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Dukefrukem
11-02-2007, 01:18 PM
I can't believe they're making another...

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=38875

is anyone else pumped up as i am of this new?

Raiders
11-02-2007, 01:44 PM
I'm stoked because it is reported to be a "monster of the week" film instead of a conspiracy plot, and those were always my favorite episodes. If they manage something even remotely as awesome as series highlights like "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" or "Syzygy," then this will seriously be just about my favorite film from next year.

Dukefrukem
11-02-2007, 01:47 PM
I'm stoked because it is reported to be a "monster of the week" film instead of a conspiracy plot, and those were always my favorite episodes. If they manage something even remotely as awesome as series highlights like "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" or "Syzygy," then this will seriously be just about my favorite film from next year.

i think either direction they went there were bound to end up with something good. i'd prefer the conspiracy plot... i just like it more..

you think Duchovny was reluctant to come back?

Raiders
11-02-2007, 01:49 PM
i'd prefer the conspiracy plot... i just like it more..

You're just about the only person I know who thinks that. I suppose for a while it was almost as good as the stand alone episodes, but by the series' end it was just lame and ridiculous.

EvilShoe
11-02-2007, 02:39 PM
You're just about the only person I know who thinks that. I suppose for a while it was almost as good as the stand alone episodes, but by the series' end it was just lame and ridiculous.
There's also no way they could salvage it.
I somewhat hope the movie will take place after the series finale though, instead of being a "lost" case.

Saya
11-02-2007, 02:48 PM
I'm stoked because it is reported to be a "monster of the week" film instead of a conspiracy plot, and those were always my favorite episodes. If they manage something even remotely as awesome as series highlights like "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" or "Syzygy," then this will seriously be just about my favorite film from next year.

I agree, I would prefer a 'monster of the week' film too. If they decide to go with a conspiracy plot, I just hope it won't be too open ended and will have some kind of resolution.

But I'm also glad we'll be able to see Mulder and Scully back on the big screen. :D

The stand alone episodes of The X-Files were so awesome, especially from season three. Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose and Jose Chung's From Outer Space are definitely two of the best X-Files episodes ever.

MadMan
11-02-2007, 02:55 PM
Yeah the stand alone episodes were indeed the best aspect of the show. I like that the film is going with that instead of the vast big ass alien government conspiracy that got really annoying and lame by Season 8.

monolith94
11-02-2007, 03:10 PM
I think the most important aspect of the film won't be whether it's a "monster" ep. or a "conspiracy" ep. but rather if they can get the right cinematography to create the proper X-Files atmosphere. If they can creep me out, get me unsettled through the mood of the visuals of the film, I'll be happy.

Kurosawa Fan
11-02-2007, 03:25 PM
My wife read somewhere that it was going to continue from the end of the series. I hope it was incorrect.

Dukefrukem
11-02-2007, 03:34 PM
I think the most important aspect of the film won't be whether it's a "monster" ep. or a "conspiracy" ep. but rather if they can get the right cinematography to create the proper X-Files atmosphere. If they can creep me out, get me unsettled through the mood of the visuals of the film, I'll be happy.

this is my least concern

Raiders
11-02-2007, 03:58 PM
My wife read somewhere that it was going to continue from the end of the series. I hope it was incorrect.

Why? That just indicates chronology, not subject matter. It has also already been confirmed that it will be a strictly Mulder and Scully film.

Kurosawa Fan
11-02-2007, 04:00 PM
Why? That just indicates chronology, not subject matter. It has also already been confirmed that it will be a strictly Mulder and Scully film.

No, I meant that it will deal with the conspiracy. The film would start right where the series left off. She read me something about it once (at least I think it was her), and we were both disappointed by what we read.

Raiders
11-02-2007, 04:03 PM
No, I meant that it will deal with the conspiracy. The film would start right where the series left off. She read me something about it once (at least I think it was her), and we were both disappointed by what we read.

Hm. Duchovny himself indicated a couple months ago that it would NOT be a conspiracy film.

Kurosawa Fan
11-02-2007, 04:07 PM
Well, he's a better source than some random journalist. Here's hoping you're (and he's) right.

EvilShoe
11-02-2007, 04:10 PM
By the way: if Dogget and Reyes die in the opening, then this will seriously be just about my favorite film from next year.

D_Davis
11-02-2007, 04:35 PM
I would prefer a conspiracy movie, those were always my favorite episodes. As a matter of fact, those are the only DVDs I own, I was stoked when they finally released them in their own sets. Whenever a conspiracy episode was one, we all knew we were in for a treat, and we were rarely disappointed.

Dukefrukem
11-02-2007, 04:39 PM
I would prefer a conspiracy movie, those were always my favorite episodes. As a matter of fact, those are the only DVDs I own, I was stoked when they finally released them in their own sets. Whenever a conspiracy episode was one, we all knew we were in for a treat, and we were rarely disappointed.

sweet im not alone on this

Watashi
11-02-2007, 05:11 PM
Is Darren Morgan writing this?

Bosco B Thug
11-02-2007, 05:53 PM
Man I hope this is good. I hope they go all out horror film.

If this film is as scary as episodes like Our Town or Die Hand Die Vertletz or Home, this'll be awesome.

Another semi-cheeky alien-mythology movie would've been one too many.

chrisnu
11-02-2007, 06:28 PM
Wow. :)

I'm tentative about a script being written by Carter and Spotnitz. They really lost the plot near the end of the show's run. Maybe this long hiatus will get the creativity back.

MadMan
11-02-2007, 06:59 PM
I would prefer a conspiracy movie, those were always my favorite episodes. As a matter of fact, those are the only DVDs I own, I was stoked when they finally released them in their own sets. Whenever a conspiracy episode was one, we all knew we were in for a treat, and we were rarely disappointed.Don't get me wrong, most of the conspiracy stuff was good (at least until Season 7, but then things started going south after that season anyways). For the most part though I prefer the stand alone, weird single incidents stuff-like "Home," which scared and freaked the hell out of me. The best thing about the conspiracy stuff though was that the Cigarette Smoking Man was always involved, and he's my favorite character on the show.

Sycophant
11-02-2007, 08:10 PM
Count me as one who has always found roughly equal satisfaction in the monster-of-the-week and mythology episodes. That said, the conspiracy shtick started sucking in seasons eight and nine just like everything else, though still palatable.

That reminds me. I really need to pick up seasons 2 through 9. Maybe in time for the new movie.

At any rate, Duchovny and Anderson are back. They'll make anything watchable.

Yxklyx
11-03-2007, 05:14 AM
I liked the conspiracy episodes as much as the standalones for the first 6 seasons but towards the end it got too convoluted and nonsensical so I would really really prefer a standalone movie.

number8
11-03-2007, 08:06 AM
It's important to remember that this is going to be a HORROR flick.

Putting in all the conspiracy stuff would just be too thriller-ish. Chris Carter is directing it, and he wants it to be an old school creepy freaky X-Files story. Maybe they'll deal with some loose ends from the series just for fan service, but there's no doubt that this is gonna be a monster movie.

jenniferofthejungle
11-03-2007, 07:01 PM
It's important to remember that this is going to be a HORROR flick.

Putting in all the conspiracy stuff would just be too thriller-ish. Chris Carter is directing it, and he wants it to be an old school creepy freaky X-Files story. Maybe they'll deal with some loose ends from the series just for fan service, but there's no doubt that this is gonna be a monster movie.


That's happy news.

I loved the first and am excited for this one.

Mal
11-03-2007, 07:13 PM
Eh. What's the point.

Sycophant
11-03-2007, 10:13 PM
Okay, yeah. Horror is good.

Lasse
11-04-2007, 08:56 PM
By the way: if Dogget and Reyes die in the opening, then this will seriously be just about my favorite film from next year.

YES!

I'll admit that I haven't watched many episodes from the last two seasons, but I've seen and heard enough to know that it's a good thing.

Like number8 mentioned, I hope they'll tie some loose ends together, but otherwise, it should be a stand alone horror/sci-fi movie. It could still feature aliens, but please, not too much conspiracy stuff!

Katiescarlett
11-07-2007, 12:16 AM
No, I meant that it will deal with the conspiracy. The film would start right where the series left off. She read me something about it once (at least I think it was her), and we were both disappointed by what we read.


