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Dukefrukem
05-28-2009, 04:14 PM
Staring...

Bruce Willis, Tracy Morgan, Seann William Scott and Adam Brody


Scott is playing a thief called The Shit Bandit who steals memorabilia and Brody looks to be playing the straight man, a detective along for the ride with Tracy Morgan and Bruce Willis as they try to solve a case about a valuable stolen baseball card

Ezee E
05-28-2009, 04:59 PM
Good to see Tracy Morgan getting some film roles.

Ivan Drago
05-28-2009, 08:13 PM
Good to see Tracy Morgan getting some film roles.

Knowing this you can live like it's shark week.

Sycophant
05-28-2009, 08:21 PM
This project sounds weird. I hope it's Smith branching out and taking some risks beyond his comfort zone, but it probably isn't.

Meanwhile, WTF Willis.

Ezee E
05-28-2009, 08:24 PM
This project sounds weird. I hope it's Smith branching out and taking some risks beyond his comfort zone, but it probably isn't.

Meanwhile, WTF Willis.
The title alone shows that Kevin Smith isn't straying too far.

Sycophant
05-28-2009, 08:25 PM
I like the concept of the shit bandit, though. When I think about it generally, it's kind of interesting. When I think about it as a Kevin Smith movie, it's kind of boring.

Derek
05-28-2009, 08:26 PM
Oh, because dicks can be detectives and penises and two detectives make for a mystery whereas two penises are gay. Fuck you, Kevin Smith.

number8
05-28-2009, 08:53 PM
Some of you probably know this, but it should be mentioned that this is going to be the first time (outside of Reaper) that Kevin Smith is directing a script he didn't write.

Sycophant
05-28-2009, 09:00 PM
First film written by two guys named Cullen, TV writers.

Funny. I thought that Smith's strengths would be more in writing than directing, so I would've figured he'd try this the other way around.

number8
05-28-2009, 09:22 PM
First film written by two guys named Cullen, TV writers.

Funny. I thought that Smith's strengths would be more in writing than directing, so I would've figured he'd try this the other way around.

He did. Superman, remember? He's also done uncredited script work before, punching up dialogue in a few comedies.

He's always questioned his own directing skills and he'd be the first to admit he's no good at it, so I guess he's kind of doing it to really prove it one way or the other. Also, his approach to directing is inorganic. He's said once that the way he does it is that he sets up the camera, he yells action, then he hopes that the actors would say the lines the way he imagines it in his head when he was writing it. Which is... not good.

Acapelli
05-29-2009, 02:09 AM
Some of you probably know this, but it should be mentioned that this is going to be the first time (outside of Reaper) that Kevin Smith is directing a script he didn't write.
this is like a pitcher batting in a game he's not playing in

a shitty pitcher

Dukefrukem
06-03-2009, 08:32 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/06/custom_1244054923645_spl104298 _003.jpg

http://gawker.com/5277577/just-a-wednesday-for-tracy-morgan

number8
12-24-2009, 05:27 AM
Renamed COP OUT, and boy howdy it looks like a piece of shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6t0dWo58jg

Dead & Messed Up
12-24-2009, 06:00 AM
I guess Smith is trying to dumb his way into success. Not a bad call, really.

Skitch
12-24-2009, 06:15 AM
Normally I would say "meh-pass", but being KS, I laughed and remain curious.

Acapelli
12-24-2009, 07:04 AM
wow that looks like shit

B-side
12-24-2009, 07:19 AM
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.c om/images/e/e1/Kill_it_with_fire_scorpio.gif

BuffaloWilder
12-24-2009, 07:32 AM
"I'm his partner. I'm smarter than Batman."

Also


WOO KEVIN SMITH WOO

eternity
12-24-2009, 07:34 AM
Trailers structured like that usually only go towards shitty movies. So...let's see.

That title is funny on multiple levels though.

