2010 New Release Database

[EyesWideOpen]

Blue Valentine - yay

[Henry Gale]

Due Date - nay

Funny enough for the first half, but then it seems to lose track of what it's there to do, and ends up being only slightly amusing until it feels like wasted potential.

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Also, yay for The Fighter, and for whatever reason it seems like my nay for The Kids Are All Right got missed. I really want that to count.

[Lazlo]

The American - Yay

[soitgoes...]

Due Date - yay

[Rowland]

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - nay

I can kinda see Fincher maybe making something of this. We'll see.

[Lazlo]

Dogtooth - Yay

[StanleyK]

Winter's Bone - nay

[Pop Trash]

Machete - yay

It is a bit long, has some have stated, but dang if I don't like Rodriguez's use of Latino culture in a non-mawkish way.

[soitgoes...]

Tamara Drewe - yay

[Rowland]

Despicable Me - mild yay

[Weeping_Guitar]

Monsters - yay
Night Catches Us - yay
The Square - yay

[Ezee E]

Some crazy results developing in the Match Cut Awards by the way.

[Rowland]

Last Train Home - Yay

And what do you know, another excellent documentary.

[elixir]

Last Train Home - Yay

And what do you know, another excellent documentary.

YES. Loved it. Yay for me too.

[Bosco B Thug]

The Ghost Writer - yay
- A bit plain, but atmospheric and resonant in its broad politics

The King's Speech - nay

Enter the Void - nay
- Good ideas, fizzled execution

[baby doll]

The King's Speech - nayI thought you weren't interested (or am I thinking of some one else?). What made you change your mind? A cute date and no better options?

[Bosco B Thug]

I thought you weren't interested (or am I thinking of some one else?). What made you change your mind? A cute date and no better options?
You're thinking of someone else, I think... As for me, well, a cute girl gave me her screener copy, does that acquit me? :P Hey, I'm just being a good movie geek and watching 2010 movies out of critical obligation.

[Bosco B Thug]

In other words, baby doll, please sell out, skip that next film you're going to watch that I've never heard of, and instead spend those valuable two hours watching the highly accessible The King's Speech. Then you'll be one step further prepared to watch the Oscars in a month. ;)

[Dukefrukem]

The Fighter Yay
The Social Network Yay
Black Swan Yay
True Grit Yay

[Lazlo]

Biutiful - Yay

[Lucky]

I Am Love - yay

[Ezee E]

Wow. Lazlo is the first to see Biutiful. I have to be wrong here.

[Lazlo]

Wow. Lazlo is the first to see Biutiful. I have to be wrong here.

Jeez, weird. Never would have thought it would have to get all the way to Charlotte for someone to see it.

[EyesWideOpen]

Frozen - yay

[Spinal]

Get Him to the Greek -- oh, yay, i suppose

[DavidSeven]

The Kids Are All Right - Nay

Man, Mark Ruffalo's character really gets a raw deal.

[Pop Trash]

Frozen - yay

Damn, that would be a great flick to watch today.

Speaking of which, Criterion is selling The Ice Storm for 50% off today only. Oh those jokers.

[B-side]

The Illusionist - yay

[Dukefrukem]

The Fighter Yay
The Social Network Yay
Black Swan Yay
True Grit Yay

been busy

True Grit yay
Black Swan yay
127 hours yay
King's Speech yay
The Fighter yay
Social Network yay

Winter Bone nay

[Lucky]

Exit Through the Gift Shop - yay

[Lazlo]

Let Me In - Yay

[Stay Puft]

Never Let Me Go - nay

[Rowland]

My Dog Tulip - yay

[Adam]

Never Let Me Go (Romanek '10) *

In retrospect I'm surprised I didn't just roll my eyes at this movie and move on, but I can't deny how pathetically and profoundly sad I felt while watching it. Certain scenes like 'lil Carey Mulligan clutching her pillow and listening to the cassette or the older kids asking about deferrals have stuck with me

[Lazlo]

GasLand - Yay

[Ivan Drago]

127 Hours - Yay

[B-side]

Marwencol - yay

[Derek]

I Love You Phillip Morris - mild nay

[Stay Puft]

Shinjuku Incident - nay

Jackie Chan's serious face doesn't fare too badly here, though it's a flimsy film on the whole. For every moment that sorta works, another flops, and flops bad. Daniel Wu spends the entire movie in... well, another movie. Was that supposed to be acting?



In retrospect I'm surprised I didn't just roll my eyes at this movie and move on, but I can't deny how pathetically and profoundly sad I felt while watching it. Certain scenes like 'lil Carey Mulligan clutching her pillow and listening to the cassette or the older kids asking about deferrals have stuck with me

The pillow bit worked for me (and the girl they found to play mini Carey Mulligan is uncanny), as well as one other bit. I liked the shot of Knightley in the car as they're driving to see Garfield again, and there's this mix of excitement and uncertainty on her face, and she sorta bites a fingernail or something and looks around. That was a simple but surprisingly resonant moment for me, maybe the single best thing Knightley has ever done as an actress.

Otherwise, nothing.

The plot elements felt too truncated, and the jumps in time break things up too much, even though there's only... two of them? It was just plot, everything telegraphed, I never felt as though I was getting a sense of their interior lives. And what other purpose is there for the alternate history angle if not that? The cloning/ethics themes seemed half baked, and Mulligan's voice over reduces the emotional journey to a groan inducing platitude.

Very disappointed with this one. Significant eye rolling.

[soitgoes...]

I Am Love - Hells yes.

[NickGlass]

Country Strong: Nay

Not even acceptable as camp, since it's a schematic Hollywood film that tries to go for intimate emotional grit but just achieves inauthentic emotional glut.

[dreamdead]

Blue Valentine - yay!

[Dukefrukem]

THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT nay

[Kurosawa Fan]

Tangled - Yay

[soitgoes...]

The Illusionist - yay

[Ezee E]

Final weekend to get votes in for the Matchies!

[endingcredits]

Blue Valentine - YAY

[Rowland]

Samson and Delilah - mild nay

The first act is lovely, but it grows increasingly mannered and confrontational in some really phony, heavy-handed ways from there.

[Raiders]

Resident Evil: Afterlife - yay

[Lazlo]

Salt - Nay

[Henry Gale]

Blue Valentine - big yay
The A-Team - small yay

[StanleyK]

Let Me In - yay.

