Quantum of Solace (James Bond 22)

[Morris Schæffer]

It seems that French actor Mathieu Amalric (Munich, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly) has confirmed rumours that he's going to play the villain in the Forster-helmed Bond flick.

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/images/bond22_amalric2.jpg

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_22_amalric_confirms.php3

I understand that Amalric might be up for a nomination for his work in The Diving Bell and the Butterfly so that's certainly encouraging news for Bond 22.

[Hugh_Grant]

I love Mathieu Almaric, so this is great news.

[Ezee E]

He annoys me in a way that I think he can be a great villain.

[MadMan]

Interesting choice as I've never heard of the guy. But I want to know who the next Bond chick will be and what the plot will be as well more so than who the villian is.

[number8]

Interesting choice as I've never heard of the guy. But I want to know who the next Bond chick will be and what the plot will be as well more so than who the villian is.

This is her (http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/casino-royale/news/bond-gets-his-girl.html).

[MadMan]

This is her (http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/casino-royale/news/bond-gets-his-girl.html).Thank you good sir. Goddamn I hope that ends up being her, provided she isn't annoying as an actress. Merely decent acting will be sufficient.

[megladon8]

"Model turned actress" is never a good sign in my books.

[Grouchy]

Merely decent acting will be sufficient.
Or sign language. Or grunting in morse code. More than sufficient.

Anyway, it's funny that they started with an actual actress and now they're going the model route.

[SpaceOddity]

This thread needs more DC pics.

*campaigns*

[megladon8]

Anyway, it's funny that they started with an actual actress and now they're going the model route.


A lot of the logic behind this movie makes no sense to me at all.

"Let's see. Both Casino Royale and Goldeneye were serious takes on the character. Few gadgets. Both helmed by Martin Campbell. They're considered by many to be two of the best Bond films of all time, and they're definitely two of the most successful...

I have an idea!!

For the next one, let's make it campier, with more gadgets, change the director, and get a model for the female lead! How could it possibly go wrong??"

[MadMan]

A lot of the logic behind this movie makes no sense to me at all.

"Let's see. Both Casino Royale and Goldeneye were serious takes on the character. Few gadgets. Both helmed by Martin Campbell. They're considered by many to be two of the best Bond films of all time, and they're definitely two of the most successful...

I have an idea!!

For the next one, let's make it campier, with more gadgets, change the director, and get a model for the female lead! How could it possibly go wrong??"I'm not worrying yet, and good Bond flicks in the past have featured chicks who if they weren't models were defiantly model material. And I like gadgets, so long as they aren't over used. I'm not sure if the film will be campy yet either as a trailer hasn't been out yet.

[megladon8]

I'm not worrying yet, and good Bond flicks in the past have featured chicks who if they weren't models were defiantly model material. And I like gadgets, so long as they aren't over used. I'm not sure if the film will be campy yet either as a trailer hasn't been out yet.


They said earlier this year that they were going to make the next one campier, and more like the Roger Moore flicks.

[Grouchy]

They said earlier this year that they were going to make the next one campier, and more like the Roger Moore flicks.
Seriously? That, well, sucks.

But the Martin Campbell bit wasn't by choice of the production team. I heard the guy just refuses to direct two Bond films in a row.

[megladon8]

Seriously? That, well, sucks.

But the Martin Campbell bit wasn't by choice of the production team. I heard the guy just refuses to direct two Bond films in a row.


Really? That's strange, I would have thought he'd jump at the opportunity. He seems born to direct these things.

Well, Marc Forster is really the least of my worries at this point.

[MadMan]

They said earlier this year that they were going to make the next one campier, and more like the Roger Moore flicks.I'm a Roger Moore fan so that doesn't bother me too much, provided we don't get something like Die Another Day or A View to a Kill.


Seriously? That, well, sucks.

But the Martin Campbell bit wasn't by choice of the production team. I heard the guy just refuses to direct two Bond films in a row.That's just flat out strange. You'd think the money would be more than enough to get him to change his mind.

[number8]

Campbell doesn't need the money. He got tons of offers since Casino Royale (he's supposedly directing a remake of The Birds). Bond doesn't exactly need a continuity, so I can imagine that he doesn't feel like he'd miss anything if he just do his next Bond film 3 or 4 films later.

[Grouchy]

Huh, I thought I'd read it in Wikipedia, but I discovered it was in the entry for Tomorrow Never Dies, not for the franchise reboot. It has sources, too:


Brosnan is aboard to reprise his starring role, but Goldeneye director Martin Campbell opted not to return and is now making Zorro. It appears the decision was Campbell's. "Martin just didn't want to do 2 Bond films in a row," says his agent, Martha Luttrell, at International Creative Management.

http://www.klast.net/bond/tndnews1.html#variety

Could very easily be bullshit, of course, but I don't know. Might be that he doesn't want to see his career confined to 007 movies.

[Morris Schæffer]

They said earlier this year that they were going to make the next one campier, and more like the Roger Moore flicks.

This has been denied by Craig on several occasions already. There would be more humour, but it would emerge naturally from the situation. Kinda like McClane yelling "No fucking shit lady! Do I sound like I'm ordering a fucking pizza?!"

[Morris Schæffer]

The main villain's henchman:

http://www.mania.com/56887.html

[MadMan]

The main villain's henchman:

http://www.mania.com/56887.htmlHuh another guy I've never heard of. The cast for this flick is shaping up to be interesting.


This has been denied by Craig on several occasions already. There would be more humour, but it would emerge naturally from the situation. Kinda like McClane yelling "No fucking shit lady! Do I sound like I'm ordering a fucking pizza?!"That's the kind of humor I enjoy in action movies...


Campbell doesn't need the money. He got tons of offers since Casino Royale (he's supposedly directing a remake of The Birds). Bond doesn't exactly need a continuity, so I can imagine that he doesn't feel like he'd miss anything if he just do his next Bond film 3 or 4 films later.I didn't know he was directing a remake of The Birds. I hope its him or at least someone decent.

[Grouchy]

I didn't know he was directing a remake of The Birds. I hope its him or at least someone decent.
Or that a mystery thundertbolt destroys the sets and the movie can't be made.

[MadMan]

Or that a mystery thundertbolt destroys the sets and the movie can't be made.I wouldn't mind seeing that happen :lol:

[number8]

Hmmm, Daniel Craig let slip on a TV program that the title is simply "007".

