Sangre, cuchillos, y tetas --- Horror Film Discussion

[Skitch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo_c5lu0W0k

[Dukefrukem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=133&v=jvccIjVM4tw

[Morris Schæffer]

https://youtu.be/dbtf8Y9H64I

[Irish]

https://i.imgur.com/R4g1niK.jpg?1

Happy Halloween, everyone!

(Except for Meg, because he's a BULLSHIT ARTIST)

[Wryan]

Watched A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night. Absolutely ravishing. Totally entranced me, even if there's not a lot there there. That fucking shape of her in the dark cloak thing (unsure of appropriate garment name), shot from a distance and slightly blurred...creepy as shit. Also, the whole thing was beautiful.

[megladon8]

https://i.imgur.com/R4g1niK.jpg?1

Happy Halloween, everyone!

(Except for Meg, because he's a BULLSHIT ARTIST)


Whatever.

Go back to making olive oil in your bedroom.

[Ivan Drago]

Does anyone know if the cut of The Devils on The Criterion Channel is the X-rated version or not? Either way, I've started it.....and I'm into it so far.

[MadMan]

Watched A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night. Absolutely ravishing. Totally entranced me, even if there's not a lot there there. That fucking shape of her in the dark cloak thing (unsure of appropriate garment name), shot from a distance and slightly blurred...creepy as shit. Also, the whole thing was beautiful.

I love that movie.

Tonight I watched Happy Birthday To Me after I got home from work. Fairly decent 80s slasher with a great ending.

[Dukefrukem]

Happy Halloween (the morning after!)

I scared kids last night. (https://video.nest.com/clip/a6f8035ee15d4ef39af4084015fbd0 23.mp4)

I reward them with the big candy bars.

[transmogrifier]

I really like a good horror film. But why are so many of them so crap?

[Irish]

But why are so many of them so crap?

Low budgets, low expectations, low barriers --- all combined with a rabid fanbase that will watch just about anything, God bless 'em.

[Dukefrukem]

Low budgets, low expectations, low barriers --- all combined with a rabid fanbase that will watch just about anything, God bless 'em.

It's more than that too. 99% of the studio releases are made for profit only; meaning studios know they can buy cheap scripts, and fill them with cheap actors on a $3 million budget and give it an October or January release date and it will gross 3-5x that in theaters. Very rarely do passion projects like Get Out and Hereditary come along.

Look at films like The Slender Man or the Bye Bye Man or Wish Upon.

RLM has an excellent video on the ladder two examples. https://youtu.be/K1m3rGh6DUI?t=1216

[Irish]

I kinda dig that you watched "Bye Bye Man" and are still bitter about it. :D

[Dukefrukem]

I kinda dig that you watched "Bye Bye Man" and are still bitter about it. :D

I want to assign homework assignments to everyone on MC so they can experience what I experienced.

[Irish]

BTW, trans, Meg usually has a good recommendation or two if you're looking for something to watch.

[Irish]

I want to assign homework assignments to everyone on MC so they can experience what I experienced.

LOL, dude, at this point I am very nearly tempted.

[Dukefrukem]

LOL, dude, at this point I am very nearly tempted.

It's on NETFLIX! (https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-bye-bye-man)

[Irish]

It's on NETFLIX! (https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-bye-bye-man)

LOOOOOOOOOL literally came here to post that

It's 19% on RT, which is bad for any movie but not dealbreaker when it comes to horror.

I'm gonna watch it this weeked. :D

[Dukefrukem]

LOOOOOOOOOL literally came here to post that

It's 19% on RT, which is bad for any movie but not dealbreaker when it comes to horror.

I'm gonna watch it this weeked. :D

Seriously, if it's not the worst or second worst movie you've ever seen, I'll be shocked.

It's a tie with Wish Upon, which is on Prime! (https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/wish-upon)

Edit: and both made money

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt5322012/?ref_=bo_se_r_1

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt4030600/?ref_=bo_se_r_1

[transmogrifier]

Low budgets, low expectations, low barriers --- all combined with a rabid fanbase that will watch just about anything, God bless 'em.

Yeah.... I guess. I still feel the need to watch the Child's Play reboot for some reason and see that they have turned all the death scenes into some weird Final Destination-esque combination of convoluted happenings resulting in a gory death.

[Dukefrukem]

Yeah.... I guess. I still feel the need to watch the Child's Play reboot for some reason and see that they have turned all the death scenes into some weird Final Destination-esque combination of convoluted happenings resulting in a gory death.

Sounds like you already saw it.

[transmogrifier]

Sounds like you already saw it.

I did. It was bad.

[Ivan Drago]

Wish Upon was one of my favorite watches the year it came out because it was so terrible, it was hilarious.

[Irish]

Seriously, if it's not the worst or second worst movie you've ever seen, I'll be shocked.

Setting a high bar there! I've seen some pretty bad horror movies.

But I might keep a 6 pack close by while I'm watching, Scar style.

This'll be fun :D

[Dukefrukem]

Setting a high bar there! I've seen some pretty bad horror movies.

But I might keep a 6 pack close by while I'm watching, Scar style.

This'll be fun :D

Studio theatrical releases. Not direct to video/DVD stuff.

You know what would be fun, if we were able to record a match cut audio commentary track.

[Irish]

Studio theatrical releases. Not direct to video/DVD stuff.

You know what would be fun, if we were able to record a match cut audio commentary track.

That would be awesome! But in the meantime you need to check out skitch's podcast

[Skitch]

I want to assign homework assignments to everyone on MC so they can experience what I experienced.

I play that game weekly, I'm good lol

[MadMan]

Happy Halloween (the morning after!)

I scared kids last night. (https://video.nest.com/clip/a6f8035ee15d4ef39af4084015fbd0 23.mp4)

I reward them with the big candy bars.

Heh, found footage. Alright.

I liked the new Child's Play. It was good fun.

[MadMan]

Horror is like any other genre. There's the good, the bad and the ugly. Maybe I just lower my expectations because of modern cinema. I donno.

[Irish]

https://i.imgur.com/KnPd3Qf.jpg

[Scar]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

[Skitch]

hahahahahaha

[Dukefrukem]

https://i.imgur.com/KnPd3Qf.jpg

bWHAHAHHA.

Tell me more.

[megladon8]

MadMan what the hell is your avatar? ��

[Grouchy]

MadMan what the hell is your avatar? ��
After Hours

[Irish]

bWHAHAHHA.

Tell me more.

Oh dude where to start.

I can't really gauge it accurately because I knew going in that it would suck, so I spent the first 40 minutes or so just laughing my ass off. I have to admit I was entertained by the so-bad-its-goodness. Everything about it was awkward and cheesy and desperate.

After that, it got tedious because they ramped up the violence and the film started taking itself waaaaay too seriously (which was a mistake, because the whole thing is so ridiculous why not at least have some fun with it?).

I liked part of the premise --- the idea of this evil spectre making people go crazy --- but it's implemented in the dumbest way possible.

I also liked the attempt at mythology, even though they fumbled everything about it. Every other scene, especially in the back half, is wall-to-wall exposition but the movie never bothers to explain its own details, like all that shit with gold coins and the ghost trains.

The opening has some really bizarre editing and lensing choices and made the film look super-amateurish. I burst out laughing every time they cut to what was obviously a super-long lens that distorted the image because oooh spooky horror!

And OMFG the acting. The dialogue is atrocious and horribly stiff but holy shit these were genuinely some of the worst performances I've seen by people who were (probably?) making guild scale. (How are Faye Dunaway and Carrie Ann Moss in this? They couldn't have been paid much.)