[EyesWideOpen]

Let Me In - yay

The film was good but is the definition of unnecessary.

[dmk]

The Fighter - NAY
Love and Other Drugs - nay, but his best film.
Unstoppable - very mild yay almost nay
Tamara Drewe' - naaaay
True Grit - yar

[Stay Puft]

The Secret in Their Eyes - nay

That has to be the stupidest 2010 US release I've seen so far. A howler, though; stupidly entertaining in its own way.

[Dukefrukem]

TRON: LEGACY yay

[Lazlo]

The Wolfman - Nay

[Dukefrukem]

HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON huge yay

[Ezee E]

Machete is fun for a while, but it was gold as a trailer. As a full-length movie, it gets a little tiring after a while. Mehchete.

[Dukefrukem]

JONAH HEX nay & SPLICE nay

[Bosco B Thug]

SPLICE nay Aww. Duke! Genre-loving Duke! :(

;)

[Raiders]

Let Me In - so very yay

[Dukefrukem]

Aww. Duke! Genre-loving Duke! :(

;)

Had a lot of time to think about that one. I can't get past the interspecies sex scene.

[Ezee E]

Had a lot of time to think about that one. I can't get past the interspecies sex scene.
Interspecies/Incest sex scene.

[Bosco B Thug]

Interspecies/Incest sex scene.
Absolutely pivotal interspecies/incest sex scene!

[baby doll]

127 Hours or The Wind Bloweth Where it Listeth TO THE MOTHERFUCKIN' XTREME, DAWG - yay

[StanleyK]

Black Swan - yay-ish

I didn't find it very interesting story or theme-wise, and didn't care at all for Portman's performance, but it's definitely strong filmmaking, especially in the camerawork.

[baby doll]

Black Swan - yay-ish

I didn't find it very interesting story or theme-wise, and didn't care at all for Portman's performance, but it's definitely strong filmmaking, especially in the camerawork.I fail to see what was so impressive about the camerawork. I mean, it's not exactly I Am Cuba.

[endingcredits]

Wild Grass - yay

[Dukefrukem]

Black Swan - yay-ish

I didn't find it very interesting story or theme-wise, and didn't care at all for Portman's performance, but it's definitely strong filmmaking, especially in the camerawork.

I mentioned this in the BS thread, I love the camera work in all of Aronofsky's movies.

[EyesWideOpen]

True Grit - yay

[Rowland]

Everyone Else - Yay

[Boner M]

Inside Job - yay
Faster - nay

[endingcredits]

Alamar - yay

[Mysterious Dude]

The Illusionist - yay
The Killer Inside Me - yay
Metropia - yay
The Secret of Kells - yay

Restrepo - nay

[Lazlo]

Buried - Yay

[Lucky]

True Grit - Yay
Valentine's Day - Nay

[EyesWideOpen]

The Secret of Kells - yay

[Raiders]

Wild Grass - nay

Definitely a film that you need to be on its wavelength from the get go and it just never happened. I was annoyed with it to be honest. I will say Resnais, to continue my praise of P.W.S. Anderson, navigates space wonderfully and creates a very fluid film. I think eventually I will watch this again as the second half seemed to really come together, but I had already lost interest from the painfully baffling first half.

[DavidSeven]

Exit Through the Gift Shop - Definitely Yay.

[Spinal]

Let Me In - not bad, but ultimately, nay

[baby doll]

Wild Grass - nay

Definitely a film that you need to be on its wavelength from the get go and it just never happened. I was annoyed with it to be honest. I will say Resnais, to continue my praise of P.W.S. Anderson, navigates space wonderfully and creates a very fluid film. I think eventually I will watch this again as the second half seemed to really come together, but I had already lost interest from the painfully baffling first half.More and more, I think there are two kinds of people in this world: Those who love Les Herbes folles (and Eccentricities of a Blonde Haired Girl), and those who don't understand cinema--i.e., people who like Black Swan.

For starters, what's baffling about the first half of the movie? It's the second half that's totally nutso.

[elixir]

So because I didn't like Wild Grass and thought Eccentricities was only so-so, I don't "get" cinema? I know--well, I think--you aren being facetious, but come on now, you've got to realize an off-kilter/quirky/different/etc movie like Wild Grass won't appeal to everyone. I don't think it's BAD, but it didn't work for ME at all. Same with Eccentricities. Though I admit I sometimes have the same reaction (but choose not to post it then!).

I'm sure tons of people didn't like one of my favorite movies of last year, Our Beloved Month of August, and even I think it's beginning is quite baffling (though I don't consider baffling inherently a bad thing). Or Alamar, which someone might consider minimalist crap.

/is extremely obvious.

ETA: Black Swan > Wild Grass and Eccentricities!!!!!! (I do actually like it more though. I'm such a philistine.)

[baby doll]

So because I didn't like Wild Grass and thought Eccentricities was only so-so, I don't "get" cinema? I know--well, I think--you aren being facetious, but come on now, you've got to realize an off-kilter/quirky/different/etc movie like Wild Grass won't appeal to everyone. I don't think it's BAD, but it didn't work for ME at all. Same with Eccentricities. Though I admit I sometimes have the same reaction (but choose not to post it then!).

I'm sure tons of people didn't like one of my favorite movies of last year, Our Beloved Month of August, and even I think it's beginning is quite baffling (though I don't consider baffling inherently a bad thing). Or Alamar, which someone might consider minimalist crap.

/is extremely obvious.

ETA: Black Swan > Wild Grass and Eccentricities!!!!!! (I do actually like it more though. I'm such a philistine.)Well, it was a joke, but I do find it hard to figure how any person reasonably serious and knowledgeable about film wouldn't love the films by De Oliveira and Resnais, given how playful they both are on a formal level. Similarly, I find it hard to figure that anyone reasonably knowledgeable about anything wouldn't find Black Swan utterly ridiculous.

[elixir]

With Wild Grass, I just found its playfulness too calculated. And the first half was just frustrating. It almost went in directions that made me think I would end up liking it, but ultimately it did nothing for me. I don't know what to say.

Eccentricities was fine enough, but just really forgettable for me. It was nice...that's about it. Sorry.

Black Swan is so absolutely ridiculous, and here's where I'm sure I lose the dissenters, but it commits to its vision so admirably and really has striking shots that I couldn't help but LIKE it, while recognizing that it's completely flawed. I don't know, I just liked it for Aronofsky's daring and I think he directed very well what was quite a poor script, to be honest.

