MC Consensus of All-time! ... ALL-TIME!

[Spinal]

Submit your ten favorite eligible films and in a week I (or possibly Raiders) will give you a top twenty.

The point system is as follows

1st Place-10 points
2nd Place- 8 points
3rd Place- 7 points
4th Place- 6 points
5th Place- 5 points
6th Place - 4 points
7th Place - 3.5 points
8th Place - 3 points
9th Place - 2.5 points
10th Place - 2 points

Ten eligible films must be listed.

Eligible films:
12 Angry Men
2001: A Space Odyssey
8½
A Clockwork Orange
A Man Escaped
A Trip to the Moon
A.I.
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Amadeus
Andrei Rublev
Angels with Dirty Faces
Annie Hall
Apocalypse Now
Au Hasard Balthazar
Barry Lyndon
Beauty and the Beast
Bicycle Thieves
Blade Runner
Blue Velvet
Boogie Nights
Brazil
Breaking the Waves
Breathless
Bringing Up Baby
Casablanca
Children of Men
Children of Paradise
Chinatown
Chungking Express
Citizen Kane
City Lights
Days of Heaven
Dead Man
Dekalog
Do the Right Thing
Dogville
Double Indemnity
Dr. Strangelove
Duck Soup
Eraserhead
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Exotica
Eyes Wide Shut
F For Fake
Fanny and Alexander
Fantasia
Fargo
Frankenstein
Freaks
Goodfellas
Hana-bi
Hiroshima mon amour
His Girl Friday
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
Ikiru
In a Lonely Place
In the Mood for Love
Inglourious Basterds
Inland Empire
It's a Wonderful Life
Ivan the Terrible Part I
Jaws
JFK
King Kong
La Dolce Vita
L'Atalante
Late Spring
L'Avventura
Lawrence of Arabia
Les Vampires
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Lost Highway
M
Magnolia
Make Way for Tomorrow
Manhattan
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
Meshes of the Afternoon
Metropolis
Modern Times
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
Mulholland Dr.
My Life to Live
Naked
Napoleon
Network
Night of the Living Dead
Nights of Cabiria
No Country for Old Men
Nosferatu
Nostalghia
Notorious
Oldboy
Once Upon a Time in America
Once Upon a Time in the West
Only Angels Have Wings
Ordet
Pandora's Box
Paris, Texas
Paths of Glory
Persona
Play Time
Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Punch Drunk Love
Raging Bull
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Ran
Rear Window
Requiem for a Dream
Rosemary's Baby
Rushmore
Sans soleil
Schindler's List
Seven Chances
Seven Samurai
Shadow of a Doubt
Sherlock Jr.
Stagecoach
Stalker
Strike
Stroszek
Sullivan's Travels
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
Sunset Boulevard
Taxi Driver
The 400 Blows
The Apartment
The Battleship Potemkin
The Big Lebowski
The Big Sleep
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
The Circus
The Conversation
The Elephant Man
The Empire Strikes Back
The General
The Goat
The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
The Gold Rush
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
The Grand Illusion
The Last Laugh
The Last Temptation of Christ
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
The Man Who Planted Trees
The Man With the Movie Camera
The Mirror
The Night of the Hunter
The Passion of Joan of Arc
The Red Shoes
The Royal Tenenbaums
The Rules of the Game
The Searchers
The Seventh Seal
The Shining
The Shop Around the Corner
The Son
The Sweet Hereafter
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse
The Thin Red Line
The Thing
The Third Man
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
The Wizard of Oz
There Will Be Blood
Three Colors: Red
Throne of Blood
Tokyo Story
Touch of Evil
Tropical Malady
Trouble in Paradise
Ugetsu
Un chien andalou
Vertigo
Werckmeister Harmonies
Winter Light
Woman in the Dunes
Yi Yi

[Ezee E]

1. Goodfellas
2. The Shining
3. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
4. Boogie Nights
5. The Godfather
6. Taxi Driver
7. Amadeus
8. Children of Men
9. Do The Right Thing
10. The Apartment

[Spinal]

1. Amadeus
2. Breaking the Waves
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. The Sweet Hereafter
5. Sunset Boulevard
6. Dogville
7. Mulholland Dr.
8. Winter Light
9. Dr. Strangelove
10. Metropolis

[Ezee E]

Oh, didn't notice Amadeus. Edited.

Surprised All that Jazz didn't make the cut. Figured that was loved around here.

[endingcredits]

1. The Mirror
2. Au Hasard Balthazar
3. Andrei Rublev
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
5. Ordet
6. Persona
7. The Son
8. Woman in the Dunes
9. Fanny and Alexander
10. Blue Velvet

[Spinal]

Surprised All that Jazz didn't make the cut. Figured that was loved around here.

Hard to crack that 70s list.

[Lazlo]

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
3. The Royal Tenenbaums
4. No Country for Old Men
5. The Empire Strikes Back
6. Children of Men
7. Amadeus
8. Lawrence of Arabia
9. Schindler's List
10. Apocalypse Now

[baby doll]

Eligible:

La Règle du jeu (Jean Renoir, 1939)
Late Spring (Yasujiro Ozu, 1949)
Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock, 1954)
Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966)
Play Time (Jacques Tati, 1967)
Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)
Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders, 1984)
Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989)
Yi Yi (Edward Yang, 2000)

Ineligible:

Spies (Fritz Lang, 1928)
Love Me Tonight (Rouben Mamoulian, 1932)
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (Michael Powell / Emeric Pressburger, 1943)
Monsieur Verdoux (Charles Chaplin, 1947)
Letter From an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)
Life of Oharu (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1952)
Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954)
L'Année dernière Ã* Marienbad (Alain Resnais, 1961)
Lola (Jacques Demy, 1961)
Le Mépris (Jean-Luc Godard, 1963)
Les Demoiselles de Rochefort (Jacques Demy, 1967)
Red Psalm (Miklós Jancsó, 1972)
A Woman Under the Influence (John Cassavetes, 1974)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1979)
The Draughtsman's Contract (Peter Greenaway, 1982)
Distant Voices, Still Lives (Terence Davies, 1988)
The Puppet Master (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1993)
Irma Vep (Olivier Assayas, 1996)
La Promesse (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 1996)
I'm Not There. (Todd Haynes, 2007)

[Duncan]

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. The Mirror
3. 8½
4. L'Avventura
5. Naked
6. Days of Heaven
7. Au Hasard Balthazar
8. The Passion of Joan of Arc
9. Werckmeister Harmonies
10. Throne of Blood

[elixir]

Wow, I've never put them in order before! I'm not sure I've seen enough, but I'll give it a show anyways.

1. 8 1/2
2. Persona
3. The 400 Blows
4. Nights of Cabiria
5. Sunset Blvd.
6. Annie Hall
7. Casablanca
8. Vertigo
9. Citizen Kane
10. Schindler's List

Ineligible: Cries and Whispers, The Graduate, Hoop Dreams

I really feel like I haven't seen enough, so this is VERY VERY tentative, and in just a year, I'd imagine this would look pretty different (the bottom five at least).

