Scream 4 (Craven, 2011)

[Dukefrukem]

Am i the only one who didn't know this was announced in July?

Well it was and we still don't know much about the film, but Bloody Disgusting knows a little from a "100% reliable source".


While SCREAM 4 is still very much in the early stages of development, we have a few exclusive facts to kick start the hype.

Fact #1: Kevin Williamson (writer of two of the SCREAM films (character credit on third)) is going to start writing a draft, although it may or may not become the shooting script (which is typical).

Fact #2: Wes Craven may or may not direct, but there is a very good possibility that he will return.

Fact #3: They are making financial offers to David Arquette, Courtney Cox Arquette and Neve Campbell to play cameos.

Fact #4: This will be a younger version of the SCREAM movies.

[Mal]

Kevin Williamson can suck my balls.

[Ezee E]

What does that even mean, younger version? A prequel, or redone again but with younger people?

[Dukefrukem]

What does that even mean, younger version? A prequel, or redone again but with younger people?

From what it sounds like, they are remaking Scream and promoting it with it's own title.

[number8]

What does that even mean, younger version? A prequel, or redone again but with younger people?

12 year olds!

[MadMan]

It never stops with horror franchises.

[The Mike]

I'm glad everyone else got to the "younger version" bit before I did.

The baffling never ceases.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Did you guys see that Office episode where Michael Scott learned that Toby was back, and there was this awkward pause, and then Michael Scott just started shouting, "No! NOOOOO! God, no! NO! Nooooo"?

Yeah.

[megladon8]

Why are they remaking a movie that's only 13 years old?

Oh, wait...

[Ezee E]

Why are they remaking a movie that's only 13 years old?

Oh, wait...
Plenty have done it with less than five years, and done it well.

But this... I don't sense any good out of it.

[megladon8]

Plenty have done it with less than five years, and done it well.

Yeah, that was kind of the joke I was communicating with the "oh wait..." part.

:rolleyes:

[Ezee E]

Yeah, that was kind of the joke I was communicating with the "oh wait..." part.

:rolleyes:
I was expecting a more, "Oh wait... They're doing it for money."

Poor joke on your part. So poor.

[EvilShoe]

Why are people assuming this is a remake?
Sounds like a loose continuation to me, similar to that new 90210 show. (But with dead teenagers.)

[Lasse]

Why are people assuming this is a remake?
Sounds like a loose continuation to me, similar to that new 90210 show. (But with dead teenagers.)

Agreed. I can imagine the cameos being lame. "Aren't you Sidney Prescott? I mean, the Sidney Prescott!"

[Ezee E]

Is there more satire then they can get out of it?

Columbine? Celebrity? I don't know. We'll see I guess.

[Ivan Drago]

NO.

[Dukefrukem]

This isn't a third sequel anymore.

Yup, it's a remake.

[Grouchy]

So Wes Craven is esentially going to remake his own movie? Lame. This is all a bunch of bollocks.

[EvilShoe]

Still not sure if this a remake, latest rumours are pointing (again) to it being a loose continuation:



Entertainment Weekly (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/06/scream-to-be-rebooted-as-a-trilogy-courteney-cox-and-david-arquette-in-discussions-to-return-.html) has learned that Courteney Cox Arquette and David Arquette are in talks to star in a new "Scream" trilogy.

The magazine says that writer/director Kevin Williamson has been working on more films that will bring back many of the characters from the original movies. It is expected to start production this fall.

Williamson has approached Courteney Cox Arquette and David Arquette to return. No word on whether Neve Campbell's character, among others, will make the cut.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=56001

[number8]

From what I know, it's somewhat of a reboot. It's called Scream, but it's a new set of characters, brand new story, and will have brief cameos by the originals.

Does it really matter either way?

[EvilShoe]

From what I know, it's somewhat of a reboot. It's called Scream, but it's a new set of characters, brand new story, and will have brief cameos by the originals.

Does it really matter either way?
Does it really matter?

This is the Scream series we're talking about, Ary. I think you know the answer to that question.

[Dukefrukem]

Neve Campbell wont do the movie.

[Dukefrukem]

Neve Campbell wont do the movie.

Now she is doing it. And it's gonna be filmed in 3D.

[number8]

Duke updates movies like a schizophernic patient.