If this makes me some kind of idiot, then so be it.

[baby doll]

With Wild Grass, I just found its playfulness too calculated. And the first half was just frustrating. It almost went in directions that made me think I would end up liking it, but ultimately it did nothing for me. I don't know what to say.

Eccentricities was fine enough, but just really forgettable for me. It was nice...that's about it. Sorry.

Black Swan is so absolutely ridiculous, and here's where I'm sure I lose the dissenters, but it commits to its vision so admirably and really has striking shots that I couldn't help but LIKE it, while recognizing that it's completely flawed. I don't know, I just liked it for Aronofsky's daring and I think he directed very well what was quite a poor script, to be honest.

If this makes me some kind of idiot, then so be it.It's hard for me to comment on what you said about Les Herbes folles, since first of all, I'm absolutely sure that the playfulness was calculated (I don't think it was an accident that the film ends with a total non sequitur). And I can't say anything about the directions the story might have gone in (maybe he could have killed those girls in the parking lot, but he didn't; the point is simply to suggest that he could kill, and may have in the past); I can only say that I was intrigued by the direction it did go in, which was excitingly unlike anything I was expecting. In fact, even as some one who's followed Resnais' late films somewhat closely and thought I knew what to expect from this, I was rather pleased to get something entirely different from Pas sur la bouche and Coeurs, while still recognizably Resnais-esque.

[B-side]

If this makes me some kind of idiot, then so be it.

Don't be so hard on yourself.:P

baby doll just likes to give people a hard time. He's harmless.

[elixir]

Well, yeah, of course it's calculated because it was written, but I just couldn't buy into the playful vision, and to be honest, I don't know quite why. It just never clicked with me, and I suppose I'm just not on the right wavelength. (I honestly think my favorite film from last year, Our Beloved Month of August, is probably quite similar in that respect.)

I will admit I'm really not familiar with Resnais at all, but I don't think that renders my opinion null or anything.

[elixir]

Don't be so hard on yourself.:P

baby doll just likes to give people a hard time. He's harmless.

I'm not being serious. I'm just saying, if you want to call me an idiot after what I stated, fine...it doesn't matter to me.

[soitgoes...]

Act da Fool - nay

[Boner M]

Lourdes - yay

Intriguing, disquieting, curiously motivated. Have a feeling this'll look even better upon rewatch/restrospect.

[Rowland]

Those who love Les Herbes folles (and Eccentricities of a Blonde Haired Girl), and those who don't understand cinema--i.e., people who like Black Swan.Stop it, you're going to make those of us who like Les Herbes folles look snooty. I loved Black Swan and Wild Grass, and didn't care much for Eccentricities of a Blonde Haired Girl. But then, I don't "understand" cinema. My understanding of the cinema as a form of artistic expression is delightfully, exhilaratingly mercurial, much like Wild Grass.

[EyesWideOpen]

Everyone Else - nay

[Rowland]

Lourdes - yay

Intriguing, disquieting, curiously motivated. Have a feeling this'll look even better upon rewatch/restrospect.If I have anything particularly negative to say about this one, it's that as an atheist, its philosophical bent almost caters too easily to my understanding of the world. But then I remember how devastatingly humane it is, and I have to forgive that minor drawback.

[Rowland]

Vincere - mild yay

[Winston*]

True Grit - Yay

[EyesWideOpen]

The King's Speech - yay

[Rowland]

Blue Valentine - mild yay

[Bosco B Thug]

Why does no one really like Vincere (except baby doll)? It's quite good, and while occasional victim to high-gloss and a too-traditional visual romanticism, it's nevertheless half-consisting of expert performative touches and nuanced historical analysis.

A similar evaluation goes to A Prophet.

Vincere - yay
A Prophet - yay
Wild Grass - yay
Trash Humpers - nay

[EyesWideOpen]

127 Hours - nay

[Henry Gale]

127 Hours - huge yay

Was not expecting to love it at all, but out of nowhere it finds a way into my top 5 of the year.

[NickGlass]

Alamar: a serene yay.

[Watashi]

Buried - YAY

Man, this movie makes me hate the government so much.

[Rowland]

Buried - YAY

Man, this movie makes me hate the government so much.You were too late to nominate Ryan Reynolds, you jerk. :P

[Watashi]

You were too late to nominate Ryan Reynolds, you jerk. :P
I know. He out Francoed Franco.

[DavidSeven]

Winter's Bone - Borderline Nay.

It's tough. I don't really think it's a bad film, but I could never imagine recommending it to someone or being in any way enthusiastic about it. I guess that's what it comes down to here.

[Rowland]

Why does no one really like Vincere (except baby doll)? It's quite good, and while occasional victim to high-gloss and a too-traditional visual romanticism, it's nevertheless half-consisting of expert performative touches and nuanced historical analysis. I meant to respond to this sooner. Anyway, I was surprised I wound up a yay at all, since I spent more than half of the film firmly in the nay camp. It struck me as shrill, heavy-handed, and borderline incoherent in its political principles, narrative design, dramatic impetus, thematic purpose, and formal everything, enough so that I was actively irritated for quite awhile. Once the film settled down in its second half and I was able to take consideration of what I'd just been subjected to and thus found myself coming to grips with Bellocchio's allegorical ambitions and conceptual gambits, not to mention being frequently dazzled by his technical virtuosity and borderline-gonzo mania, I was more impressed with his achievement, enough so that I couldn't help but admire the film more as a whole, even as I couldn't ignore how I actively disliked the majority of it, and was never sure if much of it worked. Another viewing may clarify this.

[Lazlo]

Catfish - Yay

[Bosco B Thug]

I meant to respond to this sooner. Anyway, I was surprised I wound up a yay at all, since I spent more than half of the film firmly in the nay camp. It struck me as shrill, heavy-handed, and borderline incoherent in its political principles, narrative design, dramatic impetus, thematic purpose, and formal everything, enough so that I was actively irritated for quite awhile. Once the film settled down in its second half and I was able to take consideration of what I'd just been subjected to and thus found myself coming to grips with Bellocchio's allegorical ambitions and conceptual gambits, not to mention being frequently dazzled by his technical virtuosity and borderline-gonzo mania, I was more impressed with his achievement, enough so that I couldn't help but admire the film more as a whole, even as I couldn't ignore how I actively disliked the majority of it, and was never sure if much of it worked. Another viewing may clarify this. Interesting... and I imagine your reaction and real-time dislike can't be too far off from the other nays/lukewarm yays here (the amount of which still surprises me...) and their own experience with it. It even got a "painful to watch" from TripZone, which I'd be interested in hearing some of his reasons why as well.