Dukefrukem
12-24-2009, 12:37 PM
Not gonna lie. I laughed at: "hello, the president is black now...we make decisions"

Lazlo
12-24-2009, 03:44 PM
Looks crappy but Morgan stuffing chips in his mouth got a laugh out of me.

Kurosawa Fan
12-24-2009, 04:14 PM
I guess Smith is trying to dumb his way into success. Not a bad call, really.

:lol:

Kevin Smith's entire career has been dumbed down. I'm not sure how much further he can go.

BuffaloWilder
12-24-2009, 08:53 PM
He goes in fits and starts.

eternity
12-24-2009, 11:33 PM
@ThatKevinSmith Via @ScooterBeanbag "did you get to edit together the trailer too or is that all on WB?" Nah - I can barely make a movie, let alone sell it.

Yeah.

EDIT: Just go on Twitter and read everything. He's doing a Cop Out Q&A right now. He's well aware that the trailer is fucking awful.

ledfloyd
12-25-2009, 08:33 AM
why does this even exist when edgar wright made hot fuzz?

number8
12-25-2009, 08:53 AM
why does this even exist when edgar wright made hot fuzz?

You have the rule of Hollywood moviemaking backwards.

angrycinephile
12-28-2009, 06:36 PM
Looks pretty painful.

Maybe Kevin Smith should just stop making feature films and continue doing "An Evening with..." shows for the rest of his career.

It's kinda cool that Harold Faltermeyer (of Beverly Hills Cop and Top Gun-fame) is writing the score though.

Adam
12-28-2009, 06:46 PM
Kevin Smith is so '90s; it's kind of absurd that he even exists anymore

Dukefrukem
12-29-2009, 01:24 PM
Kevin Smith is so '90s; it's kind of absurd that he even exists anymore

I was even disappointed when I saw him in Live Free or Die Hard.

number8
12-29-2009, 02:06 PM
I was not disappointed when I saw him in Southland Tales.

Rowland
12-29-2009, 06:17 PM
Tracy Morgan's schtick has gotten really old. I barely finished the third season of 30 Rock.

megladon8
12-30-2009, 01:34 AM
Tracy Morgan's schtick has gotten really old. I barely finished the third season of 30 Rock.


He has a schtick?

I guess I never picked up on any consistent elements in his act. I just never found him funny at all.

Spun Lepton
12-30-2009, 02:01 AM
Kevin Smith is so '90s; it's kind of absurd that he even exists anymore

His best film to date is Zack and Miri, so how could that be? :P

Spun Lepton
12-30-2009, 02:57 AM
*ahem*

Still looks better than Mallrats.

eternity
12-30-2009, 05:14 AM
After Chasing Amy, it seems like he really can't top himself. That was his peak.

Morris Schæffer
12-30-2009, 08:32 AM
It's kinda cool that Harold Faltermeyer (of Beverly Hills Cop and Top Gun-fame) is writing the score though.

That is cool.

MadMan
12-31-2009, 02:14 AM
Despite this starring Bruce Willis and Tracy Morgan (plus Sean William Scott), I saw the trailer. It only made me laugh twice, and that's not a good sign. Pass.

Sycophant
12-31-2009, 08:49 PM
Trailers almost never make me laugh.

Ezee E
01-01-2010, 05:41 AM
I would've thought this was a for-hire type of job instead of something by Kevin Smith. Looks awful.

KK2.0
01-01-2010, 11:32 PM
After Chasing Amy, it seems like he really can't top himself. That was his peak.

After rewatching Chasing Amy recently i'm starting to agree, need to revisit Clerks someday.

MadMan
01-02-2010, 05:19 AM
Trailers almost never make me laugh.Really? Going by recent trailers, the one for Pinapple Express had many a great funny moment.

angrycinephile
02-05-2010, 11:56 AM
Red Band trailer (http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/02/04/cop-out-red-band-movie-trailer/)

Still looks pretty bad.