[Dukefrukem]

begins shooting in May

I'd link to the source but it's blocked by my work..

[Dukefrukem]

Wes Craven's directing!

[Lasse]

I'll watch it, mostly for nostalgia reasons I suppose, but I'll be sure to expect very little.

So since the original trilogy commented very much on horror cliches, is it possible that this film is meant af a comment on the recent flood of horror remakes?

No, didn't think so.

[Spun Lepton]

Because suggestions are surfacing that Williamson may have left the project altogether. According to the website Zap2It, the script for Scream 4 is now being handled by Ehren Kruger. Kruger was the writer brought in to pen the third film when Williamson passed on the opportunity. Given that the third movie is the weakest of the existing three, that’s not a massive moment for optimism.

More concerning for Dimension Films was that the idea was Williamson would pen a fresh trilogy of movies, but that’s not looking particularly likely now.

Furthermore, Wes Craven, via Twitter, got in touch with Zap2It to also add that “I have not been given control of the script”. That's not a good sign at all on a film that before the cameras.

Basically, you have the two creative forces behind the best Scream movies - Wes Craven and Kevin Williamson - seemingly not being left to run things as they see fit.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/529291/are_problems_mounting_for_scre am_4.html

There's no stopping the suckage now.

[Dukefrukem]

I thought they already started filming...

[Spun Lepton]

I thought they already started filming...

Script and story changes during production are a common practice.

[MadMan]

Is Neve Campbell still hot? That's all I care about when it comes to this movie.

[Ivan Drago]

Does Neve Campbell even have a career anymore?

[Sycophant]

Does Neve Campbell even have a career anymore?

Word has it she's in the upcoming Scream 4.

[Ivan Drago]

Word has it she's in the upcoming Scream 4.

It's just that I haven't heard of her being in anything after Scream 3.

EDIT: According to IMDB Lindsay Lohan's in this. DONE.

[eternity]

Is Neve Campbell still hot? That's all I care about when it comes to this movie.

Not at all.

[Ezee E]

It's just that I haven't heard of her being in anything after Scream 3.

EDIT: According to IMDB Lindsay Lohan's in this. DONE.
She did some indie movie where she was basically naked for the whole thing. Mike Tyson was in it, and so was Tony Soprano's granduncle.

[MadMan]

Not at all.She isn't? Damnit...

PS: But do I really believe you? To the Internet! :P

[eternity]

She isn't? Damnit...

PS: But do I really believe you? To the Internet! :P
Whatever movie she got naked in...watching that scene was a big mistake on my part.

[Dukefrukem]

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2010913//425.scream.lc.101310.jpg

Campbell not so hot.. Cox very hot... She seems to get hotter as she ages.

[EyesWideOpen]

I feel exactly the opposite. I've never found Cox that attractive or Aniston for that matter.

[Dukefrukem]

Ever see Cox in the Longest Yard?

http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cox.jpg

[Ezee E]

Yeah, Cox is smokin.

[EyesWideOpen]

no thanks

[megladon8]

I've never understood the hooplah surrounding Jennifer Aniston - to me she's totally average - but that Courtney Cox photo is pretty sexy for sure.

And I agree she's gotten better with age. Just the other night I watched the video for "Dancing in the Dark" and she looks much better 20+ years later.

[Grouchy]

To me Cox was always much, much hotter than Aniston.

[Henry Gale]

Poor Lisa Kudrow...

[number8]

So this will forever be known as the movie they got divorced after.

[Dukefrukem]

So this will forever be known as the movie they got divorced after.

Met on Scream 1, Married on scream 2 kids on scream 3 divorced on scream 4.

But in all seriousness, they're only "separated" at the moment.

[Morris Schæffer]

Trailer/teaser

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47103

[Dukefrukem]

meh.... I'll see it.

[Ezee E]

Looks like it's taking the route we all talked about before, but with much worse actors. Anna Paquin is there, but... Meh... We'll see.

[Dukefrukem]

I see Hayden Panettiere too. I'll see it just for her.

[lovejuice]

Poor Lisa Kudrow...
second that. and I thought she was very funny back then.

[Lasse]

I don't know if it's for nostalgia reasons, but I actually sort of want to see this.

And - SCRE4M - will it ever stop with replacing letters with numbers? :lol:

[Rowland]

http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cox.jpgI like this.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I don't know if it's for nostalgia reasons, but I actually sort of want to see this.

