Cars 2

[Dukefrukem]

Where they going with this? Secret agents??

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[KK2.0]

the background is a race around the world, maybe it involves a mission in between? it's probably the first time i'm not excited for a new Pixar.

concept art

http://media.monstersandcritics.com/movies/cars2_1/images/group1/0001.jpg

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[Ezee E]

Maybe that "highway drive" is just extended even longer this time...

[Dukefrukem]

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2009/Cars2Pos.jpg

[Dukefrukem]

oFTfAdauCOo

[Winston*]

This is going to get better reviews than Speed Racer and that sucks.

[Lazlo]

I just can't suspend my disbelief. There are too many weird things going on here to enjoy this shit.

[Irish]

Jesus, that looks awful.

Good thing Lasseter is in charge of Disney now and has put a stop to sequelitis.

Wait ...

[Fezzik]

I'm stunned at how awful that looks.

I will reserve judgment, as Pixar trailers are usually pretty underwhelming, but egads, guys, that looks like direct to DVD crap.

[Dukefrukem]

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[megladon8]

What the hell?

[number8]

Holy shit. They basically just took the script for another Larry the Cable Guy movie and made it animated.

[Kurosawa Fan]

It's like Pixar is actively trying to make the worst movie they can think of, just to see if people will see it based solely on their name.

[megladon8]

It's like Pixar is actively trying to make the worst movie they can think of, just to see if people will see it based solely on their name.


Or maybe they want to see if Wats will still love it?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Even he can't defend that.

[Watashi]

I'm probably not even going to see it.

[EyesWideOpen]

I thought Cars was a great movie and I hate cars and Larry the Cable Guy. The second one looks fine also I don't understand the hate.

[[ETM]]

I also really liked Cars. Though I love cars, I had no idea who Larry the Cable Guy was, and that he had anything to do with the film before I saw it. Never bothered me. The sequel seems unnecessary, but no more than the hate for the original film.

[Henry Gale]

I mean... I got a free pass for this with the blu-ray for The Incredibles... but I'll still need to convince other people to see it with me, which seems like it'll be more and more difficult with every new trailer that comes out. Come to think of it, the last (and only) Pixar movie I didn't see in theatres was the first Cars.

Mind you, I've found the full length clips they've released to be much better, so maybe I'm over exaggerating. But honestly, even the music choices in that trailer are confusing and horrible.

[Bosco B Thug]

This will be acceptable. Looks imaginative, more imaginative than Kung Fu Panda 2. PIXAR can do no wrong!

*spray paints "Viva la PIXAR" across Match-Cut's edifice*

[Spinal]

But honestly, even the music choices in that trailer are confusing and horrible.

At the risk of stating the obvious, it's a song by The Cars.

[DavidSeven]

That was the worst two minutes of anything I've seen in a long time.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Poop jokes. Excellent.

[Henry Gale]

At the risk of stating the obvious, it's a song by The Cars.

Damn, you're right. I didn't even recognize it. Not sure who's covering it there, but it sounds no better than Rascal Flatts' version of "Life Is A Highway" from the first movie.

Plus, it just doesn't fit at all. At least the last trailer had Gnarls Barkley's "Run", which works because that song sounds like it could fit in a fun spy movie.

[Bosco B Thug]

It looks like a dedicatedly irreverent riff upon the original, which is much preferable over some sort of "continuation" - aka retread - of the story (ala what Kung Fu Panda 2 seems like) - or another paean to America or something.

[Winston*]

Get off Kung Fu Panda 2's case Bosco B Thug!

[Winston*]

I will see this movie if it explains how cars reproduce in this universe. The thought keeps me up at night.

[Bosco B Thug]

Get off Kung Fu Panda 2's case Bosco B Thug! Why should I, as if Kung Fu Panda 2 is a force of good? It's not a force of good. :P

Cars 2 looks like it can possibly be. I won't say it looks good, but IMO it looks much less like a franchise-motivated formula flick.

[number8]

Poop jokes. Excellent.

Hey, Toy Story 3 did it.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Hey, Toy Story 3 did it.

I didn't think too much of that movie.

[Henry Gale]

Sometime in the last month I realized that the version of "You Might Think" I thought sounded terrible in that trailer was actually done by Weezer... which... saddened me even more since I actually (still) like them. I know they've always had the Ric Ocasek connection, so it makes sense that they would be the ones the cover this, but whoever produced it just made Rivers' voice sound completely unrecognizable (even though I've heard hundreds of songs and demos that he's sang on over the years) and gave the whole absolutely no power or personality to the other instruments at all. I miss their fuzzy, sludgy guitars.

