The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher)

[Morris Schæffer]

It looks like this will be his next movie. I've read the book, was maddeningly engaged by it, but I've not seen the movie by Nils Arden-Oplev though I've heard very good things.

Nonetheless, Fincher might really do something terrific with Larsson's novel.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=27472

[Ezee E]

This has got me intrigued enough to read the book. Seems like they're pushing Kristen Stewart for the lead.

[transmogrifier]

I don't know. I haven't read the book, but all the descriptions I've read point towards it being very Fincheresque. Which means that it strikes me as kind of formulaic and lazy to actually get Fincher to do it.

Still, he did something fresh with Zodiac, which was also very Finchery, so I remain guardedly optimistic.

[[ETM]]

Ebert has been raving about the original film for days. My girlfriend has seen it and loved it. In fact, she saw the entire trilogy but says the sequels feel like prolonged TV procedural episodes.

[Grouchy]

I don't understand this at all.

So it's an American remake of the movie that has already been made about these books?

[Winston*]

I think Fincher should spend his time adapting a good book instead.

[Ezee E]

I think Fincher should spend his time adapting a good book instead.
Whatever the book is for "The Social Network" is apparently very good.

[[ETM]]

I don't understand this at all.

So it's an American remake of the movie that has already been made about these books?

I could understand that. But he's remaking a very good, recent movie.

[Mara]

/obligatory post about how much I hated the book

[Kurosawa Fan]

/obligatory post about how much I hated the book

/obligatory follow up post about how much I also hated the book.

[ledfloyd]

i really can't imagine anything that could get me to see this movie.

[Grouchy]

;252730']I could understand that. But he's remaking a very good, recent movie.
Ugh. That fucking sucks.

I will not see this if it gets made. I will ignore that it's part of Fincher's filmography.

[Morris Schæffer]

I will not see this if it gets made. I will ignore that it's part of Fincher's filmography.

What if turns out to be brilliant? Does it matter then what version you see first?

In any case, the Millenium books have a fantastic central female protagonist.

[Kurosawa Fan]

In any case, the Millenium books have a fantastic central female protagonist.

This is so false.

[D_Davis]

I'm really surprised by how much Match Cut seems to hate this book. I know about 8 people IRL who read it awhile ago, people really into noir and hardboiled fiction, and they loved it. I also talk to a couple pe0ple from Sweden on Goodreads who are into this whole Swedish crime scene, and they, too, like the book and the author, although they say it's not "the best" that the country has to offer. I just borrowed it from my friend last night. Probably read it in a few weeks.

[Lasse]

Haven't read the book series, but it's a huge hit here in Scandinavia. Same with the films, of which I've seen the first and second. First one was very good, and the second was decent.

[Mara]

I'm really surprised by how much Match Cut seems to hate this book. I know about 8 people IRL who read it awhile ago, people really into noir and hardboiled fiction, and they loved it.

KF and I are the only people I know who disliked it. It was widely praised in reviews, and when I blind bought it the cashier raved about it. I know it was a huge hit in Europe.

And it wasn't badly written the way that, say, The Da Vinci Code was badly written. I just couldn't stand the plot or the characters.

[Winston*]

Hey, I didn't like it either. Apparently the movie version somewhat fixed one of the things (though not the main thing) I didn't like about the novel: the baffling structure with its weird excess 100 pages at the end.

[Grouchy]

What if turns out to be brilliant? Does it matter then what version you see first?
I wouldn't know because I won't watch it.

I'll watch the original and maybe even read the book, though.

[Barty]

Just saw the original, and it was superb.

[Morris Schæffer]

Craig possibly added.


Daniel Craig is in talks to play “Mikael Blomkvist”, the leading male role in David Fincher’s adaptation of Stieg Larsson’s crime novel The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. EW (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/03/daniel-craig-in-early-talks-for-the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo/), Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/daniel-craig-in-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-mix/), and The Wrap (http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/exclusive-daniel-craig-18015) are all “exclusively” reporting the news, but each has the negotiation at a different stage. EW says Sony has begun talks with Craig, Deadline simply says the sides are talking, and TheWrap says Sony and Craig are nearing a deal. Whatever the current situation, it appears that Craig has edged out Brad Pitt, who was rumored to have the part.
Hit the jump to learn more about the book along with more details of Craig’s potential casting.

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/girl_with_dragon_tattoo_book_c over-388x600.jpg (http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/girl_with_dragon_tattoo_book_c over.jpg)For those who aren’t familiar with the book, Dragon Tattoo centers on journalist Mikael Blomkvist who recruits autistic computer hacker Lisbeth Salander to find a missing woman. A variety of actresses, including Carey Mulligan, Keira Knightley, and Natalie Portman have expressed interest in playing Salander.
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is the first part of a trilogy, and presumably Craig would sign for all three pictures, just as Fincher has already done. Since James Bond remains in stasis until the MGM fiasco gets worked out, I guess he’s got room in his schedule. Craig has a big 2011 coming up with Jon Favreau’s Cowboys & Aliens, Jim Sheridan’s Dream House, and Steven Spielberg’s The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn. Oh, and Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is slated to hit theaters in December 2011 (http://www.collider.com/2010/05/24/david-fincher-the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-december-2011-sequels/). Keep in mind that Craig’s last film was 2008’s Defiance, and since he’s a great actor, I’m happy to see him in plenty of movies (and I’d like to see him do at least one more Bond film before he ages out of the role)

[transmogrifier]

Terrible news.

Not the casting of Craig, but the fact Fincher's signed on for all three movies. Goddamn, he should be doing better stuff than this.

[number8]

Yeah, that surprised me too. I sincerely hope he's not doing all three back to back and we get better projects in between.

[Ezee E]

It's a crappy book that I think would work better as a movie. Unless the movie decides to explain the history and retell everything every 50 pages or so. Ugh.

I do want to know how it ends, but it's a task getting there.

[[ETM]]

My girlfriend has seen all three films (originals), and loves the first one, and the leading actress Noomi Rapace. She started reading the book after seeing the film and likes it so far, so I'm guessing it does matter in which order you do it.

The rest of the Millennium Trilogy are more like glorified TV productions.

[Morris Schæffer]

So Daniel Craig will be Mikael Blomkvist. Stellan Skarsgard and Robin Wright in negotiations to play Martin Vanger and Erika Berger respectively.

[Henry Gale]

So Rooney Mara is officially cast as Salander.

