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Mara
10-15-2009, 07:17 PM
Firely cast ranked:

1. Mal
2. Jayne
3. Kaylee
4. Wash
5. River
6. Zoe
7. Shepherd Book
8. Badger



22. Simon









114. Inara

number8
10-15-2009, 07:20 PM
1. Mal
2. Wash
3. Kaylee
4. Jayne
5. Shepherd Book
6. Zoe
7. River
8. Simon
9. Badger
Get Naked More. Inara


By the way, I never noticed until a few months ago that young Simon in the flashbacks were played by Zac Efron.

Mara
10-15-2009, 07:22 PM
Oops, sorry dude. I got all caught up in the mocking. I think people haven't answered yet because a couple questions don't have answers yet:

1. Has Alexis Denisof been awesome?

He's barely been in so far, but he looks fantastic. They put him in good suits. Also, his natural accent is very attractive.

2. Has Summer Glau been awesome?

She's still upcoming. But she will be awesome.

3. How many episodes are included in this season?

I think... 13?

4. How many Whedon-penned and/or directed episodes are we to expect? I always found it sad that he got to a point in Angel where he would only write an episode per season.

Only one so far. Jed Whedon and Jed Whedon's hot wife seem to be doing a couple.

Mara
10-15-2009, 07:25 PM
By the way, I never noticed until a few months ago that young Simon in the flashbacks were played by Zac Efron.

I noticed that when rewatching with my sister. We thought it was funny.

He wasn't very good, but Simon is kind of wooden most of the time.

Mara
10-15-2009, 07:28 PM
Ah, thanks!

I was actually just thinking the other day how it might be weird watching Alexis Denisof and having him not sound like Wesley.

He was pretty dang funny on How I Met Your Mother, but it wasn't very extended. I think we're going to be getting into some meaty stuff with him on Dollhouse pretty soon.

[ETM]
10-15-2009, 07:32 PM
Only one so far. Jed Whedon and Jed Whedon's hot wife seem to be doing a couple.

They did the last one, I think, and the next one is theirs.

EyesWideOpen
10-15-2009, 07:43 PM
My like of Inara had less to do with her acting and more to do with the fact that she is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.

ledfloyd
10-15-2009, 09:18 PM
My like of Inara had less to do with her acting and more to do with the fact that she is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
mm

[ETM]
10-16-2009, 12:19 AM
A pretty cool fan-made promo video for Dollhouse:
http://www.whyiwatch.com/promo/

Adam
10-16-2009, 04:07 AM
NBC's lineup was relatively lame all around but thankfully It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia swept in and pretty much saved the televised comedy night

Dead & Messed Up
10-16-2009, 06:21 AM
NBC's lineup was relatively lame all around but thankfully It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia swept in and pretty much saved the televised comedy night

I only saw Parks, so I can't vouch for the rest, but I cannot believe that you didn't get some solid laughs out of Fred Armisen.

Kurosawa Fan
10-16-2009, 11:56 AM
NBC's lineup was relatively lame all around but thankfully It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia swept in and pretty much saved the televised comedy night

30 Rock was fantastic.

[ETM]
10-16-2009, 01:25 PM
30 Rock was fantastic.

The jab at Leno was sublime.

Mara
10-16-2009, 01:41 PM
Just saw a clip from Letterman where Tina Fey talks about being a virgin until she was 24, and that she "couldn't give it away."

:lol:

That's hilarious and vaguely unbelievable. I'd practically have sex with Tina Fey, and I'm both straight and unbelievably prudish.

[ETM]
10-16-2009, 02:34 PM
I'd practically have sex with Tina Fey, and I'm both straight and unbelievably prudish.

You were also not legal when she was a virgin.;)

Mara
10-16-2009, 02:58 PM
;211321']You were also not legal when she was a virgin.;)

Okay, fine, you caught me, I wouldn't have really had sex with her.

My point is, she's a lovely woman.

ledfloyd
10-16-2009, 03:09 PM
i'd have sex with her now.

number8
10-16-2009, 04:03 PM
i'd have sex with her now.

Well, yeah, she's way hotter now than she was back then.

[ETM]
10-16-2009, 04:30 PM
My point is, she's a lovely woman.

She's totally hot, even when trying everything to appear the opposite on the show.

Mara
10-16-2009, 05:10 PM
Catching up on The Office, and I have to point out that my business works with a guy with the greatest Italian-American name I've ever heard.

Are you ready?

It's... Guido DiGiandomenico. I've been saying it randomly for days.

B-side
10-17-2009, 04:26 AM
Milk steak.

Ezee E
10-17-2009, 06:06 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tina Fey draws from her own life when applying some of those past memories of her character. She looks great now, although sometimes there's something on her chin that gets me. I don't even know what it is.

number8
10-17-2009, 07:22 AM
Did you guys ever see that episode where she appeared as an extra in Gwyneth Paltrow's monologue? This was about 10 years ago.

Acapelli
10-17-2009, 07:28 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tina Fey draws from her own life when applying some of those past memories of her character. She looks great now, although sometimes there's something on her chin that gets me. I don't even know what it is.
it's a scar

Adam
10-17-2009, 08:20 AM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/11/1110_tina_fey_side_by_side_fm. jpg

ledfloyd
10-17-2009, 02:25 PM
hmm, i guess she did look... a little manly back then.

Lucky
10-17-2009, 03:25 PM
Milk steak.

I'm a full-on rapist.

Raiders
10-17-2009, 06:13 PM
Speaking of Inara, I really can't decide how interested I am in V. I have certainly seen the promos enough.

EyesWideOpen
10-17-2009, 07:05 PM
Speaking of Inara, I really can't decide how interested I am in V. I have certainly seen the promos enough.

I was mildly intrested but after I saw Inara was the main alien I was all in.

[ETM]
10-17-2009, 07:36 PM
She looks good with short hair. Let's just hope the show actually is worth a damn.

Mara
10-17-2009, 11:11 PM
Hmm. I tried Veronica Mars a couple of years ago and simply couldn't love it.

I'm retrying the first episode and finding it more palatable. I'm not sure what changed.

Kurosawa Fan
10-17-2009, 11:40 PM
Hmm. I tried Veronica Mars a couple of years ago and simply couldn't love it.

I'm retrying the first episode and finding it more palatable. I'm not sure what changed.

Well apparently you have much better taste now. :P

Man I love Veronica. Except season 3. What a waste.

Mara
10-17-2009, 11:52 PM
I didn't hate it or anything, I just couldn't muster any excitement. I'm feeling it a little bit more this time and I think I'll make the full run-through.

Mara
10-18-2009, 12:12 AM
I forgot Paris Hilton was on this show. Why was she on this show?

By the way, in case anyone is curious, she was EYE-BLEEDINGLY-AWFUL on Supernatural. Our boys chopped her head off with an ax and it was still inexcusable.

Kurosawa Fan
10-18-2009, 12:39 AM
I forgot Paris Hilton was on this show. Why was she on this show?

By the way, in case anyone is curious, she was EYE-BLEEDINGLY-AWFUL on Supernatural. Our boys chopped her head off with an ax and it was still inexcusable.

Never understood this either. Luckily it's her only appearance. As you say though, inexcusable.

Kurosawa Fan
10-18-2009, 01:27 PM
I stopped Veronica Mars watching after the first season.

I remember really disliking the way they shoehorned some contrived romance between Veronica and Logan.

Wow. My wife and I loved that. I thought they did a great job bringing depth to a character who had otherwise been pretty one-dimensional.

Their romance made a lot of sense. Despite some differences in ideals, their personalities are very similar. They also had great chemistry together.

Kurosawa Fan
10-18-2009, 04:33 PM
Okay, and from what I recall, I disagree. Very cringe-worthy and forced. The sudden shift in Logan may have brought him a modicum of 'depth' but it didn't seem like a natural switch at all.

The only things I remember liking about the show were Wallace, Veronica and her father. Most of the performances we're too loaded with haminess and incompetence. Especially the dude who played Duncan.

It'd be impossible for me to agree more about Duncan. He was simply awful.

They get rid of him in season two, thankfully.

Lucky
10-18-2009, 05:21 PM
Well apparently you have much better taste now. :P

Man I love Veronica. Except season 3. What a waste.

This reminds me. You need to watch Buffy.

EvilShoe
10-18-2009, 05:24 PM
Don't do it, KF!

Kurosawa Fan
10-18-2009, 05:41 PM
This reminds me. You need to watch Buffy.


Don't do it, KF!

:lol:

My sister owns the entire series. One of these days I'm going to cave, I know it.

Mara
10-18-2009, 06:42 PM
:lol:

My sister owns the entire series. One of these days I'm going to cave, I know it.

