon8]

Anyone fans of "Starman" or "Animal Man"?

I've passed these up so many times.

[EyesWideOpen]

Torpedo comics is great, i've spent well over $300 there in the few months since i found out about it.

[number8]

Anyone fans of "Starman" or "Animal Man"?

I've passed these up so many times.

Your loss.

[Grouchy]

Anyone fans of "Starman" or "Animal Man"?

I've passed these up so many times.
No clue about Starman, but Animal Man is Morrison at his very best, playing with comic-book conventions. The Willie Coyote story is awe inspiring. So is the Martian Manhunter cameo.

[Acapelli]

Torpedo comics is great, i've spent well over $300 there in the few months since i found out about it.
it's so hard to not buy more

[EyesWideOpen]

Anyone fans of "Starman" or "Animal Man"?

I've passed these up so many times.

I'm about halfway through the Starman Omnibus Vol. 1 and it's pretty awesome so far.

[D_Davis]

Animal Man is awesome.

[number8]

Oh, man. Punisher #59. Out-fucking-standing. Chilling, too.

Next month is Ennis' last issue. :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

[megladon8]

Great deals at Torpedo comics...

At least, until I got to the "Checkout" page and saw that the lowest shipping I could get on 3 TPB's was $44.

Yeah, I'll stick with Amazon.


EDIT: Nevermind, I can ship them to Jen's.

So what's the quality of the TPB's like? 'Cause $6.48 for "Marvel Visionaries: Peter David"...there's gotta be a catch.

[EyesWideOpen]

Great deals at Torpedo comics...

At least, until I got to the "Checkout" page and saw that the lowest shipping I could get on 3 TPB's was $44.

Yeah, I'll stick with Amazon.


EDIT: Nevermind, I can ship them to Jen's.

So what's the quality of the TPB's like? 'Cause $6.48 for "Marvel Visionaries: Peter David"...there's gotta be a catch.

no catch, everything i've got from them has been in perfect condition. they have free shipping on orders over i think $15 here in the US. is it coming up different for Canada?

[megladon8]

no catch, everything i've got from them has been in perfect condition. they have free shipping on orders over i think $15 here in the US. is it coming up different for Canada?


Yes, to ship to Ottawa, it was going to be $44 at their cheapest rate.

And that was just for 3 books.

[EyesWideOpen]

Yes, to ship to Ottawa, it was going to be $44 at their cheapest rate.

And that was just for 3 books.

wow, that sucks.

[Thirdmango]

The Long Halloween was awesome. I just read it and it really made Two Face a very credible villain for me.

[number8]

Yes, the Two-Face story in The Long Halloween is so good, it actually gets you to forget that the main story makes no goddamn sense.

[megladon8]

I liked "The Long Halloween", but definitely not as much as others - I've seen it called "the greatest Batman story ever", and I must respectfully disagree.

In fact, I liked "Dark Victory" more.

[megladon8]

Really loving "Ex Machina".

[EyesWideOpen]

I finished The Starman Omnibus Vol. 1 last night and it was amazing. I can't wait for the rest of the series to come out.

[ledfloyd]

Anyone fans of "Starman" or "Animal Man"?

I've passed these up so many times.
morrison's run on animal man is pretty amazing, i'm not sure if all the trades are in print. i couldn't find them awhile back so i used other means, they might have been reprinted.

i've never read starman, despite being a fan of tony harris.

[number8]

I think I need to sell all my Daredevil hardcovers and get that Bendis omnibus coming out next month.

[megladon8]

Was Frank Miller's "The Man Without Fear" origin story in the Omnibus? Or the Omnibus Companion?

If not, damn, that book really needs to get reprinted.

[EyesWideOpen]

Was Frank Miller's "The Man Without Fear" origin story in the Omnibus? Or the Omnibus Companion?

If not, damn, that book really needs to get reprinted.

I'm pretty sure those two books collect every Daredevil story he did. Their also is an Elektra by Frank Miller Omnibus coming out next month that should be awesome also.

[ledfloyd]

Was Frank Miller's "The Man Without Fear" origin story in the Omnibus? Or the Omnibus Companion?

If not, damn, that book really needs to get reprinted.
it's in the omnibus companion. the omnibus is his original run, the companion is the stuff he's done since then.

[ledfloyd]

i was just poking through animal man and remembered that issue #5 is possibly my favorite standalone issue in all of comics. it's just phenomenal. issue #6 is awful, silly event tie-ins mucking things up.

[number8]

Heh:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/MarkPoa/scans/marzomv3001_cov.jpg

[EyesWideOpen]

It took me like ten minutes to figure out what that was from. Pathetic.

[megladon8]

It took me like ten minutes to figure out what that was from. Pathetic.


I still don't know :sad:

[EyesWideOpen]

I still don't know :sad:

Hint.

It's a homage to a cult films movie poster.

[number8]

It took me like ten minutes to figure out what that was from. Pathetic.

