Porn

[number8]

The subtitle of this thread mentions Playboy, yet we still have not discussed skin mags.

So begin.

[Kurosawa Fan]

People still buy skin magazines?

[Raiders]

People still buy skin magazines?

Well, I accidentally shorted out my laptop in the bathroom one time, so I like to have the physical copies from now on...

[Kurosawa Fan]

Well, I accidentally shorted out my laptop in the bathroom one time, so I like to have the physical copies from now on...

Hmm. Perhaps I need to change my ways before I incur similar damage.

[Ezee E]

Hmm. Perhaps I need to change my ways before I incur similar damage.
That's why we no longer see Father Barry.

[number8]

Has anyone heard of Boink?

[Watashi]

We have a lesbian erotica section at my Borders. We also have a giant stash of gay manga with "questionable" covers.

[megladon8]

I've actually never been too into porn, because I find so many porn women to be very unattractive.

The fake blonde hair, enormous fake breasts with stretched nipples, and generally slutty aura are not traits I find very appealing.


EDIT: BTW, only number8 could've gotten away with starting this thread...I commend you, sir. :)

[number8]

I call it my forte.

I recommend Boink, folks. Google it.

[lovejuice]

I call it my forte.

I recommend Boink, folks. Google it.

is this the one that you write for?

[number8]

is this the one that you write for?

There are writings?! :eek:

[lovejuice]

There are writings?! :eek:

i don't know. just asking. you write erotic stories for a magazine, or something, if i remember correctly?

[Watashi]

I've actually never been too into porn, because I find so many porn women to be very unattractive.

The fake blonde hair, enormous fake breasts with stretched nipples, and generally slutty aura are not traits I find very appealing.


EDIT: BTW, only number8 could've gotten away with starting this thread...I commend you, sir. :)

You read/watch the wrong porn, my friend.

[megladon8]

You read/watch the wrong porn, my friend.


I don't think I really watch enough porn to say whether I watch the "right" or "wrong" kind :)

And I've never looked at a porno magazine.

[Ezee E]

You read/watch the wrong porn, my friend.
Yeah. In the porn world, there's something out there for everyone. For meg, there's the natural hobo with hair growing from her nips. Hot!

[megladon8]

Yeah. In the porn world, there's something out there for everyone. For meg, there's the natural hobo with hair growing from her nips. Hot!


:(

Just because I don't like fake women, doesn't mean I have absolutely no taste.

[Ezee E]

:(

Just because I don't like fake women, doesn't mean I have absolutely no taste.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.

I kid meg, I kid.

[number8]

i don't know. just asking. you write erotic stories for a magazine, or something, if i remember correctly?

:)

No... I wrote a porn superhero comic once for this artist who fucking bailed with my script, but that's about it.

[D_Davis]

:)

No... I wrote a porn superhero comic once for this artist who fucking bailed with my script, but that's about it.

You got screwed.

[number8]

You got screwed.

I know. It blows.

[Ezee E]

I know. It blows.
Gotta love these posts in this thread.

[Qrazy]

Gotta love these posts in this thread.

You said post! Stiff as a post??? Heyooo!!!

[Llopin]

Henry Miller is cool.

[lovejuice]

Henry Miller is cool.

you're talking with someone who doesn't like the tropic of cancer. i have nin's lying on my bookshelf, but never find enough motivation to pick it up.

[Sycophant]

The actual writing that occurs in most "skin mags" is an abomination.

[number8]

The actual writing that occurs in most "skin mags" is an abomination.

Like Pete Hammond?

[Qrazy]

Like Pete Hammond?

Is Youth without Youth a return to form or just middling?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Henry Miller is cool.

That guy plays ping pong with style. :cool:

[jesse]

i have nin's lying on my bookshelf, but never find enough motivation to pick it up. Ohh... she's tricky one, she is. You're reading and then all of a sudden you're like "why the hell do I have a boner?!?"

