The 2007 awards/lists/etc thread [Archive] - Page 2

Sycophant

01-04-2008, 07:11 PM

Natch. Noting his condescension is almost redundant these days. :P

He always has a pick like this, whether it be 2006's Running Scared (he also loved Crank), Transporter 2 the year before that, or Torque the year before that. This trend amuses me greatly.Huh. This could bode well for War's rep here at Match-Cut. :P

Qrazy

01-04-2008, 07:13 PM

I loathe people whose entire existence is predicated solely on the refutation of their self-appointed other.

Rowland

01-04-2008, 07:16 PM

I loathe people whose entire existence is predicated solely on the refutation of their self-appointed other.He has No Country For Old Men on his list, right? Everyone loves that, even the hipsters.

transmogrifier

01-05-2008, 12:22 AM

If anyone can explain to me how Zodiac is "morbid, sadistic and self-congratulatory", please let me know. I would greatly appreciate. Lord knows the source is utterly incapable.

Rowland

01-06-2008, 01:51 AM

I dig the hell out of Nathan Lee. Here's his write-up for his list (http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0801,lee,78741,20.html).

Sycophant

01-06-2008, 02:30 AM

I dig the hell out of Nathan Lee. Here's his write-up for his list (http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0801,lee,78741,20.html).I need to read Nathan Lee more. Southland Tales just became top priority and--between this and Armond (I can't believe I'm saying this)--so did Chuck & Larry.

Major props to Lee for calling The Wire "the narrative film of the decade."

monolith94

01-06-2008, 02:45 AM

I give up on Armond.

number8

01-06-2008, 04:40 AM

10. I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry [Dennis Dugan]
I know even fewer people who love this movie than Southland Tales. And they're all gay. So thanks to the liberal, well-intentioned heterosexual film critics out there for, you know, being down with my peeps and everything, but wrong movie to gang up on: This shit is mad funny and will do more to normalize the idea of gay marriage than a hundred crap fag indies booked at the Quad.

:lol:

Ivan Drago

01-07-2008, 06:59 PM

Hell, I just might watch the Critics Choice Awards tonight on VH1. It's gonna be the only award show on this year, so why not?

Sven

01-07-2008, 07:11 PM

I need to read Nathan Lee more. Southland Tales just became top priority and--between this and Armond (I can't believe I'm saying this)--so did Chuck & Larry.

Major props to Lee for calling The Wire "the narrative film of the decade."

Lee's initial review for Chuck and Larry was terribly obnoxious. So is his calling The Wire a "film". He tends to irritate me in the same way Chaw does, but he's still good for a read.

Rowland

01-08-2008, 04:07 AM

Fernando M. Croce's top ten (http://www.cinepassion.org/Archives/Best2007.html)

Ivan Drago

01-08-2008, 04:37 AM

Fernando M. Croce's top ten (http://www.cinepassion.org/Archives/Best2007.html)

Good to see Aqua Teen get some mention. I'm one of the few who really enjoyed it, but part of that is due to the fact that I'm a fan of the show.

Spinal

01-08-2008, 06:38 AM

Fernando M. Croce's top ten (http://www.cinepassion.org/Archives/Best2007.html)

That's a top 12.

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Watashi

01-08-2008, 06:49 PM

DGA nominations:

Paul Thomas Anderson, "There Will Be Blood"
Joel and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men"
Tony Gilroy, "Michael Clayton"
Sean Penn, "Into the Wild"
Julian Schabel, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"

Looks like Wright and Burton's chance are slowly thinning while Clayton and Into the Wild are looking to be more like locks as the days roll on.

Ezee E

01-08-2008, 09:11 PM

Who even saw Michael Clayton to get all these nominations? Match Cut didn't even see it, and Match Cut sees practically everything. Even Redacted.

Sycophant

01-08-2008, 09:15 PM

Who even saw Michael Clayton to get all these nominations? Match Cut didn't even see it, and Match Cut sees practically everything. Even Redacted.
I saw it. While it surprises me that it's up for so many statues, I
think it pretty much deserves it. Gilroy was actually really impressive in his debut outing as director and Tilda Swinton's performance is easily one of the best of the year. It's not necessarily what I'm rooting for in many categories and it's barely hanging in my top ten of the year, but I'm not going to be disappointed if it takes home some honors.

Rowland

01-08-2008, 10:57 PM

Tilda Swinton's performance is easily one of the best of the year. It is? I don't see this at all.

kamran

01-09-2008, 04:02 AM

DGA nominations:

Paul Thomas Anderson, "There Will Be Blood"
Joel and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men"
Tony Gilroy, "Michael Clayton"
Sean Penn, "Into the Wild"
Julian Schabel, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"

I can definitely see this being Oscar's list as well.