Like, literally every scene I was almost awestruck because the actors kept outdoing each other in terrible line readings and seriously inappropriate expressions. The lead dude kept smiling as if he were trying to be affable and charming but it came across as weird and creepy.

And the creature! Jesus. Whose idea was it to get Doug Jones and make him up like a desiccated old man wearing a ratty black bathrobe? How was that supposed to be scary? He looked like an undead edgelord.

They tried to combine supernatural, psychological, and slasher horror and failed miserably. What was all that shit about "oh, noes, if you say his name or think about him, he gets stronger! he can hear you and he'll get closer"? When the Bye Bye Man shows up, he never actually does anything! He just stands around and points at people. It doesn't matter if he's in the scene or not. People still freak out, hallucinate, and try to kill or commit suicide. So wtf is the point of that character?

How the hell did this movie get released into 2,200 theaters? This was extremely close to being an Ed Wood level production, but with a decent budget.

I looked it up on RT afterwards and received another big WTF. Critics from The New York Times, The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, LA Times, Indiewire, New York Newsday, The Ringer, and Uproxx ALL gave it a "FRESH" rating. We're talking about people like Glenn Kenny, Katie Walsh, Owen Gleiberman, Keith Phipps, and K Austin Collins. Like, are they fucking kidding?

This is a terrible movie. It's not well directed, shot, written or acted. The story is severely dumb and gets dumber with each passing minute. So how they hell can anyone writing for a legit outlet recommend it? I mean, ffs, even the fly-by-night horror blogs said it sucked and went thumbs down. I saw this on Netflix and I still feel cheated, like these fucking critics should reimburse me for time spent.

ETA: On the bright side, it's pretty well paced. 90 minutes and it never dragged. And I did have a good time with the opening, and if pressed I'll admit that the movie is consistent --- it's insanely bad all the way through. I wouldn't have believed the ending, with the two brothers in a crisis moment and the little girl peeing in the bushes (?!!?) if I hadn't seen it myself.

TL;DR: Naturally, Scar, Meg, and Skitch should see this movie immediately. Don't let me die alone, guys. I need to pass the curse along and be free of it!

[Dukefrukem]

I'm so happy I'm now not the only one who say through it.

Like, what was the deal with the coins in the drawers? Or the train? Or the hound? None of it made any sense.

And if the crazy guy at the beginning of the film needed to kill everyone who already knew about the BYE BYE MAN, otherwise, the BYE BYE Man would kill them, isn't that redundant? If he doesn't want anyone to know about it, then why did he write it in the bottom of a drawer? And how did his wife survive? NONE OF IT MAKES ANY SENSE!!!

[Irish]

I'm so happy I'm now not the only one who say through it.

Like, what was the deal with the coins in the drawers? Or the train? Or the hound? None of it made any sense.

And if the crazy guy at the beginning of the film needed to kill everyone who already knew about the BYE BYE MAN, otherwise, the BYE BYE Man would kill them, isn't that redundant? If he doesn't want anyone to know about it, then why did he write it in the bottom of a drawer? And how did his wife survive? NONE OF IT MAKES ANY SENSE!!!

LOL YEP!!!

My favorite part was the police interrogation scene between Carrie Ann Moss and the lead actor.

He refuses to tell her what's going on, because the premise prohibits him from saying the name "Bye Bye Man," but the character is too fucking stupid to describe the situation in literally ANY OTHER WAY. Like, why couldn't he just say, "There's an evil spirit that's haunting us, making us see things, and causing us to lose our minds and kill each other"?

[MadMan]

MadMan what the hell is your avatar? ��

What Grouchy said. I found that pic on Twitter or Instagram. I love that shot. I really wonder why it's not a Criterion already.

[MadMan]

Irish and Duke have sold me on seeing The Bye Bye Man haha.

[Skitch]

TL;DR: Naturally, Scar, Meg, and Skitch should see this movie immediately. Don't let me die alone, guys. I need to pass the curse along and be free of it!
My co-host watched it. Just coming off horrorthon, I'm gooooooooood on that. I will sometime, but I need a week or two off of the garbage.

[megladon8]

Watched Hellraiser 3: Hell on Earth last night for the first time in probably 15 years. It was the only main series entry missing from my collection until I found it in a budget set -absolutely barebones, doesn’t even have subs or widescreen.

And wow, what an awful movie. I swear even the embarrassing fourth film, Bloodline, is better. At least it isn’t so damned boring.

I tells ya, when a movie that was famously disowned by its director is better than yours, you gotta start the introspection a bit.

The three new Cenobytes (camera guy, CD guy, and...uhhh...booze guy?) are just dumb.

But the most troubling trend that it continues from the second film is giving Pinhead a bunch of Freddy-esque one liners after kills. It just doesn’t work with this universe and the tone of the films. Pinhead is damned iconic, but it’s startling how quickly he became a joke in his own films.

Awful stuff. Dumb, incoherent (why are the Cenobytes all trapped in an art project at the beginning???), horrid acting and writing, and the only possible saving grace it could have had (a cool finale with all the Cenobytes) never delivers.

[Grouchy]

The only thing I remember from that is the scene where they impale the guy on CDs. Such a time capsule moment.

[Scar]

TL;DR: Naturally, Scar, Meg, and Skitch should see this movie immediately. Don't let me die alone, guys. I need to pass the curse along and be free of it!

Ugh. I just replaced the bathroom sink and plumbing. I'm not in the mood for crap. Remind me after a few more beers.

[MadMan]

Huh I kind of like Hellraiser III. There is enough gory nonsense to keep me entertained.

[Dukefrukem]

Nah Hellraiser 3 is bad. My Letterboxed review

Uncut Version: Somehow, from the previous movie, Pinhead is trapped inside the pillar of souls. A sculpture that seemingly appears out of nowhere at an art exhibit. An owner of a nightclub buys the sculpture, and it causes people's heads to explode.

I like the setting of this movie; takes place in the heart of NYC. Story revolves around a struggling reporter, Joey (Terry Farrell from Star Trek Deep Space Nine), trying to make it big as a news anchor but can't catch a break.

Acting, like the first two films, destroys the flow of this movie as does the the way the characters are introduced to the Hell that is Pinhead. Dialog is god awful. "I like boiling water it's a specialty of mine" is an actual line out of the film.

This film is mostly crap; except for the one scene where the sculpture comes alive and eats the skin off one of the nightclub owner's girls.

This movie also has the nightclub slaughter scene where Pinhead mows down everyone with chains.

Gore-7/10
Acting-3/10
Nudity-4/10
Story-2/10
Cheese-5/10
-----------------------------
So Bad It's Amazing Factor(0/10)

The last 5 movies getting a single star or lower.

1. Hellraiser 1987
2. Hellraiser: Inferno 2000
3. Hellbound: Hellraiser II 1988
4. Hellraiser: Judgment 2018
5. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth 1992
6. Hellraiser: Bloodline 1996
7. Hellraiser: Hellworld 2005
8. Hellraiser: Hellseeker 2002
9. Hellraiser: Deader 2005
10. Hellraiser: Revelations 2011

[Skitch]

Duke, whether I agree with your opinion or not, I appreciate the way you rate a movie. Gives a good insight into the different aspects.

[Dukefrukem]

Duke, whether I agree with your opinion or not, I appreciate the way you rate a movie. Gives a good insight into the different aspects.

Thanks, may I ask what specifically? Is it the rankings at the end? Because I only do that with horror franchises, or if I'm coming out with an 'Top 20 Best 80 Horror Film' list. I think we are due for another game.

[Skitch]

Thanks, may I ask what specifically? Is it the rankings at the end? Because I only do that with horror franchises, or if I'm coming out with an 'Top 20 Best 80 Horror Film' list. I think we are due for another game.

