Russell Crowe playing Bill Hicks in biopic

[number8]

*shoots self in the middle of a hanging while my balls are dipped into a blender*

[Sycophant]

*shrugs*

Okay.

[Sven]

...directed by Ridley Scott?

[DavidSeven]

That will be the most unwatchable movie of whatever year it is released.

[MadMan]

Why? And why is this movie being made? Who should play Bill Hicks then? I never saw much of his standup so I donno.

[number8]

Does Crowe even have a sense of humor?

[Winston*]

Who should play Bill Hicks then?
Dennis Leary.

[transmogrifier]

Why does MatchCut hate Crowe now? It's hard to keep up with our vendettas.

[Raiders]

Why does MatchCut hate Crowe now? It's hard to keep up with our vendettas.

Funny. But there is obviously a difference between blanket dislike and thinking he is completely wrong for a given role.

[transmogrifier]

Funny.

My point.

[MadMan]

Dennis Leary.:lol:
That's bound to piss number8 off.....

And I like Russell Crowe as an actor, although he is an asshole. But yeah I really have no clue if he's the right fit for this role. Playing a comedian usually should involve an actor who has some sense of humor. Which is why I guess Jim Carrey was the right choice for Andy Kaufman.

[Sycophant]

I think Russell Crowe is a wonderful human being and wish he was my dad.

So who's going to be making up the supporting cast? Willem Dafoe as Denis Leary? Let's speculate our asses off!

[Milky Joe]

god fucking damn you hollywood. fuck you fuck you fuck you.

[Spinal]

Not a big Crowe fan. Not the worst, but I've never understood all the accolades he gets.

[number8]

Dennis Leary.

http://www.fightingknives.info/Portals/9/oss%20knives/garrote.JPG

[number8]

Not a big Crowe fan. Not the worst, but I've never understood all the accolades he gets.

Same. I don't think he's a terrible actor, but he's so unbelievably boring to watch.

[Milky Joe]

so where did you hear this anyway, 8?

edit: nevermind, google told me all I need to hear.

[number8]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/rusty-relaxes-as-film-takes-leaf-of-absence/2008/08/16/1218307309396.html


"I have another project based on the life of comedian Bill Hicks, which is going from treatment to draft stage with Kiwi writer Mark Staufer."

[Spinal]

Same. I don't think he's a terrible actor, but he's so unbelievably boring to watch.

He is the ultimate Ron Howard actor.

[number8]

He is the ultimate Ron Howard actor.

Ron Howard + Akiva Goldsman + Russell Crowe = The trifecta of dull Oscar panhandling.

[D_Davis]

Not a big Crowe fan. Not the worst, but I've never understood all the accolades he gets.

I feel the same way about Bill Hicks.

I bought 2 of his albums a few years ago, listened to them, and I laughed a couple of times. I don't think he is funny, but I do like some of the stuff he has to say, especially the stuff about mushrooms cleaning off his third eye.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I feel the same way about Bill Hicks.

I bought 2 of his albums a few years ago, listened to them, and I laughed a couple of times. I don't think he is funny, but I do like some of the stuff he has to say, especially the stuff about mushrooms cleaning off his third eye.

:pritch:

Someone else! Man, for the longest time I thought I was the only one! I like Hicks, I think he was a very intelligent guy, but I just don't find him all that funny. Some of his observations are very witty, but they don't translate well to a stand-up routine. I think he's one of the more overrated comics, if only because he's put on this pedestal by practically everyone I know as one of the funniest men to walk this planet. In all honesty he rarely makes me laugh.

[Sven]

I don't normally watch stand-up comedy to laugh. I watch it as a performance and as a monologue and I find his presence warm and his material stellar, in the sense that it is interesting.

[Milky Joe]

Bill Hicks was more of a preacher than he was a comedian, honestly. With dick jokes (and to be fair, they're always extremely creative dick jokes). It's what he stood for and what he railed against so poignantly, brilliantly, and with so much fire that makes him the most important 'comedian' ever. To me, anyway, and quite a few other people. That said, I laugh my ass off listening to him, and not at the dick jokes.

That's what makes the notion of a 'Hollywood biopic' about the guy so depressingly contradictory.

[D_Davis]

I always though I was the only one as well!

