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Sven
12-02-2007, 04:15 AM
I'm currently movieless (my little bro is in the process of shipping all my DVDs to me), so for the last little bit, I've been listening to a lot of pop and going "Hmmm..." So I'll crank through this list pretty quickly, I think, while I'm waiting for my movies (and hopefully get back on my long dormant Herzog project!).

I dig pop. I dig stuff that makes you dance. Catchy beats, simple harmonies, easily understood rhymes. I'm a populist at heart, despite my occasional attempts at snootiness, so I like music that everyone can groove with. While I love a good experimental chord progression and a pounding 8 minute long drum solo and lyrics about cosmic, mystic, or otherwise enchanting ethereal forces, mostly I love to get down and funky with something for everyone. This list is populated with songs that I hope all are familiar with.

You'll definitely notice trends. My weaknesses will show. You'll notice what eras and "scenes" I jive best with. These are the first 22 songs I was able to think of, so this feature is by no means definitive. They are ranked in rough preference.

To that end, I shall begin the list. When I can, I will post album art and a link to something featuring the song so you can hear it.

I have two honorable mentions, coming up.

Sven
12-02-2007, 04:37 AM
HONORABLE MENTION 1

Yes - Owner of a Lonely Heart

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/Yes/90125.jpg

The weird double-take video. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rV17bZa-PTs&feature=related)

An obvious choice, given my love for Yes's more progressive work, I, unlike many Yes purists, accept and actually quite like Trevor Rabin's contribution to the band in the 80s. Lots of heavy guitar riffs, radio friendly durations, and lyrics eschewing their patented pretentiousness. 90125 is as close to arena-rock as Yes ever got (the instrumental "Cinema" is a miracle of echoing grandiosity), and "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is a great example of this creative period. The extremely simple and infinitely recognizable riff is toyed with by the synths and drums between phrases, Anderson's voice has rarely wailed so magnificently. And while the chorus may feel a little lacking, its that jolt of tight funky guitar that hops in directly afterward the second round and accompanies Anderson as he sings "After my own indecision/They confused me so/My love said 'Never question your will at all'/In the end you've gotta go/Look before you leap/And don't hesitate at all" that really sells me on this one.

Sven
12-02-2007, 05:07 AM
HONORABLE MENTION 2

ABBA - Dancing Queen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/Dancing_Queen_That27s_Me.jpg

Witness the sexy (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7GFpMb0sOaw)

This one needs very little defense. If I had my druthers, this would've made the top 22. Alas, where'd I put those darn druthers? This song proves nothing if not that Swedes are awesome and sexy and write great tunes. The beat is so killer! This song makes me want to hug people and I love songs that make me want to hug people.

D_Davis
12-02-2007, 05:14 AM
Honarable Mention 2

ABBA - Dancing Queen



Wait a second. You're making a list of the best pop songs and this is only an honorable mention? Are you mad?

This is easily top 5 material. ABBA's hit singles are amazing.

Nice thread!

Sven
12-02-2007, 05:24 AM
Wait a second. You're making a list of the best pop songs and this is only an honorable mention? Are you mad?

You wanna know the nasty, vile truth?

I had already made the list when this song occurred to me.

Really, the 24 featured songs here are equal in terms of my appreciation of them. I've just about had it with ranking minutia. I'm not in that kind of lifestyle at the moment. Just give me a handful of things that are awesome and I'll call it good. :)

More to come tomorrow.

Justin
12-02-2007, 05:50 AM
HONORABLE MENTION 2

ABBA - Dancing Queen

When I went to the Flaming Lips concert they played this right before they went on stage, it was awesome. The whole crowd was singing.

Spinal
12-02-2007, 05:52 AM
Two for two so far.

Mysterious Dude
12-02-2007, 05:54 AM
I like "Waterloo" better. I'm so gay.

Derek
12-02-2007, 05:57 AM
"Owner of a Lonely Heart" is okay, but come on, 90125 is a terrible album. It's kinda depressing that it came from the same band capable of Close to the Edge and The Yes Album.

No complaints about "Dancing Queen", except that for some odd reason it always makes me sad.

Horbgorbler
12-02-2007, 02:21 PM
I think "Gimme, Gimme, Gimme (A Man After Midnight)" might be my favorite ABBA tune. Make of that what you will.

D_Davis
12-02-2007, 02:37 PM
No complaints about "Dancing Queen", except that for some odd reason it always makes me sad.

After you watch Meriel's Wedding, ABBA's songs kind of take on a different tone.

D_Davis
12-02-2007, 02:38 PM
You wanna know the nasty, vile truth?

I had already made the list when this song occurred to me.


Okay - I forgive you! ;)

Sven
12-02-2007, 03:18 PM
"Owner of a Lonely Heart" is okay, but come on, 90125 is a terrible album. It's kinda depressing that it came from the same band capable of Close to the Edge and The Yes Album.

I disagree. I've seen this opinion voiced so many times (OMG, crappy 80s synth pop coming from the band of beautiful progressive inner-journeys!) that sometimes I start thinking something must be wrong with me. But then I listen to it and I realize that no. It's not me. It's you. The music is different, certainly, but taken on its own, it's totally solid. A little corny, maybe, but definitely interesting.

Ezee E
12-02-2007, 03:19 PM
Looking forward to this.

Sven
12-02-2007, 03:54 PM
#22 - Beck - Where It's At

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/odelay.jpg

Bottles and cans and clap your hands (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5uQ9W4KexnA)

The perfect combination of Beck's funk, laid back rapping, free association lyrics, and experimental techniquery. Like many of Beck's songs, I don't know what this song's about beyond Beck's usual attempts to crystallize music into pure, usually dance-worthy, form. I love the opening keyboard riffs, but I love it more when the hip-hop drums and gospel organ kick in, but I love it even more when Beck starts singing about that "Destination a little up the road from the habitations and the towns we know" where one can witness the jigsaw jazz and get fresh flow. Fun stuff, Beck.

jesse
12-02-2007, 04:54 PM
I like "Waterloo" better. I'm so gay. You say this like it's a bad thing. Own it.