And - SCRE4M - will it ever stop with replacing letters with numbers? :lol:

D0N'T F1GHT I7.

[transmogrifier]

Aniston > Cox, and it has always been thus, and will forever be thus

[Henry Gale]

Aniston > Cox, and it has always been thus, and will forever be thus

I would have to agree, but if people have in any way lost interest in the looks of Campbell or even Cox (who to me, has looked a little weird since she had her self-confessed lip work done) and the amount they care about this new Scream movie because of that, just remember, the new one has:

Kristen Bell
Alison Brie
Aimee Teegarden
Marley Shelton
Emma Roberts
Hayden Panettiere
Lucy Hale
Shenae Grimes
Anna Paquin
Brittany Robertson

I'm pretty sure the first three alone are enough for me to see it for completely shallow reasons. The trailer was also better than expected, too. So that helps.

[Lasse]

Full trailer is out (http://filmz.dk/film/scream-4/trailers/37704)

Looks like a bit of a mess, and without the charm of the first one.

[number8]

Self reference overload.

[Dukefrukem]

:(

[MadMan]

I will probably rent this for the hot ladies involved. Cause really there isn't any point in this movie existing, aside for trying to milk a dead series. Especially considering how the 3rd movie ended, really.

[Dukefrukem]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolproduction/ckeditor_assets/pictures/672/original/s4.jpg?1297876653

[MadMan]

Well the new preview kind of proved me wrong. Still a rental, but I at least have some hope that this will be better than Scream 3.

[Boner M]

This movie has one inspired touch.

ACTUAL SPOILERS OF THE ENDING WITHINCasting a Culkin kid and Julia Roberts' niece - and by extension, nepotism itself - as the murderers.

...and it's only inspired cos it probably wasn't intentional. Pretty much the nadir of self-awareness/reflexivity/referentiality; a film that effectively nullifies itself at every moment. Tree of Life can't come any sooner.

[MadMan]

This movie has one inspired touch.

Casting a Culkin kid and Julia Roberts' niece - and by extension, nepotism itself - as the murderers.

...and it's only inspired cos it probably wasn't intentional. Pretty much the nadir of self-awareness/reflexivity/referentiality; a film that effectively nullifies itself at every moment. Tree of Life can't come any sooner.Goddamnit, I read that spoiler. And sadly, I'm not surprised at all about that bit. The minute I looked at Culkin I guessed he was one of the killers.

Regardless, I guess I'm going to see it this weekend. The trailers have convinced me it has some cool moments, and the cast appears to be good, the main group from the first three movies aside.

[Henry Gale]

Yeah, I didn't that spoiler box was going to contain something so big and so specific, but luckily I wasn't looking forward to this too much. Aside from the attractive cast and the potential ways the series could have progressed by utilizing the many ways both technology and the horror genre itself have evolved since the last installment (allowing there to be some freshness to the conventions), overall there wasn't too much else I was really dying to see here.

So I guess I'm kind of surprised that the reviews are currently as good as they are.

[TGM]

Watchin' this shit today. :cool:

[Boner M]

You kids, jaded by constant abuse of the spoiler box... perhaps this could be the subject of Scream 5?

5cream?

[Spaceman Spiff]

You kids, jaded by constant abuse of the spoiler box... perhaps this could be the subject of Scream 5?

5cream?

You deserve neg-rep.

[TGM]

While Scream is a parody of the slasher genre in general, Scream 4 chooses solely to parody just the original Scream movie. It's essentially like watching one of the "Stab" movies that exist within the movie's universe.

Oh, and I hated that "multiple beginnings" sequence...

[eternity]

If it's a straight parody of Scream (aka it's the first Scary Movie), it better go all out. Otherwise, meh.

[Dukefrukem]

While Scream is a parody of the slasher genre in general, Scream 4 chooses solely to parody just the original Scream movie. It's essentially like watching one of the "Stab" movies that exist within the movie's universe.


No no no no no no no nooooooooooooo

[TGM]

If it's a straight parody of Scream (aka it's the first Scary Movie), it better go all out. Otherwise, meh.