He wrote the reference under his signature, you know.

[number8]

But anyway, this is my favorite cover in a really long time:

http://i.newsarama.com/preview_images/dcnew/oct08/4/ww_cv25.jpg

[EyesWideOpen]

He wrote the reference under his signature, you know.

yeah i didn't even pay attention to that until after. i have no interest in this Marvel Zombies stuff or else i would have remembered the Marvel Zombies/Army of Darkness crossover.

[Winston*]

I read the original Marvel Zombies series. In reading it, I realised there really is no reason to read Marvel Zombies, to know it exists is all that's needed.

[Acapelli]

Heh:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/MarkPoa/scans/marzomv3001_cov.jpg
i loved aaron stack's portrayal in ellis's nextwave book, although i doubt they'll keep him like that

"my robot brain needs beer"

[ledfloyd]

man, i'm so glad meg mentioned animal man. i've been rereading them and having my mind blown all over again. the first four issues are very good. the fifth issue is amazing and hints at what's later to come. after that it flounders a bit, but in the mid teens alot of little things from previous issues start coming together and oh my god is it great. morrison finds a really unique way to break the bounds between fiction and reality. he addresses continuity and what happens when continuity is changed in really crazy ways.

it is, like alot of grant morrison's work. a mindfuck.

[megladon8]

Yes, I love Grant Morrison.

He's done some fantastic Batman stuff. Have you read "Arkham Asylum"?

[ledfloyd]

Yes, I love Grant Morrison.

He's done some fantastic Batman stuff. Have you read "Arkham Asylum"?
no, but i really really need to.

[Acapelli]

i'm pretty excited about the prospect of a mark waid incredibles comic

[D_Davis]

Has Groo ever been collected in massive trades?

[number8]

So what's everyone's favorite Morrison?

Mine's a toss-up between New X-Men and Doom Patrol. Interesting that they both have very similar concepts. I think Morrison was born to write cool surrealistic stories of a band of freaks led by an eccentric handicapped man.

[Acapelli]

probably seven soldiers

then doom patrol and seaguy

[number8]

I hate Seven Soldiers. Seaguy was cool, if you like that you should find Flex Mentallo.

[megladon8]

I really like "Arkham Asylum".

I'm also a big fan of "New X-Men". The "E is for Extinction" storyline may be my favorite X-Men story.

[Acapelli]

I hate Seven Soldiers. Seaguy was cool, if you like that you should find Flex Mentallo.
yeah i like flex mentallo too, actually my morrison ranking would probably go something like this

1. seven soldiers
2. all-star superman (even if it's still going)
3. doom patrol
4. seaguy
5. new x-men
6. we3
7. flex mentallo

pretty much love em all

[Grouchy]

New X-Men for sure. The "E is for Extinction" and pretty much everything else up to the "Days of Future Past" remake.

If only Frank Quitely would've drawn all of those comic-books, and not one every once in a while.

[ledfloyd]

the last trade of animal man might be my favorite. even if there are some bumps along the way getting there. i love all-star superman. i had never really liked superman until i read it. his run on batman seems to be coming together and could be epic.

i'm reading doom patrol right now and loving it. i need to read invisibles and arkham asylum and new x-men.

[number8]

D'awwwww!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/PaulSebert/Riddler8.jpg

[Acapelli]

if arkham asylum is anything like morrison's prose issue of batman, i think i'll pass

what an overwrought piece of garbage

[Grouchy]

D'awwwww!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/PaulSebert/Riddler8.jpg
I've got that issue. It's pretty good. An interviewing team goes around, asking the villains about their origins. The Penguin segment is fantastic, and at the end, the Joker slaughters the journalists, of course.

[Acapelli]

i don't really understand the hate for seven soldiers

[number8]

This (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/5960161.html) is how you do a funny, light-hearted Batman story while maintaining his grim and gritty persona.

[Acapelli]

oh man, jason aaron + black panther + skrulls = totally badass

[number8]

oh man, jason aaron = totally badass

Fixed.

[Acapelli]

so everyone's favorite current writers?

bendis (new avengers, mighty avengers, powers, secret invasion)
brubaker (daredevil, captain america, criminal)
johns (jsa, green lantern, action comics)
ennis (punisher, boys)
slott (amazing spider-man, avengers: initiative)
morrison (batman, final crisis, all-star superman)
david (x-factor, she hulk)

[EyesWideOpen]

so everyone's favorite current writers?


Ed Brubaker
Brian Michael Bendis
Jason Aaron
Greg Rucka
Paul Cornell
Geoff Johns
Peter Tomasi
Paul Dini
Brian K. Vaughan

[ledfloyd]

Brian K. Vaughan
Ed Brubaker
Alan Moore
Grant Morrison
Darwyn Cooke

[megladon8]

What has Jason Aaron been doing?

I've been out of the loop so long with recent releases, I don't recognize the name.