[MadMan]

This thread makes me realize that I don't even watch or read porn. That just makes me feel weird.

[Sycophant]

This thread makes me realize that I don't even watch or read porn. That just makes me feel weird.So.... what do you do with it?

[MadMan]

So.... what do you do with it?Honestly I'm not sure if I want to ask for further elaboration here :lol:

[Qrazy]

Who are your favorite pornstars?

[Wryan]

Maybe it's the fact that my godmother (and favorite aunt to boot) is gay and has an awesome partner, but I can't stand lipstick lesbians. Just the concept is basically offensive to me and I don't find anything remotely arousing in such exaggerated sexual hyperbole. They look like clowns. Bring a man in to do the banging back into the mix and I'm cool with it. Hmm...that sounds a bit misogynistic, hilariously enough.

[Sven]

Maybe it's the fact that my godmother (and favorite aunt to boot) is gay and has an awesome partner, but I can't stand lipstick lesbians. Just the concept is basically offensive to me and I don't find anything remotely arousing in such exaggerated sexual hyperbole. They look like clowns. Bring a man in to do the banging back into the mix and I'm cool with it. Hmm...that sounds a bit misogynistic, hilariously enough.

This sounds a little like unwarranted prejudice. What's so bad about two people, whether they're sexy or not, getting together?

[Wryan]

This sounds a little like unwarranted prejudice. What's so bad about two people, whether they're sexy or not, getting together?

It's more that lipstick lesbians (who perform the large, large majority of lesbian porn) cater primarily (some would say exclusively) to the fantasies of men and couldn't care less about the tastes of actual lesbians.

Plus it's just personal taste.

[Sven]

It's more that lipstick lesbians (who perform the large, large majority of lesbian porn) cater primarily (some would say exclusively) to the fantasies of men and couldn't care less about the tastes of actual lesbians.

Plus it's just personal taste.

While I see what you're saying, it just struck me that your disdain was spread out to all lipstick lesbians and not just those performing in porn. I assure you, in the two months I've lived in Brooklyn I've already come across many seemingly happy and normal "lipstick" lesbian couples.

Now, I may be misunderstanding the term "lipstick lesbian", or we may be defining it differently. From what I understand, the term is applied to sexy women who are attracted to sexy women. In other words, generally speaking, women who are attracted to women in the same way that men are. While this is absolutely ripe for quality porn-making, it's also a real phenomenon. And while all their male friends may get off when they imagine what goes on in that bedroom, I think it's pretty inappropriate to suggest that their relationship is predicated entirely on male fantasy.

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lipstick lesbians (who perform the large, large majority of lesbian porn)

Are we talking about lesbian porn meant for lesbian enjoyment, or geared towards males? Because the concept of real lesbians appearing in lesbian porn is entirely new to me.

[Wryan]

While I see what you're saying, it just struck me that your disdain was spread out to all lipstick lesbians and not just those performing in porn. I assure you, in the two months I've lived in Brooklyn I've already come across many seemingly happy and normal "lipstick" lesbian couples.

Now, I may be misunderstanding the term "lipstick lesbian", or we may be defining it differently. From what I understand, the term is applied to sexy women who are attracted to sexy women. In other words, generally speaking, women who are attracted to women in the same way that men are. While this is absolutely ripe for quality porn-making, it's also a real phenomenon. And while all their male friends may get off when they imagine what goes on in that bedroom, I think it's pretty inappropriate to suggest that their relationship is predicated entirely on male fantasy.

I'm talking about the category as it exists within porn, since that's what the thread is about. Lipstick lesbian does exist within society in general, but the term as applied to porn is a little different. Check the definition on urbandictionary for both of our definitions. I agree that lipstick lesbians in society are fine, natural, no disdain for them whatsoever. I'm talking about the ones in porn. Do you think the filmmakers (heh) making lipstick lesbian porn are thinking to themselves, "Man the lipstick lesbians in society are gonna go CRAZY for this movie! I think we have a hit on our hands!"