Of all the hopefuls, she was the one I was kind of hoping Fincher would choose. She's been interesting in all the small roles I've seen her, and even quite good in otherwise bad things (like the Elm Street remake). It seemed the most likely, seeing as she's in his Social Network as well.

Now off to watching the original trilogy to decide whether or not I care about them remaking the whole thing.

[Ezee E]

I'd be totally fine if Brett Ratner took over this trilogy for the next five years.

[number8]

I'd be totally fine if Brett Ratner took over this trilogy for the next five years.

PLEASE.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I'd be totally fine if Brett Ratner took over this trilogy for the next five years.

This would be great.

[transmogrifier]

I'd be totally fine if Brett Ratner took over this trilogy for the next five years.

That would be a dream result. Make it happen, cinema gods.

[right_for_the_moment]

You guys all think Fincher is above the material?

[Ezee E]

You guys all think Fincher is above the material?
Absolutely. Unless he drastically changes things up, I'll think its a huge waste of talent for him to dedicate the next 3-6 years on this trilogy.

[Dukefrukem]

Absolutely. Unless he drastically changes things up, I'll think its a huge waste of talent for him to dedicate the next 3-6 years on this trilogy.

THis is a trilogy???? :frustrated:

[transmogrifier]

You guys all think Fincher is above the material?

Totally.

[transmogrifier]

THis is a trilogy???? :frustrated:

A total waste of an excellent director.

[right_for_the_moment]

Absolutely. Unless he drastically changes things up, I'll think its a huge waste of talent for him to dedicate the next 3-6 years on this trilogy.

Hmm.. I guess I think less of Fincher than most :)

Zodiac aside, I don't think he's made a great movie yet. That said, if he does end up directing the second and third books, he'll probably shoot them together so it won't be as much of a time commitment.

[transmogrifier]

Hmm.. I guess I think less of Fincher than most :)

Zodiac aside, I don't think he's made a great movie yet. That said, if he does end up directing the second and third books, he'll probably shoot them together so it won't be as much of a time commitment.

So you do think he has made a great movie, then. That's one more than many directors.

Aside from Boogie Nights, Magnolia and There Will Be Blood, PT Anderson hasn't made a great movie yet! :)

[right_for_the_moment]

That's very true. Maybe this could be his second? My mom loved the book fwiw..

Also:

Punch-Drunk Love. It's at least kinda great!

[Morris Schæffer]

Absolutely. Unless he drastically changes things up, I'll think its a huge waste of talent for him to dedicate the next 3-6 years on this trilogy.

He has committed to a trilogy? Because he could easily do the first one, and then Ratner could take over. But I don't understand why Fincher would be above the material. It's about the search for a killer which is the kind of material Finchy really made fly back in 2007 and the whole dynasty angle gives it something fresh. I really think he could make this fly and the cast is certainly shaping up formidably.

[DavidSeven]

Above the material, ey? His last release was Benjamin Button, a total lightweight, commercial endeavor. Well-made, but lightweight and totally commercial nonetheless. His upcoming release looks like a self-important piece about Facebook. There's Panic Room and The Game -- average, fairly empty thrillers. Then there's Se7en and Zodiac -- well-scripted, and very good thrillers. I really don't think he's ever made it a point to take on the most challenging material (Fight Club being the most out-of-the-box thing and only hard sell he's ever done). Seems like he's consistently selected some pretty rote material, which have sometimes been executed well at the scripting stage and/or elevated with his direction.

Nevertheless, I concede it's a disappointment anytime a talented director commits to working with the same characters and backstory for a succession of films.

[Ezee E]

Say what you will about Panic Room, bit I love that movie. Fincher gives life and tension to a movie that should have never really had the chance at being good.

[eternity]

You do know that they are fast-tracking these to be released one after another just like the Swedish trilogy, yes? This is a money train that will disappear soon once people realize that the books are kind of terrible.

[Morris Schæffer]

More great news. Christopher Plummer will play patriarch of the Vanger family, Henrik Vanger.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=29070

The Social network was never really on my radar despite the presence of Fincher, but now it turns it might be the best movie of the year. So yeah, this remake is going to be mindblowing.

[Ezee E]

More great news. Christopher Plummer will play patriarch of the Vanger family, Henrik Vanger.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=29070

The Social network was never really on my radar despite the presence of Fincher, but now it turns it might be the best movie of the year. So yeah, this remake is going to be mindblowing.
Max Von Sydow must've been busy.

[megladon8]

You do know that they are fast-tracking these to be released one after another just like the Swedish trilogy, yes? This is a money train that will disappear soon once people realize that the books are kind of terrible.


When has this ever happened?

Twilight begs to differ.

[Ezee E]

When has this ever happened?

Twilight begs to differ.
And majority of people seem to like the books. There's a reason that so many millions have been sold.

[number8]

Um, the problem with both this and Twilight is that people don't realize the books are terrible.

[Ezee E]

Um, the problem with both this and Twilight is that people don't realize the books are terrible.
I suffered my way through the Dragon Tattoo, waiting for something good. I even enjoyed the cliffhanger-feel ends to the DaVinci Code chapters, but this one was just bad. The only good section was Lisbeth's story before she met up with the main guy.

Probably why I haven't been able to get into a book since.

[number8]

Dragon Tattoo got you to stop reading too? The same happened to Cormac McCarthy.

[[ETM]]

Twilight is wish fulfillment and it's almost critic-proof. My girlfriend has been reading the Twilight books, as well as the Sookie Stackhouse novels, just out of curiosity, and while Charlaine Harris can write some entertaining trash, the Twilight books are just horrifyingly bad.

[Morris Schæffer]

Um, the problem with both this and Twilight is that people don't realize the books are terrible.

I've realized Dragon Tattoo is a pretty good book. My God, there's another option. :P

[Ezee E]

Dragon Tattoo got you to stop reading too? The same happened to Cormac McCarthy.
Yeah? What'd he say? Haha.

[Morris Schæffer]

Dragon Tattoo got you to stop reading too? The same happened to Cormac McCarthy.

Having tried reading The Road, and failing, I can imagine McCarthy not giving a damn about what one might call a novel with a more traditional, straightforward narrative. I'm not criticizing McCarthy's work though, but both books are so vastly dissimilar that it's easy to prefer one particular kind of style.

[number8]

Yeah? What'd he say? Haha.

Well, okay, he didn't specifically say it got him to stop reading. But in his Oprah interview she asked him what recent books he liked, and he said he hadn't read anything new in the past couple of years except "that Dragon Tattoo book," which he didn't even finish because it rambled on and on about nothing without anything happening.

