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megladon8
03-01-2011, 06:27 PM
A place for MatchCutters to voice our petty nitpicking.

I'll start.


The Godfather Part II - I found it very hard to believe that Robert de Niro aged to become Marlon Brando.

Sven
03-01-2011, 06:29 PM
The CG in True Grit nearly killed the movie for me.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 06:30 PM
The CG in True Grit nearly killed the movie for me.


Oh come on, now that's just nitpicking.

MadMan
03-01-2011, 06:33 PM
Apocalypse Now needed more Robert Duvell.

Dukefrukem
03-01-2011, 06:35 PM
Apocalypse Now needed more Robert Duvell.

and less Marlon Brando

#winning!

megladon8
03-01-2011, 06:59 PM
I'm more partial to Robert Duvall myself.

Derek
03-01-2011, 07:06 PM
Not to nitpick, but "nitpick" is one word not two, as it is in the title of this thread.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 07:11 PM
Not to nitpick, but "nitpick" is one word not two, as it is in the title of this thread.


Yeah? Well...Derek is a stupid name. For stupid people.

Derek
03-01-2011, 07:18 PM
Yeah? Well...Derek is a stupid name. For stupid people.

Not to nitpick, but that's not nitpicking. It's more like airing an unreasonable grievance. Please create a separate thread for that.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 07:21 PM
Not to nitpick, but that's not nitpicking. It's more like airing an unreasonable grievance. Please create a separate thread for that.


Um...and you are an old man and a fool?

megladon8
03-01-2011, 07:46 PM
Bale's Batman growl voice is pretty awful.

MadMan
03-01-2011, 08:07 PM
I'd go even further and state that Christian Bale is quite bad in the Batman movies. He's a decent Bruce Wayne, but that's not really a hard role to play. Michael Keaton is still the best Batman/Bruce Wayne, ever.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Here's a nitpick from the first Godfather...

That scene with Sonny beating the crap out of Carlo in the street...man that was terrible.

Some of those punches are clearly a foot or more away from the actor, and I think there was even an instance of Carlo turning his head the wrong way when he got "hit".

EyesWideOpen
03-01-2011, 09:24 PM
I'd go even further and state that Christian Bale is quite bad in the Batman movies. He's a decent Bruce Wayne, but that's not really a hard role to play. Michael Keaton is still the best Batman/Bruce Wayne, ever.

This is quite possibly the most untrue statement that's ever been stated.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 09:27 PM
No, I gotta agree, Michael Keaton was pretty awesome. Particularly as Wayne.

If he had bulked up a bit, like how he looked in Desperate Measures, he could have been an even better Batman too.

EyesWideOpen
03-01-2011, 10:07 PM
No, I gotta agree, Michael Keaton was pretty awesome. Particularly as Wayne.

If he had bulked up a bit, like how he looked in Desperate Measures, he could have been an even better Batman too.

I would rather see Cate Blanchett play Bruce Wayne then Michael Keaton.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 10:29 PM
I would rather see Cate Blanchett play Bruce Wayne then Michael Keaton.


Do you just dislike Michael Keaton?

Where's the beef?

EyesWideOpen
03-01-2011, 10:36 PM
Do you just dislike Michael Keaton?

Where's the beef?

I have no problem with Michael Keaton but he was completely unbelievable as Wayne. He's way to small and doesn't work as a playboy type which is how Wayne is supposed to be portrayed. I like Paul Giamatti but I don't want him playing Bruce Wayne either.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 10:38 PM
Michael Keaton is significantly more "attractive" than Paul Giamatti.

And what the hell does being a big guy have to do with being a playboy?

He's a playboy because he's rich as hell and a Gotham celebrity for being so. Him being a hottie has no bearing on my judgment of how the character is interpreted.

The only thing I agree is that he should have been a little more bulky to be more convincing in action scenes, but I mean, it's not like Tim Burton's goal was to make incredible action scenes.