[StanleyK]

1. Persona (Ingmar Bergman, 1966)
2. The Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick, 1998)
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968)
4. Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone, 1968)
5. Andrei Rublev (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1966)
6. Punch-Drunk Love (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2002)
7. 8½ (Federico Fellini, 1963)
8. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)
9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1928)
10. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Steven Spielberg, 1981)

[Melville]

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Andrei Rublev
3. Persona
4. Ordet
5. The Mirror
6. The Son
7. Vertigo
8. Lawrence of Arabia
9. Blue Velvet
10. Punch Drunk Love

Quite surprised that 5 out of my top 15 aren't eligible, including my two favorite movies. My true list:
1 Edvard Munch (Watkins, 1974)
2 Solaris (Tarkovsky, 1972)
3 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
4 Andrei Rublev (Tarkovsky, 1969)
5 Persona (Bergman, 1966)
6 Ordet (Dreyer, 1955)
7 The Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1975)
8 The Son (Dardennes, 2002)
9 Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
10 Possession (Zulawski, 1981)
11 Cries and Whispers (Bergman, 1972)
12 Ivan the Terrible Part II (Eisenstein, 1946)
13 Lawrence of Arabia (Lean, 1962)
14 Blue Velvet (Lynch, 1986)
15 Punch-Drunk Love (PT Anderson, 2002)

[ContinentalOp]

1. Seven Samurai
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. A Man Escaped
4. The Third Man
5. The Big Lebowski
6. The Apartment
7. The Circus
8. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
9. Paths of Glory
10. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

[Adam]

1. Rushmore
2. Chinatown
3. Punch-Drunk Love
4. Children of Paradise
5. Rosemary's Baby
6. Chungking Express
7. Naked
8. Paths of Glory
9. Brazil
0. Notorious

[Dukefrukem]

No Inception? Lame.

1. Rear Window
2. 2001: A Space Oddesy
3. The Shawshank Redemption
4. Seven Samurai
5. Mulholland Dr
6. Pulp Fiction
7. 12 Angry Men
8. The Thing
9. It's a Wonderful Life
10. Brazil

[Spinal]

No Inception? Lame.


We haven't had a consensus for this decade yet, as it has only just begun.

[Stay Puft]

1. Tropical Malady
2. Stalker
3. Dead Man
4. La Dolce Vita
5. Hana-bi
6. Exotica
7. In the Mood for Love
8. Aguirre, the Wrath of God
9. Sans soleil
10. The Thin Red Line

[soitgoes...]

Lawrence of Arabia
The Grand Illusion
Dekalog
Winter Light
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Rules of the Game
Boogie Nights
Tokyo Story
Ikiru
Stalker

[Fezzik]

In the Mood for Love
City Lights
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Amadeus
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Empire Strikes Back
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Casablanca
Chungking Express
Schindler's List

[EyesWideOpen]

1. A Clockwork Orange
2. The Wizard of Oz
3. Casablanca
4. Eyes Wide Shut
5. It's a Wonderful Life
6. The Apartment
7. Oldboy
8. Rear Window
9. Paths of Glory
10. Psycho

[Yxklyx]

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Nights of Cabiria
3. Mulholland Dr.
4. The Seventh Seal
5. Vertigo
6. L' Eclisse
7. 8 1/2
8. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
9. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
10. The Apartment

[Skitch]

No Akira. Le sigh.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Ineligible:

I'm Not There. (Todd Haynes, 2007)

What? Get out of town.

[Russ]

1. Stroszek
2. The Man Who Planted Trees
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. Inland Empire
5. Woman in the Dunes
6. Taxi Driver
7. Play Time
8. The Night of the Hunter
9. In the Mood for Love
10. Aguirre, the Wrath of God

[Mysterious Dude]

1. The 400 Blows
2. Napoleon
3. The Elephant Man
4. Breathless
5. Touch of Evil
6. M
7. Metropolis
8. The Night of the Hunter
9. A Woman Under the Influence
10. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari

[Raiders]

1. Au hasard Balthazar (1966)
2. The Conversation (1974)
3. A Man Escaped (1956)
4. In a Lonely Place (1950)
5. Days of Heaven (1978)
6. Persona (1966)
7. Sans soleil (1983)
8. Woman in the Dunes (1964)
9. Sherlock Jr. (1924)
10. Play Time (1967)

[baby doll]

What? Get out of town.Not a fan?

[MacGuffin]

1. Mulholland Dr.
2. Psycho
3. Dogville
4. The Big Lebowski
5. Fargo
6. Rushmore
7. Chinatown
8. Dead Man
9. McCabe and Mrs. Miller
10. Touch of Evil

It feels odd not having my favorite Godard movies make an appearance, but I suppose you can't fault others for not having taste in film as good as your own.

[Ivan Drago]

1. Magnolia
2. The Passion of Joan of Arc
3. Duck Soup
4. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
5. Amadeus
6. A Clockwork Orange
7. In The Mood For Love
8. Pulp Fiction
9. Jaws
10. Raging Bull

[Sxottlan]

Based on what's eligible:

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. The Searchers
3. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
4. The Shining
5. Vertigo
6. Touch of Evil
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
8. Days of Heaven
9. 2001: A Space Odyssey
10.The Night of the Hunter

The real list (which is starting to get a little out of date):

1. Ghostbusters
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. Dark City
4. Airplane!
5. The Searchers
6. The Shining
7. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
8. Hard-Boiled
9. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
10.The Lord of the Rings

I really don't rank favorites after that, so it gets a bit random:

11.Picnic at Hanging Rock
12.Vertigo
13.Touch of Evil
14.Castle in the Sky
15.The Fog
16.Raising Arizona
17.Black Narcissus
18.No Country for Old Men
19.The Godfather, Part II
20.Millennium Actress

[Lucky]

1. Vertigo
2. Mulholland Drive
3. Annie Hall
4. Double Indemnity
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6. In the Mood for Love
7. The Godfather
8. The Bicycle Thieves
9. Three Colors: Red
10. Requiem for a Dream

[Milky Joe]

1. JFK
2. Eyes Wide Shut
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. Network
5. Blue Velvet
6. L'Avventura
7. Boogie Nights
8. City Lights
9. Vertigo
10. The Big Lebowski

[Russ]

What I love about match-cut:

So far, 25 lists w/23 different nbr 1's (2001 is tops on 3 lists).

[Grouchy]

1. Vertigo
2. Once Upon a Time in the West
3. Eyes Wide Shut
4. Chinatown
5. Raging Bull
6. 8 1/2
7. Ran
8. Brazil
9. The Big Lebowski
10. Blue Velvet

[Grouchy]

What I love about match-cut:

So far, 25 lists w/23 different nbr 1's (2001 is tops on 3 lists).
Heh, sorry to break the trend.

[Kurosawa Fan]

1. The Passion of Joan of Arc
2. Ran
3. Casablanca
4. Ikiru
5. In the Mood for Love
6. Dr. Strangelove
7. The Conversation
8. City Lights
9. Citizen Kane
10. 8 1/2

[MadMan]

Okay, call me lazy, but even though I've viewed more of this list since it was made, I really don't feel like crafting a new Top 10. So I'm just going to cut and paste the ones I posted commentary for in my fantastic terrible thread.