[EvilShoe]

Empire says this is (one of) the new Bond girl(s).
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/77344959.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1938DCDF9EF37AE BD73B6A879238DC86EAF284831B75F 48EF45
(on the right)

[megladon8]

Yes, it is officially official now that Gemma Arterton is the new Bond girl...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/megladon8/gemma.jpg

[MadMan]

She better be a good actress, because she's cute at best.

[lemon]

She better be a good actress, because she's cute at best.

Is being gorgeous a prerequisite of Bond Girls? Who cares if she is not "model hot"; I will watch porn if I want to get off from a movie.

[megladon8]

I think she is gorgeous.

Seriously...best Bond girl in a long, long time.

That's based solely on looks, of course. She could very well be stinky shit when it comes to acting.

[number8]

Is being gorgeous a prerequisite of Bond Girls? Who cares if she is not "model hot";

Have you never seen a Bond movie? I think they post a sign on the audition door that says "If you ain't model hot, you're playing Blofeld".

[number8]

In any case, she's playing an MI6 agent, not the typical Bond vixen (that role goes to that chick from Hitman).

I rounded up a cast & characters list (http://www.justpressplay.net/movies/casino-royale/news/heres-your-cast-for-the-next-bond-film.html) for those interested.

[lemon]

Have you never seen a Bond movie? I think they post a sign on the audition door that says "If you ain't model hot, you're playing Blofeld".

All of the previous Bond movies had lots of wacky gadgets. The most recent one didn't, and I thought it was the best of the bunch. Change is gooooood.

I just don't think the female lead being more averagely good looking instead of supermodel hot detracts from the authenticity or goodness of the movie. I can sort of see how a hardcore, old school, Bond fan could want to have another supermodel lead, 'cause Bond's "thing" is, well, banging supermodels.

[Lasse]

I think she is gorgeous.

Agreed. Wall, myabe not gorgeous, but she looks very pretty except that I don't like her hair in that picture... :frustrated:

[Morris Schæffer]

She looks more cute instead of vampy. Tomboy-ish in fact. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I dig. I dig.

[EvilShoe]

She's not the main bond girl, so does it even matter?

[SpaceOddity]

http://www.tbd.com/image/2623.jpg

*contributes to discussion* :D

[SpaceOddity]

Her looks are infinately superior to Eva Green's alien geometry.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4461/78357813gv7.jpg

*rests case*

[EvilShoe]

The main bond girl:
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/57644814.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA 92A64BEE1A062F92CAC1FF3FE21171 7AB081
Personally I prefer Arterton, but oh well.

[megladon8]

Her looks are infinately superior to Eva Green's alien geometry.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4461/78357813gv7.jpg

*rests case*


Yep, I completely agree!

I really don't find Eva Green attractive in the least...and on more than one occasion I've used the word "alien" to describe some of her features.

But this Gemma Arterton looks amazing.

[megladon8]

The main bond girl:
Personally I prefer Arterton, but oh well.


It's incredible how amazingly, painfully bad she was in Hitman.

And the fact that she's naked for nearly her entire role didn't help at all - that's how bad she was.

But that whole movie was beyond terrible.

[EvilShoe]

It's incredible how amazingly, painfully bad she was in Hitman.

And the fact that she's naked for nearly her entire role didn't help at all - that's how bad she was.

But that whole movie was beyond terrible.
Yeah, that's the buzz on her Hitman-performance.
Then again, even the usually reliable Olyphant apparently sucked in it.

Then again! He also sucked in Live Free or Die Hard.

I'm not sure I have a point.

I just feel they should've cast a real actress instead of a model.

[megladon8]

Yeah, that's the buzz on her Hitman-performance.
Then again, even the usually reliable Olyphant apparently sucked in it.

Then again! He also sucked in Live Free or Die Hard.

I'm not sure I have a point.

I just feel they should've cast a real actress instead of a model.


I don't think it was Olyphant's fault in either of these cases, though.

Seriously, the script for Live Free or Die Hard was hardly good, but his character is totally devoid of menace.

And I don't think Hitman actually had a script.

[Scar]

Eva Green is a honey. One helluva honey when she goes easy on the makeup, too.

[lovejuice]

Seriously, the script for Live Free or Die Hard was hardly good, but his character is totally devoid of menace.


i'll dispute that's the intension. he plays a wussie, a nerd who just happens to have guns and enough money to hire henchmen to do dirty work and a kung-fu chick to sleep with to booth his low self-esteem from time to time.

[megladon8]

i'll dispute that's the intension. he plays a wussie, a nerd who just happens to have guns and enough money to hire henchmen to do dirty work and a kung-fu chick to sleep with to booth his low self-esteem from time to time.


True...but I find this very un-Die Hard.

Up until this one, the bad guys were pretty badass.

And I'm really, really sick of all this Le Parkour crap in movies. And it's always that same blonde French guy.

[SpaceOddity]

The main bond girl:
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/57644814.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA 92A64BEE1A062F92CAC1FF3FE21171 7AB081
Personally I prefer Arterton, but oh well.

Ew. She's practically a syphilitic giraffe.

[Grouchy]

Her looks are infinately superior to Eva Green's alien geometry.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4461/78357813gv7.jpg

*rests case*
Hell no. I see ass like Anterton's everyday. I think I saw at least five chicks hotter than that yesterday nights.

But I didn't see anyone more sultry than Eva:

http://danong.com/data/2007/07/21/22075368_Eva-Green-1.jpg

[MadMan]

Okay Anterton is far better looking than the main Bond girl. If I recall there have been Bond movies in the past that featured not that hot Bond girls (The Spy Who Loves Me especially comes to mind). I'm now wondering what the film's title is going to be and what the plot will be as well now that I know who the villian and the girls are....


Is being gorgeous a prerequisite of Bond Girls? Who cares if she is not "model hot"; I will watch porn if I want to get off from a movie.Actually, yes. Yes it is. And no it has nothing to do with porn or getting off from a movie :P

[megladon8]

Gemma Arterton makes my pee-pee feel funny.

[Lasse]

Gemma Arterton makes my pee-pee feel funny.

What, like Eddie Izzard funny? Or Carrot Top funny?

[SpaceOddity]

I see ass like Anterton's everyday. I think I saw at least five chicks hotter than that yesterday nights.

But I didn't see anyone more sultry than Eva

http://danong.com/data/2007/07/21/22075368_Eva-Green-1.jpg

She looks consumptive. Try a sanatorium circa 1900.