[Acapelli]

scalped is his first well known project, than he did the get mystique arc on wolverine and is the new ghost rider writer

[megladon8]

scalped is his first well known project, than he did the get mystique arc on wolverine and is the new ghost rider writer


Yes, he did the "Death of Wolverine" book, didn't he?

I avoided that one, because usually the "Death of..." books tend to suck.

Was it actually good?

[Acapelli]

he didn't do the death of wolverine arc, marc guggenheim did

[number8]

Ranking the Joker's Asylum books:

1. Penguin - Friggin' awesome (written by our new fav Jason Aaron!)
2. Two-Face - Intriguing and fun ending
3. Scarecrow - Used the horror gimmick best
4. Joker - Meh
5. Poison Ivy - Terrible

[megladon8]

he didn't do the death of wolverine arc, marc guggenheim did


His name is on the TPB...

[ledfloyd]

i just started rereading Watchmen. it really is so good it makes every other comic i've read look bad by comparison. even the majority of Moore's other work. it's so intricately plotted, there isn't a wasted frame or storyline. and it's so damn good.

[Acapelli]

His name is on the TPB...
well he did do the issue before the arc started, so maybe that's included in the tpb

[megladon8]

i just started rereading Watchmen. it really is so good it makes every other comic i've read look bad by comparison. even the majority of Moore's other work. it's so intricately plotted, there isn't a wasted frame or storyline. and it's so damn good.


Yeah it's pretty great, but this is a little much.

I've never been on its "best comic EVAH!" bandwagon.

Moore's work on "Swamp Thing" is better.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I read the entire run of a series called "Girls" by the Luna Brothers. Anyone read it? Not sure how I feel about it. It was fucked up, that's for sure.

[number8]

Man, how anyone can not think that Watchmen is the greatest thing ever written is weird to me. It's like saying the sky is purple, or the moon is made of scissors.

[Ezee E]

Man, how anyone can not think that Watchmen is the greatest thing ever written is weird to me. It's like saying the sky is purple, or the moon is made of scissors.
poor poor meg

[Grouchy]

Yeah it's pretty great, but this is a little much.

I've never been on its "best comic EVAH!" bandwagon.

Moore's work on "Swamp Thing" is better.
No, as much as I like Swamp Thing, V for Vendetta, Killing Joke or his ABC stuff I find it hard to argue that Watchmen will probably always be Moore's masterwork.

Among many other things, I think the complexity of his writing simply applies better to a 12-issue series which can be planned from page 1 to the last than to something like Swamp Thing where he clearly had an idea of where he was going but had to fill an issue every month. And besides, Dave Gibbons is just awesome.

[number8]

Paul Dini: covering Jeph Loeb's ass since 2008.

[Acapelli]

Paul Dini: covering Jeph Loeb's ass since 2008.
?

[number8]

?

Hush is a lame character with one of the most retarded origins of Batman's rogues. Paul Dini is retconning an expanded origin story in his current Detective arc. Much, much, much better and I'm impressed that he's making Loeb's moronic anti-Batman concept not only work, but tragic as well.

[Acapelli]

eh, i stopped reading detective, it's been mediocre for a while, although i have been loving nguyen's art

[megladon8]

No, as much as I like Swamp Thing, V for Vendetta, Killing Joke or his ABC stuff I find it hard to argue that Watchmen will probably always be Moore's masterwork.

Among many other things, I think the complexity of his writing simply applies better to a 12-issue series which can be planned from page 1 to the last than to something like Swamp Thing where he clearly had an idea of where he was going but had to fill an issue every month. And besides, Dave Gibbons is just awesome.


Eh, different strokes I guess.

Don't get me wrong, "Watchmen" is a bonafide masterpiece, and one of the definitive examples of what comic books are capable of.

But in terms of raw, personal taste, there are several books I find more enjoyable.

I'd rank "Batman: Year One", "Saga of the Swamp Thing", "Superman: Secret Identity" and "The Dark Phoenix Saga" above "Watchmen" if I were to do a favorites list.

[megladon8]

How about some thoughts on "The Invisibles"?

[Grouchy]

Eh, different strokes I guess.

Don't get me wrong, "Watchmen" is a bonafide masterpiece, and one of the definitive examples of what comic books are capable of.

But in terms of raw, personal taste, there are several books I find more enjoyable.

I'd rank "Batman: Year One", "Saga of the Swamp Thing", "Superman: Secret Identity" and "The Dark Phoenix Saga" above "Watchmen" if I were to do a favorites list.
Ok, I was talking about Moore's stuff, not the entire history of comics against Watchmen. Although now that I re-read it, that's what the original post was all about.

Of course there's no definitive best comic of all time.

[number8]

The Boys #21 = pretty much out-"thass fucked up"-ing Ex Machina in the "What happens when superheroes try to stop 9/11" department. Jesus Christ.