Only Gilroy looks kind of vulnerable to me, but Michael Clayton has been doing amazingly well with the precursors.

Ridley Scott better not steal a spot from one of these guys.

Ivan Drago

01-09-2008, 04:07 AM

I can definitely see this being Oscar's list as well.

They're still gonna have nominations? I ask because of the writers strike and all that's going on...

kamran

01-09-2008, 04:15 AM

They're still gonna have nominations? I ask because of the writers strike and all that's going on...

I don't think the strike prevents Academy members from nominating and voting for their peers...

It's the actual ceremony that's in jeopardy. If all else fails, I'm sure they'll do a scaled-down press conference-like deal (like the HFPA is doing for the Globes.)

Ivan Drago

01-09-2008, 05:22 AM

I don't think the strike prevents Academy members from nominating and voting for their peers...

It's the actual ceremony that's in jeopardy. If all else fails, I'm sure they'll do a scaled-down press conference-like deal (like the HFPA is doing for the Globes.)

Really? That's a relief. Good thing there will be recognition given out to films that came out in this great year for cinema after all.

chrisnu

01-14-2008, 02:18 AM

SPOILERS BELOW!

Golden Globe Award winners for film:

Best Picture (Drama): Atonement
Best Picture (Comedy/Musical): Sweeney Todd
Best Director: Julian Schnabel - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Best Actor (Drama): Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood
Best Actress (Drama): Julie Christie - Away From Her
Best Actor (Comedy/Musical): Johnny Depp - Sweeney Todd
Best Actress (Comedy/Musical): Marion Cotillard - La Vie en Rose
Best Supporting Actor: Javier Bardem - No Country For Old Men
Best Supporting Actress: Cate Blanchett - I'm Not There
Best Screenplay: No Country For Old Men
Best Original Score: Dario Marianelli - Atonement
Best Original Song: "Guaranteed" - Into the Wild
Best Foreign Language Film: The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Best Animated Film: Ratatouille

DSNT

01-14-2008, 02:57 AM

What a sad, sad day for Hollywood. Even with DVR and fast-forwarding through all the crap, the hour-long awards presentation was brutal to watch. Rather than announce all the awards, they filled time with inane and uneducated commentary. Not to mention I think they played enough commercials for the 3-hour broadcast.

NickGlass

01-14-2008, 03:51 AM

Wow, that NBC telecast with Billy Bush and Nancy O'Dell was insufferable.

I think my favorite part was when Nancy O'Dell got all feminist, though. Yeah, Gloria Steinum is right behind you, honey!

Ezee E

01-14-2008, 03:55 AM

Good Lord, I really hope the Oscars don't turn out like this.

NickGlass

01-14-2008, 04:05 AM

I think my favorite part was when Nancy O'Dell got all feminist, though. Yeah, Gloria Steinum is right behind you, honey!

Strike that. I just remembered that, at one point (I think after Tina Fey's win), Billy Bush said [and I'm paraphrasing--and probably improving his speech and grammar]:

"Yeah, she's good at writing. I've heard many actor's say that they're only as good as the material they're given."

What a fucking oblivious ass.

EDIT: Also, note that the NBC broadcast didn't feature the award for Best Screenplay.

Ezee E

01-14-2008, 04:22 AM

Strike that. I just remembered that, at one point (I think after Tina Fey's win), Billy Bush said [and I'm paraphrasing--and probably improving his speech and grammar]:

"Yeah, she's good at writing. I've heard many actor's say that they're only as good as the material they're given."

What a fucking oblivious ass.

EDIT: Also, note that the NBC broadcast didn't feature the award for Best Screenplay.
Or Score. Or Foreign Film.

Raiders

01-14-2008, 01:14 PM

Schnabel over the Coens? Psh.

Ezee E

01-14-2008, 04:28 PM

Schnabel over the Coens? Psh.
I think the Golden Globes intended to not follow the predictable winners. Atonement? Really?

Briare

01-14-2008, 05:55 PM

Atonement seemed right up their alley to me. That telecast was a disgrace. I was watching TV this morning and they were discussing it on some early morning talk program and one of the anchors said she was turned off when they announced the first award and Billy Bush insulted the person who won.

Boner M

01-17-2008, 11:24 AM

Llopin

01-17-2008, 12:59 PM

So, 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days didn't make the best foreign film shortlist, while a bunch of (apparently) awful films have.

Man, it'd be so cool to see Johnnie To get nominated. Or even making the short-list. Meh.

