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Derek
07-02-2010, 02:35 AM
Sooo ... five-star review from Armond?

Hasn't reviewed it yet. He was busy this week comparing Grown Ups to Mike Leigh and Jean Renoir and pontificating on how a pan to an old woman in a wet T-shirt contest and a repeated wedgie gag "affectionately examines the fundamental insecurities of middle-age."

MacGuffin
07-02-2010, 02:39 AM
pontificating on how a pan to an old woman in a wet T-shirt contest

Link?

Derek
07-02-2010, 02:41 AM
Link?

Here (http://www.nypress.com/article-21380-renoir-lite-hearted.html).

MacGuffin
07-02-2010, 02:51 AM
Here (http://www.nypress.com/article-21380-renoir-lite-hearted.html).

Are you kidding me? The wet t-shirt contest pan shows more humanity than all of the Apatow movies combined. :cool:


One ploy of Sandler and Fred Wolf's screenplay is to democratize humor—spread affectionate derision all around—by repeating jokes that grow into an appreciation of our full humanity. Note the wet T-shirt ogling that goes from a nubile chick to a middle-aged hausfrau, or the sustained swimsuit-wedgie routine ("That was a man’s ass?").

Watashi
07-02-2010, 02:58 AM
What the fuck, Armond?

Ivan Drago
07-02-2010, 04:02 AM
:facepalm:

Sxottlan
07-02-2010, 09:10 AM
Hardly the cinematic abortion it's being made out to be, but it's still not very good.

I've never seen a single frame of the original series. Don't much care for that "basic" type of animation, even if there is some anime influence. However, the general premise is interesting and therefore it's pretty disappointing that the film turns out the way it did. There's an appealing angle to a plot when it involves a character learning and developing specific powers.

Yet the plot is so clunky with ridiculous exposition interludes instead of developing through the characters. Aang doesn't say much of anything. If anything, I really don't think the film is even told through his point of view most of the time.

The action I did think was well done. I know many hate that fast and slow tracking shot made famous in 300, but I love them and there were a good couple shots in this film.

Kind of hard to take it seriously though when the Fire Nation villain is one of the reporters from The Daily Show.

One of many plot holes? Why do the master water benders need Aang against the Fire Nation fleet? The fleet is only surrounded by water. You'd think they could easily sink the ships.

number8
07-02-2010, 11:33 AM
The most epic review ever:

http://io9.com/5576076/m-night-shyamalan-finally-made-a-comedy?skyline=true&s=i

Yxklyx
07-02-2010, 03:36 PM
The most epic review ever:

http://io9.com/5576076/m-night-shyamalan-finally-made-a-comedy?skyline=true&s=i

Loved this one:

"Later in the film, Katara says my favorite line ever, "We need to show them that we believe in our beliefs as much as they believe in their beliefs." It's as if Shyamalan had a cue card that he was planning to turn into an actual bit of dialog, but he forgot. There's a lot of cue-card writing in this film, and it feels like Shyamalan is leaving things as sign-posty as possible, in order to make fun of the by-the-numbers storytelling in so many Hollywood epics. The master has come to school us all."

number8
07-02-2010, 03:42 PM
I laughed the hardest at the Aasif Mandvhi paragraph, because I can totally picture him in a samurai get-up, one eyebrow up, saying "That's right, Jon. Zuko had the Avatar in his grasp... but let him get away."

number8
07-02-2010, 07:32 PM
Just watched "Sozen's Comet" again.

Goddamn. Fuck you Shyamalan. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK you, you fucking fuckeriest fuck of all fuckingdom, FUCK.

D_Davis
07-02-2010, 07:46 PM
"Hopefully they mean it when they say this is The Last Airbender. It's the last time I ever want to see anyone 'bending' anything"

Sven
07-02-2010, 08:01 PM
Here (http://www.nypress.com/article-21380-renoir-lite-hearted.html).

It's a good review.