Fezzik
02-05-2010, 01:49 PM
When Scott says "This is police brutality!" the expression on Willis's face when he answers "not yet" is probably the only thing in the trailer that made me laugh.

Seriously, that was a great expression. Other than that? Meh.

number8
02-05-2010, 02:10 PM
Red Band trailer (http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/02/04/cop-out-red-band-movie-trailer/)

Still looks pretty bad.

Holy shit!

This just went from "Ugh pass" to "Eh, mayyybe rental"!!!

Dukefrukem
02-05-2010, 02:35 PM
yeh that trailer changed my feeling of this movie... BIG TIME

Kurosawa Fan
02-05-2010, 05:05 PM
That red band trailer actually got some laughs out of me.

Skitch
02-05-2010, 05:28 PM
Yeah, I can't really remember the last time I laughed that hard at a trailer.

eternity
02-05-2010, 09:11 PM
I can't help but to think this will be hilarious. That said, Smith hasn't made a good movie since Chasing Amy, so my optimism will probably be crushed...again.

Ezee E
02-05-2010, 09:30 PM
ARe you guys serious?

I chuckled at some of the movie references, otherwise this looks worse than most Kevin Smith movies, and I haven't even thought one was okay.

number8
02-05-2010, 09:34 PM
ARe you guys serious?

I chuckled at some of the movie references, otherwise this looks worse than most Kevin Smith movies, and I haven't even thought one was okay.

I was being sarcastic.

Ezee E
02-05-2010, 09:35 PM
I was being sarcastic.
As I went through post by post, I thought that was the case. Until it was three in a row, and figured it was becoming sincere. And the painkillers may be altering my thinking.

So maybe it is funny!

Kurosawa Fan
02-05-2010, 09:39 PM
ARe you guys serious?

I chuckled at some of the movie references, otherwise this looks worse than most Kevin Smith movies, and I haven't even thought one was okay.

Oh I'm not going to watch it, but there were a couple funny moments in there.

Skitch
02-06-2010, 12:32 AM
I'm a bitch when it comes to cinema comedy. I'm just saying I laughed out loud at the trailer. That's all. Do you guys do that with comedy trailers? I usually just slap my forehead with em.

MadMan
02-06-2010, 04:16 AM
Okay I laughed a few times at the Red Band trailer. But I'm still not convinced this movie will be truly funny. So yeah, its now a rental at most.

eternity
02-06-2010, 04:20 AM
When a director says that the marketing is awful and completely mis-representative...shouldn't we you know...believe him?

Winston*
02-06-2010, 04:35 AM
When a director is Kevin Smith...shouldn't we you know...not see his movies?

eternity
02-06-2010, 05:25 AM
When a director is Kevin Smith...shouldn't we you know...not see his movies?Well played, sir.

B-side
02-06-2010, 05:38 AM
I just never found him funny at all.

THANK YOU!

Glad I'm not alone. I actually actively dislike his presence in anything.

Grouchy
02-06-2010, 11:19 PM
I'm a bitch when it comes to cinema comedy. I'm just saying I laughed out loud at the trailer. That's all. Do you guys do that with comedy trailers? I usually just slap my forehead with em.
I stand on my head and sing.

Dukefrukem
02-15-2010, 09:55 PM
its obviously promotion for his new movie (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/02/15/kevin.smith.southwest/index.html?hpt=T2)

BuffaloWilder
02-16-2010, 08:18 PM
He's actually pulling the discrimination card. This is ridiculous, Mr. Smith sir.

baby doll
02-16-2010, 08:43 PM
I hate the airlines, so I'm pretty sympathetic to Smith's cause, whether or not it's a publicity stunt. There was an appallingly stupid segment on Anderson Cooper last night in which he had a fat woman espousing "fat acceptance" debate a shrill skinny bitch whose basic message was, "Put the fork down, fatty." The implication here is that any issue can be treated in terms of right-versus-left, or in this case, fat-versus-skinny, when actually there's a wide range of body types. The bottom line is that the airlines make the seats too small so they can sell more tickets. And God help you if you're a westerner flying with Korean Air.