[Acapelli]

The Boys #21 = pretty much out-"thass fucked up"-ing Ex Machina in the "What happens when superheroes try to stop 9/11" department. Jesus Christ.
it's been getting better and better lately, with this arc probably being my favorite so far

[Acapelli]

Miracleman>Watchmen

for me at least

[ledfloyd]

i gave up on the boys around issue 10 or so. just wasn't doin' it for me.

i haven't read miracleman. it's impossible to track down.

[Winston*]

i gave up on the boys around issue 10 or so. just wasn't doin' it for me.

Yeah, it's crap.

[Acapelli]

yeah miracleman has been oop for a really long time since it's wrapped up in some legal bs

just download it

[number8]

it's been getting better and better lately, with this arc probably being my favorite so far

Well, this arc isn't just the best one, it also the one to shed some light into the whole premise's conflict other than "Garth Ennis hates superheroes and thinks CIA badasses are cooler." The whole alternate American and comic book history he's created in this arc is just fucked up. From this point on, he can't exactly go back to the silly supes-whoring-and-getting-high stories anymore. I'm confident that once he starts expanding Billy Butcher's story, it can be a really great series. Hitman, which is my fav Ennis to ate, started off the same way--short, silly, let's take a piss on DC superheroes (I still don't know how the fucking hell he got away with making Green Lantern a borderline retard who ended up being sodomized while unconscious)--but it grew into something truly poignant and emotionally devastating because of the characters. I'm waiting for him to gradually move The Boys in that direction.

[number8]

yeah miracleman has been oop for a really long time since it's wrapped up in some legal bs

just download it

That's what I did. Fuck Todd McFarlane.

[number8]

Another thing, I didn't bother buying the yet-again-rebooted Authority #1, because Wildstorm U can suck my dick at this point, but I managed to read a few pages and boy, the Apollo/Midnighter situation was so unbelievably sad. They're one of my favorite romantic couples in comic books, and what they've done is just so heartbreakingly tragic.

[number8]

Greatest disclaimer/recap ever:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LurkerWithout/Books%20and%20comics/scans_daily/SpideySummerCoover1.jpg

[megladon8]

So "Brand New Day" is good, then?

[number8]

So "Brand New Day" is good, then?

How'd you get that idea?

[Acapelli]

So "Brand New Day" is good, then?
yeah, at least the dan slott and zeb wells stuff is

marc guggenheim's stuff is serviceable, and bob gale fuckin blows

[megladon8]

How'd you get that idea?


That funny little disclaimer you posted.

It said "...before or after Brand New Day, which is the only Spider-Man that matters."

I assumed that meant it was good.

[number8]

That funny little disclaimer you posted.

It said "...before or after Brand New Day, which is the only Spider-Man that matters."

I assumed that meant it was good.

It was snarkly sarcastic, given the hate that BND's been receiving from fans, which is why I thought the disclaimer was hilarious.

[megladon8]

It was snarkly sarcastic, given the hate that BND's been receiving from fans, which is why I thought the disclaimer was hilarious.


Ah, well, I've not really been following comics lately - that is to say, I've been reading a lot, but not much new stuff.

In fact I just made a big order from Amazon...

-Starman Omnibus
-Punisher: Circle of Blood
-Spider-Man/Doctor Octopus: Negative Exposure
-Spider-Man: Death of the Stacys
-Spider-Man: Kraven's Last Hunt
-Y: The Last Man Vol. 10

[EyesWideOpen]

great choice with the Starman Omnibus, one of the best books i've read in awhile. I also just got that Spider-Man/Doctor Octopus a month or so ago from torpedocomics for $6 and it's decent.

[megladon8]

great choice with the Starman Omnibus, one of the best books i've read in awhile. I also just got that Spider-Man/Doctor Octopus a month or so ago from torpedocomics for $6 and it's decent.


Awesome! :)

The next "Starman" omnibus comes out in a few weeks, I think.

There are a few great omnibuses (or is the plural omnibi?) coming out this fall. The Garth Ennis "Punisher" omnibus will be mine, as will the Bendis "Daredevil".

And I still need to get the last three volums of Jack Kirby's "Fourth World".

[EyesWideOpen]

Awesome! :)

The next "Starman" omnibus comes out in a few weeks, I think.

There are a few great omnibuses (or is the plural omnibi?) coming out this fall. The Garth Ennis "Punisher" omnibus will be mine, as will the Bendis "Daredevil".

And I still need to get the last three volums of Jack Kirby's "Fourth World".

I already have the Ennis Punisher and Bendis Daredevil one's preordered from amazon, can't wait.

[Acapelli]

It was snarkly sarcastic, given the hate that BND's been receiving from fans, which is why I thought the disclaimer was hilarious.
but most comic book fans who talk about it on the internet are pretty stupid

i mean just browsing through the newsarama comments/board makes me want to tear my hair out

[Acapelli]

and the preview for the next r.i.p. issue looks fuckin great

i can't wait

[number8]

but most comic book fans who talk about it on the internet are pretty stupid

i mean just browsing through the newsarama comments/board makes me want to tear my hair out

A fitting crowd for such a stupid idea.