But whatever, it's a cover for a kids movie, and I guess I prefer Pixar choosing someone like them instead of them getting Rascal Flatts to cover a Tom Cochrane song again, even if this is the end result.

[Watashi]

39% on the tomatometer and still dropping.

Poor poor Pixar.

[Kurosawa Fan]

39% on the tomatometer and still dropping.

Poor poor Pixar.

Not only that, but an average rating of 5.7 out of 10. Some of the original grades of those being counted "fresh" aren't exactly positive. EW gave it a B-, Arizona Republic a 3/5, etc. Sounds about right.

[Spinal]

Pixar has definitely been in decline in recent years. Hopefully Brave pulls them out of it.

[Mara]

Pixar has definitely been in decline in recent years. Hopefully Brave pulls them out of it.

WALL-E was completely brilliant.

Both Up and Toy Story 3 were good-not-great.

Surely we can all agree to MORE BRAD BIRD, amirite?

[Spinal]

WALL-E was completely brilliant.

Both Up and Toy Story 3 were good-not-great.

Surely we can all agree to MORE BRAD BIRD, amirite?

Brad Bird is a quality director. I'm thinking of the last 6 features. If Cars 2 is indeed a stinker like the critics are saying, then that's 4 out of 6 that in my estimation are not good films.

[megladon8]

Apparently the Cars 2 video game is all kinds of awesome.

[Spinal]

By the way, the last time Pixar didn't win the Best Animated Film Oscar was the year Cars came out.

[[ETM]]

By the way, the last time Pixar didn't win the Best Animated Film Oscar was the year Cars came out.

It also made over $5 billion in merchandise sales alone, which I believe is a record.

[Irish]

Pixar has definitely been in decline in recent years.

I read recently that Lasseter wanted to do Toy Story 3 back in 1999, but Pixar had a 5 picture deal with Disney and sequels didn't count. So Steve Jobs said no.

Now they seem more unfocused. More sequels coming up (Monsters Inc 2) and a live action film (!?) to boot.

The Disney buyout might end up killing them.

[number8]

Pixar is not doing live-action films. They're just loaning their directors to Disney.

[Ezee E]

Surely we can all agree to MORE BRAD BIRD, amirite?

Rep whore. :lol:

[Watashi]

Rep whore. :lol:
I gave it to her.

I gave it good.

[Watashi]

Brad Bird is a quality director. I'm thinking of the last 6 features. If Cars 2 is indeed a stinker like the critics are saying, then that's 4 out of 6 that in my estimation are not good films.
Ignore the silly man, people.

[Watashi]

Pixar has definitely been in decline in recent years. Hopefully Brave pulls them out of it.
Toy Story - 100%
A Bug's Life - 91%
Toy Story 2 - 100%
Monster's Inc. - 95%
Finding Nemo - 98%
The Incredibles - 97%
Cars - 74%
Ratatouille - 96%
WALL-E - 96%
Up - 98%
Toy Story 3 - 99%
Cars 2 - 38%

[Winston*]

See Spinal? Critics liked those movies. That means your opinion of them is wrong.

[Spinal]

Yeah, not sure what the point of that is. I tried to make it clear that I was simply speaking for myself.

[Watashi]

Yeah, not sure what the point of that is. I tried to make it clear that I was simply speaking for myself.
The "has definitely" part of your sentence made that this decline was somehow the general consensus when it is clearly not.

Your opinions are silly.

[Spinal]

The "has definitely" part of your sentence made that this decline was somehow the general consensus when it is clearly not.


Your logical conclusions are silly.

[Winston*]

I wonder if the failure of this film will make critics take a less "Pixar has done it again!" approach with their future movies.

[Derek]

I wonder if the failure of this film will make critics take a less "Pixar has done it again!" approach with their future movies.

I'm just hoping it will make some of the original 74% of critics who gave a pass to the first Cars apologize.

[Mara]

Rep whore. :lol:

I know you are, but what am I?

[DavidSeven]

Actually, Spinal summed it up quite accurately. I thought Pixar reached a pinnacle with WALL-E, but other than that, I see a bunch of clunkers from the point the original Cars came out (coincidentally (?), the same year as the Disney takeover).

[D_Davis]

IMO, they've been on a steady decline since Toy Story.

