The Match Cut Xtreme Crocheting Thread (and The Dark Knight)

[Duncan]

2,000th post!

edit: ah, I see Morris has the 2,000th post...carry on then.

[Qrazy]

2,000th post!

edit: ah, I see Morris has the 2,000th post...carry on then.

lmfao

[Sycophant]

Okay, now we're just inflating the post count in here.

[Morris Schæffer]

Okay, now we're just inflating the post count in here.

Yep!:lol:

[Qrazy]

Okay, now we're just inflating the post count in here.

Fellating post count?

[Grouchy]

This thread will reach 100 pages.

By then, we'll probably be discussing Pauly Shore.

[Sycophant]

This thread will reach 100 pages.

By then, we'll probably be discussing Pauly Shore.

The way I view the forums*, IT ALREADY HAS.


Fellating post count?
Cock cock cock cock.

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*20 posts per page

[Watashi]

Cool fanmade poster for Batman 3.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tdkreturnsfanmadeposter-424x600.jpg

[Skitch]

Wow that is cool...

[Raiders]

The missus found a funny video:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1826024/

[Qrazy]

The missus found a funny video:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1826024/

Wats already posted it I think.

[Sxottlan]

That is very good for being fan art.

[Grouchy]

Cool fanmade poster for Batman 3.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tdkreturnsfanmadeposter-424x600.jpg
Awesome.

[balmakboor]

I finally saw this today. Definitely a solid movie and my new favorite Batman movie. It won't earn my highest marks because it was a bit overstuffed and focused a bit too highly on explosions and was a bit too briskly and sometimes confusingly edited during action sequences. (I guess that's just a long-winded way of saying I was just a bit more exhausted than entertained when it was over.)

Ledger certainly measured up to the hype though. That one scene where he's blowing up the hospital should alone put him in the Oscar race. It was hysterical.

[Morris Schæffer]

Apparently, this is coming out of the mouth of Robert Downey Jr.:


"My whole thing is that that I saw 'The Dark Knight'. I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and script writing and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.' I loved 'The Prestige' but didn't understand 'The Dark Knight'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? F-ck DC comics. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from."

[Grouchy]

I love Robert Downey Jr.

I'd totally kill whisky bottles with that guy.

[megladon8]

Funny, that RDJ quote reminds me of how I feel reading "Watchmen".

It's brilliant, wonderful, great, la-dee-da, whatever. Yes, it's an amazing piece of fiction.

But I really feel I'm being talked down to by Moore, and he doesn't have any desire to make his ideas easily understood by one who is uneducated.

It's not a knock against the book - it's just his style. He's supremely intelligent, and expects his readers to be so as well.

Unfortunately, I'm not that smart.

[number8]

http://pics.livejournal.com/doop/pic/001b8g4p

I'm hoping at least one of you is down with pop music enough to know the reference.

[megladon8]

Katy Perry looks like Zooey Deschanel with Scarlett Johansson's chest.

[Raiders]

I get it... not that funny, but I got it.

[Raiders]

Katy Perry looks like Zooey Deschanel with Scarlett Johansson's chest.

In other words, the sexiest woman alive?

[megladon8]

In other words, the sexiest woman alive?


Zooey's boobs is just fine.

[number8]

In other words, the sexiest woman alive?

Unfortunately her songs, such as "Ur So Gay", negate that.

[Raiders]

Unfortunately her songs, such as "Ur So Gay", negate that.

I'm not that deep.

[Henry Gale]

The Zooey comparison is said a lot (and I agree she looks like almost like she could be her twin in certain pictures), but am I the only one that thinks she looks a lot more like Emily Blunt in things like her music video?

[Ivan Drago]

Thanks 8. I'm scarred for life.

[Wryan]

So is The Riddler just going to be a lite Joker? Throw some riddles and teases and mysteries at Batman, let him exercise some of those detective muscles moreso than in previous entries. Put someone personal in harm's way. Cause some destruction and city-wide confusion/anxiety/fear. Et cetera.

Granted, this is broadly what villains do, anyway. But how are they going to keep it from seeming like a watered-down version of Joker? Anyone got any comics scans that point to a more developed side of The Riddler?

Would love to see Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Penguin tho. To be quite honest.

[number8]

http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/3858-fan-made-but-still-cool-qbatman-3q-poster.html

[Watashi]

http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/3858-fan-made-but-still-cool-qbatman-3q-poster.html
"Look up"

[number8]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/misterandersen/s_d/nolanjokerharley.jpg

[Skitch]

Hot!

[Sxottlan]

What's with the Joker slash?

[Morris Schæffer]

3rd time tonight.:)

[megladon8]

I can't believe I've still only seen this once.

[Ezee E]

this gets by, while others complain about asians licking watermelon rinds.

mmm'kay.

[Scar]

this gets by, while others complain about asians licking watermelon rinds.

mmm'kay.

Its not something linked to every screen on the site.

[Morris Schæffer]

I can't believe I've still only seen this once.

That is odd.:)

Anyway, three times is enough for me. I think I might have overdone it by one viewing actually.

[Skitch]

Two viewings for me, but I plan to see it again on vacation.

[number8]

Trying to find time for a 5th.

[Ivan Drago]

Two for me but I might see it one more time.

[Sycophant]

I've seen it once opening weekend. Something tells me I'll see it once more in the next six months to two years. Then I suspect I'll see it one last time between the following four years and my death.

[Watashi]

I've seen it 6 times.

[Watashi]

But then again, I am the same insane person who saw The Incredibles 37 times during its theatrical run.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Some very interesting articles on The Dark Knight from David Bordwell and Jim Emerson:

Superheroes for Sale (http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/?p=2713)
Bordwell discusses the more practical side of the modern superhero surge. It's cool watching him suggest more practical reasons for their success, instead of some nebulous "zeigeisty" reason.

Batman vs. the Zeitgest (http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/2008/08/batman_vs_the_zeitgeist.html)
Emerson goes on to discuss the problems he had with the style and construction of the film, as well as the somewhat incomplete "commentary" of the film; how it brings up questions of our modern times without coming to any meaningful conclusions.

Both are suggesting that my initial praise may have been too effusive. I've only seen the flick once, so a re-viewing is in order, hopefully on IMAX.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm assuming this is fake...

Can the script possibly be done? I don't think so.

Don't click if you believe the script was leaked and reveals the fate of some characters in question....

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1593180/story.jhtml

[number8]

I'm assuming this is fake...

Can the script possibly be done? I don't think so.

Don't click if you believe the script was leaked and reveals the fate of some characters in question....

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1593180/story.jhtml

What are you talking about? That's a script for The Dark Knight. Of course it's done. They shot it.

[Dukefrukem]

What are you talking about? That's a script for The Dark Knight. Of course it's done. They shot it.

whoops I read that wrong. I thought it meant the sequel to the Dark Knight. Nevertheless, the description of the scene is interesting..

[Ezee E]

Three times. I think i'm done until the DVD.

[Milky Joe]

Three times. I think i'm done until the DVD.

Good policy. I saw it a fourth time and was sufficiently bored by everything except Ledger's performance, which actually got better. Compared to him, everyone else seems dull.

[Grouchy]

I saw it only two times, only first one in IMAX.