This isn't accurate. This movie could only disappoint me if they left David out. I am so excited about this!!!

ok, I guess it would be really disappointing if the Smoking Man came back and had long hair again.

MadMan
11-07-2007, 01:41 AM
This isn't accurate. This movie could only disappoint me if they left David out. I am so excited about this!!!

ok, I guess it would be really disappointing if the Smoking Man came back and had long hair again.That bastard came back when he was supposed to be dead at least twice. I wouldn't be surprised to see him alive again heh. Despite the whole explosion thing heh.

Sycophant
11-27-2007, 05:01 PM
Um, I just want to post this:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc275/thehousenextdoor/2007/Links%20for%20the%20Day/November%2027th%202007/xfiles.jpg

MadMan
11-27-2007, 05:54 PM
When going through Google looking for pics from the show to post in my Favorite TV Shows thread I noticed that pic Sycophant and I clicked on it just because I couldn't believe my eyes. I mean sure its official that Mulder and Scully are hot sexy lovers who make passionate love to one another but hey now its splashed all over the cover of the Rollin' Stone....

megladon8
11-27-2007, 05:56 PM
I remember that mag cover, Sycophant.

I also remember when Anderson was at an Awards show and said on stage "yes, I was completely topless for the shoot - my bare breasts were on his chest".

The audience cheered.

Morris Schæffer
11-27-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic, but sheesh. It's been so long since Fight the Future.

Grouchy
11-29-2007, 04:58 PM
When going through Google looking for pics from the show to post in my Favorite TV Shows thread I noticed that pic Sycophant and I clicked on it just because I couldn't believe my eyes. I mean sure its official that Mulder and Scully are hot sexy lovers who make passionate love to one another but hey now its splashed all over the cover of the Rollin' Stone....
Huh, that cover is at least over 10 years old. I remember it.

I can't wait. Fight the Future was the last kick-ass X-Files story. After it came out, the regular series definitively jumped the shark. A new "monster of the week" movie should be a good thing.

MadMan
11-29-2007, 07:59 PM
Huh, that cover is at least over 10 years old. I remember it.

I can't wait. Fight the Future was the last kick-ass X-Files story. After it came out, the regular series definitively jumped the shark. A new "monster of the week" movie should be a good thing.I knew it was an older issue, but I failed to notice the 1995 at the left top hand corner of the cover. Heh.

Yeah despite its many faults Fight the Future was a good film, and yes after that the show jumped the shark. Considering the show's downward spiral with Seasons 8 and 9 its a good thing Chris Carter decided to end the show. I'm surprised that FOX let Carter kill off one of its cash cows considering that The Simpsons has been run into the ground for years now.

Saya
12-06-2007, 06:25 PM
Amanda Peet, Billy Connolly and Xzibit have joined the cast.

Source (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i7c5caf365ab6a9b840d759971e0 f78fa)


The new "X-Files" movie will be packing more heat. Rapper Xzibit, Amanda Peet and Billy Connolly have signed on for director Chris Carter's next big-screen adaptation of the hit series for Fox.

Sources said Xzibit and Peet will play fellow FBI agents to David Duchovny's Mulder and Gillian Anderson's Scully in the supernatural thriller with a stand-alone story, not a sequel or continuation of the hit 1998 feature adaptation. Citing a policy of secrecy surrounding the plot line, Fox would not confirm any details regarding the three actors' roles.

Kurosawa Fan
12-06-2007, 06:27 PM
Love Connolly and Peet. Not so much Xzibit.

number8
12-06-2007, 06:45 PM
Love Connolly and Peet. Not so much Xzibit.

:lol:

MadMan
12-06-2007, 07:38 PM
Love Connolly and Peet. Not so much Xzibit.Xzibit as an agent? I actually want to see how that works out heh. The supporting cast sounds like good stuff regardless.


Sources said Xzibit and Peet will play fellow FBI agents to David Duchovny's Mulder and Gillian Anderson's Scully in the supernatural thriller with a stand-alone story, not a sequel or continuation of the hit 1998 feature adaptation. Citing a policy of secrecy surrounding the plot line, Fox would not confirm any details regarding the three actors' roles.That sounds cool to me. Besides the only thing I want to know in regards to the end of the show is what happened to Agent Skinner. Otherwise I don't mind that they're not even touching on what happened in the show. I think if this one does well though they'll go back to the storyline from the actual show.

Sven
12-06-2007, 07:58 PM
Love Connolly and Peet. Not so much Xzibit.

Do you really like Amanda Peet? What gives?

Kurosawa Fan
12-06-2007, 07:59 PM
Do you really like Amanda Peet? What gives?

I do. Always have. She's one of those actresses that I don't necessarily think excels at her craft (she's serviceable) but it's more her attitude and her looks that reel me in. I've always found her very attractive. I know she's far from popular, but I don't mind seeing her cast in films I'm anticipating.

Sven
12-06-2007, 08:07 PM
I do. Always have. She's one of those actresses that I don't necessarily think excels at her craft (she's serviceable) but it's more her attitude and her looks that reel me in. I've always found her very attractive. I know she's far from popular, but I don't mind seeing her cast in films I'm anticipating.

Hmmm...

Very strange. Because pretty much (and I speak honestly here... I cannot think of any other examples), she's, like, the only actress that physically repels me. And it's not her looks--I don't want to pull a meg and condemn an actress for her thinness. Sure, she's attractive enough. But I can not watch her act. It's like the definition of "amateurish" and why reputable filmmakers continue to cast her in decent projects is one of the very very few things that my mind continues to actively ponder. It's a mystery to me. I guess it's cool that people like her... I don't wanna be a hater. But I can't figure it out.

Kurosawa Fan
12-06-2007, 08:19 PM
Hmmm...

Very strange. Because pretty much (and I speak honestly here... I cannot think of any other examples), she's, like, the only actress that physically repels me. And it's not her looks--I don't want to pull a meg and condemn an actress for her thinness. Sure, she's attractive enough. But I can not watch her act. It's like the definition of "amateurish" and why reputable filmmakers continue to cast her in decent projects is one of the very very few things that my mind continues to actively ponder. It's a mystery to me. I guess it's cool that people like her... I don't wanna be a hater. But I can't figure it out.

I'm not sure there are that many people who do like her. Most I talk to seem to have your reaction (usually to a smaller degree). I don't see it. Again, I find her serviceable as far as most performances go, but there's something about her that clicks with me.

Raiders
12-06-2007, 08:24 PM
I'm ambivalent to Amanda Peet. I haven't really seen her in much, and she's attractive, but not enough so to make me really notice her above dozens of other actresses.

But, her being in this project already gives her a +1.

Winston*
12-06-2007, 08:37 PM
I see Amanda Peet on screen and I literally vomit, instantly and without fail. Vomited over a nice old couple in front of me during a screening of Melinda and Melinda, vomited over two ushers as they tried to escort my out of Syriana, ruined my carpet trying to watch Studio 60...for the good of the cinema patrons I may have to avoid this film.

Boner M
12-06-2007, 09:02 PM
I see Amanda Peet on screen and I literally vomit, instantly and without fail. Vomited over a nice old couple in front of me during a screening of Melinda and Melinda, vomited over two ushers as they tried to escort my out of Syriana, ruined my carpet trying to watch Studio 60...for the good of the cinema patrons I may have to avoid this film.
:lol:

Ezee E
12-06-2007, 11:38 PM
I'm pretty much meh on Peet.

number8
12-07-2007, 12:24 AM
I like Peet. I never paid much attention to her movies, but she won me over in Studio 60.

Sycophant
12-07-2007, 12:32 AM
I know I've seen her in things, but the overriding mental image I have is the cover for that strangely ubiquitous-a-couple-years-back DVD, Whipped. It's not a positive association.

Morris Schæffer
12-12-2007, 10:56 AM
first photo:

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/firstxfilessetphoto.jpg

Dukefrukem
12-12-2007, 12:04 PM
first photo:

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/firstxfilessetphoto.jpg


not coming up for some reason

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/firstxfilessetphoto.jpg

chrisnu
12-12-2007, 04:55 PM
It looks like comingsoon.net doesn't allow image hotlinking. Try copying-and-pasting this link into your browser:

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/firstxfilessetphoto.jpg

I still can barely believe this is actually happening.

I am a little concerned that there cannot be any script rewrites during shooting. I hope that the final product doesn't suffer because of this.