[Acapelli]

i will say that omd was awful (although the art was great, and i absolutely loved those covers), but bnd has been incredibly entertaining so far. i just think the people complaining about it never really gave it a chance to begin with, never reading it on its own terms

[ledfloyd]

and the preview for the next r.i.p. issue looks fuckin great

i can't wait
morrison's run is starting to come together, and it kicks ass. i fully expect my mind to be blown over the next few issues.

[number8]

Tom Cruise, Barack Obama and Stephen Colbert are skrulls.

Oh, Bendis.

[Watashi]

Hey Ary, did you know about this:


For me, The Incredibles is the most worthy Pixar film deserving of the sequel treatment. But for one reason or another, Pixar would rather make Cars 2 (boo) and another Toy Story film (which to be fair, could be good… but seems unnecessary) . Instead, The Incredibles sequel (which is being referred to by writer Mark Waid as “Incredibles 1.5″) is being wasted as a comic book series, which will begin to hit comic book store shelves in April. Waid reveals to MTV that the story will take place shortly after the events of the original Brad Bird film, and the first four-issue arc will tell the story of Mr. Incredible, whose powers are begining to fade. Basically, he’s getting older, and he doesn’t want to tell his family or go to the doctor.

Six issues have been written, Darwyn Cooke is doing the cover art, but no artist has been hired yet for the actual inside art. Apparently the plan is to launch other Pixar franchises as monthly comic book series. Toy Story is next, with eventual plans to have six different titles released per month. I’m guessing the line-up will be: The Incredibles, Toy Story, Monster’s Inc, WALL-E, Finding Nemo and Cars As much as I’m actually looking forward to these comics, I’d disappointed that Disney won’t take The Incredibles to the big screen one more time. The storyline in the comic book seems perfect for a sequel. It also seems like they are attracting big name comic talent to provide the art for the books. I’d much rather see some of the in house Pixar arts provide something more unique, rather than the same old comic book style art.

I'm kinda bummed there will be no sequel.

[Acapelli]

i posted about that on the last page

edit: page before last actually

[Grouchy]

I already saw some Incredibles comics the other day in the store.

Which are those? Or are they these, and they've already come out? Seemed like four different issues already. I didn't check to see who was writing.

[Acapelli]

it's probably this

http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/10-381/The-Incredibles-1-of-4

looks like a straight adaptation of the film

[Grouchy]

it's probably this

http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/10-381/The-Incredibles-1-of-4

looks like a straight adaptation of the film
Yeah, those are the ones I saw. Thanks.

Either way, Darwyn Cooke looks like a good fix to draw the series instead of just the covers.

[Acapelli]

Yeah, those are the ones I saw. Thanks.

Either way, Darwyn Cooke looks like a good fix to draw the series instead of just the covers.
a darwyn cooke pencilled incredibles comic would be amazing

[megladon8]

A few titles I'm really interested in checking out...

-The Immortal Iron Fist
-Thunderbolts
-The Invisibles
-Next Wave

Thoughts on any of these?

[EyesWideOpen]

Nextwave and Immortal Iron Fist are both fantastic. I picked up the first tpb of The Invisibles a few weeks ago at a used book store but haven't read it yet. Thunderbolts i haven't read but it's been getting rave reviews.

[megladon8]

Nextwave and Immortal Iron Fist are both fantastic. I picked up the first tpb of The Invisibles a few weeks ago at a used book store but haven't read it yet. Thunderbolts i haven't read but it's been getting rave reviews.


Sweet.

I'm really liking a lot of these superhero titles that aren't top tier or tentpole titles (like Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, etc.)

Not that I don't love those characters, but it's great to have the variety.

[EyesWideOpen]

Nextwave ended after 12 issues and it's collected in two tpb's. Immortal Iron Fist is ongoing but Brubaker & Fraction who were writing the series left and last issue was the first for a new writer (i still liked it).

[number8]

*sniff*

Goodbye, Ennis.

[Acapelli]

nextwave is my favorite ellis book i've read. so much fun, hilarious, and immomen's pencils are great

[megladon8]

"Supreme Power" looks pretty cool.

[number8]

LOL, someone just brought something up to me that made me laugh.

Any non-reader who randomly picks up a Batman issue after seeing The Dark Knight? Imagine them getting one of Morrison's R.I.P issues.

[Acapelli]

LOL, someone just brought something up to me that made me laugh.

Any non-reader who randomly picks up a Batman issue after seeing The Dark Knight? Imagine them getting one of Morrison's R.I.P issues.
:lol:

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7867/batman019hf6.jpg

[D_Davis]

"Supreme Power" looks pretty cool.