It's a strange film, and a hard one to judge. If you look at it as a horror, then it's a complete and utter failure, as there isn't an ounce of tension to be had throughout. However, if you look at it as almost a spoof of the first movie, then it actually somewhat succeeds. It certainly has a campy and oftentimes ridiculous tone to it, in contract to the original's more grounded in reality feel. But while I'm still not sure I actually like it, I do know that I don't completely loathe it like the third movie, so at least it has that going for it.

[Eleven]

Boner nails the most interesting aspect:

And I'm surprised Emma didn't throw an accusatory "Aunt Julia!" into that penultimate tirade against living under the shadow of her more famous family member.

Otherwise, a closed loop of unfunny self-referential nonsense, a franchise choking on its own tail.

[Dead & Messed Up]

This is an actual thing that happened on Facebook just now.


Friend: Got back from Scream 4. Hell of a lot better than Scream 3 and overall better than Scream 2. What a twisted ending!

Me: Ooh. I need to find someone who'll go see this with me.

Some Guy: Yeah, I couldn't believe that ______ was the killer!

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr212/Takorax/fffffffffff.jpg

[Ivan Drago]

I liked it, despite the ending looking hokey at times. Overall though it's a fun time at the movies.

[Dukefrukem]

This is an actual thing that happened on Facebook just now.



http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr212/Takorax/fffffffffff.jpg

Based on the trailers, and this post now, I think I have a good idea who it is.

ANd now i'm mad.

*leaves thread until I see the movie*

[transmogrifier]

I've intentionally spoiled myself for this movie because I've found that in most modern slashers where the killer's identity is concealed till the end, the Scooby Doo moment is almost always a let-down, if only because it mostly seems very arbitrary. So this time, I can go into the movie and actually see how well it operates as a movie and not an elaborate guessing game.

I rewatched the original Scream last night, and it is very, very good. Knowing the killer doesn't diminish the comedy or the inspired set pieces.

[eternity]

I've intentionally spoiled myself for this movie because I've found that in most modern slashers where the killer's identity is concealed till the end, the Scooby Doo moment is almost always a let-down, if only because it mostly seems very arbitrary. So this time, I can go into the movie and actually see how well it operates as a movie and not an elaborate guessing game.

I rewatched the original Scream last night, and it is very, very good. Knowing the killer doesn't diminish the comedy or the inspired set pieces.Scream has one of the best "Scooby Doo moments" in horror films. It's pretty great how surprising yet simultaneously not-surprising it is.

[transmogrifier]

Scream has one of the best "Scooby Doo moments" in horror films. It's pretty great how surprising yet simultaneously not-surprising it is.

Yeah, I didn't mind the first one. But the two sequels were both equally shrug-worthy in the reveal department, and I thought it coloured my attitude to the rest of the film.

[eternity]

The thing I love about Scream 3 is how great the cast is while simultaneously being so damn awful in it.

[TGM]

It's a movie that the more I think about it, the more I tend to like it. I really wanna go back and watch parts 2 and 3 again now to see how they hold up. I already rewatched the first one recently, and it's still awesome.

[Rowland]

Yeah, the original Scream holds up very well, especially as a horror movie, which is especially surprising because Craven is usually pretty slack in that department. The sequels are indeed lame, though the second manages a few tense set peices. I'll probably rent this, though truthfully, I'm more interested in catching up with My Soul to Take.

[MadMan]

The first Scream is in my Top 50 Horrors list (which I finally got around to compiling, btw). The second Scream actually went up quite a bit imo after a second viewing, although its not better than the original. The third Scream is entertaining, but more of a thriller than horror movie-and its merely decent at best. I loved the 4th film, and I think its almost as good as the second movie, actually *ducks objects thrown in his direction.* The opener was hilarious, the kills were properly violent and gory, and the last act was fun to watch in a way similiar to the original's last act, to be exact. That said, the series should probably end with this one-I don't think there's really much left in the tank, and I have no idea how they would even continue it, although when there's money to be made producers always find a way.

Besides, it was worth the price of admission to be see on the big screen the following:

Anthony Anderson, after getting stabbed in the face (I was somewhat surprised at how brutal that kill was), dying words: "Fuck you Bruce Willis." Hilarious.

[number8]

Ever read the original script for Scream 2? The twist is actually a little better. It got leaked onto the net and they had to do extensive rewrites. Shame.

[Ezee E]

Ever read the original script for Scream 2? The twist is actually a little better. It got leaked onto the net and they had to do extensive rewrites. Shame.
Well, what was it?