Watashi
07-02-2010, 08:26 PM
It's a good review.
You keep telling yourself that.

Thirdmango
07-02-2010, 08:44 PM
As a fan of the show I didn't really like it. It was incredibly blurry. I kept having to try and focus my eyes. Any time there was any sort of movement it never focused on anyone. Even friends of mine who watch bad movies and didn't think it was great.

Dead & Messed Up
07-02-2010, 10:38 PM
Hasn't reviewed it yet. He was busy this week comparing Grown Ups to Mike Leigh and Jean Renoir and pontificating on how a pan to an old woman in a wet T-shirt contest and a repeated wedgie gag "affectionately examines the fundamental insecurities of middle-age."

On the plus side, it'd be amazing for the marketing campaign to quote him.

"Grown-Ups is a laugh riot!" - Pete Hammond

"Grown-Ups is packed to the brim with gags!" - Peter Travers

"Grown-Ups recalls the rich humanism that was Paul Mazursky's specialty during the 1970's!" - Armond White

Spun Lepton
07-02-2010, 11:23 PM
(*slaps Match-Cut's wrist*)

Stop giving that troll hits.

Derek
07-02-2010, 11:30 PM
(*slaps Match-Cut's wrist*)

Stop giving that troll hits.

NY Press isn't exactly some little internet rag. It is interesting that one of the best critics out there (Matt Zoller Seitz) and one of the worst were both simultaneously there.

Spun Lepton
07-03-2010, 12:29 AM
I've always thought the Minneapolis Star Tribune reviewer was crap, and he loved Airbender, so, my theory stands.

Qrazy
07-03-2010, 12:58 AM
NY Press isn't exactly some little internet rag. It is interesting that one of the best critics out there (Matt Zoller Seitz) and one of the worst were both simultaneously there.

Well trolls generate traffic, so it's not exactly surprising.

Pop Trash
07-03-2010, 02:48 AM
This did really good B.O. on Thursday. Guess people will watch anything over the 4th weekend.

MacGuffin
07-03-2010, 03:19 AM
This did really good B.O. on Thursday. Guess people will watch anything over the 4th weekend.

Well, it is directed by M. Night Shyamalan, so it does have name appeal.

Spinal
07-03-2010, 03:46 AM
Well, it is directed by M. Night Shyamalan, so it does have name appeal.

Yeah, somehow people seem to continue to treat each new Shyamalan movie as if it were the follow-up to The Sixth Sense.

[ETM]
07-03-2010, 04:13 AM
Yeah, somehow people seem to continue to treat each new Shyamalan movie as if it were the follow-up to The Sixth Sense.

Don't we all expect him to produce a miraculous comeback to some degree?

Derek
07-03-2010, 04:17 AM
;269930']Don't we all expect him to produce a miraculous comeback to some degree?

Nope.

Skitch
07-03-2010, 06:18 AM
;269930']Don't we all expect him to produce a miraculous comeback to some degree?

I think he has it in him, but not with somethng that wasn't his creation.

number8
07-03-2010, 08:38 AM
I think he has it in him, but not with somethng that wasn't his creation.

Are you kidding? He's a shitty writer. An incredibly shitty writer. His strength had always been directing. The only chance he has of redeeming himself would be directing other people's material. In fact, this was as good as a chance he could've gotten. An excellent premise, a brilliant epic story all mapped out, wonderfully inventive characters and setting already designed, a rabid built-in fanbase to show up opening day... Seriously, Shyamalan was given a sparkling silver platter and he somehow turned it into a rusty fecal matter. Guy's fucking done.

[ETM]
07-03-2010, 11:47 AM
Nope.

I didn't imply hope. I know I didn't expect him to blow it like this.