Grouchy
12-12-2007, 10:08 PM
I know I've seen her in things, but the overriding mental image I have is the cover for that strangely ubiquitous-a-couple-years-back DVD, Whipped. It's not a positive association.
Man, you're right. It was the DVD my dad rented to test the dvd player, too. I feel like I've seen that cover in every video store known to man, and I haven't even watched the damn thing.

http://www.impawards.com/2000/posters/whipped.jpg

number8
12-15-2007, 04:28 AM
HAWTTT.

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/photos/xfiles2/xfiles22.jpg

Dukefrukem
12-16-2007, 10:06 PM
that says FBI right?

[ETM]
12-16-2007, 10:19 PM
I know I've seen her in things, but the overriding mental image I have is the cover for that strangely ubiquitous-a-couple-years-back DVD, Whipped. It's not a positive association.

I'd post my own overriding mental image of her, but it's NSFW:

Sycophant
12-16-2007, 11:34 PM
;16968']I'd post my own overriding mental image of her, but it's NSFW:That colon is just too mean.

[ETM]
12-17-2007, 01:02 AM
That colon is just too mean.

http://img166.imagevenue.com/loc759/th_56894_peet_123_759lo.jpg (http://img166.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56894_peet_123_7 59lo.jpg)

MadMan
12-17-2007, 10:32 PM
;17009']http://img166.imagevenue.com/loc759/th_56894_peet_123_759lo.jpg (http://img166.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56894_peet_123_7 59lo.jpg)That was one of my favorite parts of The Whole Nine Yards. Yeah the film is funny and everything but some tits sure go a long way...

EvilShoe
01-17-2008, 07:37 AM
Yay!!!
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9218/xfilesnew2dw4.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9244/xfilesnewlc2.jpg


"We spent a lot of time on (the mythology) and wrapped up a lot of threads" when the show went off the air in 2002, says Chris Carter, creator of the series and director of the new movie. "We want a stand-alone movie, not a mythology conspiracy one."

Sycophant
01-17-2008, 08:17 AM
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue. + VEE

GROOVY.

Lasse
01-17-2008, 11:24 AM
Oh, Gillian, why must you be so rediculously hot? :pritch:

Dukefrukem
01-17-2008, 07:15 PM
Oh, Gillian, why must you be so rediculously hot? :pritch:

I love her. Such great casting for that show.

Grouchy
01-17-2008, 08:26 PM
Oh, Gillian, why must you be so rediculously hot? :pritch:
Word. She doesn't show any skin yet everytime she presses her lips together I drool like a chimpanzee.

MadMan
01-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Oh, Gillian, why must you be so rediculously hot? :pritch:Pretty much. My anticipation for this film has been raised even higher by the photos and the fact that years after the end of the show Gillian is still a sex goddess.

chrisnu
01-17-2008, 11:54 PM
Hooray! :)

I noticed their digs are different. Maybe they aren't working for the FBI any more?

Scully's hair needs to be more floofy. Just sayin'.

[ETM]
01-18-2008, 01:06 AM
I noticed their digs are different. Maybe they aren't working for the FBI any more?

I think these are simply promos, because that 2004-2005 Dell monitor doesn't really fit into the timeframe most often mentioned for the events in the film...

number8
01-18-2008, 01:11 AM
They're definitely FBI. One set pic showed Mulder wearing an FBI jacket.

Dukefrukem
01-18-2008, 02:26 PM
They're definitely FBI. One set pic showed Mulder wearing an FBI jacket.


HAWTTT.

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/photos/xfiles2/xfiles22.jpg



can't really read it. :P I do see an F tho.

Saya
02-24-2008, 12:47 PM
The X-Files 2 trailer from Wondercon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoJCtCUooKg

Warning, the quality is not all too good (it's a camera copy version). But you can still see what's going on.

Looks awesome btw...can't wait for this one.

Kurosawa Fan
02-24-2008, 12:50 PM
Awesome!

Saya
02-24-2008, 12:59 PM
The reactions of the crowd are great. :lol:

Morris Schæffer
02-24-2008, 03:32 PM
It may be another sequel, but this is why I love'em. The chance to reconnect with existing characters that we've come to know and love. And it helps that it's been so long since the last one. I'm hyped for this! Nonetheless, while that footage is totally encouraging, I still hope this will transcend a mere one-hour episode stretched to 100 minutes.

I was sort of reminded of that scene in The Thing From Another World(1951) when the scientists gather in a circle on the ice around the spacecraft.

chrisnu
02-24-2008, 04:39 PM
Hooray! :)

X-Files Wondercon Panel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INRwdPcUntg)

Bosco B Thug
02-24-2008, 11:58 PM
omgomgomgomgomgx1000.

Here's Ain't It Cool News' description of the panel (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35726). The trailer was cool and all, but what's really got me going (besides GA looking unabashedly smokin' - DD and CC not looking so bad themselves, either!) is Carter saying the film's gonna be trying to "scare the pants off" us. You hear that? Our pants!!! Absolutely teh sex.

chrisnu
02-25-2008, 06:05 AM
Complete panel footage! (http://weeklycomicbookreview.com/wondercon-2008/)

Bosco B Thug
02-25-2008, 06:10 AM
Complete panel footage! (http://weeklycomicbookreview.com/wondercon-2008/)
Awesome!!! Thank you!

Dukefrukem
02-25-2008, 07:02 PM
The X-Files 2 trailer from Wondercon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoJCtCUooKg

Warning, the quality is not all too good (it's a camera copy version). But you can still see what's going on.

Looks awesome btw...can't wait for this one.

man i got chills when everyone starting cheering. that was awesome.

MadMan
02-25-2008, 07:46 PM
The X-Files 2 trailer from Wondercon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoJCtCUooKg

Warning, the quality is not all too good (it's a camera copy version). But you can still see what's going on.

Looks awesome btw...can't wait for this one.Yeah that footage has me really pumped for this film. I can't wait to be able to see the official trailer online.

number8
02-25-2008, 08:15 PM
My hands hurt from clapping during that panel.

Dukefrukem
02-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Awesome!!! Thank you!

Wow Gillian looks great!

Dukefrukem
02-25-2008, 08:38 PM
wait was CC serious???

"Right Away" when asked if they were planing on making any movies after the this one?

Lasse
02-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Well, I have a boner. :pritch:

So that I can fuck all other movies!

And Gillian Anderson, if I'm lucky.

Bosco B Thug
03-28-2008, 05:16 AM
Bootleg video of an expanded teaser trailer shown at Paley Fest!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FeUtHxIWl1w

One shot in there reminded me of God Told Me To and I am liking how the footage and action stunts we have seen so far is rather practical and non-extravagant but still striking and very moody.

Watashi
03-28-2008, 07:22 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/XFiles2Poster.jpg

This teaser poster makes my pants happy.

Dukefrukem
03-28-2008, 12:26 PM
You sure thats not fan art? It looks too... chopped.

EvilShoe
03-28-2008, 02:50 PM
This thread needs more Dogget and Reyes bashing.

number8
03-28-2008, 04:47 PM
You sure thats not fan art? It looks too... chopped.

http://xfiles.com/

Raiders
03-28-2008, 04:50 PM
This thread needs more Dogget and Reyes bashing.

Who?

MadMan
03-28-2008, 06:07 PM
Who?This is the correct response. Seasons 8 and 9 don't exist. They were actually wacked out fan fiction created by a cracked out X-Files fanboy.

EvilShoe
03-28-2008, 06:14 PM
I do hope Skinner makes an appearance in the movie.
Or the Lone Gunmen.

As Madman has already stated: the episode you're thinking of does not exist.

MadMan
03-28-2008, 06:34 PM
I do hope Skinner makes an appearance in the movie.
Or the Lone Gunmen.

As Madman has already stated: the episode you're thinking of does not exist.That would be really cool. As much as I like Cancer Man (he's my favorite character on the show) he be highly out of place here as this isn't a conspiracy episode. Granted there was a few times where he appeared in an episode that didn't have anything to do with the main conspiracy storyline. But even then in those episodes (such as the one where these bugs are transmitting a deadily virus) a conspiracy of sorts is taking place.

Dukefrukem
03-28-2008, 07:58 PM
This is the correct response. Seasons 8 and 9 don't exist. They were actually wacked out fan fiction created by a cracked out X-Files fanboy.