[number8]

Well, what was it?

There are three killers instead of two.

The killers are actually Sydney's boyfriend (Jerry O'Connell) and her roommate, who are secretly lovers ("we got a Mickey & Mallory thing going") and both got close to her so they can do their crime spree and become famous, like NBK.

It's not an entirely better twist, but at least that way they could give a more meta reasoning that makes more sense. Sidney's boyfriend gives this whole monologue about how they're trapped with "the curse of the sequel" and has to figure out a way to be fresh but not deviate enough from the original that it loses the connection, and I guess that's why he became Sidney's boyfriend. He even mentions how the two killers thing is played out, so they had to go one further.

And then they reveal the third partner, the mom, and same thing happens, she kills them, Liev Schreiber kills her, but in this version Jerry O'Connell was videotaping the entire thing up until he gets killed, so Liev figures he can do whatever he wants and still gets off scott free as evidenced by the tape that he's a victim, so he kills both Courtney Cox and Sidney.

Pretty sure this script is still floating around.

[Ezee E]

I prefer the real ending. Although I forgot about the mom. That part's pretty dumb.

[transmogrifier]

I think Scream 2 would have been better if one of the surviving cast members from the first one turned out to be the killer. Gale especially.

[Rowland]

I've seen the second at least twice, and all I can remember is the opening, the surprise Randy killing, the scene in the police car, and my man-crush on Schreiber. Checking out its imdb page, I somehow completely forgot that Timothy Olyphant was in there. Huh.

[Bosco B Thug]

There are three killers instead of two.

The killers are actually Sydney's boyfriend (Jerry O'Connell) and her roommate, who are secretly lovers ("we got a Mickey & Mallory thing going") and both got close to her so they can do their crime spree and become famous, like NBK.

It's not an entirely better twist, but at least that way they could give a more meta reasoning that makes more sense. Sidney's boyfriend gives this whole monologue about how they're trapped with "the curse of the sequel" and has to figure out a way to be fresh but not deviate enough from the original that it loses the connection, and I guess that's why he became Sidney's boyfriend. He even mentions how the two killers thing is played out, so they had to go one further.

And then they reveal the third partner, the mom, and same thing happens, she kills them, Liev Schreiber kills her, but in this version Jerry O'Connell was videotaping the entire thing up until he gets killed, so Liev figures he can do whatever he wants and still gets off scott free as evidenced by the tape that he's a victim, so he kills both Courtney Cox and Sidney.

Pretty sure this script is still floating around. Yeah, I like this, and think this probably would've been cooler. I don't know about Cotton killing everybody, but the different killers.


I've seen the second at least twice, and all I can remember is the opening, the surprise Randy killing, the scene in the police car, and my man-crush on Schreiber. Checking out its imdb page, I somehow completely forgot that Timothy Olyphant was in there. Huh. I remember thinking Scream 2 had lots of fascinating elements in it, but it must also be pretty forgettable, because I've already forgotten what those fascinating and poignant things are and this viewing was just a week or so ago.

[number8]

Oh! Hahaha, you know what the irony is? O'Connell also goes into this thing about showing Hollywood that in real horror stories, the hero gets killed and there's no happy ending, and Sidney has this lone that's like, "Thats not going to happen! They'll rewrite you!" :D

[MadMan]

After revisiting Scream 2, I also agree that the mom angle (I guess we're just disregarding spoilers here, I guess) was indeed kind of lame, although at the time I first saw it I was a bit surprised. My buddy actually joked while we were watching it that the mom was one of the killers, and it turned out, well, she was, heh. None of this matters anyways, as whatever the planned or executed ending for Scream 2 was going to be, Scream (1996) has the better last act, and ending. Scream 3's ending was rather final, but then I imagine that Craven and everyone thought it was going to be the last movie in the series.

I rather liked the ending to Scream 4, btw. How the media is praising Roberts' character, and says that she's a survivor, followed by the camera cutting to the surprised look on her face a she lies there dead. Obvious media commentary there, but it works.

[lovejuice]

It feels like a stale reunion party. Not that I don't enjoy it. I have a lot of good memory with the original, and am gravely nostalgic while watching this. (The original was from before I went to study in the States. Back then, I had no clue about the US high school and life in a small town. Now I am back for good.)