It is a film about depiction and dramatization more than it is one about communicating any novel, personally held principles (then again, it's Mussolini, what better superficial evaluation than having him disappear into ridiculous newsreels), which does make it ultimately conventional and po-faced Award-season traditional, but those conceptual gambits, which I found very consistent, kept me dazzled and/or intellectually stimulated to a satisfactory degree.

[Lazlo]

Solitary Man - Yay

[Boner M]

Biutiful - NAY

Gah, such a fucking slog. Babel's a Preston Sturges film by comparison.

[endingcredits]

Barney's Version - nay

[kopello]

Enter the Void - yay
Wild Grass - yay

[Ivan Drago]

Dogtooth - FUCKIN' YAY

[baby doll]

Dogtooth - yay

How did I know before he put the record on that it was going to be Frank Sinatra? Of course, I did just rewatch Lost in America the other day, so I had "New York, New York" in my head.

[Winston*]

127 Hours - yay

[Rowland]

Hadewijch - Yay

Hmm, fascinating. The type of film I really wish I could sit down and chat about with someone.

[Winston*]

Scott Pilgrim - yay

[Lucky]

Never Let Me Go - Yay
Paranormal Activity 2 - Nay
Machete - Mild Yay

[Pop Trash]

The Kids Are All Right - yay

[Winston*]

leaves of grass - yay

im the only one thats seen this?

[soitgoes...]

leaves of grass - yay

im the only one thats seen this?
I saw it a number of months back. It's on the main list, but everything gets all jumbly in the L's.

I didn't really care for it.

[soitgoes...]

Hadewijch - Yay

Hmm, fascinating. The type of film I really wish I could sit down and chat about with someone.

Nice. Trip and I had a good talk in the Hadewijch thread after I watched it. The film has grown on me more and more.

[DavidSeven]

Shutter Island - Mildest of Yays

I appreciate the lush visuals and the one-off performances, but DiCaprio barely registers as a compelling character, and the film doesn't have any others. Scorsese mostly succeeds in crafting a chillingly gothic aesthetic, but it's occasionally undermined by some hokey direction that feels painfully self-conscious.

[Rowland]

Four Lions - mild yay

Much of this doesn't work, but it's pretty funny when it does. The dramatic impetus is barely coherent but works because of the performance by the lead protagonist, and I admired how far it takes its premise. It looks too much like television for my taste, but it's not too bad by those standards.

[Pop Trash]

Cyrus - mild nay

I'd probably 'yay' this if the Duplass' Bros. camera work wasn't so shoddy. What style are they going for? Drunken Cassavetes?

[Boner M]

Hereafter - NAY

After this and Biutiful I demand a moratorium on portentous, humorless 'meditations on mortality'.

[eternity]

Cyrus - mild nay

I'd probably 'yay' this if the Duplass' Bros. camera work wasn't so shoddy. What style are they going for? Drunken Cassavetes?
Actually, pretty much. The style works a lot better in their films that don't contain John C. Reilly, Jonah Hill, and Marisa Tomei.

[DavidSeven]

The King's Speech - Yay

It's not really as bad as all that. I can think of blander Oscar contenders (The Queen or The Pianist, anyone?). This was engaging enough for what it was, and I appreciate the craftsmanship, even if Hooper gets way too cute sometimes.

[Raiders]

(The Queen or The Pianist, anyone?)

Jesus, David. It's like you exist to be the nega-me.

[MadMan]

The more I think about Cyrus, the more I consider upping my overall rating. The camerawork didn't bother as much as it does others, but I agree that in the end it was a tad pointless to shoot it that way.

I Spit On Your Grave (2010)-Mild Yay. Apparently 2010 was the year of the horror remake.

[Pop Trash]

The King's Speech - Yay

It's not really as bad as all that. I can think of blander Oscar contenders (The Queen or The Pianist, anyone?)

I never saw the The Queen, but 'holy fuck good sir' re: The Pianist.

[Pop Trash]

The more I think about Cyrus, the more I consider upping my overall rating. The camerawork didn't bother as much as it does others, but I agree that in the end it was a tad pointless to shoot it that way.


Yeah...I didn't dislike it really. Jonah Hill was surprisingly good and I liked The Rushmore-esque way the two supposed enemies wind up as friends. But in the end, the formal sloppiness pushed it into the 'nay' side for me.

[Spinal]

I Spit On Your Grave (2010)-Mild Yay.

And yet it makes your worst list. That's mad, man! :)

[DavidSeven]

Wait. It's in vogue to back The Pianist now? I thought it was fine and would rate it favorable, but man, this is not a film I would return to for the memorability or inventiveness of its filmmaking. Thought the whole thing was rather forgettable, though engaging. Some Hooper's aesthetic choices in The King's Speech are pretty silly, but it's still several notches above rote Hollywood filmmaking.

Edit: Been years since I've seen the Polanski pic, so I could be misremembering a lot of it. But I definitely know it didn't leave much of an impression on me.

[Spinal]

Wait. It's in vogue to back The Pianist now?

Despicable film. I hate it.

[Lucky]

Let Me In - Yay
Middle Men - Nay

[Winston*]

the fighter - yay

[Henry Gale]

Takers - nay

Not quite sure why I watched it, but it's kind of a shame that it tries to amount to more than stupid fun by the end of it, because if it kept to being the extremely glossy, overly-saturated, slickly dressed, mildly exciting action-er it was for the first half or so (with the "story" and plotting seemingly only there to allow the actors to look cool doing stuff), I might have yay'd it. But the thing just tries to get so damn serious by the end. Not everything has to be Scarface.

[baby doll]

Blue Valentine - yay

[Ivan Drago]

Blue Valentine - YAY

[baby doll]

Strange than no one's nayed Blue Valentine so far. I guess there's nothing to dislike about it, but I wouldn't say it's particularly great either. Notwithstanding the final shot, with Gosling walking away in the middle-ground and people setting off fireworks in the background out of focus, Cianfrance isn't doing anything very interesting stylistically, and the subject matter rules out politics almost completely, except for sexual politics. (And to the extent that it can be read as a political statement, it's fairly conservative in that it never entertains any possible alternative to heterosexual monogamy.)