1. Apocalypse Now (1979)
2. The Godfather (1972)
3. Citizen Kane (1941)
4. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
5. The Third Man (1949)
6. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (1966)
7. Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the Bomb (1964)
8. The Seventh Seal (1957)
9. The Gold Rush (1925)
10. Goodfellas (1990)

[B-side]

1. Barry Lyndon
2. Lawrence of Arabia
3. Once Upon a Time in America
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
5. Nostalghia
6. F For Fake
7. Meshes of the Afternoon
8. Ivan the Terrible Part I
9. The Mirror
10. Persona

[Llopin]

1. Hana-bi
2. 8½
3. Naked
4. Throne of Blood
5. Persona
6. Sans soleil
7. The Apartment
8. Werckmeister Harmonies
9. The Empire Strikes Back
10. Au Hasard Balthazar

[Dukefrukem]

We haven't had a consensus for this decade yet, as it has only just begun.

Touche. :lol:

[Weeping_Guitar]

01. The Empire Strikes Back
02. Rushmore
03. Rear Window
04. Casablanca
05. 8½
06. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
07. His Girl Friday
08. Late Spring
09. The 400 Blows
10. Raiders of the Lost Ark

[dmk]

Only two films in my Top 20 are eligible. I'm not certain whether I should be offended or what.

01. Dekalog
02. Ordet
03. Three Colors: Red
04. Days of Heaven
05. Dead Man
06. The Passion of Joan of Arc
07. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
08. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
09. Yi Yi
10. The Conversation

[Robby P]

1. Touch of Evil
2. The Conversation
3. Days of Heaven
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
5. Bicycle Thieves
6. Aguirre, The Wrath of God
7. Breathless
8. F for Fake
9. Do the Right Thing
10. Taxi Driver

[B-side]

I'm the only person so far to include Barry Lyndon and Nostalghia.

[MacGuffin]

I'm the only person so far to include Barry Lyndon and Nostalghia.

Nostalghia just missed my list. I want to see it again, and I'm sure it would skyrocket if I did that (I don't regret not including it since I've excluded far more valuable ineligible titles).

[dreamdead]

1. Manhattan
2. The Thin Red Line
3. Mulholland Dr.
4. Ordet
5. Vertigo
6. The Son
7. Hana-bi
8. In the Mood for Love
9. Naked
10. Yi Yi

[baby doll]

I'm the only person so far to include Barry Lyndon and Nostalghia.I thought of putting Barry Lyndon on my list, but I've only seen it twice.

[B-side]

I thought of putting Barry Lyndon on my list, but I've only seen it twice.

I've only seen it once.:P Same goes for most of the films on my list. A top list is ever-evolving, so I don't feel it necessary to wait for multiple viewings to put something in it. Just me, though.

[Bosco B Thug]

1. Vertigo
2. Winter Light
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. The Rules of the Game
5. Barry Lyndon
6. Dogville
7. L'avventura
8. Notorious
9. McCabe and Mrs. Miller
10. The Thin Red Line

[soitgoes...]

I've only seen it once.:P Same goes for most of the films on my list. A top list is ever-evolving, so I don't feel it necessary to wait for multiple viewings to put something in it. Just me, though.I've seen it once, and it was the second to last film I dropped off my final list. So close. Kudos to Lawrence of Arabia love.

[baby doll]

I've only seen it once.:P Same goes for most of the films on my list. A top list is ever-evolving, so I don't feel it necessary to wait for multiple viewings to put something in it. Just me, though.If I were including films I've only seen once, there would just be too many movies to chose from. It's getting to the point actually that I'm thinking of raising my minimum to four viewings, just because there are so many worthy movies I've seen three times that I need to find a way of cutting it down.

[Sycophant]

I had to get down to #28 in my top 100 to make this list.

1. The Royal Tenenbaums
2. Hana-bi
3. Citizen Kane
4. Sans soleil
5. Ran
6. Vertigo
7. Chungking Express
8. Sullivan's Travels
9. City Lights
10. Do the Right Thing

[baby doll]

So it turns out that while Playtime isn't ineligible, Play Time is. (I wound up giving Les Vampires the boot simply because it's obvious that no one else is going to vote for it.) Meanwhile, all the votes for The Mirror (and the lack of support for Stalker) makes me think I should throw in with them.

Revised ballot:


La Règle du jeu (Jean Renoir, 1939)
Late Spring (Yasujiro Ozu, 1949)
Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock, 1954)
Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966)
Play Time (Jacques Tati, 1967)
Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders, 1984)
Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989)
Yi Yi (Edward Yang, 2000)

[Spinal]

Eligible:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/play2.jpg

Not eligible:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/play1.jpg

[Kurosawa Fan]

I'm out.

[Dukefrukem]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/play1.jpg

I'm watching this asap.

[transmogrifier]

Not eligible:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/play1.jpg

Thanks for reminding me why I never take part in these things. Balderdash!

[Derek]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/play1.jpg

At first glance, that guy looks like the lovechild of Werner Herzog and Judge Reinhold. In other words, a clear choice for male softcore porn star.

[megladon8]

Well, this may have been the hardest thing I've done in a while, but here's my list. I swear eliminating some of my favorite to make a top 10 was like Sophie's Choice...


1.) Blade Runner
2.) Casablanca
3.) Fanny and Alexander
4.) Oldboy
5.) Night of the Living Dead
6.) Ran
7.) King Kong
8.) The Royal Tenenbaums
9.) Mulholland Dr.
10.) Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring

[Yxklyx]

Would also like to see which films were listed the most in these top 10 lists. Surprised that Walkabout and Picnic at Hanging Rock weren't eligible.

[Spinal]

Would also like to see which films were listed the most in these top 10 lists. Surprised that Walkabout and Picnic at Hanging Rock weren't eligible.

Yeah, I'm still not over the Walkabout snub. And Los Olvidados? Bitch, please.

[chrisnu]

1. Mulholland Dr.
2. Persona
3. Sunset Boulevard
4. Rear Window
5. Barry Lyndon
6. The Conversation
7. McCabe and Mrs. Miller
8. Once Upon a Time in the West
9. In a Lonely Place
10. Fargo

[Pop Trash]

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Taxi Driver
3. The Sweet Hereafter
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
5. Psycho
6. Citizen Kane
7. Modern Times
8. Bicycle Thieves
9. Blue Velvet
10. Persona

[baby doll]

Having seen Barry Lyndon now a third time, and in light of the fact that no one else is voting for Stalker, I've decided to throw in with the Kubrick crowd.


Eligible:

La Règle du jeu (Jean Renoir, 1939)
Late Spring (Yasujiro Ozu, 1949)
Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock, 1954)
Ordet (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1955)
Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966)
Play Time (Jacques Tati, 1967)
Barry Lyndon (Stanley Kubrick, 1975)
Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders, 1984)
Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989)
Yi Yi (Edward Yang, 2000)

[B-side]

I knew I liked you for a reason, baby doll.

[Eleven]

1. Duck Soup
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. Tokyo Story
4. Vertigo
5. Lawrence of Arabia
6. Play Time
7. Sherlock Jr.
8. The Conversation
9. The Rules of the Game
10. L'Atalante

Ineligible:Close Encounters of the Third Kind, The Fly, Force of Evil, Ghostbusters, A Hard Day's Night, I Was Born But..., Life of Brian, Il Posto, The Scarlet Empress, Singin' in the Rain.

[B-side]

I suggest that we give him ten years in Leavenworth, or eleven years in Twelveworth.

[Fezzik]

I suggest that we give him ten years in Leavenworth, or eleven years in Twelveworth.