I think "Gimme, Gimme, Gimme (A Man After Midnight)" might be my favorite ABBA tune. Make of that what you will. It's my favorite too. :)

Derek
12-02-2007, 06:45 PM
I disagree. I've seen this opinion voiced so many times (OMG, crappy 80s synth pop coming from the band of beautiful progressive inner-journeys!) that sometimes I start thinking something must be wrong with me. But then I listen to it and I realize that no. It's not me. It's you. The music is different, certainly, but taken on its own, it's totally solid. A little corny, maybe, but definitely interesting.

Does thoroughly mediocre 80s synth pop fit you any better? ;) But trust me, this time it is you. It's more than a little corny, it's embarrassingly corny, yet bland and forgettable.

Great pick with "Where It's At" though!

dreamdead
12-02-2007, 07:04 PM
Beyond my confusion over a Top 22 list starting with #23 (Schumacher reference?), I'm on board for this list. Also on board with the quality of Beck's song.

Sven
12-02-2007, 07:29 PM
Beyond my confusion over a Top 22 list starting with #23 ...

:nervous chuckle:

D_Davis
12-02-2007, 10:23 PM
Hey man,

Have you ever listened to Too Much Joy, specifically the song "Crush Story," from the Cereal Killers album?

Boner M
12-03-2007, 03:05 AM
Hmm, I think "The New Pollution" is probably the best from Odelay, and one of the best things to play on commercial radio in the 90's.

Sven
12-03-2007, 04:50 AM
Hey man,

Have you ever listened to Too Much Joy, specifically the song "Crush Story," from the Cereal Killers album?

Nope. Not ringing a bell. I'll keep an ear out.


Hmm, I think "The New Pollution" is probably the best from Odelay, and one of the best things to play on commercial radio in the 90's.

It's awesome. But I find it inferior to Where It's At, as it's a little too drony at times. But I love that opening bit.

Sven
12-03-2007, 04:58 AM
#21 - Fleetwood Mac - Say You Love Me

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/5.jpg

Youtube video! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5uN9bTRDOtk)

Actually, this entry is more or less representative of this song, You Make Loving Fun, and Go Your Own Way. All demonstrate Fleetwood Mac's uncanny technical proficiency. Perfect mixes, straightforward production, functionality. These three songs deliver on their respective promises with stellar instrumentations and dulcet vocals, but this song in particular is the most pleasant, maybe the most optimistic in a bundle of optimistic songs. How can you hate Fleetwood? "You move me until the sun comes up/And you say that you love me." Gives me warm fuzzies.

Edited: for double instance of a cool word

Sven
12-03-2007, 05:29 AM
#20 - Pilot - Magic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/pilot7.jpg

Can you feel the magic? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nwORvuPXlNw&feature=related)

Magic: this delicious song starts off with a jaunty guitar solo accompanied by overdriven wah-wah scrumptiousness, then implodes into a beautiful airy piano accompaniment to a voice that believes, transparently, with all his heart, that what he's singing about is magic. This tension-implosion-flight structure is key to this song, which repeats it over and over, and somehow it works every time. So catchy, so bouncy. It's even kind enough to throw in some rosy "la la la"-ing for no extra cost. Nothing imported, this song is pure, delirious 70s kitsch and that's precisely why I love it.

Spinal
12-03-2007, 05:43 AM
Two more winners. Particularly the Fleetwood Mac. I would probably give the edge to "Go Your Own Way", but this is definitely a goodie. I'm also a big "Landslide" fan.

D_Davis
12-03-2007, 01:23 PM
Nope. Not ringing a bell. I'll keep an ear out.


Yeah, check out Too Much Joy's album Cereal Killers. They're kind of a joke rock band, but they are really good. The song "Crush Story" is an amazing pop song - one of my all time favorites.

And speaking of pop, I really hope we will be seeing some Pet Shop Boys on this list. Probably my favorite modern pop band. Perhaps, "Being Boring," or "My October Symphony"?

I am not a fan, at all, of Fleetwood Mac, and I've never listened to Pilot. I'll check them out.

Lucky
12-03-2007, 04:22 PM
Two more winners. Particularly the Fleetwood Mac. I would probably give the edge to "Go Your Own Way", but this is definitely a goodie. I'm also a big "Landslide" fan.

Definitely. I think "Landslide" is their best song, but I don't think it's a clear label for a traditional pop song. I think iosis made a good choice.

bac0n
12-03-2007, 07:30 PM
Crush Story is the official song of the summer of 1991. Jesus, the alternative radio station used to play that song all the time. Nonetheless, the thought of it brings back some happy memories.

D_Davis
12-03-2007, 07:34 PM
Crush Story is the official song of the summer of 1991. Jesus, the alternative radio station used to play that song all the time. Nonetheless, the thought of it brings back some happy memories.

Yep. As popular as this song was across the college campuses of America, Too Much Joy never really got the commercial success I think they deserved. They are often, wrongly, classified as "jock rock," which just isn't true. The first song on the album name checks Catcher in the Rye, and while some of their songs do include sophomoric humor, songs like "Beer" and "Long Haired Guys From England," they also contain some awesome lyrics and incredible melodies.

I also wouldn't mind seeing some Camper Van Beethoven on this list, Take The Skinheads Bowling is a pop masterpiece.

Sven
12-04-2007, 01:01 AM
#19 - Cat Stevens - Peace Train

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/AlbumCovers-Cat-Stevens-Teaser-and-.jpg

A killer live version (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hrbwhs2OM_w)

Who has a soft spot for spunky pop stars who croon about holding hands in a mosaic of peace and love for all mankind? Well, that would be me. I can think of maybe only three or four rock/folk singer-songwriters I prefer to Stevens, and this isn't my favorite song, but it's undeniably catchy, good-hearted, and wonderful. Nobody strums like this cat. I love it when he gets all ferocious and growly.

For another awesome song about trains and feeling good, check this out (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eEUKW99ohuw).