[endingcredits]

The Eccentricities of a Blond-haired Girl - yay
Everyone Else - yay

[Rowland]

Strange than no one's nayed Blue Valentine so far. I guess there's nothing to dislike about it, but I wouldn't say it's particularly great either. Notwithstanding the final shot, with Gosling walking away in the middle-ground and people setting off fireworks in the background out of focus, Cianfrance isn't doing anything very interesting stylistically, and the subject matter rules out politics almost completely, except for sexual politics. (And to the extent that it can be read as a political statement, it's fairly conservative in that it never entertains any possible alternative to heterosexual monogamy.)I gave it a mild yay, so that makes me one of the closest to a nay around here. Dean struck me as a more fully realized character and thus more sympathetic, which proves increasingly problematic as the film progresses and certain key bits of information are revealed, while the fragmented structure sometimes felt more like a contrivance than an expressive poetic device, and I wasn't too fond of the Grizzly Bear score or the filmmaker's overreliance on ECU handheld cinematography, which sometimes gives it the feel of an actor's workshop wallowing in indie misery, albeit a fairly affecting one.

[Boner M]

Strange than no one's nayed Blue Valentine so far. I guess there's nothing to dislike about it, but I wouldn't say it's particularly great either. Notwithstanding the final shot, with Gosling walking away in the middle-ground and people setting off fireworks in the background out of focus, Cianfrance isn't doing anything very interesting stylistically, and the subject matter rules out politics almost completely, except for sexual politics. (And to the extent that it can be read as a political statement, it's fairly conservative in that it never entertains any possible alternative to heterosexual monogamy.)
YOU GAVE HEREAFTER FOUR STARS.

[baby doll]

YOU GAVE HEREAFTER FOUR STARS.And I stand by it. What can I say? It raped my tear ducts.

[Raiders]

Why the hell should there be politics in Blue Valentine?

[baby doll]

Why the hell should there be politics in Blue Valentine?I dunno, I guess I just felt like the movie was playing it safe in a certain respect with regards to its choice of subject matter.

[Boner M]

I dunno, I guess I just felt like the movie was playing it safe in a certain respect with regards to its choice of subject matter.
Making a film that addresses politics is only morally upright insofar as the resulting film addresses the real world. Similarly, romantic relationships are a very real-world subject matter. In conclusion, get yer principles straight.

[Weeping_Guitar]

Client 9 - yay
Waiting For Superman - yay
You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger - nay

[baby doll]

Making a film that addresses politics is only morally upright insofar as the resulting film addresses the real world. Similarly, romantic relationships are a very real-world subject matter. In conclusion, get yer principles straight.Yeah, maybe. I mean, for what it's trying to do, the film does a fairly good job of it. That said, the story is so specifically about these two people, and the very specific problem that poisons their relationship before it even starts, that it doesn't have very much resonance.

[Raiders]

Yeah, maybe. I mean, for what it's trying to do, the film does a fairly good job of it. That said, the story is so specifically about these two people, and the very specific problem that poisons their relationship before it even starts, that it doesn't have very much resonance.

It is specifically about those two people (though this means nothing), but it is not about a very specific problem inasmuch as the problem is symptomatic of many real-world relationship issues.

I am surprised considering you are a big fan of Godard, that you seem so insistent that this film (and film in general) stake itself clearly as a reflection of our own reality rather than creating its own reality. Not that I think this applies here as the film does establish itself clearly in our own reality, but it shouldn't be a pre-requisite.

[baby doll]

It is specifically about those two people (though this means nothing), but it is not about a very specific problem inasmuch as the problem is symptomatic of many real-world relationship issues.

I am surprised considering you are a big fan of Godard, that you seem so insistent that this film (and film in general) stake itself clearly as a reflection of our own reality rather than creating its own reality. Not that I think this applies here as the film does establish itself clearly in our own reality, but it shouldn't be a pre-requisite.Let me put it this way: I'm generally somebody who goes to the movies less to escape reality than to return to it, so for me, a breakup film like Le Mépris (my favorite Godard movie)--which is all about money, artistic compromise, and implicitly, prostitution (Godard's favorite metaphor for capitalism)--has a lot more resonance than Blue Valentine. Also, as I said earlier, stylistically Blue Valentine is nowhere near the level of that film.

[Raiders]

Also, as I said earlier, stylistically Blue Valentine is nowhere near the level of that film.

I would disagree (the freedom of the camera in the flashbacks coupled with the claustrophobic images in the present are just one of the ways Cianfrance delicately visualizes the sense of loss in individuality and dreams that is the basis for the film)... but you liked it overall, so I don't want to make more of this than necessary.

[Mysterious Dude]

I think Blue Valentine is a story that a lot of people can probably relate to (unlike Le Mépris). When I described the film to my (divorced) parents, they both said, "I know what that's like." Any crap about 'artistic compromise' would be nothing but a distraction.

[baby doll]

I think Blue Valentine is a story that a lot of people can probably relate to (unlike Le Mépris). When I described the film to my (divorced) parents, they both said, "I know what that's like." Any crap about 'artistic compromise' would be nothing but a distraction.:|

[baby doll]

I would disagree (the freedom of the camera in the flashbacks coupled with the claustrophobic images in the present are just one of the ways Cianfrance delicately visualizes the sense of loss in individuality and dreams that is the basis for the film)... but you liked it overall, so I don't want to make more of this than necessary.I wasn't particularly taken by the style myself, which seemed to equate handheld camerawork and low-lighting conditions with intimacy and realism (whatever thematic justification you want to invent for the style, it seemed to me fairly conventional and uncreative, so the fact that I did like the film overall is a tribute to the storytelling and acting more than anything else). But yeah, I don't want to make more of this than necessary, since I did like it, but I kinda feel the same way about this movie that I did about The Squid and the Whale: Yeah, yeah, my parents got a divorce too, but I don't think anyone would be interested in a feature-length movie about it.

[Derek]

YOU GAVE HEREAFTER FOUR STARS.

But it's okay that that film doesn't hold to babydoll's silly principles and could more easily be dismissed as Oscar bait that anything Eastwood has made in years because he likes it. You haven't figured out how that works?

[Derek]

I wasn't too fond of the Grizzly Bear score

Bah!

