David Lynch: Awesome

[number8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0

[Sven]

Awesome. He's been getting kind of feisty. Good for him.

[monolith94]

Awesome. He's been getting kind of feisty. Good for him.
Must be all that TM.

[balmakboor]

Somebody had to say it. :)

[Rowland]

I've been reading about this for days. Is it really that news-worthy?

[ledfloyd]

you know, that's only the second time i've heard lynch say fuck. the first was his interview about product placement. i thought he was kinda notorious for not swearing? he's turning into a curmudgeon. and it's awesome.

speaking of TM is his 'catching the big fish' book any good? anyone that's read it?

[Mysterious Dude]

You hardly ever hear people in the sixties saying "fuck" these days. And he says it so venomously. He should teach other people how to say "fuck".

[chrisnu]

I think he's right. However, I watch movies on my computer all the time. :eek:

This is the only other time I've heard him curse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE

[number8]

The fact that the interviewer went silent made me laugh.

[transmogrifier]

I watch the odd sitcom on my iPod from time to time. Nothing bad about that. Movies, not so much.

[Wryan]

on a . . . fucking telephone.

[origami_mustache]

Oh god that is so awesome...the iphone music really does it for me. hahaha
Who would want to watch a film on an i anything in the first place?

[Winston*]

He says "fucking" like that guy in Fargo that doesn't want to pay for the true coat.

[Sycophant]

Love Lynch. You cordial, cranky curmudgeon.

[number8]

Love Lynch. You cordial, cranky curmudgeon.

But he's not a cranky guy. That's why this is so funny.

[Sycophant]

But he's not a cranky guy. That's why this is so funny.
You're right. I think that was supposed to be crazy.

[Sycophant]

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if I agree with him. The only things I've watched on handheld devices are some videos that I've done that I carry around on my MP3 player. However, I know some people lobbed (and still lob) the same criticisms about watching stuff on television, or listening to MP3s, or, I don't know, not hearing it directly from the lips of Homer.

Admittedly, the idea of watching something on such a small screen isn't appealing to me, but if someone can feel the experience in the same way, then they can. :confused:

[D_Davis]

This reminds me of when Thurston Moore said that music played from iPods isn't the real thing, or something along those pompous, artsy lines.

To that I said, okay, so I won't buy Sonic Youth stuff from iTunes (we won't even mention the irony that their music is available on iTunes), and since I don't buy CDs anymore, I won't be buying any Sonic Youth. Except I eventually broke down and bought the remastered Daydream Nation, from iTunes. But when I listen to it, I remind myself that what I am hearing isn't real.

[Rowland]

This reminds me of when Thurston Moore said that music played from iPods isn't the real thing, or something along those pompous, artsy lines.

To that I said, okay, so I won't buy Sonic Youth stuff from iTunes (we won't even mention the irony that their music is available on iTunes), and since I don't buy CDs anymore, I won't be buying any Sonic Youth. Except I eventually broke down and bought the remastered Daydream Nation, from iTunes. But when I listen to it, I remind myself that what I am hearing isn't real.That's a bit different than, say, watching Lawrence of Arabia on the big screen as compared to a two-inch screen. That said, I think it's fair to reason that most people don't experience movies in what could be described as absolutely ideal circumstances. I know that I sure don't.

[number8]

This reminds me of when Thurston Moore said that music played from iPods isn't the real thing, or something along those pompous, artsy lines.

To that I said, okay, so I won't buy Sonic Youth stuff from iTunes (we won't even mention the irony that their music is available on iTunes), and since I don't buy CDs anymore, I won't be buying any Sonic Youth. Except I eventually broke down and bought the remastered Daydream Nation, from iTunes. But when I listen to it, I remind myself that what I am hearing isn't real.

Dude, this is a completely ill-fitting analogy. There is no size issue in music, as you can control the volume. In some cases, the digital files have clearer sound than LPs or CDs.

I don't think Lynch was being artsy, I think he was befuddled, as am I, why anyone would watch a movie on a tiny screen. Especially for a filmmaker as visual as Lynch, it's a terrible disservice to forgo the details included in a movie's cinematography because you're watching it on a fucking telephone. It's an entirely different issue.

[D_Davis]

double-post, some how...

[D_Davis]

Dude, this is a completely ill-fitting analogy. There is no size issue in music..


Why yes there certainly is "size" in music. This is like musicology 101.

It's called the stereo-field. Sounds resided in different spaces, and, truth be told, the "space" found in an MP3 is "smaller" because of the compression. Analog recordings/masterings do, in fact, have more "space."

However, as a producer and engineer, I do not belittle the MP3, I embrace it for a number of reasons. I think the power of good music, like that of a good film, can be conveyed through any method of delivery. Yes, some are better than others, but I do not believe that an inferior method of delivery can totally strip a great song or film of its power to engage.

Also, part of the power of music is the context in which it is listened to. Listening to certain songs, in certain places, at certain times, can totally change the way one is engaged by the music. In this sense, the compactness of the MP3 and the ability this format has to be carried around on small devices greatly increases the number of places the music can be heard.

[Buffaluffasaurus]

This argument reminds of Baudrillard's idea that everything is a simulacrum in music. Even the cleanest, purest recording is still a recording, and different to the experience of sitting in the same room as the musicians. No amount of technology can actually make us "hear" a Beatles song. We are hearing merely reproductions of reproductions. Embrace it!

[D_Davis]

This argument reminds of Baudrillard's idea that everything is a simulacrum in music. Even the cleanest, purest recording is still a recording, and different to the experience of sitting in the same room as the musicians. No amount of technology can actually make us "hear" a Beatles song. We are hearing merely reproductions of reproductions. Embrace it!

You could carry the analogy even further though. All sound is a simulacrum. The true sound of something really cannot be heard because there are too many factors to take into consideration in order to produce the perfect listening conditions. Our ears pick up on vibrations, but from the point of creation to the point where our ears work, there are a number of things that taint and shape the vibrations. Temperature, distance, humidity, acoustics, all of these things change the way things sound. Add in the process of recording and you in fact add in layers of sound tampering.

[D_Davis]

In some cases, the digital files have clearer sound than LPs or CDs.


Oh, and I should have addressed this along with the "size" of music. "Clearer" doesn't really mean anything, especially if you are talking about the fidelity of a recording. LPs will always have the best, warmest, and truest sound, if they are kept clean, and if the needle and equipment are of good quality. Almost 25% of the actual sounds are lost when going to CD from LP - all from the highest high ends and lowest low ends. Even the best produced CDs suffer from extreme compression. Analog sources will always be superior in terms of fidelity. However, what they lack is portability and ease of use, which is very important to me. I don't bother with LPs anymore because I like the convenience of digital formats, however, side by side, a well cared for LP on a good stereo will always sound better than any digitally mastered/recorded recording.

[Ivan Drago]

I love that man.

[Orange Claw Hammer]

He says "fucking" like that guy in Fargo that doesn't want to pay for the true coat.

Yes, it's almost exactly the same way, like he's forcing the expletive out of his mouth.

[EvilShoe]

This argument reminds of Baudrillard's idea that everything is a simulacrum in music. Even the cleanest, purest recording is still a recording, and different to the experience of sitting in the same room as the musicians. No amount of technology can actually make us "hear" a Beatles song. We are hearing merely reproductions of reproductions. Embrace it!
If this is Lynch's way of applying Baudrillard's philosophy, then he certainly picked one hell of an example for hyperreality replacing "real" reality.