Skitch
07-03-2010, 12:26 PM
Are you kidding? He's a shitty writer. An incredibly shitty writer. His strength had always been directing. The only chance he has of redeeming himself would be directing other people's material. In fact, this was as good as a chance he could've gotten. An excellent premise, a brilliant epic story all mapped out, wonderfully inventive characters and setting already designed, a rabid built-in fanbase to show up opening day... Seriously, Shyamalan was given a sparkling silver platter and he somehow turned it into a rusty fecal matter. Guy's fucking done.

I wasn't bragging up his writing, or that he was ever mindblowingly brilliant. I think the first half of his filmography was generally entertaining fair, but he seems like the kind of director that needs it to be his own story, that he knows inside and out, to get the performances needed for the material succeed. I also think he's too self absorbed to not take over any story he adopts, trying (and failing) to make it his own, which in turn makes the film fail.

I wasn't saying he was great, but I don't think he's necessarily done, I think he has the potential to succeed at the same level of okay-ness he has before. Besides, everyone in Hollywood has some missteps on their lists, I don't think anyone has a flawless filmography.

I could be totally wrong though, he could be a lost cause. :)

D_Davis
07-03-2010, 07:37 PM
I don't really care what he does anymore. At least I still have Unbreakable and Signs, two films I love dearly.

megladon8
07-04-2010, 12:20 AM
I don't really care what he does anymore. At least I still have Unbreakable and Signs, two films I love dearly.


QFT.

Ivan Drago
07-04-2010, 04:42 AM
Fan reactions after a midnight screening. They're not happy either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5J7inpYSoE

Skitch
07-04-2010, 02:35 PM
Ouch!

:lol:

Pop Trash
07-04-2010, 07:11 PM
Wow, that was a whole lot of angry nerds.

lovejuice
07-06-2010, 04:53 AM
In fact, this was as good as a chance he could've gotten. An excellent premise, a brilliant epic story all mapped out, wonderfully inventive characters and setting already designed, a rabid built-in fanbase to show up opening day... Seriously, Shyamalan was given a sparkling silver platter and he somehow turned it into a rusty fecal matter. Guy's fucking done.

I strongly beg to differ. From day one, I see this project as a stupid idea. Shyamalan is anything but an "epic" director. If anything, his style is minimalist and anti-epic. (What's his approach to filming an alien apocalypse? Focus on a family.)

Morris Schæffer
07-06-2010, 10:54 AM
58 million in five days. Shyamalan gets to direct another movie.

EyesWideOpen
07-06-2010, 01:32 PM
What's all this crazy talk about M. Night not getting to make another movie anyways?

The only movie he's made in the last 10 years that didn't make it's money back was Lady in the Water and that still made 50 million dollars in the US.

Their are far less successful directors that get to keep making films all the time.

Ezee E
07-06-2010, 01:40 PM
What's all this crazy talk about M. Night not getting to make another movie anyways?

The only movie he's made in the last 10 years that didn't make it's money back was Lady in the Water and that still made 50 million dollars in the US.

Their are far less successful directors that get to keep making films all the time.
It's more that we want M. Night to simply stop making movies more than anything, but somehow he still manages to find success despite having awful stuff like The Happening and now The Last Airbender.

EyesWideOpen
07-06-2010, 05:41 PM
It's more that we want M. Night to simply stop making movies more than anything, but somehow he still manages to find success despite having awful stuff like The Happening and now The Last Airbender.

I've liked or loved everything I've seen by him so I sure hope he doesn't. I would consider The Village, The Sixth Sense, and Unbreakable some of my favorite films and I think he's got plenty more greatness left in him.

number8
07-08-2010, 09:04 PM
According to Shyamalan, he has written a draft for Book 2, which he said is "darker."

Someone hold me back, yo.

Skitch
07-08-2010, 10:04 PM
According to Shyamalan, he has written a draft for Book 2, which he said is "darker."

I can deal with your clever insults and unnerving insight into my masturbatory habits, but now you're intentially just trying to make me cry. Quit it.

D_Davis
07-09-2010, 01:42 AM
According to Shyamalan, he has written a draft for Book 2, which he said is "darker."

Someone hold me back, yo.