It's pretty great. It reminds me a lot of Astro City in the way it reexamines and deconstructs the super hero archetype, although it is more cynical and less romantic than Astro City.

[ledfloyd]

LOL, someone just brought something up to me that made me laugh.

Any non-reader who randomly picks up a Batman issue after seeing The Dark Knight? Imagine them getting one of Morrison's R.I.P issues.
Morrison's RIP has been absolutely sublime so far.

[Acapelli]

It's pretty great. It reminds me a lot of Astro City in the way it reexamines and deconstructs the super hero archetype, although it is more cynical and less romantic than Astro City.
i just looked this up, and saw that gary frank did the pencils. i guess i'll have to check it out, since his work on action comics is fantastic

[number8]

Eh, I dug it, but I don't find any reexamination and deconstruction of the superhero in Supreme Power. It really felt more like the JLA version of The Ultimates to me.

I don't find it similar to Astro City at all. In fact, I see it as the complete opposite.

[number8]

:lol:

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7867/batman019hf6.jpg

Or:

http://i38.tinypic.com/1z1emb6.jpg


"Mommy, why is Batman talking to statues and imaginary midgets? And why is he in red, yellow and purple? That's not like that in the movieeeee!"

[Acapelli]

the tracking device in the teeth was so cool

[number8]

the tracking device in the teeth was so cool

Fucking everything about this story is cool.

Leave it to Morrison to turn Batman into a hallucinating homeless heroin addict wearing crazy sewn together costume... and makes it dastardly compelling.

[Acapelli]

it's probably my most anticipated book each month

probably the only thing i slightly dislike about r.i.p. is tony daniels, but i can understand why they have someone like him on the book. it makes sense to ground the story using jim lee-style pencils, as opposed to a jh williams III

[ledfloyd]

it's probably my most anticipated book each month

probably the only thing i slightly dislike about r.i.p. is tony daniels, but i can understand why they have someone like him on the book. it makes sense to ground the story using jim lee-style pencils, as opposed to a jh williams III
those three issues he did with williams were amazing. art-wise.

[Acapelli]

those three issues he did with williams were amazing. art-wise.
and speaking of that arc, it's nice to see that the club of heroes are gonna factor in r.i.p. somehow

[Winston*]

K. I'm going to have to check out that Morrison book.

[number8]

and speaking of that arc, it's nice to see that the club of heroes are gonna factor in r.i.p. somehow

I knew it was coming, because Morrison said that every single arc he did (save for the dumb Ra's Al Ghul crossover, obviously) will have a significance in RIP. I'm waiting for Damian's return.

[megladon8]

Is this (http://www.amazon.com/Batman-R-I-P-Deluxe-HC/dp/1401220908/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218985364&sr=8-1) going to collect all this cool Morrison stuff?

I haven't been buying singles in nearly a year, so I'll wait for the trade...but if this is it, then let me know, because I'll pre-order it.

[EyesWideOpen]

Is this (http://www.amazon.com/Batman-R-I-P-Deluxe-HC/dp/1401220908/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218985364&sr=8-1) going to collect all this cool Morrison stuff?

I haven't been buying singles in nearly a year, so I'll wait for the trade...but if this is it, then let me know, because I'll pre-order it.

That is only going to collect the "RIP" arc. It will not collect all the Morrison Batman arcs that lead up to RIP and reading those are pretty integral to the overall story.

[megladon8]

That is only going to collect the "RIP" arc. It will not collect all the Morrison Batman arcs that lead up to RIP and reading those are pretty integral to the overall story.


Are those collected in other TPB's?

[number8]

Are those collected in other TPB's?

Some of them. Batman & Son, and then The Black Glove comes out next month.

[megladon8]

Some of them. Batman & Son, and then The Black Glove comes out next month.


Like this Batman story with the multi-coloured, hallucinating Batman.

Is it going to be collected, do you know?

It sounds great, like something I'd really enjoy. But I really don't want to get into buying singles again, because I honextly don't have enough self-control. Before I know it I'll be subscribed to 25 titles at once.

[EyesWideOpen]

The current Batman arc is R.I.P. that is the one that you linked to earlier.

[number8]

Hee hee hee hee. I haven't been reading Superman/Batman for ever, but I am totally getting this arc.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2rdhsmt.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/dyun37.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/5vtcw5.jpg

[megladon8]

Can anyone point me to any good "Shazam!" stories?

[megladon8]

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5223/galactusxq5.jpg

[megladon8]

Finished re-reading "Watchmen" today.

It's brilliant, wonderful, beautiful, and just as (maybe even more) relevant.

But I still maintain that I enjoy other comic books a lot more. I've probably had enough "Watchmen" now until the movie comes out.

[megladon8]

Any recommendations for good "Thor" books?

[EyesWideOpen]

Any recommendations for good "Thor" books?

I've never read one. I recommend The Ultimates 1 & 2 which has a good characterization of Thor but besides that i'm drawing a blank.