I'm not sure if I'll watch it a third one before DVD. Not completely out of the question, however.

And that stuff 8 posted about the metrosexual re-vamped Riddler is interesting.

[transmogrifier]

One time. That's enough.

[Barty]

3 times in IMAX.

[kamran]

Once, but I've been meaning to give it a second look.

But I've been slacking off this summer in the movie department, so I should probably focus on other titles first.

Is the IMAX experience really worth it?

[Grouchy]

Once, but I've been meaning to give it a second look.

But I've been slacking off this summer in the movie department, so I should probably focus on other titles first.

Is the IMAX experience really worth it?
I'd say it is except the changes in the height of the screen ended up bugging me. I didn't care for the switch in format of the scenes shot with the 70mm.

But, don't get me wrong. It's totally worth it.

[number8]

I saw it on IMAX all 4 times and I refuse to see it on a regular screen.

[Morris Schæffer]

I would see it a fourth time if an IMAX screen were to magically pop out of the ground in my country.

Oh, one new thing I picked up is how the joker, after he blows up the hospital and walks away, enters a nearby schoolbus using the backdoor and leaves with a bunch of evacuees. So that's a second schoolbus escape. It happens almost off-screen, and thus isn't worth making a fuss over, but did no one notice him entering the bus?

How long before Greyhounds become the new thing in Hollywood?

[Skitch]

I did, Morris...it's where he got the hostages for the end, no?

[Morris Schæffer]

I did, Morris...it's where he got the hostages for the end, no?

I thought they were simply other evacuees from the hospital and Joker was now among them.

[Lurker]

Oh, one new thing I picked up is how the joker, after he blows up the hospital and walks away, enters a nearby schoolbus using the backdoor and leaves with a bunch of evacuees. So that's a second schoolbus escape. It happens almost off-screen, and thus isn't worth making a fuss over, but did no one notice him entering the bus?

A lot of my friends joked about how Dent magically appeared in Maroni's limo, but if you noticed, you can actually see Maroni's thug getting jerked off the screen when they were about to enter the car. Anyway, the bus was hijacked by his thugs too.

[Morris Schæffer]

Anyway, the bus was hijacked by his thugs too.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. For some reason, I had the impression to make out a bunch of anguished civilians.

[number8]

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/215/5/1/2_Dark_2_Serious_by_sonLUC.jpg

[number8]

This is by the same guy who did that Riddler one:

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n456/chisp85/deadshot3copycopy.jpg?t=121950 9997

[Dead & Messed Up]

After reading up on him, Deadshot seems boring.

[Grouchy]

After reading up on him, Deadshot seems boring.
I really like him. A mercenary marksman with a death wish is a solid Batman villain to me.

[Ezee E]

After reading up on him, Deadshot seems boring.
I think the opposite. After Batman goes on hiatus, this guy tries to be the new hero, only he actually kills victims.

And sniper scenes are always fun.

[Amnesiac]

I think the opposite. After Batman goes on hiatus, this guy tries to be the new hero, only he actually kills victims.


I can't say that it would be a bad idea for the next film to push forward into this kind of territory. I've come to realize that his policy on killing criminals seems to be one of Batman's definitive moral quandaries as a vigilante character. Perhaps this is why many people felt dissatisfied with some of his more reckless behaviour in Begins (the police-car trampling and the indirect murder of Ra's Al Ghul).

In fact, I kind of wish The Dark Knight had put his moral code more up to the test. Then again, perhaps this would have been more logical to pursue in a third film, wherein The Joker's reign of chaos has continued to a fervently dangerous degree and thus, the idea of pragmatically doing away with him once and for all becomes all the more tempting.

[number8]

After reading up on him, Deadshot seems boring.

He's my second favorite Batman villain after Joker.

[number8]

I think the opposite. After Batman goes on hiatus, this guy tries to be the new hero, only he actually kills victims.

I agreed with you. (http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/3935-yet-another-awesome-fan-made-qbatman-3q-posterdeadshot.html)

[Ezee E]

I can't say that it would be a bad idea for the next film to push forward into this kind of territory. I've come to realize that his policy on killing criminals seems to be one of Batman's definitive moral quandaries as a vigilante character. Perhaps this is why many people felt dissatisfied with some of his more reckless behaviour in Begins (the police-car trampling and the indirect murder of Ra's Al Ghul).

In fact, I kind of wish The Dark Knight had put his moral code more up to the test. Then again, perhaps this would have been more logical to pursue in a third film, wherein The Joker's reign of chaos has continued to a fervently dangerous degree and thus, the idea of pragmatically doing away with him once and for all becomes all the more tempting.
they could somehow answer to The Joker by having Deadshot be the killer on him too as he's trying to do something. Then he looks like the hero. Even if it were for money by some mob member.

[Ezee E]

I agreed with you. (http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/movie-news/3935-yet-another-awesome-fan-made-qbatman-3q-posterdeadshot.html)
He may not be a major villain, and a simple assassin, but if one were to have him kill Joker at the beginning, then start moving on to certain politicians after being considered a hero...

There's plenty to look at. You could even have The Penguin be involved as the one supplying him with the goods I guess.

[Saya]

I thought these looked cool:

http://i34.tinypic.com/2554c8z.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/96ffvp.jpg

http://www.hottoys.com.hk/product.php?cat=66&pid=388

http://www.hottoys.com.hk/product.php?cat=66&pid=370

[Grouchy]

That's an awesome figure. When I first saw your pic, I thought it was a production still.

[Morris Schæffer]

Those look really incredible. I was surprised there was no Alien Queen however under the Aliens section.

Oh, and what are the prices for those Joker dolls?

[Saya]

Those look really incredible. I was surprised there was no Alien Queen however under the Aliens section.

Oh, and what are the prices for those Joker dolls?

I'm not sure how much they are in the US, but I know this (http://www.gator.nl/product_info.php?products_id=2 500) shop in Holland sells them for 165 euro (that's about $250). Pretty expensive...

[Morris Schæffer]

That's a load of dough!:eek:

[Skitch]

I'm going to see it again today. Theres a digital theater, here at the beach...ahhhh vacation...

[megladon8]

Going to go see it again on either Tuesday or Wednesday.

Can't freaking wait.

[megladon8]

It's a flop in Japan. (http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/08/28/japan-hates-the-dark-knight/)


The story is very pessimistic. It has a dark and gloomy texture that Japanese movie fans do not find appealing in a ‘comic hero’ film… Japanese movie fans expect such films to be fun and action packed, for the hero to be attractive, for the villain to be loud and outrageous, and for the movie itself to be easy to understand and light.

Wait wait wait...

The Japanese are complaining about something being too hard to understand?

Really?

[number8]

Don't confuse Japanese filmmakers with the Japanese public.

Because by that logic, all American films are like The House Bunny.

[megladon8]

Don't confuse Japanese filmmakers with the Japanese public.

Because by that logic, all American films are like The House Bunny.


But I've read lots of stuff which says Japanese filmgoers tend to like more intellectual, philosophical, and "out there" concepts than American filmgoers.

Just seems funny that the country where "Neon Genesis Evangelion" is almost a religion finds The Dark Knight hard to understand.

