The Marvel/Sony Superhero Movies Thread

[Dukefrukem]

Did he post these?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/555/original/capambig1.jpg?1296759341

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/captainamericaempirenew2small. jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/captainamericaempirenew3small. jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/captainamericaempirenew4small. jpg
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/captainamericaempirenew5small. jpg

[bac0n]

Kay, that picture is bullshit. A smudge on his shield? NO WAY.

:pritch:

[megladon8]

There is so much win in that costume....

[number8]

Shrug.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/02/capmovieposter.jpg

[Ezee E]

It's like they cropped the Avengers poster already.

[megladon8]

Why shrug?

That's pretty cool. Love the muted colours.

[number8]

I hate the tagline in front of it. I wish it wasn't covering him up like that.

I do like this trend of Marvel's that poses the actors in promo images to mimic contemporary artists. Adi Granov drew some of the best Iron Man poses, and it goes the same for Steve Epting.

http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=1042&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=8112257

[megladon8]

Eh. I actually like that text better than it just saying CAPTAIN AMERICA somewhere.


I like it. I'd put it in my frame rotation.

[Dukefrukem]

I know nothing about CA. Does he avenge something?

[megladon8]

I know nothing about CA. Does he avenge something?


Nah he just waves a flag and calls anybody who isn't American a "commie terrorist".

[number8]

That's why it's a nonsense tagline. Avenge what?

To be fair, it's been a very long running joke in the comics that the Avengers don't really avenge anything. Even Stan Lee admits it's silly.

[megladon8]

That's why it's a nonsense tagline. Avenge what?


Isn't it pretty clear that it's tying it into The Avengers?

[number8]

Well, it's a reference to the fact that the name of the movie is "The First Avenger." It's still a nonsense tagline when it's a verb.

It's like releasing a poster for a new X-Files movie with Mulder standing next to a cabinet and it just says "FILE."

[megladon8]

It's like releasing a poster for a new X-Files movie with Mulder standing next to a cabinet and it just says "FILE."


I actually think this would be pretty awesome :lol:

[Watashi]

http://www.slashfilm.com/captain-america-super-bowl-commercial/

Captain America footage.

Looks good.

[Fezzik]

I have to admit, the CA spot during the Super Bowl surprised me. I'm actually really looking forward to this now.

Very convincing on the "scrawny Steve Rogers" CGI.

[TGM]

Captain America is quickly rising as one of my most anticipated films of the year.

[Dukefrukem]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/578/original/Untitled.jpg?1297041086

[megladon8]

*drool*

[Henry Gale]

I thought the head replacement on the deflated Evans body looked really bad and that one shot of Red Skull just came off looking like an expensive Halloween mask to me.

Otherwise, not going to write it off just yet. It still feels like there's still potential, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being the weakest of the counterpart films going into The Avengers after this summer finishes off the team's solo movies.

[Acapelli]

i thought the skinny steve looked great

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7537/86719800.jpg

hell yes, howling commandos

[Ivan Drago]

Anticipation level skyrocketed. Red Skull looks awesome!

[Sxottlan]

CA looks like it could be interesting, but I have zero expectations for this one.

[Morris Schæffer]

So cool that he's gonna shoot up nazis. Love the WW2 setting. Here's hoping they make the most of it.

Who are the howling commandos btw?

[number8]

hell yes, howling commandos

Neal McDonough as Dum Dum Dugan is just perfect.

[Grouchy]

So cool that he's gonna shoot up nazis. Love the WW2 setting. Here's hoping they make the most of it.

Who are the howling commandos btw?
Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Fury_and_his_Howling_Comm andos)

[number8]

Cap prequel comic. (https://subscriptions.marvel.com/digitalcomics/view_white.htm?iid=19142)

Not too wild on the Bucky backstory...

[bac0n]

I dunno. I thought the trailer was something of a missed opportunity to play up on the legend of CA, play up on the Greatest Generation and patriotic themes he embodies so well. Instead we got random action scenes and a more or less standard issue by-the-numbers trailer. I'll need to revisit, but that's what my impression was. Still pumped for the movie tho.

[Ezee E]

I dunno. I thought the trailer was something of a missed opportunity to play up on the legend of CA, play up on the Greatest Generation and patriotic themes he embodies so well. Instead we got random action scenes and a more or less standard issue by-the-numbers trailer. I'll need to revisit, but that's what my impression was. Still pumped for the movie tho.
I can see that. But it's hard to get an effective story/legend told in thirty seconds. I imagine the first full trailer will do just that.

[Morris Schæffer]

Yeah, this should definitely have patriotic cheese emanating from every stinkin' pore. :)

[megladon8]

I like that it seems to be very colourful and pulpy.

VERY cool.

And yeah, for a 30 second trailer, I thought it gave a good feel for the movie. Hopefully the full 2:30 theatrical trailer will give us a taste of how the story will pan out.

[Skitch]

I'd like to see some posters and tv spots done in the "uncle sam wants you"/patriotic/Staship Troopers theme. That would be cool. Maybe even a news reel style spot with Cap running around punching Nazi's and giving a thumbs up to the camera. :)

[megladon8]

I just really hope that the creators didn't completely miss the point and purpose of Captain America.

If it turns into a flag-waving, "anyone who ain't American is a commie nazi!" movie, I'll be very, very disappoint.

[bac0n]

I can see that. But it's hard to get an effective story/legend told in thirty seconds. I imagine the first full trailer will do just that.

Hell, something like a nazi flag burning to cinder to reveal Cap's iconic shield would get the job done.

[MadMan]

Thor looks cool. Captain America, not so much.

[[ETM]]

Thor looks cool. Captain America, not so much.

Crazy pills?