Oh man if only that were true!!

Lasse
03-28-2008, 10:46 PM
That poster made my day.

That's all I need to say. :pritch:

[ETM]
03-29-2008, 12:33 AM
Reyes was hot. I'll rest at that.

Poster kicks arse.

Sycophant
03-29-2008, 01:02 AM
;50886']Reyes was hot.
Agreed. But I'll go further and say that while seasons 8 and 9 were, yes, much, much weaker, I didn't find them to be the complete poison so many seem to consider them to be.

MadMan
03-29-2008, 04:10 AM
Agreed. But I'll go further and say that while seasons 8 and 9 were, yes, much, much weaker, I didn't find them to be the complete poison so many seem to consider them to be.I found them to range from being decent (that happened only a few times) to medicre to utterly terrible. I do plan on seeing the entire series all the way through eventually although TV reruns so far have prevented me from doing so.

chrisnu
03-30-2008, 08:53 AM
There are some stand-alone episodes in Seasons 8 and 9 that are decent, and some even good, but they are few and far between. Mostly, we have Jesus slugs and butt genies.

It's the "mythology" which make Seasons 8 and 9 cancer. They completely assassinate the characters of Mulder and Scully. They make them out to be whining, cowardly bitches, who also happen to be numbskulls, which they weren't. Still trying to forgot the bleating alien goat babies and "William" and Scully crying all the time, and being a complete idiot.

Morris Schæffer
03-30-2008, 09:47 AM
Any word on when the official trailer will debut?

MadMan
03-31-2008, 05:15 AM
There are some stand-alone episodes in Seasons 8 and 9 that are decent, and some even good, but they are few and far between. Mostly, we have Jesus slugs and butt genies.

It's the "mythology" which make Seasons 8 and 9 cancer. They completely assassinate the characters of Mulder and Scully. They make them out to be whining, cowardly bitches, who also happen to be numbskulls, which they weren't. Still trying to forgot the bleating alien goat babies and "William" and Scully crying all the time, and being a complete idiot.What also pissed me off was how they killed off Cancer Man. He deserved better than that. Although considering how many times they already previously "killed him off" (him getting shot, him getting thrown down the stairs) I wouldn't be surprised if he's still somehow around.

Stay Puft
03-31-2008, 05:22 AM
What also pissed me off was how they killed off Cancer Man. He deserved better than that. Although considering how many times they already previously "killed him off" (him getting shot, him getting thrown down the stairs) I wouldn't be surprised if he's still somehow around.

They were beating a dead horse at that point. I love how they took the care to show his flesh searing off his bone and everything, which is really just an implicit acknowledgment that they fucked the whole thing up a long time ago. The whole thing was a joke. Good riddance to all of that.

The Well-Manicured Man was always cooler, because he knew how to die.

MadMan
03-31-2008, 05:36 AM
They were beating a dead horse at that point. I love how they took the care to show his flesh searing off his bone and everything, which is really just an implicit acknowledgment that they fucked the whole thing up a long time ago. The whole thing was a joke. Good riddance to all of that.

The Well-Manicured Man was always cooler, because he knew how to die.Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that whole aspect.

Who the hell was the WMM again? I need a memory refresher. Also I wish the show had never killed off X. He was super cool.

Stay Puft
03-31-2008, 05:55 AM
Who the hell was the WMM again? I need a memory refresher.

http://www.thexfiles-tr.net/images/cast/cast_wmm.jpg

He died in the movie, in the car bomb, after talking to Mulder.


Also I wish the show had never killed off X. He was super cool.

Yeah, X was great. The relative brevity of his character's life certainly helps, though, just as it did with Deep Throat. They're interesting, enigmatic characters who serve their purpose and then get the hell out.

Too many characters got screwed by the simple length of the series, and the debacle of the last couple seasons, as discussed on the last page. Another character I always felt got screwed was Alex Krycek. I thought he was an awesome character, but the series took him in progressively less interesting directions until finally giving him a lousy death scene in the eighth season.

chrisnu
03-31-2008, 06:27 AM
Too many characters got screwed by the simple length of the series, and the debacle of the last couple seasons, as discussed on the last page. Another character I always felt got screwed was Alex Krycek. I thought he was an awesome character, but the series took him in progressively less interesting directions until finally giving him a lousy death scene in the eighth season.
Agreed. I thought the nanobots in "S.R. 819" were a nice addition to the series, and to Krycek's character, but he became nothing more than a spout for nonsensical exposition, and his exit, like many others, were mis-handled.

I also thought it was absolutely ridiculous that they spoiled his death in the animated menus on the Season 8 DVD set. Spoilers! :lol:

Dukefrukem
03-31-2008, 11:42 AM
The Well-Manicured Man was always cooler, because he knew how to die.

When he died in the first movie. I was shocked. We're all talking as if we knew this happened right? I don't need to spoiler that?

MadMan
03-31-2008, 05:00 PM
http://www.thexfiles-tr.net/images/cast/cast_wmm.jpg

He died in the movie, in the car bomb, after talking to Mulder.Oh shit, that dude! He was pretty awesome, and in some ways he was far cooler than X or Cancer Man.


Yeah, X was great. The relative brevity of his character's life certainly helps, though, just as it did with Deep Throat. They're interesting, enigmatic characters who serve their purpose and then get the hell out.Yeah that is true, and thanks to Deep Throat Mulder's quest was really able to jump start itself. I recently saw the episode where he had his demise, and I'm sure that the guy who actually is Deep Throat was thinking at the time "Hey I just got killed off on the X-Files! And they had me doing cool things like shoot aliens! :lol:


Too many characters got screwed by the simple length of the series, and the debacle of the last couple seasons, as discussed on the last page. Another character I always felt got screwed was Alex Krycek. I thought he was an awesome character, but the series took him in progressively less interesting directions until finally giving him a lousy death scene in the eighth season.Krycek was a fairly interesting and somewhat complex character. His bastard, double crossing nature provided many good moments in the series. However I agree that his end was really stupid. Come on, Skinner just shoots him? Why the hell would Skinner do that? He was tired of the guy's shit or something? It was out of character for Skinner. Now if say Mulder had killed him or he would have been done in by a government hitman, that I would have accepted.

BTW I just remembered another thing that pissed me off about the last two seasons: the killing off of the Lone Gunman. That was dumb.

EvilShoe
03-31-2008, 06:05 PM
BTW I just remembered another thing that pissed me off about the last two seasons: the killing off of the Lone Gunman. That was dumb.
Again:

I do hope Skinner makes an appearance in the movie.
Or the Lone Gunmen.

As Madman has already stated: the episode you're thinking of does not exist.

MadMan
04-01-2008, 12:08 AM
Again:Sometimes I ignore my own words.

number8
04-16-2008, 11:33 PM
The X-Files: I Want to Believe.

Bosco B Thug
04-17-2008, 12:03 AM
The X-Files: I Want to Believe.
Eh, I'm not crazy about the two 'X-Files' films insistence on over-emphatic, imperative slogan-like titles. But I don't mind them, either, at least they're being consistent.

Gillian Anderson has a featured article in Maxim. She says the movie will be "gruesome and scary"!

Aaaaannnnd...

http://gilliananderson.ws/albums/Maxim/maxim1.sized.jpg

chrisnu
04-17-2008, 05:24 AM
I don't mind the title. It appears that a trailer will be attached to Iron Man!

New picture:

http://us.ent3.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/ent/ap/20080416/nyet110_film_the_x-files_title.sff.jpg

Lasse
04-17-2008, 10:09 AM
Eh, that's an alright title. Better than Quantum of Solace anyway.