BuffaloWilder
02-16-2010, 10:05 PM
"Put the fork down, fatty."

Actually, I agree with this message, and I'm a little stout around the tum.

Derek
02-16-2010, 11:29 PM
Good on Southwest if it's true. You're purchasing space on a plane and if you can't fit in it, tough. If he knows this and usually purchases two tickets, he shouldn't have been flying standby in the first place. I've sat next to someone who spilled into my seat on a flight and it made for a very unpleasant experience.

eternity
02-17-2010, 03:06 AM
Good on Southwest if it's true. You're purchasing space on a plane and if you can't fit in it, tough. If he knows this and usually purchases two tickets, he shouldn't have been flying standby in the first place. I've sat next to someone who spilled into my seat on a flight and it made for a very unpleasant experience.
1. He fit the space.
2. He doesn't usually purchase two tickets, but sometimes when flying Southwest, he does because the only class is coach, the tickets are dirt cheap and he likes being a recluse, because "everyone recognizes him and he doesn't like all the OMG SILENT BOB CLERKS OMG".

The majority of the controversy now is over the fact that Southwest was lying about it.

number8
02-17-2010, 03:16 AM
Kevin Smith is really not that fat. If he fit comfortably in one seat, he shouldn't have been ejected.

But the idea that airlines need to give up space for wider seats so the obese can sit comfortably is nonsense.

baby doll
02-17-2010, 02:47 PM
But the idea that airlines need to give up space for wider seats so the obese can sit comfortably is nonsense.How about giving up space for wider seats so that a normal sized person can sit comfortably? The last thing an airline seat is designed for is anyone's comfort.

number8
02-17-2010, 03:14 PM
They do have those. It's called business class.

baby doll
02-17-2010, 07:03 PM
They do have those. It's called business class.I think you're entitled to be comfortable when you fly, whether you can afford to sit in business class or not.

number8
02-17-2010, 08:13 PM
I think you're entitled to be comfortable when you fly, whether you can afford to sit in business class or not.

I think that's why they have options. Public transportation is never fully comfortable, but I'm usually pretty comfy with airplane chairs. The seat sizes they have are sufficient for the average person. If you don't think it's enough for you, you can upgrade to a luxury seat, but such a thing is not within anyone's entitlement.

BuffaloWilder
02-17-2010, 09:04 PM
If you can't fit into a coach airline seat, then you're fat. That's the new criterion.

Ezee E
02-17-2010, 10:17 PM
If you can't fit into a coach airline seat, then you're fat. That's the new criterion.
I agree with this though. I've been able to bring up both of my feet and bundle myself into a ball sideways and go to sleep. This is on Southwest.

megladon8
02-18-2010, 12:03 AM
I agree with this though. I've been able to bring up both of my feet and bundle myself into a ball sideways and go to sleep. This is on Southwest.


That really has nothing to do with whether or not you're fat, though.

Skitch
02-18-2010, 02:26 AM
I'm not wide at all, but I am tall. Most of the flights I've been on I've had my knees propped up on the seat in front of me, because there wasn't enough room for me to put them down.

Flying conditions blow.

Ezee E
02-18-2010, 02:35 AM
But it is. I can fit myself, with feet on the seat sideways, and still have room. If you're wider than that, sorry, fat.

Dead & Messed Up
02-18-2010, 02:40 AM
But it is. I can fit myself, with feet on the seat sideways, and still have room. If you're wider than that, sorry, fat.

Dude, I'm a slim guy, but I'm 6'2", and anything other than first class generally sucks for the large-and-or-tall. I'm not talking about the morbidly obese. I'm talking about people outside the average. It sounds you're a contortionist in denial.

Fezzik
02-18-2010, 02:46 AM
Actually, I agree with this message, and I'm a little stout around the tum.