[KK2.0]

I like that it seems to be very colourful and pulpy.

VERY cool.

And yeah, for a 30 second trailer, I thought it gave a good feel for the movie. Hopefully the full 2:30 theatrical trailer will give us a taste of how the story will pan out.

I know it's still in production, but it looked a tad low budget and even campier than Thor.

Judging by Marvel's work with Iron Man i'm sure it's not the case, but my anticipation remains low.

[Grouchy]

The most interesting Captain America stories are the ones where the character stands at odds with the government, showing how Cap's ideal of freedom and equality is from the reality of the country.

If Captain America's stories were as patriotic today as in the '40s, he'd be a pretty worthless and despicable character.

[MadMan]

;322967']Crazy pills?At the time I saw the trailer, I wasn't overally impressed. Chris Evans aside, I somewhat like the cast for it, and a second viewing of the trailer gives me more hope it won't suck. But man Evans in the main role? Meh.

[bac0n]

At the time I saw the trailer, I wasn't overally impressed. Chris Evans aside, I somewhat like the cast for it, and a second viewing of the trailer gives me more hope it won't suck. But man Evans in the main role? Meh.

Have you seen him in Sunshine? That might change your tune.

[Morris Schæffer]

Have you seen him in Sunshine? That might change your tune.

I need to see that movie again, because I remember something decent. Solid leading man, and nothing more. But I suppose that is enough for Capt. America.

[Acapelli]

If Captain America's stories were as patriotic today as in the '40s, he'd be a pretty worthless and despicable character.
that time he punched out hitler was deplorable ;)

[Grouchy]

that time he punched out hitler was deplorable ;)
What I mean is that if they were doing stories like that today, he'd be punching democratic presidents such as Hugo Chávez. If they did them in the '70s, he'd be delivering tapes to Nixon.

Cap has to be a rebel to remain a hero.

[number8]

Wrote this article last night:

http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/7406-marvel-takes-comic-art-to-screen-personally.html

[bac0n]

Dude, I think Cap is so awesome he needs his own thread.

[Dukefrukem]

Wrote this article last night:

http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/7406-marvel-takes-comic-art-to-screen-personally.html

Pretty awesome.

They've (marvel) done this pretty consistently i feel.

http://www.telepk.com/img/spider-man/250px-Amazingspiderman50.jpghttp://www.disnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Spider-Man.jpg

[megladon8]

I always loved in that second Spider-Man image (used on the movie posters, I believe?) how it's almost like the old cartoon in that it leaves you thinking "WHERE THE HELL IS HE SWINGING FROM? HE'S LIKE 100 FEET ABOVE THE CITY!"

[MadMan]

Have you seen him in Sunshine? That might change your tune.I still haven't gotten around to watching that movie for some reason.

[megladon8]

Yeah, Chris Evans is pretty much perfect.

[bac0n]

I still haven't gotten around to watching that movie for some reason.

well, you should, post haste. he's fantastic in that film.

[Morris Schæffer]

Shane Black may direct Iron Man 3. May.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=30125

[Dukefrukem]

Beat me to it Morris

[bac0n]

I just hope that the main battle in Iron Man 3 isn't just another guy in a souped up Iron Man suit. Wouldn't mind another guy in a battle suit, but give me Crimson Dynamo or Titanium Man (or both - do that one story arc where Stark discovers that his suit plans were stolen and sold to various people who used it to make all sorts of suits, which he then sets about to traveling the globe and destroying.)

Or maybe ditch the whole suit thing altogether and have him face off against The Mandarin.

[Acapelli]

i would love for shane black to reunite with rdjr

[number8]

Works quite well, actually.

S3TKCeGc2Ao

[Morris Schæffer]

Maybe they need to stay away from metallic adversaries because that invariably leads to clunky, soulless final showdowns if parts I and II are anything to judge by. Remember how badly pummeled Robocop got thanks to Boddiker and his thugs? And these guys were nasty without fancy toys or special powers. I guess the Iron Man universe doesn't lend itself to that, but it might be a cool departure.

[megladon8]

i would love for shane black to reunite with rdjr


Agreed.

Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang was one of the most underseen films of the 2000s.

[Kiusagi]

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is fantastic. I would love to see Shane Black take on Iron Man. His style of humor and action would seem to fit right in. Hopefully this happens.

[MadMan]

I think the first film and the second film are both really awesome, fun comic book movies. So yeah I'm eagerly awaiting the third flick, and if Shane Black is involved well fantastic.

[BuffaloWilder]

This looks like a bit of well put-together, dumb fun with just the lightest hint of relevancy and emotional effectiveness.

I like it.

[Sxottlan]

Works quite well, actually.

S3TKCeGc2Ao

Perfection.

[number8]

So it's done. Shane Black it is.

Hopefully, he'll write it too.

[Watashi]

We have an Iron Man 3 thread.

[Raiders]

We have an Iron Man 3 thread.

Not anymore.

[Watashi]

Can we lump all Asian Cult films together in one thread too?

It's only fair.

[number8]

Can we lump all Asian Cult films together in one thread too?

It's only fair.

Only if they're all sequels of one another.

[Watashi]

But Thor and Cap aren't sequels...

[Raiders]

But Thor and Cap aren't sequels...

We were talking about them already exclusively here. If they had already had their own threads, I wouldn't have combined them all. It just seemed to cause confusion to talk about all the other films here and have Iron Man 3 on its own.

[number8]

But Thor and Cap aren't sequels...

Thor jumps off of Iron Man 2 and Cap jumps off of that. They're already talking about making Iron Man 3 a continuation of The Avengers.

[Watashi]

I think every movie should have Avengers tie-ins or continuations.