I think I would have preferred Hicks if he wasn't a comedian.

I've never really been into edgy humor though. I'd rather listen to stuff like Mitch Hedberg or Dimitri Martin.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I don't normally watch stand-up comedy to laugh. I watch it as a performance and as a monologue and I find his presence warm and his material stellar, in the sense that it is interesting.

Well, you and I differ completely. I watch comedy to laugh. Be it a stand-up routine, TV show, movie, play, etc. I want to laugh. Doesn't mean I won't like it if I don't, but that's my primary motivation. I love to laugh, and if a comedy can elicit that response from me, I'm going to remember it favorably.

[D_Davis]

I don't normally watch stand-up comedy to laugh. I watch it as a performance and as a monologue and I find his presence warm and his material stellar, in the sense that it is interesting.

Huh.

I watch and listen to comedy to laugh.

[Sven]

Well it's not like I don't want to laugh. I just have learned not to expect much from stand-up comedy, as the material that tends to get higher exposure isn't very inspired stuff I've found. This is why I've learned to try and get a sense of what exactly it is they're trying to communicate and appreciate them for their performance rather than just look for lulz. Either way, I'm sure we can all agree that Mencia is a d-bag.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Well it's not like I don't want to laugh. I just have learned not to expect much from stand-up comedy, as the material that tends to get higher exposure isn't very inspired stuff I've found. This is why I've learned to try and get a sense of what exactly it is they're trying to communicate and appreciate them for their performance rather than just look for lulz. Either way, I'm sure we can all agree that Mencia is a d-bag.

Welcome to Rep-land, population: you.

[D_Davis]

Either way, I'm sure we can all agree that Mencia is a d-bag.

Actually, I find him quite funny. He is an inspiration to the art, really. I find that he possesses a singular vision coupled with spot on timing and scathing hilarity.








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[MadMan]

Carlos Mencia is not funny, at all. iosos is 100% correct.

[Spinal]

Calling Mencia a douche bag is an insult to douche bags.

[D_Davis]

Calling Mencia a douche bag is an insult to douche bags.

Man, he's hilarious. I saw this one skit on his awesome show, and he was all, "look at me, eh? I'm a Mexican! It's very bueno! I like tacos"

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I LOLedMAO.

[number8]

I understand what iosos was trying to say, because I'm the same way. I think I've posted this in another thread before. Bill Hicks is my favorite stand-up comedian not because he makes me laugh the hardest, but that his stage presence is incredible. And I don't think you can fully grasp that by listening to his audio tapes. He's a very animated performer, too. Even when he's not being funny, he always has something interesting to say. I tend to gravitate more towards stand-ups with fascinating observations than the ones who can deliver "funny jokes".

I like the story in the "It's Just a Ride" doc where his local reverend told him that he has what it takes to be a preacher, and Hicks' response was, "I am one."

[megladon8]

Wow, I'm really just begging for negative rep lately.

I don't like Bill Hicks much at all.

[Dead & Messed Up]

At least his rage seems believable and earnest, which can't be said for modern comic "angry" that we see with people like Lewis Black and Carlos Mencia.

[D_Davis]

At least his rage seems believable and earnest, which can't be said for modern comic "angry" that we see with people like Lewis Black and Carlos Mencia.

Totally agree here. Hicks definitely had very real, and very important things to say, no doubt. I wouldn't even start to compare him to Lewis Black - I can't stand that guy.

[megladon8]

Lewis Black is great.

His rants on "The Daily Show" were great. Especially the one about "Grand Theft Auto III" and "Britney Spears Dance Beat".

[Watashi]

Lewis Black is terrible.

[MadMan]

I happen to like Lewis Black, but sometimes his shtick really isn't that funny.

[megladon8]

Lewis Black is terrible.


Henry Fool (1998) **


No, this hasn't changed yet :P

[Watashi]

No, this hasn't changed yet :P

Not even Rusty Venture could make the movie go above mediocrity.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I'm quite a fan of Lewis Black. Despite his faux-anger and his lame Comedy Central persona, he's had some really great stand-up routines. My dad is a big fan and has all of his CDs, so I've heard a lot of his material. He definitely brings the lolz when he's not mugging for Comedy Central.