[megladon8]

I still think Ratatouille is the best Pixar film.

[Pop Trash]

I still think Ratatouille is the best Pixar film.

Oh yeah, me too. That was the first one since Toy Story 2 I really loved. Ratatouille > Finding Nemo. I do think Up and Toy Story 3 had their highs and lows. In retrospect, Toy Story 3 might be a little better than Up.

[megladon8]

Oh yeah, me too. That was the first one since Toy Story 2 I really loved. Ratatouille > Finding Nemo. I do think Up and Toy Story 3 had their highs and lows. In retrospect, Toy Story 3 might be a little better than Up.


Oh I thought Up! was magnificent.

But Ratatouille hit me on several levels, and I found both its animation and story to be the most charming Pixar has produced.

[Watashi]

IMO, they've been on a steady decline since Toy Story.
Dude. See WALL-E.

[Spinal]

Well, Ebert liked it. (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110622/REVIEWS/110629995)

[Mara]

Personally, for me, it would be a toss-up between Monsters, Inc and The Incredibles.

But Cars is the only one I actively disliked.

[Ezee E]

While I was watching "Cars 2," an elusive nostalgia tugged at my mind. No, I wasn't remembering Pixar's original "Cars" from 2006. This was something more deeply buried, and finally, in the middle of one of the movie's sensational grand prix races, it came to me: I was sitting on the floor of my bedroom many years ago, with some toy cars lined up in front of me, while I used my hands to race them around on the floor and in the air, meanwhile making that noise kids make by squooshing spit in their mouths.

Ebert with the reasoning of why Cars 2 is going to make soooo much money despite critics hating on it.

I liked Cars 1 for the most part, minus that dumb dumb highway scene.

[lovejuice]

Not a big fan of their recent efforts either. But I still have faith in Pixar, and think a few bad movies in their resume will do them good.

[Fezzik]

I still think Ratatouille is the best Pixar film.

Dammit, Meg, I've been agreeing with you a lot, lately.

[transmogrifier]

Toy Story 3 was the best of the Toy Stories and Wall-E is the second-best Pixar film (after Finding Nemo), so they are doing okay at the moment. One dud does not a trend make...yet.

But then I'm the crazy person who thinks the two Bird Pixar films are among the worst.

[[ETM]]

But Cars is the only one I actively disliked.

Was it the cars with faces? Voice actors? Because in the end, it's a nice little heartwarming Pixar story through and through. It just seems that not enough people had seen this Disney gem, that I used to watch a lot as a kid:
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[Morris Schæffer]

Though they both contained a few memorable sequences, Up and Wall-E were rather dissapointing, especially the former. It sort of went nowhere interesting once it took flight and to a lesser extent, I think that applies to Wall-E as well. The Incredibles, Ratatouille were great fun, but Toy Story 3 was masterful.

[Mara]

;355417']Was it the cars with faces? Voice actors? Because in the end, it's a nice little heartwarming Pixar story through and through.

I thought the characters were one-dimensional and tiresome, and I could not have been more bored with the story. I found the whole thing frustrating.

As for Up, I thought it started off great; interesting and wrenching, and then two-thirds of the way through I felt like it had just become a string of meaningless action sequences. Not bad, but not the greatest.

I think A Bug's Life gets a bad rap. It's not as ambitious as most of the Pixar films, but it's fun and sweet.

[EyesWideOpen]

The only Pixar I actively dislike is Finding Nemo. I'd probably put Wall-E and Ratatouille at the top.

[[ETM]]

I thought the characters were one-dimensional and tiresome, and I could not have been more bored with the story. I found the whole thing frustrating.

See, that's what I don't get at all. I really like cars, and racing, and I thought it was a splendid ode to the "old ways" and Americana in general, the characters were no better or worse than in any Pixar film, and the performances were spot on. I loved the subtlety of Paul Newman in his final acting role, loved how they got legendary Richard Petty to voice The King, who has the appearance of Petty's iconic 1970 Plymouth Firebird. I loved the million little winks and nudges that just fly off the screen and should tickle any car fan's fancy.

It just reminds me how there's one thing I can never agree on with my girlfriend - she can't tell a Fiat from a Toyota. They all look virtually the same to her, and I find that extremely bewildering. I suppose she wouldn't have gotten 1% of what I got from Cars. Perhaps that's what turned so many adults off, and that's where Lasseter went wrong. It's just that the kids love their car toys, and Cars sold tonnage.

[D_Davis]

I'm holding out for Brave.