Tony Stark should make a cameo in Tree of Life and Nick Fury should try and recruit Harry Potter in the last Harry Potter film.

[Watashi]

Here's an all new Thor trailer. (http://www.slashfilm.com/thor-trailer-2/)

[megladon8]

Pretty much everything on Earth looks terrible.

Also, since when do the cosmos provide a form-fitting long sleeve and jeans when you're cast down from the heavens?

[number8]

"I cast thee down a MORTAL, Odinson! ...with this $200 gift card for DKNY."

[Ezee E]

Weird how everything on paper for Thor sounded awesome, but is coming out horrible.

And almost everything on Captain America sounded bad, but that's coming out awesome.

[Watashi]

I thought that the new trailer for Thor was awesome.

[EyesWideOpen]

I thought that the new trailer for Thor was awesome.

Me too. That looks far better then anything else they've shown of it.

[Morris Schæffer]

This whole twin universe in Thor just feels and looks awkward. Sure, the majority of the movie looks to take place on Earth, but I don't wanna sit there for two hours thinking "Geez, I'm so not buying him to be originally from Asgard." At least Superman actually travelled to Earth. "I cast you out naughty boy" just sounds stupid. Captain America, Good ole Steve Rogers is just a dude from Planet Earth fighting against nazis. Some might exclaim "INSTANT WIN!"

EDIT: Though reportedly, only 30% of the movie is set on Earth!

[megladon8]

I don't know how someone could see that scene with Thor getting tasered and think "that looks awesome!"

That was awful, awful, unfunny and awful.


Everything in Asgard looks cool. I really look forward to the Frost King stuff.

But the Earth segments look baaaaaad.

[Scar]

I don't know how someone could see that scene with Thor getting tasered and think "that looks awesome!"

That was awful, awful, unfunny and awful.


Everything in Asgard looks cool. I really look forward to the Frost King stuff.

But the Earth segments look baaaaaad.

I laughed at the taser sequence.

[Morris Schæffer]

Okay, that actually looked like it might be fun. A much better trailer.

[Watashi]

I laughed at the taser sequence.

So did I.

[megladon8]

I groaned.

Though it may have been more that I was still wondering why he was wearing such nice Earth clothes when he just got here.

[Lasse]

I agree with Meg. I don't know anything about the Thor comics, but this looked lame. I sort of thought the robotic foe at the end was sort of cool, though.

[megladon8]

I agree with Meg. I don't know anything about the Thor comics, but this looked lame. I sort of thought the robotic foe at the end was sort of cool, though.


Of course you think it's lame.

You come from the land of Norse Gods. You'll sit in the theatre shouting out "By Odin's hammer, Asgard is NOTHING like that!"

[Lasse]

Of course you think it's lame.

You come from the land of Norse Gods. You'll sit in the theatre shouting out "By Odin's hammer, Asgard is NOTHING like that!"

Well, yeah, sort of. :lol:

Still, this looks like Norse mythology meets One Tree Hill meets Everybody Loves Raymond.

[Morris Schæffer]

LOL @ Meg's comment. :D

[number8]

"I like this drink! ANOTHER!"

I'm liking the tone of this.

[Dukefrukem]

why were all these threads merged together?? Now it's one big cluster fuck and I can't tell if this news has already been reported or not here....

[Grouchy]

I will say this:

1. It does look bad.

2. I can't wait to see it.

[megladon8]

"I like this drink! ANOTHER!"

I'm liking the tone of this.


Yeah, I liked that moment.

But I really found the taser part bad.

[Dukefrukem]

why were all these threads merged together?? Now it's one big cluster fuck and I can't tell if this news has already been reported or not here....

hello?

[Scar]

hello?

Did ya read the last page?

[Dukefrukem]

Did ya read the last page?

You know me by now I never read more than the post above mine...

[Raiders]

why were all these threads merged together?? Now it's one big cluster fuck and I can't tell if this news has already been reported or not here....

I only merged the Iron Man 3 thread which had all of about ten posts and nothing beyond the Shane Black rumor which number8 confirmed in this thread. The rest of the discussion for the Marvel films was already all in the same thread.

So, yeah, you're whining about nothing.

[Dukefrukem]

I like organization. Not cluster fuck. This thread should be splint into the three threads.

[Raiders]

I like organization. Not cluster fuck. This thread should be splint into the three threads.

OK, well, once you have gone through every post please feel free to send me the post numbers referring specifically to each of the four (not three) films under discussion and I will properly split the threads.

Please double-check your efforts in order to avoid multiple "cluster fucks," to use your words. Thanks.

[Ezee E]

OK, well, once you have gone through every post please feel free to send me the post numbers referring specifically to each of the four (not three) films under discussion and I will properly split the threads.

Please double-check your efforts in order to avoid multiple "cluster fucks," to use your words. Thanks.

Or, you know, make the thread yourself. I think a THOR one is already made, so just bump that puppy. The Avengers one could probably wait a while.

[Rowland]

Or better yet, the Upcoming Marvel Cinema Universe is laaaaame. But the notion of another movie directed by Shane Black is pretty sweet, so I'm conflicted, kinda. Carry on.

[Dukefrukem]

Or, you know, make the thread yourself. I think a THOR one is already made, so just bump that puppy. The Avengers one could probably wait a while.

Thor and an Iron Man one were already made. All we needed to do was rename this thread to Captain America.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, I just thought 1 thread for three different movies spanned over 3 years is a bad idea. Esp if people don't end up watching them in order. (Which yes, can and probably will happen)

But whatever I'm in the minority as usual.