Russ
03-01-2011, 10:43 PM
Bale's Batman growl voice is pretty awful.
I'm sure there's another thread around here for understatements...

EyesWideOpen
03-01-2011, 11:37 PM
Michael Keaton is significantly more "attractive" than Paul Giamatti.

And what the hell does being a big guy have to do with being a playboy?

He's a playboy because he's rich as hell and a Gotham celebrity for being so. Him being a hottie has no bearing on my judgment of how the character is interpreted.

The only thing I agree is that he should have been a little more bulky to be more convincing in action scenes, but I mean, it's not like Tim Burton's goal was to make incredible action scenes.

You missed my "and". He didn't work because he was too small "and" doesn't work as a playboy type. I'm not saying these are the same thing.

No matter the quality of the films George Clooney, Val Kilmer and Christian Bale all were at least able to be convincing to me in their character.

Raiders
03-01-2011, 11:41 PM
His stature is a bit small, but I definitely think Keaton is by far the most charming and enjoyable Bruce Wayne / Batman.

Ezee E
03-01-2011, 11:46 PM
I would like Bale to be given more "Patrick Bateman" while being Bruce Wayne. There was some of that cockiness there in Batman Begins, but they stripped it in The Dark Knight. Well, except that part where he took a yacht and a bunch of models.

Ivan Drago
03-01-2011, 11:47 PM
The track 'Parting Words' from the first season score of Lost was used repeatedly in the later seasons of the show. Couldn't be any lazier.

Irish
03-01-2011, 11:50 PM
Keaton's a fine actor, but he lacks Bale's underlying violent edginess.

Even if you buff up a short guy (see: Tom Cruise), he's still a short guy. They're never physically intimidating.

With Bale, you get someone who has a bit of depth, communicating to the audience that no matter how charming he is on the surface, yeah, it's an act through and through. This is a guy who is a borderline sociopath and about an inch away from going American Psycho on the people around him.

I'll leave it to you to figure out if the last sentence is referring to the actor or the character.

megladon8
03-01-2011, 11:55 PM
When I took Script Writing in college, we had to write two plays.

One of the ones I wrote was admittedly more of a movie idea, but I wanted Christian Bale to play both Batman and Patrick Bateman in a film where Patrick Bateman becomes The Joker.

Yeah...I wrote Batman fanfic for a play writing class.

elixir
03-02-2011, 12:01 AM
The track 'Parting Words' from the first season score of Lost was used repeatedly in the later seasons of the show. Couldn't be any lazier.

???

Skitch
03-02-2011, 12:45 AM
Finally a thread for posting a thought I've been harboring for some time.

99.99999% Of Action Movies - When they call a 'magazine' a 'clip'. :frustrated:

megladon8
03-02-2011, 12:53 AM
Finally a thread for posting a thought I've been harboring for some time.

99.99999% Of Action Movies - When they call a 'magazine' a 'clip'. :frustrated:


I have to admit I wasn't aware until just a year or two ago that it's called a "shell" and not a "bullet" or "round" or whatever other terminology is used.

I mean, none of them are wrong, but apparently "shell" is the most correct, and if you're dealing with characters who supposedly know a lot about guns, that's the word that should be used.

Dukefrukem
03-02-2011, 12:34 PM
Here's a nitpick from the first Godfather...

That scene with Sonny beating the crap out of Carlo in the street...man that was terrible.

Some of those punches are clearly a foot or more away from the actor, and I think there was even an instance of Carlo turning his head the wrong way when he got "hit".

YES!!!!!!!!!! They couldn't have found a better angle??? I loathe that scene.

MadMan
03-02-2011, 08:50 PM
This thread just reminds me of the classic thread dedicated to declaring things were overrated/controversial opinions.

Fezzik
03-02-2011, 08:51 PM
As much as I love Back to the Future, one thing that's always bothered me...

The lightning strikes the clock tower at 10:04PM. That's a 60 second window. Yet, Doc knew exactly which second it struck and was able to send Marty home.

A very little thing, but it nags at me sometimes.

