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number8
05-07-2010, 01:12 PM
Put it this way. This isn't Tim Burton redoing Alice in Wonderland. This is Disney wanting a 3D Alice in Wonderland and hiring Tim Burton to give them one.

Ivan Drago
05-07-2010, 07:20 PM
The more I think about this movie, the less I like it.

Spinal
05-08-2010, 12:39 AM
The more I think about this movie, the less I like it.

Agreed. It's a film where I feel like I didn't just not like it. I feel like I got swindled.

Skitch
05-08-2010, 12:09 PM
This makes me happy, because I downright loathed it, and I can't fathom why this film is getting any love. What a mess of a film.

Bosco B Thug
06-25-2010, 05:29 AM
Damn, you guys weren't kidding. Why am I watching an action movie? Why is it so dull? CGI worlds can suck my hoo-ha. Chesire Cat was good, Depp was pretty good, I liked particular things, but overall I just wanted it to end. The framing device was there to remind me that Burton could make an engaging stretch of movie.

Spinal
06-25-2010, 05:42 AM
It has passed The Dark Knight and is now #5 (http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/).

How much would it have made if it was actually good?

transmogrifier
06-25-2010, 06:04 AM
It has passed The Dark Knight and is now #5 (http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/).

How much would it have made if it was actually good?

I'm stunned it has made that much; not necessarily because I don't like it (I like it more than The Dark Knight, for instance), but because it seemed to have so little hype behind it, unlike all those other films in the Top 6.

Derek
06-25-2010, 06:18 AM
I'm stunned it has made that much; not necessarily because I don't like it (I like it more than The Dark Knight, for instance), but because it seemed to have so little hype behind it, unlike all those other films in the Top 6.

http://www.connect-dots.com/Poofs/chewbacca.jpg

It doesn't make sense.

lovejuice
06-25-2010, 06:28 AM
I'm stunned it has made that much; not necessarily because I don't like it (I like it more than The Dark Knight, for instance), but because it seemed to have so little hype behind it, unlike all those other films in the Top 6.
indeed. it is very...unsubstantial even for an entertainment.

BuffaloWilder
06-25-2010, 07:18 AM
I'm stunned it has made that much; not necessarily because I don't like it (I like it more than The Dark Knight, for instance), but because it seemed to have so little hype behind it, unlike all those other films in the Top 6.

...you liked this?

transmogrifier
06-25-2010, 08:38 AM
...you liked this?

It was alright. I find it hard to see where all the vitriol comes from. I do think I slept a little during it though, but that was because my couch is comfortable and I was tired.

Ezee E
08-07-2010, 05:14 PM
This movie made that much money? Outside of a good first scene with the Mad Hatter, and some good visuals, this was pretty bland. Alice being the most bland of all. The first scene with the Mad Hatter is pretty great though with its use of size, the use of the animals, and such. Too bad there wasn't more of that.

Dukefrukem
08-08-2010, 03:07 AM
This movie made that much money? Outside of a good first scene with the Mad Hatter, and some good visuals, this was pretty bland. Alice being the most bland of all. The first scene with the Mad Hatter is pretty great though with its use of size, the use of the animals, and such. Too bad there wasn't more of that.

100% agree with this.

And it's 5th on the ALL TIME WORLDWIDE list. (thanks Icheckmovies.com). That's crazy to me.


Did you watch this on the same day as me for the first time? Weird Coincidence.

Spinal
08-08-2010, 03:08 AM
I really hate being an anti-populist, but this film's success makes me angry at the common man.

Ezee E
08-08-2010, 03:28 AM
100% agree with this.

And it's 5th on the ALL TIME WORLDWIDE list. (thanks Icheckmovies.com). That's crazy to me.


Did you watch this on the same day as me for the first time? Weird Coincidence.
Yeah, it's been on a wait from Netflix for quite a while........

Sycophant
09-15-2010, 06:30 AM
11 pages of pre-release, 3 pages of post-release discussion. No wonder. There's not much to say. This thing is dreadful. It's absolutely no fun, the performances are scattershot and incomprehensible, the score is depressingly generic, and it's so inert and fucking lazy I can't believe it. The core idea--the theme that got discarded and mutated and glossed over--is not itself bad, but it's absolutely useless in this dull-ass, dreary, cheap fucking yawnathon.

Best I can really say is a small amount of the production design was interesting.

Rowland
09-15-2010, 06:51 AM
I particularly hated how it had to resort to the cliche of the big battle climax, which just reeks of a failure of imagination and complying to the wide audience's lowest standards and basest expectations.

