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dreamdead
05-16-2010, 03:26 AM
Welcome to the early start of one of the most captivating of directors, Maya Deren.

http://camp-er.net/teaching/sp09/foundations/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mayaderen.jpg

Filmography of her shorts:

Meshes of the Afternoon (1943)
Witch's Cradle (1944)
At Land (1944)
A Study in Choreography for Camera (1945)
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946)
Meditation on Violence (1948)
The Very Eye of Night (1958)

B-side
05-16-2010, 03:29 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) 9.5
Witch's Cradle (1944) 9
At Land (1944) 9.5
A Study in Choreography for Camera (1945) 8
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) 8.5
Meditation on Violence (1948) 7
The Very Eye of Night (1958) 7.5

Ezee E
05-16-2010, 03:31 AM
Any good websites for her shorts that are of good quality?

B-side
05-16-2010, 03:35 AM
Any good websites for her shorts that are of good quality?

Most, if not all of them, appear to be on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPi9i3gfSAM). Obviously not ideal, but it's better than nothing.

Spinal
05-16-2010, 03:37 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 9.5
At Land - 7

Boner M
05-16-2010, 04:38 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 9
At Land - 9
A Study in Choreography for Camera - 7
Ritual in Transfigured Time - 7.5
Meditation on Violence - 4

Melville
05-16-2010, 04:42 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) - 5
At Land (1944) - 7
A Study in Choreography for Camera (1945) - 3
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) - 8
Meditation on Violence (1948) - 4
The Very Eye of Night (1958) - 4

Raiders
05-16-2010, 04:56 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) 10.0
At Land (1944) 9.5
A Study of Choreography for Camera (1945) 6.0
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) 8.0
Meditation on Violence (1948) 7.0
The Very Eye of Night (1958) 8.5

B-side
05-16-2010, 05:07 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) - 5
At Land (1944) - 7
A Study in Choreography for Camera (1945) - 3
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) - 8
Meditation on Violence (1948) - 4
The Very Eye of Night (1958) - 4

Wow. Consider me surprised. I'd have pegged you for a fan.

Ivan Drago
05-16-2010, 06:29 AM
At Land (1944) 8.5

soitgoes...
05-16-2010, 08:11 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) - 9.0
At Land (1944) - 8.5
A Study in Choreography for Camera (1945) - 5.0

B-side
05-16-2010, 08:15 AM
Kinda surprised I'm the only one that's seen Witch's Cradle.

StanleyK
05-16-2010, 01:01 PM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 9
At Land - 8.5
A Study in Choreography for Camera - 5
Ritual in Transfigured Time - 9.5
Meditation on Violence - 2.5
The Very Eye of Night - 5.5




Kinda surprised I'm the only one that's seen Witch's Cradle.

I don't know about everybody else, but I don't want to watch it because it's an incomplete film.

Pop Trash
05-16-2010, 04:48 PM
Meshes of the Afternoon -10
At Land -9
The Very Eye of Night -8


I've seen more, but those are the ones I remember. I'm a fan.

Raiders
05-16-2010, 07:07 PM
EDIT: A Study in Choreography for Camera isn't what I thought it was. What's the Deren film that has images of silhouetted dancers in front of a backdrop of stars? I like that one a lot.

The Very Eye of Night. I like it a lot too, though apparently that isn't a widely-held opinion.

Pop Trash
05-16-2010, 07:29 PM
The Very Eye of Night. I like it a lot too, though apparently that isn't a widely-held opinion.

Yup yup, that's the ticket! Edited.

B-side
05-16-2010, 11:52 PM
I don't know about everybody else, but I don't want to watch it because it's an incomplete film.

It's still excellent.

Yxklyx
05-17-2010, 12:06 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 10
At Land - 6
A Study in Choreography for Camera - 5
Ritual in Transfigured Time - 7
Meditation on Violence - 4
The Very Eye of Night - 6

dreamdead
05-19-2010, 02:12 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 10
At Land - 9.5
A Study in Choreography for Camera - 5
Ritual in Transfigured Time - 9
Meditation on Violence - 5
The Very Eye of Night - 5.5

Mysterious Dude
05-19-2010, 02:26 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 10

Ezee E
05-19-2010, 02:41 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 10

Derek
05-19-2010, 02:53 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) 8.5 (sorry bonerz)
At Land (1944) 9.0
A Study in Choreography for Camera (1945) 8.0
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) 6.5
Meditation on Violence (1948) 5.5
The Very Eye of Night (1958) 5.0

I'll have to watch A Study in Choreography for Camera again because it was easily my favorite of hers outside of the big two.

Spaceman Spiff
05-19-2010, 09:25 PM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) 7.0
A Study of Choreography for Camera (1945) 4.0
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) 5.0

I've definitely seen more, but can't remember them by name.

origami_mustache
05-20-2010, 06:47 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) 10
At Land (1944) 9.5
A Study of Choreography for Camera (1945) 6
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) 8
Meditation on Violence (1948) 6
The Very Eye of Night (1958) 8.5

copied Raiders ratings exactly haha

Dillard
05-20-2010, 04:55 PM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) - 8
At Land (1944) - 9
Meditation on Violence (1948) - 6.5

kopello
05-21-2010, 05:08 AM
Meshes of the Afternoon - 7
A Study in Choreography for the Camera - 6.5
Meditation on Violence - 6

thefourthwall
05-22-2010, 08:16 PM
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) - 10
At Land (1944) - 9.5
A Study in Choreography for Camera (1945) - 7.5
Ritual in Transfigured Time (1946) - 9
Meditation on Violence (1948) - 5
The Very Eye of Night (1958) - 5.5

dreamdead
05-23-2010, 01:07 PM
Results:
Meshes of the Afternoon - 8.9722 (18)
At Land - 8.66 (15)
Ritual in Transfigured Time - 7.1818 (12)
The Very Eye of Night - 6.4 (10)
A Study in Choreography for Camera - 5.8462 (13)
Meditation on Violence - 5.2083 (12)
=7.1408

Did not Qualify:
Witch's Cradle - 9 (1)

Factoids:
Melville was the only individual to rate a short film other than Meshes or At Land higher than the rest
Most view her later work as less involving - because Deren took herself out of the films or the ideas and experimentation is less noteworthy at this point?

Mysterious Dude
05-24-2010, 03:25 AM
http://camp-er.net/teaching/sp09/foundations/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mayaderen.jpg
This picture is hilarious. I wonder if she really worked that way.

Derek
05-24-2010, 04:11 AM
This picture is hilarious. I wonder if she really worked that way.

Well, it's a hand rewind with elbow brake which is commonly used in archives to check the quality of film reels, though I'm sure it could just as easily have been used for editing, especially back then when you had to hand-splice everything. The clutter of canisters blocking the light source, however, probably were put there just to make her look a lot busier. :)