The necessary Buffy disclaimer: you really have to go all the way through season one (which, thankfully, is only a dozen episodes long) before it starts getting into the meaty stuff. Season 2 is substantially better, and season 3 on is fantastic.

The balance is has between scary-corny-funny-serious is a tricky one, and so the early episodes often veer into the hammy or melodramatic. You have to start with the first season, though, because the intricate and long-term plotting of the show is one of the greatest strenghts. Storylines aren't ever really thrown away or abandoned, and you find enormous twists (see: beginning of season 5) seeded all the way back in the beginning of season 3. The continuity is extraordinary.

Also, the early special effects are awful.

Mara
10-19-2009, 12:08 AM
Watching Veronica Mars makes me think how some of my favorite television characters are people that were already dead when the series started.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/veronica-mars-lilly-kane14.jpg

Lilly Kane

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/32546.jpg

Harry Morgan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/1329632_bc9.jpg

Christian Shephard

Can you think of any more?

Winston*
10-19-2009, 12:23 AM
I've been watching a lot of the first season of The West Wing. Everyone in the White House is so great!

[ETM]
10-19-2009, 12:35 AM
Can you think of any more?

Pretty much the entire cast of Dead Like Me.

And I can't believe you forgot Eric Northman.

Mara
10-19-2009, 02:55 AM
I would put "the undead" in a different catagory. Good call on the Dead Like Me folks, though.

I never got into Twin Peaks, but the dead girl featured prominently, didn't she?

[ETM]
10-20-2009, 10:44 PM
Yay, Castle just got a full season pick-up. I'm so glad for Fillion.

Dead & Messed Up
10-21-2009, 12:36 AM
;212303']Yay, Castle just got a full season pick-up. I'm so glad for Fillion.

Yeah, I felt the same way when Campbell locked down Burn Notice.

Spun Lepton
10-21-2009, 01:46 AM
The balance is has between scary-corny-funny-serious is a tricky one, and so the early episodes often veer into the hammy or melodramatic. You have to start with the first season, though, because the intricate and long-term plotting of the show is one of the greatest strenghts. Storylines aren't ever really thrown away or abandoned, and you find enormous twists (see: beginning of season 5) seeded all the way back in the beginning of season 3. The continuity is extraordinary.

Yeah, that was one of the things that I really admired about Buffy. They were setting up plot twists loooong before to the actual twists.

Spun Lepton
10-21-2009, 01:47 AM
;212303']Yay, Castle just got a full season pick-up. I'm so glad for Fillion.

It's about time that man got a regular paying gig. He deserves it.

Time to pop in Slither again!

"I'm Bill Pardy."

Mara
10-21-2009, 01:24 PM
I finally caught up to where I stopped watching Veronica Mars all those years ago, and I remember why I stopped. It was on the episode about the secret society in the school, and it was deeply lame. I don't think I had even finished it last time.

But this time I finished it and will soldier on. There's good stuff there with well-written characters (for the most part-- I tend to forget Logan exists every time he's not actively on screen.)

And I'm deeply curious about the murder-mystery and rape-mystery.

Mara
10-22-2009, 12:56 PM
There's good stuff there with well-written characters (for the most part-- I tend to forget Logan exists every time he's not actively on screen.)

DUNCAN NOT LOGAN. Stupid names are too close. Duncan is very forgettable.

Logan, on the other hand, is a deeply awesome character. I love 99.5% of him. The .5% involves his frosted blonde tips. (No, sweetie.)

Kurosawa Fan
10-22-2009, 01:04 PM
DUNCAN NOT LOGAN. Stupid names are too close. Duncan is very forgettable.

Logan, on the other hand, is a deeply awesome character. I love 99.5% of him. The .5% involves his frosted blonde tips. (No, sweetie.)

I was really hoping you'd made a mistake. I can't imagine anyone thinking Logan is a forgettable character. And don't worry about Duncan. Everyone hated him for precisely the same reason you do. His role is significantly cut down in future episodes.

Mara
10-22-2009, 01:12 PM
I can't tell if Duncan is being told "act drugged out at all times" or if he's just a really bad actor. He's also forgettably handsome-- good-looking but cookie cutter.

Logan is less handsome but at least has an interesting face.

Oh, and a personality. They've done a good job with going beyond "troubled" into "disturbed" without losing his humanity.

Kurosawa Fan
10-22-2009, 01:14 PM
I can't tell if Duncan is being told "act drugged out at all times" or if he's just a really bad actor. He's also forgettably handsome-- good-looking but cookie cutter.

Logan is less handsome but at least has an interesting face.

Oh, and a personality. They've done a good job with going beyond "troubled" into "disturbed" without losing his humanity.

I think he's just bad, because even in later episodes when he shouldn't be drugged out, he's still terrible. And I agree about his looks. As boring as his character.

Kurosawa Fan
10-22-2009, 02:37 PM
Dollhouse has been benched for November Sweeps (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/21/will-fox-bench-dollhouse-for-november-sweeps-after-all/31184), and won't air again until December. Not a good sign for additional episodes after this 13 ep. run.

Mara
10-22-2009, 03:05 PM
Dollhouse has been benched for November Sweeps (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/21/will-fox-bench-dollhouse-for-november-sweeps-after-all/31184), and won't air again until December. Not a good sign for additional episodes after this 13 ep. run.

See, we're all still using pickup lines in the cancer wards.

I thought about buying Season 1 in Target yesterday, and then thought, "Naw, I'll wait until next year and buy the complete series." Because... yeah.

Mara
10-22-2009, 08:23 PM
Hey, check it out! An old friend of mine from college, Erin, is in Veronica Mars! We did a couple of workshops together, but lost touch after college.

She's a working actress and model, although she's never been huge in anything. Every once in a awhile I see her in things. She also has a subway ad that I see constantly, about reducing energy costs or something. Cute as a button. She's playing Abel Koontz' daughter.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/erin2.jpg

EDIT: Hey, Google didn't let me down! This is her subway ad, which is everywhere:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/chevron.jpg

Adam
10-22-2009, 08:30 PM
I hate to see people I used to know succeeding

Mara
10-22-2009, 08:35 PM
I hate to see people I used to know succeeding

Really? I get all proud.

Winston*
10-22-2009, 08:36 PM
That subway ad makes no sense to me.

Qrazy
10-22-2009, 08:39 PM
Really? I get all proud.

That probably means you're a success too. Jerk.

Kurosawa Fan
10-22-2009, 08:43 PM
That probably means you're a success too. Jerk.

She knows there's no success like failure, and that failure's no success at all.

Mara
10-22-2009, 08:44 PM
That subway ad makes no sense to me.

It's a series of people making energy-efficient pledges. But the real point is that pretty people say Chevron is a good company! So it's true.

And I wouldn't consider myself successful or unsuccessful... yet.

Dead & Messed Up
10-22-2009, 11:16 PM
Really? I get all proud.

Depends on the person. I'm happy for the nice ones, angry at the jerks. Reminders that life is fundamentally unfair bother me.

[ETM]
10-22-2009, 11:18 PM
Sweet! The next episode of Castle is totally nerdgasmic...
Check out the clip: http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/10/castle-episode-206-vampire-weekend_22.html
:lol:

[ETM]
10-23-2009, 02:39 AM
Batman: The Musical? Neil Patrick Harris as The Music Meister? What devilry is this? http://tv.ign.com/dor/objects/14245048/batmanbraveandthebold/videos/batman_bab2_102009.html

number8
10-23-2009, 03:02 AM
Saw that episode when it went up on YouTube a few weeks ago. It's pretty awesome.

Spun Lepton
10-23-2009, 03:06 AM
Hulu to start charging for content starting in 2010.

http://gizmodo.com/5387909/hulus-free-glory-days-are-officially-numbered

In other news, Hulu set to officially close down sometime in late 2010.

number8
10-23-2009, 03:22 AM
Gizmodo is oversensationalizing it. They're going to charge some cable channel stuff and maybe some exclusive content, but not the majority of the NBC, FOX, ABC shows or movies.

Spun Lepton
10-23-2009, 03:44 AM
Gizmodo is oversensationalizing it. They're going to charge some cable channel stuff and maybe some exclusive content, but not the majority of the NBC, FOX, ABC shows or movies.

Ah-ha, well, that's less bothersome.

MadMan
10-23-2009, 05:30 AM
Gizmodo is oversensationalizing it. They're going to charge some cable channel stuff and maybe some exclusive content, but not the majority of the NBC, FOX, ABC shows or movies.Oh, well I don't mind that, seeing as I hardly watch any of the cable shows anyways.