And Gillian...
I don't want anybody else
When I think about you I touch myself
Ooh I don't want anybody else
Oh no, oh no, oh no

[ETM]
04-17-2008, 01:33 PM
Let's not hold back the Gillian Anderson pics:
http://img224.imagevenue.com/loc214/th_36341_frh_920080_images_404 6_161925_loc_123_214lo.jpg (http://img224.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36341_frh_920080 _images_4046_161925_loc_123_21 4lo.jpg) http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc1157/th_36128_frh_920082_images_704 4_161925_loc_123_1157lo.jpg (http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36128_frh_920082 _images_7044_161925_loc_123_11 57lo.jpg) http://img194.imagevenue.com/loc243/th_36427_frh_920089_images_204 3_161925_loc_123_243lo.jpg (http://img194.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36427_frh_920089 _images_2043_161925_loc_123_24 3lo.jpg)http://img206.imagevenue.com/loc257/th_36348_frh_420086_images_704 4_161925_loc_123_257lo.jpg (http://img206.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36348_frh_420086 _images_7044_161925_loc_123_25 7lo.jpg) http://img220.imagevenue.com/loc106/th_36430_frh_220080_images_404 4_161925_loc_123_106lo.jpg (http://img220.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36430_frh_220080 _images_4044_161925_loc_123_10 6lo.jpg)

MadMan
04-17-2008, 07:55 PM
The quote in that last pic ETM posted is awesome and funny.

As for the title, I don't care what's it called. I just want the film to come out ASAP.

Dukefrukem
04-17-2008, 08:05 PM
she loooks great! Think David banger her?

EvilShoe
04-18-2008, 02:55 PM
Supposedly the movie's plot has leaked due to a novel tie-in.
Those who want to know should go here:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=44225

Personally I'm hoping to avoid this info till I see the movie.

Kurosawa Fan
04-18-2008, 03:18 PM
I skimmed it.

Bring it on. :cool:

Lasse
05-07-2008, 07:34 PM
Fake or not?

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/posters/xfiles2/xfiles22_large.jpg

megladon8
05-07-2008, 07:37 PM
I didn't follow the show for several seasons before the end, and my memory's a little fuzzy with regards to the first film, but...

Wasn't Mulder actually abducted? I thought that was the explanation for his being gone in the latter seasons.

So will this film explain how he came back? Or did I miss something?

Raiders
05-07-2008, 07:40 PM
I didn't follow the show for several seasons before the end, and my memory's a little fuzzy with regards to the first film, but...

Wasn't Mulder actually abducted? I thought that was the explanation for his being gone in the latter seasons.

So will this film explain how he came back? Or did I miss something?

He came back/was returned in the eighth season. He was on sporadically over the final two seasons.

megladon8
05-07-2008, 07:42 PM
He came back/was returned in the eighth season. He was on sporadically over the final two seasons.


Oh, OK.

So, then, why is there still a question as to whether or not aliens exist?

If he was abducted, then obviously...?

Raiders
05-07-2008, 07:44 PM
Oh, OK.

So, then, why is there still a question as to whether or not aliens exist?

If he was abducted, then obviously...?

Well, it wasn't actually a question for many years on the show. The real question was how much we knew about them, the government conspiracy(ies) that involved the aliens, their plans for the human race, and so on. The real problem was that nobody else believed they existed. Mulder, and then Scully, do and know they do.

megladon8
05-07-2008, 07:50 PM
Well, it wasn't actually a question for many years on the show. The real question was how much we knew about them, the government conspiracy(ies) that involved the aliens, their plans for the human race, and so on. The real problem was that nobody else believed they existed. Mulder, and then Scully, do and know they do.


Ah, OK.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm such a caveman when it comes to television.

Raiders
05-07-2008, 07:54 PM
Ah, OK.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm such a caveman when it comes to television.

I think it is also worth mentioning that Mulder's "I Want to Believe" slogan and attitude had to do with more than just aliens. Practically every episode was him fighting against disbelief for his answers into the paranormal. The show included a broader scope than just aliens and based on all the reports I have read, this film is more paranormal/monster-ish than alien-centered.

number8
05-07-2008, 09:43 PM
I like Chris Carter's explanation that the show was really about finding God. It's the ultimate realization that something unexplainable is out there and it's human nature to try and make sense of it--and perhaps even control it. The whole 2012 colonization thing is kind of related to that. I've always found it curious that Mulder's slogan is not "I believe" but "I want to believe." He's searching for answers and he keeps an open mind, but he still sees himself as a fact-finder and not a "believer."

number8
05-11-2008, 08:26 AM
"I miss the way she says my name." (http://www.justpressplay.net/viewarticle/video-interviewing-mulder-and-scully/)

Bosco B Thug
05-11-2008, 06:12 PM
"I miss the way she says my name." (http://www.justpressplay.net/viewarticle/video-interviewing-mulder-and-scully/)
Hahaha, weird. They're really trying to rekindle the emotional involvement of the fanbase. Chris Carter always seems to want to emphasize that the film will provide new dramatic developments for fans. That's all well and good, but hopefully there's a freaky monster involved, too.

chrisnu
05-12-2008, 04:30 AM
Hahaha, weird. They're really trying to rekindle the emotional involvement of the fanbase. Chris Carter always seems to want to emphasize that the film will provide new dramatic developments for fans. That's all well and good, but hopefully there's a freaky monster involved, too.
I agree with that. The emotional moments between Mulder and Scully are good, but you have to have the framework of a good story around them. Otherwise, it almost feels like those moments aren't earned.

Watashi
05-12-2008, 12:21 PM
Trailer (http://uk.movies.ign.com/dor/objects/379767/the-x-files-i-want-to-believe/videos/xfilestrailer_050908.html)

It's identical the bootleg version before.

Dukefrukem
05-12-2008, 12:26 PM
Trailer (http://uk.movies.ign.com/dor/objects/379767/the-x-files-i-want-to-believe/videos/xfilestrailer_050908.html)

It's identical the bootleg version before.

damn it you beat me to it!

edit: does anyone have any idea what this movie is about?

some crazy looking guy is screaming "it's here!"....some girl is buried under the ice?

Dukefrukem
05-12-2008, 12:32 PM
also after the teaser there's an interview with CC, and he says;

"if we're successful here, there could be another x-file movie..."

that'd be awesome.

Lasse
05-12-2008, 03:35 PM
I really can't wait for July 25th.

Stay Puft
06-11-2008, 03:21 AM
New trailer:

http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/X-Files-I-Want-to-Believe/1809953361/trailers/140

Kurosawa Fan
06-11-2008, 04:05 AM
I can't wait. :cool:

Lasse
06-11-2008, 11:54 AM
I really can't wait for July 25th.

This. Emphatically.

chrisnu
06-15-2008, 06:34 AM
That trailer was much better than the first. I'm really looking forward to it.

Dukefrukem
06-16-2008, 01:28 PM
That trailer was much better than the first. I'm really looking forward to it.

agreed. and it also explains a bit more.

Saya
06-16-2008, 07:37 PM
I think I will watch some classic X-Files MOTW episodes to prepare for this movie. Anyone got some recommendations?

- Ice
- Beyond the Sea
- Jose Chung's From Outer Space
- Home
- Small Potatoes
- Tooms
- The one with the parasite in the sewers, can't remember the name :lol:

Dukefrukem
06-16-2008, 07:47 PM
I think I will watch some classic X-Files MOTW episodes to prepare for this movie. Anyone got some recommendations?

- Ice
- Beyond the Sea
- Jose Chung's From Outer Space
- Home
- Small Potatoes
- Tooms
- The one with the parasite in the sewers, can't remember the name :lol:

Jose Chung's From Outer Space is my second favorite episode... it's so well written is gives me goosebumps.

My all time favorite is; Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose... to this day there is still mystery behind is final response... we are dying to know. Peter Boyle is tremendous and i think he won a golden globe for that 1 episode.

chrisnu
06-17-2008, 01:49 AM
MOTW recommendations:

Irresistible
Humbug
Grotesque
Leonard Betts
Milagro

Saya
06-17-2008, 01:49 PM
MOTW recommendations:

Irresistible
Humbug
Grotesque
Leonard Betts
Milagro

Totally forgot about that freaky circus episode. I love that one.

I ended up watching two episodes from disc 2 of the first season last night. Ice was fantastic and for some reason I remembered Jersey Devil as a terrible episode, but it was ok. The mystery of the Jersey Devils was kind of silly, but still entertaining. Can't believe this show is already 15 years old.

Lasse
07-08-2008, 09:23 PM
Two new spots from comingsoon.net

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=46677

EDIT: I'm rediculously exited.

EDIT-EDIT: Let's call them semi-new. I didn't notice much new stuff.

Bosco B Thug
07-08-2008, 10:02 PM
leaping shadow monster or random jaguar attack? Amanda Peet possessed or does she just have really alluring blue eyes? Alien blue lights or MOTW blue lights?