Victor Borge', is that you?

[Duncan]

Just realized The Spirit of the Beehive didn't make it. Nor La Jetee. What the fuck, Match Cut.

[StanleyK]

You guys should stop complaining that some of your favorites aren't eligible. Don't you realize it makes you special and unique?



VVV Done.

[Spinal]

I edited my ballot to include Once Upon a Time in the West. Should I change the original post?



Just edit your original post and delete your last one.

[Watashi]

1. Paris, Texas
2. Vertigo
3. The Empire Strikes Back
4. Dr. Strangelove
5. Network
6. The Passion of Joan of Arc
7. The Thin Red Line
8. Citizen Kane
9. 12 Angry Men
10. Winter Light

[baby doll]

You guys should stop complaining that some of your favorites aren't eligible. Don't you realize it makes you special and unique?I don't know if that's true necessarily. Everybody hears about movies somewhere, so it's not like people just stumble on a film like La Jetée or The Spirit of the Beehive by accident: Festival programmers program them, reviewers review them, and companies like Criterion put them out on DVD. Even if you just pick the film up in the video store without any prior knowledge of it, the film still had to get there somehow.

[MacGuffin]

I don't know if that's true necessarily. Everybody hears about movies somewhere, so it's not like people just stumble on a film like La Jetée or The Spirit of the Beehive by accident: Festival programmers program them, reviewers review them, and companies like Criterion put them out on DVD. Even if you just pick the film up in the video store without any prior knowledge of it, the film still had to get there somehow.

It's nice to have a canonical collection that demonstrates one's taste though. I think that's what StanleyK is getting at, however frolicsome.

[baby doll]

I'm just trying to remember where did I first hear about my ten favorites.

The first thing I read about Renoir generally was Ebert's great movies essay on La Grande illusion, which inspired me to buy the Criterion DVD; I don't remember precisely when I first heard of La Règle du jeu, but the first time I saw it was projected in a bar in the summer of 2004, just after it came out on DVD.

The first time I heard about Ozu was Ebert's 1991 top ten list, and when I looked up his name on Rotten Tomatoes (this was around 2001, when virtually none of his movies were on DVD), I remember reading that Late Spring was the movie where his themes and style finally crystallized. I didn't see it until several years later at a university screening, where it was projected on VHS.

My first Hitchcock was North by Northwest (TV) followed by Notorious (VHS), again after reading Ebert's top ten. That was in November, 2001, and I blind-bought Rear Window thirteen months later.

I first saw Dreyer's La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc around the same time that I saw Notorious (again, after reading Ebert's Great Movies essay), but I didn't become aware of Dreyer's sound work until a few years later when I started reading Jonathan Rosenbaum and rented the Criterion DVD.

I first heard of Bresson from Ebert's Great Movies essay on Pickpocket, which I saw at Cinematheque Ontario in the summer of 2004. Au hasard Balthazar was re-released a few years later, followed by a Criterion DVD.

I first heard of Tati from Ebert's Great Movies essay on Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot, which I saw on VHS in the spring of 2003, but I didn't see Playtime until Criterion reissued it on DVD a few years ago.

After Kubrick died, Warner Brothers reissued all of his later films on VHS, but I didn't see Barry Lyndon until November, 2001 (on TV), even though I was aware of it two years earlier.

The first time I heard of Wenders was Ebert's Great Movies essay on Wings of Desire, and I saw Paris, Texas on VHS in the fall of 2003.

I'd known about Do the Right Thing for a long time, because I remember seeing promos for it on TV when it was broadcast on CBC in the early 90s, but I didn't see it myself until the summer of 2002, when it was broadcast on a different Canadian TV station.

And the first I heard about Yi Yi was Ebert and Roeper's At the Movies review.

[StanleyK]

Just good ol' self-loathing over my (by MC standards) bland, pedestrian list. Ten widely known, highly critically acclaimed films, that probably don't really communicate my taste in film.

[transmogrifier]

It'll be interesting to compare the results to the Top 100 consensus list I did a couple of years back.

[Melville]

I'm just trying to remember where did I first hear about my ten favorites.
Interesting idea. I first heard of three of my top 10 on match-cut: Edvard Munch in Spinal's Peter Watkins thread, I think; The Son in Boner's top 50 thread; Possession in a post by Grouchy. I first heard of Persona in Ebert's Great Movies essay. I don't know where I first heard of Ordet, but I first heard of Dreyer in Ebert's Great Movies essays too. I first heard of Vertigo in the AFI 100 Years, 100 Movies special; I think that special was also what got me to watch 2001 for the first time, though I'd heard of it long before. I first heard of Tarkovsky in a review of Soderberg's Solaris, I think, though I don't recall what made me want watch his movies, three of which are in my top 10. Probably lurking on RT or some list of greatest movies somewhere. I think that pretty well covers the biggest things that introduced me to movies outside of contemporary Hollywood: the AFI special, Ebert's Great Movies, message boards, and random lists.

[Boner M]

Wasn't gonna submit a list because of the omissions of O Lucky Man (understandable), Badlands and A Woman Under the Influence (both unforgiveable). But I'll give in...

1. Vertigo
2. The Conversation
3. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
4. Andrei Rublev
5. Mulholland Dr.
6. Taxi Driver
7. Ordet
8. Rosemary's Baby
9. Au Hasard Balthazar
10. The 400 Blows

[jamaul]

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. 8 1/2
3. Playtime
4. Rear Window
5. Mulholland Drive
6. Citizen Kane
7. L'Avventura
8. Apocalypse Now
9. The Seven Samurai
10. The Thin Red Line

Where the kcuf is Contempt? :confused:

[balmakboor]

1. Sans Soleil
2. My Life to Live
3. Play Time
4. Tokyo Story
5. Raging Bull
6. Barry Lyndon
7. It's a Wonderful Life
8. Rear Window
9. Inglourious Basterds
10. The Red Shoes

Btw, I've been on a major Contempt obsession lately. What an amazing thing it is. And it feels too soon in a way to include Inglourious Basterds on such a list, but damn I've seen it six times now and have really fallen hard for it -- and my initial review was actually unfavorable.

My more or less official top 12 -- in no particular order -- posted on my blog is:

Barry Lyndon
Berlin Alexanderplatz
Blow Out
Contempt
Dazed and Confused
The Deer Hunter
Gimme Shelter
The Man Who Fell to Earth
A Married Couple
Peeping Tom
Rear Window
Vivre sa vie

[B-side]

The Man Who Fell to Earth

I really feel like you and I are the only ones who love this movie on here.

[balmakboor]

I really feel like you and I are the only ones who love this movie on here.

And I've had such a long and twisted history of loving and hating it that goes back to my first viewing while in college in 1980 (hated it then). It even inspired a short film I made about 20 years ago. I purchased the Criterion Blu-ray a few months ago while feeling rich and have watched it three very enjoyable and rewarding times since.

[B-side]

And I've had such a long and twisted history of loving and hating it that goes back to my first viewing while in college in 1980 (hated it then). It even inspired a short film I made about 20 years ago. I purchased the Criterion Blu-ray a few months ago while feeling rich and have watched it three very enjoyable and rewarding times since.

I've only seen it the one time, but I don't see myself hating it afterward. Roeg tickles my fancy.