[baby doll]

But it's okay that that film doesn't hold to babydoll's silly principles and could more easily be dismissed as Oscar bait that anything Eastwood has made in years because he likes it. You haven't figured out how that works?How it works is I have a reaction to a film, and then I try to figure out as best as possible, why I had that reaction. Would you prefer that I be more dogmatic?

[baby doll]

Incidentally, regarding Hereafter being Oscar-bait: Well, yeah, of course it is. But it's a more interesting and successful Oscar-bait movie than the likes of Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby, Flags of Our Fathers, Letters From Iwo Jima, Changeling, or Invictus. (Gran Torino I think qualifies more as an audience movie, and it makes me think that Eastwood should do more of them.)

[Derek]

Incidentally, regarding Hereafter being Oscar-bait: Well, yeah, of course it is.

I suppose my point is this: when you don't like a film, you often glibly dismiss it for not focusing on politics, for being too character-driven or for being Oscar bait and leave it at that as if that deficiency automatically makes the film not work. Then when you like a film that fits in that category (ie, Hereafter, which is apolitical Oscar bait), you say "Well yeah, it is, but it's better than other similar films." If you're gonna have ridiculous principles, at least stick to them, man!

[baby doll]

I suppose my point is this: when you don't like a film, you often glibly dismiss it for not focusing on politics, for being too character-driven or for being Oscar bait and leave it at that as if that deficiency automatically makes the film not work. Then when you like a film that fits in that category (ie, Hereafter, which is apolitical Oscar bait), you say "Well yeah, it is, but it's better than other similar films." If you're gonna have ridiculous principles, at least stick to them, man!I disliked True Grit, not because it was Oscar-bait, but because it felt they took the guts out of the original and replaced it with portentous sawdust. (I think it's a fairly clear-cut example of the negative influence that Eastwood's Unforgiven has had on the western.) Hereafter, on the other hand, isn't a western, so the portentousness of it didn't bother me, and compared to Eastwood's other movies, he displays a relatively, relatively light touch. Furthermore, I don't think you can read a movie about the afterlife that takes in the London bombings as being entirely apolitical.

[MadMan]

Yeah...I didn't dislike it really. Jonah Hill was surprisingly good and I liked The Rushmore-esque way the two supposed enemies wind up as friends. But in the end, the formal sloppiness pushed it into the 'nay' side for me.I didn't think it was sloppy, although I can understand why you think this. Originally I had some problems with the ending, but now I see it was really the only way the film could have concluded.


And yet it makes your worst list. That's mad, man! :)Heh. Well I've avoided most of the truly awful movies from 2010, or at least the ones that looked like crap. So the worst list is gonna be rather short. 65 still equals fresh.

The term "Oscar-bait" is getting old, overused, and sounds kind of silly.

[Boner M]

Rabbit Hole - mild yay
MacGruber - yay

Former is too innocuous for a film about grief; dunno if I'll remember it tomorrow but it has some good scenes. Latter is inconsistent but the highs are very high indeed, esp. the smash cuts and escalation butt/dick/throat-ripping jokes.

[NickGlass]

Rabbit Hole - mild yay
MacGruber - yay

Former is too innocuous for a film about grief; dunno if I'll remember it tomorrow but it has some good scenes.

Totally. I saw it at its premiere in Toronto and found it polished to the degree of being rendered completely ineffectual (really, JCM?). I was extremely surprised when it was released and widely praised. There is zero resonance.

[Rowland]

I don't think E is planning on updating this thread anymore, or so I recall him stating would be the case after the 2010 nomination process was complete. Not that I blame him, but anyway...

Babies - nay
The Milk of Sorrow - yay

First on the latter?

[endingcredits]

Another Year - yay

[Watashi]

The Illusionist - yay yay yay

Jesus, that was depressing.

[baby doll]

The Illusionist - yay yay yay

Jesus, that was depressing.And you consider that a positive?

[EyesWideOpen]

Paranormal Activity 2 - mild yay
Waking Sleeping Beauty - yay

[EyesWideOpen]

If E doesn't want to keep this thread going I'm willing to keep it updated if people are interested.

[Spinal]

I was planning on un-stickying it after the MC Awards, but if you want to continue to update it, go ahead.

[baby doll]

The King's Speech - n-n-n-n-nay

[elixir]

The King's Speech - n-n-n-n-nay

:lol:

[Pop Trash]

Wating for 'Superman' -yay with reservations

Anyone see this yet? It's well made, but being that my mom is a teacher, I think she would find serious fault that they criticize teachers for not doing their job, but never do the same for parents. All of the parents they interview are total angels and that is emphatically not how it is sometimes.

[EyesWideOpen]

Wating for 'Superman' -yay with reservations

Anyone see this yet? It's well made, but being that my mom is a teacher, I think she would find serious fault that they criticize teachers for not doing their job, but never do the same for parents. All of the parents they interview are total angels and that is emphatically not how it is sometimes.

My wife is a teacher so we know all about the nonsense that doc is preaching. I doubt we could make it all the way through the movie without her getting too angry to continue.

[Pop Trash]

My wife is a teacher so we know all about the nonsense that doc is preaching. I doubt we could make it all the way through the movie without her getting too angry to continue.

Yeah the movie implies that all parents care about their children's education as much as Guggenheim and the parents interviewed. The problem with that is some kids only have teachers for support, and don't have angelic parents who are willing to fight the good fight to get them in a competitive charter (or private) school. That said, I do think it should be easier to fire crappy teachers.

[Derek]

Wating for 'Superman' -yay with reservations

Anyone see this yet? It's well made, but being that my mom is a teacher, I think she would find serious fault that they criticize teachers for not doing their job, but never do the same for parents. All of the parents they interview are total angels and that is emphatically not how it is sometimes.

Yeah, I nay'd it. It makes some good points, but it bothered me too that it was overly critical of teachers and ready to nominate Rhee for sainthood.

[DavidSeven]

I Am Love - Yay

It takes a while to adjust to the rhythm of the film, but once you're there, it's a pretty enrapturing experience. The melodrama gets ratcheted a bit high near the end, but overall, this was one of the best directed pieces of 2010. Gorgeous stuff.

[Ezee E]

Sorry. I'll continue to update until the awards, or basically March.

[Stay Puft]

Dogtooth - yay

[Weeping_Guitar]

Carlos - Yay

[EyesWideOpen]

Carlos - yay

[lovejuice]

Exit through the Gift Shop - Big Yay

Surprised it doesn't have a thread of its own considered many people seem to like it. What a pleasant documentary with a really interesting twist!