[number8]

Having tried reading The Road, and failing, I can imagine McCarthy not giving a damn about what one might call a novel with a more traditional, straightforward narrative. I'm not criticizing McCarthy's work though, but both books are so vastly dissimilar that it's easy to prefer one particular kind of style.

I'm pretty sure Cormac McCarthy can enjoy straightforward narratives.

[Ezee E]

Well, okay, he didn't specifically say it got him to stop reading. But in his Oprah interview she asked him what recent books he liked, and he said he hadn't read anything new in the past couple of years except "that Dragon Tattoo book," which he didn't even finish because it rambled on and on about nothing without anything happening.
That's basically why I hated it.

[Morris Schæffer]

Nothing happened? What a ridiculously nonsensical thing to say. So when Fincher's adaptation will be released, it will be a movie in which nothing happens? So I guess nothing happens in Se7en either?

Barty has seen the original. I'd like to know from him what happens in that? I wonder if there's, like, ya know, stuff happening.

[Morris Schæffer]

Trent Reznor to score

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=29852

[Ivan Drago]

Trent Reznor to score

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=29852

yes. Yes! YES!!!

[Ezee E]

I'm going to bet that this won't come out until Summer 2012. It hasn't even started shooting yet, and Fincher takes a while to shoot.

[Henry Gale]

I'm going to bet that this won't come out until Summer 2012. It hasn't even started shooting yet, and Fincher takes a while to shoot.

I'm pretty sure they've been filming it since Social Network's release. Fincher seemed to use it as an excuse for not doing much press around that time.

[Ezee E]

I'm pretty sure they've been filming it since Social Network's release. Fincher seemed to use it as an excuse for not doing much press around that time.
Ha. You're right.

Smart man Fincher is.

[Henry Gale]

In terms of the Reznor news (which I'm assuming means Atticus Ross as well), I know I still really enjoy listening to the soundtrack they just did for the last film enough for the idea of another collaboration's release before the end of the year has me very excited (even if it's an entirely different animal).

I still feel like without the score and its often strangely beautiful textures, The Social Network would find itself feeling a lot more generic. I know when I think back to some scenes, I forget what made them really stand out since the way they're put together visually and script-wise don't seem too radical, but then I turn to a track from the soundtrack and it all clicks back into my nicely as a key ingredient to much of its success for me.

[Ezee E]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/199/original/RooneyLiz2.jpg?1294871524

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/198/original/RooneyLiz1.jpg?1294871506

Why Fincher, why?

[Kurosawa Fan]

They definitely succeeded in uglying her up.

[Watashi]

They definitely succeeded in uglying her up.
I'd still hit it.

[Kurosawa Fan]

No. Not without eyebrows and a cigarette hanging out of her mouth. Not a chance.

[Ivan Drago]

Why Fincher, why?

For uglying her up? Yeah I'm sad too. :sad:

[Winston*]

Impressive commitment to the role, considering eyebrows never grow back.

[Mara]

Impressive commitment to the role, considering eyebrows never grow back.

Don't they? They grow back when plucked or waxed, why not shaved?

[Duncan]

Wait, she has her own name tattooed across her chest?

[Ezee E]

Wait, she has her own name tattooed across her chest?
Yeah, weird move there.

Fairly sure eyebrows grow back though. Just very slowly.

[Philosophe_rouge]

of course eyebrows grow back :/

[Winston*]

Bad joke.

[Ezee E]

Bad joke.

Or... you learn something new every day.

[Morris Schæffer]

That looks awesome. This movie will be awesome!


Few expected the famously meticulous Fincher to glam up the character for her Hollywood makeover, and so it has proved to be, with Mara looking worlds away from the Erica Albright character that delivers the hard truth to Jesse Eisenberg’s Mark Zuckerberg at the start of The Social Network. Here, as is entirely fitting for Salander, Mara would be more likely to stab him with a sex toy before lighting a cigarette and striding from the room.
Talking of assault with a deadly dildo, a scene featuring just that was apparently part of the intensive audition process that Fincher put several actresses through. “It was hard,” Fincher tells W (via JoBlo (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=35488)). “We had five or six girls audition with the rape scene. The girls had to kick a dildo up his ass. That’s Salander’s big scene, and we had to see if they could do it.”
And he was especially tough on Mara. “David added the rape scene at the last minute, and I said, ‘Ohmigod! They must be really serious.’ They did one test, then another a week later. They shot me in the subway in LA in full hair and makeup with a motorcycle. Every day they had a new request. On a Monday morning, David called me in, and I said, ‘What do you want me to do to my hair now?’ I was at the end of my rope. He told me I had the part. I hadn’t even read the script yet.”
“Before I read the book, I didn’t think I could do it. Locked myself in a room for a week and read all three books, and decided I really wanted to be Lisbeth. But I thought I had no shot at it.” Despite competition from the likes of Scarlett Johansson and Winter’s Bone actress Jennifer Lawrence, Mara won out.

[Sxottlan]

http://www.wmagazine.com/images/celebrities/2011/02/cess_rooney_mara_05_v.jpg

http://www.wmagazine.com/images/celebrities/2011/02/cess_rooney_mara_06_v.jpg

[Ezee E]

The bottom two pics are a little more like it. But still, I really hope the script is much different then the book.

[Morris Schæffer]

She's young however. There's always sexual tension between Salander and Blomkvist, but Daniel Craig could well be Mara's father in terms of age.


The bottom two pics are a little more like it. But still, I really hope the script is much different then the book.

Any particular changes you'd like to see?

[number8]

"We're gonna out-edge those Swedes!"

[DavidSeven]

Yeah, it looks like they're trying way too hard. She looks so phony in those pictures.

[D_Davis]

I've seen that chick before. I think she works at the Hot Topic in the mall.

[eternity]

Mara has a pretty face. This would look more than fine if they kept everything the same and didn't try to make her face look like Marilyn Manson.

[B-side]

I still have no desire to see this. At all. Same applies to the original.

[number8]

I like that we're complaining that they altered her from our idea of beauty.

[Winston*]

There's always sexual tension between Salander and Blomkvist

There shouldn't be. Stupid book.

[eternity]

There shouldn't be. Stupid book.
It is a stupid book. This isn't why.

[Winston*]

It is a stupid book. This isn't why.

Yes it is.

[number8]

The bottom two pics are a little more like it. But still, I really hope the script is much different then the book.

Apparently it is. Fincher altered the personality of the two main characters slightly (Rooney Mara's Lisbeth is supposedly much more violent and aggressive than the book's) and completely rewrote the ending.