Sven
12-04-2007, 01:02 AM
I also wouldn't mind seeing some Camper Van Beethoven on this list, Take The Skinheads Bowling is a pop masterpiece.

Here, I will disappoint. I am sadly Camper Van Lacking.

D_Davis
12-04-2007, 01:04 AM
Here, I will disappoint. I am sadly Camper Van Lacking.

That's cool - it is your list, after all!

Good choice with Cat Stevens. The soundtrack to Harold and Maude is one of the best, me thinks.

Sven
12-04-2007, 02:03 AM
The soundtrack to Harold and Maude is one of the best, me thinks.

Ummm... hello rep!

Sycophant
12-04-2007, 02:22 AM
#22 - Beck - Where It's At

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/odelay.jpg
It still weirds me out to see you expressing appreciation for music made in the last thirty years.

I've never really looked into this Beck bloke. Perhaps I'll start here.

Of course, wonderful call with Cat Stevens.

Spinal
12-04-2007, 02:27 AM
Love me some Cat Stevens. "Oh Very Young" is probably my favorite. Also enjoy the hell out of "Wild World" and "Morning Has Broken".

Sven
12-04-2007, 02:28 AM
"Morning Has Broken".

The little piano bridge in this one is a favorite riff of mine. Beautiful.

Sven
12-04-2007, 04:01 PM
#18 - Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/077779174324_68384.jpg

I love these guys' music videos (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hy5iQubfV5s)

Anyone who knows me knows that I think The Beastie Boys are pretty lame. But over time, this lameness has alchemized into a rather endearing quality with me. Skinny Jewish white boys rapping about "the ladies"... it's so hilarious. Plus, the funky beat is legitimately funky, and there's a cowbell. I love this song!

Justin
12-04-2007, 04:10 PM
Easily one of my favorite beats from a Beastie Boys song. Great pick.

D_Davis
12-04-2007, 04:37 PM
Awesome pick from the B-Boys. Great band, great album, great song.

Sven
12-04-2007, 04:45 PM
Awesome pick from the B-Boys. Great band, great album, great song.

I'm determined to listen to them again, as my appreciation of what they offer has blossomed only within the last 6-12 months. I've heard pretty much all their stuff already (my older sister was a huge fan), but now I want to revisit it all. I recently listened to Paul's Boutique and it's pretty fun.

Raiders
12-04-2007, 04:55 PM
Cat Stevens?

I am afraid I will have to close down this thread as it is clearly supports the terrorist threat.

Horbgorbler
12-04-2007, 05:30 PM
I vastly prefer "Shake Your Rump"; I'm pretty shocked to see it was relegated to B-side status.

Sven
12-04-2007, 05:52 PM
#17 - America - Ventura Highway

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/to%20be%20resized/America/68851.jpg

Forget the video, listen to the song (http://youtube.com/watch?v=83mnMD8JEFs)

I was gonna go all iososy and represent these guys with Horse With No Name (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LDL02th72u4), because despite the song's meager (to say the least) reputation, I love how much mileage they score with just two notes. But this song is much better and much more personal to me. There's a certain something in everyone, I hypothesize, that is drawn towards this kind of folk (corny lyrics and "doo-doo-doo"s), as much as they like to fight it. This song's (and indeed, Horse With No Name's as well) feeling of transience, supplied by its reverberative sound and constant brisk strumming, speaks to the hippie in everyone. And while America may be sub-CSN, they can still kick out that three-part harmony better than most.

Kurosawa Fan
12-04-2007, 05:56 PM
iosos, you are a master of the pop song. I'm impressed. Most of these songs are songs I own and listen to often, while the others are songs that always bring a smile to my face when I catch them on the radio or on TV. Kudos to you sir.

Sven
12-04-2007, 05:57 PM
Cat Stevens?

I am afraid I will have to close down this thread as it is clearly supports the terrorist threat.

On a similar note, I've listened to some of Yusuf Islam's stuff and it's surprisingly awesome, especially his last album, An Other Cup (where he covers some Cat stuff in a very beautiful way).

Sven
12-04-2007, 06:04 PM
iosos, you are a master of the pop song. I'm impressed. Most of these songs are songs I own and listen to often, while the others are songs that always bring a smile to my face when I catch them on the radio or on TV. Kudos to you sir.

Thanks! I've never been the master of anything. It feels good! But you may want to reserve that compliment 'til the list is done, because I've got a few up my sleeve that may make me a few enemies.

No, My Humps is not on the list.

Oh, and don't tell Raiders or Spinal, but...

this list is completely Beatles-free.

D_Davis
12-04-2007, 06:16 PM
I'm determined to listen to them again, as my appreciation of what they offer has blossomed only within the last 6-12 months. I've heard pretty much all their stuff already (my older sister was a huge fan), but now I want to revisit it all. I recently listened to Paul's Boutique and it's pretty fun.

I think Hello Nasty is their masterpiece, and one of hip hop's crowning achievements.

Spinal
12-04-2007, 06:18 PM
#17 - America - Ventura Highway

This is the first one that I'm not really feeling. But that's OK. Just not my style.

Raiders
12-04-2007, 06:27 PM
Oh, and don't tell Raiders or Spinal, but...

this list is completely Beatles-free.

I don't mean to sound too fanboy-ish, but is that really even possible? The only defense for this is the intentional eschewing of obvious selections.

Derek
12-04-2007, 06:38 PM
#17 - America - Ventura Highway

Good choice here, though I would've supported you more with "Horse With No Name". Come on, bongos > no bongos. :)

Kurosawa Fan
12-04-2007, 07:14 PM
I think Hello Nasty is their masterpiece, and one of hip hop's crowning achievements.

Based on my limited experience with that album when it was initially released, I have to say, you're nuts. I'm still in awe of how craptacular Hello Nasty was. I haven't listened to it since the first year it came out, and I don't plan to listen to it anytime soon, but boy was it bad.


I don't mean to sound too fanboy-ish, but is that really even possible? The only defense for this is the intentional eschewing of obvious selections.

It's completely possible. Would you like me to make a follow up list to prove it?

