Match Cut's Movies to See Before You Die (or Get a Girlfriend) [Archive]

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 09:09 AM

Well, I compiled all the Top 100 lists, and after hours of formatting titles, chasing indefinite and definite articles, screwing up the averages, and waiting for MadMan to wrestle with his philosophical list-making demons, I have a masterlist of films recommended by us. That's right, you and me. And some other guys too.

The list is ranked according to number of list mentions (quick stat at the time of first posting: 28 lists submitted, 25 of them complete. Feel free to join the fun by posting in the original thread, and I will update at regular intervals dicatated by work, caffeine intake, love of humanity and pressing issues best confronted with rigorous procrastination).

I decided to start with a 2 list mention threshold, as I think to truly be a group masterlist AFI-style, there needs to be at least one other person in our group who agrees with you. I didn't mention this earlier because there is nothing I dislike more in consensus voting than people purposefully leaving off films that are sure to be included so they can "reward" other movies. Screw that - I want an honest picture of the films we like a lot, rather than slather of little pictures we want to boost. We have plenty of threads where we can recommend films; this one is for us to discover a little more about we value. In fact, I would have preferred to have received the lists by PM, so there could be no "tactical" voting, but I didn't have the idea to compile until it was too late. Nevermind; I hope this will suffice.

But before I start, as a curtain-raiser, I propose to present some comparisons between posters. Perhaps you'll finally discover who your movie soulmate is.

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 09:19 AM

In compiling the lists, I accumulated data on how many overlaps individual posters had with other lists - if a movie from your list was found on five other lists, you got five points, for example (note: I left out posters who didn't provide all 100 films, so I didn't have to worry about averaging and the like. I know, I'm lazy, but I've learnt to live with that.) I then got a ranking of the 25 list compilers from highest scorer (most overlaps) to the lowest scorers (fewest overlaps).

First up, the Top 5...

THE VOICES OF MATCH CUT

1. jamaul (453 points, average 19.7 films shared with other lists)
2. Weeping Guitar (394/17.1)
3. Watashi (381/16.6)
4. Yxklyx (364/15.8)
5. megladon8 (354/15.4)

Jamaul a clear winner. He now becomes the spokesperson for what is or is not accepted at Match Cut. The upshot is that the rest of us are now saved from watching so many movies. This will free up time for other activities, like stalking celebrities, or porn.

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 09:31 AM

THE MATCH CUT MAVERICKS

25. Daniel Davis (141/6.1)
24. Antoine (192/8.3)
23. The Mike (214/9.3)
22. Spinal (244/10.6)
21. Boner M (249/10.8)

Again, another clear winner, with Daniel Davis walking away with the title. But he's in good company. These guys march to their own beat. Go their own way. Stray off the beaten path. Make me check IMDB to make sure they aren't inventing movies.

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 09:45 AM

The full list:

1. jamaul
2. Weeping Guitar
3. Watashi
4. Xyklyx
5. megladon8
6. Ezee E (350)
7. Kurosawa Fan (341)
8. Dead & Messed Up (325)
9. ThePlashyBubbler (312)
10. Fezzik (301)
11. soitgoes... (297)
12. dreamdead (289)
13. fasozupow (283)
14. EyesWideOpen (271)
15. Raiders (262)
15. Sycophant (262)
17. Russ (260)
18. transmogrifier (257)
19. eternity (251)
19. Kurious Jorge v3.1 (251)
21. Boner M
22. Spinal
23. The Mike
24. Antoine
25. Daniel Davis

Average overlap: 291.9 (12.7 per list)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 09:57 AM

Now for the fun part - individual comparisons. Please note that there were numerous occasions for mistakes, so don't sue in case your match doesn't work out) Here we go, one by one:

ANTOINE

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Spinal (18)
2. jamaul (13)
2. soitgoes... (13)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (0)
2. transmogrifier (1)
3. EyesWideOpen (3)

(Note: one of only TWO instances of zero overlap between lists)

BONER M

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (22)
2. ThePlashyBubbler (21)
2. dreamdead (19)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. The Mike (2)
2. eternity (4)
3. Daniel Davis, Weeping Guitar, Fezzik (5)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:03 AM

DANIEL DAVIS

Cinematic Soulmates

1. megladon8 (16)
2. Dead & Messed Up (12)
3. Sycophant (10)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Antoine (0)
2. Raiders (0)
3. Kurious Jorge v3.1 (3)

DEAD & MESSED UP

Cinematic Soulmates

1. megladon8 (28)
2. Ezee E (24)
3. Fezzik (24)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. dreamdead (4)
2. Kurious Jorge v3.1 (5)
3. Sycophant (6)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:09 AM

DREAMDEAD

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Raiders (28)
2. ThePlashyBubbler (23)
3. jamaul (22)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Dead & Messed Up (4)
1. Fezzik (4)
3. Daniel Davis, Ezee E (5)

ETERNITY

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (20)
1. Weeping Guitar (20)
3. Kurosawa Fan, Xyklyx (14)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (2)
1. Boner M (4)
3. Antoine, Spinal (6)

B-side

03-10-2009, 10:10 AM

Aww. I would've liked to have been a part of the "soul mate" thing.:sad:

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:15 AM

EYESWIDEOPEN

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Sycophant (20)
2. Fezzik (19)
2. Watashi (19)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Antoine (3)
2. Kurious Jorge, Spinal, Raiders (5)

EZEE E

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (28)
2. Watashi (25)
3. Dead & Messed Up, Fezzik (24)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. dreamdead (5)
2. Kurious Jorge v3.1, Raiders (8)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:17 AM

Aww. I would've liked to have been a part of the "soul mate" thing.:sad:

I can do yours at the end, no problems at all. I left you (and PR and BD) out because it would have disrupted the overall stats, which are based on samples of 100 films.

Boner M

03-10-2009, 10:19 AM

I think if Davis ever writes an autobiography, Cancel That DVD Date! would be an apt title. That, or Nobody's Soulmate.

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:24 AM

FASOZUPOW

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (18)
2. Ezee E (17)
3. Fezzik, megladon, Watashi, Xyklyx (15)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (5)
2. Raiders, The Mike (8)

(Note: results skewed by faz' "one director only" rule :cry:)

FEZZIK

Cinematic Soulmates

1. megladon8 (27)
2. Dead & Messed Up, Ezee E, Weeping Guitar (24)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Kurious Jorge (3)
2. dreamdead (4)
3. Boner M, Raiders, Spinal (5)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:32 AM

JAMAUL

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Ezee E (28)
1. Weeping Guitar (28)
3. Xyklyx (24)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (4)
2. The Mike (8)
3. Antoine, Fezzik (13)

KURIOUS JORGE V3.1

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (22)
2. dreamdead (19)
2. Raiders (19)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (1)
2. Fezzik (3)
3. megladon8 (4)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:37 AM

KUROSAWA FAN

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Weeping Guitar (26)
2. jamaul (22)
3. Watashi (19)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Fezzik (7)
2. Daniel Davis (9)
3. Antoine, Kurious Jorge v3.1, Russ (10)

MEGLADON8

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Dead & Messed Up (28)
2. Fezzik (27)
3. jamaul (22)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Antoine (4)
1. Kurious Jorge v3.1 (4)
3. dreamdead (6)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:42 AM

RAIDERS

Cinematic Soulmates

1. dreamdead (28)
2. jamaul (22)
3. Kurious Jorge v3.1 (19)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (0)
2. EyesWideOpen, Fezzik (5)

RUSS

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (18)
2. Xyklyx (17)
3. Spinal (16)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (6)
1. transmogrifier (6)
3. Dead & Messed Up, Raiders (7)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:46 AM

SOITGOES

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (23)
1. Weeping Guitar (23)
3. dreamdead, Kurosawa Fan (17)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. transmogrifier (6)
2. Daniel Davis, fasozupow, The Mike (7)

SPINAL

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (19)
1. Xyklyx (19)
3. Antoine (18)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (2)
2. The Mike (3)
3. EyesWideOpen, Fezzik (5)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:51 AM

SYCOPHANT

Cinematic Soulmates

1. EyesWideOpen (20)
2. megladon8 (16)
3. jamaul, Weeping Guitar (15)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Antoine (5)
2. Boner M, Dead & Messed Up, Spinal, The Mike (6)

THE MIKE

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Fezzik (19)
1. megladon8 (19)
3. Kurosawa Fan (15)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Boner M (2)
2. Spinal (3)
3. Daniel Davis (4)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:57 AM

THEPLASHYBUBBLER

Cinematic Soulmates

1. dreamdead (23)
2. Boner M (21)
3. jamaul, Watashi (20)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Antoine (4)
2. Daniel Davis (6)
3. Ezee E (9)

TRANSMOGRIFIER

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Watashi (17)
2. Fezzik (16)
3. Ezee E, jamaul, The Plashy Bubbler, Xyklyx(15)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Antoine (1)
2. The Mike (5)
3. Russ, soitgoes (6)

soitgoes...

03-10-2009, 11:00 AM

TRANSMOGRIFIER

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Watashi (17)

:pritch:

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 11:04 AM

WATASHI

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Weeping Guitar (26)
2. Ezee E (25)
3. jamaul (23)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Antoine (4)
2. Daniel Davis (9)
3. The Mike (10)

WEEPING GUITAR

Cinematic Soulmates

1. jamaul (28)
2. Kurosawa Fan, Watashi, Xyklyx (26)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Boner (5)
1. Daniel Davis (5)
3. Spinal (8)

XYKLYX
Cinematic Soulmates

1. Weeping Guitar (26)
2. jamaul (24)
2. Dead & Messed Up, Watashi (21)

Cancel that DVD date!

1. Daniel Davis (4)
2. Raiders, Sycophant, ThePlashyBubbler (11)

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 11:05 AM

:pritch:

Yep. Learn something new every day.

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 11:08 AM

Coming tomorrow:

The master list of movies. Here's a teaser.

#506. The......

Winston*

03-10-2009, 11:08 AM

Out of jamaul and D_Davis, I wonder who leads the happier life.

Sycophant

03-10-2009, 03:45 PM

We are all best friends with jamaul!

jamaul

03-10-2009, 04:19 PM

Wow. For one thing, props on this thread. Major props.

Secondly, I feel like such a whore.

Ivan Drago

03-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Damn, I would've added a list had I known there'd be a tally for Cinematic Soulmates and stuff like that.

Oh well, I was saving doing a top 100 for a separate thread anyway.

D_Davis

03-10-2009, 05:25 PM

I think if Davis ever writes an autobiography, Cancel That DVD Date! would be an apt title. That, or Nobody's Soulmate.

Heh...

I always new I was out of step around here...

:)

Qrazy

03-10-2009, 05:26 PM

Heh...

I always new I was out of step around here...

:)

Go back to HongKongCut.com!

Just kidding, stay.

Derek

03-10-2009, 05:36 PM

Heh...

I always new I was out of step around here...

:)

I'll watch a DVD with you any time!

balmakboor

03-10-2009, 05:37 PM

balmakboor

03-10-2009, 05:41 PM

Whenever I feel like something completely different, I always start with D's lists.

D_Davis

03-10-2009, 05:42 PM

Go back to HongKongCut.com!

Just kidding, stay.

Funny - the only 2 forums I've ever been banned from are both Asian-film related...

I'll watch a DVD with you any time!

Yes!

D_Davis

03-10-2009, 05:45 PM

So Mulholland Dr. will probably rank pretty highly - it seems to be ranked highly in a number of lists. I wonder, will it be the most liked film at Match Cut?

That would be pretty cool.

Qrazy

03-10-2009, 05:49 PM

I'll watch a DVD with you any time!

As long as you get to pick the DVD?

Ezee E

03-10-2009, 05:52 PM

faz could be the epitome of Match Cut had he not used his "one film per director" rule.

balmakboor

03-10-2009, 06:11 PM

faz could be the epitome of Match Cut had he not used his "one film per director" rule.

Well, these are the movies I most regretted leaving off due to my rule. Not sure if they would've changed my rankings much.

Dazed and Confused
Pi
Martha
Full Metal Jacket
Eyes Wide Shut
The Last Bolshevik
Late Spring
Early Summer
Tokyo Twilight
Vertigo
Drugstore Cowboy
Paranoid Park
Salesman
Safe
The Thin Red Line
Kill Bill
Death Proof
The Long Goodbye
Touch of Evil
M. Hulot's Holiday
E.T.
Casualties of War
12 Angry Men
The Godfather
Raging Bull
GoodFellas
Coming Home
A Woman Under the Influence
A Canterbury Tale
The Red Shoes
Baran
The Bicycle Thieves
Zelig
Stray Dog
Drowning by Numbers
Heaven's Gate
A Touch of Zen

Fezzik

03-10-2009, 06:35 PM

This is going to be a glorious thread.

dreamdead

03-10-2009, 07:11 PM

DREAMDEAD

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Raiders (28)

Cancel that DVD date!

3. Daniel Davis, Ezee E (5)

Not too shocked to see that Raiders and I have fairly similar taste. I used his list back in '05/'06 to fill in blanks of cinematic history, so that's fairly unsurprising.

I am shocked to see that Ezee E and I even have that much crossover. Daniel and I at least try to meet one another in exemplary genre work, but without the greatest Scorsese connection, I'm oddly interested in scanning where else we had conjoining interests.