[megladon8]

I'm quite a fan of Lewis Black. Despite his faux-anger and his lame Comedy Central persona, he's had some really great stand-up routines. My dad is a big fan and has all of his CDs, so I've heard a lot of his material. He definitely brings the lolz when he's not mugging for Comedy Central.


Thank you.

His routine about bottled water is pretty funny.

[Duncan]

Anybody know Mike Birbiglia? That guy's hilarious. I like Dmitri Martin too.

Mitch Hedberg and Bill Hicks are my favouritre dead comedians.

[Duncan]

btw, has anyone ever youtubed Andrew Dice Clay? Pretty much the worst stand-up comic ever, but as a social movement the guy is fascinating. He sold out stadiums. People knew his whole routine by heart. How did that happen?

[Sven]

btw, has anyone ever youtubed Andrew Dice Clay? Pretty much the worst stand-up comic ever, but as a social movement the guy is fascinating. He sold out stadiums. People knew his whole routine by heart. How did that happen?

Perfect example of what I was saying before. I find ADC very fascinating, not just in terms of his quizzical popularity, but as an act itself. The Iceman is a construction of pure machismo--it's an act, a performance, and I find Clay's approach to it far more interesting and worthwhile than a guy standing up telling stand-up jokes. I can't take my eyes off him.

[DavidSeven]

Pretty much the worst stand-up comic ever, but as a social movement the guy is fascinating. He sold out stadiums. People knew his whole routine by heart. How did that happen?

Thanks. I've been looking for a caption.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/ap/ac155063-7356-46a2-97ed-2d90f3834e1a.widec.jpg

[Kurosawa Fan]

Hell yeah. Dane Cook is a miserable fucking comic. Seriously, fuck that guy.

[MadMan]

Hell yeah. Dane Cook is a miserable fucking comic. Seriously, fuck that guy.On RT there was a thread about how since Bernie Mac and George Carlin were taken from us, Dan Cook must die. I agreed.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Hell yeah. Dane Cook is a miserable fucking comic. Seriously, fuck that guy.

I kinda like him. I've been criticized for it frequently, but whatever. The way he delivers jokes is usually enough to make me laugh, and when I saw him recently, he had a solid twenty-minute set.

I don't understand the volatile reaction to him, except as a reaction to all the childish praise from fans that consider him Jesus in faux-faded jeans.

[number8]

I can't stand the way Dane Cook says a sentence, let alone an entire routine.

[Grouchy]

Even though I'm late for it, fuck Rusell Crowe and screw Ron Howard through his skull. They don't have enough rock & roll to make this movie.

[megladon8]

Gotta admit, his bit about drugs being natural is great.

[Dead & Messed Up]

"By the way, if you work in marketing, do the world a favor. Kill yourself. It's not a joke. Kill yourself."

:lol:

[Milky Joe]

Gotta admit, his bit about drugs being natural is great.

You mean this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQq9cmMGSQc)

[D_Davis]

You mean this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQq9cmMGSQc)

That is what I was talking about earlier - my favorite of his by far.

[Milky Joe]

That is what I was talking about earlier - my favorite of his by far.

Yeah, the entirety of his Rant in E-Minor is just utterly fantastic. This is what Tom Waits said about it when he put it on his list of his most cherished albums of all time (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2005/mar/20/popandrock1):

"Bill Hicks, blowtorch, excavator, truthsayer and brain specialist, like a reverend waving a gun around. Pay attention to Rant in E Minor, it is a major work, as important as Lenny Bruce's. He will correct your vision. His life was cut short by cancer, though he did leave his tools here. Others will drive on the road he built. Long may his records rant even though he can't."

Like a reverend waving a gun around. Brilliant.

[megladon8]

Yeah I actually really like Bill Hicks.

When I said I disliked him, I had him mixed up with Sam Kinison.

Now that guy, I cannot stand.

[Raiders]

"By the way, if you work in marketing, do the world a favor. Kill yourself. It's not a joke. Kill yourself."

:lol:

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[Grouchy]

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Do you have to kill yourself now?

[megladon8]

I've been watching a lot of Bill Hicks' acts lately, and I while I do find him very funny, I actually Bill Hicks the philosopher > Bill Hicks the comedian.