Justin
12-04-2007, 08:07 PM
I think Hello Nasty is their masterpiece, and one of hip hop's crowning achievements.

I think Paul's Boutique, Ill Communication, and Hello Nasty are all equally great. It just depends on my mood as to which one I listen to.

Sven
12-04-2007, 09:14 PM
#16 - T. Rex - Get it On (Bang a Gong)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/electricwarrior.jpg

Speaking of songs based on two notes... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=BpT9qzgiJSg)

Ummm... I'm not sure I have much to say about this one. The chorus is elating (I love choral stuff like that). Very simple, very catchy... T. Rex's popularity is pretty much a testament to not really needing to know how to play complex music in order to play interesting music.

Eleven
12-04-2007, 09:21 PM
I slightly prefer "Children of the Revolution," "Jeepster," and "20th Century Boy," but it's hard to argue against the Bolan's brand of trippy, cosmic blues. And good other picks so far...

...although I doubt the rest will make up for a lack o' Fab Four.

Sven
12-04-2007, 09:23 PM
I slightly prefer "Children of the Revolution," "Jeepster," and "20th Century Boy," but it's hard to argue against the Bolan's brand of trippy, cosmic blues. And good other picks so far...

...although I doubt the rest will make up for a lack o' Fab Four.

Well, like I said, this is a list for songs that we should all be hopefully familiar with, and I think this is the only really popular T. Rex song.

Eleven
12-04-2007, 09:32 PM
Well, like I said, this is a list for songs that we should all be hopefully familiar with, and I think this is the only really popular T. Rex song.

Fair enough. youTube only has a clip of it, but there's a cool video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KYvfX-U2xz4&feature=related) on, I want to say a German or Swedish Top of the Pops-ish show, where the band lip-synchs the song with Elton John on piano.

Russ
12-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Well, like I said, this is a list for songs that we should all be hopefully familiar with, and I think this is the only really popular T. Rex song.
Well, it was either this or Hot Love, right?

Either wya, http://www.match-cut.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

D_Davis
12-04-2007, 10:03 PM
Oh yeah - T. Rex.

Futuristic Dragon is where it's at.

Watashi
12-04-2007, 10:05 PM
America rules

D_Davis
12-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Based on my limited experience with that album when it was initially released, I have to say, you're nuts. I'm still in awe of how craptacular Hello Nasty was. I haven't listened to it since the first year it came out, and I don't plan to listen to it anytime soon, but boy was it bad.


:shrug:

Not everyone can see the greatness in Hello Nasty. ;)

I firmly believe that Hello Nasty will be an album that in 20 years will be looked back upon for being totally ahead of its time. I still think it sounds like it is from the future. The songs are eclectic, it is one of the best produced hip hop albums ever recorded, and the entire thing just screams with creativity.

Sven
12-04-2007, 11:32 PM
#15 - Pet Shop Boys - Always On My Mind

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/introspec.jpg

From a movie, or rather, a glorified music video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WTHQwbkxlMY)

That link doesn't quite capture the rhapsodic quality of the song, but does effectively convey the melancholy of the lyrics through its protracted lingerings on Neil Tennant's face. There are many many Pet Shop Boys songs that I love love love, but this one is probably the greatest because of its sheer exuberance. And improving on Elvis while not stripping away his forlorn influence is not an easy task.

Speaking of Pet Shop Boys and covers, it just so happens that serendipity has provided Match Cut a relevant something (http://match-cut.org/showpost.php?p=12965&postcount=57) in a similar nature.

Boner M
12-05-2007, 12:16 AM
"Domino Dancing" > all

Spinal
12-05-2007, 12:22 AM
Yeah, this would be the first entry that I flat-out can't stand.

Sven
12-05-2007, 12:27 AM
Yeah, this would be the first entry that I flat-out can't stand.

:(

D_Davis
12-05-2007, 12:58 AM
Awesome. While not the PSB's song I would have chosen (I think just about anything off of Behavior is better), it is still good to see these amazing artists on the list. One of the most consistent pop bands around.

bac0n
12-05-2007, 01:13 AM
Major points for including the PSB on here. They're my fave pop band ever, and... shit, I'll come out and say it. The Pet Shop Boys are my favorite band ever. I had the pleasure of seeing them live earlier this year and it absolutely blew my mind.

That being said, I would tend to put Opportunities on here ahead of their cover of Always On My Mind, for its perfect capture of the essence of the money-infatuated attitude of the Reagan middle 80s.

Hell, as far as great PSB covers go, I would put their cover of U2's Where The Streets Have No Name (that transitions perfectly in and out of I Can't Take My Eyes Of of You) as their best.

D_Davis
12-05-2007, 01:37 AM
Hell, as far as great PSB covers go, I would put their cover of U2's Where The Streets Have No Name (that transitions perfectly in and out of I Can't Take My Eyes Of of You) as their best.

This is one of my favorite covers. An awesome song covered by an awesome band.

Sven
12-05-2007, 04:43 AM
#14 - Tom Jones - It's Not Unusual

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/87itsnotunusualgermanycvr.jpg

Sadly, the youtube clip with the best-sounding version of the song is this one (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jKlxjbhB9HE), which is a compilation of clips of Carlton dancing on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Sigh.

Including this song (and another notable one further down the list) opens up a huge bag of "shoulda"s, as it's not really in the same vein or era or style as the rest of the list. But this song is too irresistible to resist. That's right. Tom Jones belts it like it is, people. That very last bit where he "Whoa-WHOAAA-HO-HO-HO!!"s is enough to make a grown man weep with the ecstasy of truth. Such a great song.

Kurosawa Fan
12-05-2007, 12:47 PM
I would've gone with with "She's a Lady", but really, you can't lose with either one.

bac0n
12-05-2007, 02:28 PM
Great pick. Tom Jones is the only man alive who coulda pulled off "What's New Pussycat".