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 07:26 PM

I am shocked to see that Ezee E and I even have that much crossover. Daniel and I at least try to meet one another in exemplary genre work, but without the greatest Scorsese connection, I'm oddly interested in scanning where else we had conjoining interests.

Aguirre
All That Jazz
It's a Wonderful Life
Sunset Blvd.
The Passion of Joan of Arc

Ezee E

03-10-2009, 07:29 PM

Aguirre
All That Jazz
It's a Wonderful Life
Sunset Blvd.
The Passion of Joan of Arc
The Thin Red Line just missed mine as well.

I thought I had A Man Escaped on my list.

Most of the movies on your list I like a ton, but have only seen once.

Yxklyx

03-10-2009, 09:19 PM

faz could be the epitome of Match Cut had he not used his "one film per director" rule.

jamaul being #1 is curious since he was the last one to post a list. :eek:

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 09:23 PM

The Master List

http://www.treehugger.com/2008-01-22_104144-TreeHugger-office%20space.jpg

#508. The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: -
Highest ranking: -

#507. Office Space (Mike Judge, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 92.5
Highest ranking: 91 (eternity)

#506. The Host (Bong Jun-ho, 2006)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 92
Highest ranking: 86 (Sycophant)

#504. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel, 2007)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 91.5
Highest ranking: 88 (fasozupow)

#504. Donnie Darko (Richard Kelly, 2001)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 91.5
Highest ranking: 88 (eternity)

#503. The Last Picture Show (Peter Bogdanovich, 1971))
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 91.5
Highest ranking: 83 (soitgoes...)

Yxklyx

03-10-2009, 09:35 PM

Where's #503?

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 09:37 PM

Where's #503?

Two #502s that couldn't be split

jamaul

03-10-2009, 09:39 PM

jamaul being #1 is curious since he was the last one to post a list. :eek:

Shhhhhhh!!!

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:18 PM

http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/500/thumbnails/483.jpg

#502. Gremlins 2: The New Batch (Joe Dante, 1990)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 89.5
Highest ranking: 86 (Boner M)

#501. The Draughtman's Contract (Peter Greenaway, 1982)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 89
Highest ranking: 89 (dreamdead)

#500. Hoop Dreams (Steve James, 1994)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 88.5
Highest ranking: 82 (Ezee E)

#499. Lessons of Darkness (Werner Herzog, 1992)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 88
Highest ranking: 85 (Russ)

#498. The Last Laugh (F. W. Murnau, 1924)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 88
Highest ranking: 76 (Kurious Jorge)

#497. Don't Look Now (Nicholas Roeg, 1973)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 87.5
Highest ranking: 78 (transmogrifier)

#496. Infernal Affairs (Wai-keung Lau & Siu Fai Mak, 2002)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 86.5
Highest ranking: 81 (Fezzik)

#495. The Children of Paradise (Marcel Carne, 1945)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 86.5
Highest ranking: 77 (Boner M)

#494. Southern Comfort (Walter Hill, 1981)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 86
Highest ranking: 85 (transmogrifier)

#493. The Big Red One (Sam Fuller, 1980)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 85.5
Highest ranking: 78 (dreamdead)

Commentary and Notes:

* First of five films on the list for Werner Herzog, which makes him tied at 11th for most loved director at Match Cut based on number of films represented. (complete director rundown to take place at some stage, probably at the end).

* First strike against Match Cut:
- number of films by Sam Fuller on the list = 4
- number of films by Rob Reiner on the list = 4

* The Departed is also on the list. So much for the poverty of remakes :)

Watashi

03-10-2009, 10:20 PM

Awesome.

Sycophant

03-10-2009, 10:27 PM

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 10:33 PM

Hey, Infernal Affairs made it on the list even without my help!

Acutally, quick question--since it was #99 or #100 and pushed off my list-- would having had my vote, a third support that would've brought down its placement average, knocked it lower on the last?

Basically, what's the method here?

The rankings are exceptionally simple: the films are ordered by number of list mentions, with ties (of which there are many, naturally) split first by average ranking (for those lists that were listed preferentially) and failing that, by highest individual ranking.

I was going to assign points based on position, and all that, but I figured that, because so many people described the ordering of their list as somewhat changeable, I decided to treat the list first and foremost as a submission of 100 "best" films. I think it is the best system for this type of activity, despite any flaws it may have. Basically, it's a measure of the films we treasure as a group.

With Infernal Affairs, your vote would have pushed it to at least 315 (when the 3 list movies start), and it would have beaten The Departed, which got two votes as well, but a slightly better average ranking.

Sycophant

03-10-2009, 10:36 PM

Good call, trans.

transmogrifier

03-10-2009, 11:05 PM

http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060213/Gaslight.jpg

#492. A Fish Called Wanda (Charles Crichton, 1988)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 85.5
Highest ranking: 72 (transmogrifier)

#491. Jacob's Ladder (Adrian Lyne, 1990)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 84.5
Highest ranking: 81 (eternity)

#490. The Mission (Johnnie To, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 84.5
Highest ranking: 78 (Sycophant)

#489. The Brave Little Toaster (Jerry Rees, 1987)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 83.5
Highest ranking: 73 (ThePlashyBubbler)

#488. Gaslight (George Cukor, 1944)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 83
Highest ranking: 68 (The Mike)

#487. Shame (Ingmar Bergman, 1968)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 83
Highest ranking: 67 (dreamdead)

#486. Limbo (John Sayles, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 82.5
Highest ranking: 76 (transmogrifier)

#485. Something Wild (Jonathon Demme, 1986)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 82.5
Highest ranking: 75 (Raiders)

#484. Poltergeist (Tobe Hooper, 1982)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 80.5
Highest ranking: 68 (Spinal)

#483. The Producers (Mel Brooks, 1968)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 80
Highest ranking: 77 (Dead & Messed Up)

Watashi

03-10-2009, 11:09 PM

I swore Spinal listed Brave Little Toaster in his Top 100.

Sycophant

03-10-2009, 11:16 PM

I swore Spinal listed Brave Little Toaster in his Top 100.

Oh, man. I should've put it on mine. Thought I had. Whoops. It's on the list at all, though, so that's pretty awesome!

The Mike

03-10-2009, 11:17 PM

Well, it's exciting to have at least made the Top 25. :cool:

Kurosawa Fan

03-11-2009, 01:55 AM

Woot! Limbo makes the cut! Trans, you're a good man.

Mysterious Dude

03-11-2009, 02:03 AM

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 02:22 AM

Biggest surprise absentee from the list for me: The Bridge on the River Kwai

jamaul

03-11-2009, 02:28 AM

When I first posted my top 100 at RT, someone described it as "AFI's list with foreign films." Looking back, it was an accurate assessment. There were a lot of titles like Casablanca, Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Gone with the Wind and other films that I like and respect, but do not love. In retrospect, it's an embarrassing list. (On the other hand, the film with the number one spot has not changed.)

It's nice to know that I have now achieved "maverick" status.

Are you suggesting that my list is conventional? If so, dammit . . . I agree.

I've made other lists, where I tried way too hard to be hip and different. But I was citing movies I didn't really love. Casablanca, Kane and Godfather are all on my list, and I seriously love them. They are all films I've revisted throughout my adulthood and, upon subsequent viewings, have continued to grow in my esteem.

Gone With the Wind is balls though. I've always thought so. Shriveled, hairy, sweaty, smelly, urine color-toned balls.

Kurosawa Fan

03-11-2009, 02:33 AM

Biggest surprise absentee from the list for me: The Bridge on the River Kwai

It was on my old top 100, but I ditched it in favor of other films I've seen since making that list.

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 02:34 AM

Gone With the Wind is balls though. I've always thought so. Shriveled, hairy, sweaty, smelly, urine color-toned balls.

And it didn't make a single list out of 27.

jamaul

03-11-2009, 02:42 AM

And it didn't make a single list out of 27.

Thank
God.

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 02:48 AM

Thanks for reminding me I really need to rewatch Gone with the Wind.

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 02:49 AM

http://batig.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/memoriesofmurder2.jpg

#482. Memories of Murder (Bong Jun-Ho, 2003)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 79.5
Highest ranking: 66 (Boner M)

#481. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter.....and Spring (Kim Ki-duk, 2003)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 79.5
Highest ranking: 64 (EyesWideOpen)

#480. The Departed (Martin Scorsese, 2006)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 79
Highest ranking: 62 (Ezee E)

#479. The Breakfast Club (John Hughes, 1985)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 77.5
Highest ranking: 65 (The Mike)

#478. Exiled (Johnnie To, 2006)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 76.5
Highest ranking: 56 (Daniel Davis)

#477. Serenity (Joss Whedon, 2005)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 76.5
Highest ranking: 55 (The Mike)

#476. Quiz Show (Robert Redford, 1994)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 76
Highest ranking: 76 (Kurosawa Fan)

#475. Un Chien Andalou (Luis Bunuel, 1929)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 76
Highest ranking: 75 (Yxklyx)

#474. Monsieur Verdoux (Charlie Chaplin, 1947)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 76
Highest ranking: 71 (dreamdead)

#473. Baraka (Ron Fricke, 1992)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 76
Highest ranking: 61 (Antoine)

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 02:50 AM

#475. Serenity (Joss Whedon, 2005)

I was not expecting this.

Spinal

03-11-2009, 02:51 AM

#496. Punishment Park (Peter Watkins, 1971)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 88
Highest ranking: 84 (soitgoes...)

Corrections to a project this massive are probably going to be annoying, so apologies in advance.

But this is #49 on my list.

jamaul

03-11-2009, 02:52 AM

Thanks for reminding me I really need to rewatch Gone with the Wind.

Fine. Just remember though: you will never get those four hours back.

Spinal

03-11-2009, 02:53 AM

I swore Spinal listed Brave Little Toaster in his Top 100.

It's in my top 110.

Mysterious Dude

03-11-2009, 02:54 AM

Are you suggesting that my list is conventional? If so, dammit . . . I agree.I wasn't trying to make a comment on your list. Sorry if it seemed like that. I was just remarking about my maverick-ness.

I've made other lists, where I tried way too hard to be hip and different. But I was citing movies I didn't really love. Casablanca, Kane and Godfather are all on my list, and I seriously love them. They are all films I've revisted throughout my adulthood and, upon subsequent viewings, have continued to grow in my esteem.Your list is better than my list, circa 2003. It is the phoniest goddamn thing I've ever seen. I don't know who I was kidding.

1. The 400 Blows (1959)
2. The Bicycle Thief (1948)
3. Sunrise (1927)
4. M (1931)
5. Casablanca (1942)
6. Breathless (1960)
7. Taxi Driver (1976)
8. City Lights (1931)
9. Dr. Strangelove (1964)
10. Notorious (1946)

11. The Night of the Hunter (1955)
12. Raging Bull (1980)
13. Citizen Kane (1941)
14. Schindler’s List (1993)
15. On the Waterfront (1954)
16. Seven Samurai (1954)
17. The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957)
18. Bonnie and Clyde (1967)
19. The Godfather (1972)
20. Touch of Evil (1958)

21. Pulp Fiction (1994)
22. Gone with the Wind (1939)
23. The General (1927)
24. A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
25. Sunset Boulevard (1950)
26. Metropolis (1927)
27. Double Indemnity (1944)
28. La Grande Illusion (1937)
29. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
30. Badlands (1973)

31. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
32. The Elephant Man (1980)
33. Paths of Glory (1957)
34. The Graduate (1967)
35. Rear Window (1954)
36. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)
37. Pather Panchali (1955)
38. Wild Strawberries (1957)
39. E.T. The Extraterrestrial (1982)
40. Fargo (1996)

41. Psycho (1960)
42. Nosferatu (1922)
43. The Maltese Falcon (1941)
44. Alien (1979)
45. The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
46. The Rules of the Game (1939)
47. Intolerance (1916)
48. Chinatown (1974)
49. Ikiru (1952)
50. Napoléon (1927)

51. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (1975)
52. The Seventh Seal (1957)
53. All About Eve (1950)
54. The Conversation (1974)
55. Mean Streets (1973)
56. The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari (1920)
57. Imitation of Life (1959)
58. Do the Right Thing (1989)
59. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
60. Jaws (1975)

61. High Noon (1952)
62. Rashomon (1950)
63. Manhattan (1979)
64. The Birth of a Nation (1915)
65. Duck Soup (1933)
66. The African Queen (1951)
67. Traffic (2000)
68. Battleship Potemkin (1925)
69. The Crying Game (1992)
70. Annie Hall (1977)

71. Goodfellas (1990)
72. Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)
73. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
74. Platoon (1986)
75. The Kid Brother (1927)
76. Rebecca (1940)
77. White Heat (1949)
78. Boogie Nights (1997)
79. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
80. L’Atalante (1934)

81. Some Like it Hot (1959)
82. Our Hospitality (1923)
83. Ran (1985)
84. The Third Man (1949)
85. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
86. The Kid (1921)
87. Rosemary’s Baby (1968)
88. Fight Club (1999)
89. Laura (1944)
90. North by Northwest (1959)

91. The Deer Hunter (1978)
92. Way Down East (1920)
93. Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
94. The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
95. Captains Courageous (1937)
96. Twelve Angry Men (1957)
97. Angels With Dirty Faces (1938)
98. The Ox Bow Incident (1943)
99. I am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (1932)
100. Umberto D. (1952)

Kurosawa Fan

03-11-2009, 02:55 AM

#474. Quiz Show (Robert Redford, 1994)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 76
Highest ranking: 76 (Kurosawa Fan)

This is why Benny should have posted a list. This film would have been even higher. But I'm happy to be noticed as the poster who had it highest on his or her list.