I have no idea what to expect from this. Hopefully it won't pull a The Village. That leaping shadow was pretty cool.

Lasse
07-08-2008, 10:06 PM
leaping shadow monster or random jaguar attack? Amanda Peet possessed or does she just have really alluring blue eyes? Alien blue lights or MOTW blue lights?

Ok, fair enough. I was on the phone while I was watching the spots. :lol:

Bosco B Thug
07-08-2008, 10:12 PM
Ok, fair enough. I was on the phone while I was watching the spots. :lol: Oh, heh, didn't mean those to be a comment upon your "Didn't notice anything new" remark. My bad. I was just really confused!

D_Davis
07-08-2008, 10:26 PM
I am ridiculously excited for this movie.

Lasse
07-08-2008, 10:36 PM
I'm rediculously exited.


I am ridiculously excited for this movie.

At last we can agree on that. :lol:

D_Davis
07-08-2008, 10:40 PM
At last we can agree on that. :lol:

Ha!

I'll probably go to a midnight showing - haven't done that in a long, long time.

Yuzna's Cufflinks
07-15-2008, 05:52 AM
SO pumped.

I just gave Fight the Future a watch last night for the first time in about 8 years.

God love this show.

Ivan Drago
07-21-2008, 08:14 PM
Wow, it's been 6 years since the last episode aired, but it's good to see people still care. I might see this but I think I should see Fight To The Future beforehand.

Also, forgive me if I'm being vague, but from what I remember, there was an episode of The X-Files that ended with a shot of a still-beating heart sitting on a table...there might have even been a sequence where a guy pulls Scully's heart out but I'm not sure...does anyone know what I'm talking about? Again, apologies if I'm being vague.

Dukefrukem
07-21-2008, 08:16 PM
doesn't ring a bell and i watched every episode of every season.. im sure i just forgot...

Ivan Drago
07-21-2008, 08:21 PM
doesn't ring a bell and i watched every episode of every season.. im sure i just forgot...

Yeah I just found it - Milagro. Thanks though.

Sycophant
07-21-2008, 10:02 PM
Holy crap. This comes out Friday. That's soon!

Looking forward to it.

Bosco B Thug
07-21-2008, 10:08 PM
*sigh* It's getting negative early reviews, though. :cry:

Still seeing it Friday, with a desperately hopeful attitude.

Raiders
07-21-2008, 10:30 PM
*sigh* It's getting negative early reviews, though. :cry:

Where? I can't find much of anything on reviews yet.

chrisnu
07-21-2008, 10:33 PM
Yeah I just found it - Milagro. Thanks though.
That's one of my all-time favorite episodes. John Hawkes is great in it.

Bosco B Thug
07-21-2008, 10:50 PM
Where? I can't find much of anything on reviews yet.

On RT, there's two reviews, one negative, one positive. Then there's a very very scathing review on Aint it Cool news. Have only skimmed them. Be careful if you like being spoiler-free, even from the first paragraph, with the Aint It Cool one, goes without saying. I already know an integral twist that's going to end up in the film due to that.


Yeah, none seemingly with any liberal cinematic eye in critical discernment to really gage if the film has some striking merits or fails completely with misguided drama (yes yes, I'm setting myself up in advance for some personal expected flaws... a bad practice, can't help it), but still disappointing this won't be the unanimously praised success I wanted it to be.

MadMan
07-23-2008, 03:14 AM
I still think it will be as decent as the first film was. Also every time Xzibit shows up in the previews I'm greatly amused.

Bosco B Thug
07-26-2008, 06:22 PM
* It is like an episode of the show, stretched to two hours. It's both a bad thing and a good thing. Good because the film is refreshingly unlike a formula movie. The dialogue is refreshingly intimate and real, intelligent yet markedly casual, with a spontaneity and liveliness that you don't see in most movies because most movies are too busy trying to establish characters and fit them in almost ascetic pre-conceptions of the grand "role" they play and what they can and can't say. This film is not afraid to have its characters say silly things and say what's on their mind in a way that's kinda messy and thus kinda genuine (e.g. "That's okay, Scully. I'm okay with that!"; the whole "Wow, I can't believe he/she admitted that!" confrontation between Scully and Father Joe). I must say, Father Joe and Dakota Whitney are great characters and the parts they play in the story are surprisingly affecting. Whitney, in particular, is a striking compounding of everything the series has had to say about the dignity, bravery, and risk of being an FBI agent.

* I've sensed a general dismissal of Chris Carter as a director. I'm not buying it, completely anyway. The film is superbly well-crafted, and while he does fall victim to the sort of gawky formlessness of TV show directing, there are sustained scenes here that are incredibly well done (the 2nd abduction scene - very nice!). And even when not working with a set piece, Carter achieves striking texture, detail, and visceral/sensoral expressivity with his camera. This is a better, more finely crafted film than Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight.

Let's take two scenes - say, the first few moments of Scully and Mulder's bedroom scene and the moment in the secret laboratory when the woman caged in the box suddenly "feels" the wheeling of herself away, likely to her doom - pack more superbly precise and sensitive cinematic craft than anything I can recall from The Dark Knight. And Carter's swervy, orbit-forming camera is perfect for charging this admittingly talky film with the dramatic electricity necessary to work.

* The film is a risky undertaking from all angles, and you can't help but admire it. The story is low-key, there's little action (luckily the film cruises on its haunting, very 'X-Files'-like creepy atmosphere), and it takes issues that could've easily, in another film, been cookie-cutter and conservatively judged good or bad within the story (religion, stem cell research, pedophilia, homosexuality, FBI politics, Scully's weaknesses e.g. her almost-selfish yearning for wholesomeness) and either treats them matter-of-factly or weaves them into the film's themes on neuroses, trauma, weaknesses and "impulses," and the therapy of "wanting to believe."

* Now you ask: Despite all that good stuff bubbling beneath the surface of the film thematically, and despite it being a better directed film than The Dark Knight, why on earth did I give it the same score as that movie and then choose to mark them both down by .5? Well, while The Dark Knight lacks the dramatic detail of this film and treats its themes and provocations with a much much more cookie-cutter approach, it develops and follows through with its themes with conviction, even if it means pushing Batman (and the franchise) to the background. I liked that about The Dark Knight - it left Batman alone because it had to finish off what it had to say about Gotham, the Joker, Two-Face. The X-Files: IWTB is all about M & S. Thematic closure is left to Mulder and Scully elucidating on their emotional states and their relationship. The capper dealing with Scully's medical subplot was good, but it's not enough.

We should've learnt more about the villains and the case.

"They're Russian scientists!" being all we know about them is a woeful, woeful underdevelopment. The film makes no attempt to elaborate thematically on the black market and these undeground medical experimenting.

The nature of the villains had zero play in the grand thematics of the film and thus becomes one of the film's chief flaws. Things are suggested, and muuuch can be made out of

the (rather daring and thoughtful) decision to make the abducting team an allegedly homosexual couple, as well as one of them a past victim of Father Joe's abuse... but it would all be conjecture because the film doesn't explain anything!

The backstory of the two abducters itself would have been chock full of thematic considerations: What are the considerations to be made to them in light of the factors they are assumed to be acting under: childhood trauma, love, self-suffering?

The fact that the film doesn't feel the need to flesh this out reveals the film lacks the conviction to tie all its threads back to its themes like The Dark Knight does.

Instead it just wants to please X-Philes with Mulder and Scully and drops the ball as a satisfying film thematically.

That said, the emotional developments it makes with the characters of Mulder and Scully are fantastic. The way their relationship in this film so matter-of-factly summarizes their dynamic throughout the show (to put it most simply, Mulder = crusader, Scully = lacks his conviction but really pulls through in the end) without sacrificing wit to achieve gravity (Mulder's "I'm trying to ignore you" line) - instead achieving them simultaneously - is reason enough for a fan to be glad this movie was made.

D_Davis
07-26-2008, 10:05 PM
I bought the first season on DVD this morning, and I started watching it. It is still really good. I was afraid that maybe it wouldn't stand the test of time, but it's actually a really well made program. I always liked the subtle sense of humor.

Dukefrukem
07-27-2008, 10:33 PM
I saw this movie today and was very disappointed. It doesn't feel like an episode of the show at all. It was slow, uneventful and not mysterious at all. Mulder barely plays as a professional consultant, doesn't provide any input from past X-file cases related to the event and isn't even the hero in the film... Amanda Peet is also an AWFUL FBI agent.