[Skitch]

I would vote to keep all the comic book movies contained in one thread until one actually begins filming, then split it off into its own thread. But I'm fine with whatever. :)

[Raiders]

Thor and an Iron Man one were already made. All we needed to do was rename this thread to Captain America.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, I just thought 1 thread for three different movies spanned over 3 years is a bad idea. Esp if people don't end up watching them in order. (Which yes, can and probably will happen)

But whatever I'm in the minority as usual.

The Thor thread still exists (http://match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=3119). I wasn't even aware of its existence, but it is still there. I thought all discussion of it was here. There are in fact over 100 posts mentioning the film here, so the confusion predates anything I have done. I suggest taking it up with them.

I switched Iron Man here because there was nothing of substance in the solo thread and posts were starting to be made here, not there, about new developments. So I eliminated the confusion.

And no, we couldn't just rename this Captain America as The Avengers was also discussed here.

You are right that a single thread for each would have been better, but we were so far down the rabbit hole on at least two of the films, if not more, that there is no way I am spending that much time to parse the posts.

[Dukefrukem]

Thread (http://match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=3119&highlight=thor)(s (http://match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=1323&highlight=thor))

[Raiders]

I realize these films may mean a lot to you Duke, but honestly, this is an imperfect world where unfortunately multiple threads occasionally get created and occasionally threads become a little confusing and require you to perform a small amount of mental exercise to get the information you want. I was simply attempting to streamline the current discussion. I am sorry I pissed in your Cheerios.

I just hope at some point you will realize ALL that was done was to take ten posts, all simply reacting to the potential of Shane Black directing (it was not confirmed there), and merge them here. Everything else has been the way it is for a long while now.

[number8]

I didn't even know there was a Thor and Iron Man 3 thread. I've been posting everything in the big thread. I probably would've kept doing that regardless of a merge or not.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm accepting the change Raiders. You don't have to patronize me in your decision process reasoning.

[Dukefrukem]

I didn't even know there was a Thor and Iron Man 3 thread. I've been posting everything in the big thread. I probably would've kept doing that regardless of a merge or not.

On most forums, (I realize MC is different) people get called out when they don't use the search button. Only takes a small amount of metal exercise.

[number8]

On most forums, (I realize MC is different) people get called out when they don't use the search button. Only takes a small amount of metal exercise.

Pfth, coming from the guy who doesn't even the read the previous page.

There was a thread called "The Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Avengers, etc Discussion Thread." I'd assumed nobody was being so redundant as to create additional individual threads.

[Dukefrukem]

Fair enough. The previous page reading was a joke (even though I have fallen victim to this in the past) and the news I wanted to post I thought had just broke, which was who was directing IM3.

[Raiders]

I'm accepting the change Raiders. You don't have to patronize me in your decision process reasoning.

Perhaps not, but you were making it seem like I seriously interrupted your enjoyment here when all I did was move a few relatively inconsequential posts.

[Acapelli]

these movies are pretty much sequels to one another so having the discussion all in one thread is fine with me

[Grouchy]

On most forums, (I realize MC is different) people get called out when they don't use the search button. Only takes a small amount of metal exercise.
Metal exercise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJChh7ghGnE&feature=player_detailpage). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJChh7ghGnE&feature=player_detailpage

[number8]

Cementing that they're all sequels of one another: the plot of The Avengers is apparently Loki getting the Cosmic Cube back from the Red Skull and using it to summon a Skrull invasion of Earth.

[D_Davis]

I like having all the superhero threads combined into one uber-thread I don't have to care about.

[Dukefrukem]

wow

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/855/original/Captain-America-Red-Skull_510.jpg?1299178077

[megladon8]

Certainly looks like the Red Skull.

[Henry Gale]

Cementing that they're all sequels of one another: the plot of The Avengers is apparently Loki getting the Cosmic Cube back from the Red Skull and using it to summon a Skrull invasion of Earth.

I really find this cool, if only because it makes Thor and Captain America feel like they're arguably the two more essential films of the overall story going into The Avengers. That's a pretty big shift compared to how it's felt before to me before this, which was basically that they were just making Thor and Cap movies to get the character's names out there in a big way and to set up their mythology and personalities so that the big Whedon movie didn't have to spend time doing so. It really never crossed my mind that they'd try to tie them both in with any more than Clark Gregg and Samuel L. Jackson showing up.

[number8]

Yup, and actually, the Cosmic Cube is introduced in Thor, and in Captain America, the Nazis steal it from an Asgardian tomb, Indiana Jones style.

The three movies are going to directly lead into one another, and I guess what they're planning is that something will happen in Avengers that kicks off the plot of Iron Man 3.

[Acapelli]

Yup, and actually, the Cosmic Cube is introduced in Thor, and in Captain America, the Nazis steal it from an Asgardian tomb, Indiana Jones style.

The three movies are going to directly lead into one another, and I guess what they're planning is that something will happen in Avengers that kicks off the plot of Iron Man 3.
it's cool that they're trying to make movies more like comic books rather than the other way around

[bac0n]

So that means the I want to see Thor now, but mainly as a prologue to seeing Captain America.

[Sycophant]

So that means the I want to see Thor now, but mainly as a prologue to seeing Captain America.

IT'S WORKING

[Raiders]

I wonder if that is intended to be Red Skull wearing a mask or if they intend to make that his actual face.

[megladon8]

I wonder if that is intended to be Red Skull wearing a mask or if they intend to make that his actual face.


I'm pretty sure it's his face.

In the trailer there's a shot of him peeling off the normal Hugo Weaving face and revealing the Red Skull face underneath.

[Morris Schæffer]

What happened To Red Skull that led him to become a distant Freddy Kruger relative?

[Dukefrukem]

What happened To Red Skull that led him to become a distant Freddy Kruger relative?