Adam
10-23-2009, 10:18 AM
Parks and Rec was kinda boring tonight, even though Chris Pratt had an especially hilarious show. Amy Poehler was looking stacked, too. The first half of The Office was very funny, but the second was virtually laughless. Still easily the highlight of the telvised comedy night for me, though. 30 Rock felt forced and flat, like its premiere, but every season of 30 Rock has started like that, so we'll see

I missed Always Sunny because I was watching the ALCS. I heard it was funny

Dead & Messed Up
10-23-2009, 10:33 PM
Parks and Rec and Community got their full-season renewals! Huzzah!

number8
10-24-2009, 12:02 AM
Catching up with Castle. Just watched last week's. I like this show more and more.

"How can you not like The Sting? Didn't it take like 20 Oscars?"

[ETM]
10-24-2009, 12:09 AM
Catching up with Castle. Just watched last week's. I like this show more and more.

"How can you not like The Sting? Didn't it take like 20 Oscars?"

Next one's gonna be a hoot: "...Are you wearing suspenders?"

I really like how the murder mysteries are getting better this season, and how that doesn't really matter anyway, since it's all about the characters. Fillion is, well, Fillion, but Katic has a surprisingly well developed knack for comedy. With those looks and ass-kicking skillz, I can see her doing really well in the future.

number8
10-24-2009, 12:13 AM
She does.

"Shut the front door!"

Qrazy
10-24-2009, 04:37 AM
Did anyone watch Peep Show Season 6? Holy shit episode 2 was hilarious.

number8
10-24-2009, 05:07 AM
*slow clap*

Phenomenal job, Dollhouse.

[ETM]
10-24-2009, 05:31 AM
*slow clap*

Phenomenal job, Dollhouse.

Just seen it.

Fucking awesome. I'm sorry about going Deb Morgan on everyone, but fuck FOX, fuck the Nielsen families... I want to watch stuff like this every fucking week.

I can't fucking believe they're now shelving it until fucking December.

Mara
10-24-2009, 04:03 PM
Holy Schneikes, Dollhouse is phenomenal television. I'm speechless.

Mara
10-24-2009, 04:12 PM
I'm trying to find a screenshot of what Echo etched on the top of her... um... sleep-bed-cover? What is that thing called?

Anyway, coming up empty. Rep for anyone who finds it.

And Victor and Sierra are apparently making a run for my favorite couple thread. Victor waiting for her by the plant for all those hours just about killed me. And the scene in the shower with the paint! Wow.

[ETM]
10-24-2009, 05:02 PM
I'm trying to find a screenshot of what Echo etched on the top of her... um... sleep-bed-cover? What is that thing called?

Pod cover?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/sf_anime/snapshot20091024185731.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/sf_anime/snapshot20091024185830.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/sf_anime/snapshot20091024185853.png

number8
10-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Yeah, I regret deleting it from my DVR right after. I really want to watch it again. That episode was just stellar all around.

Mara
10-24-2009, 10:28 PM
A local store was having a DVD blowout and had the first two seasons of Alias, bundled, for $10. I bit, because I think I started disliking the show in season 3.

A few thoughts on the pilot:

1. Bradley Cooper is a very good-looking man. Why did he disappear after this show and the suddenly reappear this year?
2. The pilot is one of the most intriguing pilots I've ever seen, in terms of setting up a fascinating scenario and having an established tone. It reminds me of the pilot of Lost, which was phenomenal.
3. I like Jennifer Garner, too. And Victor Garber. And Ron Rifkin. The cast, essentially.
4. THIS SHOW RIPPED SO HARDCORE OFF LA FEMME NIKITA IT ISN'T EVEN FUNNY.

[ETM]
10-24-2009, 10:37 PM
4. THIS SHOW RIPPED SO HARDCORE OFF LA FEMME NIKITA IT ISN'T EVEN FUNNY.

I've only seen like one episode recently, and I almost laughed at how it did remind me of Nikita, the "serious agent is serious" attitudes and the hilarious Chuck-like, but played as dead-serious and "realistic", world of global espionage.

Raiders
10-24-2009, 10:39 PM
I don't think Cooper ever disappeared... he was just doing supporting parts until this year, with the exception of Midnight Meat Train which got a bum theatrical deal.

Acapelli
10-24-2009, 10:39 PM
Did anyone watch Peep Show Season 6? Holy shit episode 2 was hilarious.
the season only gets better

gonna watch the final episode later tonight

Mara
10-24-2009, 10:55 PM
I don't think Cooper ever disappeared... he was just doing supporting parts until this year, with the exception of Midnight Meat Train which got a bum theatrical deal.

I've looked it up and I'm skeered of it.





By the way, I gave my sister my Netflix account and password so she can use my instant view, which she has continued to do since she went back to school. It's a little embarassing to see what she watches, and I'm wondering if I should drop a hint about the whole "RATE WHAT YOU'VE WATCHED" box that pops up when I go in.

Qrazy
10-25-2009, 12:06 AM
the season only gets better

gonna watch the final episode later tonight

Yeah, it was a good season. Still it pisses me off that these BBC'ers have such short seasons.

[ETM]
10-25-2009, 12:20 AM
Still it pisses me off that these BBC'ers have such short seasons.

That's why they're so good. In the US (with very few exceptions), if you boil it down to the best shows per season of any show, the really good episodes are about as many as the British seasons. Most BBC shows I love literally have all episodes of almost equal quality.

number8
10-25-2009, 05:48 AM
Wanna know why? Because usually the creator(s) write all 6 episodes, so it maintains the quality throughout a series.

US showrunners can't really do this with 22-episode seasons. Unless they're Aaron Sorkin. In which case you are a cocaine addict.

number8
10-25-2009, 07:52 AM
Did anyone else watch the Neil Patrick Harris musical episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold today?

Because it was freaking awesome.

Mara
10-25-2009, 12:55 PM
;213178']I've only seen like one episode recently, and I almost laughed at how it did remind me of Nikita, the "serious agent is serious" attitudes and the hilarious Chuck-like, but played as dead-serious and "realistic", world of global espionage.

But it's so much more than that. I'm going to make a quick list. LA FEMME NIKITA vs. ALIAS.

1. They both feature beautiful young women who work for corrupt spy agencies against thier will and better judgment.

2. Both women are in love with someone from whom they take orders. The beloved person will not allow himself to love her back. Sometimes they manage to get together, but it doesn't last long and the break-up is ugly.

3. They are both actively working to undermine and ruin the organization they work for. In Alias, she's working with the CIA. In LFN, she's working independently.

4. In LFN, the organization (Section 1) is a black ops with ties to most Western governments. It claims to be antiterrorist but actually works for its own evil purposes. In Alias, the organization (SD6) pretends to be affiliated with the CIA, but it's not. It claims to be antiterrorist but actually works for its own evil purposes.

5. Both Section 1 and SD6 are run by stately, handsome, older gentlemen, who have mixed feelings of affection and hatred for the heroine. She hates him entirely.

6. Both heroines have friends within the organization. In LFN, she is friends with the nerdy, socially awkward computer genius and the friendly weapons expert. In Alias, she is friends with the nerdy, socially awkward computer genius who is also the weapons expert.

7. Both heroines' main job is to retrieve objects, people, and information. Nine times out of ten, these objects are being held in elaborate locations that are hosting formal parties. The heroines need to put on wigs and slutty dresses and find the object/person/information. If caught by security, she acts ditzy and pretends to be looking for the bathroom. THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO HAPPENS CONSTANTLY.

8. The heroines often end up fighting without weapons when they are fighting other women. Sometimes, the other woman is Gina Torres.

9. The heroines' private lives are sabotaged routinely by the organization. If they have a boyfriend/lover, that person is at considerable risk from the organization and may or may not be killed.

10. The heroines both have fathers that sort of do and sort of do not work for the corrupt organization. The fathers have confused feelings towards the daughters and regularly either save them or put them in danger.

And that's just off the top of my head. They're like the same show, one Canadian and one American, one with a blonde and one with a brunette. It's freaky.

[ETM]
10-25-2009, 01:47 PM
Wanna know why? Because usually the creator(s) write all 6 episodes, so it maintains the quality throughout a series.

US showrunners can't really do this with 22-episode seasons. Unless they're Aaron Sorkin. In which case you are a cocaine addict.

Well, exactly. Writers from Reaper jump into Dollhouse, and Dushku starts lactating.

I really loved that about British shows - you put Coupling on, and every episode says "by Steven Moffat" up front. It's never "I hope it's a good one", but "Squeeeee!"

[ETM]
10-25-2009, 01:53 PM
But it's so much more than that. I'm going to make a quick list.