Sven
12-05-2007, 03:29 PM
#13 - Chic - Everybody Dance

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/chic_chic_101b.jpg

Extended, low quality version (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0csiWw6AKlc)

I'd recommend just downloading the single in your iTunes or comparable source for high-quality .mp3s, because there's nothing like Chic in their full stereo remastered glory. At the height of disco, I'd probably suggest that only Harry Wayne Casey and his Sunshine Band gave Chic a run for their money, quality-wise. This song opens with a killer bass riff and segues into a rather weighty and strikingly minor series of keyboard chords countered by the ever-awesome disco strings and always inspired handclap tracks. Then, when Norma Wright starts singing and the guitar starts wakka-wakka-ing, I'm in disco heaven. "Music never lets you down/Puts a smile on your face/Anytime, anyplace/Dancing helps relieve the pain/Soothes your mind, makes you happy again" Truer words were never disco'd to.

Raiders
12-05-2007, 03:33 PM
For me, this list has gone downhill extremely fast. I can't stand PSB or Tom Jones.

Sven
12-05-2007, 03:37 PM
For me, this list has gone downhill extremely fast. I can't stand PSB or Tom Jones.

You've never asked for negative rep so intensely than you have just now.

But I am a loving man. Perhaps you will like my next selection more.

dreamdead
12-05-2007, 04:07 PM
This list needs some Oasis. Yeah, I said it.

And I feel like I'm in a timezone that's stuck in the late 70s. It's creepy.

Spinal
12-05-2007, 04:15 PM
This list needs some Oasis. Yeah, I said it.

And I feel like I'm in a timezone that's stuck in the late 70s. It's creepy.

If it's "Wonderwall", I'd be OK with it. Somehow I don't see that happening though.

ledfloyd
12-05-2007, 04:40 PM
abba, yes, fleetwood mac, america... i'll reserve comment. if you can't say anything nice...

Kurosawa Fan
12-05-2007, 05:13 PM
abba, yes, fleetwood mac, america... i'll reserve comment. if you can't say anything nice...

You don't have anything nice to say about Fleetwood Mac? Seriously?

Lasse
12-05-2007, 10:08 PM
That being said, I would tend to put Opportunities on here ahead of their cover of Always On My Mind, for its perfect capture of the essence of the money-infatuated attitude of the Reagan middle 80s.

Opportunities is my favorite Pet Shop Boys song. Closely followed by anything off the Very record. Especially The Theatre.

bac0n
12-05-2007, 10:09 PM
For me, this list has gone downhill extremely fast. I can't stand PSB or Tom Jones.

Wow. Just... Wow. :eek:

bac0n
12-05-2007, 10:17 PM
#15 - Chic - Everybody Dance

I'm watching a video of this song (http://youtube.com/watch?v=RFQcOrqQLN8&feature=related), and all I gotta say is, MAN, that is some of pretty amazing bass work. BAD-ASSSSS.

Boner M
12-06-2007, 04:50 AM
Are you a fan of the dB's, iosos?

ledfloyd
12-06-2007, 10:19 AM
You don't have anything nice to say about Fleetwood Mac? Seriously?
they weren't bad when they had peter green.

Sven
12-06-2007, 04:09 PM
Are you a fan of the dB's, iosos?

Sure. Ride the Wild Tom Tom is fun.

Sven
12-06-2007, 04:22 PM
#12 - David Bowie - Starman

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/63819330dca0223e74276010L.jpg

It's all just part of your freaky dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQPotlZr-0)

For a while I couldn't listen to this song without thinking about the movie Life Aquatic (which attempts to use the song in a somewhat poignant manner), which really bugged me because I love the song and don't care for the movie at all. However, time is the greatest temperer of association, and I'm now able to enjoy the song, Anderson-free. I love that this song is ostensibly about God "He's told us not to blow it/Because he knows it's all worthwhile". You don't get that kind of optimistic, God-heavy commentary from good pop music. Gotta love that guitar bridge.

D_Davis
12-06-2007, 05:13 PM
Starman is awesome. Luckily I have completely forgot about The Life Aquatic and its terrible, pretentious use of David Bowie's music. At least they didn't taint the original tunes with the stench of the film.

Mick Ronson is a guitar god.

bac0n
12-06-2007, 05:26 PM
I love Starman for its wicked chord progressions alone.

Raiders
12-06-2007, 05:35 PM
That's an improvement.

Kurosawa Fan
12-06-2007, 06:34 PM
Starman rules. Fantastic choice. You continue to impress.

Sven
12-06-2007, 08:24 PM
Why didn't you jerks tell me my numbering was off (again)? :)

#11 - The Kinks - You Really Got Me

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/41JV7PZ9JEL_AA240_.jpg

I've got a Kink in my side... oh, look! It's Ray Davies! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSQOVlkaJT4&feature=related)

As much as I love their version, The Kinks's original puts Van Halen's (arguably) more popular version to shame. The gritty rawness of this production far better exemplifies the rough-to-handle spirit that, well, frankly just does not exist in arena rock. In general, I prefer The Kinks's later musical-theatery stuff, but this is a classic tune for good reason. That guitar solo, that sounds like the same four notes over and over, bending a little bit now and then, is mind-blowing in its transforming the structure of three-chord blues rock into a nearly hyper experience.

Boner M
12-06-2007, 08:33 PM
Sure. Ride the Wild Tom Tom is fun.
I was thinking "Big Brown Eyes" would be perfect for this thread.

Kurosawa Fan
12-06-2007, 08:33 PM
The fact that you admit to loving Van Halen's version of this song nearly ruins its inclusion in the list.

Sven
12-06-2007, 08:39 PM
Before I get into the top ten, I'd like to note a few things:

In an attempt to level out my more pronounced biases, I have excised a few obvious candidates from the proceedings. Namely, you may be surprised to know that there will not be any Steely Dan or Todd Rundgren represented on the list. However, do not for a moment think that I do not think they exemplify great pop music. On the contrary, if there are to be any poster children for intelligent and worthy writers of pop/rock, they would be my first two selections. But none of their really popular, well-known stuff is material that I think best represents their talents, so off they go.