I'd like to know this as well.

It's a nitpick but I feel like the skull in the pic above is disproportioned to the rest of the body... compared to what a skull would look like if it wasn't just makeup over skin over a REAL skull. It was probably not possible, but I would have liked to see some kind of CGI like they did with Two Face in Dark Knight.

[number8]

I dunno how they're doing it in the movie.

Actually, for the longest time in the comics, he was just a guy in a skull mask. It only became his real face in the 70's.

[Fezzik]

I'm pretty sure it's his face.

In the trailer there's a shot of him peeling off the normal Hugo Weaving face and revealing the Red Skull face underneath.

I thought the clip showed him removing his Red Skull mask?

Seriously, am I remembering this wrong?

[Dukefrukem]

I thought the clip showed him removing his Red Skull mask?

Seriously, am I remembering this wrong?

Yes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX-dpQAginE&feature=player_detailpage#t=21 s)

[Morris Schæffer]

I thought the clip showed him removing his Red Skull mask?

Seriously, am I remembering this wrong?

No, he definitely went Ethan Hunt on us. :D

[number8]

What a weird poster.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/115/1153620/thor-20110304095218287.jpg

[Eleven]

I never noticed what a lovely god you have on your nose.

[[ETM]]

Worst text placement ever?

[Raiders]

I dunno how they're doing it in the movie.

Actually, for the longest time in the comics, he was just a guy in a skull mask. It only became his real face in the 70's.

Right, I was expecting him to just have a mask on in the film but that picture seems to definitely show it is intended to be his face and with that clip from the trailer it looks to be reverse of the original comics; he will wear a human face over his red skull.

It will be interesting to see if they explain his red face. I remember in the comic it was a Two-Face kind of event where his face was covered with poison (that magically made it look like the same mask he had been wearing for decades). But even then, I think this was all after his death from old age and his regeneration.

As far as I know, they haven't added any special powers to the character, so not sure what the rationale will be for his appearance.

[megladon8]

They needed to sneak "AVENGE" in there somewhere.

[number8]

I remember in the comic it was a Two-Face kind of event where his face was covered with poison (that magically made it look like the same mask he had been wearing for decades).

Well, it's not that coincidental. It makes a little more sense and poetic in context: Red Skull's trademark weapon is that he kills people with a poison gas that shrivels their appearance and reddens their skin so that they look like a red skull, so people know he did it, very much like the Joker and his laughing gas. He got it on himself during a fight. He miraculously didn't die, but his face turned out that way.

[Raiders]

Well, it's not that coincidental. It makes a little more sense and poetic in context: Red Skull's trademark weapon is that he kills people with a poison gas that shrivels their appearance and reddens their skin so that they look like a red skull, so people know he did it, very much like the Joker and his laughing gas. He got it on himself during a fight. He miraculously didn't die, but his face turned out that way.

Ooooh, it was the same poison. Haven't ever read any great amount of Captain America, but I did remember quite well the general plot of Red Skull.

[number8]

On a related note, I just realized that the reason they made Red Skull decked in HYDRA gear is so that they won't have swastikas plastered all over the movie's merchandising.

[megladon8]

Personally I think that's exactly how I would want Red Skull to look in a live-action movie.

I'm glad that they seem to have no qualms going over the top and even a bit pulpy here.

We need to get away from this "everything must be DAAAAARRRRKKKK" thing with comic book movies.

Dark =/= depth.

A movie can be campy, pulpy fun and still have thematic depth and richly drawn characters.

[number8]

Like Green Lantern.

:P

[megladon8]

Like Green Lantern.

:P


No, Green Lantern just looks baaaaaaaaaad.

[Raiders]

Personally I think that's exactly how I would want Red Skull to look in a live-action movie.

I'm glad that they seem to have no qualms going over the top and even a bit pulpy here.

We need to get away from this "everything must be DAAAAARRRRKKKK" thing with comic book movies.

Dark =/= depth.

A movie can be campy, pulpy fun and still have thematic depth and richly drawn characters.

I think a red skull mask says "campy and fun" and much less DAAAAAARK than looking like Satan's second cousin.

[number8]

I don't really think that comic book movies in general have been dark and gritty and serious other than the ones Nolan and Singer are doing, though. What else is there?

[megladon8]

I think a red skull mask says "campy and fun" and much less DAAAAAARK than looking like Satan's second cousin.


The whole costume is over-the-top. It looks like something from Hellboy II.

And the trailer screamed "fun".

[Raiders]

The whole costume is over-the-top. It looks like something from Hellboy II.

And the trailer screamed "fun".

I like the look just fine, I was only stating I don't think his appearance looks campy, or at least intentionally so.

[megladon8]

I don't really think that comic book movies in general have been dark and gritty and serious other than the ones Nolan and Singer are doing, though. What else is there?


Hulk was a depressing father-son drama.

Daredevil tried to be dark, gritty and serious but failed miserably because Mark Steven Johnson shouldn't be allowed near cameras.

The X-Men films were pretty serious and dark in tone until Wolverine which just took it to the other extreme.

And of course Watchmen.

[megladon8]

I like the look just fine, I was only stating I don't think his appearance looks campy, or at least intentionally so.


Really?

I think if they tried to make him look and more cartoonishly evil, he'd have a curly black mustache and be riding a giant spider.

[Henry Gale]

Yeah I'm not sure what to make of that poster, but this banner (which I assume will be used for billboards, side-of-bus ads, etc.) looks a little bit cooler, though still a bit weird in its design:

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/thor-20110304095219943.jpg

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48768

Essentially, Shane Black talking about Iron Man 3. It will not be another case of clunky robotic dude battling another mettalic adversary, but more of a thriller in the vein of a Tom Clancy movie with Stark battling real-world villains.