The gore, acting, nudity, cheese bits.

[Peng]

A couple of Netflix Halloween-month watching:

Pyscho II (1983)

I would have seriously loved this back in my Blockbuster rental spree days. But even if the mix of original's baggage and 80's slasher style/plotting isn't wholly successful, the borderline-on-reverence obsession for Norman Bates, from both the filmmakers and other characters in the film, make for an engaging plot device. And Perkins is so good, not a character beat out of place more than 20 years later, that he elevates the rest of the film along with him. 7/10

Sleepy Hollow (1999)

Apart from Depp’s amusingly and hammily mannered Crane (whose scientific rigor is so set that he needs a few fainting spells before coming around on the supernatural), the story and characters are so simplistic as to verge on almost flatlining those production design and action scenes, which is quite an impressive feat. Still, it’s too gorgeous, supremely atmospheric, and even at times exciting that wandering around in this world for a couple of hours remains somewhat a pleasure. 6.5/10

[MadMan]

Aww I love Sleepy Hollow. Scared me in middle school, by high school it became one of my favorite horrors. I appreciate it even more now after years of seeing Hammer and Mario Bava films.

[megladon8]

Sleepy Hollow is one of the most visually arresting movies ever made.

[transmogrifier]

The Burton's that matter, in order:

1. Ed Wood
2. Edward Scissorhands
3. Batman Returns
4. Sleepy Hollow

[Peng]

My top 4 of his (many subjected to rewatch, especially #4) would be

1. Pee-wee’s Big Adventure
2. Beetlejuice
3. Ed Wood
4. Batman Returns

[TGM]

Sweeney Todd (aka, his best movie) is noticeably absent from both those lists. >.>

[Dukefrukem]

Sleepy Hollow is as average as it gets.

[Grouchy]

Sleepy Hollow is beautiful and an amazing film and yeah, it gets even better as one gets more literate in classic Horror.

[megladon8]

Sleepy Hollow is as average as it gets.

Writing wise, yep.

But it is so visually sumptuous I freaking adore it. It’s like watching a gothic art exhibit for 2 hours.

[Ezee E]

I like the cartoon more in both regards.

Will that be on Disney+?

[Grouchy]

What cartoon?

[Ezee E]

What cartoon?

Guess it's called Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad

[Irish]

https://i.imgur.com/QrSGLTh.png?1

^ I saw this poll just now & immediately thought of Duke, lol

[Dukefrukem]

https://i.imgur.com/QrSGLTh.png?1

^ I saw this poll just now & immediately thought of Duke, lol

Hahah. I'm happy the Lights Out lost the poll because it's actually got some good stuff in it. Pet Sematary was bad, but not worst of the decade bad. Off the top of my head, Wish Upon needs to be on here and that one with Olivia Wilde.

[Scar]

So glad I haven’t watched any of those.

Random question: What are some of the newer decent horror flicks people have seen? Been awhile since I fired one up.

[megladon8]

Maybe not "newer" but have you seen the British werewolves-on-a-train flick Howl?

I think it was 2015 or so. It's pretty darn good.

[Scar]

‘New to you’ works for me too. Haven’t seen that one.

[Irish]

So glad I haven’t watched any of those.

Random question: What are some of the newer decent horror flicks people have seen? Been awhile since I fired one up.

Weirdly, the best I've seen recently have been French:

- Revenge (2017)
- Raw (2016)
- Night Eats the World (2018)

Of those 3, I think you'd get a kick out of "Revenge," which starts out ugly and gets increasingly crazy, violent, and bloody as it goes on. "Raw" is disturbing and to date it's the only horror movie that has made me involuntarily gag. (Like, I had to concentrate and breathe deep through my nose to avoid the nausea.) "Night Eats the World" is like a lo-fi, chill version of "I am Legend," about a guy stuck in an apartment building during a zombie apocolypse & man he's just trying to figure shit out. "Raw" and "Night Eats the World" both lean more toward the arthouse than the grindhouse, though.

[Irish]

Also, I haven't seen it yet but I've heard great things about "Tigers are Not Afraid." Several pubs had it at the top of their "best ofs" last year. It's on Shudder now.

ETA: There's some great picks in Meg's Hidden Gems thread (http://matchcut.artboiled.com/showthread.php?7662-Hidden-Gems). If you haven't seen it, I'd heartily recommend "Let Sleeping Corpses Lie."

[megladon8]

Also, I haven't seen it yet but I've heard great things about "Tigers are Not Afraid." Several pubs had it at the top of their "best ofs" last year. It's on Shudder now.

ETA: There's some great picks in Meg's Hidden Gems thread (http://matchcut.artboiled.com/showthread.php?7662-Hidden-Gems). If you haven't seen it, I'd heartily recommend "Let Sleeping Corpses Lie."

Okay, Irish...what is it you want?

[MadMan]

Raw and Revenge are both great flicks.

[Ivan Drago]

Not sure if this counts as a horror movie, but I got to see a 35mm print of The Keep at my local arthouse theater last night. The practical effects were awesome as are the production design and score, and I loved the dark, fantastical tone. However, the story aims to say something profound about fanaticism, extremism and evil as a construct, but was largely incoherent throughout, and the sound mix made a lot of the dialogue incomprehensible. It's unfortunate that was the result of studio meddling, because there's an effort to be something unique right from the opening frame. As someone who loves this kind of mind-bending epic sci-fi, I'm glad to have seen it in a theater. It's very much an amalgam of Legend, Prince of Darkness and Hellraiser and that was pretty cool.

[megladon8]

I'm so jealous, Ivan. That movie is astoundingly hard to acquire or view.

As both a horror hound and a huge Michael Mann fan, I am super mega jealous.

[Skitch]

I saw The Keep once but it was a really shitty rip.

[MadMan]

I would like to see The Keep at some point.

[Irish]

Btw, Shudder is offering a free 30 day trial right now with the promo code SHUTIN:

https://twitter.com/Shudder/status/1239250680503730176

[megladon8]

Shouldn't it be SHUDIN?

[megladon8]

The Poughkeepsie Tapes was thoroughly unpleasant.

Not only is the subject matter just awful, it's robbed of any sincerity by poor acting and writing that dont deliver on its "this really happened" premise.

There is one scene/shot that has become legendary online particularly in the cesspools of 4Chan and Reddit, and it is legitimately chilling.

The rest is poorly executed torture porn, surrounded by mediocre-at-best faux documentary footage that robs the movie of any real tension or legitimacy.

Big disappointment.

[Pop Trash]

Can I get some opinions up in here on the FINAL DESTINATION series? Are the 4th and 5th ones worth watching? It looks like the c/w is that the 4th one is not very good but the 5th one is?

I've watched the first three now. Like the 1st & 3rd ones the best. The 2nd one is alright. Love the opening duplicate car crash pile-up opening, but it kinda deflates in the second half. I think James Wong (who helmed 1 & 3) is a better visual storyteller than the dude who did part 2. Some of the red herring random object Rube Goldberg setpieces in Part 3 are unreal. Those must be insane to edit.

[Dukefrukem]

Can I get some opinions up in here on the FINAL DESTINATION series? Are the 4th and 5th ones worth watching? It looks like the c/w is that the 4th one is not very good but the 5th one is?

I've watched the first three now. Like the 1st & 3rd ones the best. The 2nd one is alright. Love the opening duplicate car crash pile-up opening, but it kinda deflates in the second half. I think James Wong (who helmed 1 & 3) is a better visual storyteller than the dude who did part 2. Some of the red herring random object Rube Goldberg setpieces in Part 3 are unreal. Those must be insane to edit.

The fourth one is the only movie I've ever walked out of ever.