[Raiders]

I wonder if this will be a film or a movie.

[megladon8]

Yeah, it looks way-forced and over-the-top, but really, so did Noomi Rapace.

The main difference for me is that Rapace looked like she had graduated high school.

[Ezee E]

She is suppose to be over-the-top but I think the self-esteem isn't quite there for her to tattoo her name on her chest.

[megladon8]

Was that first shot of her being tattoo'd a still from the movie? Or was it a shot of Mara in costume posing as if getting a tattoo?

[Bosco B Thug]

Was that first shot of her being tattoo'd a still from the movie? Or was it a shot of Mara in costume posing as if getting a tattoo? I believe this was just a photo shoot for some magazine.

Have they started shooting this yet? Is this going to be Fincher's next release? *doesn't keep up with the trades*

I know absolutely nothing about this franchise. It's way popular, though. Fincher's film is gonna end up being my first exposure to it.

[megladon8]

It's an internationally best selling series of novels that many serious readers / book critics claim to be not very good (including most of MatchCut).

I believe the movie is being released later this year.

[Chac Mool]

Fincher knows what he's doing, and has never failed to make an interesting film. He's earned the benefit of the doubt.

[Grouchy]

Fincher knows what he's doing, and has never failed to make an interesting film. He's earned the benefit of the doubt.
I agree with that and I have an enormous amount of trust in Fincher. What's more, I know this will most likely be a good movie.

My problem is very simple - I just couldn't bring myself to watch an American remake of something that's not even two years old.

[transmogrifier]

Solution: Don't read the novels and don't watch the movies that have already been made. Works for me.

[megladon8]

My problem is very simple - I just couldn't bring myself to watch an American remake of something that's not even two years old.


Let Me In is supposed to be pretty great.

[Morris Schæffer]

I saw the first Swedish movie, but found it surprisingly mediocre, like a glorified TV movie, cinematographically flat.

There's much potential here for improvement. Fincher will improve massively on the original.

[Grouchy]

Let Me In is supposed to be pretty great.
I won't watch it for the same reason.

[Dukefrukem]

Are we using this thread to discuss the original too? Just watched the first movie over the weekend. It wasn't too bad. It definitely was longer than it needed to be. I found the ending to be very anticlimactic... is that how it ended in the book?

[Morris Schæffer]

Are we using this thread to discuss the original too? Just watched the first movie over the weekend. It wasn't too bad. It definitely was longer than it needed to be. I found the ending to be very anticlimactic... is that how it ended in the book?

Gotta say that it didn't feel anti-climactic in the book. True, I hadn't anticipated the final whereabouts of Harriet Vanger, but even so the mystery is far more persuasive in the book, especially the hazy figure (her brother Martin) Mikael Blomkvist spots in the picture from 40 decades ago. It really builds and builds in the novel, but in the movie it never really does, clues seem like they're deciphered far more easily. I think the ending makes sense. The entire movie has been a search for Harriet and and she either could have been dead or alive somewhere else. But the atrocities committed by her family, everything feels more disturbing, horrendous. I guess that made the climax perfectly fine for me in book form.

[Dukefrukem]

Gotta say that it didn't feel anti-climactic in the book. True, I hadn't anticipated the final whereabouts of Harriet Vanger, but even so the mystery is far more persuasive in the book, especially the hazy figure (her brother Martin) Mikael Blomkvist spots in the picture from 40 decades ago. It really builds and builds in the novel, but in the movie it never really does, clues seem like they're deciphered far more easily. I think the ending makes sense. The entire movie has been a search for Harriet and and she either could have been dead or alive somewhere else. But the atrocities committed by her family, everything feels more disturbing, horrendous. I guess that made the climax perfectly fine for me in book form.


Since the Movie was entitled "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" and because of the previous scene with the rapist/probation officer, I thought for sure the Girl would have some kind of vengeance role against Martin. Instead he drives himself off the road? :lol: I realize she was the one who discovered the secret but that's not very dramatic on screen. Like you said, probably translated better in the book.

[Raiders]

I won't watch it for the same reason.

Actually, they're both adaptations of a book. Who says the the first one there must be the definitive one? Seems quite silly.

[number8]

Actually, they're both adaptations of a book. Who says the the first one there must be the definitive one? Seems quite silly.

You snooze, you lose.

[Barty]

Trailer is interesting as always from Fincher. Looks gorgeous, and has the best tagline in a while:

The Feel Bad Movie of Christmas

[Morris Schæffer]

Where is this trailer you speak of?

[Henry Gale]

Trailer was indeed insane. The theatre seemed to have no idea what to make of it once it was done, awkward pauses and huh?'s abound. Probably didn't help that the footage was intermittently gruesome (definitely red-band, but I'm Canadian so I'm not ever sure what the rules are for showing those) and it followed not one but three wacky comedy trailers (The Change-Up, Horrible Bosses and Crazy Stupid Love). But not only does it look awesome, it also gives us an idea as to where Reznor and Ross may be going with the soundtrack for it, without saying much else.

I can definitely say I'm looking forward to this now.

[Barty]

Where is this trailer you speak of?

My theatres projector hard drive. :)

[Morris Schæffer]

My theatres projector hard drive. :)

I realized this right after typing it. :)

[baby doll]

Fincher knows what he's doing, and has never failed to make an interesting film.*Cough* Benjamin Button *Cough*

[number8]

*Cough* Benjamin Button *Cough*

Was an interesting film.

[Ezee E]

*Cough* Benjamin Button *Cough*
I'll agree here. It's the only one of his I'd never watch again.

[Bosco B Thug]

'Benjamin Button' is an interesting boring film, if for its splendorous visual beauty alone. This is as opposed to Seven, which is a boring interesting film.


Looks like I'll be seeing Hangover 2, so I better see this.

[Henry Gale]

Bootleg / cam version of the trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kOFGI0p6SM)

It didn't hit me as hard seeing it again on a small screen being able to actually decipher some of the images at a significantly lower volume and quality, so I'd recommend just waiting for the proper (and HD) release of it. But if you want to see it, there it is.

[Spinal]

I usually like Fincher, but it's hard to get too excited about this when I already know that the story is drivel.

[Watashi]

Was that Karen O?

[Ezee E]

Was that Karen O?
Yep.

[eternity]

The Feel Bad Movie of Christmas

I guess we know what category this falls under.

[B-side]

Kinda dug the trailer. Want a better version to really judge, though.

[Spinal]

Best Actress nomination a lock ... yes?