I'm just hoping they dial back on the humor. I'd really like to see Pixar make a serious genre picture. But it sounds like they already have their trio of slapstick joke makers picked out for that film.

I don't know.

I can't say that Pixar makes bad films, they just don't ever speak to me in any way. I recently watched Up!, and while it was sweet, funny, and entertaining, it didn't make me feel anything after it was over. This is in direct contrast to animated films like Mind Game, Tekkonkinkreet, and Nausicaa, which always make me feel a lot.

I guess I'm just not on the Pixar wavelength or something.

I did mildly enjoy Monsters, Inc. though. That had some of my favorite Pixar moments.

[number8]

I'm just hoping they dial back on the humor. I'd really like to see Pixar make a serious genre picture.

I don't think this is gonna happen. Because as much as the critics like to tout that Pixar is for adults as well as kids, John Lasseter has never made it ambiguous that as a studio their goal is to make enjoyable family films that little kids can grow up with. The only difference, and the reason they're so lauded, is that they don't think four year olds are morons like other American animation studios.

[D_Davis]

The only difference, and the reason they're so lauded, is that they don't think four year olds are morons like other American animation studios.

This is true, and I commend them for it.

Their films are not stupid, poorly made, or pandering.

I just don't like them.

[Mara]

...but, theoretically, couldn't you have a serious genre picture that was also family fare? Without humor?

The Iron Giant wasn't funny. And by not-funny, I mean it broke my heart into itty bitty pieces.

[number8]

Iron Giant has plenty of jokes.

[D_Davis]

Yes - the Iron Giant is my favorite American animated film. While it contains funny moments, it's not overly-goofy or funny, nor does it have the character(s) there only for humor. It's family-friendly, but still quite serious.

I don't mind jokes. I like funny moments in serious genre films.

However, I've never liked how Pixar/Disney/Dreamworks tend to throw in those slap-stick, jokey characters that are there only for the broad humor.

[number8]

I certainly remember it differently. There's a lot of goofy setpieces in the film, like the whole the hand creeping around the house and the Iron Giant playing in the junkyard thing. I think what we're talking about here is naturalistic humor performed by humans versus slapstick run-arounds by toys. In that regard, I would say that The Incredibles' sense of humor is very similar to the Iron Giant's.

[D_Davis]

Like Mind Game. This is a fairly serious genre film, but there are funny moments peppered throughout. These moments are in context to the narrative, and there isn't a "Jar-Jar Binks" character who is the source of the jokes. There are simply light, whimsical moments that break up the action and drama.

I'd love to see Pixar do something like that. Will they ever? Probably not. They don't need to because I am clearly in the minority.

I don't need or want something bleak.

I would LOVE to see a Pixar adaptation of something written by George MacDonald or Lord Dunsany. I think that would be pretty amazing.

[NickGlass]

Oh, I hope this one is all about how Disney believes in forming friendship and small business, too!

I would be very curious to see the socio-geographical response to Cars and Cars 2, in contrast with other Pixar films. I think the target audience is quite obvious.

[D_Davis]

I certainly remember it differently. There's a lot of goofy setpieces in the film, like the whole the hand creeping around the house and the Iron Giant playing in the junkyard thing. I think what we're talking about here is naturalistic humor performed by humans versus slapstick run-arounds by toys. In that regard, I would say that The Incredibles' sense of humor is very similar to the Iron Giant's.

There are definitely funny moments in The Iron Giant, but for some reason it just feels different to me. I can't exactly say why.

I think it has to do with the comedy being more in context to the narrative. The creeping hand sequence. It is funny, but it also serves a narrative purpose and it builds tension. It uses humor as something more than just a silly line of dialog or something for children to laugh at.

[Watashi]

Yes - the Iron Giant is my favorite American animated film. While it contains funny moments, it's not overly-goofy or funny, nor does it have the character(s) there only for humor. It's family-friendly, but still quite serious.

I don't mind jokes. I like funny moments in serious genre films.

However, I've never liked how Pixar/Disney/Dreamworks tend to throw in those slap-stick, jokey characters that are there only for the broad humor.
Have you seen the Kung Fu Panda films, D?

They are so up your alley.

[Ezee E]

I mentioned this in the FD, but I'll say it again here.

I'm waiting for Pixar to do something as awesome as the Pink Elephants scene in Dumbo. I should really rewatch that whole movie.