I'm pretty certain there are more shows that almost fit that list. It was a trend for a while.

amberlita
10-25-2009, 06:31 PM
:lol: Nice breakdown Mara. I can't recall any other shows doing a similar thing, atleast not mainstream. But here's the more important question....Who's hotter: Sydney or Nikita? This or That?


http://www.fotolode.com/images/amberlita/1177457fdyhdethg.jpg

http://www.fotolode.com/images/amberlita/vh0wngmvrkzl.jpg


http://www.fotolode.com/images/amberlita/18761537.jpg

http://www.fotolode.com/images/amberlita/htfimgcache36962.jpg

number8
10-25-2009, 06:38 PM
Joke question, right? Nikita doesn't look like she eats from a feeding bag.

EyesWideOpen
10-25-2009, 06:43 PM
I almost never find Jennifer Garner attractive but the second picture of her is pretty hot.

Qrazy
10-25-2009, 08:06 PM
I find them both attractive but Nikita for sure.

Mara
10-25-2009, 08:34 PM
Wow, I think Jennifer Garner is beautiful, and you guys are crazy. I also think she comes across as particularly charming in interviews. I like her a lot.

That said, I think Peta's eyes are so stunning that I'm going to put her slightly ahead. Is it too gay to call them haunting? ...it probably is.

number8
10-25-2009, 08:44 PM
Wow, I think Jennifer Garner is beautiful, and you guys are crazy.

http://www.seen-site.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sheeeit.jpg

Acapelli
10-25-2009, 09:22 PM
http://www.seen-site.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sheeeit.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfCixsd2N8

number8
10-25-2009, 11:06 PM
Did anyone else watch the Neil Patrick Harris musical episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold today?

Because it was freaking awesome.

I watched this again.

Bat-autotune for the win.

amberlita
10-25-2009, 11:28 PM
Nikita all the way for me but Garner gets too much flak, imo. She's gorgeous on the screen, just has a sharp jaw line that makes her look masculine sometimes. Her face doesn't photograph well.

[ETM]
10-25-2009, 11:47 PM
I watched this again.

Bat-autotune for the win.

I just saw it. Frakkin'... brilliant.:pritch:

"Was the singing really necessary?"

number8
10-26-2009, 04:18 AM
I'm downloading the soundtrack from iTunes. The lyrics to the love song just cracks me up.

I wish he would love me
Like he loves fighting villainy...

[ETM]
10-26-2009, 04:34 AM
I wish he would love me
Like he loves fighting villainy...

That totally cracked me up.:lol:

I literally fell over when Batman started singing.

Acapelli
10-26-2009, 04:44 AM
looks like jeff dunham is the new carlos mencia


Before I talk about last night's premiere of The Jeff Dunham Show on Comedy Central, I would first like to issue a couple of apologies. I'm sorry, Jay Leno, I was wrong. Your comedy is hackneyed, aggressively middlebrow, toothless, and focuses way too much on your expensive car collection, and your exit from the Tonight Show only to reclaim the 10PM slot was obnoxious. But you are the Louis C.K. of late night with the manners of Princess Grace compared to Jeff Dunham. And I'm sorry, Seth MacFarlane, I was wrong. Your TV shows are stupid, repetitive, poorly written, and insufferably scatalogical, and you yourself seem to be excessively arrogant and self-congratulatory, with terrible taste in leather jackets and hand tanning. But you are the thinking man's (pre-Soon-Yi) Woody Allen, blazing Mark Twainian paths of comedic invention compared to Jeff Dunham and his horror show of backwoods racist, homophobic, misogynistic, anti-semitic, shithead puppets.

...
http://videogum.com/archives/hate-watching/the_jeff_dunham_show_is_the_wo _097221.html

number8
10-26-2009, 06:27 PM
Don't forget, tonight on Castle, Mal Reynolds returns.

Mara
10-26-2009, 06:34 PM
;213343']I just saw it. Frakkin'... brilliant.:pritch:

"Was the singing really necessary?"

Two minutes in, and I have to point out the premise is completely ripped from Buffy's Once More, with Feeling.

That's not necessarily a bad thing.

Continuing.

Mara
10-26-2009, 06:44 PM
Two minutes in, and I have to point out the premise is completely ripped from Buffy's Once More, with Feeling.

Well, not completely, but pretty close.

Also, it's awesome.

Mara
10-26-2009, 07:03 PM
By the way, anyone curious exactly how silly the musical episode of Buffy got, here is a non-spoilery moment of goodness: the shortest song on the soundtrack, only about ten seconds long, regarding dry cleaning. It's called The Mustard. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uMnCrbiZIo)

Raiders
10-26-2009, 11:45 PM
Yeah, my ignorant, right wing in laws are big fans of Jeff Dunham. Admittedly, I don't care how offensive he is, it's more that he just ain't funny.

Ezee E
10-27-2009, 03:08 AM
Yeah, my ignorant, right wing in laws are big fans of Jeff Dunham. Admittedly, I don't care how offensive he is, it's more that he just ain't funny.
This. My firehouse loves him, and I just don't understand it. I generally walk out of the room when they play youtube clips of him.

Winston*
10-28-2009, 08:34 PM
The first season finale of The West Wing was very cliffhangery. Almost making me reconsider cancelling my DVD service so I can see what happens.

This show is much better than Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.

number8
10-28-2009, 09:22 PM
I think the Season 2 finale of The West Wing is one of the finest hours in television ever written.

Winston*
10-28-2009, 09:30 PM
Maybe it's my problem but I have trouble believing Rob Lowe as a brilliant political mind.

Mara
10-29-2009, 01:55 AM
The first season finale of The West Wing was very cliffhangery. Almost making me reconsider cancelling my DVD service so I can see what happens.

You really must see season 2 by any means necessary.

***

Still thinking about LFN and Alias, because I'm home sick for the rest of the week (my doctor insisted, and wrote me a note like I'm twelve years old) so I'm still doing rewatches.

I think the biggest difference is how very nihilistic La Femme Nikita is. Section One is so very evil that SD6 seems almost benign in comparison. Section One actively tortures and kills their own agents and has no problem whoring them out. (In Alias, Sydney freaks out once because a bad guy licked her face. Section One would have forced her to carry his child.)

Also, Nikita is much more of a killer. She may agonize over it in private, but she will shoot a man in the face without wincing. Sydney almost never pulls a trigger, and will beat up a baddie and leave him there without finishing him off.

ledfloyd
10-29-2009, 06:03 AM
This. My firehouse loves him, and I just don't understand it. I generally walk out of the room when they play youtube clips of him.
strange. the only person i've ever heard say jeff dunham was funny was a firefighter.

number8
10-29-2009, 06:56 AM
Thank you to whoever put this scene from this week's CASTLE on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q3pdj9p6yI

Brings a tear to my eyes. I love you, Nathan Fillion.

"Don't you think you should move on?"
"I like it."

[ETM]
10-29-2009, 01:47 PM
Yeah, I've been meaning to check it out. Definitely like the cast, can't go wrong with Jonesy and Bryce Larkin.

Kurosawa Fan
10-29-2009, 02:01 PM
;214206']Yeah, I've been meaning to check it out. Definitely like the cast, can't go wrong with Jonesy and Bryce Larkin.

They made a serious misstep with Tiffani Theisen. She is just unbelievably bad. My wife was cringing whenever she appeared, and said there were better performances in her Intro to Theater courses in college. She is terrible, there's no denying that. But her role is smaller than most, so she's easy to ignore.

Kurosawa Fan
10-29-2009, 02:29 PM
CALLING ALL CHUCK FANS!!

NBC ordered six more episodes (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/28/more-chuck-sooner-reports-of-6-additional-episodes-and-a-january-return/31912) for the upcoming season, with a start date in January rather than March. That makes a total of 19 episodes for season three.

:pritch:

[ETM]
10-29-2009, 02:42 PM
They made a serious misstep with Tiffani Theisen. She is just unbelievably bad. My wife was cringing whenever she appeared, and said there were better performances in her Intro to Theater courses in college. She is terrible, there's no denying that. But her role is smaller than most, so she's easy to ignore.

Yeah, I've read Mo Ryan's take on it, and she said pretty much the same thing. It's okay, I'm good at ignoring the bad for the greater good.


CALLING ALL CHUCK FANS!!

NBC ordered six more episodes (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/28/more-chuck-sooner-reports-of-6-additional-episodes-and-a-january-return/31912) for the upcoming season, with a start date in January rather than March. That makes a total of 19 episodes for season three.

:pritch:

Heard it yesterday.:D And I just finished S2 yesterday. I think Chuck benefits greatly from tighter seasons, S2 got a bit too cartoony towards the end, but it's gonna be lots of fun in S3.

Kurosawa Fan
10-29-2009, 02:50 PM
;214215']Yeah, I've read Mo Ryan's take on it, and she said pretty much the same thing. It's okay, I'm good at ignoring the bad for the greater good.