[Winston*]

Best Actress nomination a lock ... yes?

Supporting.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I usually like Fincher, but it's hard to get too excited about this when I already know that the story is drivel.

My thoughts exactly.

[Ezee E]

If Noomi Rapace can almost get an Oscar nomination, it'll be a disappointment for the movie if Rooney Mara doesn't.

Saw the bootleg trailer. Sure looks Fincher. Despite hating the book, I think I'll see it.

[Irish]

I usually like Fincher, but it's hard to get too excited about this when I already know that the story is drivel.

He's managed to make bad sci fi almost good (Alien 3) and make an interesting movie out of a mystery where the conclusion is already known (Zodiac).

If anyone can take a shite premise like this one and make it watchable, it'd be him (Button notwithstanding).

[megladon8]

Is the actual story terrible?

I was under the impression it was a neat story, just very poorly written.

[Irish]

Is the actual story terrible?

Like everything else in the book, it's pretty shallow. The main plot has all the complexity of your standard Law & Order episode.

You know that scene out of classic detective fiction where the rich old client lays out the mystery for the detective to investigate?

If you've seen a good share of crime thrillers and tv murder stories, you'll figure out exactly what happened before the detective opens his mouth with a single question. Unfortunately, in Dragon Tattoo, this scene happens around page 100 and it's something like a 600 page book.

[Winston*]

I wish I could find the Larsson parody I read that focuses on the way he writes about computers. All I can find is an unfunny one by Nora Ephron.

[Spinal]

Supporting.

:lol:

[transmogrifier]

Like everything else in the book, it's pretty shallow. The main plot has all the complexity of your standard Law & Order episode. .

Cool, I've seen a few excellent episodes of Law & Order. Complexity (and thus simplicity) is one of those things, like voice-over or actors, that is not inherently positive or negative - it all depends on execution. Some of my favourite movies ever are as simple as all hell,

[Irish]

Cool, I've seen a few excellent episodes of Law & Order. Complexity (and thus simplicity) is one of those things, like voice-over or actors, that is not inherently positive or negative - it all depends on execution. Some of my favourite movies ever are as simple as all hell,

That's nice.

Seriously, read the book. I dare you.

[Ezee E]

Well, I wouldn't say it's that easy to solve. But it's never really that compelling to care about. Lisbeth's story was interesting to me, but once she gets on the case... It's pretty boring from thereon out.

With that, I think Fincher will be able to test new ground with the first act of her story. Something he's never done before.

[transmogrifier]

That's nice.

Seriously, read the book. I dare you.

I'll pass. I'm waiting for the movie.

[Morris Schæffer]

I thought it was a great mystery. Kept me hooked. The family angle was a somewhat original touch especially that the actual villains were amongst them

The movie on the whole seems right up fincher's alley.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49824

Here it is. Looks great

[D_Davis]

A lot of constant readers I know IRL who read a lot of mystery/crime fiction, love the books.

Match Cut seems to be a bastion of hate towards these.

It's like the Murakami effect.

[Spinal]

Match Cut seems to be a bastion of hate towards these.


It's not just us. I recently saw a play in which the script referred to the character reading a book that was very popular but also not very good. For this production, the character was holding The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. Big laugh from the audience.

[Irish]

I thought it was a great mystery. Kept me hooked. The family angle was a somewhat original touch especially that the actual villains were amongst them

I can't point to specific examples without spoiling other works for you, but suffice to say: This isn't close to being an original touch. (And that would be fine if the execution was handled in a fresh or interesting way, but it's not. It's pretty much standard crime thriller fare.)

[Ezee E]

20 million copies have been sold. Some people seem to like it.

[D_Davis]

It's not just us. I recently saw a play in which the script referred to the character reading a book that was very popular but also not very good. For this production, the character was holding The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. Big laugh from the audience.

Sounds like a bunch of elitist liberal theater snobs.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I know quite a few people IRL who think it's awful, and quite a few who think it's great. It's intensely fascinating, this phenomenon of varied opinions.

[Spinal]

Sounds like a bunch of elitist liberal theater snobs.

And then we puffed on our pipes and said, "How droll. How exceedingly droll."

[D_Davis]

And then we puffed on our pipes and said, "How droll. How exceedingly droll."

I bet you ate caviar on white crackers after the performance.

[Dukefrukem]

There are a lot of scenes in that trailer I don't recognize from the original.

[megladon8]

A lot of constant readers I know IRL who read a lot of mystery/crime fiction, love the books.

Match Cut seems to be a bastion of hate towards these.

It's like the Murakami effect.


Yes, I've found this as well.

I'm consistently recommended these books not only by "casual" readers, but also by people who are very "well read" and have what I would consider to be pretty good taste in books both fiction and non-fiction.

[Morris Schæffer]

I can't point to specific examples without spoiling other works for you, but suffice to say: This isn't close to being an original touch. (And that would be fine if the execution was handled in a fresh or interesting way, but it's not. It's pretty much standard crime thriller fare.)

Well, let's just say that in the realm of movie mysteries, this might make for a somewhat original film. A true original like Inception? No, probably not, but as far as serial killer/mysteries, I feel this has an edge. Although I suppose we'd have to add "discounting the Swedish original."

[Kiusagi]

I kinda wish I had seen this in theaters first, so I could have a "Holy shit it's TGWTDT" moment. But yeah, I'm pretty crazy about this trailer. I haven't read the books or seen the Swedish originals, but as a huge Fincher fan, this is easily my most anticipated right now.

Though I do agree with some of you, it's a little disappointing that Fincher has signed on for the whole trilogy. You'd think he'd want to move on to something else. But maybe he and Zaillian just have some big ideas for the series.

[BuffaloWilder]

Perhaps we could say that this might very well not be narratively original or unique, but formally and stylistically instead.

And, what's wrong with that? Trailer looks great.

[Ezee E]

Is he still committing to doing all three at once? Or will he do his 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea 3D remake in between?

[Kiusagi]

I believe I read the next two will be shot back-to-back, assuming Columbia picks up the option. So he could do something before them, but if Dragon Tattoo is a success, Columbia will probably want to get right on it.

[number8]

I know quite a few people IRL who think it's awful, and quite a few who think it's great. It's intensely fascinating, this phenomenon of varied opinions.

It's definitely not just us. This book is the new Da Vinci Code.

[number8]

Also, I don't think it's just the prose, since the Swedish films are trash, too. It's a pretty dumb story with a really annoyingly chauvinistic male fulfillment fantasy.