*loans Tardis*

[Skitch]

Eva is super hot.

I think that Olga chick is smokin' too...so hot in fact, I have no idea of anything that happened in Hitman. Srsly.

[MadMan]

She looks consumptive. Try a sanatorium circa 1900.

*loans Tardis*Once again your just jealous that she got to hold Craig in her arms :P

Eva is hot. Indeed.

[Dukefrukem]

request title change: "Quantum of Solace"

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/24/movies.bondfilm.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

[Morris Schæffer]

What an odd title. I'm sure I'll warm to it.

[megladon8]

It doesn't sound at all like a Bond movie.

It's just kind of...odd.

I'm sure there'll be some sort of explanation/reasoning.

[number8]

That's because the original short story was an atypical Bond story that wasn't even about Bond.

[MadMan]

That's because the original short story was an atypical Bond story that wasn't even about Bond.Huh, really? I keep forgetting that the series is grounded in actual books.


request title change: "Quantum of Solace"

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/24/movies.bondfilm.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryviewTha t's a bit of mouthful heh.

[Skitch]

I can't wait to hear them incorporate that title into a song. Good luck!

[number8]

They didn't with Casino Royale.

[D_Davis]

James Bond: The Least Possible Amount of Comfort During a Time of Disappointment

[Dukefrukem]

change the thread title!...please :)

[transmogrifier]

I really don't find Eva Green attractive in the least...and on more than one occasion I've used the word "alien" to describe some of her features.

That's one sexy alien, then. ET she ain't.

[SpaceOddity]

DC is sporting Hitler hair.
*laments*

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sxA2FZANE2o

Although, I possessed a Hitler haircut as a child, so maybe it's destiny signalling to me. ;)

[Sxottlan]

An unusual title. I love it!

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=606705

Tons of press photos.

Sorry about the site. :P

[SpaceOddity]

DC - "I'm not going to put them trunks on ever again."

*screams*

[Grouchy]

That's because the original short story was an atypical Bond story that wasn't even about Bond.
Yeah, it's a story where 007 basically just listens to a story a friend tells him about a couple's unusual relationship. I was convinced they were gonna call the movie Risico and somewhat base it on that short story, which is actually about spy stuff. This is unexpected.

[megladon8]

I have actually never read this Bond story - I feel ashamed, as I'm the resident Bond-ofile.

What book is it in?

[Grouchy]

I have actually never read this Bond story - I feel ashamed, as I'm the resident Bond-ofile.

What book is it in?
For your Eyes Only.

[number8]

They can't use "Risico" and do that hidden 007 in the logo thing. :P

[Morris Schæffer]

They can't use "Risico" and do that hidden 007 in the logo thing. :P

Yeah, it does kinda feel like the only reason they've chosen that title is to be able to do that thing with the zero's. :)

RISICOOOOOOOO

[Grouchy]

They can't use "Risico" and do that hidden 007 in the logo thing. :P
Laugh it up, pilgrim, but I don't think you're half off base there.

[number8]

The rumored title, "Property of a Lady" could have done it also.

[Morris Schæffer]

It would appear that Gemma Anterton has mouthed off about a scene she and Craig shot inside a honeymoon suite. Could Bond get married again? Anyway, take with a grain of salt. Or two. Probably.

[Scar]

It would appear that Gemma Anterton has mouthed off about a scene she and Craig shot inside a honeymoon suite. Could Bond get married again? Anyway, take with a grain of salt. Or two. Probably.

Considering how Casino Royale ended, I highly doubt it.

[number8]

Considering how Casino Royale ended, I highly doubt it.

It's totally going to be Bond's further descent into misogyny. He's gonna marry her, deflower her on their honeymoon, then leave. :P

[Scar]

It's totally going to be Bond's further descent into misogyny. He's gonna marry her, deflower her on their honeymoon, then leave. :P


http://bp2.blogger.com/_wGeH01XnOYo/RrD-zB6MXVI/AAAAAAAAAJc/vpy8suvH5fs/s320/damn06.jpg

[number8]

Racist!

[MadMan]

It's totally going to be Bond's further descent into misogyny. He's gonna marry her, deflower her on their honeymoon, then leave. :P:lol:

Or she'll get killed like his wife in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. But Bloomfield doesn't appear to be in the picture in terms of the next line of Bond films. I was hoping that the guy with the cat at the end of Casino Royale would actually turn out to be working for SPECTRE. They should really bring back those guys because they and Bloomfield were the ultimate James Bond nemesis.

[Wryan]

Godawful Name.

Sounds like Carl Sagan is ghostwriting the screenplay.

Amy Winehouse may sing theme.

[Morris Schæffer]

I saw Casino Royale again a few days ago. It's so funny when Bond is frolicking with Caterina Mureno, picks up the phone, orders champagne and kaviar, tells the guy on the other hand "No, for one" and gets the hell out of there.:lol:

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/newjamesbondposter.jpg

[MadMan]

Godawful Name.

Sounds like Carl Sagan is ghostwriting the screenplay.

Amy Winehouse may sing theme.Luckily for us all Winehouse is in rehab. The title does really suck though-hell I can't even remember it until I enter this thread and scroll through the last two pages to find it.

PS: I don't like that poster. I just don't.

[lovejuice]

the poster is cool, but doesn't make much sense scientifically. why the hell does bond's shadow pointing toward the source of light? :frustrated:

[KK2.0]

the poster is cool, but doesn't make much sense scientifically. why the hell does bond's shadow pointing toward the source of light? :frustrated:

nerd


repped

[lovejuice]

nerd


really i am. i went to a flamenco dance show last night, and during the whole performance i watched the shadow of those dancers, trying to determine if there's some optical trick that this freak of nature can happen.

there isn't. :cry::cool::P

[Wryan]

the poster is cool, but doesn't make much sense scientifically. why the hell does bond's shadow pointing toward the source of light? :frustrated:

Only one source of light? You're limiting yourself. :)

[megladon8]

Gemma Arterton's pretty and all, but I'm getting a little worried about whether or not she'll be very believable in the whole "skilled government agent" role.

When I mentioned this to someone, they said "well, it's Bond, so only beauty is required" - but I kind of thought they were trying to move away from that "stereotype" with the Craig films. Eva Green was a smart, strong, competent woman in Casino Royale.