What bothers me about messages like that is that most of the people who say/feel this way completely disregard the fact that in a lot of cases, the overeating (if there is any at all), is due to a psychological problem that can't simply be wished away by saying "put the fork down." If it was that simple, people like me wouldn't BE fat. It's not like we want to be, believe me.

I've tried that "put the fork down" thing...didn't really work. I can beat into my brain over and over again that I need to stop eating so much, but there's still times it happens. I feel like crap afterwards for doing it, which of course just means Im going to probably overeat during my next meal to drown my sorrows.

It's an addiction for some. I just wish people would stop treating fat people as if they're simply gluttonous.

One of these days, I'm gonna haul off and punch someone in the nose.

megladon8
02-18-2010, 02:57 AM
But it is. I can fit myself, with feet on the seat sideways, and still have room. If you're wider than that, sorry, fat.


No, it's body type.

I'm not fat, but having seen pictures of you I have a much wider body.

My friend Andrew is skinny as a twig, but he could never fit on a seat like that, because he's 6'6.

BuffaloWilder
02-18-2010, 03:14 AM
What bothers me about messages like that is that most of the people who say/feel this way completely disregard the fact that in a lot of cases, the overeating (if there is any at all), is due to a psychological problem that can't simply be wished away by saying "put the fork down." If it was that simple, people like me wouldn't BE fat. It's not like we want to be, believe me.

I've tried that "put the fork down" thing...didn't really work. I can beat into my brain over and over again that I need to stop eating so much, but there's still times it happens. I feel like crap afterwards for doing it, which of course just means Im going to probably overeat during my next meal to drown my sorrows.

It's an addiction for some. I just wish people would stop treating fat people as if they're simply gluttonous.

One of these days, I'm gonna haul off and punch someone in the nose.

I understand that, but - I'm also reasonably certain that cases like this, while in need of representation, are the minority, where we the larger-framed are concerned.

Actually, I just have a pot-belly that bulges off from my otherwise rippling physique, making it look like I have a distended stomach or something. It's quite weird, and I've been trying to find a good pair of ab exercises recently to try and at least give it a more cogent shape. And, I just hate exercising - any ideas, Match Cutters?

number8
02-18-2010, 04:11 AM
I'm tired of psychological problems or hormones being used as a deflection of obesity. Of course it's psychological. Gluttony itself is a psychological problem. I don't really imagine there are a lot of people running around with a goal of spitefully or pridefully being gluttonous in order to attain an obesity they desire. Most fat people want to lose weight, too, and it's a combination of various circumstances—psychological, nurtural or just plain old habitual—that lead to their inability to have that willpower to diet, exercise or eat less/healthier.

But if it's an addiction, then let's look at it like an addiction, not an external influence that can't be helped. An addiction is supposed to be extremely hard to kick. It's supposed to take a gargantuan amount of effort and resource and support, but it's still at its core a choice.

("Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only disease that you can get yelled at for having. 'Dammit Otto, you're an alcoholic,' or 'Dammit Otto, you have Lupus.' One of those two doesn't sound right." Good joke.)

As far as I'm concerned, if you're comfortable with being large-sized or unwilling to embark on that push (like, say, Kevin Smith is), that's absolutely fine—works for him. You are who you want to be, and I say the same of drug addicts. The problem is when the immediate assumption is that obese people are completely powerless, and then the sense of entitlement comes in.

Eeuughhhh god, the 12 step program is so fucking stupid.

Dead & Messed Up
02-18-2010, 04:19 AM
Actually, I just have a pot-belly that bulges off from my otherwise rippling physique, making it look like I have a distended stomach or something. It's quite weird, and I've been trying to find a good pair of ab exercises recently to try and at least give it a more cogent shape. And, I just hate exercising - any ideas, Match Cutters?