Stay Puft
07-28-2008, 10:27 PM
Disappointing is one word. Entirely not what I expected is a phrase.

Anyways, I certainly found it interesting as a long time fan. Lots of great thoughts from Bosco - you articulated much of what I felt during the film and I only have a bit to add.

Totally agreed on the focus. Fight the Future was more plot oriented and much broader in scope, although at the end of the day neither of these are terribly cinematic and do feel more like long episodes. Which is again not to say their respective directors were slouches - there are plenty of well constructed scenes and great shots. I simply find it interesting that I Want to Believe went in the opposite direction of Fight the Future, and was more introspective and character driven. This has it benefits, as Bosco articulated.

So, totally agreed about the mystery plot itself. Underdeveloped and unsatisfying. There is good material, plenty of it, and as Raiders said in the FDT this could be a great standalone episode. It does get kind of cool and freaky towards the end. But as this plot functions in the film, Raiders said it was disposable, and Bosco said the nature of the villains had "zero play in the grand thematics." I wouldn't call it disposable, although I think Bosco may have it right. The mystery does function as a parallel plot, with our sinister Russians engaging in experimental and dangerous procedures to save a life, much as Scully does to save her patient, experimental and dangerous being two words thrown around a lot during the film. On the other hand, you have Father Joe providing the paranormal angle, with a potential religious twist, and Mulder who tags along for no other reason than he wants to believe. It all fits together very nicely, I think, in terms of its religion vs. science theme, but the mystery plot ends up being put in service of Mulder and Scully's character development and conflict, as opposed to functioning in a more reciprocal kind of development. As Bosco says, we end up knowing little, and our sinister Russian friends are simply pushed to side and dealt with as obligatory antagonists are wont to be.

Maybe that plot is just a victim of fan service. There is plenty of explicit pandering, particularly in the beginning, and crap like the Bush joke is lame. A lot of little things like that I just found irritating. The mystery itself is also not entirely what I expected, again being constructed in parallel to thematic concerns, and not actually being terribly paranormal. I don't know, maybe I was just expecting werewolves after all. But then I also found it surprising and appreciated how thoughtful it was in terms of developing overarching themes from the show and building on Mulder and Scully's relationship. I don't know. More thoughts later, maybe. I'm still working through it. I'd probably rate it a 6/10 myself at the moment.

Bosco B Thug
07-29-2008, 12:43 AM
I wouldn't call it disposable, although I think Bosco may have it right. The mystery does function as a parallel plot, with our sinister Russians engaging in experimental and dangerous procedures to save a life, much as Scully does to save her patient, experimental and dangerous being two words thrown around a lot during the film. On the other hand, you have Father Joe providing the paranormal angle, with a potential religious twist, and Mulder who tags along for no other reason than he wants to believe. It all fits together very nicely, I think, in terms of its religion vs. science theme, but the mystery plot ends up being put in service of Mulder and Scully's character development and conflict, as opposed to functioning in a more reciprocal kind of development. As Bosco says, we end up knowing little, and our sinister Russian friends are simply pushed to side and dealt with as obligatory antagonists are wont to be. Yeah, there are parallels that do come together really nicely at the end, especially with the nicely done final scene (which Raiders set apart in his comments); makes me want to embrace the film more.

Glad this film isn't being entirely dismissed by fans of the TV show here. Besides non-PC characters and not having any explosions, I grinned when Scully began spouting overly obscure medical babble early in the film, typical for the TV show but so incongruous in the movie theater.

For the record, who stuck around for the end credits treat? Got me going with a big, appreciative smile.

Dukefrukem
07-29-2008, 02:20 AM
For the record, who stuck around for the end credits treat? Got me going with a big, appreciative smile.

What was it?

Stay Puft
07-29-2008, 02:35 AM
What was it?

Mulder and Scully chillaxin' in a boat, waving to the camera. It was cute.

Which also reminds me, I liked the Unkle remix of the theme. A fairly colorful, so to speak, closing credits sequence, as it takes us from the cold, snow filled landscape of the film into a warm, sun drenched landscape for a final parting shot.

Bosco B Thug
07-29-2008, 02:52 AM
Which also reminds me, I liked the Unkle remix of the theme. A fairly colorful, so to speak, closing credits sequence, as it takes us from the cold, snow filled landscape of the film into a warm, sun drenched landscape for a final parting shot. Ch'yah, agreed, those were some sexy end credits.

Dukefrukem
08-05-2008, 05:37 AM
So I gues this is considered a failure now...

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=xfiles2.htm

17 mil total gross with a 30 mil budget? so long third film. :(

Bosco B Thug
08-18-2008, 06:42 AM
Saw this again. I think it has really gone unappreciated for being so startlingly layered and mature in its content and approach to its content. The film is daring, pander-free, and achingly matter-of-fact.

It's a very hopeful ode to M&S, our brave crusaders, making themselves willing to "look into" the most despicable or scary types of "darkness" and come to an open-minded understanding of it, with the hope-against-hope to find progress/progressiveness (whether in an investigation, or in treatments for terminal disease, or as just a contribution to personal enlightenment or general emotional "goodness" in the world) in one's liberal-mindedness.

Father Joe's role both: 1) saves lives/is redemption and 2) is cruel, deserved punishment.

Dakota Whitney's role both 1) saves lives/is courageous for calling in M&S despite the bureaucratic nature of the FBI and 2) is fatal sacrifice.

The terminally ill boy's role: 1) literally saves Mulder's life by bringing Scully to Father Joe and 2) leads to an unguaranteed prolonging of his suffering.

All these considerations point to the riskiness but ultimate hopefulness of "going against the grain," or "facing the"/"owning up to your" darkness. Some go about it the wrong way - kidnapping innocents, for example - but it's hopefulness and self-sacrifice nevertheless.

Something else I loved is there are no "Evil Evil" villains or creatures in the film. Even the faceless Russian doctors and nurses are just kind of stupid-faced and irresponsible. Even the vicious two-headed dog, we end up seeing the thing whimpering on the ground after its "other half" is killed.

So objectively, surely, the film is simply a brilliantly written and structured, competent, cinematically detailed offering, and deserves some recognition. Too bad about the franchise ties that could concievably have elevated the film's dramatic "fullness" for me, being a fan of the show, while if I were not a fan, I'd be unsatisfied. I'm having a hard time figuring if I'd feel as strongly about the film if I weren't a fan.

It can happily fill the “Brave, insidiously liberal-minded genre effort” slot for ’08 that Joshua filled for ’07, and this film is actually a good deal less broad and uneven as that film.

Dead & Messed Up
08-25-2008, 04:20 AM
I just saw this and I thought it was mostly a good time. What irritated me was the lack of a climax.

Mulder arrives, Scully arrives, the one guy is knocked out, then Scully puts on some gloves.

Underwhelming to say the least. But the film also takes some of the best elements of the series: an understated stylishness, characters who are adult and act that way, a mystery with clear moral implications on all sides. What's funny is how it was gradually taken for granted on television, but seeing it now in theaters reminds me of how childish most current releases are.

Grouchy
08-25-2008, 06:02 PM
Underwhelming to say the least. But the film also takes some of the best elements of the series: an understated stylishness, characters who are adult and act that way, a mystery with clear moral implications on all sides. What's funny is how it was gradually taken for granted on television, but seeing it now in theaters reminds me of how childish most current releases are.
Seriously. The movie made me realize how inmature and irrelevant most Hollywood thrillers really are nowadays.

Rowland
08-25-2008, 07:17 PM
Meh, this movie only feigns relevance by referencing every hot button issue under the sun without exploring any single one with depth. The endlessly talky dialogue spells out its themes, the jokes fall flat, the plot develops no more tension than a forgettable episode of the television series, the climax sputters to an irrelevant, ridiculous conclusion, and details from the show are awkwardly referenced throughout (WTF, where did Skinner come from?).

Grouchy
08-25-2008, 07:24 PM
(WTF, where did Skinner come from?).
It's implied that Scully called him when the black dude at the FBI refused to help - she even said to him "give me someone with balls". Skinner is the only friend they have left at the bureau, I guess.