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 02:56 AM

Antoine, I've seen more films on that list than any of the others besides my own. Because I've had to.

Mine in 2003 probably looked a lot like that but with more Oscar winners.

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 02:56 AM

Oh man, we didn't get Sven's list in here, did we?

Kurosawa Fan

03-11-2009, 02:58 AM

Oh man, we didn't get Sven's list in here, did we?

That's depressing. We need him back here. I hate for this to sound more sentimental than it needs to be, but I really miss him around here.

The Mike

03-11-2009, 03:19 AM

I wonder how many movies I can have highest rating on. :lol:

Ezee E

03-11-2009, 04:06 AM

I imagine if I saw Quiz Show again, it'd probably be up there for the list.

Kurosawa Fan

03-11-2009, 04:13 AM

I imagine if I saw Quiz Show again, it'd probably be up there for the list.

You should probably see it again.

Dead & Messed Up

03-11-2009, 04:20 AM

I imagine if I saw Quiz Show again, it'd probably be up there for the list.

I like everything about it except Rob Morrow's Dick Goodwin. He's fine in the role, but his part is awfully boring compared to the moral struggles going on with Stempel and Van Doren.

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 06:34 AM

Corrections to a project this massive are probably going to be annoying, so apologies in advance.

But this is #49 on my list.

Somehow I left you off for this film, even though it is there in the database......maybe I tallied before formatting the titles - anyhow, all corrections are very, very welcome as I'm sure there are more, and it is no problem to change them.

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 07:48 AM

http://thecinemaguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/le-trou-splash.jpg

#472. The Scarlet Empress (Josef von Sternberg, 1934)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 75
Highest ranking: 75 (Kurious Jorge)

#471. Carnival of Souls (Herk Harvey, 1962)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 75
Highest ranking: 59 (Boner)

#470. Peeping Tom (Michael Powell, 1960)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 74.5
Highest ranking: 63 (fasozupow)

#469. Misery (Rob Reiner, 1990)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 73.5
Highest ranking: 51 (Daniel Davis)

#468. Terminator 2: Judgement Day (James Cameron, 1991)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 73.5
Highest ranking: 48 (Ezee E)

#467. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (John Huston, 1948)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 72.5
Highest ranking: 70 (jamaul)

#466. Le Trou (Jacques Becker, 1960)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 72.5
Highest ranking: 64 (Boner M)

#465. The Wanderers (Philip Kaufmann, 1979)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 72.5
Highest ranking: 50 (fasozupow)

#464. The Set-Up (Robert Wise, 1949)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 72
Highest ranking: 60 (Philosophe Rouge)

#463. The Incredible Shrinking Man (Jack Arnold, 1957)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 71.5
Highest ranking: 66 (Dead & Messed Up)

#462. My Neighbors the Yamadas (Isao Takahata, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 71.5
Highest ranking: 60 (dreamdead)

#461. A Matter of Life and Death (Michael Powell, 1945)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 71.5
Highest ranking: 58 (Kurious Jorge)

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 08:15 AM

Random facts:

*The oldest film on the list is from 1916. The only years not represented after this are 1917-1919, 1922 and, not surprisingly, 2009.

* Number of films on the list = 507
% of those directed by women (including co-directors) = 1.4
Highest ranking for female-directed film on the list = 157

dreamdead

03-11-2009, 12:51 PM

#462. My Neighbors the Yamadas (Isao Takahata, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 71.5
Highest ranking: 60 (dreamdead)

Boo-yah. I could watch this film on any rainy day and always be sated.

% of those directed by women (including co-directors) = 1.4
Highest ranking for female-directed film on the list = 157

Cleo from 5 to 7, The Piano, or Lost in Translation? Hm, the hard money's on Coppola, though I probably should have given Varda more love here.

Ezee E

03-11-2009, 01:12 PM

I'll say American Psycho is the highest rated film directed by a woman.

Raiders

03-11-2009, 01:49 PM

I'll guess Meshes of the Afternoon.

Mysterious Dude

03-11-2009, 03:03 PM

It's too bad there aren't more great films made by women. I wonder what's holding them back.

I used to think Carol Reed was a woman.

Raiders

03-11-2009, 03:33 PM

It's too bad there aren't more great films made by women.

I think I would drop the word "great," and just make it that it is too bad there aren't more films made by women. It is rather strange. Maybe something genetically that women do not pursue the art of filmmaking as much as men do, or perhaps simply a history of the marginalization of women. However, I do think that from what I have seen their percentage of "great" movies is every bit as high as men. There is just a much smaller pool to choose from.

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 04:31 PM

I think I would drop the word "great," and just make it that it is too bad there aren't more films made by women. It is rather strange. Maybe something genetically that women do not pursue the art of filmmaking as much as men do, or perhaps simply a history of the marginalization of women. However, I do think that from what I have seen their percentage of "great" movies is every bit as high as men. There is just a much smaller pool to choose from.

Examining the history there's no reason to believe in any genetic factor it seems primarily to be one of marginalization, both in general but particularly in this industry.

Also my guess is The Ascent will be highest.

balmakboor

03-11-2009, 05:50 PM

Ezee E

03-11-2009, 05:57 PM

balmakboor

03-11-2009, 05:59 PM

I don't think you two are thinking of the same thing.

No, just a random change of subject on my part.

Ezee E

03-11-2009, 06:03 PM

But, to Raiders' idea, I still think that the Film world is a man's world behind the scenes. We hear more female producers, but I'm curious as to what that percentage is as well. I can't even think of a female cinematographer.

Despite the liberalism of the filmworld, I don't think male producers tend to feel comfortable having a female in charge of a huge project. Are there any that have done a project over $100 million?

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 06:05 PM

There's quite a number of female editors, designers, producers, etc., but the number of female screenwriters and directors is embarrassingly low.

Considering all the women I've known interested in those positions, it seems unlikely that the reason for this number has anything to do with any kind of female aversion to these professions.

balmakboor

03-11-2009, 06:10 PM

Are there any that have done a project over $100 million?

I guess I can't. I thought maybe Kathryn Bigelow but no. IMDB doesn't list a budget for Across the Universe.

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 06:11 PM

IMDB doesn't list a budget for Across the Universe.
$45 million.

45 million is also the number of iPhones expected to have sold by the end of 2009. Spooky!

balmakboor

03-11-2009, 06:17 PM

Derek

03-11-2009, 06:45 PM

Maybe I'm wrong. I often am. But aren't there far more "left wing" filmmakers (especially documentary filmmakers) than "right wing" ones? Is it something about filmmaking not exactly being the most financially practical line of work to go into? For every "Fahrenheit 911" and "Taxi to the Dark Side," why don't we have a well-made doc just as far to the other end of the spectrum?

The rejuvenation of the documentary came in what, '02 or '03? I think a lot of filmmakers were inspired or disgusted with the Bush Administration over the past 8 years that alone goes a long way in explaining the overwhelming imbalance. Also, conservatives generally tend to defend the status quo, stand for more traditional values, believe in limiting the powers of government, arguing for self-reliance over collective improvement. Political films generally tend to challenge the way things are, stick up for the disenfranchised and question the powers that be. The status quo needn't defend itself, only show the dangers of change/progressivism/what have you or, even better, say nothing at all and hope people accept the way things are. Which they often do. I simply don't think the documentary form is really suited for its needs like it does more progressive filmmakers. You have your Tyler Perry's and Fireproof's as narrative film examples and certain news programs/networks as other. Hardcore right-wingers have tried comedy and if you've seen the short-lived right-wing rip-off of The Daily Show or An American Carol (I've only seen clips, but based on that and word of mouth, it's awful), you'll know why there aren't more.

But, to Raiders' idea, I still think that the Film world is a man's world behind the scenes. We hear more female producers, but I'm curious as to what that percentage is as well. I can't even think of a female cinematographer.

Agnes Godard, but most of her work is with Claire Denis. I can't think of any others.

NickGlass

03-11-2009, 07:20 PM

Agnes Godard, but most of her work is with Claire Denis. I can't think of any others.

A woman, Maryse Alberti, was the DP for The Wrestler. Do you know that a woman has never been nominated for Best Cinematography at the Academy Awards? Insanity.

Raiders

03-11-2009, 07:27 PM

Do you know that a woman has never been nominated for Best Cinematography at the Academy Awards? Insanity.

A woman has only been nominated three times for Best Director. And we have already determined there are far more women directors than cinematographers. Hollywood has never been accepting it seems of women directors. Call it a "glass ceiling" if you will. How many women directors can you think of from classic--hell, even up to the 90s--Hollywood movies?

Ezee E

03-11-2009, 08:36 PM

Kathryn Bigelow and Penny Marshall are the only ones that come to mind pre-90's.

Amy Heckerling.

Uh...

Watashi

03-11-2009, 08:41 PM

Agnes Varda

soitgoes...

03-11-2009, 08:42 PM

The only classic Hollywood female director I can think of is Ida Lupino.

MadMan

03-11-2009, 08:49 PM

I've seen 17 films off of the current list so far. And I must admit that I have seen very little from actual female directors myself. Only Point Break and American Psycho come to mind; I have yet to view anything from Sofia Coppola.

Dead & Messed Up

03-11-2009, 09:54 PM

This got me thinking about my favorite woman-directed movies...

Impromptu list time.

01) Jill Sprecher's 13 Conversations About One Thing
02) Kathryn Bigelow's Near Dark
03) Adrienne Shelley's Waitress
04) Niki Caro's Whale Rider
05) Penelope Spheeris's Wayne's World
06) Mary Harron's American Psycho
07) Sofia Coppola's The Virgin Suicides
08) Amy Heckerling's Clueless
09) Mira Nair's The Namesake
10) Miranda July's Me and You and Everyone We Know

Pop Trash

03-11-2009, 09:59 PM

The only classic Hollywood female director I can think of is Ida Lupino.

Yeah I was just going to mention her. I still haven't seen anything she has done but I guess she is a respected low budget noir director (ala stuff like Detour)

Pop Trash

03-11-2009, 10:04 PM

This got me thinking about my favorite woman-directed movies...

I'll play:
1. Lost in Translation
2. Meshes of the Afternoon
3. Fast Times at Ridgemont High
4. Point Break
5. Harlan County USA
6. Wayne's World
7. The Piano
8. Near Dark
9. Clueless
10. American Psycho

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 10:10 PM

http://screenrant.com/images/downey-iron-man0114.jpg

#460. Au Revoir Les Enfants (Louis Malle, 1987)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 70.5
Highest ranking: 66 (Kurosawa Fan)

#459. Pi (Darren Aronofsky, 1998)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 70
Highest ranking: 44 (Daniel Davis)

#458. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock, 1938)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 69.5
Highest ranking: 61 (Weeping Guitar)

#457. Stage Door (Gregory La Cava, 1937)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 69
Highest ranking: 54 (Raiders)

#456. Iron Man (Jon Favreau, 2008)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 69
Highest ranking: 49 (The Mike)

#455. Repulsion (Roman Polanski, 1965)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 67.5
Highest ranking: 43 (Raiders)

#454. The House of Mirth (Terrence Davies, 2000)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 67.5
Highest ranking: 41 (dreamdead)

#453. Death Proof (Quentin Tarantino, 2007)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 67.5
Highest ranking: 35 (EyesWideOpen)

#452. Point Blank (John Boorman, 1967)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 67
Highest ranking: 65 (Raiders)

#451. Raise the Red Lantern (Zhang Yimou, 1991)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 67
Highest ranking: 63 (Spinal)

soitgoes...

03-11-2009, 10:13 PM

1. Harlan County U.S.A. (Kopple)
2. News from Home (Akerman)
3. Meshes of the Afternoon (Deren)
4. Titus (Taymor)
5. The Gleaners and I (Varda)
6. Lost in Translation (Coppola)
7. Cleo from 5 to 7 (Varda)
8. Wendy and Lucy (Reichardt)
9. At Land (Deren)
10. Wings (Shepitko)

Or something like that.

Winston*

03-11-2009, 10:15 PM

Despite the liberalism of the filmworld, I don't think male producers tend to feel comfortable having a female in charge of a huge project. Are there any that have done a project over $100 million?

Speed Racer

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 10:33 PM

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 10:34 PM

Speed Racer

I've heard that apparently the sex change thing was just a rumor. He does like to dress as a woman but the sex change bit seems to be unfounded as of yet.

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 10:35 PM

Iron Man FTWTF. I'm so not going to be happy with The Dark Knight placement on this shit.

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 10:36 PM

I do worry about this gender bias. My niece is going into filmmaking and will be traveling to NY to check out NYU in a few weeks. Tuition alone is $50,000 per year. Her mom has $8000 per year available and is considering taking out a loan for the other $42,000. Wow! Sounds like a too big of a gamble to me. I'd hate to be a woman going into the industry already $168,000 in debt.

I know quite a few people who went to Tisch, they all regretted it. Not because it's a bad school but just because undergrad film degrees aren't that great. Tell her to go to a cheaper school and/or somewhere we she can get a scholarship for undergrad and shoot for a masters in film at the top schools. Better yet do what I did and go to school in Canada where tuition is cheap as a mofo.