[Mara]

I know quite a few people IRL who think it's awful, and quite a few who think it's great. It's intensely fascinating, this phenomenon of varied opinions.

I was sold on the book by a rave review in the Washington Post that really, really made it sound like something I would like. The English translation had just come out.

So, I blind bought it off the new releases rack with every intention of loving it.

And I totally hated it.

So, I don't think it's just about reacting to the hype. I think it's genuinely a bad book and the love it gets is baffling to me.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I was sold on the book by a rave review in the Washington Post that really, really made it sound like something I would like. The English translation had just come out.

So, I blind bought it off the new releases rack with every intention of loving it.

And I totally hated it.

So, I don't think it's just about reacting to the hype. I think it's genuinely a bad book and the love it gets is baffling to me.

You know when I read it, as you warned me against it, but I read it at the very beginning of the hype machine, and to be honest it's not as though literary hype outside of Harry Potter is even a blip on most radars, but the hype had nothing to do with my dislike either. I have no issues jumping on bandwagons. I did so with HP. Didn't read the first one until the fourth or fifth had come out, and then read them all to get caught up rather quickly. Dragon Tattoo is just a poorly written, misogynistic, dull little mystery tale. I cannot fathom why it has caught on like it has.

[number8]

Dragon Tattoo is just a poorly written, misogynistic, dull little mystery tale.

Do not get me started on the people who try to claim that it's a feminist book.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Do not get me started on the people who try to claim that it's a feminist book.

Insane. Those people are willfully ignorant.

[Spinal]

Also, I don't think it's just the prose, since the Swedish films are trash, too. It's a pretty dumb story with a really annoyingly chauvinistic male fulfillment fantasy.

Yeah, I've never read it. I'm basing my opinion solely on the film version, which I thought was bewilderingly unexceptional storywise. The best thing that film had going for it was that Noomi Rapace made for some pretty excellent publicity photos.

[Mara]

Do not get me started on the people who try to claim that it's a feminist book.

So confusing.

[Spinal]

Feminist = female character getting revenge after being raped. I mean, that's what I learned in my English Lit classes. Didn't you?

[Mara]

Feminist = female character getting revenge after being raped. I mean, that's what I learned in my English Lit classes. Didn't you?

Getting revenge by allowing herself to be raped... again.

I'm sick just thinking about it.

[Ezee E]

Can't say I've ever heard of it being feminist. But it doesn't surprise me because anything that seems to have a main female character seems to get that label.

[Spinal]

Can't say I've ever heard of it being feminist. But it doesn't surprise me because anything that seems to have a main female character seems to get that label.

She's not really even the protagonist though.

[Ezee E]

She's not really even the protagonist though.
True, but you understand my point still, right?

Remove "the girl" and I don't think you'd have a best seller or anything.

[Sven]

Feminist = female character getting revenge after being raped. I mean, that's what I learned in my English Lit classes. Didn't you?

:lol:

[Spinal]

True, but you understand my point still, right?

Remove "the girl" and I don't think you'd have a best seller or anything.

Yeah, definitely. People respond strongly to the character type, for whatever reason. I know I did. Which is why I found the actual story disappointing.

[number8]

The original Swedish title of the book was Men Who Hate Women. The author wanted it to be a female empowerment book.

I'm not as quick to throw the misogynist label just based on the gleefully graphic description of her rape, as I believe that can be important to sustain viewer empathy for a character, but I do find it chauvinistic that the main character is a blatant self-insert of the journalist author and OH FOR SOME REASON a number of supposedly strong independent female characters in the stories, including those who have lesbian relationships, helplessly fall in love and/or want to have sex with him.

[Barty]

I fail to see how it's anti-feminist for a female character who has been abused, and literally raped by authority figures and the system, to justifiably enact retribution when nobody else will. Taking things into your own hands seems pretty empowering to me.

I've only seen the film, but the first one if one of my favorites.

[Sven]

I fail to see how it's anti-feminist for a female character who has been abused, and literally raped by authority figures and the system, to justifiably enact retribution when nobody else will. Taking things into your own hands seems pretty empowering to me.

You are failing to see it because you are keeping it at a fairly simple level. I fail to see how it's anti-feminist, because come on... it's ABOUT a woman! Amirite?

[number8]

I don't think anybody said it was anti-feminist.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/thegirlwiththedragontattoo/

High-def

[Ezee E]

That's an amazingly cut teaser.

[B-side]

That's an amazingly cut teaser.

Indeed. I love it more and more the more I see it.

[Ivan Drago]

Would it be wrong to say the original Swedish film is a great mystery told in the dullest way possible? Also thought Blomkvist was a dull protagonist too, and the ending feels anticlimactic after Martin's death.

From the looks of the awesome teaser, though, Fincher has already improved over the original.

[Morris Schæffer]

You're right on the money Ivan even if most here think the story sucks too. :D

But not me though. I thought the Swedish original was close to a glorified tv movie, not once coming close to the spine-tingling mystery and horror of the book.

And now, if you'll forgive me, I'm going to make a run for it before the assault begins.:D

[Dukefrukem]

Saw this trailer at X-men, in one of the special optimized sound theaters and it blew me away. It felt like they turned up the bass to MAX for only this trailer.

Anyone know who does the cover of that song?

[number8]

Anyone know who does the cover of that song?

Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. Karen O did the vocals.

[Ezee E]

Waiting for the full song to come out...

[megladon8]

Love how it just ended with the big word "COMING".


They should have said "CUMMING SOON"

[Rowland]

I guess I'll be the one who admits to not liking the trailer. It's just a haphazard jumble of images too quickly cut to resonate for anyone who isn't familiar with the material, and even as someone who recognizes most of the imagery from the original film, it doesn't do anything for me. The score sounds cool though, and it's certainly very pretty. The background image for the trailer's page is kinda off-putting.

[transmogrifier]

I guess I'll be the one who admits to not liking the trailer. It's just a haphazard jumble of images too quickly cut to resonate for anyone who isn't familiar with the material, and even as someone who recognizes most of the imagery from the original film, it doesn't do anything for me. The score sounds cool though, and it's certainly very pretty. The background image for the trailer's page is kinda off-putting.

Disagree. I don't know a single thing about the story, and yet the trailer played very well for me. I don't need resonance in a trailer - just something that is cut and presented in a way that gives you an idea about the way the movie is going to be directed/presented. I can read any old plot synopsis to know whether I'm likely to enjoy the premise and story - from a trailer, I need evidence of the approach. This is a good trailer in that regard.