Also, due to my enormous love for disco and the instance that, were I to have left my true, emotional feelings untempered, disco would've comprised roughly 70% of the list, I chose to select only a small handful of songs that immediately sprang to mind and heart as shining examples of the spirit. To that end, this list will not see any Kool and the Gang or KC & the Sunshine Band, among many more.

As for my decision to leave The Beatles out, well... all I can say is that if Martha My Dear was more popular, they would've made the cut. Alas, I fear the explanation of their absence may be a simple matter of saturation. I don't think they have a famous song yet that continues to surprise me. In other words, I've just heard their songs too damn many times. Good music it is, but they have enough exposure in the world to need it on my meager list.

In a similar boat are the Stones, who with Miss You very easily could've made it, but their obviousness made me forget about them when it came time to construct the list.

Hall and Oates were in the top 10 with Maneater until I realized 1) that there was a selection I had left out and 2) that maybe Maneater isn't as popular as I thought it was. Still, great bloody song.

I'm afraid the most recent song has already been mentioned (Where It's At), so yes, I'm sorry, but we're going to be mired in the 70s for the rest of this thread's life. This is not to suggest that I don't think there have been any great pop songs from the last 20-30 years, but it does suggest that I think there were more great ones before that. I feel like my uncle.

And again, this list is meant to be a sampling, by no means definitive, of what I feel to be great examples of pop music. Like, real popular stuff. Nothing unknown. I want it to be obtrusive stuff. Stuff that you hear and *click*... "oh yeaaaaah". IE, Billy Jean, not Baby Be Mine, kind of thing.

Sven
12-06-2007, 08:41 PM
I was thinking "Big Brown Eyes" would be perfect for this thread.

Good one, but I don't think it's popular enough. It's not one that I'd say is in the cultural consciousness.

Sven
12-06-2007, 08:51 PM
#10 - The Cars - My Best Friend's Girl

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/TheCars.jpg

Lame Harry Potter fan-vid! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UU6j4WaHIU&feature=related)

This one is probably more of a sentimental choice than any. Last year at the Ukefest here in New York, Greg Hawkes showed up and played pretty much the most mind-blowingly awesome version of this song with a uke and a synthesizer (and I got to play with him!). So whenever I hear this song (that I already considered my favorite Cars song in the first place), I'm reminded of how friggin' brilliant it was live and I'm washed over with feelings of peace and harmony and nostalgia. Isn't good pop music supposed to do that?

Kurosawa Fan
12-06-2007, 08:58 PM
The Cars are fantastic. I'm more partial to You're All I've Got Tonight, but again, my compliments for choosing a great song from a great band.

Boner M
12-06-2007, 09:01 PM
Good one, but I don't think it's popular enough. It's not one that I'd say is in the cultural consciousness.
I, err... didn't read the guidelines.

Horbgorbler
12-07-2007, 12:19 AM
The opening seconds of "You Really Got Me" might just have the coolest guitar tone ever. More worthy of turning "buzzsaw" into an adjective over than any Husker Du I've ever heard.

Sven
12-07-2007, 03:30 AM
#9 - The Andrea True Connection - More, More, More

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/andrea20true.jpg

Watch this and tell me you don't believe that this woman used to be a porn star (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6wP_kUzaRlY&feature=related)

It's true. And if you listen to the lyrics, it really really shouldn't be a surprise. At any rate, spread-eagle or not, this song arouses me in holy and ungodly ways at the same time. It makes me wanna boogie and much as it makes me want to do dirty and profane things. I'm not sure what. And while I try to live a humble life free of external complication, there's something absolutely glorious in this song's writhing in ecstatic excess. Maybe this song isn't as well known as it should be, but to justify its inclusion on the list, at 2:20 on the video, you can pick up on the piece of sonic gold that Len sampled in their increasingly annoying Steal My Sunshine song from a few years ago. So it's all good. More? Yes, please. More! More!

Eleven
12-07-2007, 03:33 AM
With the last four, we've hit unabashed, undeniably greatness. And those links are definitely being clicked.

Spinal
12-07-2007, 05:53 AM
Hurrah for The Cars. Every time I hear them I wonder why I've never bought one of their CD's.

Kurosawa Fan
12-07-2007, 12:39 PM
Well, you finally lost me iosos. More, More, More is one of the more insufferable, annoying songs that gets regular radio play.

Sven
12-08-2007, 02:07 AM
#8 - Led Zeppelin - Fool in the Rain

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/to%20be%20resized/B000002JSP02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

No Stairway... denied! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5uoCxNHN2AY)

Yeah, sure, there are better Zep songs, but this one always makes me go "Oh yeah, I love this song!" Consider this an underdog entry, by a decidedly un-underdoggy band. This riff will live on forever. I think it can be deduced that I like blatantly optimistic tunes, and I can't think of a more chipper Zep tune. I love the moment (at 3:43 in the video) when, after the song goes off on a hyper-conga episode with police whistles and all, it switches right back into the riff and that awesome distorted guitar solo.

Spinal
12-08-2007, 02:28 AM
Excellent choice. Didn't realize I knew the song until I clicked the link.

Sven
12-08-2007, 02:30 AM
#7 - The Who - Baba O'Riley

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/B000002OX701_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

aka Teenage Wasteland (http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2KRpRMSu4g&feature=related)

When the piano kicks in and the synthesizer riff is given form, this becomes one of the most majestic and magical rock songs ever. Then, at the end, when the violin accompanies us in our respective Who-induced reveries, it becomes pretty much the greatest rock song ever composed. Nobody wails like Daltry. Perfection.

Sven
12-08-2007, 02:32 AM
Excellent choice. Didn't realize I knew the song until I clicked the link.

:)

This is precisely one of the reasons why I wanted to make the list. Most excellent.

Spinal
12-08-2007, 02:40 AM
The CSI theme song????? :eek:


Just kidding. Baba O'Riley is surely one of the coolest songs ever.