I can only hope that it is also grittier, and perhaps more edgy.

Spinal
07-09-2010, 03:39 AM
I can only hope that it is also grittier, and perhaps more edgy.

I hope it's a reboot. Can you reboot your own film?

I also hope that it is high-octane.

number8
07-09-2010, 01:28 PM
Personally, I'm hoping that it's a gamechanger.

Qrazy
07-27-2010, 05:09 AM
Shyamalan gives us his perspective. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C76QBg2p78&feature=player_embedded#!)

Rowland
07-27-2010, 05:30 AM
Jaime Christley, curator of the site Unexamined Essentials and an all-around solid blogger, has written an intriguing defense of this film: http://www.unexaminedessentials.com/2010/07/last-airbender-m-night-shyamalan-2010.html

transmogrifier
07-27-2010, 07:25 AM
Jaime Christley, curator of the site Unexamined Essentials and an all-around solid blogger, has written an intriguing defense of this film: http://www.unexaminedessentials.com/2010/07/last-airbender-m-night-shyamalan-2010.html

I remember that guy from RT, and he had a terrible taste in movies, and was Armond-ish in his love of attacking the critical "consensus"

Derek
07-27-2010, 08:06 AM
I remember that guy from RT, and he had a terrible taste in movies, and was Armond-ish in his love of attacking the critical "consensus"

He has great taste in movies and I've probably gotten more great recommendations from his lists than anyone else's. He rarely wastes his time attacking the critical consensus. His consistent Shyamalan love, however, is one of his more baffling idiosyncrasies.

transmogrifier
07-27-2010, 10:34 AM
He has great taste in movies and I've probably gotten more great recommendations from his lists than anyone else's. He rarely wastes his time attacking the critical consensus. His consistent Shyamalan love, however, is one of his more baffling idiosyncrasies.

Maybe he has changed in the last, what, 8 years? But he was an insufferable tool on those boards.

Ezee E
07-27-2010, 01:39 PM
Maybe he has changed in the last, what, 8 years? But he was an insufferable tool on those boards.
Yeah. Never really fun to post with.

number8
07-27-2010, 01:54 PM
Who was he from RT?

number8
07-27-2010, 01:58 PM
Jaime Christley, curator of the site Unexamined Essentials and an all-around solid blogger, has written an intriguing defense of this film: http://www.unexaminedessentials.com/2010/07/last-airbender-m-night-shyamalan-2010.html

I'm confused. Where is the intriguing defense? It was always going to be blockbuster nonsense anyway, so Shyamalan didn't ruin anything, he just facilitated? How is that even a reasonable defense, let alone intriguing?

Rowland
07-27-2010, 05:19 PM
I'm confused. Where is the intriguing defense? It was always going to be blockbuster nonsense anyway, so Shyamalan didn't ruin anything, he just facilitated? How is that even a reasonable defense, let alone intriguing?The usual blockbuster of this sort has little to no discernible auteurist imprint, so his suggestion that the film is not only deeply infused with Shyamalan's cinematic sensibilities, but actually benefits from such, is contrary to the overriding consensus and intriguing in that it kinda makes me want to rent the film out of curiosity when it hits DVD.

number8
07-27-2010, 05:32 PM
The director's DNA fails to make the absurd story (which is only understood by boys and girls around the age of nine) any less intrusive, or motivations any less muddled, but as these bohemoths are simply going to be what they are, a genuine sense of style is all the more welcome.

Reads like very faint praise to me, but all right, I suppose.


The script (written by Shyamalan, from the stories told by the Nickelodeon animated series) is pure drivel, but acted out onscreen, it's got so much heart it'll make your head spin. As a result, Airbender approaches true camp, which, as students of the form will attest, is found, not made.

While this is basically a fancy way of saying "it's so bad, it's good."

Raiders
07-28-2010, 07:18 PM
Jaime's opinions and candor can certainly make him a little standoff-ish, but he's a genuinely interesting source of criticism and opinion. He also somewhat liked Inception, much to his own surprise.