Who is Mo Ryan? Someone I should be reading? The only TV columnist I read is Alan Sepinwall.


Heard it yesterday.:D And I just finished S2 yesterday. I think Chuck benefits greatly from tighter seasons, S2 got a bit too cartoony towards the end, but it's gonna be lots of fun in S3.

Agreed. In fact, I think this goes for most shows. I actually think 13 episodes seems to be the perfect amount.

[ETM]
10-29-2009, 04:05 PM
Who is Mo Ryan? Someone I should be reading? The only TV columnist I read is Alan Sepinwall.

Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune, "The Watcher". She's a maniac, I only need to keep up with her to stay up to date on the TV land's shenanigans. She's a HUGE Chuck fan, too, as well as Friday Night Lights, Mad Men and Supernatural, although the fact that she loves BSG too may not sit well with your tastes. The only thing she just doesn't "get" are totally male-oriented shows, but that's understandable.
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.c om/entertainment_tv/

Sepinwall is also great, she quotes him all the time both in columns and on Twitter.


I actually think 13 episodes seems to be the perfect amount.

Indeed. 12 or 13 max.

Hugh_Grant
10-29-2009, 06:27 PM
Sepinwall is awesome.

The Food Network show Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives just filmed a segment here in our little burg, so I got a few pics of Guy Fieri and his crazy 'do.

Kurosawa Fan
10-29-2009, 07:39 PM
Sepinwall is awesome.

The Food Network show Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives just filmed a segment here in our little burg, so I got a few pics of Guy Fieri and his crazy 'do.

Sepinwall is one of those guys that seems to always see things exactly like I do. It's kind of eerie at times.

What restaurant were they promoting? Somewhere you eat often? Did you get a picture with Fieri?

[ETM]
10-29-2009, 07:50 PM
Sepinwall is one of those guys that seems to always see things exactly like I do. It's kind of eerie at times.

Heh, except, again, he loved BSG. He sees it pretty much the same way I do, even hates the same stuff.

Kurosawa Fan
10-29-2009, 08:20 PM
;214271']Heh, except, again, he loved BSG. He sees it pretty much the same way I do, even hates the same stuff.

Well, he's not flawless (in his opinions matching with mine, just to clarify), but to be fair I don't hate BSG, I just found the flaws too distracting to continue. I'd rather watch other shows.

[ETM]
10-29-2009, 08:32 PM
I wish more people had that attitude. Most often, people who didn't like it for some reason have this compelling need to go to every single fan site and "educate" the fans in the error of their ways.

Kurosawa Fan
10-29-2009, 08:50 PM
Nah, it'd be a waste of my time. I can see why others enjoy it, it just wasn't for me.

Hugh_Grant
10-29-2009, 10:25 PM
What restaurant were they promoting? Somewhere you eat often? Did you get a picture with Fieri?

The local restaurant they picked was a very odd choice, especially considering the rest of the shortlist featured restaurants with unusual cuisines and/or a long history, two DDD traits. This one only recently opened, so I had never eaten there before, and serves Charleston cuisine, which is not all that unusual here in the Palmetto State.

I chickened out on the picture.

Thirdmango
10-30-2009, 12:49 AM
I watched the first season of No Heroics and really liked it. I want more people to watch it.

Also is it just me or are the characters and sets on It's Always Sunny much more physically dirty then they have been in past seasons? It's sorta grossing me out.

Mara
10-31-2009, 12:54 AM
Checking out a few more episodes of Castle because you guys seem to like it and I'm still sick. A few thoughts:

1. Fillion is far more charming than any one man has a right to be.

2. Beckett is beautiful, but I HATE her hair.

3. Castle's daughter is lovely and has gorgeous hair. She's going to be a heartbreaker in a few years.

number8
10-31-2009, 02:20 AM
2. Beckett is beautiful, but I HATE her hair.

She's a cop! She has no time for your girly girlness, girlie!

Mara
10-31-2009, 02:27 AM
She's a cop! She has no time for your girly girlness, girlie!

Yeah, it feels like they're going for "serious hair" but instead she had "mom hair." If they just clipped it evenly around her chin and smoothed it down so she looked less like a mushroom, it would be much cuter.

Kurosawa Fan
10-31-2009, 12:24 PM
Yeah, it feels like they're going for "serious hair" but instead she had "mom hair." If they just clipped it evenly around her chin and smoothed it down so she looked less like a mushroom, it would be much cuter.

Val hates it too. Complains about it every episode. She calls it a stylish mullet.

Mara
10-31-2009, 01:26 PM
I actually hate using the expression "mom hair." A really wonderful woman I know, when being left by her husband, had her "mom hair" listed as one of the reasons he wanted a divorce. Yeah, he was an asshole.

But, in this case, I think it's an appropriate term.

[ETM]
10-31-2009, 01:36 PM
I can understand her hair trouble, because of her Balkan origins... lots of women here have hair that is difficult to "tame". Especially with her also distinct bone structure.

Mara
10-31-2009, 01:51 PM
Given the number of professional hair stylists that the show employs, I'm sure they can give her something more flattering. Her bone structure is beautiful.

Look here, at what looks like a professional photo shoot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/stana_katic.jpg

They let some of her natural curl out, keep it soft and sexy, and pull it out of her face so you can see those eyes and cheeks.

Now, give her "cop hair":

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/Castle15.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/t8yv9743.jpg

She looks ten years older. No joke. The cut, especially the short pieces in the front, hit her face at exactly the wrong proportions, making her face look square and her head look boxy.

I'm also not a fan of the little bit of red they put in for the show. It washes her out a little bit. The more amber and chocolate tones in the first photo are much more complementary to her skin. In fact, if anything, I would go a shade darker and give her a very dark brunette, almost black. It would give her eye color more of a chance to pop.

Mara
10-31-2009, 03:21 PM
RE: Castle

Aw, the traditional sexual-tension-while-at-the-shooting-range ploy. Lots of excuse for touchy-touchy. West Wing did this well. Torchwood did it very, very well. But it's becoming a bit of a cliche.

Mara
11-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Aaand White Collar is pretty good, too. This is ridiculous. I'm watching too many shows already. I have to go back to work tomorrow, people!

EDIT: By the way, they are pouring money into this show. Those New York locations don't come cheap. And Neal's wardrobe is pretty snazzy.

Kurosawa Fan
11-01-2009, 11:23 PM
Val hates it too. Complains about it every episode. She calls it a stylish mullet.

Just realized that Mara isn't on season two, so this comment doesn't make sense yet. It will though. Her hair gets worse this season.

Mara
11-01-2009, 11:30 PM
Just realized that Mara isn't on season two, so this comment doesn't make sense yet. It will though. Her hair gets worse this season.

Actually, I caught up. (The first season was only, like, ten episodes long. It went fast.)

This season they are going for longer, not better. I'm really unclear why the hair stylists hate her so much. Whoever lights her legs, though, likes her quite a bit.

[ETM]
11-02-2009, 01:21 AM
This is ridiculous. I'm watching too many shows already. I have to go back to work tomorrow, people!

Tell me about it... I'm even watching some that aren't that good for one reason or the other.

Current (airing): Mad Men, Dexter, Castle, White Collar, 30Rock, FlashForward, Glee
Will resume shortly: Fringe, Dollhouse, Leverage
Will watch when they come back: Chuck, Breaking Bad, True Blood, Ashes to Ashes, Better off Ted, LOST, Eureka, Warehouse 13

I don't think I missed anything. It's ridiculous when you think about it - I download all of these every week, slap English and Montenegrin subtitles on them, and keep them on DVDs. I have friends with a lot of time who have all their favorite shows in HD. Before broadband was readily available, people used to download different stuff and exchange. A friend of mine from another forum bought the entire Babylon 5 series + films, and copied them for all of us who wanted them.

I don't know if this could be turned into a new distribution model somehow, but the networks are wasting a lot of time ignoring the entire world who are currently watching their shows in real time virtually for free. There is absolutely no money any more in selling the shows to foreign broadcasters after a certain window has passed, and same goes for DVD sales.

EyesWideOpen
11-02-2009, 04:00 AM
Dvd sales on tv shows are huge, that's how they make most of their money.

[ETM]
11-02-2009, 04:34 AM
Dvd sales on tv shows are huge, that's how they make most of their money.

...outside the US.

Mara
11-02-2009, 04:00 PM
I'm frightened to do a definitive list of what I'm watching/waiting to watch. Often I catch up on these shows on the internet during my lunch breaks or on the weekend.

WATCHING:
Mad Men (almost done for the season)
How I Met Your Mother
Glee
Project Runway
Supernatural
Friday Night Lights
30 Rock
The Office

MIGHT START WATCHING REGULARLY:
Castle
White Collar
V (?)