[megladon8]

***SPOILRS AHEAD***



An interview with Aaron Eckhart has shown that, yes, Two-Face is in fact gone for good...


Aaron Eckhart on Two-Face
Source:Heather Newgen
September 3, 2008


SPOILER ALERT!: The following article spoils certain aspects of The Dark Knight. If you have not seen the movie, turn back now!

Yes, it's true. Aaron Eckhart says goodbye to Batman. At the press day for his upcoming indie film Towelhead, ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype! talked to the actor who portrayed Harvey Dent/Two-Face in The Dark Knight. He told us he's definitely not signed on for another film and confirmed his character is dead.

Eckhart laughed about how he tried to ask if there was a chance he was coming back and was good-humored about the deadly fate of Dent.

CS/SHH!: Is Harvey Dent alive?
Aaron Eckhart: No. He is dead as a door nail.

CS/SHH!: So he's not coming back?
Eckhart: He ain't coming back baby!

CS/SHH!: I was hoping he would.
Eckhart: No. I asked Chris [Nolan] that question and he goes, "You're dead" before I could even get the question out of my mouth. "Hey Chris, am I?" "You're dead!" Alright, cool.

CS/SHH!: That's not a problem in comic book movies. You could still come back.
Eckhart: I think in contract negotiations it's a problem.

CS/SHH!: So you were never signed on for another film?
Eckhart: No, I'm not coming back. I think unfortunately, Heath [Ledger] was supposed to go on and that didn't work out. I'm nobody. I'm a cog. I have no say over this sort of stuff. I'm sure that there's so many other characters that they could whip together. I heard Angelina Jolie was going to be Catwoman or something like that. I thought that was a great idea. I'd like to be in that one.

CS/SHH!: It must be gratifying that so many people responded to your character.
Eckhart: Yeah, I dig it. Write your Congressman. I like that for the first time in my career I'm getting fan mail from kids and 8-year-olds. "My name is Bill. I really liked the film." I've never had that before. I think that's fun. I think someone told me they're going to be Harvey Two-Face for Halloween which is cool. I said to two kids the other day, "Did you see Batman yet?" Then I come to find out like two seconds later they've seen it four times. People are really going back to see it. My parents saw it I think 12 [times] so far. They're sick that it's going out of the theaters.

CS/SHH!: Do they normally see your movies 12 times?
Eckhart: I don't know about 12, but they like to go see the movies. They like to go see the audience. They like to tell people that I'm in the movie like popcorn people.

[number8]

But I've read lots of stuff which says Japanese filmgoers tend to like more intellectual, philosophical, and "out there" concepts than American filmgoers.

Just seems funny that the country where "Neon Genesis Evangelion" is almost a religion finds The Dark Knight hard to understand.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. Japanese teenagers are the same as American teenagers, and teenagers still drive the box office. High grossing films in Japan for the past couple of years? Harry Potter, I Am Legend, Transformers, Pokemon, Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, Ghilbi movies... Kid-friendly light entertainment still reign just the same. It's not like they're some superior cinephile culture that celebrate filmmakers like Kiyoshi Kurosawa and Shinya Tsukamoto. Heck, Miike is a direct-to-video hack there (in the traditional meaning of the word). If anything, I'd think they'd be more inclined towards Sci-Fi/Fantasy stories, and you can see that reflected in their action/superhero movies and anime. So I can't be surprised that an uber-serious, pseudo-realistic, post-9/11 angsty treatment of Batman like TDK didn't go over too well.

Actually, American superheroes never did fare too well in Japan. The only exception is Spiderman, which is probably because it's very cartoony and the costumes resemble Japanese sentai TV shows.

[transmogrifier]

Man, they botched Two-Face so badly.

[megladon8]

Man, they botched Two-Face so badly.


I don't think so at all.

They gave the character purpose and thematic meaning in the story. The rise and inevitable fall of Harvey Dent was pure classic tragedy, and his death gave way to a powerful finale.

It was a lot better than the way other superhero movies have thrown in big-name villains just to please the audience and go "hey, here's this guy! Cool, eh?"

Look at Venom in Spider-Man 3 - now there is a botched villain if there ever was one. Regardless of peoples' personal feelings towards the character, it was so obviously a subplot that was thrown in to please the studios, when they should have just let Raimi do what he wanted to do with Sandman and Harry, and left Venom for another movie.

The Nolan brothers did a great sort of "anti-comic-fanboy" move with Two-Face, in that they made him a well-rounded and symapthetic character without just copy-and-pasting the comic book history.

This is something I very much agree with D_Davis about with regards to comic book superhero films - some of them spend so much time trying to be faithful to the source material, and forget that, while they do share certain strong similarities (a comic book is basically a storyboard for a movie), they are different mediums. Dialogue that reads well in little bubbles on a page does not necessarily sound good on the screen, and the same goes for all elements of the comic book medium, from action to quieter, more personal moments.

The Nolans made a Batverse that uses live-action film to its advantage, and I thought that showed in spades with the Two-Face arc.

[Grouchy]

Actually, American superheroes never did fare too well in Japan. The only exception is Spiderman, which is probably because it's very cartoony and the costumes resemble Japanese sentai TV shows.
All that without mentioning Japanese Spiderman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxde2a2_iQ)...

[number8]

All that without mentioning Japanese Spiderman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxde2a2_iQ)...

Which was a sentai show. It all makes sense.

[Dead & Messed Up]

The Nolans made a Batverse that uses live-action film to its advantage, and I thought that showed in spades with the Two-Face arc.

Agreed. I think the whole rogue's gallery has been quite cool, in that they keep the underlying ideas that drive the villains while adapting them to a much more realistic environment. It's weird to realize just how much of the "Batverse" has successfully made the transition. Scarecrow, R'as, the Joker, Two-Face, Zsasz, Carmine Falcone, Sal Maroni, Joe Chill.

[number8]

I'm gonna keep pimping Deadshot.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/742/007az7.jpg

[Dukefrukem]

***SPOILRS AHEAD***



An interview with Aaron Eckhart has shown that, yes, Two-Face is in fact gone for good...

worst death ever....

[DavidSeven]

That Eckhart interview seemed pretty tongue in cheek. Maybe that's just how he talks though.

[megladon8]

I'm surprised that in all the pages of discussion for this movie, I don't think I've ever seen mention of Rachel's letter, and Alfred's actions regarding it.

[transmogrifier]

I'm surprised that in all the pages of discussion for this movie, I don't think I've ever seen mention of Rachel's letter, and Alfred's actions regarding it.

Probably it is another meaningless stab at profundity.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Probably it is another meaningless stab at profundity.

I thought it was a small-scale parallel of what Bruce and Gordon decided to do about Harvey Dent. Hide the truth as a means of preserving something. Whether or not it's the right decision is another question the film raises.

It also gave Michael Caine a bit more to do, which I don't object to.

[megladon8]

Probably it is another meaningless stab at profundity.


Yes...we get it...you didn't like the movie. I think it's safe for you to move on now.

[Mysterious Dude]

Man, they botched Two-Face so badly.
Totally.

http://www.movie-poster.ws/movies/action/images/batman/tommyleejones-twoface.jpg

[transmogrifier]

Yes...we get it...you didn't like the movie. I think it's safe for you to move on now.