Now, it might not end up being an accurate representation, but that's the risk you run with trusting trailers.

[Ezee E]

They should have said "CUMMING SOON"

This guy's full of jokes!

[DavidSeven]

Still think they reached too far with Rooney Mara. Pretty unconvincing.

[Bosco B Thug]

It's just a haphazard jumble of images It's pretty silly. And, as someone who is not familiar at all with the story, it's almost-comically meaningless. But I still was really into the trailer when I saw it before X-Men.

I'm easy. Cut on a dynamic action or flash me a woman reaching out her hand wantingly (or staring into the camera transcendentally) and I'm gotten.

[B-side]

I guess I'll be the one who admits to not liking the trailer. It's just a haphazard jumble of images too quickly cut to resonate for anyone who isn't familiar with the material

Not really. And it's hardly haphazardly edited. In fact, the pulsing timing of the editing really elevates the trailer. The relatively brief clips tease wonderfully while giving a great impression of the film's visual approach.

[Rowland]

Not really. And it's hardly haphazardly edited. In fact, the pulsing timing of the editing really elevates the trailer. The relatively brief clips tease wonderfully while giving a great impression of the film's visual approach.I didn't mean haphazardly edited. It is obviously edited at a strict tempo that it adheres to for the entire trailer, I just meant in the sense of how the images are arranged. I feel like you could rearrange the trailer at random and it'd produce the same result, which is that its impact is of a more impressionistic sort. Which I suppose isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'm kind of just being a fogey about the trailer being too quickly and monotonously (some would say hypnotically I'm sure) cut for my taste.

[B-side]

I didn't mean haphazardly edited. It is obviously edited at a strict tempo that it adheres to for the entire trailer, I just meant in the sense of how the images are arranged. I feel like you could rearrange the trailer at random and it'd produce the same result, which is that its impact is of a more impressionistic sort. Which I suppose isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'm kind of just being a fogey about the trailer being too quickly and monotonously (some would say hypnotically I'm sure) cut for my taste.

Yeah, I'd say hypnotically.:P

[number8]

I just like the song and the cuts to it. Didn't really pay attention to the images contained.

[Sxottlan]

I was not expecting that kind of trailer for this movie. Cool.

[megladon8]

I really want that song.

Has anyone heard anything about it being released as a single sometime soon?

[DavidSeven]

I was pretty whatever on the trailer when I viewed it online, but this freakin' plays in the theater. The crowd reaction was pretty palpable (and amusingly confused) afterward. Love moments like that.

[Rowland]

I was pretty whatever on the trailer when I viewed it online, but this freakin' plays in the theater. Agreed. It helps when it's sandwiched between trailers for the Jim-Carrey-with-CGI-penguins movie and the one where Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman switch bodies.

[Ezee E]

I was pretty whatever on the trailer when I viewed it online, but this freakin' plays in the theater. The crowd reaction was pretty palpable (and amusingly confused) afterward. Love moments like that.
Definitely gauged interest though. whatever it was...

[number8]

Fincher got his wish. New poster is NSFW.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/2/2011/06/dragon-tattoo-uncensored_thumb.jpg

[B-side]

I would have sex with her.

[soitgoes...]

I would have sex with her.
It could be a picture of Kathy Bates, and you'd have the same response.

[B-side]

It could be a picture of Kathy Bates, and you'd have the same response.

Misery Kathy Bates or About Schmidt Kathy Bates?

[soitgoes...]

About Schmidt Kathy Bates?so hot.

[Ezee E]

Change the text, and you could still have that as the poster for the Bond movie.

[B-side]

so hot.

The hottest.

[Spinal]

The poster really speaks to the feminist themes that are so vital to the story.

[Ezee E]

A friend of mine, "But she doesn't even have a dragon tattoo."

[megladon8]

The poster really speaks to the feminist themes that are so vital to the story.


Just like how Cameron Diaz in Bad Teacher is a great feminist character, wanting a boob job and all.

[Irish]

Fincher got his wish. New poster is NSFW.

I'm lost. Fan art or did someone in marketing actually spend money producing a poster that can't be displayed anywhere in America?

[Spinal]

I'm lost. Fan art or did someone in marketing actually spend money producing a poster that can't be displayed anywhere in America?

I'm assuming that the way we're viewing it right now is the way it was intended to be distributed.

[number8]

I'm lost. Fan art or did someone in marketing actually spend money producing a poster that can't be displayed anywhere in America?

Fincher shot and designed the poster himself. He's been saying since last year how he wants this to be displayed in theaters across America and jokingly said he's going to fight for it.

This is just released for the internet, obviously. The theatrical poster has some nipple blockage:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/The_Girl_with_the_Dragon_Tatto o_Poster.jpg

[Henry Gale]

This is just released for the internet, obviously. The theatrical poster has some nipple blockage:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/The_Girl_with_the_Dragon_Tatto o_Poster.jpg

I think that version is even more absurd because it shows all you need to do to make it acceptable is to cover up 1/1000th of the image, even leaving the piercing over the number blockage in case anyone really didn't know where the nipple should be.

[Derek]

I didn't mean haphazardly edited. It is obviously edited at a strict tempo that it adheres to for the entire trailer, I just meant in the sense of how the images are arranged. I feel like you could rearrange the trailer at random and it'd produce the same result, which is that its impact is of a more impressionistic sort. Which I suppose isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'm kind of just being a fogey about the trailer being too quickly and monotonously (some would say hypnotically I'm sure) cut for my taste.

I'm with you, Rowly. It also didn't help that I thought the "Immigrant Song" cover was pretty terrible. Only seen it the once before X-Men though.

[Derek]

I think that version is even more absurd because it shows all you need to do to make it acceptable is to cover up 1/1000th of the image, even leaving the piercing over the number blockage in case anyone really didn't know where the nipple should be.

America's pro-boob, anti-areola campaign continues to confound me.

[megladon8]

I think that version is even more absurd because it shows all you need to do to make it acceptable is to cover up 1/1000th of the image, even leaving the piercing over the number blockage in case anyone really didn't know where the nipple should be.


Yeah, I don't get why blocking just the nipple brings it down to an acceptable level for public display (not that I think the nude body should be unacceptable in the first place).

Particularly silly in a case like this, where Rooney Mara's nipples are quite small. So we can see the entire curvature and bare flesh of her breasts, but that one, tiny little area that's of a slightly darker colour is sinful and inappropriate?

Puh-leez.

[Spinal]

America's pro-boob, anti-areola campaign continues to confound me.