The fifth one is return to form and ties in nicely with the first one.

1 > 5 > 2 >>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4

i'm surprised you put 3 ahead of 2. The highway sequence is MUCh more interesting than a roller-coaster. Plus the characters in the third suck.

[Skitch]

I've seen first 3, but intend to watch rest when I can. I think 2 has the most inventive kills and its super gory. 1 was decent. 3 I remember not thinking much of and couldn't currently tell you anything except a roller coaster accident and M.E.W. Its been a long time since I've watched any of them though.

[Peng]

3 > 2 > 5 > 1 >= 4

I'm torn on ranking of the last two because 1 has a better story but also, from my long-ago memory, is the worst-directed one? (I remember the editing and direction feeling very shoddy and erratic in the moment) 2 is the best directed and also has the best inciting incident. 3 has Mary Elizabeth Winstead giving the best, most relatable lead performance, the best storyflow and set-pieces. 4 feels more occupied with filming for 3D above everything else, although a set-piece in the pool is hilariously gnarly. 5 slides into full-on Rube Goldberg-trap cartoon mode which has its pleasures.

[Pop Trash]

Ya'll are nuts. The opening double fakeout car pile-up is good, and well made (as I said) but 2 has some stoopid directing choices of having the premonitions look like CGI "trippy" dream sequences that look really cheesy. Plus the characters are kinda lame, but funny in a very '00s way. The coke snorting bro who's like somewhere between the sixth member of The Strokes and a roadie for Nickelback. That weird mid '00s era when rocker doods were somewhere between the late '90s nu metal era and the up and coming garage punk revival stuff.

1 & 3 are well made, or at least the direction doesn't do any dumb visual things. 1 is fresh, doesn't have to rely on "oh hey this happened" throwbacks to previous events like the sequels, and gets lots of mileage out of the eerie 9/11 predicting plane explosion. 3 is back to high school friends, which I like and has some nuts red herrings (I especially like the Rube Goldberg set-up of the hardware store). Plus it has MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWW WWWWWWWW.

Anyway, sounds like I can skip 4 and go to 5. You don't even really have to watch these in order. I realize I could have skipped Part 2 entirely and not miss much going to Part 3.

[Peng]

If you skip 4, to get a taste of how obsessed it is to go along with 3D craze (coming out in the same year as Avatar), this is the title sequence:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOLDUQCESmE

[megladon8]

The Suspiria remake is something special, I tells ya.

I hope it gains exposure over time. It's kinda brilliant.

[Grouchy]

The Suspiria remake is something special, I tells ya.

I hope it gains exposure over time. It's kinda brilliant.
I can't see what so many people found in it. It was pretentious and boring for me aside from the bone-crushing scene which was great. I kinda loved Argento's comments on it... "it lacks music".

[MadMan]

I thought the first Final Destination was ok. The second one is a lot of gory fun. I haven't seen the others.

[transmogrifier]

3 > 2 > 5 > 1 >= 4.

According to my Excel sheet:

Final Destination:
2 > 5 > 3 > 1

Apparently I haven't seen 4? Didn't realize that.

[Dukefrukem]

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Talk about a movie made for me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnGAgAgorC4

[Ezee E]

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Talk about a movie made for me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnGAgAgorC4

After Westworld ends, I'll probably go back to Netflix, and this will be the first thing I watch.

[Pop Trash]

Cross posted review from the celebrity death thread in honor of Stuart Gordon:

Stuck is so underrated. I just rewatched it and it's like Parasite before Parasite. The way the working class will fuck over the underclass (a newly homeless guy in this case) just to maintain a semi functional life. The way Mena Suvari's character (literally wiping up shit as an elderly caretaker) interacts with her boss to get a menial raise or promotion or the way her boss (a slight tiny notch above in the class chain) condescends towards her. It's really brutal. The way Stephen Rea goes from being able to pretend to himself that he is a "temporarily inconvenienced" guy hanging out at the public park, to being a full on homeless guy pushing a shopping cart down the street. The series of events leading up to the crash and the guy at the unemployment office is just as brutal as the bloody business of being lodged in a windshield. Plus I love the multiple meanings of the title Stuck, just like the multiple meanings of the title Parasite. I wonder if Bong Joon Ho has seen it? He would love it.

[MadMan]

I need to see that one, especially since Gordon passed recently.

Starting last night I did my own little John Carpenter marathon:

Escape From New York
The Fog
Vampires
In The Mouth of Madness

Only Vampires was a new viewing, and it was seen on Crackle. The rest are still on Shudder. Vampires was a fairly solid neo-western that has James Woods being himself as usual.

[megladon8]

I kinda love Vampires.

Some super neat concepts. And Thomas Ian Griffith was suitably intimidating.

Great gore, too.

[Grouchy]

Yeah, I'm a huge fan as well.

[MadMan]

I kinda love Vampires.

Some super neat concepts. And Thomas Ian Griffith was suitably intimidating.

Great gore, too.

Those western sky shots reminded me of the shots of the ocean front in The Fog. And Griffith was a good vampire.

[Morris Schæffer]

https://youtu.be/xhNwhL58c9E

[Dukefrukem]

oh they made a sequel??

[Peng]

Night of the Creeps (1986) - Dekker is obviously a film buff, marrying a bit of 50s sci-fi to the 80s slasher genre, and it also has more than a few amusing self-aware bits peppering throughout. But the surface story is weirdly... sedately "nice" to the point of blandness, compared to other entries in the genre during the time. Some slick direction though, with a fun finale. 6/10

Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954) - Story is still too thin for its runtime, even at 79 minutes, leading to a lot of repetitive sequences of the creature appearing and escaping around the boat. The three human leads have enough presence to hold interest though, and the main attraction delivers. The atmospheric, at times almost lyrical underwater sequences really support the majestic aura around the creature, its rubber suit feeling so tactile that it transcends all the advance in technology and remains effective decades later. 7/10

[megladon8]

Night of the Creeps - 9/10

Creature From the Black Lagoon - 10/10

Fixed your ratings for you.

[Grouchy]

I share Peng's feelings of being somewhat underwhelmed by Night of the Creeps. It's not bad but, for an '80s cult classic, I expected it to be gorier and more out there. I think I prefer Monster Squad from Dekker just because of the incredible FX by Stan Winston.

Creature from the Black Lagoon, however, is a beautiful work of art. Best Universal next to Bride of Frankenstein and The Invisible Man.

[Peng]

Loved those two. I still haven't seen much Universal but my top 5 would be...

1. Frankenstein
2. The Incredible Shrinking Man
3. The Invisible Man
4. The Bride of Frankenstein
5. The Old Dark House

[megladon8]

I share Peng's feelings of being somewhat underwhelmed by Night of the Creeps. It's not bad but, for an '80s cult classic, I expected it to be gorier and more out there. I think I prefer Monster Squad from Dekker just because of the incredible FX by Stan Winston.


That's okay, we're all entitled to our own opinions.

Even when they're WRONG.

[MadMan]

I love Night of the Creeps, and Monster Squad. Both are fun.

[MadMan]

ROTLD 3-A zombie Romeo and Juliet that sort of worked despite some really low budget FX. Not a bad flick, just not better than the first one.

Wendigo-the creature looked freaky and the monster elements are good. The human aspects were weak, though. I still liked it.

[Irish]

Has anyone seen Oz Perkin's lastest "Gretel & Hansel"?

Saw the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZblQLhKcZQ) and it looked interesting.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm going to watch it this weekend with the wife.