Sven
12-08-2007, 02:47 AM
#6 - Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/PetSoundsCover.jpg

I couldn't finish this list without a link to a Sims video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=h6jOMn_KPCU)

Alright, alright, I know I've said some mean things about The Beach Boys in the past. And still, whenever I hear them talking about girls or surfing, my chest starts hurting. But I have to admit, whenever I hear the lyric "You know, it's going to make it that much better/When we can say goodnight and stay together", I swoon. Wonderful, loving. I'm even kind of infatuated with the whole Beach-Boy-harmony thing that's going on.

Spinal
12-08-2007, 02:51 AM
I like this version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldxg87pDlI8) of Baba O'Riley.

Tracy Bonham!

Sven
12-08-2007, 02:55 AM
I like this version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldxg87pDlI8) of Baba O'Riley.

Tracy Bonham!

Seems like that one would've been killer to see live. Youtube is just not the right venue for those blue dudes.

Spinal
12-08-2007, 02:58 AM
Seems like that one would've been killer to see live. Youtube is just not the right venue for those blue dudes.

Yeah, probably not.

Derek
12-08-2007, 03:01 AM
Last 6 picks (ignoring "More More More" for your sake) have been fantastic. "Baba O'Riley" is one of those overplayed tunes that I never get tired of hearing.

Spinal
12-08-2007, 03:04 AM
"Baba O'Riley" is one of those overplayed tunes that I never get tired of hearing.

My wife watches a lot of CSI, so I hear it an awful lot. Still sing along every damn time.

Derek
12-08-2007, 03:15 AM
My wife watches a lot of CSI, so I hear it an awful lot. Still sing along every damn time.

Can we get a voice clip of your Baba O scream...please?

Spinal
12-08-2007, 03:27 AM
Can we get a voice clip of your Baba O scream...please?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

No.

Watashi
12-08-2007, 03:56 AM
This list is null without "Apache".

bac0n
12-08-2007, 04:37 AM
Can we get a voice clip of your Baba O scream...please?

Here you go. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0k0z2MtvLY)

D_Davis
12-08-2007, 02:46 PM
#6 - Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice


Nice. I would have chosen Surf's Up from Smile (it's not really about surfing by the way), but Wouldn't It Be Nice is a great tune from a great album.

Kurosawa Fan
12-08-2007, 03:56 PM
Baba O'Riley is one of the best songs I've ever heard live. I saw The Who just a month after Entwhistle passed, and their energy was amazing, especially considering their age. But that song, it still gives me the chills thinking about it.

Philosophe_rouge
12-08-2007, 04:05 PM
I really love Tom Jones and the Kinks. Depending on my mood, the Beach Boys also join that elustrious club. Loving the list.

Horbgorbler
12-08-2007, 04:54 PM
A charter member of the elite, illustrious and very exclusive "FM Radio Staples That Actually Deserve Such An Honour(?) Club."

SpaceOddity
12-08-2007, 05:08 PM
#14 - Tom Jones - It's Not Unusual

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/87itsnotunusualgermanycvr.jpg

.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=clF15ITzFC0

Lasse
12-08-2007, 05:32 PM
#6 - Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice

My favorite Beach Boys song is God Only Knows, but they've made so many great songs. Wouldn't It Be Nice is just one of them.

Sven
12-08-2007, 05:35 PM
A charter member of the elite, illustrious and very exclusive "FM Radio Staples That Actually Deserve Such An Honour(?) Club."

I can never tell if you're being tongue-in-cheek or if you're really that cocky.

Sven
12-08-2007, 10:12 PM
More, More, More is one of the more insufferable, annoying songs that gets regular radio play.


Last 6 picks (ignoring "More More More" for your sake) have been fantastic.

Bastards. The lot of you.

Sven
12-13-2007, 06:22 PM
#5 - Mr. Blue Sky - Electric Light Orchestra

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/ootb.jpg

The totally awesome hair!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98P-gu_vMRc)

Right now, ELO is officially my favorite band ever, Jeff Lynne being my official musical hero. This song is probably not even in my top 10 favorite ELO songs, but of their most popular (ie, Evil Woman, Living Thing, Ma-Ma-Ma-Belle, etc), I think it best represents what makes them so attractive to me. Key is that disco flavor -- the strings, the choral crescendos, the up-tempo optimism. I'm not sure if the trailer (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1GiLxkDK8sI) for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind came first, or if it was the VW commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-aUBso-XuA&feature=related), but somehow this song managed a sort of hipster revival and I think musical culture is all the more benefited from it. God bless you, Jeff Lynne, with your wild hair and impeccable production skills.

Ezee E
12-13-2007, 06:31 PM
ew. Please, no "Four Little Diamonds"

bac0n
12-13-2007, 06:35 PM
Good choice! I dig ELO, particularly the song Don't Bring Me Down. That's one of the best things to come out of the 80s pop scene.

Sven
12-13-2007, 06:37 PM
ew. Please, no "Four Little Diamonds"

:evil:

If the law don't get you, then I will.


Good choice! I dig ELO, particularly the song Don't Bring Me Down. That's one of the best things to come out of the 80s pop scene.

Rep for you!

bac0n
12-13-2007, 06:46 PM
Everything Jeff Lynn touched in the 80s turned to gold. Another favorite pop song of that era is Dave Edmunds' Slippin' Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM9DAySyIL0), which Jeff Lynn wrote and produced. Hell, that song is not so much a Dave Edmunds song as it is an ELO song with Edmunds on the vocals. Either way, I love it.

Sven
12-13-2007, 06:54 PM
Everything Jeff Lynn touched in the 80s turned to gold. Another favorite pop song of that era is Dave Edmunds' Slippin' Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM9DAySyIL0), which Jeff Lynn wrote and produced. Hell, that song is not so much a Dave Edmunds song as it is an ELO song with Edmunds on the vocals. Either way, I love it.

Heh. Yeah. That sounds like every track on ELO's Secret Messages and Balance of Power albums. Not really quite my favorite era of theirs, but holy cow, do I still love it so. To me, nothing beats the New World Record/Out of the Blue/Discovery Trifecta.