Stop trying to undermine society.

[Bosco B Thug]

I really do love the poster, though, either way. I saw it on a theater wall and it really distinguishes itself, nip or no nip. Leave it to Fincher to demand such boldly conceptual marketing.

[number8]

It really is just the areola that constitutes nudity, because you can just photoshop nipples out of a woman's tits and display a topless photo on a billboard, no problem.

[Watashi]

My theater was forced to remove the poster after we got an email from corporate.

[number8]

My theater was forced to remove the poster after we got an email from corporate.

What did they say?

[Watashi]

Didn't read it. Probably something about being inappropriate or something. Regal theaters are so PG and family-friendly. We couldn't display any Kick-Ass posters either.

[Ezee E]

Fairly sure that's exactly what Fincher wants. Give it time until we see it on Fox News or something.

[Kiusagi]

My theater was forced to remove the poster after we got an email from corporate.

I am willing to take the poster off your theater's hands.

[Watashi]

I am willing to take the poster off your theater's hands.
Someone already took it.

[Henry Gale]

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Already loving this, whether that's a major theme used in movie (like "Hand Covers Bruise" last time around) or not, it's going to be great. That siren-y synth that comes and goes with that main hook, brings the whole thing together in such an oddly beautiful way.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/08/10/18-character-images-bios-released-for-the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo

18 character bios'es.

[MadMan]

I liked the trailer, although I'm not sure it really gave me any reason to think if the movie will be good or not. I'll try and check out the original first.

[BuffaloWilder]

I liked the trailer, although I'm not sure it really gave me any reason to think if the movie will be good or not. I'll try and check out the original first.


This joke might be a little played out by this point, but somebody post that MADMAN picture. You guys know the one.

[MadMan]

This joke might be a little played out by this point, but somebody post that MADMAN picture. You guys know the one.Well my post actually made sense. How many times has a movie had an awesome trailer, only to be disappointing or terrible? Exactly.

[Morris Schæffer]

The original is stunningly mediocre Madman. Give it a wide berth. :D

[MadMan]

The original is stunningly mediocre Madman. Give it a wide berth. :DHuh. I heard that the books are terrible, but I thought I'd give the movies a bit of the doubt.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=31913

Last-minute casting. Charles Widmore joins, Ben Linus in talks.

[B-side]

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Great new trailer. Nicely shot.

[Ezee E]

Wonderfully edited. It's like a 3.5 minute version of the whole thing. It sucks that I don't care for the source material, but I will be curious how Fincher chooses to end this.

[Boner M]

Cool movie, 3.5 stars.

[Watashi]

This trailer is like the exact opposite of the teaser.

[MadMan]

I greatly preferred that to the outlandish over the top teaser.

[transmogrifier]

Yeah, down with novelty in trailers! Give me the same old tired format again and again!

[MadMan]

Yeah, down with novelty in trailers! Give me the same old tired format again and again!
The teaser was novel? What? I've seen that style of teaser in many other teasers. How was it novel, trans? Do tell, sir. Do tell.

[Irish]

Wait, did I miss something? All along I thought they were going to Anglicize the story, similar to Insomnia. But this looks more like of an English translation.

Good trailer, but

I think the ending is gonna piss people off in an M Knight Shalyman kind of way.

[Morris Schæffer]

I think the ending is gonna piss people off in an M Knight Shalyman kind of way.

***BIG SPOILER GUYS***

Assuming it ends like the book in that Blomkvist finds a 66-year old Harriet Vanger living in Australia?

Don't know why this would piss people off. It's a perfectly reasonable & logical conclusion.

[dreamdead]

Watching this trailer reminded me too much of the Swedish film, which is among the most superfluous of things I've watched all year. I'm fearful Fincher's craft will be the only upgrade, and that he won't be able to transform the material into anything better.

First trailer suggested excitement, this one suggests tedium.

[number8]

I feel like the only reason I'm going to see this movie (and I probably will) is to listen to the music.

[Ivan Drago]

I feel like the only reason I'm going to see this movie (and I probably will) is to listen to the music.

Yeah. As well-cut the trailer is, it also reminds me of how dull the story is, and how much I disliked the ending.

[Ezee E]

Fairly sure that Fincher's said a few times that he has changed the ending. Or maybe I made that up.

[Morris Schæffer]

If the story is indeed dull, then how is Zodiac any different? Both are mysteries, chases for an elusive killer, both are sort of investigative in nature, devoid of overt action scenes. Is it because the events of the 2007 film really happened that that grants it immunity of some kind? Sure, Dragon Tattoo is more sensational, like Seven in that it has a more cinematic story, but I would argue that as far as serial killer movies are concerned Tattoo has an edge what with the whole island community harboring secrets, the girl who's been missing for forty years. Even its protagonists have whole backstories that go beyond weary cop who's seen it all, or is about to retire. For the record, I love Zodiac!!

[Irish]

He had a different problem with Zodiac, in that it was based on a true story thst had no resolution. Fincher handled it pretty inventively, although switching protagonists in the final act of your film is a bit awkward.

Problem with Dragon as a mainstream American film is that it is positioned right at an audience who's had 10 years of Law & Order SVU and 6 years of Criminal Minds. There isn't a single thing in the book that's going to play better on screen than an average two parter from either of those shows.

[transmogrifier]

The teaser was novel? What? I've seen that style of teaser in many other teasers. How was it novel, trans? Do tell, sir. Do tell.

Couldn't have been that outlandish (your word) then if it was like so many other teasers out there, right? Make up your mind.

[MadMan]

Couldn't have been that outlandish (your word) then if it was like so many other teasers out there, right? Make up your mind.:rolleyes: :|

Teaser was outlandish. There have been other outlandish trailers. Your a fucking asshole. These things are all accurate.

[[ETM]]

MADMAN.


Sorry, I had to.

[Spinal]

Your a fucking asshole.

Hey, bud. Please don't.

[transmogrifier]

:rolleyes: :|

Teaser was outlandish. There have been other outlandish trailers. Your a fucking asshole. These things are all accurate.

You did say "Do tell". So I told.

It's probably a little too late to say you're over-reacting to some harmless banter, but I'll say it anyway. Just for the record.

[B-side]

Can I politely mock MadMan's poor grammar, or is that just piling on? It's piling on. I'll go away now.

[Irish]

Can I politely mock MadMan's poor grammar, or is that just piling on? It's piling on. I'll go away now.

No need for that while I'm lurking around, friend.

YOU'RE. YOU ARE. FFS, Madman.