[Peng]

https://media.giphy.com/media/dmt6Q37sRJBYY/giphy.gif

The Fury (1978) - At times it comes close to the silliness that slightly derails De Palma's previous Sisters and Obsession for me, but being based on a book seems to provide some general solid outline that grounds this more than those two. Having the screenwriter being the book's author seemingly leads to actual lived-in humor as well (a cop fretting over his hijacked car's condition; bored surveillance guys bantering while watching over the institute). And it proves that the writing doesn't need to be too over the top for De Palma to provide some of his usually delirious, stylized set-pieces, in which my two favorites are the car chase and (especially) the institute escape. Surprised the ending hasn't become as iconic as a similar scene from one particular Cronenberg film too. 7/10

[MadMan]

I loved The Fury. Sure it is goofy at times but that is part of its charm. Also I prefer it over Scanners.

[Grouchy]

ROTLD 3-A zombie Romeo and Juliet that sort of worked despite some really low budget FX. Not a bad flick, just not better than the first one.
Oooooh I adore that one. I saw it during a period of my life where getting high and watching Horror movies with a group of friends was a weekly activity.


Has anyone seen Oz Perkin's lastest "Gretel & Hansel"?
I liked it. Check out the thread in the 2020 forum. Others were not so positive.

[MadMan]

Oooooh I adore that one. I saw it during a period of my life where getting high and watching Horror movies with a group of friends was a weekly activity. That sounds awesome. I don't have any in person friends who love horror movies as much as I do.

[Irish]

https://i.imgur.com/hQ2Yn5r.jpg?1

Not sure what this is but I kinda wanna see it based on that photo.

https://www.filmmovement.com/sword-of-god

[Dukefrukem]

Added to queue

[Ivan Drago]

What's the forum's consensus on Italian giallo? I ask because of the small handful of giallos I've seen, I can never get a feel for the intent behind them. In the case of Deep Red, it starts really well with a brilliant opening shot and a well-edited murder scene. However, Goblin's score is awesome, granted, but it doesn't feel suspense to me. There are aesthetic choices that are creative, grand and striking but what's the aesthetic intent? Why should I care about these detectives if they don't have an arc? Am I overthinking this or is there something about the genre that's right in front of me but ends up flying over my head?

[MadMan]

I love giallos but some are far more superior to others.

[Morris Schæffer]

Not seen many giallos. Suspiria is a memorable movie, but even that has a sort of ramshackle veneer, like something the Italians were churning out, doing it as best as they could with possibly limited means. They did the same with the police genre in the 70's. Memorable movies, hell I recently bought two of them, but none are fit to lick the boots of the french connection. Early Jackie Chan were the same. Take away his stuntwork and what remains is pretty shabby.

[Grouchy]

What's the forum's consensus on Italian giallo? I ask because of the small handful of giallos I've seen, I can never get a feel for the intent behind them. In the case of Deep Red, it starts really well with a brilliant opening shot and a well-edited murder scene. However, Goblin's score is awesome, granted, but it doesn't feel suspense to me. There are aesthetic choices that are creative, grand and striking but what's the aesthetic intent? Why should I care about these detectives if they don't have an arc? Am I overthinking this or is there something about the genre that's right in front of me but ends up flying over my head?
Well, they are mood over plot to be sure, but I think Deep Red is good enough that it works even outside of its genre.

[Skitch]

There are a handful that are masterful (Deep Red would be on that list) and fucking truckload that are terrible.

[Grouchy]

I recommend you see The Girl Who Knew Too Much.

[MadMan]

I recommend you see The Girl Who Knew Too Much.

That is a good one. LetÃ*cia Román and John Saxon have solid chemistry in that flick.

[Irish]

A few more recs, please? I've only seen a handful of Argento...

[BuffaloWilder]

I posted this question on Facebook, but it's been niggling at me, so I'll ask it here too: what are everyone's thoughts on Victor Salva?

[Dukefrukem]

I posted this question on Facebook, but it's been niggling at me, so I'll ask it here too: what are everyone's thoughts on Victor Salva?

We have a thread for that.

http://matchcut.artboiled.com/showthread.php?2922-Jeepers-Creepers-3&p=577801&viewfull=1#post577801

[Dukefrukem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUdV7Xf9sT4&feature=emb_title

[megladon8]

A few more recs, please? I've only seen a handful of Argento...

Some of the best that aren't by Argento...

Blood and Black Lace
What Have You Done to Solange?
The Black Belly of the Tarantula
Short Night of Glass Dolls
The Case of the Blood Iris
Torso

[Grouchy]

https://scontent.faep9-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96516330_2299698253399953_1261 610956316737536_o.jpg?_nc_cat= 111&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=o1BuVk4YJgwAX-ALmTW&_nc_ht=scontent.faep9-2.fna&oh=801a0fe0277e0670b9e1964d142 c855a&oe=5EDD5E9C

[MadMan]

Some of the best that aren't by Argento...

Blood and Black Lace
What Have You Done to Solange?
The Black Belly of the Tarantula
Short Night of Glass Dolls
The Case of the Blood Iris
Torso

I'll add All The Colors Of The Dark to that list.

[MadMan]

Fulci is more my personal favorite out of the main trio of famous Italian horror directors since I love gore and zombies these days. Bava and Argento are pretty awesome-I think it was Buffosaurus or Raiders who got me into Bava. Or someone else from the Axis.

[Dukefrukem]

Coming to Shudder


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gq8YCRwSiE&feature=emb_title

[Dukefrukem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc7yp7fZWRY&feature=emb_title

[megladon8]

One Cut of the Dead is freaking wonderful stuff and everyone should see it.

[Dukefrukem]

Nevermind I figured it out.

UNLOCKED!

[Skitch]

Nevermind I figured it out.

UNLOCKED!

Thanks

[Ezee E]

This horror thread seems to be working fine.

[Ezee E]

Disregard.

[megladon8]

Watched the original Pet Sematary for the first time last night.

It's pretty awful.

Sad that Gwynne is a supporting character, but carries the whole movie on his back.

Also sad that a horror film about things coming back from the dead gets its only decent scare from a flashback to a sick girl.

[Skitch]

I hate that movie. It just pisses me off.

[Irish]

Oh man you guys bum me out.

I have a huge soft spot for that movie because of Fred Gwynne.

I remember the trailer on TV so fucking clearly. Somebody says to him, "Anyone ever bury a person out there?" and Gwynne responds, "No! But who ever would?"

There was something so over the top and perfect about his delivery that as a kid I'd occasionally and for no reason say that line out loud doing my best impression of him.

It's entirely possible I still do this as an adult, but I'd probably never admit it.

[megladon8]

Oh man you guys bum me out.

I have a huge soft spot for that movie because of Fred Gwynne.

I remember the trailer on TV so fucking clearly. Somebody says to him, "Anyone ever bury a person out there?" and Gwynne responds, "No! But who ever would?"

There was something so over the top and perfect about his delivery that as a kid I'd occasionally and for no reason say that line out loud doing my best impression of him.

It's entirely possible I still do this as an adult, but I'd probably never admit it.

Gwynne does carry the movie, though, so I can see why you'd remember that fondly.

There's one part where Gwynne invites the dad to have a beer with him on his porch.

I told Jen my review of the movie should have just been "I'd totally have a beer with Fred Gwynne on his porch."

[Skitch]

Fred is great. I hate the whole idea of the movie. And as a parent now, with boys that age, and surrounded by roads on all four sides of my house, I cannot deal with that movie anymore.

[Irish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_JSMIsjyxk

^ 3 minutes of pure, uncut Gwynne

eta: includes beer on the porch!

[DFA1979]

Oh man you guys bum me out.

I have a huge soft spot for that movie because of Fred Gwynne.

I remember the trailer on TV so fucking clearly. Somebody says to him, "Anyone ever bury a person out there?" and Gwynne responds, "No! But who ever would?"