And I said "primarily" followed by "exclusively" in parentheses to indicate the beliefs of some other people I've talked with about this topic. I don't believe, even within porn, that lipstick lesbian popularity is "entirely" predicated on male fantasy (as you ascribe to me).

So, no, I don't disdain the phenomenon in society proper, just the characterization of it in porn that seems, to me, to care mostly about how the men will receive it. I don't suggest that lipstick lesbians in society have a relationship only because the men find it "hot." That would indeed be an inappropriate (and kinda odd) suggestion.

Partially, this also boils down to the mentality that I loathe with every fibre, best expressed in that pithy phrase: "I don't mind homosexuality.....as long as the lesbians are hot."

[Wryan]

;18004']Are we talking about lesbian porn meant for lesbian enjoyment, or geared towards males? Because the concept of real lesbians appearing in lesbian porn is entirely new to me.

Well, that's kind of the entire argument. There really is very little lesbian porn truly meant for lesbians. The large majority of it couldn't care less what arouses women.

EDIT: IMO.

[[ETM]]

Well, that's kind of the entire argument. There really is very little lesbian porn truly meant for lesbians. The large majority of it couldn't care less what arouses women.

EDIT: IMO.

Well, IMO, it has more to do with actual lesbians than the porn industry... it's pretty much understood among those who enjoy lesbian porn that the women appearing in it are not real lesbians and don't act or react as they should. All of porn is make-believe, and this is no exception.

[Wryan]

;18012']Well, IMO, it has more to do with actual lesbians than the porn industry... it's pretty much understood among those who enjoy lesbian porn that the women appearing in it are not real lesbians and don't act or react as they should. All of porn is make-believe, and this is no exception.

Oh I don't know about that. Of course porn is make-believe but that doesn't mean it isn't filled to the brim with social and cultural meaning and signs. Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean that it has no/little effect on perception.

"among those who enjoy lesbian porn" Can we say this is mostly men?

"that the women appearing in it are not real lesbians and don't act or react as they should." I don't understand this part. Can you explain it a bit differently? Because how "should" a real lesbian act or react in porn/sex? I presume that the actions and movements are probably similar. So....men (mostly) "understand" that the lesbians are actors and that watching said porn is just fantasy-fulfillment? If so, why do so many froth at the mouth at the thought of similar sex in the "real" world (perhaps watching it or, even better!, participating somehow in it, i.e. the King Tut of fantasies: two women and one man)?

If porn was purely make-believe, in other words, if it was purely a fantasy realm that existed only to cathartically exorcise our sexual urges, then it would have no effect on how we are aroused in the "real" world, which obviously isn't true. Think about how, up to a while ago, anal sex in hetero porn was sort of like the last frontier, the last dangerous/edgy thing to do. Now, look at it. It's nearly the only kind of intercourse done in hetero porn, or at least seems to be the preferred. Similarly, up until a while ago, it was abnormal for a man in "real" life to think about/ask about anal sex with a woman. Was it the evolution of the act within porn that changed perception of it in wider society? I dunno, really.

Also, mucho lols for getting philosophical within the Porn thread. This is keeping me meta-chuckling. :P

[[ETM]]

Well, I was merely stating that yes, "lesbians" in porn are a fantasy geared towards men, and that porn aimed at lesbians is nearly non-existent, but that it's not a problem of the industry, but rather of the supposed target group. As for "as they should", I was referencing your comment on what arouses lesbians - the ones in porn for males obviously pretend they're enjoying themselves even though they're doing things that males like to watch instead of what's arousing for them.