[Grouchy]

I really feel like you and I are the only ones who love this movie on here.
For what it's worth, I think it's very good.

[B-side]

For what it's worth, I think it's very good.

Clearly, us 3 are the only reasonable ones here.

[baby doll]

It's good, but it's no Performance.

[balmakboor]

It's good, but it's no Performance.

That's true. I suppose. Performance pops in and out of my faves as well. I just think I'm in more of a sci-fi mood right now.

[Raiders]

I really feel like you and I are the only ones who love this movie on here.

Nope.

[B-side]

Nope.

Well, perhaps I've just had selective sight. I mostly seem to recall Qrazy, soitgoes and a few others trashing it.

[DavidSeven]

01. Exotica
02. Tokyo Story
03. Breathless
04. Paris, Texas
05. Annie Hall
06. Pulp Fiction
07. In a Lonely Place
08. Dr. Strangelove
09. The Rules of the Game
10. The Godfather Part II

Many of my true favorites forcefully omitted.

[balmakboor]

I'm really tempted to replace something on my list with The Night of the Hunter. I watched the new Criterion Blu-ray last night and fell in love with it to an extent I never have before. I just can't bring myself to bump anything. Damn this stuff is hard.

[Dillard]

1. Nostalghia
2. Dekalog
3. Yi Yi
4. Paris, Texas
5. Shadow of a Doubt
6. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
7. Raiders of the Lost Ark
8. The Rules of the Game
9. Play Time
10. Inland Empire

[B-side]

1. Nostalghia

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/22/agreebyrd.gif

[Dillard]

Oh yeah baby.

Amended: Only one film per director.

In: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Out: Three Colors Red.

[Ivan Drago]

Oh yeah baby.

Amended: Only one film per director.

Is this a new rule? Or are you only doing that for your list?

[Spinal]

Is this a new rule?

No.

[Dillard]

Is this a new rule? Or are you only doing that for your list?For my own list.

[lovejuice]

1. Seven Samurai
2. 12 Angry Men
3. Brazil
4. The Thin Red Line
5. Fantasia
6. Play Time
7. Raiders of the Lost Ark
8. Rear Window
9. Manhattan
10. Blue Velvet

Reading through this thread, so far my favorite top ten list is Dreamdead. Next we should vote for our favorite top ten list other than ours. Then this can go on ad infinitum.

[Spinal]

OK. Counting.

[Bosco B Thug]

Excited for this.

[Spinal]

No Inception? Lame.

1. Rear Window
2. 2001: A Space Oddesy
3. The Shawshank Redemption
4. Seven Samurai
5. Mulholland Dr
6. Pulp Fiction
7. 12 Angry Men
8. The Thing
9. It's a Wonderful Life
10. Brazil

This ballot is currently ineligible. The Shawshank Redemption is not on our list. If you want it to count, you need to fix it quickly and make a new post.

[Spinal]

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Nights of Cabiria
3. Mulholland Dr.
4. The Seventh Seal
5. Vertigo
6. L' Eclisse
7. 8 1/2
8. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
9. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
10. The Apartment

This ballot is currently ineligible. L'Eclisse is not on our list. If you want it to count, you need to fix it quickly and make a new post.

[Spinal]

1. The 400 Blows
2. Napoleon
3. The Elephant Man
4. Breathless
5. Touch of Evil
6. M
7. Metropolis
8. The Night of the Hunter
9. A Woman Under the Influence
10. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari

This ballot is currently ineligible. A Woman Under the Influence is not on our list. If you want it to count, you need to fix it quickly and make a new post.

[Yxklyx]

This ballot is currently ineligible. L'Eclisse is not on our list. If you want it to count, you need to fix it quickly and make a new post.

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Nights of Cabiria
3. Mulholland Dr.
4. The Seventh Seal
5. Vertigo
6. 8 1/2
7. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
8. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
9. The Apartmen
10. Metropolis

[Spinal]

Counting complete. Will hold about an hour to see if Duke and Isaac can get me corrections. After that, we will proceed.

[Boner M]

The Shawshank Redemption is not on our list.
Good job match-cut.

[Spinal]

Good job match-cut.

What do you think this is? IMDb?

<--- still likes The Shawshank Redemption

[Boner M]

<--- still likes The Shawshank Redemption
I don't mind it either, but its omission is pleasing nonetheless.

[Ezee E]

Mulholland Drive will be there though.

[Spinal]

OK, I'm making an executive decision to count the eligible 9 films on their lists. Just because that seems nicer than disqualifying them altogether. It also breaks the tie for 20th place and makes things tidier. So, we got our list.

[Spinal]

#19 (tie)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/samurai.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/51Px34t8pHL_SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/samuraiGarbageCollector.jpghtt p://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/2617993847_f7a9b099fa.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/313.jpg

[elixir]

I guess I should see Seven Samurai...

[Spinal]

#19 (tie)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/michael-jackson-bad.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/i-dates-medjool.jpg

[Spinal]

#18

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/rosebud.jpg

[Spinal]

#17

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/balthazar-getty-pic_226x340.jpg

[Raiders]

Yeah... I'll just wait 'til you post the master list.

[Spinal]

4-way tie for the next spot, so ...

#13 (tie)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/redlinemap.jpg

[Spinal]

#13 (tie)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/Joan20Jett.jpg

[Spinal]

#13 (tie)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/GymMUSAAlexanderArtemevRings.j pg

[Spinal]

#13 (tie)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/glennmiller1WWWWW.jpg

[Spinal]

#12

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/play1.jpg

[Spinal]

#10 (tie)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/01_Word2007Screen.gif

[Spinal]

#10 (tie)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/165414119_0b2d858a37.jpg

[Spinal]

#9

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/martin_lawrence.jpg

[elixir]

I understand like 25% of these...I thought I was better at these games. This is cool though. I like it!

[Spinal]

#8

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/TenorSaxophone.jpg

[Spinal]

#7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/leg20cast.jpg

[baby doll]

I've got five of 'em so far.

[Spinal]

#6

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/empire-state-building.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/Writers-Strike-727625.jpg

[baby doll]

Wait, maybe I've only got four. Number nine could either be Do the Right Thing or Lawrence of Arabia.

[Spinal]

#5

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/liv-tyler-20070627-275721.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/Bebe-Neuwirth-1.jpg

[elixir]

Wow, that placing at 5 makes me happy!

[baby doll]

Wow, that placing at 5 makes me happy!Yeah, I'm a big Bebe Neuwirth fan as well.

[baby doll]

Okay, here's what I got so far...

6. Manhattan?
7. Rear Window
9. Do the Right Thing / Lawrence of Arabia
10b. Ordet
12. Play Time
13. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Rings (sadly)
17. Au hasard Balthazar
18. Citizen Kane
19a. Seven Samurai

[Spinal]

#4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/everybody-hurts-singing.jpg

[Spinal]

Okay, here's what I got so far...

6. Manhattan?


Crap. You're right. It could be that. But it's not.

[baby doll]

Crap. You're right. It could be that. But it's not.Inland Empire?

[elixir]

Inland Empire?

I think it might be Vertigo?

[Spinal]

Crap. You're right. It could be that. But it's not.

Gave you a little more help with #6.

[baby doll]

I think it might be Vertigo?Maybe. Or Metropolis?

[Spinal]

Gave you a little more help with #6.