I've shaved seven pounds off my body in the past month and a half by controlling my eating habits. Breakfast: bowl of Special K (any kind) and banana. Lunch: salad and fruit. Dinner: Lean Cuisine. No soda: just juice and lots of water. But diets/habits are notoriously unreliable for more than a few people. Everyone has their own physiology and habits.

Still, portion control and focusing on the roughage could help. If nothing else, it's made me feel better.

Fezzik
02-18-2010, 12:33 PM
The problem is when the immediate assumption is that obese people are completely powerless, and then the sense of entitlement comes in.

Powerless? No, not really, but sometimes (hell, a lot of the times) you DO feel that way. There have been times I've broken down in tears because I hated how I looked, how I felt and for some reason couldn't pull myself out of it even though I knew that if I kept eating the way I did, I'd probably die.

I don't feel a sense of entitlement, believe me. Unless wanting people to stop giggling at me as I walk in a store is entitlement, or wanting to smack the college girl who came up to ask me why I was so fat is a type of entitlement.

Is it entitlement to want the same kind of support my friends and family gave to the smokers and drinkers who were trying to kick the habit? I don't think it is. I'm not asking for special treatment here, I'm just asking for support and help where I need it, instead of useless blanket "advice" that doesn't do me (or any overweight people) any good.

Ezee E
02-18-2010, 03:27 PM
Is it entitlement to want the same kind of support my friends and family gave to the smokers and drinkers who were trying to kick the habit? I don't think it is. I'm not asking for special treatment here, I'm just asking for support and help where I need it, instead of useless blanket "advice" that doesn't do me (or any overweight people) any good.


The entitlement that I think is given is that it's "okay." That they cannot fight it.

If an overweight person gets into a fitness program, takes a diet, or whatever it is that makes them start losing weight, they start getting overwhelming support and congratulations from friends when they say that they lost five pounds.

It's the start that counts to me. I completely agree with 8 on this.

BuffaloWilder
02-24-2010, 02:04 AM
I've shaved seven pounds off my body in the past month and a half by controlling my eating habits. Breakfast: bowl of Special K (any kind) and banana. Lunch: salad and fruit. Dinner: Lean Cuisine. No soda: just juice and lots of water. But diets/habits are notoriously unreliable for more than a few people. Everyone has their own physiology and habits.

Still, portion control and focusing on the roughage could help. If nothing else, it's made me feel better.


I've actually been thinking of going with a more fruit-heavy diet, of late - an orange or two for breakfast, and some other, heavier, fruit combination for lunch with tea, or water if I'm out and about. Although, I don't mean to eliminate meats entirely - they'll just be less emphasized, outside of dinner-times and whatnot.

Could work, I suppose.

number8
02-24-2010, 02:25 AM
I'm going on a "fuck you" diet. I eat whatever I want and don't exercise, but every day I stand naked in front of a mirror and if I see my stomach being less than flat, I scream at it to fuck off. Seems to be working.

Also, I take a lot of dumps.

angrycinephile
02-25-2010, 12:02 PM
This film is getting really terrible reviews.

Not that I didn't see it coming.

number8
02-25-2010, 01:24 PM
They showed a clip of the "movie quotes" interrogation on Daily Show last night and it's absolutely sad in how clueless it is about telling jokes. It's true that Smith's only strength is in the writing, not the delivery.

Adam
02-25-2010, 01:33 PM
They showed a clip of the "movie quotes" interrogation on Daily Show last night and it's absolutely sad in how clueless it is about telling jokes. It's true that Smith's only strength is in the writing, not the delivery.

Ha, really? Speaking in my capacity as a guy who has no interest whatsoever in seeing Cop Out, I thought that clip was surprisingly hilarious and even semi-reminiscent of classic 30 Rock in its lightning-paced kookery

number8
02-25-2010, 01:44 PM
Ha, really? Speaking in my capacity as a guy who has no interest whatsoever in seeing Cop Out, I thought that clip was surprisingly hilarious and even semi-reminiscent of classic 30 Rock in its lightning-paced kookery

The Bruce Willis reaction cutaways killed it. I don't need him standing there just naming the movie references. And the last punchline is terrible. Wouldn't "Never heard of it" been better than "I haven't seen that movie"?