Stay Puft
07-29-2010, 12:18 AM
Yeah, that defense was weak as hell.

Surprise, the script is drivel. Guess what, it's adapted from a show with a strong writing team. This film is nonsense. Shyamalan is a nonsense scriptwriter.

And I thought it was a rather poorly directed film, to be honest. I've enjoyed some of his previous work, even admire elements of his previous films for their craft, but there was little I found worth of note in Shyamalan's direction of this particular film. And the action is seriously bad. One of the apparently amazing long shots is just Aang running in a straight while he slides under or jumps over people, the camera zooming in and out in slow motion, Zack Snyder style. The choreography is unimpressive to the point of being almost non-existant, and the formal execution lacking in imagination.

Now, if I can get back to the script and engage in a little rant:

It's a surprisingly straightforward adaptation of Book One's plot. It sticks to the big events (discovery of Aang, capture and rescue, battle at the Northern Water Temple) and removes everything else. All said, yeah, that's probably as good as you could expect. But!

Shyamalan ruins almost every character. Sokka's unique personality is gone. The Jason Isaacs villain is a non-entity here, completely dull. Iroh's personality is also gone. Appa is... I don't know what the hell that was. The design was terrible, and he was barely in the film anyways.

The worst part is that the film almost completely ignores the heart of the mythology. The bending arts were learned by studying animals, and each element reflects a way of life, a kind of inescapable nature, or perhaps even learned through bending. The show is ambiguous about this, such as that episode with the Firebender who lives in solitude, wrestling with his inner turmoil. I don't think the film even recognizes that Appa is an airbender, for example. He just flies around because it's a fantasy film.

I mean, he seriously misses the point of the show. It's a painfully literal exercise. This is straight up hack work in both design and execution.

KK2.0
07-30-2010, 07:05 PM
Yeah, that defense was weak as hell.

i was unconvinced, sometimes it read like he was trying too hard to find anything positive to say, like that paragraph No8 posted.

those kids at the youtube sound more sincere.

j_christley
08-03-2010, 07:23 PM
It's true, I wasn't much interested in defending it - I'd rather spend time examining how films work, and what's going on in them, than get into the pro-/anti- fray. Raiders mentions I'm standoffish: it's true, I suppose, but I'm tired of criticism-as-battlefield and would just rather talk about movies without making the conversation so darned territorial. Also, I happen to think that whether I like or dislike a film, and why/why not, is the least interesting contribution I can make to a conversation on the film. To those who know me, this won't come across as a new sentiment.

Plus, I'm just getting back into regular reviewing from a long hiatus, and I'm probably a bit rusty. Thanks for any patience you can extend, and may I say I'm much happier with two more recent pieces, on Fritz Lang's M, and Powell & Pressburger's BLACK NARCISSUS, the latter piece being a bit more unorthodox, as far as movie reviews go. (It's essentially a cleaned-up and rewritten transcription of my notes from when I watched it most recently.) Also, watch the space for THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR, they've graciously agreed to run a piece I'm writing on Rivette's DUELLE - if you're looking for films about magic and dreaming, it easily outclasses both AIRBENDER and INCEPTION. (Although I enjoyed both films.) Should be out in a week or so.

Sven
08-03-2010, 07:35 PM
It's true, I wasn't much interested in defending it - I'd rather spend time examining how films work, and what's going on in them, than get into the pro-/anti- fray. Raiders mentions I'm standoffish: it's true, I suppose, but I'm tired of criticism-as-battlefield and would just rather talk about movies without making the conversation so darned territorial. Also, I happen to think that whether I like or dislike a film, and why/why not, is the least interesting contribution I can make to a conversation on the film. To those who know me, this won't come across as a new sentiment.

I think you and this are good.