Because there's no reason why you would think this movie would place this high. Because it's crazy.

[baby doll]

Gave you a little more help with #6.It's not The Empire Strikes Back, is it?

[elixir]

I think 10b is definitely Casablanca..."casa blanca"=White House in Spanish

[baby doll]

I think 10b is definitely Casablanca..."casa blanca"=White House in SpanishGood one. Much better than my guess of the 1996 Jack Lemmon-James Garner presidential buddy comedy My Fellow Americans.

[baby doll]

Number four, just a guess: Singin' in the Rain?

[Spinal]

#3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/istockphoto_215144-blue-key.jpg

[elixir]

3 is...
Mulholland Dr.

[baby doll]

I thought the map of the LA subway system might have been Mulholland Dr., but that's gotta be number three.

[baby doll]

Joan Jett... "I Love Rock 'n' Roll"... In the Mood for Love Or would that be Glenn Miller?

[Spinal]

#2

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/scottie-280x220-tig-256.gif

[soitgoes...]

19b is Raiders

[elixir]

#2 Is that 8.5/10 of a dog?!?!?

[elixir]

before seeing the image, I'm guessing #1 will be 2001 based on a cursory glance at the votes...

[baby doll]

Scottie dog... Vertigo.

[Spinal]

#1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/mcdylandog.jpg

[soitgoes...]

#1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/mcdylandog.jpgNice.

[Spinal]

Answer key coming shortly.

[Bosco B Thug]

#2

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/joel_harmon/scottie-280x220-tig-256.gif Vertigo, is that you?

EDIT: Oh wait. Damnit. SCOTTY.

EDIT: See, I totally knew it would be #1 or #2.

[baby doll]

19b is RaidersHow do you get that from bad dates?

[soitgoes...]

How do you get that from bad dates?
Sallah catches the poisoned date before Indy eats it, and says, "Bad dates."

[Spinal]

Answer key:


#19 (tie) Seven Samurai
#19 (tie) Raiders of the Lost Ark - referencing the line "Bad Dates"
#18 Citizen Kane - that is a rosebud
#17 Au Hasard Balthazar - that is Balthazar Getty
#13 (tie) The Thin Red Line
#13 (tie) The Passion of Joan of Arc - that is Joan Jett
#13 (tie) Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
#13 (tie) In the Mood for Love - "In the Mood" was a big hit for Glenn Miller
#12 Play Time
#10 (tie) Ordet - translated as The Word, that is Microsoft Word
#10 (tie) Casablanca - translates to "white house"
#9 Lawrence of Arabia - that is Martin Lawrence
#8 The Conversation - that is a tenor sax, played notably by Harry Caul
#7 Rear Window - the protagonist is crippled by a broken leg
#6 The Empire Strikes Back - that is the Empire State Building
#5 Persona - that is Liv Tyler and Bebe Neuwirth, Liv Ullman and Bibi Andersson star in Bergman's film
#4 8 1/2 - that is REM's video for "Everybody Hurts", which lifts imagery directly from Fellini's film
#3 Mulholland Dr. - a blue key features prominently in Lynch's film
#2 Vertigo - that is a Scottie dog, also the name of Jimmy Stewart's character
#1 2001: A Space Odyssey - that is the avatar for Match Cut member monolith94

[Spinal]

Full results:

2001: A Space Odyssey 117.5
Vertigo 82
Mulholland Dr. 67
8½ 51.5
Persona 50
The Empire Strikes Back 46.5
Rear Window 45
The Conversation 36.5
Lawrence of Arabia 35
Casablanca 34.5
Ordet 34.5
Play Time 34
In the Mood for Love 31.5
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring 31.5
The Passion of Joan of Arc 31.5
The Thin Red Line 31.5
Au Hasard Balthazar 31
Citizen Kane 30
Raiders of the Lost Ark 29.5
Seven Samurai 29.5
Amadeus 28
The Rules of the Game 28
Barry Lyndon 27.5
Hana-bi 26.5
Andrei Rublev 26
Sans soleil 26
The Mirror 25.5
Days of Heaven 25
Dekalog 25
Paris, Texas 25
Tokyo Story 24
Pulp Fiction 22
Rushmore 22
Taxi Driver 22
The 400 Blows 21.5
Eyes Wide Shut 21
Touch of Evil 21
Ran 20.5
The Royal Tenenbaums 20
Dr. Strangelove 19
Winter Light 19
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly 18.5
Naked 18
Chinatown 17.5
Duck Soup 17
L'Avventura 17
Once Upon a Time in the West 17
Sunset Boulevard 17
Breathless 16.5
City Lights 16.5
The Godfather 16.5
Annie Hall 16
Blue Velvet 16
The Apartment 16
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 15.5
The Big Lebowski 15.5
Apocalypse Now 15
Brazil 15
Dead Man 15
Dogville 15
Nostalghia 15
Psycho 15
12 Angry Men 14.5
A Clockwork Orange 14
A Man Escaped 14
Exotica 14
Nights of Cabiria 14
The Shining 14
Yi Yi 13.5
Boogie Nights 13
Punch Drunk Love 13
The Sweet Hereafter 13
Manhattan 12.5
Aguirre, the Wrath of God 12
Goodfellas 12
In a Lonely Place 12
Raging Bull 12
It's a Wonderful Life 11.5
The Son 11.5
Late Spring 11
Network 11
The Bicycle Thief 11
The Third Man 11
Woman in the Dunes 11
Blade Runner 10
Chungking Express 10
JFK 10
Magnolia 10
Stalker 10
Stroszek 10
Tropical Malady 10
Do the Right Thing 9.5
Fanny and Alexander 9.5
Oldboy 9.5
Three Colors: Red 9.5
The Seventh Seal 9
Ikiru 8.5
McCabe and Mrs. Miller 8.5
Breaking the Waves 8
Inland Empire 8
My Life to Live 8
Napoleon 8
Paths of Glory 8
Rosemary's Baby 8
The Grand Illusion 8
The Man Who Planted Trees 8
The Night of the Hunter 8
The Searchers 8
The Wizard of Oz 8
Throne of Blood 8
Metropolis 7.5
Children of Men 7
F For Fake 7
Fargo 7
Once Upon a Time in America 7
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans 7
The Elephant Man 7
Schindler's List 6.5
A.I. 6
Children of Paradise 6
Double Indemnity 6
La Dolce Vita 6
No Country for Old Men 6
Sherlock Jr. 6
Werckmeister Harmonies 5.5
Fantasia 5
Night of the Living Dead 5
Notorious 5
Shadow of a Doubt 5
M 4
His Girl Friday 3.5
King Kong 3.5
Meshes of the Afternoon 3.5
Modern Times 3.5
The Circus 3.5
The Thing 3.5
Ivan the Terrible Part I 3
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington 3
Sullivan's Travels 3
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou 3
Inglourious Basterds 2.5
Jaws 2.5
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari 2.5
The Gold Rush 2.5
L'Atalante 2
Requiem for a Dream 2
The Godfather Part II 2
The Red Shoes 2
A Trip to the Moon
Angels with Dirty Faces
Beauty and the Beast
Bringing Up Baby
Eraserhead
Frankenstein
Freaks
Hiroshima mon amour
I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
Les Vampires
Lost Highway
Make Way for Tomorrow
Nosferatu
Only Angels Have Wings
Pandora's Box
Seven Chances
Stagecoach
Strike
The Battleship Potemkin
The Big Sleep
The General
The Goat
The Last Laugh
The Last Temptation of Christ
The Man With the Movie Camera
The Shop Around the Corner
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
There Will Be Blood
Trouble in Paradise
Ugetsu
Un chien andalou