Spun Lepton
02-25-2010, 10:13 PM
The Bruce Willis reaction cutaways killed it. I don't need him standing there just naming the movie references. And the last punchline is terrible. Wouldn't "Never heard of it" been better than "I haven't seen that movie"?

100% agreed, even though Willis's delivery of the line made me laugh.

Skitch
03-01-2010, 10:10 PM
The comedy bits were hysterical, the 'buddy cop movie' bits were terrible, Sean William Scott stole the show, and Trracy Morgan was hilarious.

Meh +2.

Dukefrukem
01-23-2021, 12:14 PM
OMG this was terrible. Was only watching to finish Smith's filmography but boy...

transmogrifier
01-23-2021, 12:38 PM
OMG this was terrible. Was only watching to finish Smith's filmography but boy...

Here I am slightly dreading getting ready to watch Me and Orson Welles, Last Flag Flying, and Where'd You Go, Bernadette to round out my Linklater filmography, and then I realize, it could be a lot, lot worse.

Dukefrukem
01-23-2021, 12:42 PM
Here I am slightly dreading getting ready to watch Me and Orson Welles, Last Flag Flying, and Where'd You Go, Bernadette to round out my Linklater filmography, and then I realize, it could be a lot, lot worse.

My wife wanted to watch a "cop movie" but she was also tired so she didn't want to put a lot of effort in; I threw this out as an example as something I've wanted to complete for a while. We could barely get through it. Every joke misses. Every joke structure is broken.

The above example that number8 mentions is a perfect example. Why is Bruce Willis naming all the movie references? WE GET IT!

Bruce Willis looked like he didn't want to be here.

Lazlo
01-23-2021, 01:09 PM
Here I am slightly dreading getting ready to watch Me and Orson Welles, Last Flag Flying, and Where'd You Go, Bernadette to round out my Linklater filmography, and then I realize, it could be a lot, lot worse.

Haven't seen the other two but Last Flag Flying is great and was highly underrated on its release. Carrell in particular impressed me a lot.

transmogrifier
01-23-2021, 01:12 PM
Haven't seen the other two but Last Flag Flying is great and was highly underrated on its release. Carrell in particular impressed me a lot.

That's the pep talk I needed!

Lazlo
01-23-2021, 01:20 PM
That's the pep talk I needed!

Happy to be of service. Good luck!

Skitch
01-23-2021, 02:24 PM
Bruce Willis looked like he didn't want to be here.
He didnt. Most of the movie is first takes and a lot of scenes Willis refused to even shoot. Smith said it was all he could do to put the movie together because of such limited shots and Willis being incredibly difficult.

Ezee E
01-23-2021, 02:46 PM
He didnt. Most of the movie is first takes and a lot of scenes Willis refused to even shoot. Smith said it was all he could do to put the movie together because of such limited shots and Willis being incredibly difficult.

Must've had a weak contract to not fire and be able to reshoot.

Skitch
01-23-2021, 02:59 PM
Must've had a weak contract to not fire and be able to reshoot.

I'd bet it was low budget and Willis the huge star get, so he could do as he pleased.

megladon8
01-23-2021, 04:21 PM
I used to love Bruce Willis, but he has become one of the most unlikable people in the business.

Skitch
01-23-2021, 04:28 PM
I used to love Bruce Willis, but he has become one of the most unlikable people in the business.

No shit. Its sad.

Dukefrukem
01-23-2021, 04:36 PM
He didnt. Most of the movie is first takes and a lot of scenes Willis refused to even shoot. Smith said it was all he could do to put the movie together because of such limited shots and Willis being incredibly difficult.

If this is true, then not only does it show, but it's weird how he continues to act in these low budget films to begin with.