No, I think I have a few more dismissive single sentence posts left in me. We'll see how it all goes, shall we?


[/excited]

[megladon8]

So yeah, ignoring the troll, opinions on the letter and Alfred's decision?

Honestly, I'm glad he burned it. I'm glad that Bruce will never know the truth about Rachel. I don't think he would have been able to handle that added pain, and it would have completely destroyed him, thereby leaving Gotham victim to the Joker.

[Qrazy]

So yeah, ignoring the troll, opinions on the letter and Alfred's decision?

Honestly, I'm glad he burned it. I'm glad that Bruce will never know the truth about Rachel. I don't think he would have been able to handle that added pain, and it would have completely destroyed him, thereby leaving Gotham victim to the Joker.

Or he would have been like oh sweet she didn't actually love me anymore I don't feel so bad for the bitch's death.

[Grouchy]

Batman 3 = Deadshot + Riddler + Robin

I mean it.

[Ezee E]

Batman 3 = Deadshot + Riddler + Robin

I mean it.
Probably a good guess.

[Scar]

Batman 3 = Deadshot + Riddler + Robin

I mean it.

Batman reluctantly takes on Robin, then Deadshot takes Robin's head-off.

[Qrazy]

Probably a good guess.

I really don't see Robin happening. I know I've read Bale say he wouldn't do a film with Robin and I think I've read Nolan say he's not interested either. If however they hand off the reigns of the franchise which seems likely to me, then anything goes.

[Grouchy]

Batman reluctantly takes on Robin, then Deadshot takes Robin's head-off.
Hah!

I really wish Robin did happen, though. I know Bale and Nolan have spoken against it, but it's still an integral part of the character. I love these two movies, but somehow I wish they were slightly less "realistic" in order for some Batman elements to appear.

[number8]

I take it back. Deadshot's too interesting and too cool to just be a thematic parallel for Batman. I think I'd rather see a Suicide Squad movie.

[Ezee E]

I take it back. Deadshot's too interesting and too cool to just be a thematic parallel for Batman. I think I'd rather see a Suicide Squad movie.
But didn't you want less comic book movies?

[number8]

But didn't you want less comic book movies?

Sure, and I'm not gonna be calling for a Suicide Squad movie, but I'm saying I'd prefer Deadshot to be featured in that instead of Batman 3 (which I don't even necessarily want to see made).

[number8]

...although a Suicide Squad movie would actually break from the superhero movie mold. It'd be a little different, at least, like the Green Arrow movie is going to be. Dirty Dozen with superpowers? I'd take it over a sequel that won't live up to The Dark Knight.

[transmogrifier]

So yeah, ignoring the troll......

troll (n.) - someone who happens to dislike a movie another person, like, really, really, really, really likes.

PS, posts in this thread:

megladon8 290
number8 184
Qrazy 130
Ezee E 113
Watashi 89
Grouchy 74
iosos 73
Saya 72
Spinal 64
Morris Schæffer 59
Sycophant 57
Wryan 49
Clipper Ship Captain 43
Melville 42
Ivan Drago 41
Skitch 40
Daniel Davis 39
MadMan 39
Dukefrukem 38
Scar 38
Israfel the Black 38
Duncan 36
Rowland 33
Raiders 30
DavidSeven 26
Boner M 24
Winston* 23
Barty 19
Dead & Messed Up 19
Antoine 19
origami_mustache 18
Pop Trash 17
transmogrifier 15

[Scar]

troll (n.) - someone who happens to dislike a movie another person, like, really, really, really, really likes.

PS, posts in this thread:

megladon8 290
number8 184
Qrazy 130
Ezee E 113
Watashi 89
Grouchy 74
iosos 73
Saya 72
Spinal 64
Morris Schæffer 59
Sycophant 57
Wryan 49
Clipper Ship Captain 43
Melville 42
Ivan Drago 41
Skitch 40
Daniel Davis 39
MadMan 39
Dukefrukem 38
Scar 38
Israfel the Black 38
Duncan 36
Rowland 33
Raiders 30
DavidSeven 26
Boner M 24
Winston* 23
Barty 19
Dead & Messed Up 19
Antoine 19
origami_mustache 18
Pop Trash 17
transmogrifier 15

I approve this post.

[megladon8]

See, the difference is, I actually try to post real things, you know, promoting discussion about the movie.

If you dislike it, fine - lots of people here do.

But not everyone simply makes flippant, dismissive comments to be a prick.

[Winston*]

But not everyone simply makes flippant, dismissive comments to be a prick.

Indeed, some people make flippant, dismissive comments for the lulz.

[transmogrifier]

See, the difference is, I actually try to post real things, you know, promoting discussion about the movie.

If you dislike it, fine - lots of people here do.

But not everyone simply makes flippant, dismissive comments to be a prick.

But, don't you see, the very last part of your post is an assumption based on the fact that I'm commenting negatively on a film you really, really, really, really, really like. There's absolutely no way you can know why I make flippant, dismissive comments.

1. The Meg Theory: 'cos I'm a prick
2. The Winston* Theory: for the lulz
3. The Recreational Scarcity Theory: 'cos I'm bored
4. The Grudge Theory: 'cos Nolan felt up my granny on the subway into Brussels
5. The Fat Finger Theory: the more I type, the greater the riskj of seppoiing eerors
6. The Pesky Moderator Theory: in fact, I type out thesis-length replies everytime, but some mod keeps on editing them down to a misrepresentative core as a florid show of unbridled power over us mere mortals
7. The Urge to Procreate Theory: 'cos girls love flippant and dismissive. Just ask Winston* - knee deep in double X he is.
8. The Horse not Zebra Theory: 'cos I don't like the movie

[Boner M]

9. The 'Michael Caine in wise codger mode' theory - 'cos some people just want to watch the world burn.

DUN DUN DUN

[Mysterious Dude]

I support flippant remarks.

[megladon8]

trans, I apologize for snapping at you yesterday.

I've been under a lot of stress lately, trying to find more/better work, mom's health, personal issues, etc.

Anyways, bottom line is, I'm sorry to have attacked you. I've have no quarry with you, and I hope the feeling is mutual.

I know you just didn't like the movie and were being humorous in your comments, I'm just not in the best of moods lately.

Again, my apologies.

[transmogrifier]

trans, I apologize for snapping at you yesterday.

I've been under a lot of stress lately, trying to find more/better work, mom's health, personal issues, etc.

Anyways, bottom line is, I'm sorry to have attacked you. I've have no quarry with you, and I hope the feeling is mutual.

I know you just didn't like the movie and were being humorous in your comments, I'm just not in the best of moods lately.

Again, my apologies.

No worries at all. i didn't see it as an attack - I just saw another opportunity (2 even!) to make lists. I love lists.

:)

[transmogrifier]

9. The 'Michael Caine in wise codger mode' theory - 'cos some people just want to watch the world burn.

DUN DUN DUN

I'm ashamed I overlooked that.

[Grouchy]

10. The Grouchy Theory: Because you're a dirty cocksucker.

[transmogrifier]

I think it's quite brave to ascribe your name to an unclean sex act. I just hope that you wash afterwards.

[number8]

OMGDEADSHOT.