Sycophant
12-13-2007, 08:07 PM
#5 - Mr. Blue Sky - Electric Light Orchestra:cool:

I never get tired of spinning this album (and this song, in particular, and the one that follows it "Sweet Is the Night"). And I have you to thank for turning me on to them. I still can't believe i haven't picked up any other albums. One of these days...

Sven
12-13-2007, 08:10 PM
:cool:

I never get tired of spinning this album (and this song, in particular, and the one that follows it "Sweet Is the Night"). And I have you to thank for turning me on to them. I still can't believe i haven't picked up any other albums. One of these days...

I've actually got an idea in mind for a media project that I might attempt sometime in the near future that incorporates Sweet is the Night. It will be awesome if done. I should probably do it.

Sven
12-13-2007, 09:33 PM
#4 - Young-Holt Unlimited - Soulful Strut

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/youngholtun_soulfulst_101b.jpg

Please don't watch the video. Just listen to the sweet, sweet musics. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_U2Lzmz4cb8)

Forget Stayin' Alive... this is the real soulful strut. If you can't feel this song, you are dead to happiness and everything wonderful in the world. You should seek help and medication.

That's all there is to say.

Ivan Drago
12-15-2007, 03:51 AM
ELO is tied with Queen as my favorite band of all time. Excellent song, excellent band.

Sven
12-16-2007, 04:46 PM
#3 - Crosby, Stills, and Nash - Suite: Judy Blue Eyes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/CrosbyStillsNash_1969_300.jpg

Sans Young (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8l07SUKQw7Q)

Of all the songs on this list, including numbers 1 and 2, this is the only one that I would feel comfortable calling "a masterpiece". It's so wonderful, so personal, so many great harmonies and melodies and bass lines and guitar riffs and that echoing percussion... so many different sounds converge into one voice and it's unparalleled in beauty. Many CSN songs are as lovely, but none ever reach the perfection, in spirit and production, of this first track of their first album.

DSNT
12-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes is an excellent choice.

Sven
12-17-2007, 06:42 AM
#2 - Smokey Robinson and the Miracles - Tears of a Clown

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/200px-Miracles_make_it_happen_reiss. jpg

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=E2E_RSJAhYU)

I can't quite explain the profundity that I hear and feel in this song. I mean, yeah, sure, he's singing about feeling sad inside, masking it with a facade of good cheer. Nothing too deep. But something about the upbeat percussion and driven progression of chords and Smokey's near-falsetto conviction... it all equates to something so soulful that I can hardly contain myself when I listen to it. Including this one makes me wanna redo the list to include more 60s soul (think Otis, Marvin, Curtis). Oh well. The list isn't comprehensive. And none of those guys ever cut a record that struck me to the bone like this one.

Kurosawa Fan
12-17-2007, 01:45 PM
Sweeeet.

Sycophant
12-17-2007, 05:01 PM
AMEN!

Sven
12-17-2007, 05:37 PM
And now, the song that I frequently hold to be the greatest pop song, like, pretty much ever, depending on my mood and likely the weather:

#1 - Michael Jackson - Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/iosos/album%20art/DSTYGE.jpg

The force makes me feel like WHOOOOOOOO! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=HrPTDU40hO4)

There was a time when one could say, without irony, that Michael Jackson deserves his status as The King of Pop. I long for those days. Those Off the Wall days, those Thriller nights. This song is absolutely representative of my feelings about Jackson, about music, about life and its innumerous pleasures. Like More, More, More, this song taps into reserves of the soul forever unsatiated, however eternally fed by rhythm and dance. Its an infinite well of pleasure, music, and even though MJ implies that eventually one can have enough, take heed in his words calling for steadfast proactivity, never idle, ever true. Nothing should keep us from feeling those beats, sadness and happiness are cursory, temporal--all that's left is the rhythm. I love the way MJ spits out random "ugh!"s and "hah!"s, as though his body is incapable of retaining all the musical pressure within. All those tight little breaths, releasing the steam of pent-up excitement at the prospect of music's perpetually building energy...

... this song is simply the best. Of course, I could say that about every song on this list. And I frequently do. What's the point of ranking? Music is the most democratic of all expressive forms.

All rhythms are created equal.

Kurosawa Fan
12-17-2007, 06:04 PM
Easily the best song Jack-o ever made. Great way to cap off a fantastic list. I commend you sir!

Sven
12-17-2007, 06:08 PM
Easily the best song Jack-o ever made. Great way to cap off a fantastic list. I commend you sir!

Thanks! It was fun for me too.

And I'd like to pat myself on the back for creating one of the handful of lists that ran its full course on this here site of ours. And with relative speed and expediency, too.

bac0n
12-17-2007, 06:39 PM
Easily the best song Jack-o ever made. Great way to cap off a fantastic list. I commend you sir!

I concur. This is the only Michael Jackson song on my iTunes, tho I really dig his other big pre-Thriller hit, Rock With You quite a bit too.

Horbgorbler
12-18-2007, 04:11 AM
"Tears of a Clown" is perfection.

transmogrifier
12-18-2007, 04:39 AM
When I do my best songs list, there will be a 0% overlap with this list.

:)

Sven
12-18-2007, 02:51 PM
When I do my best songs list, there will be a 0% overlap with this list.

:)

If I were to make a list of what I thought were the actual best songs, hardly any of these would make it as well. I was doing a list of the songs that justify the existence of pop--good examples of songs that exist in all of our consciousness, radio staples, songs frequently featured in ads or movies. My list of best songs ever would be very different.

That said, it would still have a 0% overlap with your list.

D_Davis
12-18-2007, 03:51 PM
I concur. This is the only Michael Jackson song on my iTunes, tho I really dig his other big pre-Thriller hit, Rock With You quite a bit too.


Yeah, these are both great.

D_Davis
12-18-2007, 04:03 PM
Good list man, you've got some great pop songs here, no doubt!

ledfloyd
12-18-2007, 04:34 PM
i was rolling my eyes while reading this list. then with the last three entries you completely won me over.

keep on! with the force don't stop! don't stop til you get enough!