Raiders
08-03-2010, 09:44 PM
Also, watch the space for THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR, they've gratefully agreed to run a piece I'm writing on Rivette's DUELLE - if you're looking for films about magic and dreaming, it easily outclasses both AIRBENDER and INCEPTION. (Although I enjoyed both films.) Should be out in a week or so.

Saw this added to your fav. films blog in red; hadn't ever even heard of it. Seems the only DVD copy is R2, a dual-disc set along with Noroit.

j_christley
08-04-2010, 12:26 AM
@Sven - thanks and good to know you.

@Raiders - Nice place you have here! Sorry I haven't been by before. And yes, I've been quite lucky seeing two new adds in my top class (which color-coding scheme I stole from my friend, filmmaker Dan Sallitt (http://www.panix.com/~sallitt/bestfilm.html)), this and Renoir's LA NUIT DU CARREFOUR. Both are, coincidentally perhaps, films that you are not required to make sense of, in terms of conventional narrative. But I've rarely seen it matter less.

I wasn't aware of DUELLE until it got mentioned on a_film_by a few years ago, when Rivette came up. I only knew Rivette from being aware of the legendary OUT 1, LA BELLE NOISSEUSE (sp?), and of course he was still making films at the time and I saw VA SAVOIR back in 2001. But several of the guys there (cinephiles in their 40s-60s) came out of the woodwork and sang its praises - especially David Ehrenstein, who has it as one of his top 10. So it's got a rep, but perhaps due to availability issues it hasn't been passed on to younger cinephiles. The print they showed at 92Y Tribeca was mostly very clean, only scratchy around the reel changes. The woman who intro'd the film said the DVD looks great, too, so if it's subtitled and not too expensive, it might be worth the adventure.

Sven
08-04-2010, 06:18 AM
@Sven - thanks and good to know you.

You may remember me from days of yore as "iosos". But I've never really been much to write home about, so I don't blame you if you don't remember.

B-side
08-04-2010, 06:25 AM
Saw this added to your fav. films blog in red; hadn't ever even heard of it. Seems the only DVD copy is R2, a dual-disc set along with Noroit.

I only had it in my sig not more than a week or 2 ago.:frustrated:

I rather enjoyed Duelle, but I loved Nor'west (Noroît). My favorite Rivette thus far. Surpassing the likes of Celine and Julie Go Boating fairly easily.

Bosco B Thug
12-25-2010, 05:56 AM
Watching this, half-heartedly, at the family gathering, and it's not bad. Shyamalan's filmmaking pretensions and idiosyncracies are quite present, and it's visually vibrant. Could be a complete miscalculation, full of idiocies, but this half-watching it thing, it must help because now it's just cool-looking and energetic and seems to have some personality. Kind of feels like a 80s/90s fantasy film.

Am I alone? Did anyone kind of like Shyamalan's effort, even if it is ultimately nay-worthy?

eternity
12-25-2010, 06:00 PM
I thought it was one of the most functionally inept movies with a real budget I've ever seen. I mean, it makes sense since the first time I saw it was three months before it came out and it was almost entirely incomplete. It felt as if there was an okay movie in there, but the final product couldn't have been more problematic. Stretches of dialogue that were clearly not shot on the same day or in the same location; editing spasms; a few instances of bad syncing...this movie seemed to have a week and a half in post-production. Weird, since even crap like The Happening still got the basic aesthetics of a film done correctly.

Bosco B Thug
12-25-2010, 07:19 PM
I thought it was one of the most functionally inept movies with a real budget I've ever seen. I mean, it makes sense since the first time I saw it was three months before it came out and it was almost entirely incomplete. It felt as if there was an okay movie in there, but the final product couldn't have been more problematic. Stretches of dialogue that were clearly not shot on the same day or in the same location; editing spasms; a few instances of bad syncing...this movie seemed to have a week and a half in post-production. Weird, since even crap like The Happening still got the basic aesthetics of a film done correctly.
Interesting. Did you ever watch the final cut? Even if you haven't, you can't be too far off because incompetence is the main spoken or unspoken word in pretty much every review I've read.