WILL WATCH WHEN THEY RETURN:
Lost
Better Off Ted
Dollhouse
Chuck
True Blood
Torchwood
Dr. Who

[ETM]
11-02-2009, 04:34 PM
Torchwood
Dr. Who

Can't believe I forgot these two. Yeah, definitely.

Raiders
11-02-2009, 04:58 PM
White Collar

It's a silly show for sure, but I'm finding it extremely charming. I'll keep going on it for now as well.


V

I'm definitely giving this at least one episode. Am I alone in not knowing anything about the original mini-series, TV-movie sequel and TV series, all starring Marc "Beastmaster" Singer?

Raiders
11-02-2009, 05:04 PM
Only shows I currently watch regularly are Castle, Fringe and when it returns, Chuck. Don't really have time for much else. I do have a thing for the cheesy USA network shows. I'm sure I'll watch Burn Notice when it kickstarts again and unless it grows tiresome, I'll keep tuning in for White Collar as I said above.

I'm going to wait for Lost to run its course, then go back and watch the whole series. I stopped mid-way third season, tried to catch up and ultimately gave up.

Mara
11-02-2009, 07:09 PM
In honor of White Collar, I'm rewatching How to Steal a Million.

Gee, Matthew Bomer and Audrey Hepburn would have some cute kids, huh? If she weren't dead and he weren't gay.

But imagine the eyes! Nobody ever lets me do cute match-ups unmolested.

[ETM]
11-02-2009, 08:53 PM
Wow, Bomer has kids. Also - Zachary Quinto too? Are there any straight people left in the business?

Mara
11-02-2009, 09:04 PM
;215044']Wow, Bomer has kids.

He does?

Also a quick google makes it look like the gay thing is a rumor, not confirmed. I thought he was out... so maybe, maybe not. Either way, he's got eyes to die for.

[ETM]
11-02-2009, 09:07 PM
He does?

Also a quick google makes it look like the gay thing is a rumor, not confirmed. I thought he was out... so maybe, maybe not. Either way, he's got eyes to die for.

Kids, I'm guessing adopted. Living with a guy.
It's actually been funny for the last few days - seems like he was "out" for a long time, while he was doing lower profile work. Now that he's in a possible hit, playing a guy who's popular with the ladies, all of a sudden it's "rumors". Ridiculous.

And yes, he has ridiculously striking eyes.

Thirdmango
11-02-2009, 11:03 PM
I'm definitely giving this at least one episode. Am I alone in not knowing anything about the original mini-series, TV-movie sequel and TV series, all starring Marc "Beastmaster" Singer?

My mother started asking me about this show and I initially thought it would be a V For Vendetta series cause I knew absolutely nothing about it. So I read up on it a little bit yesterday. Didn't know anything about the early versions of V. Had never really heard anyone talk about it either.

chrisnu
11-02-2009, 11:13 PM
Southland picked up by TNT! (http://snarkfood.com/nbc-cancelled-drama-southland-picked-up-by-tnt/35427/) At least we will get to see the unaired episodes. It's unclear whether more episodes will be ordered.

[ETM]
11-02-2009, 11:39 PM
It's unclear whether more episodes will be ordered.

It's highly unlikely. Unless there's some kind of miracle and the ratings go through the roof.

Mara
11-03-2009, 04:40 PM
Oh, sweet heaven. Watching last night's Castle and they're trying to right their hair sins with volume. Now she looks like Bouffant Barbie.

I am considering a tersely worded letter to ABC. Very terse.

Raiders
11-04-2009, 01:20 PM
I'm going to give V another episode because there's a lot of potential in the ideas floating around with mass delusion and the aliens using the media as their biggest ally. But, the storytelling and general flow was very second-rate in the first episode.

[ETM]
11-04-2009, 03:45 PM
I'm mostly in it because of the violence in the pilot. I was afraid they were going to dial it down a bit, but it shows promise. If the show "goes there" it can cover for quite a lot of mediocre writing.

Mara
11-04-2009, 07:02 PM
Veronica Mars season 2 has some... interesting... guest stars. Kevin Smith? Joss Whedon?

[ETM]
11-04-2009, 09:42 PM
Whoa... "V" ratings are through the roof... 13.9 million/5.0 18-49 demo.

Incidentally, the showrunner has quit... I wonder what happens next with it.

EDIT: It went up in the finals... 14.3 million/5.2 demo.

That's some homework for the following episodes.

Thirdmango
11-04-2009, 09:43 PM
My favorite moment of V

The black guy being a rebelling alien. That was a cool reveal, and so I'm curious where they'll go with it.

Lucky
11-04-2009, 11:26 PM
;215521']Incidentally, the showrunner has quit... I wonder what happens next with it.

What, why?

[ETM]
11-04-2009, 11:29 PM
What, why?

No idea... they just say the executive producer of Chuck is taking over, and he is not off the show, just not running it.

[ETM]
11-05-2009, 12:22 AM
Essentially, the former showrunner, Scott Peters, was previously running The 4400, while the new guy is Scott Rosenbaum, of The Shield and Chuck. That sounds very encouraging, actually. And one of the writers, Jeffrey Bell, is leaving. He was previously on Angel, Alias, Day Break and Harper's Island... yeah, not that impressive. I'm guessing the changes are for the better.

Acapelli
11-05-2009, 02:38 PM
speaking of television watching habits, i watch way too much, lot of crap too

edit: very little of the watching is done on an actual tv though

Acapelli
11-05-2009, 02:39 PM
;215119']It's highly unlikely. Unless there's some kind of miracle and the ratings go through the roof.
tnt is the home of the cop show, who knows, it might find success there

i remember watching the first episode and enjoying it, i should catch up

Mara
11-05-2009, 04:50 PM
Eeek! Charisma Carpenter and Alyson Hannigan are bitching at each other on Veronica Mars! It's Buffytastic!

If they'd had this scene in the same episode with the Joss Whedon cameo, the Whedonsphere would have imploded on itself.

Adam
11-06-2009, 04:27 AM
Screw 30 Rock for suddenly becoming so cringe-inducingly godawful. I loved you once, Liz Lemon

The Office is also dying, albeit much slower than 30 Rock. Tonight was actually pretty solid, though, if you throw out Dwight's subplot

Parks & Rec and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia are both very funny

The League kinda sucks

[ETM]
11-06-2009, 12:17 PM
This was an uneven, rushed and disjointed episode, but even so, you just can't beat getting Scorsese, Walken and Gottfried themselves to do the voice work.

EyesWideOpen
11-06-2009, 02:49 PM
30 Rock was my favorite comedy of the night followed closely by Parks and Recreation. The Office was ok but Parks has overtaken it in my opinion.

Mara
11-06-2009, 03:06 PM
;215896']This was an uneven, rushed and disjointed episode, but even so, you just can't beat getting Scorsese, Walken and Gottfried themselves to do the voice work.

Sorry-- episode of what?

[ETM]
11-06-2009, 04:17 PM
Sorry-- episode of what?

30Rock? I should have made it clearer.

Mara
11-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Catching up, and I'm going to go ahead and assure you that Supernatural was the best thing on last night. I'm laughing out loud during my lunch break and embarassing myself.

Dead & Messed Up
11-06-2009, 05:49 PM
30 Rock was my favorite comedy of the night followed closely by Parks and Recreation. The Office was ok but Parks has overtaken it in my opinion.

"That woman knows her way around a penis."

number8
11-06-2009, 07:55 PM
Catching up, and I'm going to go ahead and assure you that Supernatural was the best thing on last night. I'm laughing out loud during my lunch break and embarassing myself.

Is this the episode with the CSI: Miami spoof?

Mara
11-06-2009, 08:19 PM
Is this the episode with the CSI: Miami spoof?

Yeah, they riffed on Grey's Anatomy, Japanese game shows, Herpes commercials, sitcoms, CSI, and Knight Rider.

One of the reoccuring villians on the show is a Trickster, a demi-god like Loki or Hermes, who likes to mess with people who are too big for their britches, and so he's toyed with our boys before. In this particular episode, he's trying to teach them an episode about "accepting your role" by making them have to role-play in different television scenarios in order to escape. It could have just been goofy, but they tied it into this season's meta-story quite nicely.

EDIT: If you want a non-spoilery tidbit, they redid the show's credits as sitcom credits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwZYdFlgw4

number8
11-06-2009, 08:21 PM
I liked how they had the ME suck on a lollipop as he examines the body. For some reason that encapsulates what's wrong with police procedurals to me.

Mara
11-06-2009, 08:23 PM
I liked how they had the ME suck on a lollipop as he examines the body. For some reason that encapsulates what's wrong with police procedurals to me.