I second trans. Won't it be cool for once to have the returning cast as the killer?

[Chac Mool]

I liked it a lot.

I mean, it's a "Scream" movie, so entertainment, wit and smarts (or rather, movie smarts) is what I look for -- and it them all in spades.

Also, I'll take the opportunity to re-iterate that Neve Campbell and Courtney Cox still look killer (har har har).

[Ezee E]

I had a blast watching this. Intended as a horror-comedy, it works pretty well, minus some pisspoor acting from a few people. Hayden and Neve are the best here. Neve at keeping the movie in some type of reality, and Hayden for appropriately bridging the line.

Pretty hilarious really.

[Irish]

You'd think by now Sidney would have gone and gotten herself a concealed carry permit.

Pretty lumpy movie. Feels a bit overly familiar, but it's a reboot after all. Weirdest thing is the original cast feels somewhat tangential, and this next generation doesn't have the chops or the charisma to fill the gap.

The bigget mistake this franchise ever made was letting Jaime Kennedy go. His character gave the series a certain energy and comedy. And he was the most relatable character. Without him, or somebody like him, we're just adrift.

Random observations:

The movie is packed with final girls; there aren't any significant male characters. Craven seems to have cast based on cup size and cleavage potential. I wouldn't quite call either of those a criticism, but it did throw me off.

The opening of the movie tries too hard to be clever, and the rest of it doesn't try hard enough. It's all stab stab chase, stab stab chase.

Pet peeve: When charcters we haven't seen in awhile don't change at all. Either internally or externally. Because as we all know, the person you are at 25 is the same person you are at 40.

I'm surprised Craven and Williamson didn't take the oppportunity to kill off the original cast or make one of them the killer. It would have been a nice way to shake things up, instead of including all this web video meta bullshit that was done years and years ago in one of the Halloween sequels.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Kinda liked it. The real killer was pretty dull, but maybe that was the point. Still, disappointing that so little was challenged from the original movies. There's one fake-out with a main character ostensibly dying, but of course that main character can't die, because that would be dangerous and interesting.

The romance between Kirby (Hayden Panetierre) and Charlie (Rory Culkin) was the best stuff in the movie. Maybe it was her Hedren hair that threw me for a loop, but Panetierre seemed like the only genuinely impressive young actress, and Culkin's skewed posture and unkempt hair seemed like a deliberate effort to find a middle ground between Randy and Billy from the first movie.

There's a scene here where everything between them hinges on Kirby knowing a specific horror remake, and she brings real desperation and energy to how she cuts off the killer and just lists every remake from the past decade. Her line reading happens in a single shot, and it's the best damned thing in the movie, one of the only times where the themes and emotion successfully collide.

Come to think of it, the series has a fundamental issue trying to reconcile its flippant irony and depths of cruelty. When the two fuse together well, they mark series high points (as with the opening of Scream and the attack on Randy in Scream 2).

Someone needs to fire Dewey from the force. He's the most inconsequential police officer in the history of film. He has no skill set. He is not valuable. He exists to be too late to murders, and that is all. This was allowable in the first film, but now it's borderline offensive how he never impacts the story.

Anyway, like, maybe a B-, but an affectionate B-.

[MadMan]

Dewy failing as a cop though is a great running joke throughout the entire series. Its sort of enduring.

Hayden Panetierre was indeed really great in this movie, and she looked gorgeous, too, although she's clearly too old now to be playing a high school student. But hey of course the new sequel/remake/mega meta movie had to have a cast full of people who look like they are in college at least since the first movie did the same thing, too.

Also I'm really hoping they end the series with the fourth one, but if it made enough money we'll probably see another entry.

[Dukefrukem]

While watching the movie, I felt like I was enjoying it, because it reminded me a lot of the original, and I really felt a feeling of nostalgia from the time period during the release of the first movie, but when I broke down the ending last night while lying in bed I can’t justify watching it again. The killer reveal was the most disappointing part of the movie and the funny thing is, we were quickly running out of suspects so it should have been obvious.

I feel like Wes shot the movie and realized it was really easy to figure out who the killer was, so he reshot a bunch of scenes to try and trick the audience. One scene in particular feels really out of place is when

Sidney meets Dewy’s deputy while she conceals herself in the shadows. Then she uses a line: “You don’t remember me do you?”.

Bleh