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number8
09-10-2011, 06:13 PM
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Apparently he wrote it back in 2008 as part of an anthology but for some reason it's only gotten press recently because of a reprint.

I read this (http://www.raintaxi.com/online/2011summer/card.shtml) review of it, and it sounds terrible:


In this adaptation, Hamlet was never close to his father. The prince is unfazed and emotionally indifferent to the old king's death, feels no sense of betrayal when his mother speedily remarries, and thinks that Claudius will make a perfectly good monarch. Hamlet is also secure in his religious faith, with absolute and unshakable beliefs about the nature of death and the afterlife. He isn't particularly hung up on Ophelia, either. Throughout the novella, Prince Hamlet displays the emotional depth of a blank sheet of paper.

Card has completely removed the dramatic stakes and haunting questions posed by the play, and the threadbare result is a failure of narrative craft on every level. Only one question remains: Is the ghost of Hamlet's father really a ghost, or is it instead a demonic liar? (Both, as it turns out.) But most of the novella is filled with pedantic moralizing, made all the more bland by Hamlet's smug and uncomplicated certainty. "Some acts are always right," he insists. "And some are always wrong."

I always knew that Card's a homophobic piece of shit, but this is just bizarre:


Here's the punch line: Old King Hamlet was an inadequate king because he was gay, an evil person because he was gay, and, ultimately, a demonic and ghostly father of lies who convinces young Hamlet to exact imaginary revenge on innocent people. The old king was actually murdered by Horatio, in revenge for molesting him as a young boy—along with Laertes, and Rosencrantz, and Guildenstern, thereby turning all of them gay. We learn that Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are now "as fusty and peculiar as an old married couple. I pity the woman who tries to wed her way into that house."

Hamlet is damned for all the needless death he inflicts, and Dead Gay Dad will now do gay things to him for the rest of eternity: "Welcome to Hell, my beautiful son. At last we'll be together as I always longed for us to be."

Whaaaaa?

Thirdmango
09-10-2011, 06:42 PM
I came upon the same review a couple days ago. The thing to note is that the punch line stuff is the interpretation of the person writing the review and was never written by Card. I state that not because it's not true but because I know many people who have read that line and thought it was Card who wrote it. But yeah, the guy has always been very against homosexuality so having this come out is like people are beating a dead horse since I know many people who wouldn't buy Shadow Complex since it was based on a Card book and his views were insane back then. I remember people back in the early 2000s that posted similar things about how insane he was because of his views. I'm not saying he's not an insane person but what I am saying is this is the exact same kind of things he's been saying for 25 years so only getting wacky about it now seems strange.

Mysterious Dude
09-10-2011, 06:54 PM
Card is weirdly obsessed with homosexuality. I don't think it's healthy.

number8
09-10-2011, 07:15 PM
I'm not saying he's not an insane person but what I am saying is this is the exact same kind of things he's been saying for 25 years so only getting wacky about it now seems strange.

No, exactly, it's nothing new, and obviously whatever story he writes won't even compare to his real-life homophobic activism with NOM.

I just find this one particularly bizarre; that he decided to expand his bigoted viewpoint by rewriting Shakespeare.

Mysterious Dude
09-10-2011, 08:36 PM
The more I think about this, the more it sounds like gay fan fiction.


The old king was actually murdered by Horatio, in revenge for molesting him as a young boy—along with Laertes, and Rosencrantz, and Guildenstern, thereby turning all of them gay.
That's like half of the male characters.

Thirdmango
09-10-2011, 10:10 PM
I just find this one particularly bizarre; that he decided to expand his bigoted viewpoint by rewriting Shakespeare.

I gotcha. Funny thing is I think it has to do with growing up in the kind of environment I did where cleanflix was a very large part of the society, cleaning up R rated movies so that you could watch edited versions of movies and feel fine doing so. This is along those same lines, he wants to edit classic works to make them more digestible for people who don't want to read that kind of stuff. It's again insane but as far as the overwhelming Utah society it's still very much a "here we go again" type of story. I think more of my annoyance comes from lots of Utah people pointing this story out and having your same reaction versus someone like you who isn't used to this same old story. Where I have to ask them, "why are you surprised?" This is what this type of person has been doing for ages.

Winston*
09-11-2011, 12:16 AM
Ha. From OSC's wiki page.


Orson Scott Card (born August 24, 1951)[2] is an American author, critic, public speaker, essayist, columnist, homophobe, and political activist.