[Spinal]

As if to prove that certain groups have escaped the protection of political correctness, the Southern-fried Mater is dumb, excitable and puppy-dog loyal, his idiot-savant automotive expertise grounded in humble, blue-collar simplicity. I doubt anyone will protest much, but Pixar has now found its redneck Jar-Jar Binks. Such a proud moment.

Link (http://movies.nytimes.com/2011/06/24/movies/pixars-cars-2-with-larry-the-cable-guy-and-owen-wilson-review.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.mc_id=MO-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-PC2-062411-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=click)

[D_Davis]

Have you seen the Kung Fu Panda films, D?

They are so up your alley.

Actually no, but I do want to. I've heard pretty good things.

[Morris Schæffer]

Actually no, but I do want to. I've heard pretty good things.

Weird. I'd argue they were totally not your thing based on your previous posts.

[eternity]

;355417']Was it the cars with faces? Voice actors? Because in the end, it's a nice little heartwarming Pixar story through and through. It just seems that not enough people had seen this Disney gem, that I used to watch a lot as a kid:
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I read the title as "Susie and the Little Blue Corpse" and was immediately intrigued.

Anyway, yeah, that was good.

[megladon8]

I read the title as "Susie and the Little Blue Corpse" and was immediately intrigued.

Anyway, yeah, that was good.


I did the same thing, and was going to post it.

"Susie and the Little Blue Corpse". Hmm. Is this the direction Pixar is taking with their animated shorts now?

[Arthur Seaton]

Oh, I hope this one is all about how Disney believes in forming friendship and small business, too!

I would be very curious to see the socio-geographical response to Cars and Cars 2, in contrast with other Pixar films. I think the target audience is quite obvious.

It ain't Match Cut.
Proof: This topic is still in the Upcoming Film Emporium as of Sunday, June 26th.

[Ezee E]

It ain't Match Cut.
Proof: This topic is still in the Upcoming Film Emporium as of Sunday, June 26th.
Nobody has seen it.

[[ETM]]

Nobody has seen it.

Yet it made over $68 million. Life goes on.

[Arthur Seaton]

Nobody has seen it.
Not even Wats? I'm disappointed in you, Pixar boy.

[Henry Gale]

Alright... this movie isn't completely awful by any means, but it definitely feels like the most poorly scripted, rushed final product Pixar has released to date. It's pretty fun here and there, but it becomes thinner and thinner as a complete movie by the time the credits roll, and the end result is something that just ends up making the original seem like much more of a perfectly fine example of what the studio does by comparison.

I didn't mind Mater very much in the first movie, probably because he was used as a supporting sidekick character that was there to actually help push the arc of the main character, while still having him make his impact in small doses, but in Cars 2... he definitely started to annoy the shit out of me after a while. Anything that strictly sticks to the spy stuff, escaping Mater's influence, particularly the opening scene, is pretty fantastic, and arguably more inventive and fun than most actual spy films these days. It's just a shame those aspects seem to lose steam and genuine inspiration over the course of it, and even when it comes to other major aspects of it like the international racing sequences and all the beautifully realized locations they put them in, it all still manages to get brought down by the excruciatingly one-note comedic elements of Mater and how they wrap him up in all of the action. By the time the second race rolled around, I really started to wish that they had found a way to better merge the weight and tension of Lightning McQueen's storyline with the espionage threads, instead of how it's mainly crafted as Mater's movie, with special guest stars Owen Wilson and John Turturro racing now and then.

If this were an animated sequel from any other studio, I doubt that I or most other people would care, and I could point a finger at Pixar for side-lining their artistic integrity here, since the original movie set record-breaking merchandising sales of several billions of dollars and anything they made was going to work financially, but I will say that this sequel does make a legitimate attempt to considerably shaking up the dynamics of the original film for something much larger and busier with much a different tone and bigger stakes than the first, but all in all, it's just a shame that the final product here feels as simple as it does.

The whole thing feels almost like an early draft that hadn't quite found a way of fully clicking yet, but with some great raw elements still on display here and there. And even if it had just been messy and consistently entertaining, I would probably have found a way to enjoy myself, but it's just padded with way too much more fish-out-of-water, "you know you're a redneck when..." type of humour that doesn't work, both on its own, and really with the rest of the movie either, and its influence on the majority of the movie definitely outweighs the good.

** or **1/2

[Henry Gale]

This is going to get better reviews than Speed Racer and that sucks.

Well see, at least this didn't quite happen.