Edit: i mean i've never read a good one not that i've never read a thor book.

[ledfloyd]

i've never read a comic with thor in it as far as i can remember.

[number8]

Garth Ennis' Thor: Vikings isn't a good base on the character, bit it was ducking hilarious. I like it when writers don't treat Dr Strange so seriously like he's high and mighty.

[EyesWideOpen]

My copy of Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis Omnibus came in the mail today and damn is it huge. It's as thick as a phone book.

[megladon8]

My copy of Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis Omnibus came in the mail today and damn is it huge. It's as thick as a phone book.


How did you get it so early? Doesn't it come out this time next month?

[EyesWideOpen]

How did you get it so early? Doesn't it come out this time next month?

No it's out. My copy is from amazon and they also had it at my local comic book store this wednesday.

[megladon8]

No it's out. My copy is from amazon and they also had it at my local comic book store this wednesday.


It says on both Amazon.ca and Amazon.com "In stock on September 22nd".

[EyesWideOpen]

It says on both Amazon.ca and Amazon.com "In stock on September 22nd".

Amazon's dates for comic books are usually screwy. Here's a link straight from marvel.com saying it came out aug 27th. http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=8925

[megladon8]

Gonna start reading "Nextwave" today.

[megladon8]

"Nextwave" is freaking awesome.

One of the funniest books I've ever read, and a great slam-bang action book to boot.

I love this.

[Acapelli]

"Nextwave" is freaking awesome.

One of the funniest books I've ever read, and a great slam-bang action book to boot.

I love this.
pretty much

[EyesWideOpen]

I've been on a huge tpb buying binge lately. In the last 2 weeks i've gotten:

Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis Omnibus
Sandman Presents: Dead Boy Detectives TPB (Ed Brubaker vertigo miniseries)
Batman: Going Sane TPB
Nextwave TPB Vol 1 & 2
New X-Men by Grant Morrision Ultimate Collection Vol 2 TPB
Ex Machina Hardcover Vol 1 (collects first 11 issues)
The Flash: Wonderland TPB
American Virgin TPB Vol 4

[megladon8]

Why did Warren Ellis' "Fell" only last for like 6 issues?

It's awesome.

I guess it's yet another title to have succumbed to the Image curse.

[megladon8]

My copy of Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis Omnibus came in the mail today and damn is it huge. It's as thick as a phone book.


The Garth Ennis Punisher omnibus is nearly 300 pages longer than this one!

:eek:

[Acapelli]

Why did Warren Ellis' "Fell" only last for like 6 issues?

It's awesome.

I guess it's yet another title to have succumbed to the Image curse.
actually, there have been 9 issues (the first 8 collected in the trade). i just started picking it up with 9, and ellis said that they would be going back on a regular schedule soon (this was back in january)

[megladon8]

actually, there have been 9 issues (the first 8 collected in the trade). i just started picking it up with 9, and ellis said that they would be going back on a regular schedule soon (this was back in january)


Really?

Is there a Volume 2 of the trades somewhere?

I have Volume 1, and I think it's only 6 issues.

[EyesWideOpen]

Really?

Is there a Volume 2 of the trades somewhere?

I have Volume 1, and I think it's only 6 issues.

nope their is only one volume of the tpb's and it's 8 issues.

[megladon8]

"Nextwave" gets better with every issue.

Ellis' flippant dialogue is awesome.

[megladon8]

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5363/nextwaveto5.jpg

[Grouchy]

The Garth Ennis Punisher omnibus is nearly 300 pages longer than this one!

:eek:
Do these include EVERYTHING each writer did with the character?

I mean, does the Punisher one include Born, the Marvel Knights issues and the MAX issues?

If so, they're an excellent investment.

[EyesWideOpen]

It collects all of Ennis's Punisher stuff that is not his MAX stuff (since that is already collected in hardcovers). It includes all of his Marvel Knights run and Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe.

[Grouchy]

It collects all of Ennis's Punisher stuff that is not his MAX stuff (since that is already collected in hardcovers). It includes all of his Marvel Knights run and Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe.
That's a bit disappointing. It's still a great item, but simply not as awesome.

The Daredevil one I'm assuming includes all the Bendis issues, since it's comparatively a shorter run.

[number8]

I'm pretty sure they're going to release a Born + All 60 issues of MAX + The Tyger + The Cell omnibus next.

[EyesWideOpen]

I'm pretty sure they're going to release a Born + All 60 issues of MAX + The Tyger + The Cell omnibus next.

that would make no sense though since those were all recently released in hardcover volumes. i'm not saying it won't happen but i doubt it very seriously.

[EyesWideOpen]

That's a bit disappointing. It's still a great item, but simply not as awesome.

The Daredevil one I'm assuming includes all the Bendis issues, since it's comparatively a shorter run.

The Daredevil omnibus is a volume 1 so it contains half of his run basically. It collects Daredevil #16-19, 26-50, and 56-60. If it was any bigger it would be almost impossible to read.