And thank Christ for that!

[number8]

Marvel is developing The Inhumans.

Christ, I guess the alien invasion in The Avengers will lead to a ton of these other movies. It'll be like the movie equivalent of a crossover event.

I'm neither optimistic nor pessimistic about this news. I'm just amazed at the level of ambition involved.

[Dukefrukem]

I've never even heard of the Inhumans....

[megladon8]

I think it's pretty cool that Robert Downey Jr. is very involved in the writing process for Iron Man 3.

Apparently the writing credit may even read "Written by Shane Black and Robert Downey Jr."

[D_Davis]

I want a Quasar movie.

[number8]

I want a Quasar movie.

See, I feel like the Inhumans will be the first step in these movies going cosmic, which might eventually lead to Quasar down the line. If they don't bomb horribly, which they will.

[megladon8]

A Captain Marvel movie could absolutely rock socks.

And I'm, of course, talking about the cosmic, omnipotent Genis-Vell whose flesh looks like the vast, starry expanse of space.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3245/60582captainmarvel.jpg


Quite possible my favorite run in all of comics history.

[Eleven]

I used to be a bit of a Marvel fanboy, mostly the 60s and 70s stuff. So as a prime audience member for Skrulls, Inhumans, et al., let me just say: boy do I not care about any of them in a movie.

[megladon8]

Actually come to think of it, the Genis-Vell story arc could easily be adapted to become a really great Superman story.

Hmmmm....

[D_Davis]

See, I feel like the Inhumans will be the first step in these movies going cosmic, which might eventually lead to Quasar down the line. If they don't bomb horribly, which they will.

Yeah, you're probably right. And what about Dr. Strange? You think they would've jumped on that during the LotR and HP craze.

[bac0n]

On the cosmic tip, I remember hearing a rumor that a Silver Surfer movie was in the works, basically starting with him floating in space like he was at the end of Fantastic Four 2. Haven't heard squat about it in a long time, and subsequent rumors of an F4 reboot have me wondering if it's been scrapped entirely.

[number8]

I hope they're just waiting for Linklater to be available to do Dr. Strange.

[D_Davis]

I hope they're just waiting for Linklater to be available to do Dr. Strange.

Well, yeah. That goes without saying.

[Eleven]

Thor poster in the style of The Social Network: (http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/03/06/the-thorcial-network)

http://badassness.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/thorc.jpg

[number8]

As soon as Faraci made that joke, I was waiting for this. Excellent execution.

[Derek]

As soon as Faraci made that joke, I was waiting for this. Excellent execution.

I was waiting for it 3 days before that.

[megladon8]

A casting call in New Mexico describes some of the plot for The Avengers, and mentions both the Kree and the Skrulls...


"A superhero team called 'The Avengers' do battle against two separate alien extraterrestrial humanoid life forms. The Avengers are a superhero team, consisting of a group of Marvel Comics heroes aka 'Earth’s Mightiest Heroes'. The aliens that The Avengers will fight are called 'The Kree' and 'Skrulls'. These two extraterrestrial races become embroiled in a war for ages that ultimately makes its way to Earth, and the Avengers unite to intervene with all their power and might combined."

[Raiders]

"alien extraterrestrial humanoid life forms"

I hope this is the phrase they use at every mention in the film.

[Morris Schæffer]

"A.E.H.L.F!! Two 'o Clock!! Get the hell out of here!!!!"

[megladon8]

New image looks great...

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/913/firstvengeanceimage.jpg

[Morris Schæffer]

Full trailer to premiere tonight on ET

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48957

Here's some footage already, looks explosive as fuck!

[Watashi]

7BBXXnYoIVo

Now that's a BADASS trailer.

[Ezee E]

Love it.

[[ETM]]

Hayley Atwell is smoking hot.

[number8]

Not wild on the diffused cinematography, but this is going to be great.

[bac0n]

OH HELL YES

[Dukefrukem]

Wow. That looks good.

[Raiders]

Evans' head on the tiny body looks goofy as hell.

[Fezzik]

I cannot freaking wait.

[megladon8]

Pants = soiled.

That looks awesome.

[Morris Schæffer]

Looks like the good kind of summer movie.

[TGM]

Are people seriously only nowgetting excited?

[Fezzik]

Are people seriously only nowgetting excited?

I was excited before, of course. But it was guarded excitement. I'd only seen a teaser and some images. I was hopeful, but I've been let down before.

That trailer really gives me (I think) an idea of the tone of the film and the look of it, and I'm really impressed. My excitement was always there, now it's just spiked.

[megladon8]

I like the statement the film makes about America being a nation of cowards hiding behind their own bravado reputation.

See how Steve Rogers is shown grabbing a trash can lid in the back alley fight, and holds it like a shield - like Cap's shield! - to defend himself against the attacker's blows?

Then we see huge Steve Rogers, now Captain America, still using a shield to hide from his attackers - this time the shield is literally adorned in the stars and stripes!

This may end up being the most politically charged film of the year!!!

[D_Davis]

OK- that trailer looks totally rad.

[megladon8]

OK- that trailer looks totally rad.


I like how totally, unapologetically pulpy it is.

Nice to see some VIBRANCY and COLOUR in a superhero film. Dark-and-brooding works for Batman, but this idea that "dark = mature" or "dark = intelligent" that studios seem to be thinking since 2005 just drives me nuts.

[Acapelli]

I like the statement the film makes about America being a nation of cowards hiding behind their own bravado reputation.

See how Steve Rogers is shown grabbing a trash can lid in the back alley fight, and holds it like a shield - like Cap's shield! - to defend himself against the attacker's blows?