[eternity]

Freakonomics - nay

[Stay Puft]

Red - yay

[Lucky]

Buried - Nay
Cyrus - Nay (Although Marisa Tomei was a yay)
The Last Exorcism - Nay

[baby doll]

Cyrus - Nay (Although Marisa Tomei was a yay)When has Marisa Tomei ever not been a yay?

[Dukefrukem]

THE GHOST WRITER meh to yay

[endingcredits]

Greenberg - yay

[Melville]

Dogtooth - big yay

[NickGlass]

Waste Land: A quasi-problematic yay

[dreamdead]

The Fighter - super-mild yay
The Social Network - yay
True Grit - nay

[Pop Trash]

Wating for 'Superman' -yay with reservations

Anyone see this yet? It's well made, but being that my mom is a teacher, I think she would find serious fault that they criticize teachers for not doing their job, but never do the same for parents. All of the parents they interview are total angels and that is emphatically not how it is sometimes.

Imma nay this. The more I think about it, the less I like it. Especially with the anti-union crap going on in the country.

[Weeping_Guitar]

Last Train Home - Yay
Get Low - yay
Fish Tank - yay
Two in the Wave - yay

Leaving - nay

[Lazlo]

Chloe - Mild Yay

[EyesWideOpen]

A Prophet - yay

And a reminder that my nay for 127 Hours and my yay for True Grit didn't get counted.

[endingcredits]

Exit Through the Gift Shop - nay

[Ivan Drago]

Exit Through the Gift Shop - nay

Wut.

[endingcredits]

Wut.

I didn't find the subject matter interesting and I couldn't stand any of the people.

[Ivan Drago]

I didn't find the subject matter interesting and I couldn't stand any of the people.

That's understandable. The one question I ask myself before seeing a documentary is "Does the subject matter interest me?"

[EyesWideOpen]

The Secret in their Eyes - big yay

[EyesWideOpen]

That's understandable. The one question I ask myself before seeing a documentary is "Does the subject matter interest me?"

I disagree. A good movie/documentary should be able to reel you in no matter your interest in the subject matter.

[Boner M]

The Secret in their Eyes - big yay
Gross.

[baby doll]

The Secret in their Eyes - big yayYeah, I'm with Boner, and I sort of liked the movie. I mean, I didn't think it was a terrible film or anything, but it's definitely the sort of safe, crowd-pleasing prestige flick that wins Academy Awards and gets rave reviews from Roger Ebert.

Speaking of Argentine movies from several years ago, Liverpool is out on DVD, so y'all should check that out. It's definitely not a crowd-pleaser, judging by the reaction of the crowd I saw it with at PIFF.

[Lazlo]

Alamar - Yay

[lovejuice]

Black Swan - YAY

[EyesWideOpen]

Yeah, I'm with Boner, and I sort of liked the movie. I mean, I didn't think it was a terrible film or anything, but it's definitely the sort of safe, crowd-pleasing prestige flick that wins Academy Awards and gets rave reviews from Roger Ebert.

Speaking of Argentine movies from several years ago, Liverpool is out on DVD, so y'all should check that out. It's definitely not a crowd-pleaser, judging by the reaction of the crowd I saw it with at PIFF.

The fact that you continue to make statements like this lets me know I'm not in the same mindspace as you about viewing film.

[baby doll]

The fact that you continue to make statements like this lets me know I'm not in the same mindspace as you about viewing film.That's a possibility. In this case, I saw the movie around the same time that I saw The Ghost Writer (another attempt to do an old school Hollywood thriller outside of the the United States), but where Polanski directs his film in a relatively classical style, The Secret in Their Eyes has more of a TV aesthetic. (The director, Juan José Campanella, has in fact done a lot of work for American television, directing episodes of House and Law & Order: SVU.)

On an unrelated note: Lebanon - yay

[EyesWideOpen]

8: The Mormon Proposition - yay

[Weeping_Guitar]

Megamind - yay

[dmk]

The Girl on the Train - big time yay
The Way Back - yay

Both very cinematic, but for different reasons. The Way Back is in its current state profoundly compromised in its length - when a gorgeous landscape pan is hacked short it becomes sadly apparent concessions were made in the editing stage ad hoc. I don’t think this 133 minute cut was Weir’s intended version, which must’ve been something like an hour longer (alas too long for this era) and I wonder if Weir shopped around a longer version earlier in the year before condensing his film. But it’s also moving and sporadically mesmerizing and strewn with brief poetics and above all its humbly traditional in its filmmaking and the best praise I can give it is had it been made 60 years ago, it would feel the same way. Fuck the current cinema.

The Girl on the Train however is very current and very gorgeous.

EDIT: Oh The Way Back might be considered 2011 here. YOUR MOVE, EZEE.

[Boner M]

The Illusionist - nay

Wow, surprised by all the love for this one.

[B-side]

The Illusionist - nay

Wow, surprised by all the love for this one.

Cuz it's fucking good?

[Watashi]

Cuz it's fucking good?
Indeed.

[elixir]

The Illusionist - yay

[baby doll]

The Girl on the Train - big time yay

The Girl on the Train however is very current and very gorgeous.Awesome. Have you seen any of Téchiné's other films?

(Incidentally, regarding the Bergman brew ha ha a week ago, Téchiné cites him as a major influence.)

[elixir]

Another Year - YAY

[soitgoes...]

127 Hours - yay

[B-side]

brew ha ha

I don't know if this is intentional or not, but it's spelled brouhaha.

[baby doll]

I don't know if this is intentional or not, but it's spelled brouhaha.I typed brewahaha, but my spell check came up "brew ha ha." I don't think I've ever seen it written.

[Ezee E]

This, too, will close tomorrow evening.

[Stay Puft]

The Girl on the Train - yay

Wish I had seen this in time for our awards consideration, but then it doesn't look like people were rushing out to see this one, so... put it up there with Father of My Children as another criminally underseen French film, I guess. I'm surprised more people aren't seeking this stuff out.

Gosh, not that many people are even seeing the new Claire Denis. I thought she at least had a bit of cultural currency around these parts.

[StanleyK]

True Grit - a very disappointed nay.

[EyesWideOpen]

This, too, will close tomorrow evening.

Before this is closed can you please change what you put as my rating for 127 Hours. I've put nay on it twice in this thread.