Rowland
08-25-2008, 07:50 PM
Oh yes, and the Peet character's fate was one of the most transparent, unaffecting devices for upping the stakes that I can recall in a movie this year. The overhead shot of her falling was hilariously tacky.

Dead & Messed Up
08-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Meh, this movie only feigns relevance by referencing every hot button issue under the sun without exploring any single one with depth. The endlessly talky dialogue spells out its themes, the jokes fall flat, the plot develops no more tension than a forgettable episode of the television series, the climax sputters to an irrelevant, ridiculous conclusion, and details from the show are awkwardly referenced throughout (WTF, where did Skinner come from?).

I don't think they were grabs at relevance - they were grabs at moral ambiguity. I thought that was one of the film's greatest strengths; avoiding simple answers. I especially liked the very end, where

we have no idea how the treatment will turn out. Very appropriate given the matter of faith not having a defined answer. Having the kid either recover or die would've been too pat.

Rowland
08-25-2008, 11:25 PM
I don't think they were grabs at relevance - they were grabs at moral ambiguity. I was thinking more along the lines of Bush, the pedophilic priest, the gay Russian men, and what have you. I didn't think there was much ambiguity, the entire narrative was swamped in the oft-discussed and signposted "subtext" of science vs. faith (hence I Want to Believe). Otherwise, even the narrative on its own surface terms is uninspired.

Grouchy
08-26-2008, 02:51 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of Bush, the pedophilic priest, the gay Russian men, and what have you. I didn't think there was much ambiguity, the entire narrative was swamped in the oft-discussed and signposted "subtext" of science vs. faith (hence I Want to Believe).
But you're remarking yourself arguments in favor of the movie's coherence of thought. "I Want To Believe", besides being a catchphrase of the series, is given meaning as a symbol of the agents struggle to cope with what's uncertain and (even at the very end) left unanswered. At its backbone, it's a great film about fate.

I dunno. I just think it would've been very easy to churn out a two-hour wink wink special episode and, instead, we have a movie that explores the struggles of Mulder and Scully in a different light. I think the Bush thing was just a joke that was bound to piss some people off because of its randomness.

Rowland
08-26-2008, 03:05 AM
But you're remarking yourself arguments in favor of the movie's coherence of thought. "I Want To Believe", besides being a catchphrase of the series, is given meaning as a symbol of the agents struggle to cope with what's uncertain and (even at the very end) left unanswered. At its backbone, it's a great film about fate.They spend lots of time talking about this theme, but the film is never gripping enough nor inspiring enough for it to register as more than just that, a lot of talk. It doesn't bring anything to the table that many episodes of the show haven't already explored to far more potent dividends.

Dukefrukem
08-26-2008, 03:21 AM
I just saw this and I thought it was mostly a good time. What irritated me was the lack of a climax.

Mulder arrives, Scully arrives, the one guy is knocked out, then Scully puts on some gloves.
.

Totally freakin agree. I also didn't like:

The fact that Mulder on the team, barely made an impact in the case. He pretty much found the compound by accident and then wasn't even the hero. What a waste.

Dead & Messed Up
08-26-2008, 04:32 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of Bush, the pedophilic priest, the gay Russian men, and what have you. I didn't think there was much ambiguity, the entire narrative was swamped in the oft-discussed and signposted "subtext" of science vs. faith (hence I Want to Believe). Otherwise, even the narrative on its own surface terms is uninspired.

Are gay Russian men a hot topic these days?

:lol:

I thought the Bush thing was just a gag - a little bit of levity before things got serious. I thought the pedophilia was meant to inspire doubt, not to hit a particularly timely issue (that "issue" isn't as big now as it was, say, four years ago); by making the psychic easily (and rightfully) doubted and the villains more sympathetic, the story has a bit more texture to it.

Finally, the "signposted" nature of the theme didn't bother me, mostly because, as you note, it's there in the flippin' title. It's meant to be a clear-cut discussion of faith and evidence, with the "I Want" signifying a possible reconciliation between the two.

Bosco B Thug
08-27-2008, 12:44 AM
I can see where criticisms of this film are coming from, but I still think the film is undeniably rewarding.


I was thinking more along the lines of Bush, the pedophilic priest, the gay Russian men, and what have you. I didn't think there was much ambiguity, the entire narrative was swamped in the oft-discussed and signposted "subtext" of science vs. faith (hence I Want to Believe). Otherwise, even the narrative on its own surface terms is uninspired. I think the film is a lot more understated than you give it credit for. I mean, the film is talky, but the only thing I see as possibly overworked is Mulder and Scully's flowery "feelings" talk (which I nevertheless think is very well-written and telling).

Gay marriage is hardly a topic of the film. So then, can we label its presence in the film as a cheap stab at topicality? I'm not saying the film has very much to say about homosexuality or gay marriage, but, like Joshua, it is the film's tricky rhetoric that it integrates this plot point without belaboring it as anything worth heedless assumations. If anything, the problem with the movie is it doesn't have anything more pointedly political and "hot button" to say about the role gayness - or even Russian-ness - plays in the commentary of the story. Thus it's also underdevelopment on the part of the film, which is why the film isn't exceptional, but it's very daring narrative texture nevertheless.

Also, I'm not going to say, God forbid, that pedophile priests are "misunderstood souls forsaken by conservative American society." But I am going to say the film works very well as a very subdued allegory commenting on conservative thought unwilling to strive for true understanding, or too willing to make judgments without the goal of genuine justice or hope shining through in the end. When is gay marriage (or gay Russian men, as DaMU put it) or stem cell research a hot topic issue? When considering it is left at "How icky and unconventional, it can't matter that much to justify changing my way of life and thinking," without seeing any of the hope and rightfulness in the reasons so many people are proponents of these things. In the case of the film, the possibility of true, supernaturally divine redemption or radical treatments is left at "Overly hopeful and heartwarming bullcrap not worth considering, and thus will have no part in this investigation or in providing hope."

Any messages it wears too comfortably on its sleeve are balanced out by the minutiae and matter-of-fact considerations the film creates for its characters: a pedophile insipidly looking for forgiveness by, duh of course, mailing the Pope!; a Russian schmuck trying to save his dying partner by going to morally shady compatriots; or, to get away from homosexuality, a couple of alternative thinking idealists living and hiding together as soul mates but unmarried (!!! hahaha), or an unextraordinary FBI agent who forsakes all association with wildcards Mulder and Scully when they need his help the most, despite all their sacrifices to the FBI and their coming back to help them.


They spend lots of time talking about this theme, but the film is never gripping enough nor inspiring enough for it to register as more than just that, a lot of talk. It doesn't bring anything to the table that many episodes of the show haven't already explored to far more potent dividends. I don't know, the film kind of distills the liberal ethos of the show in ways the show never has. Thinking back on the show's mythology episodes, the overarcing ideology was always about the military industrial complex and government abuse of power, with public society purely as victims. This movie is about small people, defining of overall society, abusing their roles, feigning righteousness or know-how, trying to take the easy way out of things, and, well, being small.


Oh yes, and the Peet character's fate was one of the most transparent, unaffecting devices for upping the stakes that I can recall in a movie this year. The overhead shot of her falling was hilariously tacky. Upping the stakes? That whole sequence of events works to effectively wipe out all stakes.

And I thought Carter's decision to linger on Peet's fall was very powerful... partly playing up Peet's character's sacrifice to the stakes at hand, but mostly us seeing her own personal stakes (her career, her work, her womanhood, the respect she savors evoking from others) evaporating before her very eyes. Like Tarantino's lingering in Death Proof's crash scene, only, yeah, more generic - but still effective.


Haha, oh the The X-Files movie.

Morris Schæffer
07-29-2009, 03:40 PM
What's funny is how it was gradually taken for granted on television, but seeing it now in theaters reminds me of how childish most current releases are.

I can see that except that, for me, I saw regurgitation. The X-Files had quite a long run on television - too long numerous folks might add - and there's nothing that "I want to Believe" accomplishes to revitalize this franchise except to rehash the same old conflict between Mulder and Scully one more time. Mulder wants to believe, Scully does not or cannot. And after all this time, the impetus for the narrative is organ theft? Apart from Father Joe and his bleedin' eyes, this wasn't spooky at all, but I really dug the opening 25 minutes. And I got all warm and fuzzy seeing M & S again, but that elation dissipated soon enough. Unfortunately.