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 10:40 PM

The rejuvenation of the documentary came in what, '02 or '03? I think a lot of filmmakers were inspired or disgusted with the Bush Administration over the past 8 years that alone goes a long way in explaining the overwhelming imbalance. Also, conservatives generally tend to defend the status quo, stand for more traditional values, believe in limiting the powers of government, arguing for self-reliance over collective improvement. Political films generally tend to challenge the way things are, stick up for the disenfranchised and question the powers that be. The status quo needn't defend itself, only show the dangers of change/progressivism/what have you or, even better, say nothing at all and hope people accept the way things are. Which they often do. I simply don't think the documentary form is really suited for its needs like it does more progressive filmmakers. You have your Tyler Perry's and Fireproof's as narrative film examples and certain news programs/networks as other. Hardcore right-wingers have tried comedy and if you've seen the short-lived right-wing rip-off of The Daily Show or An American Carol (I've only seen clips, but based on that and word of mouth, it's awful), you'll know why there aren't more.

Following off of this...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06174/700500-254.stm

http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Conservative-Documentaries.htm

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 10:45 PM

http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Conservative-Documentaries.htm

1. [Fearmongering]
2. [Hero worship]
3. [See #1]
4. [See #2]
5. [See #1]
6. [See #2]
7. [See #1]
8. [See #2]

Though maybe (hopefully?) now that the so-called "conservative" party has suffered a pronounced defeat, perhaps we might get some higher quality and thoughtful films from the right?

Also, note--there are plenty of stupid, paranoid lefty docs out there, too.

lovejuice

03-11-2009, 10:46 PM

Iron Man FTWTF. I'm so not going to be happy with The Dark Knight placement on this shit.
second.

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 10:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_directors

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 10:51 PM

Though maybe (hopefully?) now that the so-called "conservative" party has suffered a pronounced defeat, perhaps we might get some higher quality and thoughtful films from the right?

Nah, they will always make garbage.

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 10:55 PM

Nah, they will always make garbage.

Sigh. You're probably right.

A man can dream, though, can't he?

transmogrifier

03-11-2009, 10:57 PM

http://tnaron.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/groundhog-day.jpg

#450. Kung Fu Hustle (Stephen Chow, 2004)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 67
Highest ranking: 50 (EyesWideOpen)

#449. Gun Crazy (Joseph H. Lewis, 1950)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 65.5
Highest ranking: 44 (Philosophe Rouge)

#448. Female Trouble (John Waters, 1974)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 65.5
Highest ranking: 37 (Russ)

#447. Pickup on South Street (Sam Fuller, 1953)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 65
Highest ranking: 53 (Russ)

#446. The Blue Angel (Josef von Sternberg, 1930)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 64.5
Highest ranking: 51 (Raiders)

#445. Lost in Translation (Sophia Coppola, 2003)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 64
Highest ranking: 51 (EyesWideOpen)

#444. The French Connection (William Friedkin, 1971)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 63
Highest ranking: 45 (Kurosawa Fan)

#443. Say Anything (Cameron Crowe, 1989)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 63
Highest ranking: 32 (The Mike)

#441. Groundhog Day (Harold Ramis, 1993)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 62.5
Highest ranking: 55 (Ezee E)

#441. Henry V (Kenneth Branagh, 1989)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 62.5
Highest ranking: 55 (Fezzik)

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 10:57 PM

Sigh. You're probably right.

A man can dream, though, can't he?

I prefer to dream about riding dragons made out of chocolate.

Sycophant

03-11-2009, 10:58 PM

I prefer to dream about riding dragons made out of chocolate.

OMGawesome!

lovejuice

03-11-2009, 11:01 PM

Qrazy

03-11-2009, 11:07 PM

regarding the right-winged documentary. let's put it this way, global warming and evolution are facts. you want to say otherwise? do fiction! :twisted:

i am interested in pro-capitalist documentary. economics are perhaps the only area where a sensible right-winged documentary can be made.

Except not really because most left wingers (such a broad and meaningless term) embrace capitalism they just don't embrace absolute free market systems. A conservative would have to make a film about trickle down theory or some such and that's been pretty much debunked at this point. Greenspan has more or less recanted... not that it matters what he thinks.

lovejuice

03-11-2009, 11:13 PM

A conservative would have to make a film about trickle down theory or some such and that's been pretty much debunked at this point. Greenspan has more or less recanted... not that it matters what he thinks.
are you absolutely certain trickle down theory is debunked? (that's a question, not an insult.) i recently read globalization and its discontent (2002), and it seems even stiglitz dances around this issue. sure, he thinks it's bull, but he admits a few big names still believe in it.

though TDT is the context of third world countries (the subject of stiglitz's book) are markedly different from TDT in the developed country.

balmakboor

03-12-2009, 12:46 AM

transmogrifier

03-12-2009, 01:25 AM

http://www.filmlinc.com/archive/wrt/programs/12-2002/jpegs/fuller-parkrow.jpg

#440. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (George Roy Hill, 1969)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 62
Highest ranking: 56 (Fezzik)

#439. Ménilmontant (Dimitri Kirsanoff, 1926)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 61.5
Highest ranking: 37 (soitgoes...)

#438. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (Mel Stuart, 1971)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 61.5
Highest ranking: 27 (EyesWideOpen)

#437. Faces (John Cassavetes, 1968)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 61
Highest ranking: 61 (Boner M)

#436. The Green Mile (Frank Darabont, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 61
Highest ranking: 30 (Dead & Messed Up)

#435. Ballad of a Soldier (Grigori Chukhrai, 1959)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 61
Highest ranking: 29 (Philosophe Rouge)

#434. Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 60.5
Highest ranking: 52 (Russ)

#433. Dirty Harry (Don Siegel, 1971)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 60.5
Highest ranking: 46 (The Mike)

#432. Park Row (Sam Fuller, 1952)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 60.5
Highest ranking: 36 (Raiders)

#431. Opening Night (John Cassavetes, 1977)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 60
Highest ranking: 60 (fasozupow)

MadMan

03-12-2009, 01:33 AM

I must confess that I had no idea that Wayne's World was directed by a woman. Cool.

And neither The Dark Knight nor Iron Man made my final cut for my planned/unfinished Top 100. TDK stood a better chance, though.

Qrazy

03-12-2009, 01:57 AM

are you absolutely certain trickle down theory is debunked? (that's a question, not an insult.) i recently read globalization and its discontent (2002), and it seems even stiglitz dances around this issue. sure, he thinks it's bull, but he admits a few big names still believe in it.

though TDT is the context of third world countries (the subject of stiglitz's book) are markedly different from TDT in the developed country.

Well they haven't put the absolute last nail in the coffin but there is a coffin and it's in it.

EyesWideOpen

03-12-2009, 02:51 AM

Dammit, I just realized I forgot It's a Wonderful Life on my list which would have definitely made my top ten.

transmogrifier

03-12-2009, 06:56 AM

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#430. The Green Ray (Eric Rohmer, 1986)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 60
Highest ranking: 58 (dreamdead)

#429. The Cameraman (Buster Keaton, 1928)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 59.5
Highest ranking: 37 (Kurious Jorge)

#428. Intolerance (D.W. Griffith, 1916)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 59
Highest ranking: 59 (Antoine)

#427. The Twilight Samurai (Yoji Yamada, 2002)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 59
Highest ranking: 55 (Sycophant)

#426. Assault on Precinct 13 (John Carpenter, 1976)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 59
Highest ranking: 52 (TheMike)

#425. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (Park Chan-Wook, 2001)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 59
Highest ranking: 29 (EyesWideOpen)

#424. The Circus (Charlie Chaplin, 1928)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 59
Highest ranking: 27 (Kurosawa Fan)

#423. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (Terry Gilliam, 1998)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 58
Highest ranking: 53 (megladon8)

#422. Pather Panchali (Satyajit Ray, 1955)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 58
Highest ranking: 38 (Antoine)

#421. The Bride With White Hair (Ronny Yu, 1993)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 58
Highest ranking: 33 (Daniel Davis)

B-side

03-12-2009, 03:34 PM

I'm disappointed that I'm one of a mere two that listed those two Cassavetes films.

balmakboor

03-12-2009, 04:01 PM

I'm disappointed that I'm one of a mere two that listed those two Cassavetes films.

Ok, Ok. Blame me and my stupid rule. :) At least I listed Opening Night which I think is brilliant. I would've listed A Woman Under the Influence and possibly Killing of a Chinese Bookie if I was listing multiple films per director.

The part that would kill me is deciding which films to lose to make space for those and others.

Sven

03-12-2009, 04:32 PM

Kurosawa Fan

03-12-2009, 04:34 PM

May I recommend after this bitchen list is complete (rep!) that you provide a simple list without all the knickknacks, so that I might copy-paste it into my ever-growing document of recommended movies?

Mildly sad that I neglected to include my own list, but at the same time, it would've needed a massive overhaul. Plus, I already know those movies are good.

He's constantly going to update it, so go post your list so it can be included in future updates. Or else I'll be pissed. That's really the only threat I have. Boner took all the fight out of me.

NickGlass

03-12-2009, 04:46 PM

#448. Female Trouble (John Waters, 1974)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 65.5
Highest ranking: 37 (Russ)

Damn. I came so close to giving this three votes, but my stupid rule and a more entertaining Cry Baby got in the way.

You consider Cry Baby superior to Female Trouble? Please, please try to justify this in any emotional and intellectual way to me now.

balmakboor

03-12-2009, 05:17 PM

You consider Cry Baby superior to Female Trouble? Please, please try to justify this in any emotional and intellectual way to me now.

From the sounds of it, I'm sure I won't convince you of it. But, I find Cry Baby thoroughly entertaining. I also think Waters improved considerably as a director with Hairspray and Cry Baby. It doesn't have the level of subversion of early Waters, but it has a slickness that feels like growth to me rather than "sell out." Cry Baby is a near perfect movie that both is and spoofs 50s movies like Rebel Without a Cause and Jailhouse Rock. Plus Depp has so damn much fun with the role.

Female Trouble would be my number 2 Waters pick especially for the "I hate Christmas" and Devine raping Devine scenes.

transmogrifier

03-12-2009, 05:42 PM

He's constantly going to update it, so go post your list so it can be included in future updates. Or else I'll be pissed. That's really the only threat I have. Boner took all the fight out of me.

This is correct.

transmogrifier

03-12-2009, 05:43 PM

May I recommend after this bitchen list is complete (rep!) that you provide a simple list without all the knickknacks, so that I might copy-paste it into my ever-growing document of recommended movies?

Mildly sad that I neglected to include my own list, but at the same time, it would've needed a massive overhaul. Plus, I already know those movies are good.

Yes, I will provide an alphabetical list at the completion of the project, never you fear.

B-side

03-12-2009, 09:26 PM

Ok, Ok. Blame me and my stupid rule. :) At least I listed Opening Night which I think is brilliant. I would've listed A Woman Under the Influence and possibly Killing of a Chinese Bookie if I was listing multiple films per director.

The part that would kill me is deciding which films to lose to make space for those and others.

Grr.:evil:

It's all good. I'd be interested to see the effect it would have if you adjusted your list appropriately both in terms of who you'd end up being closer to in terms of taste as well as on the overall list itself.

transmogrifier

03-12-2009, 11:19 PM

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#420. Salt of the Earth (Herbert J. Biberman, 1954)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 60
Highest ranking: 45 (Antoine)

#419. Rope (Alfred Hitchcock, 1948)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 57.5
Highest ranking: 17 (Russ)

#418. The Sixth Sense (M. Night Shyamalan, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 57
Highest ranking: 47 (EyesWideOpen)

#417. Deconstructing Harry (Woody Allen, 1997)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 57
Highest ranking: 46 (Sycophant)

#416. The Straight Story (David Lynch, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 57
Highest ranking: 42 (Russ)

#415. It Happened One Night (Frank Capra, 1934)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 56.5
Highest ranking: 37 (Dead & Messed Up)

#414. Masculin-Feminin (Jean-Luc Godard, 1966)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 56
Highest ranking: 39 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#413. Delicatessen (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 1991)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 55.5
Highest ranking: 30 (eternity)

#412. La Promesse (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 1996)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 55
Highest ranking: 55 (dreamdead)

#411. The Ox-Bow Incident (William A. Wellman, 1943)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 54.5
Highest ranking: 10 (soitgoes...)

transmogrifier

03-13-2009, 09:42 AM

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#410. My Man Godfrey (Gregory La Cava, 1936)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 54
Highest ranking: 37 (The Mike)

#409. Les Diaboliques (Henri-Georges Clouzot, 1955)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 54
Highest ranking: 34 (Boner)

#408. The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover (Peter Greenaway, 1989)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 54
Highest ranking: 16 (Spinal)

#407. 3 Women (Robert Altman, 1977)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 53.5
Highest ranking: 47 (Boner M)

#406. The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou (Wes Anderson, 2004)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 53
Highest ranking: 41 (eternity)

#405. Jackie Brown (Quentin Tarantino, 1997)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 52.5
Highest ranking: 44 (Ezee E)

#404. Pleasantville (Gary Ross, 1998)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 52.5
Highest ranking: 24 (Watashi)

#403. Holiday (George Cukor, 1938)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 52
Highest ranking: 41 (megladon8)

#402. Shoeshine (Vittorio De Sica, 1946)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 52
Highest ranking: 28 (Antoine)

#401. Waking Life (Richard Linklater, 2001)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 52
Highest ranking: 26 (Antoine)

Qrazy

03-14-2009, 06:07 AM

Trans could you also post all the films that didn't get two mentions? I'd like to use these lists for recs and I'll go through them myself if I have to but I figure perhaps you have already compiled the other single mention titles.

transmogrifier

03-14-2009, 01:51 PM

Qrazy

03-14-2009, 04:46 PM

Sure, I'll whip that up at the end.