Then we see huge Steve Rogers, now Captain America, still using a shield to hide from his attackers - this time the shield is literally adorned in the stars and stripes!

This may end up being the most politically charged film of the year!!!
where did you c/p this from

[megladon8]

where did you c/p this from


I didn't...?

[Acapelli]

oh

[megladon8]

Reverse Hayley Atwell's initials.

A H

ADOLF HITLER

Coincidence? No. F-ing. Way.

[Scar]

I like the statement the film makes about America being a nation of cowards hiding behind their own bravado reputation.

See how Steve Rogers is shown grabbing a trash can lid in the back alley fight, and holds it like a shield - like Cap's shield! - to defend himself against the attacker's blows?

Then we see huge Steve Rogers, now Captain America, still using a shield to hide from his attackers - this time the shield is literally adorned in the stars and stripes!

This may end up being the most politically charged film of the year!!!

:|

[megladon8]

...

It was a joke.

[Scar]

...

It was a joke.

:|:|:|:pritch:

[Ezee E]

:|:|:|:pritch:
:cry:

[Skitch]

Stupid phone! I can't see whatever video you guys are chatting about. Link?

EDIT: nevermind. Found it on flixster. WHOA!

[TGM]

I love how everyone on this board loves the trailer, yet everyone on another board I post at absolutely hates it. (I'm in the "love it" crowd, fyi ;) )

[Kurosawa Fan]

If it's any consolation, I think it looks lame. I just thought I'd leave my negativity out of the thread, considering I've made my thoughts clear on comic book adaptations.

[Boner M]

I would like to know baby doll's thoughts on this trailer.

[megladon8]

If it's any consolation, I think it looks lame. I just thought I'd leave my negativity out of the thread, considering I've made my thoughts clear on comic book adaptations.


At least you're not a shill, interviewing Hayley Atwell with googly eyes then turning around and sharing your apathy online.

Shill.

[Raiders]

The trailer is alright, but I stand by my comment that Evans' head looks redonkulous on that tiny body. I can't imagine that not being distracting for the first part of the film before he morphs into Chris Evans.

[Wryan]

I think it looks pumpin.

Yes, pumpin.

[number8]

Health Ledger, Chris Evans, who else is going to be the next actor to get fanboys to collectively go, "Uh, okay, yeah, I was wrong"?

Robert Pattinson as Tetsuo?

[D_Davis]

The trailer is alright, but I stand by my comment that Evans' head looks redonkulous on that tiny body. I can't imagine that not being distracting for the first part of the film before he morphs into Chris Evans.

I don't know who he is, so I thought it was just a skinny little dude.

[D_Davis]

Robert Pattinson as Tetsuo?

Will he be in yellow-face?

[number8]

I don't know who he is, so I thought it was just a skinny little dude.

You don't know who Chris Evans is?

[D_Davis]

You don't know who Chris Evans is?

No, especially not enough to recognize his face or body.

I guess the only think I've ever seen that he was in was Sunshine. Don't remember who he was though.

[megladon8]

I always liked Chris Evans.

[Ezee E]

Was Chris Evans in chic flicks?

[Morris Schæffer]

Cellular was an enjoyable, little thriller, Evans an, uhm, enjoyable, little presence.

[Ivan Drago]

Evans won me over in Scott Pilgrim. Haven't seen him as Human Torch in Fantastic 4 but don't know if I want to considering how bad I've heard the movies are. Can't wait to see Captain America though. Looks awesome. His scrawny body at the beginning of the trailer has to be CGI though.

[megladon8]

Evans won me over in Scott Pilgrim. Haven't seen him as Human Torch in Fantastic 4 but don't know if I want to considering how bad I've heard the movies are. Can't wait to see Captain America though. Looks awesome. His scrawny body at the beginning of the trailer has to be CGI though.


Actually I think it's kind of a CGI composite image.

The scrawny body is the actor who's actually doing the scene. Evans' head was CGI'd onto the body.

I admit it's not flawless. There are times it looks really awkward. But there are just as many times where it's pretty convincing.


Scene with Cap and the Howling Commandos bursting in through the doors, Cap grabs a handgun and starts snipin' dudes with it?

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[Skitch]

Robert Pattinson as Tetsuo?

I...will...cut...you...

[megladon8]

e5mKYptN2J0


This "FIRST GLIMPSE OF HAWKEYE!!!!" is the worst shit I've ever seen.

[number8]

Where the fuck is Jeremy Renner in any of that?

[megladon8]

Where the fuck is Jeremy Renner in any of that?


I guess the guy on the crane that appears to be holding a bow (though honestly it could have been a fishing rod for the length of time we got to see him).

[Spun Lepton]

I was just thinking. If we're going to talk about comic book movies, then let's start bolding a phrase or two, here and there, similarly to how its done in comic books.

That wouldn't get annoying any time soon.

[megladon8]

I was just thinking. If we're going to talk about comic book movies, then let's start bolding a phrase or two, here and there, similarly to how its done in comic books.

That wouldn't get annoying any time soon.


$@*%! OFF!

[Dukefrukem]

and I reached for my pistol BANG! I shot everyone in this thread.

[megladon8]

and I reached for my pistol BANG! I shot everyone in this thread.


I came from the RPG thread.

I had +4 bullet repellent.

PWNED.

[Morris Schæffer]

Thor

http://movies.ign.com/articles/116/1161564p1.html

The IGN review

[Morris Schæffer]

Reviews seem to lean heavily towards the positive. 28 fresh vs. 2 rotten on RT.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1197233-thor/

[Dukefrukem]

Huh? (Avengers Movie Starts shooting tomorrow? (http://whedonesque.com/comments/26380)

[number8]

Huh? (Avengers Movie Starts shooting tomorrow? (http://whedonesque.com/comments/26380)

Why huh?