I just don't see Gemma Arterton being very convincing as someone who can take care of herself.

Though maybe there's a side of her we haven't seen yet.

[megladon8]

I don't know how they did it, but somehow they made Gemma Arterton unattractive in this movie...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/megladon8/gemma-1.jpg

[MadMan]

First off I prefer my women with their hair down. Second, yeesh regarding that photo.

[Lasse]

I don't know how they did it, but somehow they made Gemma Arterton unattractive in this movie...

Not quite. :twisted:

[Morris Schæffer]

Haven't seen it posted yet, but Amy Winehouse is apparently going to sing the title song. Good or bad?

[megladon8]

Haven't seen it posted yet, but Amy Winehouse is apparently going to sing the title song. Good or bad?


She's got a good voice, but I hate her music.

And I am sick to death of hearing about her and her coke-head ways.

I'm hoping it'll just be a good song that captures her voice well, and is very "Bond-ish"...like the theme for Casino Royale, which was great. Though I have nothing against Chris Cornell.

[[ETM]]

LOLZ. Apparently, a stunt driver crashed the only available Aston Martin DBS while bringing it to the set... got carried away pretending to be in her Majesty's Secret Service? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7356916.stm

[Morris Schæffer]

What a waste.

[Grouchy]

That car must cost, like, half or more the budget of the average Hollywood movie.

I like Amy Winehouse, it's just that since the Grammy she's been showing up too much and publicity is annoying. She's a helluva singer, much better than Cornell.

[Dukefrukem]

Speaking of cost, its now the 2nd most expensive movie ever

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/budgets.php

[Kurosawa Fan]

Speaking of cost, its now the 2nd most expensive movie ever

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/budgets.php

Ridiculous.

[Sycophant]

Wow. The last one was made for less than half of that. Crizzazy.

[lovejuice]

His Dark Materials: The Golden Compass
budget $205,000,000
us gross $70,083,519
:lol::lol::lol:

[EyesWideOpen]

His Dark Materials: The Golden Compass
budget $205,000,000
us gross $70,083,519
:lol::lol::lol:


Pretty irrevelant especially when the worldwide gross was double the budget. Money is money.

[Grouchy]

Pretty irrevelant especially when the worldwide gross was double the budget. Money is money.
Yeah, between international releases, DVD sales and the TV rights no Hollywood movie actually loses money.

[Ezee E]

Yeah, between international releases, DVD sales and the TV rights no Hollywood movie actually loses money.
Not true at all.

[Grouchy]

Not true at all.
It's true.

Because I say so.

[Sven]

In David Mamet's book Bambi v. Godzilla, he emphasizes the point that movies do not lose money. That with enough time and rights distributions, etc, all pictures make a profit. The immediacy of their return is what is important to the studios. I'm sure there are a few exceptions, and I've never been one to take Mamet at his word, but that book certainly is incredible.

[Dukefrukem]

what could possible cost so much in a Bond film??? price of gas? :P

[Grouchy]

what could possible cost so much in a Bond film??? price of gas? :P
...

Speechless, you've left me.

[Ezee E]

...

Speechless, you've left me.
It's best to not even respond at this point.

[lovejuice]

Pretty irrevelant especially when the worldwide gross was double the budget. Money is money.

i might be wrong, but isn't golden compass the main reason new line is sold to warner? i believe, the problem with new line's worldwide gross is the studio not having its own distributors in foregin countries. they sell the right and don't actually get that much money as shown in the stat.

[Sycophant]

Yeah. I don't have enough digits on which to count the ways New Line botched The Golden Compass.

[Dukefrukem]

...

Speechless, you've left me.




It's best to not even respond at this point.

What's your problem with me?

[Grouchy]

What's your problem with me?
Well, I suppose you're addressing this to Ezee, but my problem is not personal, it's just that... Location shooting? Paycheck for all the stars involved? Tremendous stuntwork cordination? Cars and authentic vehicles and specialists who can drive the hell out of them? Huge sets?

Everything in the James Bond franchise has always been uber-expensive. All of the stuff I mentioned costs a lot more than a fucking CGI monster.

[Dukefrukem]

Well, I suppose you're addressing this to Ezee, but my problem is not personal, it's just that... Location shooting? Paycheck for all the stars involved? Tremendous stuntwork cordination? Cars and authentic vehicles and specialists who can drive the hell out of them? Huge sets?

Everything in the James Bond franchise has always been uber-expensive. All of the stuff I mentioned costs a lot more than a fucking CGI monster.

Well that's what I was asking. Why was my question so ridiculous? I mean $230+ mil with very little special effects (I'm assuming) is epic.

[Grouchy]

Well that's what I was asking. Why was my question so ridiculous? I mean $230+ mil with very little special effects (I'm assuming) is epic.
Very little special effects?

I think you're assuming wrong. True, Casino Royale was somehow more down-to-earth than the Brosnan films, but I'm betting Quantum's on the road to changing that.

[Dukefrukem]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1025527/Curse-Bond-strikes-Daniel-Craig-slices-tip-finger-set.html

wow... that really sucks..

[Grouchy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1025527/Curse-Bond-strikes-Daniel-Craig-slices-tip-finger-set.html

wow... that really sucks..
Wow.

Badass James Bond with 9 fingers.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7B4tQ5rNTE&NR=1

Early footage. Promising!
Teaser on monday!

[MadMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7B4tQ5rNTE&NR=1

Early footage. Promising!
Teaser on monday!Awesome. I'll have to watch that on my laptop (as my desktop computer needs new software to run YouTube for some strange reason) but I'm more excited about the teaser on Monday.

[Watashi]

Trailer is up. (http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2008/quantumofsolace_026922/tefam_trlr_01_480p_dl.mov)

Can we change the title of this thread now?

[Morris Schæffer]

Looks great!

[Wryan]

Trailer is up. (http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2008/quantumofsolace_026922/tefam_trlr_01_480p_dl.mov)

Can we change the title of this thread now?

Can we, er, also change the name of this movie now?

I, er, also approve of the manner in which this picture is shaping up.

/vote Quimby

[Watashi]

Seriously mods.... so lazy.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I'm uninspired by what appears to be the lazy, Bond clashes with M subplot again. The title stays as far as I'm concerned. It's more appropriate for the lack of imagination they've used.

[Raiders]

I'm uninspired by what appears to be the lazy, Bond clashes with M subplot again. The title stays as far as I'm concerned. It's more appropriate for the lack of imagination they've used.