Ezee E

01-17-2008, 05:11 PM

So, 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days didn't make the best foreign film shortlist, while a bunch of (apparently) awful films have. Been lots of uproar 'bout in on blogs, and while I didn't like the film as much as some (though I still recommend it), it's would be awesome if this kind of filmmaking got the same kind of attention as Pan's Labyrinth or The Lives of Others. Shame.
Yeah. I figured it was a shoo-in back when it won the Palme D'or. When I saw it at Telluride, I figured it had already won.

The Foreign approach in the Oscars is just plain strange.

MacGuffin

01-21-2008, 08:43 AM

Jonathan Rosenbaum's list:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/moviereviews/080103/rosenbaum/

J.R. Jones' Top Movies of 2007 review:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/moviereviews/080103/jones/

Interesting.

It's kind of depressing to see Jonathan Rosenbaum retire. While you may or may not agree with his tastes, there's no denying his talents in writing.

jesse

01-21-2008, 05:31 PM

It's kind of depressing to see Jonathan Rosenbaum retire. While you may or may not agree with his tastes, there's no denying his talents in writing. Well, he said he would be starting a blog, so this semi-retirement might take him (and his writing) in interesting new directions...

MacGuffin

01-21-2008, 05:52 PM

Well, he said he would be starting a blog, so this semi-retirement might take him (and his writing) in interesting new directions...

Wow, I didn't read or see that, but that's awesome. Now, he'll be writing without any guidelines per se from the publishers. It's good to see writing is what he likes.

jesse

01-21-2008, 06:03 PM

Wow, I didn't read or see that, but that's awesome. Now, he'll be writing without any guidelines per se from the publishers. It's good to see writing is what he likes. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he wrote that in his retirement "announcement."

*is too lazy to look it up to confirm*

Spinal

01-21-2008, 06:20 PM

6. A tie among the dozen best commercial releases.

:rolleyes:

Raiders

01-21-2008, 06:45 PM

:rolleyes:

Come on. Don't disparage his awesome perceptive ability to decipher the Hollywood game and find hope that a film can both make money AND actually be good. Plus, he doesn't just give one, but TWELVE. Clearly, this is a man who sees the good in all cinema.

Spinal

01-21-2008, 06:49 PM

Come on. Don't disparage his awesome perceptive ability to decipher the Hollywood game and find hope that a film can both make money AND actually be good. Plus, he doesn't just give one, but TWELVE. Clearly, this is a man who sees the good in all cinema.

Ratatouille, Blade Runner, Inland Empire ... yeah ... they're all the same.

Raiders

01-21-2008, 07:01 PM

Ratatouille, Blade Runner, Inland Empire ... yeah ... they're all the same.

They are. They're COMMERCIAL films. Evil succubi that feed off the mind an... wait, Inland Empire???

Spinal

01-21-2008, 07:14 PM

They are. They're COMMERCIAL films. Evil succubi that feed off the mind an... wait, Inland Empire???

:crazy:

Raiders

01-21-2008, 07:23 PM

:crazy:

Clearly, you're just a populist pig.

origami_mustache

01-21-2008, 11:52 PM

This might have been mentioned already, but it looks like Jonny Greenwood's score for There Will Be Blood won't be eligible for an Oscar.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/48153-jonny-greenwoods-ibloodi-score-denied-oscar-nod

Sycophant

01-25-2008, 07:10 PM

Tom Mes, Jason Gray, and the rest of the Midnight Eye crew have compiled their annual best and worst of Japanese (and other) cinema lists (http://www.midnighteye.com/features/best-of-2007.shtml). There's so much here that I worry I'll never see.

Rowland

01-25-2008, 07:41 PM

There's so much here that I worry I'll never see.Don't you hate that? So much to see, so little time (and distribution).

I didn't know Retribution counted as an '07 release. It's nice to see some recognition for it, since I've felt like I was overly hard on the movie. And now I really want to see this Strawberry Shortcakes that I've never heard of until now.

Sycophant

01-25-2008, 07:48 PM

Don't you hate that? So much to see, so little time (and distribution).Ugh. Yes. Nicholas Rucka mentions that he's seen all of Nakashima Tetsuya's films and that "he's one of the best directors working in Japan at the moment." The two Nakashima films I've seen, I've absolutely fallen in love with and they're the only ones available in English. It's maddening. I also worry I'll never see any more Yamahita Nobuhiro. Even then, both those directors are far more likely to have more work surface in English than other stuff like the fascinating-sounding I Just Didn't Do It. *sigh*

I didn't know Retribution counted as an '07 release. It's nice to see some recognition for it, since I've felt like I was overly hard on the movie.I really want to give this one another go, as what I've really retained from it are the distinctly, deliciously Kurosawa scenes. Now that I know better what to expect, I may enjoy a second viewing more.