Thanks kindly.

transmogrifier

03-15-2009, 07:48 AM

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#400. A Bug's Life (John Lasseter & Andrew Stanton, 1998)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 50.5
Highest ranking: 30 (Kurosawa Fan)

#399. The Son (Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne, 2002)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 49.5
Highest ranking: 48 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#398. The 39 Steps (Alfred Hitchcock, 1935)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 49.5
Highest ranking: 37 (Philosophe Rouge)

#397. Stolen Kisses (Francois Truffaut, 1968)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 49.5
Highest ranking: 33 (Kurious Jorge)

#396. Satyricon (Federico Fellini, 1969)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 49.5
Highest ranking: 24 (Antoine)

#395. La Haine (Mathieu Kassovitz, 1995)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 49.5
Highest ranking: 4 (transmogrifier)

#394. Harvey (Henry Koster, 1950)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 49
Highest ranking: 47 (megladon8)

#393. Black Narcissus (Michael Powell, 1947)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 49
Highest ranking: 24 (Kurious Jorge)

#392. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 48
Highest ranking: 15 (megladon8)

#391. The Insider (Michael Mann, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 47.5
Highest ranking: 23 (eternity)

"Ordinary people under extraordinary pressure, Mike. What the hell do you expect? Grace and consistency?"

balmakboor

03-15-2009, 02:07 PM

I gotta say I'm surprised by The Dark Knight only being on two top 100 lists around here. I wonder if that's an indication that its popularity will fade fast.

Wouldn't bother me.

dreamdead

03-15-2009, 02:11 PM

I gotta say I'm surprised by The Dark Knight only being on two top 100 lists around here. I wonder if that's an indication that its popularity will fade fast.

Wouldn't bother me.

I wouldn't count on it. While the rhapsody has worn off for most, those who are dedicated to the cause of superhero films and those films that chronicle all of its mythos, as I suspect meg and a few others are, will undoubtedly keep the acclaim going strong. We all have our styles that are near and dear to us, after all.

For myself it's high time I get to Black Narcissus and (hopefully) show that film some more love. :)

balmakboor

03-15-2009, 02:18 PM

For myself it's high time I get to Black Narcissus and (hopefully) show that film some more love. :)

I know there's already a Bluray out there somewhere, but I was reading the Criterion forums last night and it seems almost assured that their promised remaster of Black Narcissus will include a Bluray. That'll be my first ever double-dip if it comes about.

Boner M

03-15-2009, 02:33 PM

The Son got only two votes? Weird.

Bosco B Thug

03-16-2009, 06:49 AM

But, to Raiders' idea, I still think that the Film world is a man's world behind the scenes. We hear more female producers, but I'm curious as to what that percentage is as well. I can't even think of a female cinematographer. Doesn't really change the matters at hand with the issue, but FYI for everyone, Kiyoshi Kurosawa has been working with a woman DP since Loft, up to now with Tokyo Sonata.

Regarding trans' massive statisticking: aw. cool.

transmogrifier

03-16-2009, 08:02 AM

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/videodrome02.jpg

#390. Fallen Angels (Wong Kar-Wai, 1995)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 47
Highest ranking: 38 (Boner M)

#389. Pandora's Box (Georg Wilhelm Pabst, 2002)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 47
Highest ranking: 18 (Philosophe Rouge)

#388. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (Sam Peckinpah, 1974)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 46.5
Highest ranking: 44 (Raiders)

#387. The Kid (Charlie Chaplin, 1921)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 46.5
Highest ranking: 36 (Antoine)

#386. Bill Cosby: Himself (Bill Cosby, 1983)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 46.5
Highest ranking: 34 (Daniel Davis)

#384. Batman Begins (Christopher Nolan, 2005)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 46
Highest ranking: 29 (megladon8)

#384. Bigger than Life (Nicholas Ray, 1956)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 46
Highest ranking: 29 (Boner M)

#383. Baseball (Ken Burns, 1994)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 45.5
Highest ranking: 29 (Kurosawa Fan)

#382. Woman of the Dunes (Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1964)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 45.5
Highest ranking: 11 (Russ)

#381. Videodrome (David Cronenberg, 1983)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 45
Highest ranking: 21 (eternity)

"I can smell shit 100 miles away... sometimes closer. "

transmogrifier

03-16-2009, 08:27 AM

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#380. Arsenic and Old Lace (Frank Capra, 1944)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 44.5
Highest ranking: 9 (The Mike)

#379. The Road Warrior (George Miller, 1981)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 43.5
Highest ranking: 8 (Dead & Messed Up)

#378. For a Few Dollars More (Sergio Leone, 1965)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 42.5
Highest ranking: 4 (megladon8)

#377. Nosferatu: Phantom der Nacht (Werner Herzog, 1979)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 42
Highest ranking: 28 (megladon8)

#376. Songs from the Second Floor (Roy Andersson, 2000)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 42
Highest ranking: 24 (Yxklyx)

#375. The Boxer From Shantung (Cheh Chang and Hsueh Li Pao, 1972)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 41.5
Highest ranking: 2 (Daniel Davis)

#374. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (Jacques Demy, 1964)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 41
Highest ranking: 38 (Watashi)

#373. Happiness (Todd Solondz, 1998)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 41
Highest ranking: 30 (Russ)

#372. Swing Time (George Stevens, 1936)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 39.5
Highest ranking: 11 (Fezzik)

"- I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you.
- But I'm not laughing."

transmogrifier

03-16-2009, 08:31 AM

Trivia:

For a Few Dollars More and The Good, The Bad and the Ugly made the list. A Fistful of Dollars didn't.

soitgoes...

03-16-2009, 10:14 AM

http://www.tiff07.ca/images/films2007/704201750491344.jpg
That's from You, the Living. Unless the scene showed up in Andersson's previous film as well, you've been duped by Google.

transmogrifier

03-16-2009, 05:04 PM

That's from You, the Living. Unless the scene showed up in Andersson's previous film as well, you've been duped by Google.

Indeed. That shows me for trying to represent films that I haven't seen myself. :)

balmakboor

03-16-2009, 05:29 PM

Indeed. That shows me for trying to represent films that I haven't seen myself. :)

It fooled me. I thought that was from Songs. It is filled with shots just like that for sure.

dreamdead

03-16-2009, 05:35 PM

The Son got only two votes? Weird.

Yeah, sorry 'bout that. Though I find all of the Dardenne Bros. films wonderful, save for Rosetta which I can't find a copy of, I've placed my lot on La Promesse as the starting point of their cinema verite and naturalistic pacing, and thus privilege it the most of their work.

Kurious Jorge v3.1

03-17-2009, 03:49 AM

#377. The Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 42
Highest ranking: 38 (eternity)

I had it #5. I have a feeling you may have not counted my mention of this film at all, thus the list is now tainted.

transmogrifier

03-17-2009, 07:17 AM

I had it #5. I have a feeling you may have not counted my mention of this film at all, thus the list is now tainted.

Articles or the lack thereof, formatter's nightmare.

transmogrifier

03-17-2009, 07:42 AM

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#371. Trainspotting (Danny Boyle, 1996)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 39
Highest ranking: 39 (eternity & transmogrifier)

#370. Once (John Carney, 2006)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 39
Highest ranking: 37 (Fezzik)

#369. Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1989)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 39
Highest ranking: 30 (Jamaul)

#368. High Fidelity (Stephen Frears, 2000)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 38.5
Highest ranking: 27 (Dead & Messed Up)

#367. The Kid Brother (Ted Wilde & J.A. Howe, 1927)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 38.5
Highest ranking: 20 (Russ)

#366. Crimes and Misdemeanors (Woody Allen, 1989)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 38.5
Highest ranking: 17 (Kurosawa Fan)

#365. The Professional (Luc Besson, 1994)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 36.5
Highest ranking: 23 (Ezee E)

#364. My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyasaki, 1988)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 36.5
Highest ranking: 7 (EyesWideOpen)

#363. The Stunt Man (Richard Rush, 1980)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 35.5
Highest ranking: 19 (Russ)

#362. The Ice Storm (Ang Lee, 1997)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 35
Highest ranking: 26 (transmogrifier)

#361. The Player (Robert Altman, 1992)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 35
Highest ranking: 17 (eternity)

"I knew there was a reason I wore a skirt today."

B-side

03-19-2009, 08:14 PM

Moar.

Sycophant

03-20-2009, 02:21 AM

Surprised that there Totoro film's so durned low.

EyesWideOpen

03-20-2009, 02:42 AM

Surprised that there Totoro film's so durned low.

I did my best, so blame everyone else.

Sycophant

03-20-2009, 02:49 AM

I did my best, so blame everyone else.

Hey, turns out I actually was the other guy who supported it! Forgot about that!

transmogrifier

03-20-2009, 07:24 AM

Moar.

Sorry, work got in the way. Stay tuned.

transmogrifier

03-20-2009, 08:24 AM

http://www.saintjean.co.uk/new%20images/breath3.gif

#360. Scorpio Rising (Kenneth Anger, 1964)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 34.5
Highest ranking: 29 (Fasozupow)

#359. Brick (Rian Johnson, 2005)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 34.5
Highest ranking: 2 (eternity)

#358. Glory (Ed Zwick, 1989)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 34.5
Highest ranking: 1 (Fezzik)

#357. Pinnochio (Hamilton Luske & Ben Sharpsteen, 1940)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 34
Highest ranking: 26 (Dead & Messed Up)

#356. Portrait of Jennie (William Dieterle, 1948)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 33.5
Highest ranking: 26 (Philosophe Rouge)

#355. Run Lola Run (Tom Tykwer, 1998)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 33.5
Highest ranking: 10 (Yxklyx)

#354. Breathless (Jean-Luc Godard, 1962)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 33.5
Highest ranking: 5 (Antoine)

#353. Satantango (Bela Tarr, 1994)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 33
Highest ranking: 22 (Boner M)

#352. High Noon (Fred Zinneman, 1952)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 32.5
Highest ranking: 17 (The Mike)

#351. George Washington (David Gordon Green, 2000)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 31
Highest ranking: 29 (Raiders)

"I'm a hero because I like to save people's lives. Stuff like that."

transmogrifier

03-20-2009, 08:44 AM

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#350. Early Summer (Yasujiro Ozu, 1951)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 31
Highest ranking: 20 (Kurious Jorge)

#349. Pierrot le fou (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 31
Highest ranking: 9 (Fasozupow)

#348. Wild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 29
Highest ranking: 23 (Kurious Jorge)

#346. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (Robert Wiene, 1920)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 29
Highest ranking: 11 (Antoine)

#346. Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (Russ Meyer, 1970)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 29
Highest ranking: 11 (eternity)

#345. Grease (Randall Kleiser, 1978)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 27.5
Highest ranking: 23 (transmogrifier)

#344. 2046 (Wong Kar-Wai, 2004)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 27
Highest ranking: 19 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#343. Shock Corridor (Sam Fuller, 1963)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 27
Highest ranking: 14 (Raiders)

#342. The Exterminating Angel (Luis Bunuel, 1962)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 26
Highest ranking: 16 (Boner M)

#341. American Psycho (Mary Harron, 2000)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 26
Highest ranking: 2 (megladon8)

"I'm glad I don't like spinach, because if I did then I would eat it, and I can't stand the stuff."

transmogrifier

03-20-2009, 09:27 AM

http://theseventhart.files.wordpress. com/2008/04/koyaanisqatsi.jpg

#340. Koyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio, 1982)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 25
Highest ranking: 24 (fasozupow)

#339. Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 25
Highest ranking: 15 (Yxklyx)

#338. The Godfather Part II (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 25
Highest ranking: 5 (Ezee E)

#337. Viridiana (Luis Bunuel, 1961)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 24.5
Highest ranking: 9 (jamaul)

#336. A Touch of Zen (King Hu, 1969)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 22.5
Highest ranking: 16 (Daniel Davis)

#335. Cure (Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 1997)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 22
Highest ranking: 18 (EyesWideOpen)

#334. Fantasia (Various, 1940)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 22
Highest ranking: 10 (Dead & Messed Up)

#333. When Harry Met Sally (Rob Reiner, 1989)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 22
Highest ranking: 18 (transmogrifier)

#332. Scream (Wes Craven, 1996)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 21
Highest ranking: 15 (Daniel Davis)

#331. Picnic at Hanging Rock (Peter Weir, 1975)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 19.5
Highest ranking: 19 (Yxklyx)

"My father's name was Antonio Andolini... and this is for you."

transmogrifier

03-20-2009, 10:09 AM

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/sevenarts/cinema/filmsilove/13moons2.jpg

#330. Funky Forest; The First Contact (Katsuhito Ishii and Hajime Ishimine, 2005)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 18.5
Highest ranking: 15 (Sycophant)

#329. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 18
Highest ranking: 17 (jamaul)

#328. Solaris (Steven Soderbergh, 2002)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 18
Highest ranking: 13 (megladon8)

#327. Werckmeister Harmonies (Bela Tarr, 2000)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 17
Highest ranking: 7 (Raiders)

#326. Hiroshima Mon Amour (Alain Resnais, 1959)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 15.5
Highest ranking: 3 (Kurious Jorge)

#325. Short Cuts (Robert Altman, 1993)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 15.5
Highest ranking: 1 (transmogrifier)

#324. Napolean (Abel Gance, 1927)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 14.5
Highest ranking: 3 (Antoine)

#323. Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1980)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 12.5
Highest ranking: 4 (fasozupow)

#322. Elephant (Gus van Sant, 2003)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 12
Highest ranking: 10 (eternity)

#321. In a Year of 13 Moons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1978)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 10.5
Highest ranking: 2 (Brightside)

#320. The Exorcist (William Friedkin, 1973)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 8.5
Highest ranking: 7 (Ezee E)

#319. I am Cuba (Mikhail Kalatozov, 1964)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 4
Highest ranking: 2 (fasozupow)

"I think the point is to make us despair. To see ourselves as... animal and ugly. To make us reject the possibility that God could love us."

balmakboor

03-20-2009, 12:51 PM

#323. Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1980)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 12.5
Highest ranking: 18 (transmogrifier)

I must point out that I ranked this 4th.

transmogrifier

03-20-2009, 07:17 PM

#323. Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1980)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 12.5
Highest ranking: 18 (transmogrifier)

I must point out that I ranked this 4th.