There was something so over the top and perfect about his delivery that as a kid I'd occasionally and for no reason say that line out loud doing my best impression of him.

It's entirely possible I still do this as an adult, but I'd probably never admit it.That part is fantastic. And yes Gwynne is great in Pet Sematary. I love the book although both it and the movies overuse the dead invalid sister for scares way too much.

[Philip J. Fry]

1281354961025105923
Not exactly film, but relevant.

[Ivan Drago]

1281354961025105923
Not exactly film, but relevant.

Well, fuck. Do I have to get Quibi?

[Yxklyx]

Saw Dawn of the Dead from 2004 and man that's a great movie!

[DFA1979]

Saw Dawn of the Dead from 2004 and man that's a great movie!

Yes it is. That's how you do a remake.

[megladon8]

Overlord was pretty darn good.

Man, that opening is intense.

[Irish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAfxR6cQhWw

https://www.shudder.com/movies/watch/the-pool/4548278292a3f70e

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9128686/

Paging Duke, Scar, Skitch & possibly Meg: Thai horror. 2 people. 1 empty pool. 1 beast. (and he's not CGI.)

[DFA1979]

Overlord was pretty darn good.

Man, that opening is intense.

So glad I saw it in theaters. One hell of a thrill ride.

[Dukefrukem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAfxR6cQhWw

https://www.shudder.com/movies/watch/the-pool/4548278292a3f70e

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9128686/

Paging Duke, Scar, Skitch & possibly Meg: Thai horror. 2 people. 1 empty pool. 1 beast. (and he's not CGI.)

THIS. LOOKS. AWESOME.

[megladon8]

That looks pretty freaking cool.

[Scar]

I don’t think I’ve watched a Thai horror since Shutter.

Firing up the Pool right now.

[Scar]

CG’s a touch sketchy out the gate.

[Scar]

.....Goddamnit, Irish.

[Peng]

I read up the Pool plot thread made by a disgruntled viewer in its first week; that thread was great fun.

For Thai horrors, I recommend the anthologies 4bia (2008) and Phobia 2 (2009) (in which the two directors of Shutter participated both times!).

[Scar]

I’ll have to look this two up. Thanks!

[Scar]

Anyone else going to join in the Pool fun?

[DFA1979]

Never heard of it. Although I do plan to start viewing horror movies at the end of the month.

[megladon8]

The Meg is so bland it's pretty much a movie that exists.

This cost 130 million? WHERE?!?

It looks like a damn TV movie.

[Skitch]

The Meg is so bland it's pretty much a movie that exists.

This cost 130 million? WHERE?!?

It looks like a damn TV movie.

It's a damn sight better than the shit stain that is 47 Meters down

[Scar]

It's a damn sight better than the shit stain that is 47 Meters down

The Meg was just kind of... there. 47 Meters Down was infuriating.

[megladon8]

Damn, now I'm scared to watch 47 Meters (which I also blind-bought).

You know what movie is surprisingly great? The Shallows.

[Skitch]

I enjoyed The Shallows. I knew every thing that was gonna happen in 47 Meters Down in 30 minutes and was pissed off when I was right

[megladon8]

At least Mandy Moore is hot.

[Scar]

The Shallows is one of the few movies where the ending irritated me that I’ll watch repeatedly.

[megladon8]

The Shallows is one of the few movies where the ending irritated me that I’ll watch repeatedly.

Does it have anything to do with Blake Lively's incredible...um...performance?

[Grouchy]

I thought Crawl was actually really good.

Enviado desde mi SM-G9650 mediante Tapatalk

[DFA1979]

I liked The Meg. The Shallows was awesome. I saw both in theaters.

[Scar]

I thought Crawl was actually really good.

Enviado desde mi SM-G9650 mediante Tapatalk

I really enjoyed Crawl. So much better than I expected.

[megladon8]

Yeah, Crawl was great.

[megladon8]

Watching Nightmare on Elm Street.

John Saxon was legendary.

[transmogrifier]

The Meg is atrociously bad.

[DFA1979]

Watching Nightmare on Elm Street.

John Saxon was legendary.

I liked him better in Dream Warriors and New Nightmare but yes he was a legend.

[Skitch]

The Meg is atrociously bad.

I thought the trailer looked dumb as hell and was surprised (actually shocked) when I enjoyed the movie. Oh its trash for sure, but at least its aware its trash and embraces it. I can enjoy that much more than trash that thinks it's actually good.

[Morris Schæffer]

John Saxon acted with Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon.

John Saxon = Legend
Bruce Lee = ?????

:)

[megladon8]

Last night I watched the Canadian horror flick Pyewacket.

It got a lot of good press and generally decent reviews.

It's got something there. It's a fairly slow burn, which I always appreciate in horror. Especially when the payoff is as devastating and creepy as it is here.

The biggest problem was the dialogue, particularly between mother and daughter. I like Laurie Holden, but she felt a bit cartoonishly over the top here. The verbal fights between her and the daughter (the film's main character) don't ring true, as the words being spoken feel quite stilted as well as the performances being too hammy for the weight of the material.

There's lots of good stuff here, though. Lingering shots of autumn woods at dusk are inherently eerie. The back and forth of whether or not something supernatural is actually occurring was handled well. And the main young actress is quite good, aside from the aforementioned domestic arguments, which I attribute more to the shoddy writing than her acting.

It's a movie about angsty teenagers and the often irrational anger they harbour. If you are someone who has always found angsty goth teens to be insufferable, you may look at the movie in the same light and see nothing to connect with.

If you were a depressed "outsider" as a teen, you should check it out.

Nothing earth shattering, but worth seeing. Especially for that creepy ass ending.

[Scar]

VFW is gloriously violent and gory. I will definitely be subjecting Bac0n and the artist formerly known as Spun to this.

I legit cackled several times.

[megladon8]

VFW is gloriously violent and gory. I will definitely be subjecting Bac0n and the artist formerly known as Spun to this.

I legit cackled several times.

I've been on the fence about buying this one.

You just pushed me to buy!

[Scar]

I've been on the fence about buying this one.

You just pushed me to buy!

Ten bucks for 4K at Walmart. If it’s cheaper on bluray, buy that. It does not benefit from 4K.

[megladon8]

Ten bucks for 4K at Walmart. If it’s cheaper on bluray, buy that. It does not benefit from 4K.

$40 on Amazon.ca! (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B082PQKBK2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_GrDjFbNZX ZY3N)

I'll get Jen to check Walmart next week.

[megladon8]

Nevermind had to run in to town to pick some things up and saw it at Walmart for $15, snagged it.

[megladon8]

Well holy shit...

[DFA1979]

VFW is gloriously violent and gory. I will definitely be subjecting Bac0n and the artist formerly known as Spun to this.

I legit cackled several times.

I miss Spun.

[megladon8]

ANYONE ELSE WANNA COME INTO MY FUCKIN' BAR?!?!?!

[megladon8]

"What gives her the right to shave her pussy hairs?"

"It's her pussy..."

[Scar]

That second quote works better in context.

[megladon8]

My favorite part was when that guy died violently and there was lots of gore.

[megladon8]

VFW is what The Expendables should have been.

[megladon8]

Wow, The Relic was...not good.

[Dukefrukem]

Wow, The Relic was...not good.

The Relic or Relic?

[megladon8]

The Relic. Tom Sizemore and Penelope Ann Miller.

[Skitch]

The Relic. Tom Sizemore and Penelope Ann Miller.

That movie rocks...but it is a creature feature and those seem to go either way for people.

[megladon8]

That movie rocks...but it is a creature feature and those seem to go either way for people.