:lol:

I felt like calling the thread Quantum of Solace and Wealth of Redundancy.

[Sxottlan]

I'm trying to resist watching it since it'll be in front of Hancock. I just don't know when I'll see that movie.

[Morris Schæffer]

I'm uninspired by what appears to be the lazy, Bond clashes with M subplot again. The title stays as far as I'm concerned. It's more appropriate for the lack of imagination they've used.

It's a direct continuation of Casino Royale so in this case, if certain aspects carry over, it is entirely warranted. Doesn't mean you have to like it.

[Spinal]

That's the title? Really? How obnoxious.

[Ezee E]

Bond has had a fair share of bad titles.

But who really wants to speak in a conversation and say, "Dude, Quantum of Solace is roxxors!"

[Watashi]

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9237/bond22quantumofsolacelomo4.gif

I don't really have a problem with the title.

I mean, can you imagine if the title "Octopussy" came out today?

[Kurosawa Fan]

It's a direct continuation of Casino Royale so in this case, if certain aspects carry over, it is entirely warranted. Doesn't mean you have to like it.

That's good, because I don't. :P

I understand the purpose, but they could have just as easily skipped forward a bit to where the kinks between 007 and M have been fairly ironed out. This feels like recycling.

[Sycophant]

I mean, can you imagine if the title "Octopussy" came out today?
Internet sensation?

[DavidSeven]

Why don't they just call it The Bond Supremacy?

<--realizes the Bourne movies imitated first.

[Sxottlan]

So what would people rather have? Small Measure of Comfort?

[Dukefrukem]

holy shit that looks awesome.....................

[Morris Schæffer]

That's the title? Really? How obnoxious.

Well:


Ian Fleming’s Quantum of Solace is the strangest of all his James Bond stories. In it, Bond is merely a minor character. In place of the traditional Bond fare of spying, violence, women and dry martinis, Fleming served up a profound reflection on longing, marriage, society and passion. The “quantum of solace” to which the title refers is, bizarrely, a mathematical measurement of love.
The story, first published in Modern Woman magazine in 1959, has Bond sent to the Caribbean to sabotage a ship running guns to Castro’s army (an assignment that he takes on reluctantly because he has some sympathy with the Cuban rebels).

In the Bahamas he attends a dull dinner party at the Governor’s Mansion, where the elderly governor tells him a story about a man named Masters who married an air hostess. The marriage started well but soon the wife began a torrid and very public affair with the son of a wealthy island family.

It is at this point that the governor explains his theory: the quantum of solace, he says, is a precise figure defining the comfort, humanity and fellow feeling required between two people for love to survive. If the quantum of solace is nil, then love is dead.

Bond, who understands the limits of love, catches the governor’s meaning at once. When mutual solace falls below a certain point, 007 reflects, “you’ve got to get away to save yourself . . . when the other person not only makes you feel totally insecure, but actually seems to want to destroy you”.

The governor continues his story, describing how Masters left his faithless wife for six months. When he returned she wanted to go back to him. He treated her icily, even dividing their house in half so that they did not need to speak to each another. The quantum of solace had been reduced to nothing.

Quantam of Solace was Fleming’s attempt to write a more serious story, in the manner of Somerset Maugham. But it was also a reflection on his own turbulent marriage, which was troubled by infidelity and periodic coldness.

Fleming’s tale is a brooding study of the emotional realities of colonial life and takes place in one building; not much is likely to be reproduced in the new Bond film. Yet the original does offer flashes of the lighter Bond, including its opening line, in which one of Bond’s less well-known tastes is revealed: “James Bond said, ‘I’ve always thought that if I ever married I would marry an air hostess’.”

Yes, that does sound more weighty than the actual movie will ever live up to, but they didn't just pull this title out of their ass either.:)

EDIT: Surprised Meg hasn't posted in this thread yet.

[Raiders]

How can a quantum equal nothing?

[Spinal]

I don't see how that makes the title any better. What's obnoxious about it is its self-seriousness.

[Raiders]

Also there is the fact that the film is only cribbing the title and not the storyline. Therefore making the title even worse.

[Spinal]

I'm looking forward to the Pirates of the Caribbean re-boot in 15 years with Josh Hartnett playing a dark, brooding, alcoholic Jack Sparrow.

Pirates of the Caribbean: Quantum of Rum ...

[Grouchy]

Also there is the fact that the film is only cribbing the title and not the storyline. Therefore making the title even worse.
... which has been a fixture of a lot of 007 movies. The Spy Who Loved Me and A View to a Kill are also "adaptations" in name only.

Nothing bothers me about the title, actually. Perhaps I'm more used to it, though, having read the short story.

[Raiders]

... which has been a fixture of a lot of 007 movies. The Spy Who Loved Me and A View to a Kill are also "adaptations" in name only.

Yes, but those names sound good for a Bond film. They are kind of cheesy and sound like something for a good spy/action film. This one does not. I mean, to me, it sounds better as a brainy sci-fi film.

[Grouchy]

Yes, but those names sound good for a Bond film. They are kind of cheesy and sound like something for a good spy/action film. This one does not. I mean, to me, it sounds better as a brainy sci-fi film.
True, but then again it comes from a story that's, at heart, a psychological drama. So, go figure.

I'm guessing they're re-applying the meaning to Bond's revenge path and increasing cynicism, until he can find, eh, solace. Heh. Regardless of the title, that trailer looks promising. You agree?

[Lasse]

Jesper Christensen! Yes!

[number8]

I don't know what the deal is. It sounds like a Bond title to me.

I don't really associate the word Quantum to Quantum Physics, so it doesn't sound like a brainy sci-fi title at all.

[Raiders]

I don't know what the deal is. It sounds like a Bond title to me.

I don't really associate the word Quantum to Quantum Physics, so it doesn't sound like a brainy sci-fi title at all.

Dr. No... From Russia with Love... Thunderball... Octopussy... Live and Let Die... The World is Not Enough... Quantum of Solace.

One of these is not like the other.

[Dukefrukem]

Dr. No... From Russia with Love... Thunderball... Octopussy... Live and Let Die... The World is Not Enough... Quantum of Solace.

One of these is not like the other.

Meh, i suppose. When it was first announced I thought it didn't really fit but when you put it up these other titles, it def. stands out. Goldeneye, World is Not Enough, Tomorrow Never Dies....