I think I'm a sucker for Shyamalan's style, which is often stunning and smart in execution, even though ultimately his films are hopeless. Anyway, I agree with Jaime Christley:


What is surprising - and highly gratifying - is how confidently Shyamalan deploys his unique visual style (longer-than-average takes, most notably during a very long and elaborate battle sequence; foreground-background play; unexpected usage - or refusal to use - rack focus; various uses of frames in architecture and blocking; over-the-shoulder perspective with a stubborn resistance to match it with the reverse shot)

Two bits that stand out in my mind right now is the prolonged, dreamy sight of a Dragon Spirit's departure (kind of like this film's Lady in the Water-Giant Eagle departure), and a stand-off expertly heightened so as to be fully aware its between a malevolent Fire Prince and a lowly, out-of-her-league little girl/water peasant. The way the finishing blow to the defeated party is shown actually packs a punch, probably the most expert one a PG movie could give.

Qrazy
12-25-2010, 09:10 PM
Hrm the 20 minutes I saw were completely visually incompetent with some of the worst vfx in a high budget film I've ever seen.

Sven
12-25-2010, 09:19 PM
Perhaps there are only a few greater Shyamalan defenders than myself, but I thought this was one of the most incomprehensible films I've seen. However, I can see how the half-watching thing could work, because yes, Shyamalan does bring a certain level of aesthetic. But the rhythms are off, the acting is off, the dialogue is off, the effects are off, the story is off... it's a bad film that only a predilection for personal visual style and the self-censorship of it could justify.

eternity
12-26-2010, 01:38 AM
The final cut was worse than the incomplete cut. Much worse. All of the interesting things of that 3 hour mess were cut and all that remained was 90 minutes of craftless crap.

Henry Gale
12-26-2010, 03:18 AM
I saw this months ago but not sure I ever said anything about it. I thought it was just stunningly awful and just about as extremely dull as I could have ever imagined something with the basic material of it to be, the second of which being so much worse to me. And I'm a person who loves everything Shyamalan did from Sixth Sense to Lady In The Water, but between The Happening and this, I have no idea how the same person can go from such (debatable) heights to "oh my god what the fuck is he thinking?"-terrible. He can't even direct kids or seemingly conceive of a smoothly shoot, edited or written scene anymore.

Easily the worst movie of the year. I had Prince of Persia hold that title for a while, but that movie was like a vacation compared to Airbender. Hearing eternity say that the movie's length was basically cut in half in just a few months of production at least lends some sense to how jumbled it all feels. Apparently that early test version was the one that had the guy stabbing the fish, too. They couldn't even leave that be... :sad:

Bosco B Thug
12-26-2010, 07:06 AM
The final cut was worse than the incomplete cut. Much worse. All of the interesting things of that 3 hour mess were cut and all that remained was 90 minutes of craftless crap. So there was an okay movie somewhere in the incomplete cut, but all that remained in the final cut was the craftless crap?


Apparently that early test version was the one that had the guy stabbing the fish, too. They couldn't even leave that be... :sad: I may be misunderstanding you, but he does stab a fish in the released cut...


Perhaps there are only a few greater Shyamalan defenders than myself, but I thought this was one of the most incomprehensible films I've seen. However, I can see how the half-watching thing could work, because yes, Shyamalan does bring a certain level of aesthetic. But the rhythms are off, the acting is off, the dialogue is off, the effects are off, the story is off... it's a bad film that only a predilection for personal visual style and the self-censorship of it could justify. I think the most of it is I thought the film was visually exciting. Maybe if I watched more closely I'd notice how badly put together it is.

I'll be watching this one again, and I'm hoping to still come out positive.

I thought the action was cool and well-done, too. Perhaps that says more about what kind of an action-viewer I am. Whenever Aang was using his wind powers, I was suitably captivated.