Also, these guys seem pretty liberal with what film is what year of release.

Rowland

01-25-2008, 07:53 PM

I really want to give this one another go, as what I've really retained from it are the distinctly, deliciously Kurosawa scenes. Now that I know better what to expect, I may enjoy a second viewing more.
I just remember how gorgeously crafted it was. The narrative was almost ancillary by comparison. Hell, just watching a Kurosawa movie with such a gorgeous visual transfer was revelatory.

Sycophant

02-13-2008, 05:54 AM

I just got really bummed about how Cody is a total shoo-in for best original screenplay. Even if you like the film, Christ, it's the epitome of overwritten dialogue.

Spinal

02-13-2008, 06:10 AM

Even if you like the film, Christ, it's the epitome of overwritten dialogue.

It should be used in classes as an example of terminal preciousness. It should not receive encouragement.

Ezee E

02-13-2008, 01:48 PM

It's funny to look at myspace's predictions for the Oscars. They've got Juno, Reitman, Depp, Blanchett, Casey Affleck, and Ruby Dee winning.

Sycophant

02-13-2008, 04:31 PM

It should be used in classes as an example of terminal preciousness. It should not receive encouragement.It's bad enough that its fiscal success guarantees at least three years of knock-offs. Its Oscar wins will only stretch that out.

Ivan Drago

02-15-2008, 04:18 PM

Good Lord, I really hope the Oscars don't turn out like this.

They won't. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/12/hollywood.labor.ap/index.html#cnnSTCText)

DavidSeven

02-15-2008, 07:34 PM

I just got really bummed about how Cody is a total shoo-in for best original screenplay. Even if you like the film, Christ, it's the epitome of overwritten dialogue.

It still won't top Haggis' win.

NickGlass

02-15-2008, 07:55 PM

It still won't top Haggis' win.

Yeah, remember when the Best Original Screenplay winner was often the most inspired Academy choice?

Lets trace the rise and fall:

2003: Almodovar, Talk to Her
2004: Coppola, Lost in Translation
2005: Kaufman, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
(screeeeeeeech)
2006: Haggis and that guy who stuttered through the speech, Crash
2007: Ardnt, Little Miss Sunshine
2008: Most likely El Diablo, Juno

That's fucking disgusting.

robhumanick

02-21-2008, 05:53 AM

That's cool and I have no problem whatsoever with his endorsement of it, but his "everybody else missed the boat" condescension is simply unwarranted.

I know this is way back in the conversation, but I simply had to say that I'm glad it's Armond and not me getting ragged on here. :) This is the first time I've ever "found" myself being mentioned online, which is kind of cool. I need to become more active in the community anyway.

Boner M

02-21-2008, 10:29 AM

Welcome aboard, Rob. Dig your blog & writing at Slant.

Duncan

02-21-2008, 12:36 PM

Someone with legitimate critical credentials shows up and the first person he talks to is named Boner. Nice.

Kurosawa Fan

02-21-2008, 12:46 PM

Someone with legitimate critical credentials shows up and the first person he talks to is named Boner. Nice.

:lol:

In all honesty it's best if we get that out of the way early.

Welcome Rob. Glad to have you visit the site.

Rowland

02-21-2008, 02:57 PM

That's it, I'm bumping up my name referencing game twofold.

Watashi

02-21-2008, 04:19 PM

So is this the first semi-celebrity not named Winston to join our boards?

Ezee E

02-21-2008, 04:21 PM

So is this the first semi-celebrity not named Winston to join our boards?
Ary was quoted in an online moviesite. We're hitting bigtime.

Boner M

02-21-2008, 10:03 PM

Someone with legitimate critical credentials shows up and the first person he talks to is named Boner. Nice.
Gotta keep this community tightly-knit.

DSNT

02-24-2008, 12:03 AM

Indy Spirit Awards > Oscars

Ezee E

02-24-2008, 04:33 AM

There was hardly anything funny this year about the Indy Spirit Awards.

It just moves faster, which is very nice.

Watashi

02-24-2008, 05:20 AM

Anything that gives Juno top prize is not good.

Ivan Drago

02-24-2008, 06:13 AM

The more and more I think of Juno, the less I like it. But I have a bad feeling that it'll win Best Picture this year.

Sycophant

02-24-2008, 07:40 AM

If Juno wins, I'll weep. Weep like a weeping little baby.

Winston*

02-24-2008, 08:02 AM

If Juno wins, I'll say "okay", and then if I'm hungry I might make myself a sandwich.