[Spinal]

It's a better title than James Bond 22. I'll give you that much.

[Morris Schæffer]

Dr. No... From Russia with Love... Thunderball... Octopussy... Live and Let Die... The World is Not Enough... Quantum of Solace.

One of these is not like the other.

And that's encouraging. Much better than "Tomorrow dies so the day after yesterday is enough to survive another week."

Ok, so I'm in the middle of a BBQ and not quite sober.

[Ezee E]

Quantum of Solace would fit in just fine with Star Trek XII: The Quantum of Solace.

[Yxklyx]

Quantum of Solace would fit in just fine with Star Trek XII: The Quantum of Solace.

People will just call it the new Bond film and be done with it.

[megladon8]

People will just call it the new Bond film and be done with it.


Yep.

I rarely use the actual movie titles when I go see movies, because the people who work at my local theatre are pretty thick-headed.

So I'll say "two for Batman", "two for Bond", "two for Star Trek", or whatever.

[Sycophant]

Yep.

I rarely use the actual movie titles when I go see movies, because the people who work at my local theatre are pretty thick-headed.

So I'll say "two for Batman", "two for Bond", "two for Star Trek", or whatever.
Sucks for you. When I accurately describe the title of a movie to my local theatre's employees, they let me in free and occasionally throw in sexual favors.

[megladon8]

Sucks for you. When I accurately describe the title of a movie to my local theatre's employees, they let me in free and occasionally throw in sexual favors.


I've been given the wrong tickets more than once.

It's especially a pain because once it happened and I didn't look at the ticket, just showed it to the counter and walked into the theatre. I was going to Casino Royale but they gave me a ticket for some kids' movie.

Anyways, the theatre was absolutely packed, every seat taken, and a couple of people came in and were very angry because they bought tickets but there were no seats.

So one of the theatre-lackeys had to check everyone's tickets, and when they came to my friends and I, they were going to kick us out because they thought we had snuck in.

It was all resolved quickly, but still, it was a pain in the arse.

[Morris Schæffer]

"Jack White and Alicia Keys have recorded the theme song for the 22nd James Bond film “Quantum of Solace.” “Another Way to Die,” written and produced by White, is the first duet in Bond soundtrack history.
White follows Chris Cornell who was the first male solo rock artist to perform a Bond theme. Over the 22 films, four rock bands have done themes (Paul McCartney & Wings, Duran Duran, Garbage and a-Ha) but only one woman rocker, Sheryl Crow, has a Bond credit. Shirley Bassey has recorded the most Bond themes, three.
J Records will release the soundtrack on Oct. 28. David Arnold will again compose the score, making it his fifth Bond project."

[Fezzik]

Spoilers ahead...they're already working on Bond 23.

They're counting on the success of Quantum of Solace despite its odd title, and have even gone ahead and commissioned a teaser poster.

http://home.comcast.net/~kuelthador/astley.jpg

[Rowland]

I finally caught the trailer for this, and it looks fucking awesome. Just had to say it.

[Sxottlan]

Spoilers ahead...they're already working on Bond 23.

They're counting on the success of Quantum of Solace despite its odd title, and have even gone ahead and commissioned a teaser poster.

http://home.comcast.net/~kuelthador/astley.jpg

:lol:

"Here's a song by a gay guy."

[Morris Schæffer]

Tons of new pics:

http://www.dvd-forum.at/2390/news_kino.htm

[Watashi]

New Mind-Blowingly Awesome Trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809961074/video/9655524)

[Lasse]

I've never been a Bond fan, but this trailer looks like fun and a half. I'll rent it. :twisted:

[Skitch]

New Mind-Blowingly Awesome Trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809961074/video/9655524)

Sweet mother mary and joseph!

[number8]

YESSS. YESSSSSSSSSSSS.

That looks switchin' mothersuckin awesome.

[Sven]

That CG fall made me cry tears of sadness. I thought the whole idea was to get AWAY from that. Oh well.

[MadMan]

That trailer makes me wish that this movie was coming out now. I don't want to wait two more months.

[Scar]

Fuck. YES.

Extended car chase with the DBS? Thank the Maker!

[Watashi]

That CG fall made me cry tears of sadness. I thought the whole idea was to get AWAY from that. Oh well.
CG or no CG, it still looked damn cool.

[transmogrifier]

Hot Bond girl a go-go.

I'm there, though Forster is usually terrible.

[transmogrifier]

That CG fall made me cry tears of sadness. I thought the whole idea was to get AWAY from that. Oh well.

I don't get the knee-jerk reaction of "CGI bad". It is what it is, and it all relies on the movie around it.

[Sven]

I don't get the knee-jerk reaction of "CGI bad". It is what it is, and it all relies on the movie around it.

I mostly agree with you. I liked the third Terminator film, so my claiming anything blanket-like about CG in a negative way would be total lameness. If you'll notice my second sentence there, qualifying what I perceived (and what the makers of the first film were claiming) to be a key draw in the series's resurrection, you will see that my response was an utterance of dismay at the potential for the film (and the new series, by proxy) to be compromised.

Did the CG not seem out of place to you in the trailer? Everything else about it was all physical and practical, with an admirable consistency of reality, given its nature as a spy adventure. Then we're given the awkward, cartoony shot of them through a glass rooftop that appears to defy physical possibility. The moment of shattering doesn't give appropriately, the bodies falling too fluidly, the texture of the debris too animated.

[transmogrifier]

I mostly agree with you. I liked the third Terminator film, so my claiming anything blanket-like about CG in a negative way would be total lameness. If you'll notice my second sentence there, qualifying what I perceived (and what the makers of the first film were claiming) to be a key draw in the series's resurrection, you will see that my response was an utterance of dismay at the potential for the film (and the new series, by proxy) to be compromised.

Did the CG not seem out of place to you in the trailer? Everything else about it was all physical and practical, with an admirable consistency of reality, given its nature as a spy adventure. Then we're given the awkward, cartoony shot of them through a glass rooftop that appears to defy physical possibility. The moment of shattering doesn't give appropriately, the bodies falling too fluidly, the texture of the debris too animated.

To tell you the truth, I don't really care. If the movie is working in terms of its story, atmosphere and construction, it could become a rotoscoped animation sequence and I wouldn't blink an eye.