[Watashi]

OMGDEADSHOT.
Snuh?

[Skitch]

I still say Dent's not. :)

[Dead & Messed Up]

I still say Dent's not. :)

Same here, but that doesn't mean I want him in the next flick. I'd rather see a couple of new villains re-interpreted.

Technically, none of Batman's foes have died. Crane and the Joker are in jail, and we never actually see R'as or Two-Face die. I think that's kinda cool.

[Skitch]

Same here, but that doesn't mean I want him in the next flick. I'd rather see a couple of new villains re-interpreted.

Technically, none of Batman's foes have died. Crane and the Joker are in jail, and we never actually see R'as or Two-Face die. I think that's kinda cool.

110% on the same page, you and I.

[Ezee E]

Was Deadshot ever in the animated series?

[number8]

Snuh?

Just wanted to bring the thread back to Batman.

[number8]

Was Deadshot ever in the animated series?

He showed up as canon fodder in a couple of Justice League episodes. Then Justice League Unlimited did a Suicide Squad episode that made him the star of the story.

[Skitch]

He showed up as canon fodder in a couple of Justice League episodes. Then Justice League Unlimited did a Suicide Squad episode that made him the star of the story.


Wasn't he in an episode of Batman Beyond as well?

[number8]

No. He'd be like 70 years old on that show.

[megladon8]

No. He'd be like 70 years old on that show.


It's not like that stopped them from coming up with ways to show pretty much every other Batman villain.

[number8]

It's not like that stopped them from coming up with ways to show pretty much every other Batman villain.

?

They didn't. Ra's and Mr. Freeze appeared once each, because they're immortal, and Bane had a brief cameo as a dying drooling drug addict. That's it.

Bruce Timm didn't want Batman Beyond to feature "futurized" versions of Batman villains so they made sure to focus on new creations. Joker didn't even appear until the movie.

[megladon8]

?

They didn't. Ra's and Mr. Freeze appeared once each, because they're immortal, and Bane had a brief cameo as a dying drooling drug addict. That's it.

Bruce Timm didn't want Batman Beyond to feature "futurized" versions of Batman villains so they made sure to focus on new creations. Joker didn't even appear until the movie.


But there was the Jokerz gang, and wasn't there an episode with a futuristic Clayface type character?

[number8]

But there was the Jokerz gang, and wasn't there an episode with a futuristic Clayface type character?

That's not the same as re-hashing old Bat-villains. My point was that they never passed on a moniker besides Terry being the new Batman. There's no future-Robin, no future-Two-Face, no future-Nightwing, no Future-Alfred, no future-Catwoman. They never had Mad Hatter's long-lost genius nephew's clone become the new Mad Hatter or the like, as these "next generation" future stories usually do (see: The Next Avengers movie).

1) The Jokerz were never part of Terry's rogues, per se. They were just a regular Gotham street gang in clown make-up, showing up in most episodes as henchmen or throwaway punching bags, sharing none of Joker's traits. It would be like calling the Aryan Brotherhood a modern update of Adolf Hitler, which isn't true. They're followers.

2) I don't remember a new Clayface, but you might be referring to Inque. She's not a Clayface shapeshifter. She just turns her body into liquid like that one Wonder Twin. Similar powers are common in these things, obviously, so with a completely different name, look, gimmick and use of said power, you can't call one a re-do of another.

[Ezee E]

That's not the same as re-hashing old Bat-villains. My point was that they never passed on a moniker besides Terry being the new Batman. There's no future-Robin, no future-Two-Face, no future-Nightwing, no Future-Alfred, no future-Catwoman. They never had Mad Hatter's long-lost genius nephew's clone become the new Mad Hatter or the like, as these "next generation" future stories usually do (see: The Next Avengers movie).

1) The Jokerz were never part of Terry's rogues, per se. They were just a regular Gotham street gang in clown make-up, showing up in most episodes as henchmen or throwaway punching bags, sharing none of Joker's traits. It would be like calling the Aryan Brotherhood a modern update of Adolf Hitler, which isn't true. They're followers.

2) I don't remember a new Clayface, but you might be referring to Inque. She's not a Clayface shapeshifter. She just turns her body into liquid like that one Wonder Twin. Similar powers are common in these things, obviously, so with a completely different name, look, gimmick and use of said power, you can't call one a re-do of another.
Remember the Marvel 2099 series? Ridiculous, but they had some awesome costumes.

[Skitch]

I HATED that 2099 shit. Painful.

[Morris Schæffer]

Uh, bye bye Titanic?

http://www.mania.com/dark-knight-hitting-theaters-again-january_article_87249.html

[Ivan Drago]

It's IMAX theaters only. Good luck.

[Ezee E]

Uh, bye bye Titanic?

http://www.mania.com/dark-knight-hitting-theaters-again-january_article_87249.html
Rereleases do little business. No way it makes $100 mill more.

[Raiders]

It's IMAX theaters only. Good luck.

They've already accounted for almost 10% of its gross.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Rereleases do little business. No way it makes $100 mill more.

You mean $400 million more? Inflation, dood.

[Ezee E]

You mean $400 million more? Inflation, dood.
Inflation or not, it would still be listed as the top grossing movie of all time. It'd be like Barry Bonds' record.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Inflation or not, it would still be listed as the top grossing movie of all time. It'd be like Barry Bonds' record.

Except even more incorrect.

[number8]

Adjusting to inflation is kind of silly, I always thought. After all, should we also take into account the arrival of home video, piracy and television?

[Scar]

Adjusting to inflation is kind of silly, I always thought. After all, should we also take into account the arrival of home video, piracy and television?

Very good point.

[Ezee E]

Very good point.
Also take into account the amount of films available in the theatres. Back when Gone With the Wind was out, it was in the theaters for a good year. It's quite amazing that Dark Knight is still in the top ten two months after it came out.

[Sven]

Also, when you consider the inflation not only of the dollar but of the population as well, coupled with the amount of theaters we have now as opposed to then, it all becomes astronomically difficult to compare.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I bought the soundtrack to the flick last week. It's awesome. I was too wrapped up in the movie to appreciate the subdued leitmotif work by Zimmer and Howard.

A few tracks sit uncomfortably close to Unbreakable, but considering how similar the two films are, in terms of tone, it's not a huge deal.

[Qrazy]

Adjusting to inflation is kind of silly, I always thought. After all, should we also take into account the arrival of home video, piracy and television?

It makes a pretty big difference though. Still the best barometer for these things is really asses in seats.

[Skitch]

I got the score after my first viewing. I love it.

Oh, and I had my fourth viewing this last saturday...first one in IMAX!

[number8]

Still the best barometer for these things is really asses in seats.

Not really. Like I said, take the advancement of home theater into account. With the gap narrowing and folks willing to wait, maybe we should take the DVD and OnDemand into account of a film's profitability. In 1997, home video is nowhere near in competition with theaters as they are now.

[Raiders]

Yeah, I mean, in 1939 how else were you going to ever see Gone With the Wind without going to the theatre?

[number8]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/filthysize/1.jpg

[Amnesiac]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/filthysize/1.jpg

Wow. What the heck is Batman talking about? "The realpolitik ambiguity of their ultimate attainment". Convoluted much?

