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Derek
05-19-2010, 02:27 AM
No, it's completely relevant still, with statistics showing that a large number of women in the work force are still paid significantly less than the men who work beside (or in some cases even below) them.
Plus, there's the stereotype that a successful business woman has to be a cold, heartless bitch. Which I kind of agree with in general terms, but it's not just women. Many successful business men are cold, heartless assholes as well. Just kind of goes with the cut-throat nature of the business world.
I joked about "modern" in that Iron Man 2's thematic relevance to modern women's place in the work place is about 30 years outdated. Although that would be crediting it with actually dealing with said theme, which it doesn't, at all.
MadMan
05-19-2010, 04:18 AM
Well in the end Iron Man 2 is a merely a blockbuster, and the fact that it had anything worthy of noting political or otherwise is incredible to me. As in the fact that most blockbusters are big, dumb explosion filled movies, although that can be applied to Iron Man 2 as well.
After some more thought today, I realized that blow-back definantly applies to both Iron Man movies, but especially the second one. Plus a bunch more other items that I should work into that essay, and yes I agree with Raiders that military-industrial complex was discussed and covered, although in a limited fashion. I'm sure that Gary Shandling's senator wasn't really a call for libertarianism, so much as once again Hollywood painting Congress and government bureaucrats as being heavy handed, stupid, and out of touch with reality, among other things.
Grouchy
05-19-2010, 07:23 AM
Libertarianism, yo.
Pretty much. Anything else is kind of pushing it.
Anyway, I think the movie walks a gray moral area in that it doesn't completely let Stark Industries off the hook. I mean, although the point isn't pushed to far, it's implied that the villain was created by Stark's backstabbing asshole of a father.
SirNewt
05-27-2010, 04:08 AM
Honestly the film is a glorification of the repugnant behavior that finds us in our current economic situation, excess with limit. If you can switch off your brain its a lot of fun. If you can't, you're fully justified in despising it.
Rowland
06-04-2010, 07:46 PM
The script for this thing is retarded. All I can say that's really positive about the movie is that most of the performances rise above the perfunctory material, and Scarlett Jo. looks ridiculously sexy in a vacant kinda way. All in all, a significant downgrade from the original.
Sxottlan
10-04-2010, 03:21 AM
I've debated getting this on disc, but there are times I think back on this movie and I think it ultimately added up to a whole lot of nuttin'.
Dukefrukem
10-05-2010, 12:16 PM
I've debated getting this on disc, but there are times I think back on this movie and I think it ultimately added up to a whole lot of nuttin'.
This movie was bad. Everything about it was a lousy sloppy mess, with the exception of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DCjWd5WUM).
megladon8
10-05-2010, 04:16 PM
This movie was bad. Everything about it was a lousy sloppy mess, with the exception of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DCjWd5WUM).
Why are there so many idiots there thinking it's Cloud's sword from "FF7"?
Where the hell do they get that from? And why would that be in Iron Man 2?
Dukefrukem
10-05-2010, 04:19 PM
LOL. I was hoping someone would pick up on that.
Why are there so many idiots there thinking it's Cloud's sword from "FF7"?
Where the hell do they get that from? And why would that be in Iron Man 2?
Are there really a lot of people who genuinely believe that? I get a good laugh out of it, and see it as a joke.
megladon8
10-11-2010, 10:39 PM
Are there really a lot of people who genuinely believe that? I get a good laugh out of it, and see it as a joke.
It seemed from the comments section that yeah, there are several who really thought it was supposed to be Cloud's sword.
transmogrifier
10-12-2010, 12:04 AM
This movie is currently filed in the "I'll Watch It Only if My Wife Wants to Watch It For Some Reason" basket.
Dead & Messed Up
12-04-2011, 12:22 AM
Pretty misguided film. Much feels incomplete, from the dueling dad theme to the Avengers seed-planting, and the rest feels generally lame, especially the uber-lame Iron Man face-off during the party, when Don Cheadle decides that a drunk Iron Man is far too dangerous for the party, so clearly the party needs another Iron Man with limited Iron Manning experience.
Rockwell and Rourke kept my interest. The rest felt like re-heated leftovers.
transmogrifier
12-04-2011, 01:06 AM
This movie is currently filed in the "I'll Watch It Only if My Wife Wants to Watch It For Some Reason" basket.
And she did. Better than the first one, but still pretty shoddy. If your basic story is as dull as this, you need a lot of interesting stuff going on in the margins. Pity Favreau has little to no directorial personality.
megladon8
12-04-2011, 02:35 AM
Better than the first one? Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Dead & Messed Up
12-04-2011, 02:42 AM
Better than the first one? Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Yeah, this makes no sense to me. The first one was more focused, fresher, had a better villain.
megladon8
12-04-2011, 02:46 AM
At least the first was a coherent narrative.
The second was a feature-length advertisement for The Avengers with sprinkles of a story that felt more like Iron Man 1.5 than a sequel.
It was really bad.
Morris Schæffer
12-04-2011, 07:48 AM
I'm inclined to agree it ain't better than the first one, but boy is that margin agonizingly small.
transmogrifier
12-04-2011, 07:52 AM
I barely remember a thing about the first one. Except that it was boring. At least the second one has
a) No need for yet another turgid origin story
b) Scarlett Johanson in tight pants
Ergo, better than the first one.
Ezee E
12-04-2011, 08:06 AM
I barely remember a thing about the first one. Except that it was boring. At least the second one has
a) No need for yet another turgid origin story
b) Scarlett Johanson in tight pants
Ergo, better than the first one.
While we all like Scarlett in tight pants, it was actually an origin story that was... Good? to me at least. And heck, Gwyneath ain't bad herself.
Hmm... come to think of it, it may be the best origin story of superheros that I can think of. As far as its translation to film.
Dukefrukem
12-04-2011, 01:44 PM
I barely remember a thing about the first one. Except that it was boring. At least the second one has
a) No need for yet another turgid origin story
b) Scarlett Johanson in tight pants
Ergo, better than the first one.
As I said before,
The only thing better about the 2nd one over the first is this 10 seconds
http://www.deviantart.com/download/156961298/IRON_MAN_2_suit_gif_by_petri5i ed.gif
Morris Schæffer
12-04-2011, 02:06 PM
Hmm... come to think of it, it may be the best origin story of superheros that I can think of. As far as its translation to film.
well, that makes no sense since we have Superman 1978. Right buddy? Right?
Ezee E
12-04-2011, 04:39 PM
well, that makes no sense since we have Superman 1978. Right buddy? Right?
Still gonna stick to my guns on this one.
transmogrifier
12-04-2011, 04:42 PM
As tempting as it is to engage in the defence of a middling superhero film, I think I'd much rather go and count the holes in my air vent.
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