Yep, I just forgot to change the last line after a copy and paste. Cheers.

eternity

03-20-2009, 11:04 PM

#359. Brick (Rian Johnson, 2005)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 34.5
Highest ranking: 2 (eternity)

Success!

Qrazy

03-20-2009, 11:54 PM

Which films are the last two pictures from?

Stay Puft

03-21-2009, 12:02 AM

Which films are the last two pictures from?

Koyaanisqatsi
In a Year of 13 Moons

For future reference: Right click to check the URL. ;)

Qrazy

03-21-2009, 12:06 AM

Koyaanisqatsi
In a Year of 13 Moons

For future reference: Right click to check the URL. ;)

Those were my guesses, (because of all the characters facing the camera in the first) but don't remember that scene... and sort of remember the second image (is it from the opening?). As to the URL thing... I fail.

B-side

03-21-2009, 06:05 AM

#321. In a Year of 13 Moons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1978)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 10.5
Highest ranking: 2 (Brightside)

I'm too lazy to check. Who else had this?

Spinal

03-21-2009, 06:13 AM

#321. In a Year of 13 Moons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1978)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 10.5
Highest ranking: 2 (Brightside)

I'm too lazy to check. Who else had this?

Probably Raiders.

transmogrifier

03-21-2009, 09:41 AM

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#318. In the Company of Men (Neil LaBute, 1997)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 88
Highest ranking: 81 (Antoine)

#317. Oasis (Lee Chang-Dong, 2002)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 85
Highest ranking: 67 (Boner M)

#316. The Innocents (Jack Clayton, 1961)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 83
Highest ranking: 72 (The Mike)

#315. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 83
Highest ranking: 69 (fasozupow)

#314. Waiting for Guffman (Christopher Guest, 1996)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 81
Highest ranking: 57 (Daniel Davis)

#313. Fitzcarraldo (Werner Herzog, 1982)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 80
Highest ranking: 78 (Ezee E)

#312. The Up Series (Paul Almond & Michael Apted, 1965-2005)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 79.7
Highest ranking: 48 (jamaul)

#311. Adaptation (Spike Jonze, 2002)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 79.3
Highest ranking: 65 (The Weeping Guitar)

#310. Election (Alexander Payne, 1999)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 78
Highest ranking: 64 (eternity)

#309. Targets (Peter Bogdanovich, 2002)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 77.7
Highest ranking: 59 (The Mike)

#308. Santa Sangre (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1989)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 76.5
Highest ranking: 61 (Russ)

#307. Dark City (Alex Proyas, 1998)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 76
Highest ranking: 65 (fasozupow)

#306. All the Real Girls (David Gordon Green, 2004)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 76
Highest ranking: 51 (eternity)

#305. Punishment Park (Peter Watkins, 1971)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 75
Highest ranking: 49 (Spinal)

#304. Ghost World (Terry Zwigoff, 2001)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 73
Highest ranking: 59 (eternity)

#303. Being There (Hal Ashby, 1979)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 73
Highest ranking: 58 (Russ)

#302. To Kill a Mockingbird (Robert Mulligan, 1962)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 73
Highest ranking: 41 (Fezzik)

#301. The Limey (Steven Soderbergh, 1999)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 73
Highest ranking: 40 (Philosophe Rouge)

"- Great, now say that everyday you had an apple. An apple, an apple and more apples. You probably thought that apples were pretty good, even if you got a rotten one every once in awhile. Then one day there was an orange. Now you can choose, do you want an apple or do you want an orange? That's democracy.
- I also like bananas."

transmogrifier

03-21-2009, 09:42 AM

#321. In a Year of 13 Moons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1978)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 10.5
Highest ranking: 2 (Brightside)

I'm too lazy to check. Who else had this?

Spinal is correct, Raiders at 19.

soitgoes...

03-21-2009, 10:13 AM

So will there be a point where average ranking outweighs list mentions? Or will the most mentioned film be at #1 regardless of its average ranking?

By the way, great job with this.

transmogrifier

03-21-2009, 11:20 AM

So will there be a point where average ranking outweighs list mentions? Or will the most mentioned film be at #1 regardless of its average ranking?

By the way, great job with this.

Most mentioned film all the way. There is no real justification in using average ranking over number of mentions because (a) we don't know the esteem films are held in outside the top 100, and (b) many people have stated the rankings in a Top 100 can be rather malleable and/or arbitrary. Thus I have used them only to break ties, and treated each list as 100 individual nominations.

Oh, and thanks. Once I get to the Top 100, I'll go to posting the films one at a time I think, just for fun.

transmogrifier

03-21-2009, 11:41 AM

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#300. Out of the Past (Jacques Tourneur, 1947)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 72.7
Highest ranking: 69 (The Mike)

#299. Wonder Boys (Curtis Hanson, 2000)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 70
Highest ranking: 60 (Weeping Guitar)

#298. Pride & Prejudice (Joe Wright, 2005)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 68.7
Highest ranking: 25 (Kurosawa Fan)

#297. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (Mervyn LeRoy, 1932)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 68.3
Highest ranking: 46 (eternity)

#296. Yojimbo (Akira Kurosawa, 1961)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 68
Highest ranking: 52 (Kurosawa Fan)

#295. Big Trouble in Little China (John Carpenter, 1986)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 68
Highest ranking: 39 (Dead & Messed Up)

#294. The Deer Hunter (Michael Cimino, 1978)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 66.3
Highest ranking: 12 (Ezee E)

#293. Onibaba (Kaneto Shindo, 1964)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 66
Highest ranking: 35 (Spinal)

#292. The Matrix (The Wachowski Brothers, 1999)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 65.3
Highest ranking: 40 (EyesWideOpen)

#291. Yi Yi: A One and a Two (Edward Yang, 2000)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 64.7
Highest ranking: 47 (dreamdead)

"I sell gasoline, I make a small profit. With that I buy groceries. The grocer makes a profit. We call it earning a living. You may have heard of it somewhere."

B-side

03-22-2009, 07:46 AM

Yeah, I'll reiterate that you've done excellent work with this. I love the presentation as well.

transmogrifier

03-23-2009, 07:40 AM

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#290. The Shop Around the Corner (Ernst Lubitsch, 1940)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 64.3
Highest ranking: 50 (Sycophant)

#289. Emperor's New Groove (Mark Dindal, 2000)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 70
Highest ranking: 42 (transmogrifier)

#288. Planet of the Apes (Franklin J. Schaffner, 1968)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 64
Highest ranking: 22 (Eyes Wide Open)

#287. Zelig (Woody Allen, 1983)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 63.7
Highest ranking: 9 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#286. Fast Times at Ridgemont High (Amy Heckerling, 1982)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 63.3
Highest ranking: 61 (fasozupow)

#285. The Manchurian Candidate (John Frankenheimer, 1973)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 63.3
Highest ranking: 40 (eternity)

#284. O Lucky Man! (Lindsay Anderson, 1973)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 62.3
Highest ranking: 2 (Boner M)

#283. On the Waterfront (Elia Kazan, 1954)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 60
Highest ranking: 23 (Kurosawa Fan)

#282. Trouble in Paradise (Ernst Lubitsch, 1932)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 59
Highest ranking: 41 (Weeping Guitar)

#281. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (Michael Powell, 1943)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 59
Highest ranking: 32 (Philosophe Rouge)

"Yes, that's the trouble with mothers. First you get to like them, and then they die."

transmogrifier

03-24-2009, 08:33 AM

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#280. The Celebration (Thomas Vinterberg, 1998)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 57.7
Highest ranking: 28 (Kurosawa Fan)

#278. Winchester '73 (Anthony Mann, 1950)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 56.7
Highest ranking: 36 (Dead & Messed Up)

#278. Rebel Without a Cause (Nicholas Ray, 1955)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 56.7
Highest ranking: 36 (The Mike)

#277. Vengeance is Mine (Shohei Imamura, 1979)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 56
Highest ranking: 33 (Boner M)

#276. Toy Story 2 (John Lasseter, 1999)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 56
Highest ranking: 22 (Watashi)

#275. The Piano (Jane Campion, 1993)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 54.7
Highest ranking: 17 (dreamdead)

#274. The Fly (David Cronenberg, 1986)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 54.7
Highest ranking: 11 (Ezee E)

#273. Cleo from 5 to 7 (Agnes Varda, 1961)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 54.5
Highest ranking: 37 (Yxklyx)

#272. Toy Story (John Lasseter, 1995)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 53
Highest ranking: 21 (Watashi)

#271. Ratcatcher (Lynne Ramsay, 1999)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 53
Highest ranking: 18 (dreamdead)

"Here's your list of things to do while I'm gone: batteries need to be changed. Toys at the bottom of the chest need to be rotated. Oh, and make sure everyone attends Mr. Spell's seminar on what to do if you or part of you is swallowed. Okay? Okay, good, okay."

transmogrifier

03-24-2009, 08:56 AM

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#270. The Double Life of Veronique (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1991)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 52.7
Highest ranking: 34 (Philosophe Rouge)

#269. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 52
Highest ranking: 32 (Yxklyx)

#268. Laura (Otto Preminger, 1944)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 51
Highest ranking: 14 (Philosophe Rouge)

#267. Raising Arizona (Joel Coen, 1987)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 49
Highest ranking: 19 (Spinal)

#266. Out of Sight (Steven Soderbergh, 1998)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 48
Highest ranking: 38 (Daniel Davis)

#265. Mon Oncle (Jacques Tati, 1958)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 48
Highest ranking: 31 (The Weeping Guitar)

#264. The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (John Cassavetes, 1976)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 46.7
Highest ranking: 34 (Kurious Jorge)

#263. Catch-22 (Mike Nichols, 1970)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 46.7
Highest ranking: 2 (Philosophe Rouge)

#262. Blow Out (Brian De Palma, 1981)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 46
Highest ranking: 28 (The Mike)

#261. My Night at Maud's (Eric Rohmer, 1969)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 45.3
Highest ranking: 1 (dreamdead)

"I was a fascist when Mussolini was on top. Now that he has been deposed, I am anti-fascist. When the Germans were here, I was fanatically pro-German. Now I'm fanatically pro-American. You'll find no more loyal partisan in all of Italy than myself."

B-side

03-24-2009, 09:42 AM

I don't like how low these Cassavetes films are.

Boner M

03-24-2009, 09:48 AM

I don't like how low these Cassavetes films are.
I think A Woman Under the Influence should place high... but yeah, I feel Cassavetes is somehow underappreciated here (there's quite a few notable posters who haven't seen any of his films).

transmogrifier

03-24-2009, 09:50 AM

I think A Woman Under the Influence should place high... but yeah, I feel Cassavetes is somehow underappreciated here (there's quite a few notable posters who haven't seen any of his films).

*puts hand up*

*assumes he's notable*

transmogrifier

03-24-2009, 09:52 AM

Random tease: one director has two films in the top 10.

Random fact: most represented year is 1999.

soitgoes...

03-24-2009, 09:53 AM

transmogrifier

03-24-2009, 10:12 AM

Taking the average of all the years on the entire list, our average film was released in May, 1975. However, for the Top 10, it is July, 1963.

soitgoes...

03-24-2009, 10:15 AM

Random tease: one director has two films in the top 10.
I would guess either Kubrick or Kurosawa, the old message board standbys.

But don't tell me. I like suspense!!!

transmogrifier

03-24-2009, 10:27 AM

My lips are sealed.

Ezee E

03-24-2009, 10:59 AM

I would guess either Kubrick or Kurosawa, the old message board standbys.

But don't tell me. I like suspense!!!
If it's Kubrick, it'd be 2001 and Strangelove?
Kurosawa would have either Ran, Throne of Blood, or Seven Samurai?

Spielberg is a possibility too.

Or Taxi Driver/Raging Bull from Scorsese...

Yxklyx

03-24-2009, 11:39 AM

If it's Kubrick, it'd be 2001 and Strangelove?
Kurosawa would have either Ran, Throne of Blood, or Seven Samurai?

Spielberg is a possibility too.

Or Taxi Driver/Raging Bull from Scorsese...

Maybe that Italian guy whose name I forget...

Kurosawa Fan

03-24-2009, 01:04 PM

Hitchcock is my guess.

Oh, and I haven't seen a Cassavetes film either.