At one point, he taps the body's stab wound with the sucker, and then sticks it back in his mouth. Good times.

Malickfan
11-07-2009, 01:06 AM
Anyone interested in buying a Dick Towel?

http://dicktowel.com/

megladon8
11-08-2009, 10:23 PM
I dug out my full series box set of "Strangers With Candy".

I love that show.

MadMan
11-09-2009, 07:12 AM
I finally purchased Season 3 of 24 on sale at Target for only $13 last week. Now I own seasons 1-4, and while I may eventually buy Season 5 (and possibly Season 7), I have to try and avoid owning Season 6. Despite the completist in me telling me I must have it, despite the fact its the worst season in the show's history.

Thirdmango
11-09-2009, 03:39 PM
I only and will probably only own season 5, which hurts the completist in me too, but to me it's the only season really worth owning.

Kurosawa Fan
11-10-2009, 02:06 AM
Watched V tonight. Not impressed. The concept is cool, but much like FlashForward, the execution was awful. The performances were beyond bad, even from actors I normally enjoy, but I can't blame them. The dialogue was reprehensible. A cut and paste job of the worst order. The entire thing was silly and rushed. Odd enough, I'm going to stick it out for a couple episodes just to see if it improves because I think the concept is that intriguing. Plus the fact that the creator was replaced (or something along those lines). Maybe his replacements can salvage something out of that mess.

[ETM]
11-10-2009, 02:13 AM
Plus the fact that the creator was replaced (or something along those lines). Maybe his replacements can salvage something out of that mess.

I think Rosenbaum took over at the break. He promised when it was announced that he took over that from episode 4 onward "it takes a huge turn and will blow our minds". I don't know, people loved The Shield, and I really enjoy Chuck, so he has a positive track record. I'll wait it out.

Kurosawa Fan
11-10-2009, 02:38 AM
;216840']I think Rosenbaum took over at the break. He promised when it was announced that he took over that from episode 4 onward "it takes a huge turn and will blow our minds". I don't know, people loved The Shield, and I really enjoy Chuck, so he has a positive track record. I'll wait it out.

The concept is promising enough that I'll roll with it too. In the right hands, the series could be epic.

B-side
11-10-2009, 07:55 AM
Anyone interested in buying a Dick Towel?

http://dicktowel.com/

:lol::lol:

I'm gonna get me some kitten mittens, too.

Mara
11-10-2009, 05:54 PM
Better episode of Castle this week. (Last week was pretty lame.) But they have a really awkward, obvious way of looping dialogue that needs to be fixed.

This week was funny and interesting, though. Loved the shots of the detectives drinking tea and petting cats. Beckett and Castle disagreeing on whether or not they were together "yet." Grandma discovering social networking.

And the supporting cast! Duck from Mad Men! Gregg Henry! Good stuff.

Kurosawa Fan
11-10-2009, 06:06 PM
Yeah, last week really sucked. Glad to hear this week was better. I'll probably watch it tonight.

Mara
11-10-2009, 06:25 PM
Yeah, last week really sucked. Glad to hear this week was better. I'll probably watch it tonight.

The mystery isn't anything spectacular, but the character moments are nice.

Last week the only decent moment was Castle speculating how his daughter would be the best suspect for the case-- "she's peripheral, and nobody would suspect her!"

Other than that.... bleh.

number8
11-10-2009, 06:30 PM
I really hate the dialogue in this week's episode.

"You thinking what I'm thinking?"
"Yep. We've got a lot of suspects."

No shit.

Mara
11-10-2009, 06:31 PM
I really hate the dialogue in this week's episode.

"You thinking what I'm thinking?"
"Yep. We've got a lot of suspects."

No shit.

That was a particularly stupid moment.

Kurosawa Fan
11-10-2009, 06:32 PM
The mystery isn't anything spectacular, but the character moments are nice.

Last week the only decent moment was Castle speculating how his daughter would be the best suspect for the case-- "she's peripheral, and nobody would suspect her!"

Other than that.... bleh.

Yep, that was funny. But yeah, what a corny episode. Especially that final shot at the concert. *gag*

In other news, I've been pretty disappointed with the second and third episodes of White Collar. It seems to have misplaced that snappy fun spirit, and instead feels kind of sluggish and rote.

Kurosawa Fan
11-10-2009, 07:24 PM
All that said, Ms. Theissen is preggers in real life, so I wonder if they'll write that into the show. Or, mercifully, kill her off.

Fixed.

Raiders
11-10-2009, 08:32 PM
Fixed.

:|

I like the home-life stuff. They just need to not involve her at all in the investigations. I like the dichotomy between his in-control work environment and his befuddlement at home.

Kurosawa Fan
11-10-2009, 09:03 PM
:|

I like the home-life stuff. They just need to not involve her at all in the investigations. I like the dichotomy between his in-control work environment and his befuddlement at home.

I wouldn't mind the character if Thiessen could act even just a little bit. She is so god awful I can't stand it.

Mara
11-11-2009, 04:32 PM
I'm still plugging away at Veronica Mars, which is fairly charming, but I'm sometimes annoyed by the preposterous plot twists.

Sometimes I think the most impressive thing about the show is that a teeny-tiny little blonde baby doll with a voice like a tweenybopper inhaling helium balloons is somehow talented enough of an actress to pull off "badass."

Raiders
11-11-2009, 04:55 PM
Anyone still watching "Modern Family?" It is vastly better than I expected. Probably the biggest surprise this whole season.

[ETM]
11-11-2009, 04:59 PM
teeny-tiny little blonde baby doll with a voice like a tweenybopper inhaling helium balloons is somehow

I find Bell's voice extremely sexy.

Kurosawa Fan
11-11-2009, 05:03 PM
Anyone still watching "Modern Family?" It is vastly better than I expected. Probably the biggest surprise this whole season.

Right now it's funnier than anything on TV, with the exception of It's Always Sunny. My wife and I always want to watch it as soon as it airs.

Mara
11-11-2009, 05:04 PM
;217163']I find Bell's voice extremely sexy.

Squeaky!

Don't get me wrong, I think she's totally cute. She's like a person, only smaller.

[ETM]
11-11-2009, 05:09 PM
Torchwood planning fourth season (http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/torchwood-planning-fourth-season-3168.html)

Raiders
11-11-2009, 05:10 PM
She's like a person, only smaller.

And hotter.

Mara
11-11-2009, 05:21 PM
;217169']Torchwood planning fourth season (http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/torchwood-planning-fourth-season-3168.html)

I assumed, but you can never be sure when those funny British people will get around to doing something.

Man, the people in the comments hate Gwen. I love Gwen. I mean, she's no Ianto, but who is?

[ETM]
11-11-2009, 05:48 PM
Man, the people in the comments hate Gwen. I love Gwen. I mean, she's no Ianto, but who is?

I really like Gwen, I always did. I love how genuine her and Rhys feel, they're awesome together. Especially in CoE.

Mara
11-11-2009, 06:01 PM
When I first started watching I thought there was no way they'd keep Rhys around. The shlubby long-term boyfriend tends to be shunted to the side when you join a secret gang of super-hot alien hunters.

But I grew fond of him as time went on, and I was genuinely pissed off when Gwen cheated on with Owen. (Bad Gwen! No cookie!)

By "Something Borrowed" I was firmly on Team Williams. They're a great couple.

Mara
11-11-2009, 06:07 PM
Hmm, some quick research shows that the writers used to think along the same lines. Apparently, Rhys was slated to die at the end of season 1.

"Russell (T Davies) gave him a reprieve. He realised that, if we lost Rhys, we would lose Gwen’s heart. He is one of the key things that makes her character so fantastic, and by extension the entire show. With Rhys there, it’s a show about real people dealing with extraordinary situations in the real world. Without him, it simply becomes a sci-fi show about sci-fi people, running around and hunting aliens." --Richard Stokes

"There was a discussion early, early on in season one about what would happen to Gwen’s partner Rhys and there was a discussion about in the course of some investigation he should die. Nothing was ever written but it was out there in back of our heads and then you start to see them together and you (realize that) actually (Gwen would) never recover from this. It would be a bridge too far - she wouldn’t choose a job over him in that circumstance. She would have blamed Torchwood forever. She would have taken herself away. I’m glad that relationship is still intact. It’s a show where you’ve got to contrast the ordinary everyday with the extraordinary and (with) Gwen going home to Rhys and then going to work in an underground secret base... it's right to have that balance."-- Julie Gardner

Mara
11-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Dollhouse is done. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ibd4c93af8a3194fa8f32bc3b11c 6126a) At least, though, they're going to air the remaining episodes, and Joss says it will go out with a bang.

number8
11-12-2009, 12:59 AM
RIP

http://blogs.dixcdn.com/leftofcybercenter/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/dollhouse.jpg

[ETM]
11-12-2009, 07:25 AM
The malevolence with which some people are gloating over the cancellation online is astounding. I can't believe words "misogynistic" and "rape" are still being thrown around. I get baited into commenting far too often.