[megladon8]

Wow, I had no idea Brian Michael Bendis has been writing "The Mighty Avengers".

Is it worth checking out?

[Acapelli]

Wow, I had no idea Brian Michael Bendis has been writing "The Mighty Avengers".

Is it worth checking out?
it's not nearly as good as new avengers, although a few of the secret invasion tie-ins have been great, especially the ones with nick fury

[megladon8]

it's not nearly as good as new avengers, although a few of the secret invasion tie-ins have been great, especially the ones with nick fury


There are so many different series' - both Marvel and DC - that I want to check out, but I really don't want to get back into buying singles.

The whole "Green Lantern: Sinestro Wars" thing is supposed to be incredible - I've seen it called "the best series of 2007".

[Acapelli]

the sinestro corps war is fucking awesome. if it weren't for geoff johns and grant morrison, dc would be dead

final crisis has been great so far too, including the tie-ins that have been written by johns, morrison and rucka

[megladon8]

the sinestro corps war is fucking awesome. if it weren't for geoff johns and grant morrison, dc would be dead

final crisis has been great so far too, including the tie-ins that have been written by johns, morrison and rucka


Do you need any backstory for the "Sinestro War" stuff to make sense?

I was thinking of picking up the two trades.

[Acapelli]

and i've said it before, but the legion of superheroes arc in action comics was good comics

[Acapelli]

well, i mean there has to be some level of understanding of the dc universe, but as someone who is still relatively new to comics (the sinestro corps one-shot was one of the first dc superhero comic i picked up), i think johns did a good job of making it fairly easy to read

i did do some wiki-ing for some stuff (superboy-prime, anti-monitor, parallax)

[megladon8]

and i've said it before, but the legion of superheroes arc in action comics was good comics


You mean this? (http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1401218199/ref=pd_luc_sbs_03_02)

[Acapelli]

You mena this? (http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1401218199/ref=pd_luc_sbs_03_02)
yup

[monolith94]

Read the first "The Authority" tpb. Pretty entertaining. Does anyone know if it gets worse/better from here on in?

[Ezee E]

Are just the Punisher MAX books all available somewhere?

[Acapelli]

Read the first "The Authority" tpb. Pretty entertaining. Does anyone know if it gets worse/better from here on in?
the millar and ellis stuff is great

i even enjoyed the brubaker run, but didn't read any of the stuff in between the two series

[EyesWideOpen]

Are just the Punisher MAX books all available somewhere?

Yeah their up to volume 4 in oversized hardcovers. Each volume contains around 12 issues and retails for $29.99 although you can find them cheaper on amazon.

[megladon8]

"Nextwave" was awesome right to the end.

My favorite part of the whole series, though, has to be when Elsa Bloodstone shoots one of he giant rock monsters and it blows up.

A look of complete joy overcomes her face and she says, "Oh my god...they blow up. My life has new meaning."

Also, I love this cover...

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/3356/391pxnextwaveissue11yx0.jpg

[D_Davis]

That is a cool cover.

[megladon8]

That is a cool cover.


The "Mark Millar Licks Goats" sign had me chuckling :lol:

[megladon8]

I've read a lot of complaints from people who thought the idea in "Ultimate Galactus" of people going insane just from seeing him or knowing of his existence was a stupid idea.

That's a very Lovecraftian idea, and I think it's actually pretty cool that Warren Ellis incorporated that into the story.

Ellis is quickly becoming one of my very favorite comic book writers.

He wrote the best Iron Man story in years (and it's without a doubt one of the best ever), "Nextwave", and a plethora of other great books.

[ledfloyd]

Re: Final Crisis. I have absolutely no knowledge of the DCU outside of Batman and very limited experience with Superman. I picked up the DC Universe #0 to try to pick up on the backstory. I didn't really get much from it. I read two issues of Final Crisis and gave up. I had no idea who half the people were and very little clue as to what was going on. So, I'd say you have to be pretty fluent in the DCU. Grant said the #0 book would be enough introduction for anyone, but it didn't work for me.

[Acapelli]

well even being fluent in dc continuity couldn't help much

this is grant morrison we're talking about

[number8]

I don't think it's Morrison's fault. The DC universe doesn't lend itself well to a company universe concept like Marvel. There are way too many contradicting elements and characters in the DCU (Suicide Squad, JLA, Doom Patrol--same universe? Yeah...), and it doesn't help that they consistently hire editors who don't know jack shit about creating a cohesive playground or even how to maintain it. I don't know why people would want to bother with Final Crisis or any of the other crisises. It's utter bollocks. Their characters perform much better when they are featured as self-contained stories by the same writer. No wonder that some of the best Batman, Superman, etc. stories are Elseworlds, non-canon or set in an undetermined past. Trying to follow the DC universe or any of their crossovers and big events is like asking for Hunter S. Thompson to feed you Quaaludes non-stop.