Ezee E

03-24-2009, 01:53 PM

Hitchcock is my guess.

Oh, and I haven't seen a Cassavetes film either.
Of course.

B-side

03-25-2009, 02:11 AM

This is insanity. You folks need to pop your Cassavetes cherries. Start out with either Shadows or A Woman Under the Influence. Do it because dead people need love, too. Do it because I'd get a bit of an ego boost if I felt I somehow played a role in getting some relative strangers to finally check out a director.

Spinal

03-25-2009, 02:26 AM

I've seen two Cassavetes films and I don't think I'll be watching any more. Sorry.

B-side

03-25-2009, 02:27 AM

I've seen two Cassavetes films and I don't think I'll be watching any more. Sorry.

Aww. What turned you off?

Spinal

03-25-2009, 02:28 AM

Aww. What turned you off?

I don't really care for the performance style.

B-side

03-25-2009, 03:00 AM

I don't really care for the performance style.

Not sure I follow. I've always loved the performances Cassavetes brought out of his actors.

Qrazy

03-25-2009, 03:05 AM

I've seen two Cassavetes films and I don't think I'll be watching any more. Sorry.

Which?

Spinal

03-25-2009, 03:06 AM

Which?

Faces
A Woman Under the Influence

Qrazy

03-25-2009, 03:09 AM

Faces
A Woman Under the Influence

I'm not too hot on A Woman Under the Influence but I do love Faces. I don't think you'd like Opening Night or Husbands. It's possible you'd enjoy Shadows or Killing of a Chinese Bookie.

I've heard great things about Minnie and Moskowitz. I have it but haven't had a chance to see it yet.

Spinal

03-25-2009, 03:14 AM

It's possible you'd enjoy Shadows or Killing of a Chinese Bookie.

Hmmm. Is there something about those films that is stylistically different?

B-side

03-25-2009, 03:17 AM

Hmmm. Is there something about those films that is stylistically different?

Shadows is almost entirely improv, I believe. It's also more sporadic. Killing of a Chinese Bookie is somewhat noir-esque and enhances the sense of subjectivity by occasionally restraining the camera to the eyes of the protagonist, meaning you see what he sees, literally.

Winston*

03-25-2009, 03:21 AM

For some reason Cassavetes films don't get released on region 4. I'm assuming it's because they suck.

Qrazy

03-25-2009, 03:38 AM

Hmmm. Is there something about those films that is stylistically different?

Visually/stylistically they're all similar although Bookie may be his most beautiful color film. I don't know, a lot of people don't think very highly of Cassavetes visual technique but I think there's a great deal to be admired. Anyway in terms of tone/acting it's not drastically different but there's much less hysteria in Bookie and Shadows than in Woman and Faces. Bookie is very interesting to me because it has such a subversive take on crime, strip clubs, and that whole style of life.

Here's an interesting clip from the film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1YDgsh1epc

If you'd prefer here's the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPFKA8olLS0

Spinal

03-25-2009, 03:51 AM

Visually/stylistically they're all similar although Bookie may be his most beautiful color film. I don't know, a lot of people don't think very highly of Cassavetes visual technique but I think there's a great deal to be admired. Anyway in terms of tone/acting it's not drastically different but there's much less hysteria in Bookie and Shadows than in Woman and Faces. Bookie is very interesting to me because it has such a subversive take on crime, strip clubs, and that whole style of life.

Yeah, not a big fan of the way he handles hysteria. Less of that would be welcome. Thanks for the comments.

Qrazy

03-25-2009, 04:10 AM

Yeah, not a big fan of the way he handles hysteria. Less of that would be welcome. Thanks for the comments.

My pleasure, I'd be interested to hear your reactions if you do get a chance to take a look.

Boner M

03-25-2009, 04:12 AM

For some reason Cassavetes films don't get released on region 4. I'm assuming it's because they suck.
Five of them got released on a bare bones version of the Criterion box set (with Shadows, Faces, A Woman..., Bookie and Opening Night + a long doco), and recently each got a single disc edition.

Boner M

03-25-2009, 04:19 AM

B-side

03-25-2009, 04:24 AM

transmogrifier

03-25-2009, 04:38 AM

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#260. Meet Me in St. Louis (Vincente Minnelli, 1944)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 43.7
Highest ranking: 22 (fasozupow)

#259. This is Spinal Tap (Rob Reiner, 1984)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 43.3
Highest ranking: 11 (Spinal)

#258. La Jetee (Chris Marker, 1962)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 43.3
Highest ranking: 7 (Kurious Jorge)

#257. 3-Iron (Kim Ki-Duk, 2003)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 43
Highest ranking: 25 (Sycophant)

#256. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Winds (Hayao Miyasaki, 1984)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 43
Highest ranking: 10 (Daniel Davis)

#255. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Don Siegel, 1956)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 42
Highest ranking: 21 (Antoine)

#254. The 36th Chamber of Shaolin (Lau Kar Leung, 1978)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 41.7
Highest ranking: 9 (Daniel Davis)

#253. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 41.3
Highest ranking: 19 (Philosophe Rouge)

#252. Come and See (Elem Klimov, 1985)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 41
Highest ranking: 36 (Kurious Jorge)

#251. Stardust Memories (Woody Allen, 1980)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 40
Highest ranking: 32 (The Plashy Bubbler)

"Rose Smith, we can't go on like this any longer. I've positively decided we're going to get married at the earliest opportunity and I don't want to hear any arguments. That's final. I love you. Merry Christmas."

The Mike

03-25-2009, 04:42 AM

#259. This is Spinal Tap (Rob Reiner, 1984)
Highest ranking: 11 (Spinal)

Just made the connection. Durrrrr! :|

Qrazy

03-25-2009, 05:04 AM

Also Spinal, I think you might like Opening Night. It's probably his most explicit interrogation of the nature of acting/performance, and thus the hysterics are (possibly) more palatable than his other films. It's really quite surreal and has a strong Inland Empire vibe at times. Also, Michael Haneke put it on his Sight and Sound top 10.

Qrazy's suggestion of Chinese Bookie for the unconverted is a little qrazy IMO.

I just remember there being less hysterics in that one and quite a bit in Opening Night and figured the hysterics were one of his primary frustrations. Opening Night and A Woman Under the Influence are quite similar to me although I prefer Opening Night. I don't know, maybe he would enjoy it.

EyesWideOpen

03-25-2009, 05:12 AM

I'm glad to see 3-Iron and The New World so high.

transmogrifier

03-25-2009, 05:53 AM

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#250. The War Game (Peter Watkins, 1965)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 39.7
Highest ranking: 28 (Spinal)

#249. Cinema Paradiso (Giuseppe Tornatore, 1988)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 39.3
Highest ranking: 9 (Fezzik)

#248. Heavenly Creatures (Peter Jackson, 1994)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 38.3
Highest ranking: 29 (Spinal)

#247. Hannah and Her Sisters (Woody Allen, 1986)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 38.3
Highest ranking: 16 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#246. American Movie (Chris Smith, 1999)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 38
Highest ranking: 29 (Daniel Davis)

#245. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (Steven Spielberg, 1982)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 37.7
Highest ranking: 11 (Weeping Guitar)

#244. Network (Sidney Lumet, 1976)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 36.3
Highest ranking: 5 (eternity)

#243. Sullivan's Travels (Preston Sturges, 1941)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 36
Highest ranking: 18 (Sycophant)

#242. The Wages of Fear (Henri-Georges Clouzot, 1953)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 36
Highest ranking: 9 (Kurosawa Fan)

#241. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Milos Forman, 1975)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 35.7
Highest ranking: 12 (Russ)

"All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases. It's all frightfully romantic."

transmogrifier

03-25-2009, 06:31 AM

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#240. Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 2001)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 34.7
Highest ranking: 16 (Raiders)

#239. Inland Empire (David Lynch, 2006)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 33.7
Highest ranking: 8 (Russ)

#238. To Be or Not to Be (Ernst Lubitsch, 1942)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 33.3
Highest ranking: 8 (Philosophe Rouge)

#237. Braindead (Peter Jackson, 1992)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 32.3
Highest ranking: 5 (Daniel Davis)

#236. The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky, 2006)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 32.3
Highest ranking: 3 (fasozupow)

#235. Singin' in the Rain (Stanley Donen, Gene Kelly, 1952)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 31.3
Highest ranking: 11 (Sycophant)

#234. Battle Royale (Kinji Fukasaku, 2000)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 30.3
Highest ranking: 17 (EyesWideOpen)

#233. Badlands (Terrence Malick, 1973)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 30.3
Highest ranking: 8 (Boner M)

#232. The Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 29.7
Highest ranking: 5 (Kurious Jorge)

#231. Magnolia (Paul Thomas Anderson, 1999)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 29.3
Highest ranking: 3 (Yxklyx)

"-Your mother ate my dog!
- Not all of it."

transmogrifier

03-25-2009, 07:42 AM

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#230. Sansho the Bailiff (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1954)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 28.7
Highest ranking: 3 (Boner M)

#229. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (Frank Capra, 1939)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 27.3
Highest ranking: 13 (eternity)

#228. Requiem for a Dream (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 26
Highest ranking: 4 (Dead & Messed Up)

#227. Los Olvidados (Luis Bunuel, 1950)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 24.7
Highest ranking: 9 (Spinal)

#226. Andrei Rublev (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1966)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 23.7
Highest ranking: 15 (Kurious Jorge)

#225. The Vanishing (George Sluizer, 1988)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 21
Highest ranking: 3 (Spinal)

#224. Make Way for Tomorrow (Leo McCarey, 1937)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 20
Highest ranking: 9 (Russ)

#223. L'avventura (Michaelangelo Antonioni, 1960)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 20
Highest ranking: 5 (jamaul)

#222. The Elephant Man (David Lynch, 1980)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 20
Highest ranking: 4 (Antoine)

#221. Kill Bill (Quentin Tarantino, 2003)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 19.7
Highest ranking: 6 (EyesWideOpen)

"Never. Oh, never. Nothing will die. The stream flows, the wind blows, the cloud fleets, the heart beats. Nothing will die."

B-side

03-25-2009, 09:23 AM

That pic interests me. Lemme guess, it's from Los Olvidados?

Boner M

03-25-2009, 11:52 AM

What do you mean by "the nature of acting/performance"?
That exact quote, or how it relates to the film? I guess I mean that Opening Night takes the representation of hysteria that Spinal takes issue with in the two films he mentions, and places it in a context (the theatre) that challenges its truthfulness and doesn't ask us to accept it as a naturalistic/realistic depiction of human behaviour and interaction. As good as it is, ON isn't one of my faves, possibly for the reason that I find it a little more schematic than his others; it's probably the closest that Cassavetes has come to presenting a thesis of sorts, which isn't really my bag (at least when it comes to his films). By the same token, I think it's that purposefulness that might make it a good re-entry point for Spinal.

transmogrifier

03-26-2009, 04:46 AM

That pic interests me. Lemme guess, it's from Los Olvidados?

I assume so. My trust is with google as I haven't seen the film myself.

B-side

03-26-2009, 05:39 AM

That exact quote, or how it relates to the film? I guess I mean that Opening Night takes the representation of hysteria that Spinal takes issue with in the two films he mentions, and places it in a context (the theatre) that challenges its truthfulness and doesn't ask us to accept it as a naturalistic/realistic depiction of human behaviour and interaction. As good as it is, ON isn't one of my faves, possibly for the reason that I find it a little more schematic than his others; it's probably the closest that Cassavetes has come to presenting a thesis of sorts, which isn't really my bag (at least when it comes to his films). By the same token, I think it's that purposefulness that might make it a good re-entry point for Spinal.

That's an interesting take. I ran a series of thematic theories through my head after seeing it and this actually wasn't one of them, but it fits so perfectly. Very cool. I more or less settled on it as Cassavetes' way of showing how we all perform. How we all seem to have a certain standard placed on us for how to live and how we "need" to be viewed. Of course, Cassavetes stripped away the facade of the theater, and by proxy, our forced images by showing what happens behind the scenes.

transmogrifier

03-26-2009, 05:49 AM

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#220. Husbands and Wives (Woody Allen, 1992)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 19
Highest ranking: 7 (transmogrifier)

#219. Baby Doll (Elia Kazan, 1956)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 14
Highest ranking: 12 (Philosophe Rouge)

#218. Life of Brian (Terry Jones, 1979)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 13.6
Highest ranking: 7 (Spinal)

#217. Jules & Jim (Francois Truffaut, 1962)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 9.3
Highest ranking: 3 (Philosophe Rouge)

#216. The Red Shoes (Michael Powell, 1948)
List mentions: 3
Average ranking: 6.5
Highest ranking: 1 (Philosophe Rouge)

#215. Straw Dogs (Sam Peckinpah, 1971)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 85.3
Highest ranking: 76 (EyesWideOpen)

#214. Our Hospitality (John G. Blystone & Buster Keaton, 1923)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 82.8
Highest ranking: 69 (Boner M)

#213. 12 Monkeys (Terry Gilliam, 1995)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 82.7
Highest ranking: 77 (Fezzik)

#212. Secrets & Lies (Mike Leigh, 1996)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 75.8
Highest ranking: 64 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#211. Eyes Without a Face (Georges Franju, 1959)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 72.3
Highest ranking: 38 (Raiders)

"There shall in that time be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock."

transmogrifier

03-26-2009, 07:12 AM

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2008/03/cusl09a_hitchcock0803.jpg

#210. The Philadelphia Story (George Cukor, 1940)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 70.3
Highest ranking: 21 (Fezzik)

#209. The Heart of the World (Guy Maddin, 2000)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 70
Highest ranking: 32 (soitgoes...)