[Boner M]

Most of these were pretty easy:

19. Seven Samurai (connection: Seven Samurai's pictured)
19. This is It (connections: Michael Jackson, good date movie)
18. War of the Roses (connection: picture of a Rose)
17. Lord of the Flies remake (connection: pic of Au Hasard Balthasar Getty
13. Runaway Train (connection: Train map)
13. The Runaways (connection: pic of Joan Jett, links w/ previous #13)
13. Gymkata (connection: gymnast)
13. The Glenn Miller Story (connection: The Glenn Miller Story)
12. The Soft Skin (connection: softcore, lots of skin)
10. Don't Say a Word (connection: Michael Douglas invented Microsoft Word)
10. Dave (connection: Kevin Kline becomes president, resides in White House)
9. Black Knight (connection: picture of black man)
8. Johnny Guitar (connection: not a saxophone)
7. Leaving Las Vegas (connection: Nic Cage gets plastered)
6. Empire Records (connection: first picture is from Empire Strikes Back, plus I think they went on strike in the '95 flick)
5. Empire Records (connection: Liv Tyler)
4. Mamma Mia (connection: 'Wish they would all stop singing')
3. The Skeleton Key (connection: duh)
2. Domino (connection: Ridley Scottie)
1. Avatar (connection: pic's not loading, but it's an obvious one anyway)

[Spinal]

4. Mamma Mia (connection: 'Wish they would all stop singing')


:lol:

[Watashi]

Empire made the top 10? Nice.

[baby doll]

I guess I'm alright with most of these films.

Spinal's right that the inclusion of The Empire Strikes Back is crazy. Okay, I loved it when I was eleven, but I don't think I'd want to watch it again today. I did see the original Star Wars again about a year and a half ago, and while it was watchable enough, it's nowhere near as good as best films of the directors that Lucas plunders from (Ford, Hawks, Kurosawa). Paradoxically, the constant homages are the most personal thing about these films, and The Lord of the Rings movies, which don't make any explicit film references (at least that I'm aware of), consequently feel completely anonymous. It's not even very distinguished on the level of a big, impersonal Hollywood blockbuster. And while Raiders of the Lost Ark seems to me a superior example of the genre (Spielberg being a much better director than either Lucas or Jackson), I don't find it that great of an achievement. I remember it as being fairly light and breezy, but not Spielberg's best work (I prefer A.I.).

[Watashi]

I guess I'm alright with most of these films.

Spinal's right that the inclusion of The Empire Strikes Back is crazy. Okay, I loved it when I was eleven, but I don't think I'd want to watch it again today. I did see the original Star Wars again about a year and a half ago, and while it was watchable enough, it's nowhere near as good as best films of the directors that Lucas plunders from (Ford, Hawks, Kurosawa).
What if it was called L'Empire Riposte?

[baby doll]

What if it was called L'Empire Riposte?Mediocrity is mediocrity in any language.

[elixir]

I haven't seen Seven Samurai, Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Thin Red Line, Lord of the Rings (well, any of them), Play Time, Ordet, or The Conversation. I suck.

[baby doll]

Just to elaborate slightly, movies like The Empire Strikes Back cost a lot of money to make, and then the studio spends a lot of money on advertising in order to make these films seem important, so that people will put down money to see them. And then the studio makes more money by selling the film to TV stations, which need content for Saturday afternoon dead time. I'm pretty sure that Ghost has been on TV somewhere in the world continuously since the early '90s. But when it comes to the actual art of cinema, I wouldn't put George Lucas in the pantheon with the likes of Yasujiro Ozu, Jean Renoir, Orson Welles, etc.

[baby doll]

I haven't seen Seven Samurai, Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Thin Red Line, Lord of the Rings (well, any of them), Play Time, Ordet, or The Conversation. I suck.If you haven't seen a film by Tati, I'd suggest starting with Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot and Mon oncle, since there's a sort of progression from those films to Playtime.

[elixir]

If you haven't seen a film by Tati, I'd suggest starting with Les Vacances de Monsieur Hulot and Mon oncle, since there's a sort of progression from those films to Playtime.

Yeah, I'd figure I'd just go in chronological order...they are all on my instant queue, just haven't gotten to them yet.

[Watashi]

Just to elaborate slightly, movies like The Empire Strikes Back cost a lot of money to make, and then the studio spends a lot of money on advertising in order to make these films seem important, so that people will put down money to see them. And then the studio makes more money by selling the film to TV stations, which need content for Saturday afternoon dead time. I'm pretty sure that Ghost has been on TV somewhere in the world continuously since the early '90s. But when it comes to the actual art of cinema, I wouldn't put George Lucas in the pantheon with the likes of Yasujiro Ozu, Jean Renoir, Orson Welles, etc.
How dare the studios/directors try to get their audience to see their movie!

A real artist only releases their movie in one theater for one weekend and then makes it impossible to find on home video.

Also, George Lucas didn't direct The Empire Strikes Back.

[baby doll]

How dare the studios/directors try to get their audience to see their movie!

A real artist only releases their movie in one theater for one weekend and then makes it impossible to find on home video.

Also, George Lucas didn't direct The Empire Strikes Back.I know, that's the business of making big-budget, mass entertainment, but as far as the actual film itself is concerned, I don't think Lucas is that great of a filmmaker. It doesn't really matter whether or not he directed the film himself since the end result is equally impersonal. Sure, there are terrific mainstream movies, but the aura around these films as being some kind of cultural milestone is more a matter of studio hype than artistry.

[elixir]

Studio hype alone wouldn't buy its cultural legacy.

I'm not commenting on its quality, but there are reasons beyond hype that it cemented a status in our culture. I'm sure there have been plenty of hyped movies that are now forgotten--isn't everyone looking for the next Star Wars in many ways?

I think it's actually more interesting to discuss what about the movies make them have such a broad appeal. I haven't seen them in a long time (and I don't really have that strong of a desire to return), but I think it can be fruitful to discuss why it's made such a large impact (which I believe is due to more than hype).

[Watashi]

I know, that's the business of making big-budget, mass entertainment, but as far as the actual film itself is concerned, I don't think Lucas is that great of a filmmaker. It doesn't really matter whether or not he directed the film himself since the end result is equally impersonal. Sure, there are terrific mainstream movies, but the aura around these films as being some kind of cultural milestone is more a matter of studio hype than artistry.
Terrence Malick makes studio-funded movies with all star casts and big budgets.

Is he not an artist?

[baby doll]

Terrence Malick makes studio-funded movies with all star casts and big budgets.

Is he not an artist?Sure, but he's doing things stylistically that are far outside the range of a director like Lucas (or Irvin Kershner). In Days of Heaven, nearly every single cut signals a jump in time. Formally, the Star Wars films are incredibly bland.

[elixir]

Terrence Malick makes studio-funded movies with all star casts and big budgets.

Is he not an artist?

I don't think he's saying that. Anyways, that argument is old; Shakespeare worked for money.