[Sven]

To tell you the truth, I don't really care. If the movie is working in terms of its story, atmosphere and construction, it could become a rotoscoped animation sequence and I wouldn't blink an eye.

Interesting.

[Watashi]

I agree with trans. The scene in the trailer was a bit iffy in the realism department, but I didn't jump out of my chair and go "OMG LOOKS SOO CGI". If everything around the film is good, some spotty CGI won't ruin the mood.

[Sven]

I agree with trans. The scene in the trailer was a bit iffy in the realism department, but I didn't jump out of my chair and go "OMG LOOKS SOO CGI". If everything around the film is good, some spotty CGI won't ruin the mood.

I guess it depends on what it is that builds a mood for the individual viewer and how they've come to watch movies the way they do. And the amount of importance they put on unity of vision and/or execution. If all of a sudden in broke out into rotoscope animation, I wouldn't be able to keep from asking myself: Why? More frequently than not, I've found that the answer for films in this day and age is either "Convenience" or "Neato". Both reasons have merit, but again, relating it back to questions of mood and unity, the whole affair becomes highly questionable. Coupled (or tripled?) with artistic accomplishment and I can only see my ambivalence (under the weight of more and more questions) growing exponentially.

[Winston*]

I think more self-serious action movies should break out into random bouts of rotoscoped animation.

[megladon8]

This looks great!

[Ezee E]

I think more self-serious action movies should break out into random bouts of rotoscoped animation.
Revolver

[Winston*]

Revolver

Hah, really? That would almost make me want to see it if I wasn't so sure it'd be horrible.

[megladon8]

I don't think I's apply the words "self serious" to anything Guy Ritchie has done.

[Ezee E]

Hah, really? That would almost make me want to see it if I wasn't so sure it'd be horrible.
It comes out of nowhere. Must've been part of their "philosophy" or something. Too bad it was complete garbage.

[Morris Schæffer]

If The Dark Knight hadn't been released this year, Bond's next outing would be the movie of the year for me. This can't miss. It looks so awesome.

Don't you agree Spinal? :lol:;)

[Raiders]

Revolver was terrific.

[Wryan]

Looks good. I liked CR a lot.

[Teh Sausage]

Revolver was astoundingly horrible.

[Watashi]

Here's the theme song "Another Way to Die" by Jack White and Alicia Keys. (http://www.archivo007.com/audio/awd.wav)

[Winston*]

Annoying.

[number8]

I like it a lot.

[Ezee E]

I like it a lot.
Same.

[Dukefrukem]

I like it.

[MadMan]

Whoa that is surprisingly solid. Kind of reminded me of the more pop song sounding Bond theme songs, only it was better than most of those (I don't think any of the theme songs for the Brosman Bonds were all that good).

Anyways the best Bond theme song ever is Live and Let Die by Paul McCartney and Wings. Followed by the ones for Casino Royale, Goldfinger, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and surprisingly A View to a Kill (even though that movie is the second worst Bond).

[Morris Schæffer]

Cornell's You Know My Name has really grown on me, particularly how it starts with dadum dadum....although it's a motif that returns all throughout the movie. As for the Brosnan songs, Goldeneye was dull and lifeless, Die Another Day was excruciating, Tomorrow Never Dies was acceptable and The World is Not Enough perhaps the best of them, but still decidedly average.

As for the new song, I just don't know. Frankly, I'm going with appalling listening to it on mediaplayer. Is it a complete version? I doubt it.

[Scar]

Jack White?

To say I'm hesitant to listen to it is an understatement.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Jack White?

To say I'm hesitant to listen to it is an understatement.

The link is dead anyway, so put your mind at ease. :)

[number8]

Jack White's lameness is trumped by Alicia Keys' awesomeness.

[MadMan]

Jack White's lameness is trumped by Alicia Keys' awesomeness.I think those should be switched around.

[number8]

I think those should be switched around.

Like your sexuality.

[MadMan]

Like your sexuality.Its not my fault your wrong :P

[Scar]

Its not my fault your wrong :P

No, you are wrong.

[Qrazy]

No, you are wrong.

No, he's right.

[Morris Schæffer]

No, he's right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Lightstorm/TopXXfunniest/Various/Arnie_commando01.jpg

I just wanted to post that.

[Scar]

No, he's right.

Better check his post more closely....

[MadMan]

Jack White is awesome. Alicia Keyes, aside from being hot, isn't. I thought this was fairly obvious. While both have talent, one uses it properly/doesn't make shitty pop music.

[Watashi]

If you think Alicia Keys makes shitty pop music, then you haven't heard anything from Alicia Keys.

[number8]

While both have talent, one uses it properly/doesn't make shitty pop music.

Yeah, Alicia Keys. What kind of music do you think The White Stripes is? :lol:

[Qrazy]

Only on match cut.

[Scar]

Yeah, Alicia Keys. What kind of music do you think The White Stripes is? :lol:

Shit that makes my ears bleed.

[MadMan]

Yeah, Alicia Keys. What kind of music do you think The White Stripes is? :lol:Um, rock? Duh? :P Although they are a popular act, so I guess one could considering them to be pop music. There's good and bad pop music.


If you think Alicia Keys makes shitty pop music, then you haven't heard anything from Alicia Keys.I've heard enough. And yes I didn't think any of it was good.

PS: Only online have I actually met fans of Alicia Keys. Wow. I knew they existed, but I didn't expect to meet any of them here.

[number8]

Um, rock?

Rock music is crying.

[MadMan]

What's wrong with the White Stripes? They aren't a great band by any means, but I enjoy their music.

[Ezee E]

I guess I'll be the only one here that really likes The White Stripes AND Alicia Keys.

The song is good too.

[transmogrifier]

I like The White Stripes plenty, and never consciously listened to Keyes. What do I win?

[Qrazy]

I like The White Stripes plenty, and never consciously listened to Keyes. What do I win?

A sanity award.

[Morris Schæffer]

Latest Bond the most violent ever according to The Sun.


Daniel Craig’s second outing as the world’s most famous secret agent is something you won’t forget in a hurry.


The actor transformed suave Bond into a gritty killing machine in 2006 hit Casino Royale and here the violence is ramped up to Rambo proportions.


The Sneak would like to give you a figure on the body count . . . but it was impossible to keep score.


The stunts look dangerous for good reason — they are.


The predominant colour here, though, isn’t environmental green — it’s blood red.


More appropriate titles might have been A View To A Killing Spree or Triggerfinger.