#208. Beauty and the Beast (Gary Trousdale & Kirk Wise, 1991)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 68.5
Highest ranking: 43 (EyesWideOpen)

#207. Robocop (Paul Verhoeven, 1987)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 68.5
Highest ranking: 36 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#206. The Birds (Alfred Hitchcock, 1963)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 68
Highest ranking: 13 (Philosophe Rouge)

#205. The Wrong Trousers (Nick Park, 1993)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 67.3
Highest ranking: 45 (Dead & Messed Up)

#204. Johnny Guitar (Nicholas Ray, 1954)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 65.7
Highest ranking: 26 (Raiders)

#203. High and Low (Akira Kurosawa, 1963)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 65.5
Highest ranking: 47 (Ezee E)

#202. The Lady Eve (Preston Sturges, 1941)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 65.5
Highest ranking: 26 (Boner M)

#201. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyasaki, 2001)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 64.5
Highest ranking: 57 (fasozupow)

"I'm not interested in self-analysis. I do know my room was so cold in winter and so hot in summer I couldn't sleep. Your house looked like heaven, high up there. That's how I began to hate you."

Bosco B Thug

03-26-2009, 09:23 AM

Aw, The Birds is so pretty. I see a picture and a swoon.

So where would it be if I had made a list and it sat atop it at #1? Just posing the question, no need to answer it.

dreamdead

03-26-2009, 01:53 PM

I should have had Johnny Guitar on my list, too. Massive fail on my part, since I forgot to edit it into my older list before posting it. Kind of sad to see Powell's The Red Shoes so low on the list, but that tragedy is mitigated by the fact that Secrets and Lies placed where it did, though how it can get on the MC Hall of Fame and only appear on 3 lists is rather odd.

Hedren pictures make me happy. That is all.

Raiders

03-26-2009, 02:00 PM

I should have had Johnny Guitar on my list, too.

I don't want to create more work for trans, but since he has already agreed to at some point edit the list, you can add it now and eventually we'll see the effects.

Unless it would be too much for trans. Then, you fail. Hard.

transmogrifier

03-26-2009, 05:07 PM

I don't want to create more work for trans, but since he has already agreed to at some point edit the list, you can add it now and eventually we'll see the effects.

Unless it would be too much for trans. Then, you fail. Hard.

Yeah, if you go into the original thread and either post the new list or describe the modification if it is straight-forward (e.g. "add film Y at #23, all other films down one place, film Z drops off"), I can do one last edit at the end.

transmogrifier

03-26-2009, 05:08 PM

Aw, The Birds is so pretty. I see a picture and a swoon.

So where would it be if I had made a list and it sat atop it at #1? Just posing the question, no need to answer it.

Films with 5 list mentions start at around 140 or so, so I'm guessing it would land in the 110-130 range if you had entered a list,

transmogrifier

03-26-2009, 05:11 PM

Kind of sad to see Powell's The Red Shoes so low on the list, but that tragedy is mitigated by the fact that Secrets and Lies placed where it did, though how it can get on the MC Hall of Fame and only appear on 3 lists is rather odd.

Look at it this way - of all the films ever made, ever, there are only 211 films that did better than Secrets and Lies in terms of list mentions and average ranking.

(PS It was on 4 lists)

transmogrifier

03-28-2009, 02:47 AM

TOP 200!!

http://www.cinemastrikesback.com/news/films/tasteoftea/1280-1.jpg

#200. The Conformist (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1970)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 64.5
Highest ranking: 39 (dreamdead)

#199. Fanny & Alexander (Ingmar Bergman, 1982)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 61
Highest ranking: 24 (megladon8)

#198. Princess Mononoke (Hayao Miyasaki, 1997)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 60.8
Highest ranking: 30 (Watashi)

#197. Audition (Takeshi Miike, 1999)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 59.3
Highest ranking: 36 (fasozupow)

#196. Strangers on a Train (Alfred Hitchcock, 1951)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 59.3
Highest ranking: 20 (The Mike)

#195. The Taste of Tea (Katsuhito Ishii, 2004)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 59.3
Highest ranking: 14 (Sycophant)

#194. Lost Highway (David Lynch, 1997)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 58.8
Highest ranking: 49 (Boner M)

#193. The Haunting (Robert Wise, 1963)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 57.3
Highest ranking: 8 (megladon8)

#192. Modern Times (Charlie Chaplin, 1936)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 55.7
Highest ranking: 44 (Kurious Jorge)

#191. Evil Dead II (Sam Raimi, 1987)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 55.5
Highest ranking: 14 (Dead & Messed Up)

"That's fucking crazy, man."

transmogrifier

03-28-2009, 03:27 AM

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#190. Mouchette (Robert Bresson, 1967)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 55.3
Highest ranking: 41 (Boner M)

#189. Rosemary's Baby (Roman Polanski, 1968)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 55.3
Highest ranking: 17 (Boner M)

#188. City of God (Fernando Meirelles & Katia Lund, 2002)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 55.3
Highest ranking: 8 (Antoine)

#187. The Awful Truth (Leo McCarey, 1937)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 54.8
Highest ranking: 5 (Philosophe Rouge)

#186. Rififi (Jules Dassin, 1955)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 54
Highest ranking: 35 (Kurosawa Fan)

#185. The Maltese Falcon (John Huston, 1941)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 53.5
Highest ranking: 34 (eternity)

#184. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 53.5
Highest ranking: 6 (Watashi)

#183. Shoot the Piano Player (Francois Truffaut, 1960)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 52.5
Highest ranking: 23 (Weeping Guitar)

#182. The Spirit of the Beehive (Victor Erice, 1973)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 52.3
Highest ranking: 18 (Kurious Jorge)

#181. Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood, 1992)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 51
Highest ranking: 27 (transmogrifier)

"We didn't exactly believe your story, Miss O'Shaughnessy. We believed your 200 dollars. I mean, you paid us more than if you had been telling us the truth, and enough more to make it all right."

Mysterious Dude

03-28-2009, 04:02 AM

http://www.cinemastrikesback.com/news/films/tasteoftea/1280-1.jpg

Aaaah!

transmogrifier

03-28-2009, 06:07 AM

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#180. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Robert Zemeckis, 1989)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 50.8
Highest ranking: 16 (Dead & Messed Up)

#179. The Princess Bride (Rob Reiner, 1987)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 49.8
Highest ranking: 14 (Fezzik)

#178. In a Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray, 1950)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 48.5
Highest ranking: 6 (Raiders)

#177. The Incredibles (Brad Bird, 2004)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 48.3
Highest ranking: 14 (Watashi)

#176. Barton Fink (Joel Coen, 1991)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 47.8
Highest ranking: 25 (Ezee E)

#175. Minority Report (Steven Spielberg, 2005)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 47.3
Highest ranking: 13 (Watashi)

#174. Back to the Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 46.5
Highest ranking: 25 (Fezzik)

#173. The Nightmare Before Christmas (Henry Selick & Tim Burton, 1993)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 46.3
Highest ranking: 5 (EyesWideOpen)

#172. Meshes of the Afternoon (Maya Deren, 1943)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 45.5
Highest ranking: 10 (Raiders)

#171. The Battle of Algiers (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1966)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 45
Highest ranking: 2 (Antoine)

"I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me."

transmogrifier

03-28-2009, 06:50 AM

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1124128/MillenniumActress-photo_11_hires.jpg

#170. Unbreakable (M. Night Shyamalan, 2000)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 43.8
Highest ranking: 36 (EyesWideOpen)

#169. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Steven Spielberg, 1977)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 43.5
Highest ranking: 9 (Dead & Messed Up)

#168. Star Wars (George Lucas, 1977)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 43.3
Highest ranking: 6 (Weeping Guitar)

#167. Naked (Mike Leigh, 1993)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 42.8
Highest ranking: 8 (dreamdead)

#166. Millennium Actress (Satoshi Kon, 2001)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 42.5
Highest ranking: 20 (Sycophant)

#165. Ed Wood (Tim Burton, 1994)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 42.5
Highest ranking: 8 (eternity)

#164. The Searchers (John Ford, 1956)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 42
Highest ranking: 32 (jamaul)

#163. Amelie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 41.3
Highest ranking: 14 (Yxklyx)

#162. Halloween (John Carpenter, 1978)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 40.3
Highest ranking: 2 (The Mike)

#161. The Virgin Spring (Ingmar Bergman, 1960)
List mentions: 4
Average ranking: 39.5
Highest ranking: 11 (Kurious Jorge)

"I- I- I watched him for fifteen years, sitting in a room, staring at a wall, not seeing the wall, looking past the wall - looking at this night, inhumanly patient, waiting for some secret, silent alarm to trigger him off. Death has come to your little town, Sheriff. "

Watashi

03-28-2009, 08:43 AM

That image is from Paprika, not Millennium Actress.

Watashi

03-28-2009, 08:44 AM

And I'd be careful hotlinking stuff from "www.michaelspornanimation.com".

Sycophant

03-28-2009, 06:39 PM

And I'd be careful hotlinking stuff from "www.michaelspornanimation.com".

Actually, it's Michael Sporn Animation. And this is a fantastic blog.

As an animation fan, Wats, you should totally check it out.

Qrazy

03-28-2009, 06:43 PM

Actually, it's Michael Sporn Animation. And this is a fantastic blog.

As an animation fan, Wats, you should totally check it out.

Also I could not be remembering correctly but I don't think that Maya Deren pic is from Meshes either. I think it's just a Maya Deren pic.

Spinal

03-28-2009, 07:05 PM

Also I could not be remembering correctly but I don't think that Maya Deren pic is from Meshes either. I think it's just a Maya Deren pic.

Might be from At Land.

Raiders

03-28-2009, 07:43 PM

Might be from At Land.

Indeed it is.

transmogrifier

03-28-2009, 09:33 PM

Damn, two strikes on the photo stakes :) Time to just do the films I've seen, I think.

EDIT: Fixed, I hope. Cheers for the heads up all.

Derek

03-29-2009, 12:55 AM

It's okay. At Land is the better film.

I know Raiders, I know. :)

Raiders

03-29-2009, 03:07 AM

It's okay. At Land is the better film.

I know Raiders, I know. :)

I have flirted with putting that one in my top 100 as well, so it's fine.

But... yeah. No.

transmogrifier

03-29-2009, 09:17 AM

Announcement:

I decided to add in the three remaining lists from the older thread (Israfel the Black, Beau and ios..Sven) before continuing, because it was silly to see them sitting there when they could be added in and have an impact on the Top 100 or so.

I'm going to count down the Top 150 with these lists added. The full list on the first page has been removed (because it's out of date now), and I'll either post it right at the end, or make it available as an excel sheet for those who want to use it for recommendations.

transmogrifier

03-29-2009, 09:30 AM

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#150. Late Spring (Yasujiro Ozu, 1949)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 56
Highest ranking: 33 (Weeping Guitar)

#149. All That Jazz (Bob Fosse, 1979)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 54.8
Highest ranking: 20 (The Plashy Bubbler)

#148. Princess Mononoke (Hayao Miyasaki, 1997)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 53.4
Highest ranking: 30 (Watashi)

#147. His Girl Friday (Howard Hawks, 1940)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 52.6
Highest ranking: 8 (Weeping Guitar)

#146. North by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock, 1959)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 52.2
Highest ranking: 15 (The Mike)

#145. The Conformist (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1970)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 52.2
Highest ranking: 3 (Beau)

#144. Die Hard (John McTiernan, 1988)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 51.4
Highest ranking: 26 (Daniel Davis)

#143. Before Sunset (Richzard Linklater, 2004)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 49.8
Highest ranking: 2 (dreamdead)

#142. Three Colors: Red (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1994)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 49.2
Highest ranking: 24 (Weeping Guitar)

#141. Bonnie and Clyde (Arthur Penn, 1967)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 49
Highest ranking: 6 (Philosophe Rouge)

"I know."

transmogrifier

03-29-2009, 09:42 AM

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#140. A Man Escaped (Robert Bresson, 1956)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 48.6
Highest ranking: 2 (Raiders)

#139. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuaron, 2006)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 48
Highest ranking: 8 (Ezee E)

#138. Rushmore (Wes Anderson, 1998)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 48
Highest ranking: 3 (Weeping Guitar)

#137. King Kong (Merian Cooper, 1933)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 47.4
Highest ranking: 14 (megladon8)

#136. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 47
Highest ranking: 32 (Dead & Messed Up)

#135. Back to the Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 47
Highest ranking: 25 (Fezzik)

#134. The Spirit of the Beehive (Victor Erice, 1973)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 46.8
Highest ranking: 18 (Kurious Jorge)

#133. Rashomon (Akira Kurosawa, 1950)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 45.6
Highest ranking: 34 (Watashi)

#132. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 43.8
Highest ranking: 10 (Ezee E)

#131. The Holy Mountain (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1973)
List mentions: 5
Average ranking: 43.2
Highest ranking: 10 (Spinal)

"I am sorry to say that I have secretly found out that Mr. Blume is having an affair with Miss Cross. My first suspicions came when I saw them Frenching in front of our house. And then I knew for sure when they went skinny dipping in Mr. Blume's swimming pool, giving each other handjobs while you were taking a nap on the front porch."