I get your point on separating porn from reality, and that many can't really do that, but I'm really speaking from my own experience and can't pretend to know the definitive answers. I sincerely hope there are no twenty-somethings who expect what they see in porn in real life... :confused:

[Wryan]

;18025']I get your point on separating porn from reality, and that many can't really do that, but I'm really speaking from my own experience and can't pretend to know the definitive answers. I sincerely hope there are no twenty-somethings who expect what they see in porn in real life... :confused:

Yeah......unfortunately....... there are. :eek:

[[ETM]]

Yeah......unfortunately....... there are. :eek:

I'm worried more about the recent trend of young women adapting somewhat to what is expected from them by porn-influenced males... I can't speak from personal experience here either, but I've heard some really disheartening stories from young people.

[Wryan]

;18029']I'm worried more about the recent trend of young women adapting somewhat to what is expected from them by porn-influenced males... I can't speak from personal experience here either, but I've heard some really disheartening stories from young people.

You mean like a woman agreeing to debase herself in porn-themed ways because it's what the man saw in a vid and thought, "Hey that's hot! Honey, can we try that?" Yeah, I've heard some of that too, although keep mind the woman might also find genuine arousal in things like that, might even be more into it than the man. Just depends on personal taste. If she doesn't allow herself to feel debased, then she can still be in control of herself, from a certain perspective at least. Touchy, though, in my opinion.

[krazed]

http://www.flashasylum.com/db/files/Comics/Matt/thank-god-for-the-internet.png

2girls1cup ftw

[Benny Profane]

Who are your favorite pornstars?

I hardly watch porn, but right now, Jana Cova and Monique Alexander.

[[ETM]]

I hardly watch porn, but right now, Jana Cova and Monique Alexander.

Right now, as in ten years ago?;)

[Benny Profane]

;18085']Right now, as in ten years ago?;)

Heh. I think they're both 27. I guess that is old for a p-star.

Nonetheless, hawt.

[number8]

Mine is Katie Morgan at the moment, simply for her HBO specials. There's something alluring about a porn star with a genius IQ trying to act like a blonde retard while educating us on history.

[Wryan]

Mine is Katie Morgan at the moment, simply for her HBO specials. There's something alluring about a porn star with a genius IQ trying to act like a blonde retard while educating us on history.

From her wikipedia page...

"Katie was raised in California. She was home-schooled[1] by her mother and father, a Christian pastor (denomination unknown). She describes her parents as being very conservative and religious,[2] so she has not told them about her porn career."

Let's hope they are so conservative and religious that they don't have computers or radios.

[DavidSeven]

It's official: Match Cut can turn any topic into a debate.

[Wryan]

It's official: Match Cut can turn any topic into a debate.

I resent that. I challenge you to a debate!

[Raiders]

It's official: Match Cut can turn any topic into a debate.

Indeed. I also declare Wryan the master debater. He took the title from Boner.

[[ETM]]

I also declare Wryan the master debater. He took the title from Boner.

And in a thread named "Porn". Quite an accomplishment.

[krazed]

Indeed. I also declare Wryan the master debater. He took the title from Boner.

How many phallic references can there accurately be in one damned post?

:lol:

[Wryan]

I deserve to whore myself out for rep, just this once.

Get it? Whore? Lord, I'm arch.

[Qrazy]

I'm quite partial to Lily Thai, the woman exudes sexuality.

[MadMan]

How many phallic references can there accurately be in one damned post?

:lol:Never enough. It reminds me of the question "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?" The world will never know.

[Acapelli]

I'm quite partial to Lily Thai, the woman exudes sexuality.
If I know who that is does that mean I watch too much porn.

And yeah, she's pretty hot.

[transmogrifier]

How many phallic references can there accurately be in one damned post?

:lol:


I think Wats has the record. Ask him.

[Boner M]

This thread is disgusting.

[transmogrifier]

This thread is disgusting.

Yeah, three pages and not a single picture.

[transmogrifier]

Yeah, three pages and not a single picture.