[Dukefrukem]

This early?

[number8]

The movie comes out May of next year. A year in advance for a big effects movie doesn't sound that early.

[Sycophant]

Almost seems like it's cutting it close, really.

[megladon8]

That's weird, I honestly thought it was already filming.

In fact I thought it had been filming for a while already.

[Morris Schæffer]

Anyone feel this Avengers movie is going to explode under its own weight? On the one hand, All these marvel heroes played by these great actors sounds unbelievably awesome, but we've complained not infrequently about a superhero flick sporting too many villains. What about too many heroes?

[number8]

Are you saying ensemble action movies don't work?

[Sven]

I'm just skeptical that the film won't be a cumbersome slog of exposition awkwardly peppered with flying CG chunks of buildings and neon energy fields. Because that's what they all end up being and I wish they wouldn't.

[Ezee E]

Are you saying ensemble action movies don't work?
I don't think he's saying that at all.

I fear the same thing actually. That since each lead is a star in some form, they'll want "their" scene to shine. As a result, it'll be a bloated mess.

I'm feeling confident that Marvel knows what they're doing though.

[Morris Schæffer]

Are you saying ensemble action movies don't work?

What Ezee said. I know little about The Avengers universe, but who's the villain? How can any foe stand a chance against Marvel's finest? Unless There are multiple villains. Or one Chuck Norris. :)

[Lazlo]

What Ezee said. I know little about The Avengers universe, but who's the villain? How can any foe stand a chance against Marvel's finest? Unless There are multiple villains. Or one Chuck Norris. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skrull

[[ETM]]

If anyone can manage the hugeness of the Avengers film, it's Whedon.

[Irish]

I'm just skeptical that the film won't be a cumbersome slog of exposition awkwardly peppered with flying CG chunks of buildings and neon energy fields. Because that's what they all end up being and I wish they wouldn't.

^ This, times ten.

I expect Avengers to be decent, but only if Whedon is directing his own material.

The others will approach Punisher* levels of ridiculousness.

*The one with Dolph Lungren.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skrull

Okay, that sounds suitably epic

[Dukefrukem]

VoEJl5qdqwU

[number8]

I kept waiting for a Norse god to show up in that trailer. Disappointed. Marvel is slipping.

[Dukefrukem]

Ha. Yeh I meant to post this in the Upcoming Movie Thread. See... another reason why I hate this Marvel Universe thread!

[number8]

I like this photo. I hope this is their actual chairs on the set.

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/c/70/4db6bd168d34f.jpg

[[ETM]]

I hope this is their actual chairs on the set.

I'm sure they are. I just wish they'd made Hulk's bigger.

[number8]

They shot this last Saturday. No one knows if it's going to be in Captain America or in The Avengers, but more likely the former.

http://www.thefancarpet.com/uploaded_assets/images/news/_65794_Medium.jpg

Z0QFKJpOVeI

[Dukefrukem]

They shot this last Saturday. No one knows if it's going to be in Captain America or in The Avengers, but more likely the former.

http://www.thefancarpet.com/uploaded_assets/images/news/_65794_Medium.jpg

Z0QFKJpOVeI

So can Nick Fury time travel? Filming in modern day Times Square with Nick Fury who's already spoken to Tony Stark and General Thaddeus??

[Raiders]

So can Nick Fury time travel? Filming in modern day Times Square with Nick Fury who's already spoken to Tony Stark and General Thaddeus??

This goes back to Irish's spoiler which you refused to read.

Though I'm not sure how much of a spoiler it is since I believe it already was used in the little-seen 1990 film version and it has been circulating around the internet that it is what will happen.

[number8]

Though I'm not sure how much of a spoiler it is since I believe it already was used in the little-seen 1990 film version and it has been circulating around the internet that it is what will happen.

Well, that and the fact that it's been the character's second origin story for the past... Oh, 50 years.

[number8]

Damn, the acting in Thor was fantastic.

[Watashi]

Damn, the acting in Thor was fantastic.
Where would you rank it among the Marvel films?

[[ETM]]

Yeah, that was lots of fun. As for acting, I'm amazed at everyone's capability to keep a straight face and actually pull off such a flamboyant and unapologetic adaptation.

[Morris Schæffer]

Samuel Jackson's Fury again. Blech.

[number8]

Where would you rank it among the Marvel films?

Well, it only has one real competition so far (the first Iron Man), but I like this more than that, though I'm hoping Cap will top it.

[number8]

;342431']Yeah, that was lots of fun. As for acting, I'm amazed at everyone's capability to keep a straight face and actually pull off such a flamboyant and unapologetic adaptation.

Did you also get the feeling that Branagh has a 3 hour cut somewhere where there's a lot more of just the Asgardian family drama stuff?

[[ETM]]

Did you also get the feeling that Branagh has a 3 hour cut somewhere where there's a lot more of just the Asgardian family drama stuff?

I did have a bit of a "is that it already?" feeling afterwards. I'd watch the 3 hour cut.

[number8]

;342460']I did have a bit of a "is that it already?" feeling afterwards. I'd watch the 3 hour cut.

Every time Rene Russo appears, I kept thinking, "Your scenes got cut, weren't they?"

I was surprised and pleased that Skarsgard was all over this movie, given that he wasn't even playing a Marvel character. Branagh must like him.

[number8]

Seriously though, such a good cast. Hemsworth and Hiddleston were flawless. I am so glad that Loki is going to be in Avengers. I want to see more of Hiddleston. I even liked Hopkins, who I've grown increasingly bored of in the past decade.