[Winston*]

That's a neat list. Haven't seen Au Hau Balthazar or Ordet (have seen Empire Strikes Back)

[Sycophant]

Have you seen it since you were eleven? Or is this just a guess based on your theory that basically any movie made under those conditions can't have any value? I don't trust my opinion of movies from when I was eleven, whether I liked them or disliked them. Nor do I wholly reject them. To evaluate a film I haven't seen in almost 20 years, I need to actually rewatch it.

Not that I'm saying you'd like Empire. I'm almost sure you wouldn't.

[elixir]

The one film I'm most surprised by is The Thin Red Line...I never thought it was SO highly regarded (as in top 20 of all time regarded!). I haven't seen it though. I've actually never seen a Malick film. :D

[baby doll]

Have you seen it since you were eleven? Or is this just a guess based on your theory that basically any movie made under those conditions can't have any value? I don't trust my opinion of movies from when I was eleven, whether I liked them or disliked them. Nor do I wholly reject them. To evaluate a film I haven't seen in almost 20 years, I need to actually rewatch it.

Not that I'm saying you'd like Empire. I'm almost sure you wouldn't.I saw A New Hope again recently, and it's hard for me to imagine that the sequel wouldn't be more of the same. However, if some one wants to make the case for Kershner as a metteur en scène, I'd love to hear your arguments.

[Sycophant]

Kershner's Empire Strikes Back is a notably better film in almost every way when put up against Lucas's Star Wars. He's a stronger director and he makes a better and--yes, I would say--more personal film. That's coming from someone who just watched all three films (in their original theatrical cuts) for the first time in about a decade.

That's all I really wanna say about it to you.

[StanleyK]

These are some pretty surprising results; in fact, I've bolded the ones that I particularly didn't expect to see:

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey - ****
2. Vertigo - N2R
3. Mulholland Drive - ****
4. 8½ - ****
5. Persona - ****
6. The Empire Strikes Back - ****
7. Rear Window - N2R
8. The Conversation
9. Lawrence of Arabia - N2R
10t. Casablanca - N2R, but probably overrated.
10t. Ordet - N2R
12. Play Time - **
13t. In the Mood for Love - ****
13t. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - N2R
13t. The Passion of Joan of Arc - ****
13t. The Thin Red Line - ****
17. Au Hasard Balthazar - ****
18. Citizen Kane - ****
19t. Raiders of the Lost Ark - ****
19t. The Seven Samurai - N2R

[StanleyK]

And as transmogrifier said, it's interesting to compare it to the top 20 from a recent compilation of top 100 lists (without restrictions):



1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Citizen Kane
3. Mulholland Drive
4. Rear Window
5. Apocalypse Now
6. Vertigo
7. City Lights
8. Taxi Driver
9. The Big Lebowski
10. Pulp Fiction
11. The Passion of Joan of Arc
12. In the Mood for Love
13. 8½
14. The Empire Strikes Back
15. Playtime
16. Blade Runner
17. Ikiru
18. The Good the Bad and the Ugly
19. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
20. Casablanca

(Full top 100) (http://www.match-cut.org/showpost.php?p=156220&postcount=889)

[Spinal]

I watched Empire Strikes Back a little over a year ago and this is what I wrote:


Rewatched The Empire Strikes Back. Kind of disappointing to see how much of the film's lasting value is technical. The lighting is probably the film's stand-out quality. All that stuff on the cloud city looks really cool. The effects are great. Yoda is refreshingly puppet-like and funny. Boba Fett is kind of exciting.

The dialogue though ... mostly not good. The Han-Leia lovey stuff is grating apart from Han's touching farewell. Yoda's training of Luke is kind of dopey and silly. But what aggravates me most about these films is that there's so many moments that don't make sense when you watch them knowing about the identity of Vader's children. For example, how does Vader not know that the Millennium Falcon is hiding on the Star Destroyer when Leia is inside? Can't he 'sense' those close to him? You may say that he does know and that he allows them to escape so that Luke can be trapped. But in that case, the film lies to us. It tells us that Boba Fett is the one who tracks them down. And later, Vader is in the same room with Leia, but there is no real interaction with them at all. Why? Because it's not time to reveal the secret yet. Or ... this part of the film was written before they knew there was going to be a connection. That's what it feels like. Great films are able to couch their secrets and still play fair with the audience. I don't think these films do. The family connection feels like such a sloppy afterthought, even with three prequels made to justify the back story. I have said it before, but I'll say it again: I would have loved to see what these films would be like if they had thought to construct a scenario in which Leia developed her own powers. Whose side would she take? It would have been so much more exciting than her role as Han Solo love interest/occasional blaster shooter.

At any rate, I'm now of the opinion that the original Star Wars -- with its wealth of invention, with its simple yet well-crafted drama of good vs. evil, with its heavy dose of Alec Guinness, with its gloriously explosive finale -- is the best film of the series.

[Kurosawa Fan]

For example, how does Vader not know that the Millennium Falcon is hiding on the Star Destroyer when Leia is inside? Can't he 'sense' those close to him? You may say that he does know and that he allows them to escape so that Luke can be trapped. But in that case, the film lies to us. It tells us that Boba Fett is the one who tracks them down. And later, Vader is in the same room with Leia, but there is no real interaction with them at all. Why? Because it's not time to reveal the secret yet.

I think a reasonable explanation for this is that she hasn't developed any knowledge or use of the force. Vader can hone in on anyone who is using the force, and Leia doesn't. He knew that Luke was his son (last name kind of gave that away) but any time he looks inside Luke he's feeling the way that Luke is using the force.

Totally agree with you on Leia developing her powers and becoming involved in the story, but I still appreciate what's on the screen. It's not a film that should be in the top twenty, but I still consider it great.

[Raiders]

I'm not clear on why seemingly out-of-the-blue developments later in the series should negatively impact earlier films unless we're evaluating the overall series and not the individual films.

[Bosco B Thug]

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey - ****
2. Vertigo - ****
3. Mulholland Drive - ***1/2
4. 8½ - N2R
5. Persona - ****
6. The Empire Strikes Back - N2R
7. Rear Window - ****
8. The Conversation - ***1/2
9. Lawrence of Arabia - n/a
10t. Casablanca - ***1/2
10t. Ordet - n/a
12. Play Time - n/a
13t. In the Mood for Love - N2R
13t. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - N2R
13t. The Passion of Joan of Arc - n/a
13t. The Thin Red Line - ****
17. Au Hasard Balthazar - N2R
18. Citizen Kane - ****
19t. Raiders of the Lost Ark - ***1/2
19t. The Seven Samurai - N2R

[Watashi]

I'm not clear on why seemingly out-of-the-blue developments later in the series should negatively impact earlier films unless we're evaluating the overall series and not the individual films.
Yeah, trying to connect all the movies together will just give you a headache. As individual films, they are all sublime.

[Ezee E]

Ordet and The Conversation surprised me the most.

[Yxklyx]

The Thin Red Line surprises me the most. Honestly, I can't remember a single thing about that movie - it's a war film right?

Persona, Ordet and The Conversation are all good films - wouldn't have expected them here though. Interesting to see the exclusion of films like The Godfather and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. How many people voted in this consensus?

[Pop Trash]

Forget it, Yxklyx. It's Match-Cut.