Rectified.

http://www.patandfran.com/frontPagePics/animalCrackerLove.jpg

[[ETM]]

We should get back to literature...
http://www.phinnweb.org/livingroom/ILikeToWatch/pic/contortionisttypist.jpg

[Spinal]

Mine is Katie Morgan at the moment, simply for her HBO specials. There's something alluring about a porn star with a genius IQ trying to act like a blonde retard while educating us on history.

I saw the one where she's doing the interview and talking about her life and career and she's naked the whole time.

I may have even seen it more than once.

[Ezee E]

I saw the one where she's doing the interview and talking about her life and career and she's naked the whole time.

I may have even seen it more than once.
Just cut out may and admit you've got it recorded. :)

[Spinal]

Just cut out may and admit you've got it recorded. :)

Yeah, that reminds me. I've really got to invest in some sort of DVR system.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Yeah, that reminds me. I've really got to invest in some sort of DVR system.

This thread wasn't complete without a post from you.

[Rowland]

This thread reminds me that I need to invest in a second Hard Drive.

[Wryan]

This thread reminds me that I need to invest in a second Hard Drive.

This post reminds me of the time I lost my un-backed-up hard drive after a crash.

I cried.

[number8]

I saw the one where she's doing the interview and talking about her life and career and she's naked the whole time.

I may have even seen it more than once.

She's naked in all her shows, the entire time. Watch "The History of Sex Toys" and "Porn 101" the next time it's on. It's actually informative.

[Spinal]

She's naked in all her shows, the entire time.

Gotta have a gimmick. And, as gimmicks go, that one's not bad.

[number8]

Don't forget what tomorrow is:

http://www.globalorgasm.org/

[Rowland]

Gotta have a gimmick. And, as gimmicks go, that one's not bad.It's just a shame her boobs look so fake.

[Sycophant]

Don't forget what tomorrow is:

http://www.globalorgasm.org/I missed it. :cry:

[Wryan]

I missed it. :cry:

I can't remember if I missed it or not. I might have rubbed one out though. Does that count?

[Spinal]

She's naked in all her shows, the entire time. Watch "The History of Sex Toys" and "Porn 101" the next time it's on. It's actually informative.

Watched the latter last night. Very entertaining. :)

[megladon8]

I recently discovered my porn stash from when I was like 13 years old. It was hidden under my bed in a box.

It's hilarious the lengths I went to to hide my porn habit.

I actually created a full code so I could write down porn websites URL's in code, so if my parents were snooping and found them they wouldn't know what they were.

It's funny how I watched more porn as a kid than I do now.

[Thirdmango]

I call it my forte.

I recommend Boink, folks. Google it.

Boink put out a book sorta like penthouse letters of college students expoits and they did drawings of them as well. A friend of mine is actually one of the authors in the book. It's a pretty good read.

[megladon8]

Hong Kong producer plans on making the world's first 3-D erotica. (http://movies.ign.com/articles/948/948028p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-26_042100&RSSid=948028)

I have to admit...I'm surprised this will be a first.

I would have thought it was one of those things that came (no pun intended) right away.

INVENTOR: Ha! Finally! I've perfected my design! Now all in the world can experience the wonder of 3-D video!

ASSISTANT: We should make 3-D pornos.

INVENTOR: Yes...indeed...

[Sycophant]

I think 3-D porn is something that's been much talked about. I think it's probably been to cost-prohibitive up to this point.

I've been meaning to see a Sex and Zen film for a long time now. If this is indeed going to be a classic-style category-III filthfest, I'm really, really interested.

[bac0n]

not a single post in this thread in the entire year of 2008.

for shame.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I recently discovered my porn stash from when I was like 13 years old. It was hidden under my bed in a box.

It's hilarious the lengths I went to to hide my porn habit.

I actually created a full code so I could write down porn websites URL's in code, so if my parents were snooping and found them they wouldn't know what they were.

It's funny how I watched more porn as a kid than I do now.

I was terrible at that shit. My dad told me on two non-consecutive occasions to delete my internet history, so as not to upset my mother.

[number8]

Boy, that was an ordeal.