Mara
11-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Um... do they watch the show?

[ETM]
11-12-2009, 02:34 PM
Um... do they watch the show?

It doesn't matter. It's the same people who keep yapping about the "Whedon cult", "Whorehouse", "failure after failure", yadda yadda.

EvilShoe
11-12-2009, 02:35 PM
;217429']It doesn't matter. It's the same people who keep yapping about the "Whedon cult", "Whorehouse", "failure after failure", yadda yadda.Do you want me to talk to their parents?

Mara
11-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Do you want me to talk to their parents?

Could you? Tell them we're not angry, just disappointed.

dreamdead
11-12-2009, 03:17 PM
Finished the first four episodes of Deadwood. It is magnifico.

Adam
11-12-2009, 03:22 PM
Wow, I'm jealous of anybody who gets to watch the run of Deadwood fresh. The second season is maybe my favorite season of any tv show, ever. But honestly you can kind of stop watching after those first 24 episodes

EvilShoe
11-12-2009, 03:36 PM
Could you? Tell them we're not angry, just disappointed.
Done!

Those kids won't be bothering you anymore, ETM.

Qrazy
11-12-2009, 04:34 PM
So like Firefly will Dollhouse be worth watching after the fact? I suppose I shouldn't ask this until it's finished airing.

number8
11-12-2009, 04:49 PM
Dollhouse is Joss Whedon's best work. There, I said it.

[ETM]
11-12-2009, 05:05 PM
There, I said it.

You sure did.

Mara
11-12-2009, 05:07 PM
Dollhouse is Joss Whedon's best work. There, I said it.

I would say that the best Dollhouse episodes are up there with his best other work, yes.

[ETM]
11-12-2009, 05:18 PM
I would say that the best Dollhouse episodes are up there with his best other work, yes.

Agreed.

Mara
11-12-2009, 05:26 PM
Big talk from a couple of non-Buffy watchers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/buffy_stab.jpg

Mara
11-12-2009, 05:39 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FOUND HORRIBLE THINGS WHILE SEARCHING FOR THAT PICTURE!


BUFFY TATTOO ART!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_1_468.jpg
Lessee... Spike and Dru (?) on the left, Angel (?) on the right, Buffy, Giles in the middle (as he should be), Willow, Xander, some demon-y thing, and "Death is Your Gift."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_3_468.jpg
I don't know what this is. What is this?
EDIT: It's Faith's arm tattoo. That took me quite awhile.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_2_468.jpg
"Every Night I Save You"-- line that Spike says to Buffy in the first episode of Season Six. Sad moment, actually.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_4_468.jpg
The Mark of Eyghon-- an excellent idea if you want to draw the demon near to turn you to mush. Good job, genius.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_5_468.jpg
I somehow doubt Buffy will appreciate being paired with a Harry Potter villianess. Also, I don't think tattoos get nerdier than this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_6_468.jpg
Mutant Enemy. Grr! Argh!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_7_468.jpg
Five by five... Faith's nonsensical catchphrase.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_8_468.jpg
Angel's tattoo. I think it's supposed to be a bird. Did anyone ever tell us why Angel has a bird tattoo?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/27717_9_468.jpg
Looks brunette. Must be Faith.

number8
11-12-2009, 05:41 PM
Speaking of Buffy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwM3GvaTRM

Mara
11-12-2009, 05:53 PM
Speaking of Buffy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwM3GvaTRM

Hey, that's pretty good editing!

Mara
11-12-2009, 05:58 PM
More...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/ArabellaElfie-s-Spuffy-Tattoo-buffy.jpg
*snicker* There's a freckle on Spike's forehead.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/jesper.jpg
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S HIDEOUS

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/emma.jpg
Angel Investigation Logo

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/julie.jpg
It's a railroad spike. Get it? Get it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/spike1.jpg
Spike in vamp mode: not hot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/cass.jpg
Sign of the Knights of Byzantium. Scraping the bottom of the fanboy barrel, are we?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/jennifer.jpg
Is... Buffy staking herself?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/buffyfan.jpg
Hey, it's like that other one! Only uglier!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/rachel2.jpg
Angel in vamp mode: also not hot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/callyspike.jpg
Nothing but cheekbone.

Mara
11-12-2009, 06:02 PM
But just so you know that not just Buffy fans are insane...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/483DC652BD6CAE04D6875D84D57FAC 0B.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/Serenity.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/672E0FB8A38054463EB27084F02C78 0B.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/2404351797_0b6483d983.jpg

Mara
11-12-2009, 06:42 PM
See, now I'm so nostalgic that I'm rewatching Buffy Season 1 on Hulu. For funsies.

Mara
11-12-2009, 07:05 PM
See, now I'm so nostalgic that I'm rewatching Buffy Season 1 on Hulu. For funsies.

Aw... sweet, buttoned-up, nervous Willow is so cute.

Mara
11-12-2009, 07:08 PM
Charisma has really nice breasts.

Mara
11-12-2009, 07:14 PM
This show suffered a little by having real-life actors playing ageless vampires. Because, frankly, they aged A LOT over seven years.

[ETM]
11-12-2009, 08:07 PM
Charisma has really nice breasts.

Yes, she had them augmented.

Mara
11-12-2009, 08:20 PM
;217518']Yes, she had them augmented.

Really? Because they don't look fake at all. Maybe just a good job.

megladon8
11-12-2009, 08:36 PM
Amy Sedaris may be one of my favorite female comedians ever.

"Strangers With Candy" is glorious.

[ETM]
11-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Really? Because they don't look fake at all. Maybe just a good job.

She had them done at some point. They looked fine to me before, too, but alas.

Lucky
11-12-2009, 11:27 PM
I would say that the best Dollhouse episodes are up there with his best other work, yes.

I agree as well. It's too wildly inconsistent to be Whedon's best work. And comparing it to a seven-year opus like Buffy is like comparing a sapling to a great oak. Dollhouse didn't have time to mature.

Mara
11-12-2009, 11:39 PM
I agree as well. It's too wildly inconsistent to be Whedon's best work. And comparing it to a seven-year opus like Buffy is like comparing a sapling to a great oak. Dollhouse didn't have time to mature.

Excellent point.

number8
11-12-2009, 11:41 PM
Really? Because they don't look fake at all. Maybe just a good job.

An expensive Hollywood plastic surgeon can usually get you really good-looking boobs that don't look fake.

Mara
11-12-2009, 11:51 PM
An expensive Hollywood plastic surgeon can usually get you really good-looking boobs that don't look fake.

Yeah, if you go cheap, you end up looking like Tara Reid.

I think Charisma kept them in good proportion with the rest of her body, which is why they look so nice.

Adam
11-13-2009, 02:36 AM
Solid night for televised comedy. I missed Parks and Rec but Sunny, The Office and 30 Rock were all good-to-great

30 Rock still needs to break up Jenna & Tracy and trim Kenneth's role, though

Kurosawa Fan
11-13-2009, 02:38 AM
Solid night for televised comedy. I missed Parks and Rec but Sunny, The Office and 30 Rock were all good-to-great

30 Rock still needs to break up Jenna & Tracy and trim Kenneth's role, though

I still love Jenna and Tracy, but I'm with you all the way on Kenneth. Sick to death of him, and his various cameos as other people when the show strays from the confines of the building.

Adam
11-13-2009, 02:39 AM
Yeah, I like the characters of Jenna and Tracy, and they did get off some funny lines tonight, but for whatever reason when they sorta "team up" like they did in this episode, they become a lot more lame

Lucky
11-13-2009, 03:56 AM
I'm starting to really like Andy and Erin. They're the next best thing since Jim and Pam.

MadMan
11-13-2009, 04:42 AM
I'm starting to really like Andy and Erin. They're the next best thing since Jim and Pam.At first Erin kind of annoyed me, but she won me over. I'm now firmly all for Erin and Andy hooking up. They're be a great couple.

And tonight's episode of The Office was hilarious. Funniest one they've given us in quite a while. The Southern accents were great, and I liked Creed's reaction to what Michael told him. Plus Dwight kicking his own ass was awesome.

Winston*
11-13-2009, 06:27 AM
I watched an episode of Glee. I don't understand this show, are the characters supposed to be singing or lip syncing?

Adam
11-13-2009, 08:30 AM
Ed Helms has sneakily had the best character on The Office for like 3 years now