[megladon8]

Wow. What the heck is Batman talking about? "The realpolitik ambiguity of their ultimate attainment". Convoluted much?


Yeah, I think that was kind of the point.

The movie's often criticized for getting too high-and-mighty with its moral/ethical issues.

[Amnesiac]

Yeah, I think that was kind of the point.

I got that, thanks. :P I'd still like to know what he's talking about, though.

[number8]

I got that, thanks. :P I'd still like to know what he's talking about, though.

I'm not sure how to say it in layman terms, but I think he's basically referring to how the current political landscape makes moral decisions blurry (realpolitik ambiguity) in terms of how we achieve the things we need (ultimate attainment) for a working government (stated needs of the state).

..which is basically Batman's main plot dilemma in the movie.

[Ezee E]

Good interview (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/10/christopher-nol.html) with Nolan regarding the success of the movie and the possibility of a sequel.

[megladon8]

That was a great read, E. Thanks for posting it!

[Amnesiac]

The campaign for Ledger's Oscar nomination has begun.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/103108/jokehope.jpg

Sort of.

[Morris Schæffer]

Ledger needs a campaign?:cool:

[Sycophant]

Wouldn't it be really awkward if the Academy nominated him, but then he lost?

[eternity]

Wouldn't it be really awkward if the Academy nominated him, but then he lost?

If he gets nominated, he wins. The backlash would be so huge.

[Qrazy]

Given how political the oscars are I can genuinely see him getting nominated and winning. Particularly because he didn't win for Brokeback and his performance here wasn't half bad. Hollywood really loves suicide/martyrs.

[megladon8]

Who would accept it for him? Michelle Williams? Christopher Nolan? Gary Oldman again?

[Spinal]

I don't think you could write off a Ledger win as strictly politics or sympathy. It was a really, really good performance.

[megladon8]

I don't think you could write off a Ledger win as strictly politics or sympathy. It was a really, really good performance.


This.

*predictable*

[Dead & Messed Up]

Wouldn't it be really awkward if the Academy nominated him, but then he lost?

Honestly, I would prefer that this is what happens. Ledger's gone, and an award to him, while nice, isn't really an award for him at all, since he's not around to receive it.

It's almost counterproductive, since it'd feel like the Oscars patting itself on the back for being so sensitive. You know, like when Crash won.

[Ezee E]

So far, I think Ledger would have the award, dead or alive.

[Spinal]

Looking down the list of films I've seen, I also liked Clooney in Burn After Reading, Downey in Tropic Thunder, Murray in City of Ember and Madsen in Boarding Gate. Might come down to between Ledger and Downey for me thus far.

[Watashi]

After Ledger, Straithern in My Blueberry Nights is probably my favorite performance.

[Ezee E]

After Ledger, Straithern in My Blueberry Nights is probably my favorite performance.
Yup, he's on my list of the best supporting actors for this year.

[megladon8]

I think Ledger would have still been nominated even if he hadn't died.

[Qrazy]

I don't think you could write off a Ledger win as strictly politics or sympathy. It was a really, really good performance.

Yeah true but that's why we're saying the odds on multiple levels are stacked in his favor.

[megladon8]

It seems Ledger's performance is pretty much universally heralded, even among those who disliked the movie it was in.

The only few people I've read reviews by who didn't like his performance, wrote at length with such ridiculous hyperbole about how terrible the film was that I couldn't take any of it seriously anyways.

[Qrazy]

It seems Ledger's performance is pretty much universally heralded, even among those who disliked the movie it was in.

The only few people I've read reviews by who didn't like his performance, wrote at length with such ridiculous hyperbole about how terrible the film was that I couldn't take any of it seriously anyways.

That doesn't mean that it will necessarily be a better performance than everything we'll see before awards time, still plenty of solid films to be released. So while it was good I could easily see something better coming along although I haven't seen anything all that special yet.

[megladon8]

That doesn't mean that it will necessarily be a better performance than everything we'll see before awards time, still plenty of solid films to be released. So while it was good I could easily see something better coming along although I haven't seen anything all that special yet.


OK, but I didn't say there was nothing better.

I am just saying it seems to be universally recognized that it was a good performance.

[Raiders]

Ledger was great, but I'll give Bill Irwin in Rachel Getting Married my vote for the time being.

[Qrazy]

OK, but I didn't say there was nothing better.

I am just saying it seems to be universally recognized that it was a good performance.

Yeah.

[megladon8]

Ledger was great, but I'll give Bill Irwin in Rachel Getting Married my vote for the time being.


I REALLY want to see this.

Anne Hathaway's actually quite good.

[Amnesiac]

Anne Hathaway's actually quite good.

She is absolutely fantastic in Rachel Getting Married. Hope she snags a nomination. Bill Irwin is alright, too.

[Morris Schæffer]

I think Ledger would have still been nominated even if he hadn't died.

Of course! There cannot be any doubt regarding this!!

[Watashi]

The Executive Committee of the Academy of Motion Pictures music branch has ruled that the score for The Dark Knight is disqualified because five names were listed as composers on the music cue sheet. What? Apparently this is a common practice done to ensure that the entire music team is financially rewarded. ASCAP and BMI use the names listed on the cue sheet to distribute royalties to composers.

The names listed include Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard and three other individuals — music editor Alex Gibson, ambient music designer Mel Wesson and composer Lorne Balfe. Variety reports that Gibson, Wesson and Balfe signed an affidavit stating that the score was primarily the work of Zimmer and Howard. But the committee also had documentation claiming that somewhere between 30% and 40% of the score was not authored by Zimmer and Howard. Batman Begins was also disqualified for similar reasons.

For about a month I was listening to The Dark Knight score on repeat. “Why So Serious” never fails to get me pumped up. It’s really a shame that the music is disqualified for the reasons given. I’m sure there might be a lot more to it, and the rules are there to protect the artists involved, but it seems to me that this is a case where the artists involved are being punished for not fitting into the cookie cutter mold.

The Dark Knight Soundtrack is still available for $12.99 on Amazon, but Warner Bros music is also releasing a two-CD special edition (now available for preorder for $45.49 on Amazon), which includes four bonus remix tracks and an 40 page hardbound book.

Fuck.

[Ezee E]

That category really needs some rule changes.

[Morris Schæffer]

Fuck indeed! :sad:

[megladon8]

I'd say it's pretty much a given that it had the best musical score of the year, Oscar or not.

[Skitch]

That is retarded.

[D_Davis]

That is retarded.

No, that's Hollywood and the music publishing biz.

Oh wait, never mind you were right.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I'm racking my brain here... someone explain why it matters how many names are attached to a score. It says it's there to protect the artist, but I'm not figuring out how it could be a bad thing. Honest curiosity, because apparently I don't know enough to figure this out on my own.

[number8]

I'm racking my brain here... someone explain why it matters how many names are attached to a score. It says it's there to protect the artist, but I'm not figuring out how it could be a bad thing. Honest curiosity, because apparently I don't know enough to figure this out on my own.

Too many people. They don't really like to award collaborations.

[Ezee E]

Too many people. They don't really like to award collaborations.
Hence the 2-3 max limit of the producers that can be on the Best Picture card.