Also, the Toy Story Toon before the movie is pretty funny and lovely. I'm looking forward to more of them over time (the next one is going to be with The Muppets, right?), but at the same time, it sort of made me irrationally wish that Pixar could make enough new short films to fill an entire movie's length or something, even if it wasn't a theatrically presented thing. Like, I know they have another one coming up (the fishing-themed one), but I don't know when we're going to see that, and just having a Toy Story made me sort of miss having something completely original beforehand, especially before a sequel to another one of their movies.

[Ezee E]

;356065']Yet it made over $68 million. Life goes on.
If only it were the Match Cut Box Office that mattered.

[Watashi]

Not even Wats? I'm disappointed in you, Pixar boy.
Eh, I'll see it eventually.

[Fezzik]

Nobody has seen it.

I consider myself a second Pixar Boy (like Wat's apprentice or something) and I really have no desire to see this.

I told my friend it would be like going to see a world-class opera diva perform songs by Katy Perry. They'd probably make it more palatable, but it would still be awkward and somewhat embarrassing.

[Henry Gale]

Guys, it's not that bad. It's just a shame that it's not too great either.

[[ETM]]

Jeff Gordon and Lewis Hamilton are playing racers in the film, and they even put a Yugo in there:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/sf_anime/Cars2Yugo.jpg

[Sxottlan]

Between this and Transformers 3, this has been a pretty frustrating weekend at the movies for me.

[Henry Gale]

Between this and Transformers 3, this has been a pretty frustrating weekend at the movies for me.

Yeah, I saw both just a few days apart during the week, and both times I left the theatre with the same sort of mixed feelings. Both have some really good stuff in them, but they also run into similar problems of being brought down by bad comic relief (with one of them even letting it sit in as the main character), failure to build compelling characters, and a complete lack of consistent tone or effective narrative momentum.

Not to mention that I had headaches and slight pain in my eyes after both of them. So of course, the two movies this year that I most admired the use of 3D in were the ones that I physically suffered for afterwards. It's a good thing there's no other movies I actually care to see in 3D this summer...

[Spinal]

Between this and Transformers 3, this has been a pretty frustrating weekend at the movies for me.

I gotta go with some tough love here and suggest that you brought this on yourself.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Funny, my wife decided to give me a break and take my five-year-old to this next weekend. My reward? I get to take my ten-year-old to Transformers 3. :|

[Ezee E]

Funny, my wife decided to give me a break and take my five-year-old to this next weekend. My reward? I get to take my ten-year-old to Transformers 3. :|
Skipped right over Cars 2 even?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Skipped right over Cars 2 even?

My oldest? He wants to see it, but he'd rather see Transformers 3. Whatever movie wins, I lose.

[Ezee E]

My oldest? He wants to see it, but he'd rather see Transformers 3. Whatever movie wins, I lose.
What ages are they again?

I'm trying to think of when my dad started letting my brother and I go to movies on our own while he went off to see his own movie at around the same time.

It was around the time of Good Burger and The Brady Bunch Movie.... I understand why.

[Watashi]

My oldest? He wants to see it, but he'd rather see Transformers 3. Whatever movie wins, I lose.
From the stuff I've read about Transformers 3, I can't imagine how some of the bigoted humor would be appropriate for a 10-year old.

[Watashi]

What ages are they again?

I'm trying to think of when my dad started letting my brother and I go to movies on our own while he went off to see his own movie at around the same time.

It was around the time of Good Burger and The Brady Bunch Movie.... I understand why.
First movie I saw on my own without my parents was Anaconda.

[Ezee E]

I was 12 for Brady Bunch Movie...

[Kurosawa Fan]

Our city isn't exactly safe, as I've chronicled to death, so I'm not letting him go to a movie by himself at his age. I'll take one for the team.

As for the humor Wats, I hope I've done my job as a parent and he'll understand that while bigotry exists, it isn't something he should participate in nor condone. I doubt Transformers 3 will have a lasting effect beyond the first ten years of his upbringing, and if it does, I'm not much of a parent. If it's as objectionable as you're making it out to be, we'll discuss it after the movie is over. Thank you for the warning.

[Sxottlan]

I gotta go with some tough love here and suggest that you brought this on yourself.

I hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

It wasn't as bad as a July 4th several years ago when I saw both Wanted and Hancock on the same day. *shudder*

[baby doll]

My oldest? He wants to see it, but he'd rather see Transformers 3. Whatever movie wins, I lose.There are advantages to never letting your kids out of the house Dogtooth-style.