[Scar]

Sweet....

[number8]

Sweet....

It's The Sun. They most likely haven't even seen the film.

[Scar]

It's The Sun. They most likely haven't even seen the film.

Well, at least there's gonna be a decent chase with the DBS this time.

[Wryan]

"The predominant colour here, though, isn’t environmental green — it’s blood red."

Relevance? The green part...

[Qrazy]

"The predominant colour here, though, isn’t environmental green — it’s blood red."

Relevance? The green part...

All other Bond films use a green color palette and are concerned with the environment? Duh.

[Sxottlan]

First review by Variety (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117938800.html?categoryid=3 1&cs=1).

Shortest film in the franchise, eh? Hmm.

[SirNewt]

First review by Variety (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117938800.html?categoryid=3 1&cs=1).


I don't really like the way this is sounding.

[Sxottlan]

I don't really like the way this is sounding.

Nick Davis liked it, albeit with a reservation or two (http://www.nicksflickpicks.com/qsolace.html).

[Saya]

http://i35.tinypic.com/dpk7ww.jpg

[MadMan]

To me this film is practically critic proof. I'm a die hard, long time fan of the Bond series and thus I will go see it no matter what. I highly doubt its as bad as say, Die Another Day or any of the other mediocre entries in the series. If anything I think it looks pretty sweet.

[Teh Sausage]

How on earth did they make a 106 minute movie and it still feels as overlong as the others?

[KK2.0]

http://i35.tinypic.com/dpk7ww.jpg

:eek:

[Morris Schæffer]

I just got back from a double bill of Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace and would you believe that, after five viewings (theatrical+DVD), the former was still the more memorable movie of the evening?

The plot was murky and inconclusive, villain Amalric no patch on Mikkelsen's Le Chiffre and the action frenetic, but nowhere near as pulse-accelerating as in Casino Royale.

Worst of all, considering that this is a revenge flick, I felt virtually no satisfaction whatsoever whenever a villain got his compeuppance! Zilch! That can't be good can it?

[SirNewt]

Just listened to the new theme, yuck!

[Morris Schæffer]

A little boost for my score. **½. It's an incredibly competent crowdpleaser and a bit more exhilarating second time around.

[megladon8]

In case anyone's really desperate and short on cash (or maybe just cheap), the entire movie is on YouTube. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j8JDqwPjvg)

[Raiders]

That'll last about five minutes.

[megladon8]

That'll last about five minutes.


That's what I thought when I found a link to it about 3 days ago.

Yet it's still up.

[Grouchy]

Ok, saw half the opening scene.

No more.

[Ivan Drago]

Seeing tonight at midnight. Can't. Wait.

[Dukefrukem]

how is that movie still up? i dont get it.

[number8]

EPICNESS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_I1tWIG6k

[Henry Gale]

Ebert no like. (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081111/REVIEWS/811129989)

Pretty disheartening considering he gave Casino Royale four stars, and now is giving this half of that and "two thumbs down" on his new website scale. I really like Forster and everyone in the cast I can think of, so I still have excitement left because of them, but the only some good I can see is now my lowered expectations now somehow surprising me.

[Watashi]

His reasonings for not liking it are pretty stupid. He says it has too much action and not enough of the old-school suave Bond feel.

[Sycophant]

His reasonings for not liking it are pretty stupid. He says it has too much action and not enough of the old-school suave Bond feel.If he finds that the emphasis on action stifles the charm and pleasure he's likes from the better Bond films, then why's the reasoning stupid?

[Raiders]

I don't think he's even referring strictly to old-school feel. The last Bond film had plenty of charm along with the action, and let's face it, the biggest tension-builder in the film is over a poker game. From what I have seen, this looks to be something completely different.

[Watashi]

I don't think he's even referring strictly to old-school feel. The last Bond film had plenty of charm along with the action, and let's face it, the biggest tension-builder in the film is over a poker game. From what I have seen, this looks to be something completely different.

I'm sure they'll be some Bond charm in QoS, but it's been clear from the beginning of Casino Royale that Craig's Bond is a separation from the previous Bonds. The gadgets are gone, as are the consistent one-liners. Also, considering QoS is the first true continuation from the previous installment, it seems that it makes sense that Bond is a cold-blooded predator for the majority of the movie. I haven't seen the film, but I like the new direction they are going for instead reusing the same formula over and over.

Also, Ebert liked Die Another Day which is easily in my mind the worst Bond film.

[Watashi]

I think the majority of mixed reviews are coming off the sky high expectations of Casino Royale which is no easy film to top.

[MadMan]

I'm seeing this tomorrow night. I can't wait.

[number8]

Dammit. That was terrible.

[Morris Schæffer]

If he finds that the emphasis on action stifles the charm and pleasure he's likes from the better Bond films, then why's the reasoning stupid?

The new one is compared to the Bourne movies quite a lot, but I don't see that as an inherent flaw. What cannot be denied is that the Bourne movies - all three of them! - are really more persuasive when it comes to plotting, pulse-accelerating action, villainy and payoff.

@number: Nice review even though a "5" isn't exactly terrible.

[Watashi]

What LaLaland do you live in where a 5 is terrible?

[Wryan]

Ebert praised the knotty, gritty reboot in CR but expected the goofy days of old in the second? Seems a little odd. Despite that, I was shocked to find in his CR review that director Campbell had also directed GoldenEye, my favorite Brosnon Bond. I had forgotten that. GE and CR would make for a terrific twofer.

I watched CR again last night. Still fucking great.

[Grouchy]

Ebert can barely be considered a film critic.

[Wryan]

Ebert can barely be considered a film critic.

If you're hinging pointedly on the word "critic," I go back and forth on it myself. He's as mainstream and accessible as you can get without being Walmart-Lowest-Common-Denominator, but I don't think he's ignorant of his charge nor apathetic to his work. He takes great, obvious joy in bringing what he considers to be good films to the attention of as many people as possible. And he knows and exploits and guards just how many people listen to his trademark. He's aware, but I think he's smart enough to use it well and always has been. Doesn't have to be writing for Cahiers to earn my regard.

[Sycophant]

Ebert-bashing is so boring.

[Wryan]

Ebert-bashing is so boring.

You're boring.

[MadMan]

Ebert-bashing is so boring.This. I disagree with the guy every now and then, but I've read his reviews for as long as I can remember. The dude won a Pulitzer so he must be doing something right :P