Skitch
01-23-2021, 04:40 PM
If this is true, then not only does it show, but it's weird how he continues to act in these low budget films to begin with.

Smith has talked very publicly how much of an asshole Willis was...some really shitty stuff...and then said "I'm not even telling you the really bad stuff."

Willis then made that Rian Johnson movie. Smith interviewed Johnson, and Johnson said he had absolutely none of the problems with Willis that Smith did. He was always on time, enthused to work, polite...completely opposite. Smith said he assumes maybe its because it was a paycheck gig and not a wholly original unique project. Len Wiseman got a an ulcer from working with Willis on Die Hard 4 lol. Who knows, maybe the guy is bipolar.

megladon8
01-23-2021, 06:24 PM
If this is true, then not only does it show, but it's weird how he continues to act in these low budget films to begin with.

Allegedly his alimony is pretty insane. So he does these movies purely for the paycheck.

Did you ever see the clips from the press tour for Red/Red 2 (I forget which it was)?

He is flat out rude and unpleasant. Says straight up he doesn't want to be there or be doing it.

Not to derail the thread (can a 10 year old thread be derailed?) but stuff like that and how Joe Pesci was such a miserable twat doing press for The Irishman really makes me lose respect for these people.

They're not newcomers. Both Pesci and Willis have been in the business for 40+ years. They know what comes with signing the contract to do a movie.

If you're going to be that much of a douche to fans and the press, either have your lawyer(s) negotiate a contract so you are left out of the press tours, or don't take the role.

I feel the same way about the A list celebs who complain about how they can't go in public anymore without being recognized or bothered. Zero sympathy.

Being pestered at home by paparazzi is one thing. Those paparazzi are scumbags of a high order.

But complaining about the usual stuff that comes with being a celebrity (being recognized in public and asked for pics/ autographs, doing interviews, making appearances, etc.) is such crap.

"Being rich and famous comes with a whole other set of problems". Okay, cool. Give me a call, I'll happily trade.

Skitch
01-23-2021, 06:40 PM
YES. Smith said at one point they were between shots and he was standing with Willis on sidewalk. A car drove by and a guy waved and shouted "Yipee kiyay mother fucker!" He said Willis said "Of all the fans, I hate those the most", and walked away (or something to that effect).

Like holy shit dude. Maybe Skynard hates Free Bird and maybe Zepplin hates Stairway, but c'mon. I don't get it. You don't have to wave or smile or give an autograph...thats just a hateful spoiled cunt.

Skitch
01-23-2021, 06:44 PM
And to be perfectly clear, I don't think Cop Out would've been a good movie even IF Willis was all in lol. I sure am a Smith fan, but I'm also reasonable.

DFA1979
01-24-2021, 05:28 AM
I rewatched this last year. It's definitely one of Smith's weaker movies but I still laughed at it anyways. The jokes sometimes worked, other times they fell flat. The wedding subplot is lame. I liked when Scott showed up as he was hilarious and probably should have been a bigger part of the movie.

Skitch
01-24-2021, 08:56 AM
Easily Smith's bottom two, but the knock knock no no nope bit slays me. I dont think it matters how shitty a movie is, Tracy Morgan has my funny bone in a death grip.

DFA1979
01-24-2021, 05:46 PM
Easily Smith's bottom two, but the knock knock no no nope bit slays me. I dont think it matters how shitty a movie is, Tracy Morgan has my funny bone in a death grip.

That part is the best part of the movie. Also Morgan is a large part of why I gave it a 7.

Dukefrukem
01-24-2021, 11:42 PM
That part is the best part of the movie. Also Morgan is a large part of why I gave it a 7.

IF this movie is a 7 on your scale, what's a 2?

DFA1979
01-26-2021, 06:30 AM
IF this movie is a 7 on your scale, what's a 2?

It's a 2. My rating system is pretty basic compared to a lot of others around here. Ratings don't mean shit in the end anyways what matters is what you write about the movie and what you got out of it. And I only write for myself.