Mysterious Dude
11-21-2010, 03:28 AM
I'm surprised how much I didn't hate this. Maybe my expectations of hatred were a little high due to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Very familiar fantasy story, and not just because it's a classic work of literature: "Even though you're not from this world, you and only you can save us all from that evil dictator (it's in the prophecies)." How often have I heard that before? But for some reason, it worked on me. I was entertained throughout.

Mysterious Dude
11-21-2010, 03:49 PM
I do think it's weird that "frabjous" is no longer the simple adjective for describing a really good day that I thought it was, but in fact is a word for a specific day, like Independence Day.

Dead & Messed Up
12-29-2010, 09:12 PM
Watched it. Didn't like it, and my frustration grows by the moment. Why CGI Crispin Glover's body if he's playing a human being? Why so many washed-out scenes? Why a complete absence of wit and/or whimsy?

Mostly though, I can't handle this problem:

1) Alice runs away from a marriage proposal because she doesn't want to conform to what society wants of her. Everyone expects her to marry a guy. She wants to be free and make her own choices.
2) Alice returns to Wonderland, and everybody in Wonderland tells her she must slay the Jabberwocky. It is her destiny. She has to. There is no alternative. Wonderland expects her to slay the Jabberwocky.
3) Alice slays the Jabberwocky.

Did anybody else notice this? I keep trying to figure out why nobody fixed this. It's just stunning in its hypocrisy.

Dead & Messed Up
07-03-2011, 08:22 AM
NEVER FORGET

hndkao1rdV8

This is my Vietnam.

Derek
07-03-2011, 04:10 PM
This is my Vietnam.

The sixth highest grossing film of all time. SIXTH!

Spinal
07-03-2011, 05:46 PM
The 1970s porn musical adaptation (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074113/) of Alice in Wonderland is better than this version.

Irish
07-04-2011, 02:23 AM
NEVER FORGET
This is my Vietnam.

Holy shit, is that actually in the movie?

Dead & Messed Up
07-04-2011, 02:31 AM
Holy shit, is that actually in the movie?

Yes.

:|

Henry Gale
07-04-2011, 03:59 AM
Yes.

:|

Some may never believe us. *Raises candle*

:sad:

EyesWideOpen
07-04-2011, 04:17 AM
I still don't understand the hate people have for this movie. Mia Wasikowska was fantastic as Alice.

transmogrifier
07-04-2011, 05:39 AM
I still don't understand the hate people have for this movie. Mia Wasikowska was fantastic as Alice.

Especially when you have on the same page the love-in that is the Speed Racer thread. Both films are similarly garishly inconsenquential and inoffensive.

Is it because Speed Racer has a monkey?

DavidSeven
07-04-2011, 09:40 AM
Some of the idiosyncrasies are so painfully wedged into this thing. That dance. The thing Hathaway kept doing with her hands. It really felt like Burton was trying to force a certain essence that probably came more naturally to him earlier in his career.

Skitch
07-05-2011, 12:06 PM
Speed Racer is a lot of fun. Alice in Wonderland is a steaming pile. I hated this movie.

Fezzik
07-06-2011, 02:50 AM
I still don't understand the hate people have for this movie. Mia Wasikowska was fantastic as Alice.

I'll agree on this point, but she deserved a much better movie. Bonham-Carter was simply dreadful, and Depp had a couple of good moments, but was infected with Burtonese.

The effects were underwhelming, the script was cringe-inducing and they wasted Anne Hathaway. Seriously, is that even possible under normal circumstances? (Yes, I'm a Hathaway fanboy. Sue me)

Winston*
07-06-2011, 02:52 AM
Least favourite book adaptation.

number8
07-06-2011, 12:28 PM
The 1970s porn musical adaptation (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074113/) of Alice in Wonderland is better than this version.

Plenty of versions are better. I compiled a list (http://www.justpressplay.net/articles/6444-the-screen-history-of-wonderland.html) of them when this one came out, including this one.

EyesWideOpen
07-24-2012, 01:23 AM
I just rewatched this and I still think it's great. If it wasn't for the dance nonsense I would consider it my favorite version but that one mistep is so bad that it knocks it down enough for me to still slightly prefer the animated one. Mia Wasikowska is a perfect Alice.

Qrazy
07-24-2012, 01:41 AM
The 1970s porn musical adaptation (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074113/) of Alice in Wonderland is better than this version.

Polanski's europorn adaptation is even better.

http://auteursnotebook.s3.amazonaws.c om/multiple%20images/MPOTW/polanski_what_500.jpg

MadMan
07-24-2012, 10:18 AM
I think my rating of a 70 for this was due to the soundtrack, which I liked a lot, the cast (well most of them, I think) and the fact that it didn't give me a reason to hate it. However its a pretty forgettable adaption, and I would have rather seen someone make American McGee's Alice into a movie instead. That would be awesome.