I couldn't see anything. One of the worst lit movies I've ever seen that had a theatrical release.

And the dialogue was just horrible. SO MUCH science babble.

I'm a huge creature feature fan, they're my faves. This just wasn't good.

[Skitch]

Product of its time.

[megladon8]

You're a ...time...product...

[Skitch]

You're a ...time...product...

YOUR MOM IS A TIME PRODUCT

[megladon8]

YOUR MOM IS A TIME PRODUCT

My mom recently died in a tragic time product accident.

Thanks a lot for messing up my healing process, Skitch

[Idioteque Stalker]

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by time products.

[Skitch]

My mom recently died in a tragic time product accident.

Thanks a lot for messing up my healing process, Skitch

...fuck damnit...

[megladon8]

Time products sounds like one of those adult swim infomercials.

[Yxklyx]

That movie rocks...but it is a creature feature and those seem to go either way for people.

I liked that one. It looks like a lot of it was filmed on location inside the Field Museum here in Chicago.

[Scar]

I couldn't see anything. One of the worst lit movies I've ever seen that had a theatrical release.

And the dialogue was just horrible. SO MUCH science babble.

I'm a huge creature feature fan, they're my faves. This just wasn't good.

*Biochemist glare*

You want an example of science ‘babble’, watch Cradle 2 The Grave.

[Skitch]

*Biochemist glare*

You want an example of science ‘babble’, watch Cradle 2 The Grave.

X gonna give it to ya

[Scar]

X gonna give it to ya

....and that’ll be stuck in my head for hours....

[Skitch]

....and that’ll be stuck in my head for hours....

*deep bow*

[megladon8]

*Biochemist glare*

You want an example of science ‘babble’, watch Cradle 2 The Grave.

Seriously?

That's...not the movie I would have expected to be loaded with science babble.

[Dukefrukem]

I liked that one. It looks like a lot of it was filmed on location inside the Field Museum here in Chicago.

Me too. Love it. It has a crappy Hollywood ending but ignore that.

Also hated how they ignored the Pendergast character.

Also, how could anyone forget that I loved it? (http://matchcut.artboiled.com/showthread.php?6311-The-Top-20-MERICAN-90s-Horror-Movies/page2&p=554173&viewfull=1#post554173)

[Scar]

Seriously?

That's...not the movie I would have expected to be loaded with science babble.

Babble as in totally bullshit science.

[DFA1979]

I like The Relic. Also I have to spread rep around before I can hand it out again covers the entire last part of page 328.

[Morris Schæffer]

There's a sequel book called 'Reliquary'? Duke is that a good read?

[Dukefrukem]

There's a sequel book called 'Reliquary'? Duke is that a good read?

There is and I've read it. It starts off good, but does a 180 from the first book. I guess it depends on when/if you are expecting more of the same (which 14 year old me was when I read it, and probably why it has a sour taste in my memory) or looking for an expanded view of the mythology.

The characters alone are worth revising for it.

[megladon8]

30 Days of Night was better than I remembered. It's still nothing special, but entertaining enough and some awesome gore.

Danny Huston is awful as always.

Biggest fault in the movie is that it never feels cold, it's all just so artificial. I don't know if they were riding on the popularity of Sin City and 300 or God knows what, but making a movie set practically in the North Pole and filming it in New Zealand was mega dumb and affected the believability of everything substantially.

[Dukefrukem]

Agree Meg. I like the the dread in that movie a lot. Plus I love snow movies.

The ending is kinda bad, and the representative of time when they are in the attic is dumb, but i'ts fun to watch.

[megladon8]

Agree Meg. I like the the dread in that movie a lot. Plus I love snow movies.

The ending is kinda bad, and the representative of time when they are in the attic is dumb, but i'ts fun to watch.

Yes thats true!! It felt like it was still the first night, and the text pops up on the screen "Day 18".

Wait, what?? When did all this time pass??

There were also just so, so many questions left unanswered. How the hell did the vampires get there? Did they walk? And even more puzzling, how did Ben Foster's character get there?

Why are all the vampires dressed like nu metal singers?

[Dukefrukem]

How the hell did the vampires get there? Did they walk? And even more puzzling, how did Ben Foster's character get there?


That was established in the opening shot. They came off the ship.

[Morris Schæffer]

Haha k fan also hated Danny huston.

[Skitch]

Snow movies do indeed rule.

[megladon8]

That was established in the opening shot. They came off the ship.

Ahhhhh okay. Me dumb.

[Morris Schæffer]

There is and I've read it. It starts off good, but does a 180 from the first book. I guess it depends on when/if you are expecting more of the same (which 14 year old me was when I read it, and probably why it has a sour taste in my memory) or looking for an expanded view of the mythology.

The characters alone are worth revising for it.

Hey I read 'Crooked River', their latest Prendergast novel. In a way, it's my sort of read, a page-turner, nothing too esoteric or taxing, but even as those go, this one has some pretty severe dumbness at least one time, and the investigation is kind of facile with clues dug up without major effort. Above average.

[DFA1979]

Haha k fan also hated Danny huston.

Yes. Yes he did.

Until I get wifi back Horrorfest is suspended. I may go find some movies at Barnes & Noble to watch in the meantime.

[Morris Schæffer]

Shiiit!! Bone Tomahawk is even better than I expected. Love it.

[megladon8]

Shiiit!! Bone Tomahawk is even better than I expected. Love it.

Did the ending make you queasy?

[Morris Schæffer]

Did the ending make you queasy?

I felt dread allright and when the deputy got finished Mortal Kombat styleit was as revoltingly violent as anything I've seen in quite some time. Although queasiness levels were not excessive either since it wasn't in your face. I felt on edge because I kept thinking 'Oh god what the fuck else are they gonna do?!'

One other thing, this movie is funnier than a lot of comedies. Matthew Fox and Richard Jenkins killed it.

[Morris Schæffer]

Oh and props for having James Tolkan, the bald principal from Back to the Future and B star Michael Paré.

[DFA1979]

Shiiit!! Bone Tomahawk is even better than I expected. Love it.

Pretty good western horror flick.

Also wifi is back so Horrorfest 2020 is full speed ahead again.

[megladon8]

Wes Craven's Deadly Friend is awful.

Reading into it, he claimed studio meddling ruined the movie. But what he was going for was pretty odd and awful to start with. It seems the studio meddling (adding gore scenes) were the best parts of the movie.

[megladon8]

Dracula 2000 is a mediocre nu metal infused late 90s/early 2000s flick that is fun to watch because HOT DAMN that take on Dracula's origin is 13/10 brilliant.

Like, seriously, freaking brilliant ideas there and should be used again.

[Skitch]

Dracula 2000 is a mediocre nu metal infused lare 90s/early 2000s flick that is fun to watch because HOT DAMN that take on Dracula's origin is 13/10 brilliant.

Like, seriously, freaking brilliant ideas there and should be used again.

EXACTLY my thoughts. Have you ever read the Book of Nod?

Its a creepy little thing written kinda bible-ish with chapter and verse. But it puts forth the concept that the first vampire was Cain. After slaying his brother Abel was banished to the land of Nod with his followers who commenced to feed on the blood of others to spite god. Sweet idea.

[megladon8]

I have not, no. I will check it out!

[Skitch]

I have not, no. I will check it out!

Like Dracula 2000, I'm not saying its good, just that their origin of vampires is a sick idea. ;)

[Yxklyx]

Do people here subscribe to Shudder?

[Irish]

Off and on.

Sam Zimmerman, their director of programming, occasionally throws out good recs on his twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/samdzimmerman

[Scar]

Are they bringing Creepshow back? Then I might bop back on again.

[Irish]

Are they bringing Creepshow back? Then I might bop back on again.