[Sycophant]

The rule number8 cites makes sense and I know I've heard better scores this year.

[Morris Schæffer]

Well, look at it this way. Now the Academy will have to compensate by awarding TDK the best picture Oscar.

All is well!

[Sycophant]

I just realized that I'm not only getting involved in a speculative Academy Awards discussion (which I loathe), but also another The Dark Knight discussion where everyone I'm talking to sees it as a foregone conclusion that the film and all its aspects were cinematic Jesus and the only reason humanity should have bothered to make it to 2008.

Eject.

[transmogrifier]

I just realized that I'm not only getting involved in a speculative Academy Awards discussion (which I loathe), but also another The Dark Knight discussion where everyone I'm talking to sees it as a foregone conclusion that the film and all its aspects were cinematic Jesus and the only reason humanity should have bothered to make it to 2008.

Eject.

:pritch:

[Mysterious Dude]

It's just the Oscars. I don't understand why people care about them.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Too many people. They don't really like to award collaborations.

But again, how is that protecting the artists?

[D_Davis]

But again, how is that protecting the artists?

Because every Oscar statue they give out lessens the value of every other Oscar statue by one Oscar statue's worth of awardiness.

[Grouchy]

It's just the Oscars. I don't understand why people care about them.
Yeah, pretty much this.

[number8]

But again, how is that protecting the artists?

It's not. Wats was quoting Peter Sciretta, and that line was just him speculating. Read again:


I’m sure there might be a lot more to it, and the rules are there to protect the artists involved...

There is no real reason for the rule, just like there's no real reason for the DGA insisting that a movie can't have two directors. It's a lot of cockblocking pettiness.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Bleh. Pathetic.

[Watashi]

I just realized that I'm not only getting involved in a speculative Academy Awards discussion (which I loathe), but also another The Dark Knight discussion where everyone I'm talking to sees it as a foregone conclusion that the film and all its aspects were cinematic Jesus and the only reason humanity should have bothered to make it to 2008.

Eject.
The Dark Knight is the Obama of films. It's going to win.

[Watashi]

The Dark Knight is the Obama of films. It's going to win.
Plus, no one here has taken that ridiculous hyperbole that The Dark Knight is a personal cinematic Jesus.

[Wryan]

I just realized that I'm not only getting involved in a speculative Academy Awards discussion (which I loathe), but also another The Dark Knight discussion where everyone I'm talking to sees it as a foregone conclusion that the film and all its aspects were cinematic Jesus and the only reason humanity should have bothered to make it to 2008.

Eject.

False. Everyone pretty much agreed that the Batvoice was too much this time.

Your move, Potsie.

[Qrazy]

False. Everyone pretty much agreed that the Batvoice was too much this time.

Your move, Potsie.

But if Jesus were a bat he would have spoken that way.

[Morris Schæffer]

It's just the Oscars. I don't understand why people care about them.

Is that any different from cheering for your favorite football team? And you know what? Like the Academy, referees drop the ball too sometimes resulting in an unfair win by the lesser team.

[MadMan]

I honestly don't even know if I'll watch the Oscars this year. But I didn't think I would last year, and yet there I was, in front of the TV. Bah.

Also I think Heath Ledger stands a better chance of being nominated/winning an Oscar than The Dark Knight does. But we shall see.

[Grouchy]

I missed the Oscars last year because I was watching the Futurama movies and drinking with friends.

I rule.

[megladon8]

Is that any different from cheering for your favorite football team? And you know what? Like the Academy, referees drop the ball too sometimes resulting in an unfair win by the lesser team.


You're forgetting that it's cool to hate the Oscars in a "fight the man, commercialism sucks" kind of way.

[Ivan Drago]

Ok, I'm just gonna say this right now to those who think that the Oscars will be meaningless if The Dark Knight wins or gets nominated for Best Picture: Rocky won Best Picture. Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars: A New Hope were nominated for BP. What's the big difference?

[Sycophant]

Ok, I'm just gonna say this right now to those who think that the Oscars will be meaningless if The Dark Knight wins or gets nominated for Best Picture: Rocky won Best Picture. Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars: A New Hope were nominated for BP. What's the big difference?
I don't think anyone's saying that a TDK nom will render the Oscars meaningless.

Most of us are just saying they're pretty much meaningless already. So I don't know who you're talking to.

[megladon8]

The Dark Knight being nominated for Best Picture seems like a lot more honorable of a cause than past contenders.

I don't know what the bitchin's about.

[Ivan Drago]

I don't think anyone's saying that a TDK nom will render the Oscars meaningless.

Most of us are just saying they're pretty much meaningless already. So I don't know who you're talking to.

Well there was someone who said that the Oscars should merge with the MTV Movie Awards if TDK wins or gets nominated. It might have been transmogrifer, but I'm not sure.

[transmogrifier]

Well there was someone who said that the Oscars should merge with the MTV Movie Awards if TDK wins or gets nominated. It might have been transmogrifer, but I'm not sure.

No, it wasn't me. I think I responded to whoever made that comment.

Anyway, the Oscars are merely an elaborate way of celebrity back-patting that for some reason normal people get fooled into thinking mean anything in the lead-up. I don't like The Dark Knight much, but the world's not going to end if it wins. Much like every Oscar since the beginning of time, people will end up shrugging their shoulders, forgetting they even cared, and continuing to like whatever movies they liked before the roomful of celebrities commenced their love-in.

[megladon8]

Is there really such thing as an awards show that changes peoples' opinions on movies?

I'd love to see this magical program.

[transmogrifier]

Probably no more or less common than movie award shows that see nominating films as an honorable causes.

[megladon8]

Probably no more or less common than movie award shows that see nominating films as an honorable causes.


You hate too many things.

Do you have ulcers?

[Watashi]

As much as we joke about it, an Oscar win/nom can do wonders for a budding actor or a seasoned veteran. He will be opened to way more many projects afterwards. Just look at someone like Ryan Gosling, Terrence Howard, or Forest Whitaker. Their public accessibility is wide open even for someone who has been around for so long like Whitaker.

Or they can just spiral down towards Oblivion and become Halle Barry or Cuba Gooding Jr.

[transmogrifier]

You hate too many things.

Do you have ulcers?

I'm remarkably stress-free, actually.

Genuinely liking things is soothing and doesn't need to be publicly voiced - you can just enjoy it and be at peace.

Things that suck, well, you can't let that slide. By going out and saying it sucks, you drain the pool of suckitude that you had dropped into, and feel better as as result.

It's all pretty simple. Never, ever experienced anything that may be a stress-related symptom. Long may it continue.

EDIT: I guess what I'm trying to say is that you should try to hate on things more in cyberspace, meg. It's liberating. There's no point in being even-handed on a movie messageboard, of all things. Save your humanity for things that matter, like real life.

[megladon8]

I'm remarkably stress-free, actually.

Genuinely liking things is soothing and doesn't need to be publicly voiced - you can just enjoy it and be at peace.

Things that suck, well, you can't let that slide. By going out and saying it sucks, you drain the pool of suckitude that you had dropped into, and feel better as as result.

It's all pretty simple. Never, ever experienced anything that may be a stress-related symptom. Long may it continue.


Well then good for you, and I hope things continue that way in your life. That's not sarcasm by the way, it's great you're able to life pretty stress-free.

