Match-Cut Directors Consensus - Michael Cimino

[B-side]

http://www.nndb.com/people/810/000043681/michael-cimino-1.jpg

Filmography:

# To Each His Own Cinema (2007) (segment "No Translation Needed")
# The Sunchaser (1996)
# Desperate Hours (1990)
# The Sicilian (1987)
# Year of the Dragon (1985)
# Heaven's Gate (1980)
# The Deer Hunter (1978)
# Thunderbolt and Lightfoot (1974)

[B-side]

The Deer Hunter - 8.5

[StanleyK]

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - 4

[Melville]

The Deer Hunter - 7.5

[Ezee E]

The Deer Hunter - 10

[Kurosawa Fan]

The Deer Hunter - 8.5

[dreamdead]

The Deer Hunter - 8

[balmakboor]

# The Sicilian (1987) - 1
# Year of the Dragon (1985) - 7
# Heaven's Gate (1980) - 10
# The Deer Hunter (1978) - 10
# Thunderbolt and Lightfoot (1974) - 8

Yes, I feel he made two of the greatest American films of all time back to back.

[Derek]

Heaven's Gate - 5.0
The Deer Hunter - 8.0

[Grouchy]

The Deer Hunter - 9

I refuse to rate his short film in that movie but I will say that it sucks.

[balmakboor]

The Deer Hunter - 9

I refuse to rate his short film in that movie but I will say that it sucks.

???

[Ezee E]

???
I'm guessing he means the wedding? And that's not a short film...

[baby doll]

I believe Grouchy is referring to Cimino's segment from Chacun son cinéma, which as he says, isn't very good.

The Deer Hunter (1978) [8]
Heaven's Gate (1980) [7]
The Year of the Dragon (1985) [5]

[Grouchy]

I believe Grouchy is referring to Cimino's segment from Chacun son cinéma, which as he says, isn't very good.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about.

[balmakboor]

One thing I don't think Cimino can do is think short.

[soitgoes...]

The Deer Hunter - 5.0
Heaven's Gate - 5.5
The Desperate Hours - 2.0

[Spinal]

The Deer Hunter - 5

[Yxklyx]

The Deer Hunter - 8

[Raiders]

The Deer Hunter (1978) 8.0

[Boner M]

To Each His Own Cinema (2007) (segment "No Translation Needed") - 2
The Deer Hunter - 6.5

[balmakboor]

Anything below an 8 for The Deer Hunter makes me weep.

It reminds me of a story though. When I was in college in about 1981, a humanities club was showing The Deer Hunter on campus. The same night a frat house showed Deep Throat. It was all over the school paper a few days later about how The Deer Hunter had only sold 8 tickets while Deep Throat sold out three screenings.

I won't say which movie I saw...

[Spaceman Spiff]

I can never make up my mind re: The Deer Hunter, but I will say that the wedding scene bores me shitless.

[balmakboor]

I can never make up my mind re: The Deer Hunter, but I will say that the wedding scene bores me shitless.

:cry:

[B-side]

The wedding scene is brilliant.

[Ezee E]

I doubt any movie would ever attempt such a thing again. I'll give it that.

[balmakboor]

Gotta admit it's extremely ballsy to open a Vietnam War film by spending something like the first third showing the events surrounding a wedding. I do agree though that the wedding is brilliant, my favorite part of the film actually.

[balmakboor]

Btw, for anyone who wishes to see The Deer Hunter in a very different light, go to a library or good bookstore and get your hands on Robin Wood's "Hollywood From Vietnam to Reagan ... and Beyond." Its chapter on Cimino is great. So are the chapters on Scorsese and De Palma. Hell, the whole book is great.

I'd love for there to be a thread where we discuss every point he makes in the book. It could lead to some animated arguments. For instance, he had little good to say about Altman, Cronenberg, Lynch, Lucas, and Spielberg. He loved Romero though, boy did he love Romero -- until Creepshow that is. But I realize I'm probably the only one here interested in such a thing.

Wood would've loved to have seen such a thread though. He admitted in his new introduction to the final edition of the book that he was very dismayed that after all the work he put into his eloquent defense of Heaven's Gate that nobody ever tried to engage him in a serious discussion/debate about the film and his reading of it. Did everyone agree with him? Did nobody care?

[Raiders]

Btw, for anyone who wishes to see The Deer Hunter in a very different light, go to a library or good bookstore and get your hands on Robin Wood's "Hollywood From Vietnam to Reagan ... and Beyond." Its chapter on Cimino is great. So are the chapters on Scorsese and De Palma. Hell, the whole book is great.

I'd love for there to be a thread where we discuss every point he makes in the book. It could lead to some animated arguments. For instance, he had little good to say about Altman, Cronenberg, Lynch, Lucas, and Spielberg. He loved Romero though, boy did he love Romero -- until Creepshow that is. But I realize I'm probably the only one here interested in such a thing.

Wood would've loved to have seen such a thread though. He admitted in his new introduction to the final edition of the book that he was very dismayed that after all the work he put into his eloquent defense of Heaven's Gate that nobody ever tried to engage him in a serious discussion/debate about the film and his reading of it. Did everyone agree with him? Did nobody care?

Are you related to Robin Wood?

[balmakboor]

Are you related to Robin Wood?

The more I read his work, the more I wish I was. I can't think of any other author with whom I feel a greater affinity.

[balmakboor]

Is this thing going to be tallied? Not much point though I guess. The only thing that qualifies is The Deer Hunter.

[B-side]

Is this thing going to be tallied? Not much point though I guess. The only thing that qualifies is The Deer Hunter.

I can do it real quick.

[B-side]

RESULTS:
The Deer Hunter - 7.857 (14)
Heaven's Gate - 6.875 (4)

DID NOT QUALIFY:
The Desperate Hours - 2 (1)
The Sicilian - 1 (1)
Year of the Dragon - 6 (2)
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - 6 (2)

Most Seen: balmakboor

[balmakboor]

RESULTS:
The Deer Hunter - 7.857 (14)

DID NOT QUALIFY:
The Desperate Hours - 2 (1)
The Sicilian - 1 (1)
Year of the Dragon - 6 (2)
Heaven's Gate - 6.875 (4)
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - 4 (1)

Most Seen: balmakboor

That rounds up to an 8 so I'm satisfied. I'll be re-watching Heaven's Gate tomorrow morning. Stoked.

[StanleyK]

RESULTS:
The Deer Hunter - 7.857 (14)

DID NOT QUALIFY:
The Desperate Hours - 2 (1)
The Sicilian - 1 (1)
Year of the Dragon - 6 (2)
Heaven's Gate - 6.875 (4)
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - 4 (1)

Most Seen: balmakboor

You ignored balmakboor's rating for Thunderbolt and Lightfoot; also, at 4 votes Heaven's Gate does qualify (nitpicking, sorry).

[B-side]

You ignored balmakboor's rating for Thunderbolt and Lightfoot; also, at 4 votes Heaven's Gate does qualify (nitpicking, sorry).

Whoops. I actually was not sure of the cut-off for qualification. I'll fix that now.