"Creepshow" has been back and it's actually pretty good. Some hits and some misses. But they did it right: 30 minute episodes, always something with a good hook/ premise. Feels very in line with the movies and "Tales from the Crypt" style storytelling.

ETA: Wait, did you mean Season 2? Did we talk about this before?

[Ivan Drago]

Do people here subscribe to Shudder?

I do! I personally enjoy it.

[Scar]

"Creepshow" has been back and it's actually pretty good. Some hits and some misses. But they did it right: 30 minute episodes, always something with a good hook/ premise. Feels very in line with the movies and "Tales from the Crypt" style storytelling.

ETA: Wait, did you mean Season 2? Did we talk about this before?

Season 2. Not sure if we had talked about it or not. But I agree, certainly some good ones and some meh ones from Season 1. I remember thoroughly enjoying the Dollhouse.

[Yxklyx]

I do! I personally enjoy it.

Have a free trial via Prime. Watched Color out of Space. Man, this was an excellent adaptation! The writer/director had a great feel for the original story.

[Yxklyx]

Have a free trial via Prime. Watched Color out of Space. Man, this was an excellent adaptation! The writer/director had a great feel for the original story.

Any good recommendations on Shudder? I'm not seeing much that I haven't seen already and want to rewatch. Watched Deep Red (not Director's cut) and Tenebre on Shudder.

[DFA1979]

Do people here subscribe to Shudder?

Yes. I love it. The last thing I watched on there was Squirm since it's leaving both Shudder and Tubi. Review to come later on my blog.

[Yxklyx]

Mandy could have been a pretty good film but it's too uneven.

[transmogrifier]

Mandy is generic as hell. I'm a little sick of the cult of Nicholas Cage as well; his "fearlessness" is just being a weirdo in shitty B-movies and getting paid for it. Most of his performances are actually complete shit.

[DFA1979]

I thought it was fantastic. I'll admit it did need more Cheddar Goblin to mix in with the cosmic darkness.

[Peng]

Kicking off October with my first rewatches of both Gremlins films after it's been almost two decades.

Gremlins (1984) - Man, I'd forgotten how insanely cute Gizmo is, really one of the most impressive and expressive animatronic creations. And is the theater stuff here part of the inspiration for the climatic one in Inglourious Basterds? 8/10

Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990) - "BUY! BUY! BUY!" Obviously richer both conceptually and in its subtext than the original, but the surface story suffers as a result. I feel Dante struggles a bit modulating this one's anarchy, having some sequences (especially towards the end) getting circuitous and repetitive in case we still miss its (mostly inspired) capitalism-bashing glee. Still very fun, of course, but I prefer Dante's surer hand in inserting a mean streak underneath holiday cheer from the first one. Come to think of it, this kind of parallels me preferring the original Evil Dead's lean, mean intensity slightly over its sequel's grander lunacy as well. 7.5/10

[Dukefrukem]

I kicked off October with: The Frightners, The Amityville Horror and the Birds

[megladon8]

I kicked off October with: The Frightners, The Amityville Horror and the Birds

Those are three awesome watches!

[DFA1979]

I watched two Godzilla flicks and The Living Dead Girl. Currently viewing Moon of the Wolf.

[Morris Schæffer]

Is that a thing? October is Halloween month? Maybe I'm gonna Handpick 3 scary movies myself.

[DFA1979]

Well I usually watch horror movies throughout the year but I do my annual Horrorfest from July 31st to November 1st.

[Yxklyx]

Is that a thing? October is Halloween month? Maybe I'm gonna Handpick 3 scary movies myself.

I used to dedicated October to horror. My lineup from 2005:

10/01/05 The Cat and the Canary (1927, Paul Leni) 5

10/01/05 The Wolf Man (1941, George Waggner) 7

10/01/05 Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943, Roy William Neill) 4

10/01/05 Fiend Without a Face (1958, Arthur Crabtree) 6

10/02/05 Onibaba (1964, Kaneto Shindô) 8

10/02/05 The Masque of the Red Death (1964, Roger Corman) 7

10/02/05 The Premature Burial (1962, Roger Corman) 5

10/03/05 Them! (1954, Gordon Douglas) 7

10/04/05 Son of Frankenstein (1939, Rowland V. Lee) 7

10/04/05 The Ghost of Frankenstein (1942, Erle C. Kenton) 5

10/05/05 Cat People (1942, Jacques Tourneur) 8

10/06/05 The Curse of the Cat People (1944, Robert Wise & Gunther von Fritsch) 6

10/06/05 The Ghost Ship (1943, Mark Robson) 7

10/07/05 The Leopard Man (1943, Jacques Tourneur) 8

10/07/05 The Seventh Victim (1943, Mark Robson) 6

10/08/05 Night of the Demon (1957, Jacques Tourneur) 8

10/09/05 Blood of the Beasts (1949, Georges Franju) [short] 8

10/09/05 Eyes Without a Face (1959, Georges Franju) 8

10/10/05 Black Sunday (1960, Mario Bava) 5

10/12/05 Kaidan (1964, Masaki Kobayashi) 7

10/14/05 X (1963, Roger Corman) 6

10/15/05 Village of the Damned (1960, Wolf Rilla) 8

10/16/05 Children of the Damned (1963, Anton Leader) 6

10/16/05 / Altered States (1980, Ken Russell) 8

10/17/05 Videodrome (1983, David Cronenberg) 8

10/18/05 Targets (1968, Peter Bogdanovich) 10

10/19/05 The Body Snatcher (1945, Robert Wise) 8

10/19/05 I Walked with a Zombie (1943, Jacques Tourneur) 7

10/20/05 / Woman in the Dunes (1964, Hiroshi Teshigahara) 7

10/21/05 The Night Stalker (TV) (1972, John Llewellyn Moxey) 6

10/22/05 The Wicker Man (1973, Robin Hardy) 6

10/23/05 The Night Strangler (TV) (1973, Dan Curtis) 7

10/24/05 / The Company of Wolves (1984, Neil Jordan) 7

10/25/05 Dead Ringers (1988, David Cronenberg) 8

10/27/05 Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986, John McNaughton) 8

10/28/05 Martin (1977, George A. Romero) 7

10/29/05 Angel Heart (1987, Alan Parker) 7

10/30/05 The Happiness of the Katakuris (2001, Takashi Miike) 4

10/31/05 Nocturna Artificialia (1979, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 9

10/31/05 The Cabinet of Jan Svankmajer (1984, Keith Griffiths/Stephen Quay/Timothy Quay) [short] 7

10/31/05 The Unnameable Little Broom (1985, Keith Griffiths/Stephen Quay/Timothy Quay) [short] 8

10/31/05 Street of Crocodiles (1986, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 8

10/31/05 Rehearsals for Extinct Anatomies (1988, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 7

10/31/05 Stille Nacht I (1988, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 7

10/31/05 The Comb (1990, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 8

10/31/05 De Artificiali Perspectiva (1991, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 8

10/31/05 Are We Still Married? (1992, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 7

10/31/05 Tales From the Vienna Woods (1992, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 8

10/31/05 Can't Go Wrong Without You (1993, Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay) [short] 7

[Dukefrukem]

This is why I like Letterboxd. It keeps track of all this stuff so you can go back and take a peek. I used to keep excel spreadsheets.

[Morris Schæffer]

Xyklyx you watched 11 movies on 10/31/05?!

[Yxklyx]

Xyklyx you watched 11 movies on 10/31/05?!

All short films. It's hard to find all these movies nowadays. Most of these were from Netflix DVD but their selection is much smaller now. You might find many on Streaming but you'll probably have to subscribe to half a dozen streaming services.