Russ
03-02-2011, 10:47 PM
That helicopter shadow in The Shining still bugs me to this day. I know all about the arguments of intended aspect ratio and yada yada...

I just find it difficult to believe that as much of a perfectionist as Kubrick was that it was never corrected (as the tv viewings always contained this little flaw).

DavidSeven
03-03-2011, 01:27 AM
Keaton's a fine actor, but he lacks Bale's underlying violent edginess.

Yeah, this is pretty much it. How soon we forget the droves of nerds who geeked out over Bale's casting in Batman Begins for this very reason. The guy has the market cornered on chiseled actors with a hint of sociopath.

number8
03-03-2011, 01:51 AM
I have to admit I wasn't aware until just a year or two ago that it's called a "shell" and not a "bullet" or "round" or whatever other terminology is used.

I mean, none of them are wrong, but apparently "shell" is the most correct, and if you're dealing with characters who supposedly know a lot about guns, that's the word that should be used.

Eh? Shells are shotgun rounds. Handguns don't use shells, I don't think.

megladon8
03-03-2011, 02:21 AM
Oh, I thought all guns used "shells".

...Scar? You around?

Dukefrukem
03-03-2011, 01:17 PM
As much as I love Back to the Future, one thing that's always bothered me...

The lightning strikes the clock tower at 10:04PM. That's a 60 second window. Yet, Doc knew exactly which second it struck and was able to send Marty home.

A very little thing, but it nags at me sometimes.

I think they make a point to say it hits the clock tower at exactly (or precisely) 10:04 PM

Fezzik
03-03-2011, 01:21 PM
I think they make a point to say it hits the clock tower at exactly (or precisely) 10:04 PM

While Doc DOES say "...precisely 10:04 next Saturday night," he said "precisely" a lot during the course of the movie. I didn't take it to mean 10:04 and zero seconds, but maybe I'm wrong.

I actually hope I am. That would close up the one nit I had about that movie.

Its one of my all-time favorites.

Dukefrukem
03-03-2011, 02:02 PM
What about the Minority Report plot flaw?


1. The Precogs envision future events which will occur if no one intervenes.

2. Cruise is led to the man he eventually shoots by the female Precog's visions.

3. The act of setting Cruise up involves having the man falsely claim he killed Cruise's son.

Fair enough. But the problem is the man's false claim isn't told to Cruise until Cruise is already in the apartment. So there is no motive for Tom to hunt him down originally. The vision the Precog has is of an event which would never have happened had she not had the vision. So how could she have the vision in the first place?

Raiders
03-03-2011, 02:07 PM
Pretty sure "precisely" meant, in the film's terms, 10:04 and zero seconds, but that doesn't clear up the nit. The flyer Marty had didn't say 10:04 and zero seconds and nobody would ever know exactly how many seconds into the minute it happened. It's definitely a small nit to pick, but it is valid nonetheless.

This would have been cleared up if the clock had a seconds hand, but it does not.

Mara
03-03-2011, 02:07 PM
This thread title is gross.

/nitpick

Morris Schæffer
03-03-2011, 03:42 PM
Here's a Minority Report nitpick.

In the scene where Farrell exposes Von Sydow and understands what exactly the old man has done - I think kill Agatha's mother in order to preserve the Precog program - Von Sydow is given one awful line of bad guy dialogue (something about him not hearing any click clacks from the cops running up the stairs this time) that not only robs the subsequent gun shot of its true, surprising impact, but it makes the man look like he's relishing what he's done and I never saw him like that. More like a man who does things because of a deep-rooted belief about the need for the precog program.

Ivan Drago
03-03-2011, 05:25 PM
???

My roommate said it, not me. This thread is perfect for me to tell all about his nitpicks of everything he hates. Like LOST, for example. While I was playing "Parting Words", a track from the score of season 1, he said "You know they used that quite often in later seasons of the show, right?" I said, "So what?" And then he said "So that's just lazy scoring on their part."