Kurosawa Fan

02-24-2008, 12:01 PM

Indy Spirit Awards > Oscars

Considering they awarded Juno, The Savages, and Crazy Love (three very mediocre films), I have to disagree with this. Unless the Oscars go this route too.

ledfloyd

02-24-2008, 02:12 PM

Considering they awarded Juno, The Savages, and Crazy Love (three very mediocre films), I have to disagree with this. Unless the Oscars go this route too.
yeah, i used to think the ISAs were superior to the oscars, but the last couple years they've really crushed that notion.

DSNT

02-24-2008, 02:28 PM

Considering they awarded Juno, The Savages, and Crazy Love (three very mediocre films), I have to disagree with this. Unless the Oscars go this route too.
I didn't mean the awards they gave, but the show itself. I thought Rainn Wilson did a great job, far better than Sarah Silverman. Especially with the audition tapes, and the opening bit with Dennis Hopper giving Rainn his indie cred was hilarious. My only complaint this year was that they only performed funny songs for two of the nominees.

Plus it moves fast, there are no commercials, and no masturbatory tributes.

Kurosawa Fan

02-24-2008, 02:48 PM

I didn't mean the awards they gave, but the show itself. I thought Rainn Wilson did a great job, far better than Sarah Silverman. Especially with the audition tapes, and the opening bit with Dennis Hopper giving Rainn his indie cred was hilarious. My only complaint this year was that they only performed funny songs for two of the nominees.

Plus it moves fast, there are no commercials, and no masturbatory tributes.

Okay. We are in agreement on the format of the Spirit Awards. Though I really like Silverman, and haven't watched this years show yet so I don't know about Rainn Wilson.

Ezee E

02-24-2008, 04:51 PM

As mentioned, I didn't really like Rainn Wilson at all. He was too obnoxious. Silverman, while also obnoxious, works when she's saying bad jokes. When Rainn imitated Jean-Dominque in Diving Bell it was more offensive than anything. Silverman can pull that type of stuff off for some reason.

The format of the show is great though. I love no commercials. I really like that they take a fun appraoch with the performances, and they don't have any senseless tributes.

What's funny is that for the last three years (maybe more?) the ISAs have awarded Best Film to a movie that has gotten more than $100 million at the box office, and was probably in 2000+ theaters at some point.

NickGlass

02-24-2008, 05:45 PM

What's funny is that for the last three years (maybe more?) the ISAs have awarded Best Film to a movie that has gotten more than $100 million at the box office, and was probably in 2000+ theaters at some point.

This is just not true. Juno was the first in quite a while (I think Crouching Tiger was the last ISA Best Feature winner to bank more than 100 million).

Nonetheless, I will concede that the ISA Best Feature award has recently gone to the most accessible film.

DSNT

02-24-2008, 05:52 PM

Nonetheless, I will concede that the ISA Best Feature award has recently gone to the most accessible film.
Definitely. The last 5 have been Oscar BP nominees.

Sycophant

02-24-2008, 06:04 PM

The Razzies (http://www.razzies.com/history/07Winners.asp).

Kinda yawn, y'know.

chrisnu

02-24-2008, 06:09 PM

The Razzies (http://www.razzies.com/history/07Winners.asp).

Kinda yawn, y'know.
C'mon now. Captivity needed to win something!

DSNT

02-24-2008, 06:15 PM

Bratz was robbed!

Kurosawa Fan

02-24-2008, 06:27 PM

The Razzies (http://www.razzies.com/history/07Winners.asp).

Kinda yawn, y'know.

Yeah. They need to just stop. The joke is tired, and has been for a long time.

Rowland

02-24-2008, 06:55 PM

The Razzies (http://www.razzies.com/history/07Winners.asp).

Kinda yawn, y'know.Yep, as witless as usual.

Ezee E

02-24-2008, 09:57 PM

This is just not true. Juno was the first in quite a while (I think Crouching Tiger was the last ISA Best Feature winner to bank more than 100 million).

Nonetheless, I will concede that the ISA Best Feature award has recently gone to the most accessible film.
Yeah, I take that back. Apologies.

Nonetheless, the winning movie tends to have made quite a bit of money, and still been released in a good amount of theaters.

Ezee E

02-24-2008, 09:58 PM

The Razzies sure worked hard to bash Lindsay Lohan.

Watashi

02-24-2008, 10:13 PM

You think we should create a separate thread for the Oscar ceremony?

Rowland

02-24-2008, 10:22 PM

Senses of Cinema released their extensive 2007 World Poll:

Part I (http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/08/46/2007-world-poll-1.html)
Part II (http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/08/46/2007-world-poll-2.html)
Part III (http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/08/46/2007-world-poll-3.html)