Sven
12-26-2010, 07:26 AM
I thought the action was cool and well-done, too.

I will confess that I thought the one-shot quick zooming things that he pulled out a few times was pretty cool. That's, like, it.

Winston*
12-26-2010, 09:32 AM
Have you seen the animated series, Bosco B Thug? It is really good.

Bosco B Thug
12-26-2010, 06:59 PM
Have you seen the animated series, Bosco B Thug? It is really good.
Nope, probably one reason I could tolerate the movie.

Henry Gale
12-26-2010, 07:04 PM
I may be misunderstanding you, but he does stab a fish in the released cut...

Oh sorry, I meant to write "punch". Apparently he punched it originally. I'm no longer sure which feels more ridiculous.

Bosco B Thug
12-26-2010, 07:16 PM
Oh sorry, I meant to write "punch". Apparently he punched it originally. I'm no longer sure which feels more ridiculous.
Hmm, that sounds kinda ugly, seeing a fish punched. In the words of Scott Pilgrim, they're soft and clammy.

Dead & Messed Up
07-18-2011, 04:50 AM
This movie...was not good. I kept hoping for it to transcend inept and achieve camp, but my wish never came true.

What a poorly-made film.

Henry Gale
07-18-2011, 06:28 AM
This movie...was not good. I kept hoping for it to transcend inept and achieve camp, but my wish never came true.

What a poorly-made film.

Haha, just earlier I happened to see your running commentary of its awfulness over on RT. There's so many terrible things in it that I probably either missed when I watched it, or had completely forgot about until you pointed them out.

Bosco B Thug
07-18-2011, 06:48 AM
"Forever alone" meme [here].

Also, DaMU's RT thread link please?

Dead & Messed Up
07-18-2011, 03:05 PM
"Forever alone" meme [here].

Also, DaMU's RT thread link please?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=2270176

D_Davis
07-18-2011, 04:16 PM
I saw that this is now in Netflix streaming, so I think I'll check it out.

number8
07-18-2011, 04:26 PM
I saw that this is now in Netflix streaming, so I think I'll check it out.

You know what's also on Netflix streaming? All three seasons of the cartoon. Check that out instead. I beg of you.

D_Davis
07-18-2011, 04:31 PM
You know what's also on Netflix streaming? All three seasons of the cartoon. Check that out instead. I beg of you.

I've tried - twice. Just not into it. I wish I liked it. Maybe I'll give it another go. By what episode does it start to get good? I've watched through the first 5.

Ivan Drago
07-18-2011, 04:32 PM
The only way I will ever see this is if I've been drinking and don't have to pay to see it. Thank you, Netflix.

Mysterious Dude
07-18-2011, 04:37 PM
I'm morbidly curious myself. I haven't seen a Shyamalan film since The Village.

number8
07-18-2011, 04:40 PM
I've tried - twice. Just not into it. I wish I liked it. Maybe I'll give it another go. By what episode does it start to get good? I've watched through the first 5.

Hmm, try the two-parter episode 7 and 8 then. There's no turning point per se, but it's one of those things that slowly grows on you, and then you can't get enough.

TGM
07-18-2011, 11:17 PM
I've tried - twice. Just not into it. I wish I liked it. Maybe I'll give it another go. By what episode does it start to get good? I've watched through the first 5.

Yeah, the first half of season 1 is a bit episodic, and is as a result a little harder to get into (it's also why the first season was, honestly, the hardest to adapt to a movie. Still doesn't excuse how horrible it was butchered though...).

But around halfway into season one (not sure exactly what episode) is where it really picks up and becomes a truly engaging story. So I'd say just try to tough out the first half, and it'll be well worth it. :)

Dukefrukem
06-16-2012, 08:49 PM
Terrible movie. Terrible. Terrible.

Grouchy
06-24-2012, 11:49 PM
I've tried to watch this twice now, and I just can't bring myself to finish it. It's awe-inspiring how Shyamalan could fuck up a film from this source material.