[Ezee E]

Before this is closed can you please change what you put as my rating for 127 Hours. I've put nay on it twice in this thread.
Done.

[Mysterious Dude]

While we're at it, I seem to have been counted twice for The Social Network.

[Bosco B Thug]

Oh yeah, and I'm down as a NAY for 127 Hours when, against all odds, I want to YAY it.


And...

Greenberg - Yay
Buried - Yay
True Grit - Yay

[MadMan]

I guess put me down as a "Nay" in the end for Karate Kid. Not that it really matters, though.


I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE - 2 out of 2
yay - philosphe_rouge, MadManHuh I didn't know that rouge had seen it. I'm curious to hear thoughts on it from a female perspective, especially her's.

Also once again kudos to Ezee E for doing this thread.

[soitgoes...]

Hereafter - nay

[lovejuice]

rabbit hole - yay

[Rowland]

Let Me In - minor yay

I had high hopes here, so this was a little disappointing, but it's a relatively fine work, even if most of its tonal and textual deviations from the original are to its detriment.

[EyesWideOpen]

Fish Tank - yay

[baby doll]

Is it too late for me to yay Somewhere?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Are we not updating this anymore? If we still are, Megamind gets a yay from me.

[eternity]

Chloe - nay
The Tillman Story - yay
Let Me In - yay

[Ezee E]

Yeah, no longer updating it myself.

[EyesWideOpen]

Yeah, no longer updating it myself.

I'd be willing to do it but I have no idea how that would work.

[transmogrifier]

Dogtooth - nay

Stunningly predictable for this type of movie - as soon as the dogtooth thing was mentioned, it was inevitable that the film was going to end with DIY dentistry, and within seconds of meeting the security guard, it was clear that she was going to be a spanner in the rigidly controlled works. It was basically 90 minutes of waiting for the inevitable to happen. Works as a simple-minded isolationist parable, I guess, but one without much meat on its bones.

Some lovely mise-en-scene work let down by a dull, dull, dull story.

[Boner M]

Dogtooth - nay

Stunningly predictable
I'll say!

[transmogrifier]

I'll say!

I'd say I'm usually more on the side of the consensus than not, wouldn't you? You can go count if you like, but it won't change my opinion.

I think I gave it a 56 or something like that, so I didn't hate it. But...it was such a drag to go into a film you had such high hopes for and see it plod out exactly the story beats predicated by its premise and first five minutes. I don't know. I'm glad these types of films get exposure, but I just wish this one was better.

*shrug*

[transmogrifier]

Also:

Tangled - yay
Megamind - nay
Unstoppable - nay
Enter the Void - nay

[Boner M]

I thought it was predictable to a degree, but only in the sense that I was nervous to see some things play out, and that's how the film generates suspense. As for the security guard being a spanner; well, that's why she's introduced first, right? The film's about the seams of this hermetically sealed world coming undone; I don't think these things are supposed to be surprises. That Rocky, Jaws and Flashdance (among other things) are part of the reason for the system's collapse, however, is; and I think Lanthimos keeps a good balance between the unexpected/inexplicable and the inevitable as the narrative progresses.

[Boner M]

Enter the Void - nayGood man.

[transmogrifier]

I thought it was predictable to a degree, but only in the sense that I was nervous to see some things play out, and that's how the film generates suspense. As for the security guard being a spanner; well, that's why she's introduced first, right? The film's about the seams of this hermetically sealed world coming undone; I don't think these things are supposed to be surprises. That Rocky, Jaws and Flashdance (among other things) are part of the reason for the system's collapse, however, is; and I think Lanthimos keeps a good balance between the unexpected/inexplicable and the inevitable as the narrative progresses.

I think it weakens the film to have the father introduce the spanner in the works when it is so obvious that she will act as a spanner in the works, if you know what I mean. If it is obvious to the audience, it should be more than obvious to the father. That's why it's kind of "meh" to see it all go down as you would expect.

And if it was such a hermetically sealed world, I'm surprised that there wasn't some thought given to how the parents may have manipulated the very idea of sex itself, perhaps inventing a "use" for the sexual organs (and urges) in a way that would make an outsider unneeded (and then it would have been interesting to see whether the incest developed regardless, with biological urges trumping brainwashing - an idea made impossible as soon as the son learns what sex is via the outsider). In other words, while the use of language as a controlling measure is interesting, there is really nothing much else nearly as interesting at work - just scare stories about the outside world like in The Village.

[Raiders]

And if it was such a hermetically sealed world, I'm surprised that there wasn't some thought given to how the parents may have manipulated the very idea of sex itself, perhaps inventing a "use" for the sexual organs (and urges) in a way that would make an outsider unneeded (and then it would have been interesting to see whether the incest developed regardless, with biological urges trumping brainwashing - an idea made impossible as soon as the son learns what sex is via the outsider). In other words, while the use of language as a controlling measure is interesting, there is really nothing much else nearly as interesting at work - just scare stories about the outside world like in The Village.

You can control and alter one's perception of language; you can't just magically remove male hormonal desires and needs.

[transmogrifier]

You can control and alter one's perception of language; you can't just magically remove male hormonal desires and needs.

But that's my point; I would have liked to have seen the film address this - it would have been a lot more interesting. There are a multitude of directions it could have gone in, but it went in the most routine one imaginable given the premise (plus I don't even see why the father brought the security guard in if his broken moral compass was so willing to allow incest in the end anyway to protect his secret). Truly disappointing.

[Raiders]

But that's my point; I would have liked to have seen the film address this - it would have been a lot more interesting. There are a multitude of directions it could have gone in, but it went in the most routine one imaginable given the premise (plus I don't even see why the father brought the security guard in if his broken moral compass was so willing to allow incest in the end anyway to protect his secret). Truly disappointing.

Pretty sure he really didn't want to go the route of incest but after the incident with the guard, he was left with no choice. Seems fairly sensical to me. There are a lot of medical issues with incest that I'm sure he wanted to avoid, but in the end he cared more about maintaining his rigid social structure.

[Derek]

But that's my point; I would have liked to have seen the film address this - it would have been a lot more interesting. There are a multitude of directions it could have gone in, but it went in the most routine one imaginable given the premise (plus I don't even see why the father brought the security guard in if his broken moral compass was so willing to allow incest in the end anyway to protect his secret). Truly disappointing.

Oy.