I probably compensate for you. I stress over everything.

[transmogrifier]

Well then good for you, and I hope things continue that way in your life. That's not sarcasm by the way, it's great you're able to life pretty stress-free.

I probably compensate for you. I stress over everything.

See my advice above in the edit.

[megladon8]

See my advice above in the edit.


I sometimes feel like I hate on things too much.

I like a lot of stuff, honestly. And I try to find something to enjoy and take positively from every film I watch, book I read, game I play, etc.

I guess that's why some may say I'm a little too lax in my ratings.

I like enjoying lots of stuff.

[transmogrifier]

I sometimes feel like I hate on things too much.

I like a lot of stuff, honestly. And I try to find something to enjoy and take positively from every film I watch, book I read, game I play, etc.

I guess that's why some may say I'm a little too lax in my ratings.

I like enjoying lots of stuff.

Me too. But I tend to internalize what I like - I'm happy enough just liking it, without having to tell everyone about it. The things I dislike, well, that's different. I think it's better to use the internet to get things off your chest (without being personally abusive to anyone, naturally) and not stew about things. I'm way different in real life than I am on here - not nearly as blunt or antagonistic. And it works for me.

[megladon8]

Me too. But I tend to internalize what I like - I'm happy enough just liking it, without having to tell everyone about it. The things I dislike, well, that's different. I think it's better to use the internet to get things off your chest (without being personally abusive to anyone, naturally) and not stew about things. I'm way different in real life than I am on here - not nearly as blunt or antagonistic. And it works for me.


See I'm the exact opposite :)

I LOVE to gush over a movie.

I find it much more rewarding to write a positive review - where I can reflect on what I loved in a film, and go in-depth as to why I loved it - rather than a sarcastically toned, scathing review.

[number8]

Is there really such thing as an awards show that changes peoples' opinions on movies?

I'd love to see this magical program.

It's called the Academy Awards. Don't believe me? Ask the producers who rake mad chedda after a movie wins an Oscar because the DVD sales and rentals shoot through the roof.

[megladon8]

It's called the Academy Awards. Don't believe me? Ask the producers who rake mad chedda after a movie wins an Oscar because the DVD sales and rentals shoot through the roof.


That's not changing opinions, that's getting more people watching the movie.

I don't think anyone who hated Gladiator went out and bought it on DVD because it won Best Picture.

[number8]

Then I misunderstood you. Of course no one who hates a movie would automatically like it as soon as it win awards, but they would have more of a chance of giving it a second try to see if they missed something. Likewise, people who had no interest in the movie would go and seek it because of the Oscar win.

"That looks like utter crap. I will never see that movie as long as I'm breathing."
*6 months later*
"Wow, Seann William Scott got an Oscar for that? Maybe I should see it."

[Ezee E]

Then I misunderstood you. Of course no one who hates a movie would automatically like it as soon as it win awards, but they would have more of a chance of giving it a second try to see if they missed something. Likewise, people who had no interest in the movie would go and seek it because of the Oscar win.

"That looks like utter crap. I will never see that movie as long as I'm breathing."
*6 months later*
"Wow, Seann William Scott got an Oscar for that? Maybe I should see it."
Exactly.

Several people do this year after year, even if they typically hate movies that win Oscars.

"No Country For Old Men seemed strange, but there are guns in it, and it did win Best Picture. I liked The Departed, so I'll check it out."
"FUCK THAT ENDING! I swear that's the last time I watch anything that won at the Oscars."

Next year... "That beat the Dark Knight? I must see it!"

[Ezee E]

Love this FYC ad:

http://awardsdaily.com/FYC/2008/images/november20/darkknight4.jpg

[Amnesiac]

Yeah, that's nice.

[megladon8]

There's also this one...

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5425/67521556hp3.jpg

[Morris Schæffer]

An early review of the The Dark Knight blu-ray:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=743&show=review

There's some mumbo jumbo about the Imax aspect also somehow being really cool at home on a TV, but I don't know how that works.:confused:

[megladon8]

This would have been sweet as the Batpod...

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5319/61monsterbikeua9.jpg

[D_Davis]

There's also this one...




That is an awesome poster.

[megladon8]

That is an awesome poster.


I'm still anxious to hear what you think of this movie.

Part of me thinks you'll like it much more than Batman Begins, while the other part of me thinks you'll loathe it.

I have no idea.

[D_Davis]

I'll be watching it very soon, probably on Blu-ray.

Looking forward to it.

[Sxottlan]

Does anyone know the name of the song playing on the FYC site for this movie? It's a more mellow version of the main two note theme. Instead of really hitting that second note, it just kind of fades. I love it.

I just haven't heard it anywhere in the soundtrack.

[number8]

Does anyone know the name of the song playing on the FYC site for this movie? It's a more mellow version of the main two note theme. Instead of really hitting that second note, it just kind of fades. I love it.

Um, I think it's just the song being faded and then looped.

[Ezee E]

http://fanartexhibit.files.wordpress. com/2008/12/oscars.jpg

Someone built a site to try and campaign, it shows all the Oscar-ish/Dark Knight stuff if you're interested. darkcampaign.com

[Sycophant]

WTF.

[Russ]

Hilarious. The following is off-topic and has nothing to do with DK, but I just had to comment on the coincidence of the above poster and an episode of Arrested Development (from the 3rd season, which I just rewatched over the weekend):

Remember in the 1st episode of Season 3...George's identical brother, Oscar, is in jail and he and starts his website, "I'm Oscar...dot com?"

And then later in the 3rd season, next-to-last episode, where they rescue GOB from Iraq, they go to the Bluth house and find all the Saddam lookalikes. It's revealed that Saddam has a scar on his forehead. At the end of the episode, they show one of the lookalikes in jail and he's screaming, "I'm NO-SCAR". "..."Dot com."

http://209.85.48.10/2898/7/emo/roflmao.gif

God, I miss that show. Oh well, carry on.

[eternity]

It's going to win because of shit like this.

[dreamdead]

At least TDK has fallen from the IMDB Top Movies list down to #4, with Shawshank and the two Godfathers reclaiming their throne.

[Milky Joe]

Heath Ledger literally swallowed this movie whole. He should be nominated for (and probably win) Best Supporting Actor, but this Best Picture talk is just baloney if you ask me.

[Grouchy]

Now, that is fucking incredible.

I loved the movie and you all know I'm biased with Batman, but I'd not only be happy as a midget if it won Best Picture, I think it'd be fair. It still is the best film out of the 33 I've seen from this year, beating WALL-E and Speed Racer.

[Ezee E]

It's the first time I ever saw a FYC video. Ain't bad.

[Morris Schæffer]

Same here Grouchy. I'd be positively euphoric if TDK won best picture!!

[megladon8]

My copy of the DVD is arriving today.

Me > all of you.

[Scar]

My copy of the DVD is arriving today.

Me > all of you.

I'm getting it on Blu-Ray.

[megladon8]

I'm getting it on Blu-Ray.


Me too. But the player's coming for Christmas, as is my Blu-Ray copy.

[Scar]

Me too. But the player's coming for Christmas, as is my Blu-Ray copy.

Then why get it on DVD?